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Andreas Spiess

Andreas Spiess

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Today we will discover a hidden feature to connect two or more ESP32s or ESP8266s directly to each other: ESP-now. It is much faster and more energy efficient. And we will compare it to LoRa (RFM95 and Arduino Pro Mini.
Espressif gave us this possibility and, because it is so fast, they called it ESPnow. And it also works in the Arduino IDE.
In this video, we will
- Try to understand the difference between the standard ESP mode and ESPnow
- Build a working ESPnow connection for two ESP8266
- Check-out the transmission speed and
- Compare this speed with the speed if we connect the ESP to the internet
- Compare the Energy hunger of both modes
- And finally, compare the ESPs with another technology: LoRa
Links:
Sketches: github.com/SensorsIot/ESP-Now...
ESP-Now example: github.com/HarringayMakerSpac...
Not-rebooting gateway: github.com/HarringayMakerSpac...
Online Battery life calculator: battery-life.of-things.de/batt...
ESP32 board: bit.ly/2sOMR3E
Supporting Material and Blog Page: www.sensorsiot.org
Github: www.github.com/sensorsiot
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 565
@zachreyhelmberger894
@zachreyhelmberger894 3 роки тому
WOW! How come I only heard about ESP Now after all this time?! This is a major breakthrough in battery powered sensing!!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Good question. It is quite old stuff...
@cliffchism9187
@cliffchism9187 2 роки тому
Lol. 😂 i just heard about it this week.
@giannismentz3570
@giannismentz3570 Рік тому
yeah, I too only heard about it recently... then again I'm clueless on electronics, I only recently started looking into them. ESP-NOW seems like a very simple peer to peer protocol, with emphasis on simplicity rather than interoperation everywhere like the TCP. There are good reasons TCP/IP is designed the way it is, but there're also good reasons to use something simple, fast, low-latency and nonstandard on certain applications. First time I hear of Lora as well, I suppose there's applications for this too. I suppose electronics people can easily build a dead simple transmitter/receiver and if they can also code, they can write their own simple protocols if they have specific needs. ESP-NOW seems like a good start for us newbies to play with and make stuff do stuff quickly.
@RajveerSingh-vf7pr
@RajveerSingh-vf7pr 2 місяці тому
@@cliffchism9187 bro... I heard this week
@johnlh100
@johnlh100 6 років тому
Watching your newest video became mandatory part of my sunday morning routine. Many thanks for this - again - useful and interesting episode!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thank you for your feedback and welcome to the "Sunday Morning Club"!
@hvanmegen
@hvanmegen 6 років тому
#metoo :)
@jimb032
@jimb032 6 років тому
It's just not Sunday morning without Andreas and Great Scott! The videos are so well thought out and professional, I very much appreciate the time they put into them.
@RWB123
@RWB123 3 роки тому
I finally ordered a couple Esp32's after years of holding out. Your videos are bringing me up to speed on them and their features and quirks as quick as humanly possible. Thanks for saving me so much time!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are welcome! And enjoy these wonderful chips.
@MrPinolatino
@MrPinolatino 6 років тому
Your contribution for us is invaluable! Thanks!
@bassome3000ify
@bassome3000ify 6 років тому
Augusto Massaro True story Bro!
@waltsteinchen
@waltsteinchen 6 років тому
Double that!!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thanks, guys. You make my Sunday!
@RTOHIO
@RTOHIO 3 роки тому
Using the examples, and following your instructions, I linked two ESP32 Dev boards together and communicated successfully via ESPNOW. You are one of the best teachers on the internet. Glad I subscribed long ago. Now I have to actually send some data packets of my data. Swiss accents are very nice.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you and I am glad it worked for you!
@MaxintRD
@MaxintRD 6 років тому
Very interesting video. I didn't know about ESP-Now. Thanks!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
I also learned just recently about it. And thought, it could be a nice addition
@distancelab2010
@distancelab2010 6 років тому
Thank you once again. Very interesting and gets me thinking of all the possibilities. I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos. Thank you.
@bassome3000ify
@bassome3000ify 6 років тому
Richard Wilson Very true
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thank you! You like to watch the videos and I like to read all these nice comments during the whole Sunday! This is what we call win-win...
@aveenof
@aveenof 6 років тому
Thank you Andreas for your sharing your work to the community! It's exciting to think of the applications that can be made possible through the amazing ESP8266 chip as well as LoRa.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
You are welcome!
@MeriaDuck
@MeriaDuck 6 років тому
The months december and january are designated for home automation and electronics, these were well timed videos. Thanks for pointing us to node-red and to this possibility!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
You are welcome!
@colinpamplin9976
@colinpamplin9976 6 років тому
Very interesting video and the ESP-Now concept (which I hadn't heard of) will be invaluable for my battery driven ESP8266/ESP32 devices.You could say it will transform it! Many thanks to taking the time to make this video and Seasons Greetings from the UK to you and your family
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thank you and also Merry Christmas!
