Its too bad you yukrainians are only too happy to have a puppet gov controlled almost entirely by the US. For the 8 years prior to feb 2022 kiev had been using military grade weapons against its own civilian population in eastern yukraine.

We see you, Kyiv, and we are deeply, deeply furious this is happening. Also deeply disturbed at how the world's collective attention spans are so limited. We will keep pushing EU and US to make this stop.

@@citizencrane658 I think the US/UK/Canada have done more than their fair share of 'helping' yukriane. The US sent an entourage of american politicians to kiev in 2013/2014 to take part in a very public demonstration and fan the flames of an armed conflict. The US/UK/Canada actively worked to undermine and overthrow a legitimate sitting gov in kiev in 2013/2014, the US gleefully aligned with yurko-nazi elements in yukraine of which there were apparently too many, additionally the US funded, has been and continues to fund and support yukro-nazi elements in kiev and greater yukraine. Most of whom in fact hail from western yukraine. Your dedication to your abject stupidity is a trademark american trait, ingrained deeply apparently. I write this response not for you, although it is important that someone tell you that you are an idiot. But instead I write this response for future readers who will look back and wonder what happened, why did the 'US get this wrong'. Because the reality is that the US, or more specifically certain elements in the US gov who have no interest in adhering to what is correct and the spirit of what the Founding Fathers intended. In fact not 'merely' the spirit but in fact what THe Founding Fathers had warned americans to be about, that is to not meddle in the affairs of foreign countries. And what that having been said one has to wonder why exactly did an entourage of american 'elected' officials and employees of the US gov had specifically travel to yukraine in 2013/2014? There was no war, no one was shooting at one another in yukraine prior to 2013/2014. Only when the US government 'officials' arrived in yukraine in 2013/2014 did the shooting really start. So may you burn in hell, this bastard tymothy snyder will definitely burn in hell for all of his abject lies and all those politicians who have dragged the US in to this will definitely burn in hell. I say this as a JEWISH person whose family in fact comes from the former soviet union, the part that currently temporarily calls itself yukraine. I say this as a JEWISH person whose JEWISH ancestry who were sent to an untimely death at the hands of the invading nazi horde scum and their yukraine/romanian collaborators during ww2. I say this as a JEWISH MAN! Whose JEWISH FAMILY FLED to the west to get the hell away from all the war, xenophobia and tyranny in the late 1970s when I was too young to remember, understand or know anything. As A JEWISH man who grew up in the US I had read as many books as I could to try to be 'more american' because I was called the 'little commie' in Hebrew school, or I was called 'the little Jew commie' when I was put in to public school. As someone who grew up an 'american' and tried hard to understand and appreciate everything I had which I was told about that my relatives didnt supposedly have where they came from. That one thing was a sense of PEACE! But thanks to morons like YOU and that bastard timothy snyder the US has gleefully not only meddled in the affairs of a foreign nation, but the foreign nation which my JEWISH family fled and wanted nothing more to do with it. To add insult to injury the US has gleefully aligned with the spiritual successors of the very nazi horde scum who sent my JEWISH family to an untimely death. And morons like YOU and tymothy snyder want me to simply close my eyes and be comfortable with that. Oddly enough something the Founding Fathers in fact discouraged the average american. But your stupid idiotic complacency has given rise to your dedication to your stupidity.

You get an extra credit

So, the US fits these criteria for Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, Korea, Vietnam, the Philippines, Indonesia, am I missing any?

Just so. Thanks for that.

@@collincordova9780 except that none of those conflicts were genocidal in nature. You are shitposting.

@@collincordova9780 If you put together all of them, you probably get the whole list, or at least can make a strong case. It would take an enormous amount of text to even start to do justice to the question though. Not happening in youtube comments. Weird to see Indonesia on the list about the US, given the absence of direct involvement in the most obvious periods of Indonesian violence. We can't accurately say China is committing genocide in Ukraine, and even if they started supporting Russia more substantially we still couldn't.

15 sec. is indeed accurate!

Thank you kindly. We are deeply grateful for your help here in Ukraine 🇺🇦

@@olgierdvoneverec Ukraine deserves it. You're fighting for all of us. Thanks.

Thank you from Ukraine!

