I thought the same thing. I saw them in use on hydro-electric generators to maintain speed with differing water pressures. Instead of a throttle, they changed to angle of the inlet gates (or something similar. It was a while back).

@@joejansen7029 In hydro electric its wasn't for the changing water pressure but for the changing electrical load on the turbine that might cause the generator to speed up or slow down. Well spotted though :)

They used the same system in grist mills,both hydro and wind powered at least as far back as the 1800's.

@@joejansen7029 that is correct, in high head turbines the governor operates a “spear valve” to adjust the flow of water so that the output from the generator stays close to its rating, or a level chosen by the operator.

I think that's where the term "balls to the wall" came from lol

yes roots!

lol - my fave film mate

@@ThinkingandTinkeringI’m dating myself, but when my daughter was young we almost wore out the VHS tape.

@@ThinkingandTinkering No one would surrender to the Dread Mad Scientist Westley!

Me too, I thought "He's finally gonna do it!"

It sure is. Robert is a true gold mine. And i hope many will follow his ways. For it will all help us.

How wrong we were!

@@andrewbeck5547 what UKposts were you watching, dum bass?

No mention of the D-Drive? VRT Innovations. Sounds a lot more interesting than any of those mentioned!

@@cymacymulacra2301 who manufactures it or what system is it used in?

Ever heard of VRT Innovations? The D-Drive?

What bike do you have?

@@friedrichvonsnatch3501 A small 110 cc scooter, don't sound impressive, but 150,000 km's says otherwise lol

Good idea , but there is no feedback. The graal is to find a way to drive the ball by the output speed error. Not so easy if we want a purely mechanical system. if we mount the ball on an endless screw, we may drive this screw by a disk rolling friction roller. Output centrifugal weight will move the roller on the disk, with the roller at the center for the exact speed.

Was thinking it could use fluid pressure like a modulator valve on an older automatic transmission. The increased rpm would drive a pump to move the ball on a fluid filled rail and to have a spring attached that when rpm decreased it would return to its original position or if rpm is constant fluid pressure would be constant. The only thing is having the fluid pressure over come the spring pressure. Idk just thinking out loud lol. Lots of cool ideas hear

@@jeremybrown8263 Haha! Yeah..I think that would work. The reason I laugh, is because I clicked on this video because of the picture. The cone transmission that I, "invented" several years ago. And then, while reading these comments about regulators, I was thinking about using fluid pressure as a regulator. Actually, only moments before reading down to YOUR comment, which describes the very idea I was thinking on. Haha! Wonderful to be in such good company.

@@melvin6840 cool, I think my idea would work bit in a caveman since of it the guy with the original comment had I good idea about the centrifugal weights, I think maybe an electro magnet that would increase and decrease in intensity do to rpm could also work. But I feel like for now as of reliably fluid pressure would work best,we know much more about fluid dynamics than we do about magnetic effects...I assume I really don't know just still thinking out loud lol sorry for the typos

@@jeremybrown8263 I agree with you on that. Fluid pressure is easier to work with, I think. As the pressure increased, it could push (or pull) against a spring, and change the "gear ratio". Also, having a pressure tank would be a simple way to "start it up" without a load. The windmill wouldn't be pushing against anything until the pressure built up.

Wow, thank you!

That's where the term "balls to the wall" meaning "full speed" comes from.

lol - oops my bad! lol

It's the most annoying thing ever, believing you've created the next best thing the human race needs only to find out... Already done. So many sleepless nights thinking this is the one time I'm going to beat the odds. Urgh!!!

@@jonbutcher9805 Nice to hear I'm not alone. But I've gotten used to it. I guess that's one reason why older people aren't as innovative as young people, you get cynical and give up on trying new things.

@@TheRealFOSFOR amen brother. Dreams are for the young.

Cheers, mate!

@@rocklover7437 i had one of those for years, ran like a dream, the revers was as fast as forward .. lol

@@rocklover7437 yes they did and used the daf system for short period , my brother in law had one 👍

@@gj7685 the reason they put it in the 340 series was that they had a huge amount of surplus in stock after the merging with DAF

@@MRunar007 you'd think with modern tech some could revive the idea but then again we'll be going all electric although there's still hydrogen cars 😄

Sounds good what’s stopping you!

I'm assuming the force of the wind on the blades pushing would cause the cone to be forced back further into the permanent magnets, the magnets interacting with the stater, repelling it back when less wind force acts on the blades? Either way a brake still needs to be implemented for safety and sliding bearings. In the end cost and output Vs the old systems would be what people look at when you put this new design against the old

@@MrRedeyedJedi Yeah, the in-out movement could also be controlled electrically. You could perhaps add a cone on each side, like this , and achieve double the generation and braking effect by moving the outer cones towards each other. This way, you might obtain a magnetic bearing effect, reducing friction significantly and minimizing bearing maintenance. The cost should be offset by increased efficiency. I will build a small-scale prototype and see how it performs.

I have not thought the detail of @voidy remarks totally through. However, I cannot believe that a wind shaft would be viable without a thrust bearing. The dynamics are such as cause potential calamity at an early stage whether by fan or helix. CVT systems are about I/p & o/p linkage in this case in cone form. Electrically the suggestion of intensifying or reducing o/p relative to speed and power demanded in real world conditions would need proving. I imagine this would probably be by a fixed cone on o/p and a sliding cone on i/p. The travelling cone would possibly be via a mechanical scroll over a fixed distance according to speed with advance retard by mechanical or hydraulic recuperation. As you say this would depend upon the complexity of engineering design relative to current gear box economics. Engineering costs vary with availability of materials, the ability to work them, operational process of construction and the maintenance requirements one installed. To this must be added the financial desire of the backers who may well be a mindset apart from the developers. So can the new device if marketed outweigh financially the devices on the current marketplace and is there the political will for such a concept to succeed? This latter is important as if anything interrupts the paper trail of carbon footprint trading in which huge sums are made by financiers and politicians it is a dead duck and I make that statement with a considerable life behind me!!

@@Voidy123 you have a good baseline principle to start on paper, run in simulators, but don't over complicate what you originally thought of. Always start simple on original idea and build from there where needed. The issue with magnetic bearing idea, although a great idea on paper, is the magnetization can weaken over time and it only takes a tiny imbalance and itl stick to the side somewhere. You do have a good idea to work with though

what gear ratios do they support? is it more of a city bike or for more terrains? what are its advantages?

I love simplicity and think your spring load idea is brilliant.

Thank you! Cheers!

That, I never knew but makes sense. Remember old mechanical typewriters where the full stop would practically go through the paper.

Glad you enjoyed it!

I think you have seen the introduction of the Daf 600 which was produced from 1958 to 1963.

That run-away could be prevented by using a centrifugal governor in some way like those used to control RPM in old steam and fuel engines. Maybe a governor could pull up a rod connected to the ball at a certain speed to lift it up and disconnect the input and output shafts.

@@DeeDee-pw9pm See my other comment

So if you turned it on it's side, would the natural propensity for the golf ball to be attracted downwards by gravity be overcompensated by the speed of the turbine - ie. would it want to raise upwards (to an 'easier' ratio) as the speed of the input increases? (I suspect not but might be an interesting test)