@jeffpollock5243
@jeffpollock5243 6 років тому
Really like your videos Andreas! I am a novice learning and find that they have improved my learning better than any others. Thank you!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Nice to read. Thank you for your feedback!
@aura-comms4633
@aura-comms4633 6 років тому
Thanks again Andreas, you are definitely the best companion for any project
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thank you!
@jon_raymond
@jon_raymond 6 років тому
Another great and informative video! Congrats Andreas on the very soon arrival of 50k subscriber's.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Maybe as a Christmas gift!
@cymeriandesigns
@cymeriandesigns 6 років тому
Andreas, you really are a treasure. Thank you for all the effort you put into each of these videos.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
You are welcome!
@dgb5820
@dgb5820 6 років тому
I’m now asking myself why I have not watched all your videos. I’m grateful that you have taken so much effort into micro controller technology. I will now research about ESP32 now.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Enjoy the ESP32. It has very good features.
@binaryrat
@binaryrat 2 роки тому
​@Andreas Spiess thanks for all your videos & effort
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
My pleasure!
@dmurphydrtc
@dmurphydrtc 6 років тому
Excellent video, as always. Like most I wasn't aware of ESP-Now.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thank you!
@rjmackenzie
@rjmackenzie 6 років тому
This is exactly what I wanted. I'll be implementing this on some marine monitors! Thanks for this vid.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
You are welcome!
@bartgijsbers7373
@bartgijsbers7373 6 років тому
Thank you very much for pointing me in the direction of ESP-now. This is the step I needed to make battery sensors based on esp32/esp8266. I did wrote a esp-now to mqtt gateway on one esp8266 without problems... First init WiFi and then init espnow. I have them both active without any problems. BTW, I like your video's very much. Keep them comming.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thanks for the feedback. Could you probably post your code somewhere for others to be used? Seems interesting.
@peut
@peut 6 років тому
I have tried it. It works for some time, with a round trip time measured on the sensor ( master ) node that is twice as large ( 17 vs. 4 ms). The sensor node does never receive an ack in the send callback function an error (1) is returned. Then, after about 8 messages, the WiFi node does not receive any moremessages. Of course, I may be doing something wrong. See github.com/gitpeut/try-espnow. To get this working I'll go for DualESP.
@jmaguilarr
@jmaguilarr 8 місяців тому
hi , an great video as always ! thx
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 8 місяців тому
You are welcome!
@williammiller7543
@williammiller7543 6 років тому
Great Video! I have been toying with having several sensors around the house but up to now I haven't seen a good way to handle it. I didn't want to get into LoRa, moe unique boards and new things to learn. I also am moving everything over to the ESP32 so this all fits for me. Thanks again.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
You are welcome!
@ICTlinkCentroMultitek
@ICTlinkCentroMultitek 4 роки тому
Congratulations, excellent video.
@olir.8125
@olir.8125 5 років тому
Ein aufwändig gemachtes Video, das einen tollen Überblick gibt ! Vielen Dank dafür ☺️
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому
Gern geschehen!
@peekpt
@peekpt 6 років тому
Wow! Mr. Spiess this is news! That looks really interesting. Thank you for this video, going to investigate more, looks promising!I can imagine the applications like mesh sensors for farmers, for preventing fires and so on...
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thanks for your feedback!
@NotMarkKnopfler
@NotMarkKnopfler 6 років тому
I'm not sold. The advantage of LoRa is it can transmit over very large distances, as famously proven by yourself in your incredible video where you transmit from France! ESP now, being based on WiFi radio will not have anything like the range. These are apples and oranges. It might be good, say, around the house for sensors; but for SCADA and telemetry (where I'm developing LoRa products) this isn't appropriate. It is very interesting though. These little devices are simply incredible! Thanks for the video Andreas. Warmest regards from Aberdeen, Scotland.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
I think, your comment is a summary of my video. My last sentence was: "So, each of the three technologies has its perfect fit, but also areas where I would not use it. Maybe this video helped you a little to do the right decisions in your projects."
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
BTW: You are a great musician, too. I saw Mark Knopfler with Bob Dylan in Zurich. This was one of the best concerts ever. Because of Mark!
@fjgarcia12
@fjgarcia12 6 років тому
It would be interesting to do a test to check the range of the esp in this mode.
@NotMarkKnopfler
@NotMarkKnopfler 6 років тому
Andreas Spiess Ha ha! Thank you!
@joobasics6891
@joobasics6891 6 років тому
Could I have the video link of this LoRa test? thank you
@nburton01
@nburton01 6 років тому
Great video and very useful. Will solve a problem Ia'm having with a solar powered ESP32 project running out of power at this time of year. Was going to rebuild form scratch but using ESP-Now should hopefully solve the problem. Many thanks, keep up the good work.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Maybe it helps at least...
@ArseinLupin
@ArseinLupin 6 років тому
Very nice job Andreas as usual!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thank you!
