Yes, for some that have complex trauma especially dysfunctional attachment - it can sometimes be a trauma response. However, long term congruence between you words and actions - would usually make it easy to spot the person who liars from those that have anxious behaviours from complex trauma

In my option the worst part is the person who genuinely believes there lies

This happens to me sometimes. And you can sense that they suspect/assume you’re lying when in fact you’re not. The truth always comes out though

11. Touching/scratching the side of the nose 12. Voice withdrawals 13. Coughing 14. Blinking excessively/unnaturally (e.g. as Bill Clinton said, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman.") 15. Pausing (to make shit up) Of course, one should avoid the fallacy of the converse. Just because people tend to do these things while lying doesn't mean that if someone is doing one of them, they must be lying. One needs to interpret them within context. Also, different people display different symptoms. It's a bit personal. One might scratch the side of their nose while another one might blink excessively and unnaturally. I wonder what such differences actually say about the make up of the individual in question, how their brain is wired, the type of the lie, the subject of the lie, their motivation for the lie, etc.

Is this a lie? 🤔

When someone says "Trust me" they're always lying.

Lie detector test cam be beaten

@@enisten looking down at the floor. I had a boss that was scuff his right foot everyime he lied.

Mark Twain

The Monkees

What about sleep ? Do you lie in your sleep ?

Google it

I think this line is so dumb and wrong. Remembering the truth and speaking it can be just as hard if not harder than lying. For example, trauma can be so devastating on the mind that your psyche create lies to not have to recall what really happened in order to protect you.

People come over and push my pets away, I pay attention to my pets, they know a bad person. And every one of them has been a shallow fraud. Proven itself many times over.

100% man Every single time I’ve been sketched out by someone it’s been legit. Every. Time.

My gut is rumbling, time to feed my face.

I'm an older dude and you are so right. Every time that I can remember the times I did not when my head otherwise - I Lost. Something else about this - When my head and instincts(real ones) agree, I simply know, period. Example - in the fall of 79 I started a one man show business after a major move outa an isolated Pulp and Paper town. Within a few months my head told me there is a bad economy coming - I could see and predicted a 15% interest rate. My gut was intune with this 100%. So I shut it down and returned most products. I went to a Charted Accountant to make sure - No mistakes, When I went to pick up the paper work he asked my why I shut down. I told him I figured interest rates would be at 15% soon. The look on his face was priceless as in - ooook. But I was kinda wrong as interest rates peaked at about or near 23%. This was not the first or last time for me - both ways - a wifey thing🤣

I find the hardest thing is figuring out who is lying at a job. The people above you are privy to information you do not have, and they keep it from you. You can feel that something is not right, but... what is it? Who is it? You guys are all obviously super spies who can spot the liars, but unless they are cheap con artists who tell obvious lies or have that "hyperactive con artist" personality, I cannot tell. These are people who are more smooth and good at not giving away their true intentions. They smile to your face, but behind your back they are telling the people you are complaining about, that you are complaining about them. You think you have an ally that relates to you and sees the same problems you do, but they are in fact serving the very person or people who you have problems dealing with the most.

How do I know the story you're telling isn't a lie? Just kidding, I used to work/be friends with a pathological liar. He was fun to be around because it was always a game to figure out if he was telling the truth or not. It took him about 10 years to get over it but he's a changed person now.

I'm proud of you. Thank you for sharing.

Good job 👏 you are better when your soul is on the right path , honesty is easier to keep up with

I respect the fact that you're admitting it. Not easy to do.

Wow. Didn't think liars could change. My ex gf was a pathological liar. She would lie even when it wasn't a big deal. It would frustrate me so much. For example one day we were over at another girls house. The girl cooked something for me and was doing her laundry. I complimented her food. Anyways my ex started lying. She was like "oh remember when I made this really good fried chicken for you." And "I used to do laundry too. I would carry a huge basket of clothes downs stairs." I said "wait.... You cook? You do laundry?" And the other girl started laughing because she knew she was lying too. In my mind I'm thinking "why did you even need to lie here???" It wasn't even beneficial.

I smile a lot and I keep my eyes pretty open, I think, lol. But I know EXACTLY what you mean. There's a difference between genuine friendly and creepy friendly.

ABSOLUTELY AGREE ITS ALMOST A MANIPULATIVE TACTIC TO GET YOU TO TRUST THEM.

Yes Ive seen it. While saying 'I Wouldn't do this...'