The US media does not allow Snyder to partake in the contrary because Ukraine paid him and the Levin Centre at Yale to rewrite the history of Ukraine in Ukraine’s vision without critique or peer-to-peer review. So, as I have stated in my comments, he is a Political Commissar and not a Historian, unlike Robert Paul Mogisci of the University of Toronto. From 800 to 2022, “Ukraine this and Ukraine that,” Ukraine never existed as a nation or region until 1922! An example of Snyder is “ Ukrainian Cossacks helped lift the siege of Vienna.” The correct term would be the Zaporizhzia Cossack Hetmanate, who assisted Poland in lifting the siege of Vienna. So, an example of his Wokeness. I cannot find any reference in Ottoman writings or Polish Lithuanian Writing mentioning Ukrainian Cossacks, can you? Even Wikipedia does not refer to the word Ukrainian Cossacks in Vienna!😮 I cannot find any reference to the word Ukraine in any Treaty developed in the region until 1918, when it was mentioned in the Treaty of Brest-Livostk 1918. So, if you want some historical context, read Mogocis Books.

Do you know that "Slava Ukraine" was moto of people, who cleared out Wolyn? You are so forgiving. May be Putin should nuke Krakow, and your grandchildren will say "Glory to Russia" to find mighty ally

@@IvanIvanov-ho6rz curious fact: Wolyn is in Ukraine.

@@leszekleszek773 Yeah, it's their land and they had right to do what they want with foreigners!

I'm sorry to say, it sounds like your father was a lunatic like you. You claim that you trained yourself to be able to recognize patterns of a holocaust. Then why did you remain silent for the 8 years leading up to feb 2022? For 8 years kiev had been bombarding its own citizens in eastern yukraine because they refused to accept the puppet gov that my governmet, the US government installed in kiev in 2013/2014 following the violent maidan coup. The maidan coup which my US gov in fact funded and fanned the flames of hostilities against the legitimate sitting government in kiev which was in fact duly elected by the citizens of yukraine. For 8 years you being so 'self rightseous' remained utterly and completely silent while the kiev regime that followed the violent disgusting maidan coup in 2013/2014 which was funded by the US gov, for 8 years you remained silent. Then all of a sudden when Russia finally says it had enough after using every venue and avenue available, when kiev did not adhere to any minsk accords at all whatsoever Then in feb 2022 you suddenly wake up and act outraged. Go back to sleep and stop bothering normal people.

I'm a Ukrainian, and unfortunately in December we had to move to the US (where my husband is from) to support our family both in and out of Ukraine, our army and volunteers financially. And sometimes when people here say: "Oh, i just wish this war ended asap because gas prices went up so high" i feel like saying "Oh, i'm sorry i didn't die for your comfort! Let me fix it!" and hand them a weapon. I know everyone in my family and all my friends will be dead if russia takes over, because that has already happened to my ancestors before. It's like they watch an action movie, an unfortunate byproduct of which is an economic crisis. There is a saying "The world is ready to stand against russia till the very last Ukrainian", which i think is very true. And hey, we're cool with it as long as everyone else hust gives us means to fight and stay away🤷🏼‍♀️ I do hope it will end soon. And we'll be back home to rebuild the stolen and destroyed and bury our dead🇺🇦 Thanks for the support💙💛

@@liliiablazheieva8959 Your ancestors died at the hands of the Russians dead they? You say that the "Russians will kill' you? You know this for certain? Maybe your ancestors were nazi kollaborators during WW2? Too many yukrainians were only too happy to align with the invading nazi horde. Some of those yukrainian nazi kollaborators along with their romanian cohorts sent my JEWISH ancestry to an untimely death. My family fled to the US in the late 1970s during the communist era. Strangely for some reason you managed to stay right up until only recently in ukraine. Your whole family seems to have been very comfortable with the communists. Oddly enough my JEWISH ancestry was not at all happy with the communist regime and the bolsheviks who came before them and my JEWISH ancestry is in fact from the former soviet union. The part that *temporarily* calls itself yukraine. You have something to say on this matter only today? Where were you 8 years ago when the US undermined and overthrew a legitimate sitting government in kiev? Then over the course of the 8 years that followed kiev had regularly sent the yukro-nazis to murder innocent UKRAINIAN civilians in eastern yukraaine. YOURE OWN COUNTRY MEN!!!!!! supposedly!!! The only thing I have been incredibly surprised by these last 8 years is how utterly and completely idiotic and stupid too many yukriainians are. You say the 'Russians will slaughter your family'? Like I said it is very possible that you are the descendants of nazi kollaborators who sent JEWISH people of ukraine to an untimely death during WW2, JEWISH people like MY JEWISH ancestry. My JEWISH ancestry goes back at least 4 generations in a particular part of yukraine, and back then it was part of Russia. What about you?