@elesjuan
@elesjuan 6 років тому
This is most excellent. I'm working on putting together a home automation system using ESP8266's for various sensors and switch supervision. One of the issues I was running into was how to toggle several different lamps on and off. I really don't want to be tied to a smartphone, PC, or some sort of master control panel to toggle the reading lamp in my den on and off. One idea was battery powered "remote" but constant connection to wifi would kill the batteries in no time. With your ESPNow solution, I could setup an 8266 as a master/gateway to wifi and have several battery powered push buttons throughout the house.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
You might also watch my videos (#101 and #108) on the dash buttons.
@jps99
@jps99 Рік тому
Thanks, very well explained!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess Рік тому
You are welcome!
@johnb1677
@johnb1677 6 років тому
Another great video Andreas, thanks!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
You are welcome.
@geoffcoucher3545
@geoffcoucher3545 4 роки тому
Really helpful, thank you.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are welcome!
@johnward7619
@johnward7619 26 днів тому
Thanks for this video, very insightful
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 26 днів тому
Glad you enjoyed it!
@lbsfilm
@lbsfilm 6 років тому
Incredible =D thanks for this really really cool videos
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thanks!
@garrypkeogh
@garrypkeogh 6 років тому
I had heard but forgotten about this, thanks again Andreas! I went directly to Ali Ex to buy memory for my box of ESP01dev boards. This should enable OTA, free some GPIO and make for some super low power 'things' about the house. I see a commercial app too, many thanks again!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
If you do not need lots of pins, the ESP-01 is still interesting...
@chuxxsss
@chuxxsss 6 років тому
Another great vlog Andreas.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thank you!
@Lamsadi
@Lamsadi Рік тому
thank you very much Mr Andreas
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess Рік тому
You are welcome!
@NoProblem76
@NoProblem76 3 роки тому
Interesting! thanks for posting!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are welcome!
@olir.8125
@olir.8125 4 роки тому
Sehr gut gemachtes Video. Ich habe mir direkt einen Außentemperatur Sensor mit dem ESP-07 (mit Antenne) und einer Empfangsstation mit dem ESP12e mit Adafruit Display nachgebaut. Das ganze mit den Programmen von HarringayMakerspace. Funktioniert tadellos. Immer wieder erstaunlich was man mit den ESP8266 Modulen anfangen kann. Weiter so !
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Deswegen haben diese Chips so viele Anhänger...
@ahmadx87
@ahmadx87 6 років тому
It is becoming a habit for me to like your videos and then watch them.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thank you for your support!
@johncongerton7046
@johncongerton7046 6 років тому
Excellent, as always
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thanks!
@uncleal6095
@uncleal6095 6 років тому
Yes, Interesting. I find the RMS function of the oscilloscope useful for measurement of power in complex waveform events.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Good idea. So far, I never used it for such signals. Are you sure it will work with these small spikes?
@bluefishactcl1464
@bluefishactcl1464 2 роки тому
Very good again - lots of interesting information and relevant observation
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
Glad you enjoyed it
@bluefishactcl1464
@bluefishactcl1464 2 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess If you have time I would like to hear ideas about measuring liquid pressure like the bear pressure - simple and reliable - I need to estimate water level in a elevated storage tank and pressure seem to be a simple way but could not find a simple transducer . Any way , thank you for time .
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
They sell pressure sensors on AliExpress. But I do not know if they fit your requirements. I searched with "Water Air Pressure Sensor"
@bluefishactcl1464
@bluefishactcl1464 2 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Using your hint I found one at Amazon that might work . Thank you
@05pamar
@05pamar 3 роки тому
Thanks, great video, very profesional!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad you liked it!
@KJD783
@KJD783 7 місяців тому
Thanks for all great videos! I experimented with the ESP8266 and ESPNow and WiFi and found that the WiFi channel selectivity of these is extremly limited. When signals are strong, the STA will easily connect to an AP on a neighboring channel and ESPNow transmissions sometimes get ack-ed on channels that are even further away. When a unit receives an ESP message that does not mean that the transmitter sent that on the same WiFi channel. That makes it hard to make an automatic channel selection by scanning for response (that and the issue that channel is not easy to control in STA mode). Obviously it gets better with more distance but the crosstalk easily reaches 10 meters or more. It also means that distance performance and your measurements probably get influenced by nearby transmissions. A strong signal from a nearbby transmitter even when on a different channel may have a large impact. What you did is a real life situation so it is a good indication of what can be expected, but it makes it probably not really reproducible, it is more an indication of what is to be expected. I wish RSSI was avaialble for ESPNow receptions and ack, that would help a lot. Now I get responses on multiple channels and have resorted to picking the center one where there is response. I haven't tried with a ESP32.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 7 місяців тому
I was not aware that crosstalk can be demodulated. That is very strange behavior! Thanks for the info
@DrTune
@DrTune 6 років тому
Very very useful thanks, terrific video
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
You are welcome!
@faamp
@faamp 6 років тому
Great video! Thank you.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
You are welcome!