In the process of finally writing off my toxic, broken and downright MEAN spiritied (however veiled) father after 47 years of this very issue. Fucking sucks ass. Retired from flying Combat Rescue in 2020 and found myself in an IMMEDIATE defensive posture, perpetually every day since. As if every conversation is a deposition, and any possible doubt might as well be adjudicated and published precedent/fact. (and I'm not even, nor have been, close to the fella since age 16, and had forgotten how this bullshit false accusation shit is supposed to go...it's been a LONG ass time since I bounced out in 92, neventually ending up at the Fort Benning Home for Wayward Boys...then Kirtland AFB a decade+ later for the'Zipper Suited Sun God' Academy) Maddening shit. Doing nothing and still being guilty of something, even thiugh you are the last to know about what it was that you did, or that everyone else already heard that you did, yet your own ignorance of the issue paints you in a bad light you don't even kniow you are basking in. I realized recently that this old retired policeman was indeed truly proud of a PART of his oldest boy at one point. He was proud of a sage green jumpsuit with mny rank and callsign on it...a symbol of societal acceptance. Once that wasn't my veneer for all to see anymore, every conversation started to sound like these points Jocko is mentioning, And THAT was a fucking TRIP and a half to realize wioth real eyes that I was getting fed real lies. From inside my own personal Cantonement Zone, no less. Like finding a snitch in your Safe House. Brings a new nmeaning to the old advice my attorney always maintains, that you shoud NEVER voluntarily speak about anything to the police. Even the ones that retired in 2005 (while you were on the first of many tours OCONUS yourself.) Leaves a fella punch drunk confused, but not so much so that I'm gonna stand for anyone bearing false witness or libel/defamatory assertions, Blood or no blood. I was, I am, and I will forever be, a proud Rescueman. Integrity is NOT optional. If I say "We're coming to get you" and "We will not leave you behind", I fucking meant it then and I'll mean it tomorrow. Be damned if anyone is going to paint me as someone that espouses a conflicting ethos to that one. ou" oand "We will not leavbe you behind", I fucking meant it then and I'll mean it tomorrow. (apparently your comment stuck a raw nerve on this 'still up-cuz-I-can't-sleep-because-of-it' ... professional stressor that I is.) I pray I've imparted into my 26 year old son the gravity of Integrity. I tried like Hel;l to do so, and I';ll keep at it. In thevery end, it literally CAN actually be ALL that you've got left in the old Wolfpack 'man satchel' while headed off to some V named big hall in Asgard, withoiut your body, booty or bills from the IRS...in search of where y'all left DOug last night, (oh, wait a minute. I AM Doug.)

The studies say that usually the longer the false accusations go on, the more animated the angry the falsely accused becomes. You feel a sort of “righteous indignation.” If someone is rightly accused, it’s usually the opposite.

Yes, just like if you walk out of a drug test your automatic guilty. Your always assumed guilty. DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT IS

@xDiRt_McGiRkx I understand what you're saying. If it's not true then why let it bother you kind of speaking. But what if it's a very negative rumor. For example: YOU'RE A RACIST.

@xDiRt_McGiRkx another example I can take from the Bible. Jesus was accused of casting out demons with the help of the devil. Ppl accused Him and He truly did no wrong and was crucified for it.

Stealership lmao What did he lie about?

If you except the truth at a car dealership, you ain’t bought many cars.

Picked up a '22 TRD OR from one of them stealerships about 6 months ago. Crazy how much BS they are shoveling. Got my payments dropped over 100/mo in about 30min of negotiation and me walking out. Crazy how badly they are trying to rob people.

So you have zero patience with yourself. Practically everyone on this planet has lied then they get mad when people lie to them 🤣 hypocrisy is amongst us all if you feel that way.

@@tem3111 I feel bad for your family and friends

And those of us with Nystagmus, eye contact is difficult for us and uncomfortable for you when we do manage to maintain it.

Youre forgetting that these are mainly changes from how someone usually acts. The same way a polygraph works by comparing your answers to a previously established baseline. None of these are indicators of lying by themselves, however multiple of these things changing from how they usually are is a good indicator of a lie.

I once had a manager that was highly disrespected by the team including me. I often could not look him in the eyes because I disrespected him.

So true people who practice psychoanalysis on others are narcissists their the ones with issues

Or avoiding evil eye

My understanding is the liar will share irrelevant details. The falsely accused will share details of things that logically prove they are not guilty. And that info can contain specific details that prove there is no way they did what they are accused of. Whereas the liar adds a lot of detail to make their story seem more real. Since that is their focus, I believe they lose sight of the point of sharing details in that situation, and go off on detail tangents.

Should have just walked away from that mess and you don’t own her to prove them wrong man. Total waste of time.

@@ddtrahan I learned through research recently that she is indeed a narcissist. I didn’t really know much about what it was before, but after looking into it, she is in every sense a narcissist.

Sadly, lie detectors are not as good as their reputation.

Yes, never tell them what you really want.

🧐 yes!

I like to waiters all the time: "how is everything?" "It's good"

Especially when they bring your order wrong😂

You know you want those chicken tendies but you get the steak so your date thinks you’re sophisticated

FINALLY! Sussy baka Jocka

Fse

Sus means slightly underwater seal fyi

Are you celebrating laziness?🤣

Watch the latest state of the union address prime content for spotting a liar

Have you ever taken one?

You would think. I 've been accused of lying, far beyond normal despite my honesty, all my life. One day, I was facing a felony charge. Here, whenever you are charged with a felony, you get analyzed by a psychiatrist. He told me everything I told is unbelievable, and yet, he felt absolutely assured I was telling the truth.

Polygraphs are not accurate at all, they make no sense whatsoever and have never been proven to be accurate. Good reason they're not seen as evidance or anything close to the sort in the EU.

For some reason, I don't believe you.