@ThunderAppeal You sould like a conspiracy theorist)) and also you basically deny my existence, the existence of Ukraine. That's what nazis did to jews, btw, so i'm not sure how your Jewish ancestors, who suffered from that greatly, would react knowing your position, which is fascist in nature. Ukraine exists and will be, despite your own wishes and ideas, for the next many decades for sure🤷🏼‍♀️ i'm sorry that you fell victim to russian propaganda though. I hope after russia falls you'll set your mind straight As for your question: 8yrs ago i was at Maidan, starting day 2 (22 Nov 2013) and until finally our evil then-president Yanukovych was kicked out. As all my friends were, everyone fought, made Molotov cocktails and etc. We've turned a couple of churches (st.Michael's and st.Olexander's) into hospitals too. Haven't seen any CIA agents around, btw, but maybe you have proofs that they were present? 🙃 All my friends and acquaintances partook, and i'm proud and happy to have been a part of the revolution, no matter the position of a random internet commentator like yourself The part you question about my ancestry is weird, but ok) So, my greatgrandma (well, all of my family actually, but the other ones were just nurses and soldires at war, so nothing to add) was a part of a sort of mixed Polish-Ukrainian ancestry. Her father was killed in a WW1 and then (i don't remember the whole story of when exactly) her mom with 2 kids married a new man, with whom she later had 3 more kids. When he nazi took over this part of Ukraine, greatgrandma's oldest sister was sent to a workcamp in Germany and only returned after the war. My great grandma was supposed to go too, but her parents have created a scheme: they would put out her younger 15yo sister Yanina every time Germans would call out her name. Yanina was very weak and small, so every time they would just leave her alone while my greatgrandma Bronislava was hididng at the cementary😅 She also lost her husband and a baby in 1941 (he died at war on the Soviets' side, baby died a month after birth). She later remarried my great grandpa who was wounded and retrieved back to our hometown, and had my grandpa a week after the WW2, and then another son. Died when i was little. Both sides of my family lived in this town for many generations and fought on the USSR side, because it seemed to them as a better evil. When my parents were children, my mom was shamed for being religious. Now i don't know what sort of history you've learnt, but the USSR would send into camps and kill Christians in quite great numbers. When she was seen at the church, the next day she would be brought out in front of all the school and publicly shamed by her school headmaster. My mom's family hated the USSR, but they loved Ukraine nevertheless. My dad's side was more a USSR-idealist until the war in 2014. And even then he still said he wouldn't like to fight against his former army friends, until this year. Now even dad knows to shoot in a direction of the russian language. I find it very strange that you question why my family never left the country - why would they? We love our country. We want to defend it. This is our land, and some imperial maniac can go to hell with his weird ideas of world order. It's a shame i gave birth just 2 weeks before this invasion in 2022, otherwise both me and my American husband would be at the front lines. We did volunteer for a while, but when it became more systematic we were no longer at a demand. We still donate, and if it comes to when there will be noone to draft i will leave the baby for my mom and join in. Yes, i would 99% be killed. Because i speak Ukrainian and identify as such, and i won't change my nationality just because someone wants me to, i would resist. And everyone i know closely would too. More so, i used to work in police and the army, so i wouldn't have passed the screening camps. My husband as a former US Army soldier would also not be treated nicely😬 They hate every nation other than themselves. But we do plan on returning to Ukraine after the end of his contract here and help rebuilding the destroyed and stolen.

@ThunderAppeal And speaking of deaths from russians i meant holodomor. You should read up on it, but i think there is a lecture about it from prof. Snyder in Yale course "The Making od Modern Ukraine". Highly recommend. As well as the movie "Mr Jones"

Thinks clearly based on initial faulty statements. What a manipulator!

@@andreylvov9372 And what are those "faulty statements"?