@alexandracrawford800
@alexandracrawford800 5 років тому
Dear Andreas, as always your contribution is valued and highly valuable. In this case however I must comment on the continued usage of historical and outmoded references to "master" and "slave" as originating from a supremacist vocabulary. Recent similar discussions have remarked upon alternative functional terms (dependant upon context) as: "control vs remote vs return" & "origin vs target vs response" with: a common term of "message" referring to the data from the control or originating device & data sent back to the origin or control device being referred to as the "return or response" This not an exclusive list but is a starting point for memorable replacements with CRR & OTR mnemonics for non exclusive examples of "Comfort Requires Relaxation" and "Open Truths Refresh" Good Job Andreas!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому
Fortunately, we Swiss have no such history and our thinking is "clean". So I have no issue using these commonly accepted (in electronics) words.
@alexandracrawford800
@alexandracrawford800 5 років тому
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_trade. I agree your national history and identity stand as exemplary and are iconic representations of neutrality. I do not think you would be drawn into any discussion to logically prove your outlook. However even Switzerland stands upon the shoulders of vast economic inputs from 400 years of lucrative triangular trade by Western European countries including the UK who are trying to avoid responsibility for the fallout from arms trading to the Middle East by exiting the European Union. Our histories are all based upon supremacist exploitation of an isolated peaceful continent and it's populations. Please reconsider your use of historically tainted and conceptually overloaded terms. Although you may say they are in use within an industry characterised by white males, the need to recognise seed concepts as a danger in the naive mind that has not yet grasped the functional concept of balance to establish self organizing neutrality. Such personalities are readily targeted by unbalanced supremacist personalities for their own gain. The symbols of national socialism circa 1930 Germany have been outlawed for similar good reason. Please show respect for the millions of personal tragedies created by the paired concepts of "slave" and "master". Non but ourselves can free our minds, but we can help each other. Thank you, Andreas
@bardenegri21
@bardenegri21 6 років тому
Awesome video! Here's a project idea: many esp8266 devices connected via esp-now to a esp8266 master that has a serial connection to a raspberry pi. All messages from the esp-now nodes go through this serial connection to node red for automation tasks. That would mean you could skip mqtt completely if you only need esp-now nodes. Could be a unique network style.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
This is definitely a better idea than the one I used if you have many sensors. I found a plan to add another ESP for MQTT. But your proposal is simpler. And if you use a Pi zero, also not too expensive.
@bardenegri21
@bardenegri21 6 років тому
I was thinking, there's one disadvantage with ESP-Now: you're relying on an ESP module to do all the receiving of signals. They usually have PCB antennas, except for the ESP-07, so range will probably not be as good as with a router. And with routers you can also have multiple routers serving the same WiFi network for really big spaces. Could be problematic when trying to cover a big house or yard with sensors. Would be nice if there was an ESP8266 or ESP32 based board that is focused on getting the best range, with a properly tuned external antenna and everything. Or if there was a way to have traditional hardware listen for ESP-Now messages (it should be doable, but I doubt there is software for it).
@joezybernatic7435
@joezybernatic7435 6 років тому
very useful and great content.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thank you!
@wjhoogervorst
@wjhoogervorst 6 років тому
Thanks for again a great and inspiring video. As I read in the previous comments, it would be great to see an example were an ESP sends data to an ESP with a serial connection to a raspberry running node red.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Maybe I will do something like that, but I am not sure. Maybe somebody else will do it?
@wjhoogervorst
@wjhoogervorst 5 років тому
@@AndreasSpiess I did it myself, see www.instructables.com/id/ESP-NOW-Home-Automation-Esp8266-Raspberry-Pi-MQTT
@debuggerau
@debuggerau 4 роки тому
Thanks for sharing
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are welcome!
@gavinknight8560
@gavinknight8560 4 роки тому
Fantastic video
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you!
@hollensted
@hollensted 5 років тому
Crazy! I just calculated a 3 year lifetime when running on a 2600mAh 18650, sending data every hour. Work just got really fun.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому
:-)
@axelmagnusmansson3265
@axelmagnusmansson3265 6 років тому
As always a great topic, that i didnt even know existed. All the news here on this channel! i think the big fight for this wonderful chip is now battery consumption ( a part from security, because my test show that more often than not, ESP32 crashes and locks at least once in a week, as weel as QoS). One sample per hour is not really my standard. Maybe a video putting all of our choices and the pros/cons comparison. BLE, LoRa, ESP now, Wifi (and other we dont yet know about?). Battery consumption (incl wake from sleep), range, bit rate, and QoS. Great work as always Andreas!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
A lot of wishes... Maybe one day they become true ;-)
@axelmagnusmansson3265
@axelmagnusmansson3265 6 років тому
yes and a lot of work, i know. but you have made most of the tests now. i was thinking the Big Recap of those. so maybe less work. anyway, whatever you do, i will follow! thx
@michaelbyron2321
@michaelbyron2321 6 років тому
Andreass, you are my hero. I look forward to each of your episodes. Your style is flawless. Can you do some more on the" ESP Now" but with detailed range testing. This is of great interest to me. Will the range be the same for both the ESP8266 and teh ESP32?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
I plan a video concerning ranges in the near future.