I failed a lie test and I was telling the truth completely. Those test are a joke. until it happens to you , you wont believe it. they are so inaccurate is why its not admissible in court. its snake oil tactics!

People always tell on themselves you need only the eyes to see and the ears to hear..

They might be trying to kill you . Materialistic society is very demonic and selfish. People that lie try to kill me.

you, people, read too much. I was recently in a car, having an important conversation. I was the one behind the wheel(on the left, the other person was on the right), so I when I was looking to the right, I was looking in this person's eyes. All I had left was to look to the left to remember or even be creative with what I say

Lol thanks for the laugh dad

@@countchocula5379 the best is yet to crumb 🍞 🥪

Nice one

I'd rather be laughing at these bread lines than standing in one.

Thought the same.

Waiting for cap

​@TheManFromAuntie exactly, also what do we mean as lies? I lie everytime when i am anxious af and don't wanna go out with friends. It's a different thing when someone lies to manipulate you or take advantage.

and if you remaining silent prompts them to add in more details then its almost a guarantee theyre lying

Right I have heard the directional thinking may suggest fabricating or actually remembering memories... but also that this theory is not true.

Adam jones, it has been proven that left handed people use either the opposite, or a mix of eye movements. In right handed people the centres that control everything in the brain are all firmly entrenched in very specific areas. In contrast, left-handed people have a much more diversely set up brain. There are generally a few centers, but their brain acts like much more of a cloud system as opposed to a filing cabinet system.

If they don't need the info you don't have to lie. Just tell them you're not comfortable sharing the info (or similar to suit the situation).

Yup 👍🏻 my father used to accuse me constantly of stuff even if I wasn’t doing anything, then I got in a relationship that had DV.. and now I constantly look like i’m lying bc of the anxiety

Thanks for the heads up

Yea I thought this was common knowledge by now but joco still out here living by 1970s police tactics. All these signs mean someone is nervous. But people could be nervous for a dozen different reasons not just because they are lying.

@@Laocoon283 Yet if theres no obvious reason for someone to be nervous it means theyre likely lying. This sort of stuff is best for people you actually know. You know how they usually act, you hopefully know they arent pathological liars, so if they are exhibiting many of these signs out of the blue you know there is a good chance they are lying and you should investigate further.

I go by gut and hearing what is being said.

@callanc3925 Police are unlikely to know you personally and being nervous for no reason is part and parcel of having an anxiety disorder.

So true peoples judgement accusing people of lying or the you haven't done research line,is just a standover tactic usually used by people who have given up smoking recently they become rude and argumentive.They only start thinking rational and clearly,stop the arrogance when they have healthy diet and mindset.

Narcisists behave similarly. They uncounsciously stop and observe you, and you can see in their eyes they are processing your behaviour. A little trick is to stay silent, like you are letting them talk, and they will feel uneasy and say something revealing.

@Bio Hazard Ah thats very true. Haha funny how there certainly a correlation between the two (nacrissist, and lying). The ones that come to mind definitely fit into both.

I know what you mean. Also the use of the word "absolutely "

@@iPervy Well pathological lying is a hallmark trait of a narcissist, so of course the two go hand in hand. Id argue its more common to find someone with a cluster b personality disorder than it is to find someone who lies pathologically yet doesnt have a cluster b disorder

Be honest with him and tell him you love him and to get help. Don't fight him or be mean to him. Any man who steals already has a broken sense of pride. Do what he would never expect and offer him your love and support. -a sibling who used to steal.

He might not take it well at first, btw. but eventually it will get to him. I promise you.

Indeed. A brilliant book.

That is total bs.

I'm not sure why this is so, but my impression is that it has to do with neural pathways and "unloading" some input (such as recognition of faces and all the things associated with that). It may be that our brains subconsciously use tons of bandwidth on face recognition and all the subtle body language indicators that the face tells us. Looking away clears up our brains to focus on the speech and content of that speech. Such is my theory. 🤷

@@admatai07 Good call. I remember that in basic army training we are taught that when scanning a horizon especially in low light situations it is best to keep our eyes moving and keep focus on our peripheral vision in hopes of recognizing movement or the pattern of a silhouette. It had something to do with losing detail in our blind spots or something to that regard. I have also noticed that when I am attempting to throw something at a specific target like a knife to a target if I focus with great stillness and intent I am more likely to miss than if I am more bouncy and quick in my action. I akin it to how a pitcher in baseball can almost super humanly snatch a line drive out of the air when one wouldn’t imagine being capable of seeing an object moving so fast. I think what’s happening is that by keeping the object of interest in my peripheral I am allowing my subconscious attention to take responsibility for processing the nuances of body language and facial expressions freeing up my conscious attention to more greatly attend to what’s being offered in way of vocal expression and emotional context. All this makes me curious as to how one could potentially utilize this information as to how one receives communication in order to control a response when communicating themselves? Hmmm. Thanks again for your response. I very much appreciate you. 👍

It's definitely a thing! My husband does it and I find it really attractive. And the fact a female finds it attractive probably means that it's a behavior linked to survival. I could definitely see that.

That was anecdotal, but still. Most guys I've seen do that are sigma male. Strong, lone-wolf types. They gather the best information haha.