@@AlexanderReef don’t Feed this Pootin troll

@@AlexanderReef Putin never said that Ukrainians don't exist as a people. He said that Ukrainians are the same as Russians. That is the opposite of genocidal rhetoric. In genocidal rhetoric, one claims that the victim/target is not human, or subhuman in Putin's rhetoric, he claims that the Ukrainians are the same as us (Russians) So Snyder is obfuscating the facts. Furthermore, what Snyder calls "Deportations" would probably be justified as "evacuation from a war zone" by the Russians.

@@dwl3006 Putin said that before the war. But then he found out that Ukrainians dislike him and his Russian "liberators" very much, and that they accidentally have a different language as well. After that, Russian TV propagandists changed their rhetoric demanding not liberation but destruction of Ukrainian cities.

You care so much about white massa. What a good Ukrainian!

Common mistake made by Western Europeans and Americans is looking at Eastern Europe through Russia's eyes.and claming "they are all the same". They are not.

@@Blanka1100 Ukrainians and Russians are both descendent from the Kingdom of Rus. The difference is that Russians acknowledge Ukraine as equal inheritors of Rus origins, while Ukrainian nationalists deny the Russians' Rus heritage. The Ukrainian nationalist rhetoric is that Russians are Finno-Ugric, whereas Russians accept Ukrainians not only as fellow East Slavs, but as fellow inheritors of Rus. One of these people is trying to kick the other group out of the special club, and it isn't the Russians.

@@dwl3006 Today Putin calls Ukrainians "little Russians" and he does not want Ukraine to exist so it tells you something about his state of mind and that is all that matters,

@@Blanka1100 Even Dostoevsky called Ukrainians "Little Russians" in his literature. It's not that he doesn't want Ukraine to exist, but that he wants Ukraine to exist as a 2nd Belarus, and not as a NATO Base. BTW, the fact that he calls them Little Russians (I never saw him actually call them that, but I'll take your word for it, suggests that he sees them as his fellow countrymen, or essentially like "Little Brothers") So you are right that it does speak to his state of mind, but not in the way that you seem to think, or to the state of mind that you seem to think.

It’s not a quote from the Rus tv. As a historian, he must check his sources before presenting anything to the public as facts, otherwise the rest of what he says becomes questionable. Now everyone is capable to check it, just google.

@@hawkeye-007 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Krasovsky en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasovsky_case He worked for RT as a presenter. He said it on a broadcast. The broadcast doesn't have to be on TV. He was still a representative of RT.

@@aleksmark5280 again, if one calls Rus tv a state tv, it’s not a correct reference. We have plenty of crazies in the US, for instance Alex Jones is one of them, but we do not connect his statements to the position of tv channels. Also, the statement of this guy was widely condemned and he was fired. Read what you sent carefully. «The Krasovsky case is a political scandal which was caused by the statements of the Russian Anton Krasovsky, who said that Ukrainian children who hate Russia should be drowned and burned.[1] The scandal caused a wide public outcry in Russia and Ukraine.[2][3][4]»

As I recall the discussion as presented in various English language press, part of the quotes used here *are* from a Russian TV broadcast -- translated words of Anton Krasovsky (Антон Красовский); and part from a different source: translation of words used in video published by Pavel Gubarev (Па́вел Гу́барев). So there is not just one "it". And some of the multiple "its" are indeed translated quoting from Russian TV. --As can easily be verified by searching for these speakers' names and a few keywords on youtube, google, and many news outlets.

@@davidwright5094 absolutely accurate.

It is insane how long introductions to lectures take these days.

@@PalleRasmussen yep... and with no offence intended to these particular introducers (this is a larger trend) they are rarely interesting enough for online upload (too long and too dry and awkward to keep people from clicking off... it's a sad fact but a true one that many people these days would click off even if I would not. lectures need to know they are catering to both the online and live audience since while the in person audience is well... the audience... more people than in that room by several times have watched it online)

Also the nearest Ukrainian Catholic church -- America has many.

@@teresastolarskyj I didn't think of that! Thanks :) Yes, absolutely though, the Ukrainian churches in the US are a great place to check, and even volunteer!

Yes.

Act. Act on the heartbreak.