@zaceshadowz6158
@zaceshadowz6158 4 роки тому
Jus Came To watch detail about esp-now but now im enlightened...
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
:-)
@zaceshadowz6158
@zaceshadowz6158 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Didn't thought it would be freaking detailed thank you very much for the hard work...
@MrJanulis
@MrJanulis 6 років тому
Thanks, very informative! By the way, in case of "standard" ESP mode calculation you used 90mA, but in ESP Now - only 80mA. Was it intentional or just a mistyping?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
I added a little for the many small spikes. For sure not accurate, but I am an engineer, not an accountant ;-)
@muhammadadeel1947
@muhammadadeel1947 4 роки тому
very much informative......
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Glad you think so!
@kieranj67
@kieranj67 6 років тому
Thank you!!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
You are welcome!
@PHILG2864
@PHILG2864 5 років тому
Hi Andreas, very informative video, thank you Whilst there are plenty of examples of its use, I've spent a lot of time trying to find the ESP8266 library itself, it seems Github has many variations and function constructs and defines are different between different versions, with different people adding various arduino library wrappers. I've done quite a few 'Alexa' projects so I'm happy working with the esp8266 via WiFi, I use only the tiny ESP-01 boards, using the ESP extensions in the Arduino IDE and programmed via async serial. All work well. But I've been unable to compile anything at all for espnow! As yet I've not found anyone successfully using espnow on the ESP-01. If I could just get the simplest espnow example to compile I would be happy! Keep up the good work, the Lora videos were particularly helpful. Cheers :-) Phil
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому
Maybe the flash memory is too small?
@zoltanbauer2722
@zoltanbauer2722 6 років тому
I f-ing love your videos
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thank you!
@tejasarlimatti8420
@tejasarlimatti8420 6 років тому
Thanks so much for another one of your wonderful videos! Btw, the SF7 most *definitely* must have higher range than the ESP8266's WiFi, right? I mean, WiFi can only go so far. Maybe 50, 100mts? SF7 I'm sure can go for kilometres, isn't that right?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
+Tejas Arlimatti You are most probably right. But I will try it in another video.
@lordhelmchen100
@lordhelmchen100 6 років тому
3:29 you meant http right? Also gr8 video btw. This was exactly what i needed for my current project :-)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
I meant HTML but forgot HTTP.
@dan2thi
@dan2thi 4 роки тому
Awesome!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thanks!
@JOSUACC211098
@JOSUACC211098 4 роки тому
man, you're a godsend
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
:-)
@brycedavey1252
@brycedavey1252 6 років тому
I would like to see a follow up video on rage :) Great video
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
I hope I will find the time in the next future...
@mikebpetersen3027
@mikebpetersen3027 4 роки тому
Love your video's - spot on! Quick Question on video #172: Can ESP-Now still communicate in "Station+AP" mode? Or is it one or the other.
@Ed19601
@Ed19601 4 роки тому
I understand it can be both.
@adminspnetworkingirflabs8180
@adminspnetworkingirflabs8180 2 роки тому
Good one
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
Thank you!
@dmurphydrtc
@dmurphydrtc 5 років тому
Just a quick note as I have not seen much written on the ESP-Now topic. I have tested distance/range of 2 different types of ESP32 boards, DOIT Devkit V1 and a TTGO T7_V1.0. I used the scripts by "Harringay..." as listed above. No matter what combination of boards the greatest distance I could get between master and slave was approx.15m. My wifi distances were similar. Anyone else carry out measurements with different boards ? Ta.
@sergheigarau514
@sergheigarau514 5 років тому
hello Andreas, many compliments, your videos are always very interesting !!! I wanted to use this ESPNOW technology for an outdoor application. But when I tested the sketches, I noticed that ESP32 heat a lot and this seems to me a big problem especially for the reason that some nodes would go in the box exposed to the sun and I can not install a fan ... I think that LoRa does not have this problem, what do you think?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому
LoRa transmitters use less power and heat up less. But the sun might be your real problem.
@cavalier3920
@cavalier3920 4 роки тому
Andreas, thank you for leading me to Anthony Elder's code resulting in a 220 mS communication period and power savings. After your video was published he has offered an even lower-power alternative in espnow-sensor-minimal.ino that describes a 40 mS period. This uses a sleep function called "ESP.deepSleepInstant". After verifying that the receiver/sender pair worked with ESP.deepsleep() I had some trouble using deepSleepInstant. It seemed to be too fast in closing down - perhaps shutting down the radio before it was done. Later I found that my last Serial.print functions were missing. Inserting a delay(10) right before deepSleepInstant seemed to fix it. BUT THE BIG NEWS is that the measured time between "send" and the end of the callback function is averaging 100 mS. Not as fast as the advertised 40 mS, but still a big savings for the battery! Very un-powerful! Hope this helps your viewers.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thanks for the info. Serial print takes some time. And if you place a sleep command after such a statement the info is no more sent out.
@cavalier3920
@cavalier3920 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Yes, Serial.print takes time. And the same is true for other communication logic, I presume. I was thinking that the processor was thinking... do A, stop, then do B, stop, then do C. My error was thinking these ESP devices are 'single threaded' or not 'multi-tasking', however they are really multi-threaded and multi-tasking, because B can start before A has finished, I think I am experiencing. (Fortran N77 was my last class on the subject, long ago.) If the device is shut down before a transmission is completed (serial, or radio) then the transmission that was underway is not completed, right? For me that is a design discovery and an 'abstraction' convenience as it makes it easier for rookies like me. BTW: "cavalier 39" seems to be my default username when I have that gmail account open. My true identity is Craig Larson, a loyal patreon'ista. (I advise all Andreas fans to join Patreon and support the channel! Do your part!)
@olafkaus9826
@olafkaus9826 6 років тому
Hi Andreas, first: Thanks a lot for your detailed and interesting videos. Because the ESP32 also include Bluetooth, what is your opinion about a Bluetooth Mesh for Sensors? Especally in battery consumption. Thx, in advance Olli
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
I am no fan of mesh in general. If it would be useful, It would be used much more. In my opinion it is ok for a fe niches. BT only has a small reach.
@jobgreaves
@jobgreaves 6 років тому
Andreas, Thanks for the informative videos about IOT gizmos. You mention the limit of 20 devices per node. If we add another Master kind of unit can we get another 20 devices? What about 3 or more Master devices? Not sure where the limitations come from. Also: You sound very much like a friend from Bern. You too?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
AFAIK the limit is per device. If you add more devices, you can multiply this number. I think, most Swiss German speaking people have similar English accents...
@1CM69
@1CM69 4 роки тому
Great video, very informative. What alterations are need to your Slave code in order to receive data from multiple Master units?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
I do not know. Maybe Google knows more?
@1CM69
@1CM69 4 роки тому
Thanks for replying, I found the answer shortly after my initial post. 👍🏻
@hectormery605
@hectormery605 2 роки тому
Vielen Dank aus T/ucson Az. USA
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
Gern geschehen!
@thiagotenoriojordao
@thiagotenoriojordao 7 місяців тому
Hi Andreas! I'm trying to build a battery operated heart rate monitor using the ESP. First I was thinking in using it alone, but it uses too much power. I'll try to use ESP-Now. Before connecting and sending data, do you remember the consumption of the ESP? I need to power the sensor for at least 10s so the reading stabilizes and then, send the data to the other ESP witch will send to the internet. During this period (almost executing a blink test), what should be the power consumption?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 7 місяців тому
The ESP32 is not known for its small power consumption. You should find the power consumption of all modes in the datasheet. WiFi and BLE use the same amount of peak power because they use the same radio. However, ESP-Now uses less time for transmitting than standard WiFi. Maybe you can use the ULP for the measurement and only switch the MCU on for transmission.
@jozefgoral6812
@jozefgoral6812 3 роки тому
Great material. He helped me a lot to understand the problem you raised in this episode. I'm currently doing a similar project in college. would you help me and recommend some internet sources or a book in which this topic is extended? I also want to encrypt my connection and get the maximum point-to-point speed possible.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You have to do the research yourself because I am not interested in security and therefore have no knowledge. Books are usually outdated before they are printed ;-)
@gertux
@gertux 6 років тому
An other great video, as usual ! Did you check the impact of using encrypted transmission for the ESP-NOW ? LoRa is always encrypted. I wouldn't want to send clear text messages in a non-rural area.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
No, I did not test it. I am not transferring any secret messages across such lines, so I had no need. I think, you just enter a key and then it encrypts (somehow)...
@CintraxBR
@CintraxBR 6 років тому
Hi, great videos !!! For a 1-2km range which one would you use ? I have a small farm and would like to open and close water valves for the irrigation system. Thanks, Max
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
You can watch my videos on LoRa range. Wi-Fi is not made for big distances
@gorally2003
@gorally2003 6 років тому
great video!! I am trying to do a point to point using esp32/esp8266 to send a temperature from a max6675 to another esp32/esp8266 to output to my nextion display or a tablet. Thanks for all your great videos
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
You are welcome and good luck! If you have a sketch with mixed ESP8266 and ESP32 it would be nice if you share it. I did not find one.
@gorally2003
@gorally2003 6 років тому
Ok if i write one i will i hadnt decided if i'll use the esp8266 or esp32 or one of each I but I'll post a link to my git hub page as soon either fine wine or right one
@doit1374
@doit1374 6 років тому
Very nice video! Do you have an educated guess how the range would be of ESP-Now relative to WiFi range?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
I assume it will be similar, but I plan a video to check.
@eduardogodoy7621
@eduardogodoy7621 6 років тому
Andreas Spiess I am looking forward to see it!!! Thanks.
@andreasjell734
@andreasjell734 6 років тому
A very good video, thank you so much! I have a question. There are modules with an ESP32 and OLED and Antenna with LORA-Chip. For that modules, is it possible to use that antenna also for esp.now? Or only for LORA? Thanks
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Lora is a different radio on a different frequency. The antenna is only fo this radio. Maybe you watch my video concerning these boards.