Yep It is, we 🇺🇦 are in a survival fight Some of are here in US, and not soldiers by training, so it’s no help to go to frontlines But every modern, fully equipped army soldier needs 12 employed civilians to support him. So my front is working and sending help/resources - it’s the only thing that keeps me sane Finding something actionable is the key to process the shock, rage, and heartbreak

"History has long been seen as having the value of helping us to recognize where we came from ...." Really? Now if one reads all that history only in english, it's rather small, also one-sided (the victors savages point of view) As for genocides, record as many as you want, and be able to sum up as many numbers (instead of human beings). Lets see Timothy uncle speak of the Israeli genocide of Palestine for once? I bet one dollar .. No He will not, cannot. Meanwhile other genocides will follow. Adios History Balls One Sided Echo Chambers

@@AudioPervert1 you name actually gives away what you are. Your gross comment confirms this fact. May you find compassion for others.

Ukraine is every bit as corrupt as Russia is. Secondly, Russians don't claim that Ukrainians don't exist as a people, they claim that Ukrainians are the same as Russians. Do you understand the difference?

UN, Amnesty, others are "monitoring" but I see no plans for rescue, just threat of "war crimes trials" too late to halt the damage. 10k + Ukrainian families registered a missing child family member. June 22, Russia proudly proclaimed 300k Ukrainian children in Russia, estimates now about 700k. Adoptions are proceeding, 100+ in Donestk alone by July 22. (This has chilling echoes of Himmler's 1940 Germanisation of "selected" Polish children program, of which perhaps 1 in 8 "selected" children returned to their families after 1945. Kidnap + non-selection generally meant the child perished.)

It's in the process....officially... Unofficially some were able to return Some are able to refuge to Europe Small amounts of people....though

Can you provide a link please?

@@mmazourov UKposts doesn't allow links except to youtube videos, understandable. "Brave New World of Putin Ria-Novosti" brings the Ukrainian article to the top of the list in the 2 search engines, and there is an active link at the end of the first paragraph of the article.

@@pynn1000 thank you! Will try to find and read it...

@@pynn1000 just read the original. I think the confusion is based on the paragraph where the author says "now the problem is gone, Ukraine returned to Russia"... As a Russian speaker and someone who studied Russian literature I can tell you that this is a quirk of Russian language - it doesn't mean that this has happened, but it is a foregone conclusion rather than a done deal, it has to be taken in the context of the previous text where the author describes the trend of separation between the people of Russia and Ukraine. I am also amazed how insightful the author was vis-a-vis the fate of Europe (Germany in particular, but also France) and the drive for separation of the global South from the big western alliance. Good read, thank you.

Similar way, do you think Xi of China may decide not to leave the Taiwan question for future generation?

“Never Again” can be either a call to action or an abrogation of responsibility to act. If we take the Holocaust out of history as something so unique that nothing can be compared to it, saying “Never Again” becomes a meaningless incantation.

It goes to show how dangerous the political or ideological abduction of religious feelings can become. It is of course a terrible sacrilege as well. I'll never understand how the Orthodox heresy was able to pervert the religious faith to such a degree. I guess it's by means of the strong nationalistic component, totally incompatible with the universality of the Gospel.

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"Old russian literature" - are you sane? Russian literature couldn't be older than 1721. Maybe old ruthenian literature? See, how one word can change everything. Oh, and Novgorod wasn't Rus', because in chronicles were passages like "voyage from Novgorod to Rus'", that's it.

All these topics are discussed at length in his Yale class which you can watch on youtube. In the notes you will find reading material and in the classes he cites may sources. I'd have a look at that.

@@Diggnuts thank you. I have sat through a bunch of them, but none had sources. Can you provide a link to the specific video (there are 20+ of them)

@@mmazourov you are a liar. Period. The sources listed in " Bloodlands" were denied in the same words you put in your post. Go back to your motor cycles and what ever your grift is until you are deported. Ive run into your kind of Krembot before, mostly engaged in some form of petty crime, and some American born lefties stuck in the 1970s. What Snyder is quoting is RUSSIAN STATE TV easily available on You Tube, so You are very simply a bull shxt genocidal denier.

@@mmazourov Here you go with one of the videos - enjoy... (it is original - in russian, which is most likely your native language Comrad Мазуров). ukposts.info/have/v-deo/oGOke3tsfX5_l6s.html