@andreasjell734
@andreasjell734 6 років тому
I did, and still I am watching... But I can't find out if there is a module which Esp.Now is working with a external antenna (and not with the chip antenna)...?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
The ESP-07 module has aWiFi antenna connector
@andreasjell734
@andreasjell734 6 років тому
Yes that's right - but the ESP-07 is only an esp8266. I am looking for an ESP32 with antenna for EspNow
@davidrouet
@davidrouet 2 роки тому
Hi Andrea, did you try to check esp-now transmission range? Espressif says that it is better than wifi (around 400m). It's far less than LoRa! Esp-now seems to be a very good way to transmit data for LAN range but is not adapted for MAN or WAN use cases. Thanks for all your great videos. David from New-Caledonia (south pacific).
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
I am not sure if I tried it once. But I have some ideas and probably will cover ESP-now in the near future.
@mairswartz
@mairswartz 6 років тому
Very very cool. Something worth trying might be to measure signal strength and create a mesh with multiple devices
@hanstanner4639
@hanstanner4639 6 років тому
Like this? github.com/gmag11/painlessMesh
@mairswartz
@mairswartz 6 років тому
Oh wow!. thats pretty cool. But I don't think it uses ESP now
@hanstanner4639
@hanstanner4639 6 років тому
It does not, it forms a network with devices set to the same AP, even though the AP does not have to exist, just AP name and password must be the same.
@mairswartz
@mairswartz 6 років тому
defiantly one to play around with
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
It seems, that Espressif also offers a mesh ( espressif.com/en/products/software/esp-mesh/overview )
@sofianfadli7910
@sofianfadli7910 6 років тому
Cools... You are very awesome,Andreass !!! Why you can understand many things and create videos that are very useful just in a week? Are you doing research every day in your life? I'm courious...
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Yes, of course I work nearly every day and sometimes also the nights on my hobby. This keeps me young...
@Embeded_Geek
@Embeded_Geek 7 місяців тому
hey Andrew, Could you do a comphrensive comparison on WiFi, LoRa, Bluetooth, BLE, Zigbee, RF, GPRS etc.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 7 місяців тому
Maybe you watch my LoRa introduction video?
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 6 років тому
Hmm I way typing a message and somehow did a shortcut and lost it, going back to an earlier video I was watching, well earlier. My question is, does this ESP-now work with all esp8266's or just the model 12 and above? I have quite a collection of these devices, and I can really see some advantages using this form of communications, especially in our RV which we spend our winters in, hiding in Arizona, while the frigid winters of the Dakota's make old folks like us regret ever settaling up there. The Mojave Desert is a wonderful place to spend the winter, it's 72 degrees here now, while back home they are enjoying indian summer today with the temps over 50 degrees however at night the Dakota's fall to zero F or lower, while here in the desert, it can get darn right cool at 55 degrees or so. Anyhow thanks, we seem to share an intrest in many of the same devices, so I look forward to your posts, knowing I will learn something new every week, and I have this strange belief that if you learn somthing new every day, you can fight off old age.. Works for me, most folks have no idea that I am 66, most put me at about 40 and if I take off my beard, even younger....
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Sounds like a nice life! Here we prepare also for winter which can also go way below 0 (Celsius, of course). I traveled once from LA to New Orleans in 8 days, all backroads and still remember that it was a nice experience. Phoenix, Albuquerque, Los Alamos, Memphis, Clarksdale... Yes, ESP-Now should work on all ESPs. It is just a library.
@darkmatter5310
@darkmatter5310 3 роки тому
Ver nice and clean explanation about ESP-Now; quick question can we read message stream with mobile phone in wilderness?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I do not think so. For wilderness project you might watch my meshtastic video
@darkmatter5310
@darkmatter5310 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Thanks a lot, that is exactly I was looking; you are always fantastic.
@kevinroach9380
@kevinroach9380 5 років тому
Great videos! How about range? I need to get 200 - 300ft of point to point range. What is the best way to go?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому
If it is line of sight with no obstacles, WiFi might work. Otherwise LoRa is better. I would first try WiFi.
@olivercopleston
@olivercopleston 4 роки тому
Hi Andreas, thanks for the vid. Any idea what the maximum theoretical speed of ESP-NOW is? For context: I'd like to stream video from one ESP-32 with a Camera to another which has an LCD display. I've figured that ESP-NOW is probably the best protocol to its lack of overhead.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
It is always best testing it out because it depends on different factors. It should not be too complicated.
@HelmutTschemernjak
@HelmutTschemernjak 6 років тому
Hello Andreas, thank you for the videos. Your comparison is not taking into account the following LoRa modem features: a) A bandwidth 250 kHz and 500 kHz is possible with the LoRa chips, you tested 125 kHz. This means basically 2 or 4 times less transmitting time, resulting into energy savings. b) LoRa sending power can be adjusted between 2dBm and 20 dBm, I assume you tested with 14 dBm. To compare it with the ESP 2.4 GHz range, LoRa just needs 4 dBm power to offer similar ranges like the ESP. With 4 dBm LoRa needs about 40mA instead if 120mA, again a good point for LoRa. c) Waiting for incoming data (receiving), here LoRa needs only about 12mA, the ESP needs way more for listening for incoming packets. In our RadioShuttle protocol software for LoRa (www.radioshuttle.de) we implemented an automatic transmission power adjustment which basically means most of the time we need only a fraction of the power. Regards from the Arduino Hannover LoRa Group, Helmut
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Thanks for your feedback. I thought 5000 hours for LoRa was ok and I stopped :-) Frankly: This video was about ESP-Now, and LoRa was just used as a comparison for some aspects. Maybe I will once do another LoRa video and include your radioshuttle infrastructure.
@mjj2u2
@mjj2u2 6 років тому
One thing to consider is the significant difference in price between the ESP and the LoRa. Given the price difference I would pick the ESP every time especially since you need two for connections
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
:-)
@MudahnyaCoding
@MudahnyaCoding 3 роки тому
thank very much...i'm from indonesia
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are welcome!
@hollensted
@hollensted 6 років тому
Awesome. I have been thinking about how to send data between some of my sensors on esp's. I am just hoping one day that WPA2-enterprise will start to work on the eps's.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
I am not a network specialist so I do not know the advantages of such an "enterprise" infrastructure (at least for a maker like me)
@hollensted
@hollensted 6 років тому
It's what they use on university's so that's why i am interested. I work at an university, and i would be able to "roam" with my login an all of campus.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
Aha. That's what I thought.
@RajveerSingh-vf7pr
@RajveerSingh-vf7pr 2 місяці тому
Awesome... Just one question though... for esp-now... is it possible to have a deep slept esp32 and wake it up with espnow? What I want to achieve is, a tag that can have a small battery+buzzer+esp, can be attached to my car keys, so i can locate it with another esp :) it would be nice if the tag was in power saving mode in the interest of battery
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 місяці тому
Keep in mind: Deep sleep means also that the chip does not receive. I am not sure if this is what you want...
@AndersJackson
@AndersJackson 6 років тому
If you compare them, then you should use static IP, as you use static (MAC) address in the ESP-now. The data size for IP addresses are not a problem with the high transfer speed. ESP and LORA have much longer range. (ESP as it uses Internet, but have to have a router near).
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
1. Static MAC is not the same as static IP for me. My router does not like too many static IP addresses, so my limit is there. 2. I plan to do a comparison about the ranges
@AndersJackson
@AndersJackson 6 років тому
Static address are the same, what ever format they are in. As MAC address are the only address level for ESP-now, that is static addresses. IP dosen't actually care about MAC address, as that could be changed for the same MAC: That is different abstraction levels. With static IP, you don't need the negotiation time. Yes, that is a problem with small home routers.
@stefa6901
@stefa6901 6 років тому
Thank you for this nice video! Helped me a lot. I created my own code for Esp Now and it works fine, but....using direct ESP2ESP communication made indoor range of a device very short distance. It could not connect to other ESP8266 which was just behind desk. I am using ESP01's for this project. Do you have any idea why is it so? Bad antenna on ESP01 maybe?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому
I did not do any range tests, so I do not know. But I would assume a similar range as in" normal" mode
@luisprates8223
@luisprates8223 4 роки тому
I have just discovered ESP-Now thanks to your video, so thank you! Although I do wonder if it's possible to use an analog input on master (a potentiometer in this case) to control a micro-servo on the slave. I have tried searching about this but to no real results.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
This should be no problem. Maybe you divide the problem in parts?
@luisprates8223
@luisprates8223 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess thank you for the reply! Yes, I was thinking about reading the potentiometer value on master, converting into an absolute number between 1-255 and send to slave serial through esp-now. On slave, read the serial and use a "if" or "for" function to act on the serial value. I have yet to try this method but I do appreciate if you have any other method of going around this case or opinion about the validity of this :)
@goncalobarroso8493
@goncalobarroso8493 Рік тому
hi Andreas, im just starting with LoRa and i have a couple of Ra-02 modules working on 433mhz. Im planning to build a p2p coms between them my question is besides the frequency and max output power do i have to take in consideration things like duty cycle, bandwidth, payload size, etc like we do in LoRaWAN(i live in Europe dont know if its is important)? Thx for the great videos!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess Рік тому
Maybe you watch my LoRa introduction video (and other videos about the topic) to understand the difference between LoRa and LoRaWAN?
@partouelectric2353
@partouelectric2353 3 роки тому
Hello Andreas, Thank you very much for your incredible videos I am sending a square wave of approximately 20 to 30 HZ to a distance of 40 meters. with high integrity. Do you think ESP now would be a good choice? I would appreciate your help, Regards Kazem
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
ESP now for sure works across this distance if you have no walls in between. The rest is your job to test if you can fit your signals into a message.
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