2023 4WD UTE COMPARISON - Top Pickups tested Off-road - Shock winner!

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2023 4WD 24/7 UTE OF THE YEAR IS HERE! 🤩 Want to see how the 2023 model dual cabs, pick-ups & bakkies stack up against each other?
Models we test in this video:
👉 Isuzu D-Max X-Terrain
👉 Ford Ranger Wildtrak X
👉 Volkswagen Amarok Style (NEW!)
👉 Toyota Hilux Rogue
👉 Mazda BT50 GT 4x4 Thunder
👉 Nissan Navara Pro 4X Warrior
👉 GWM Cannon XSR (NEW!)
We go through EVERYTHING from engines & gearboxes to suspension & brakes. What rig will reign above them all? 🏆
What we cover in this 4WD test:
00:00 - Introduction
04:50 - Off-Road
11:25 - Sand
18:40 - Towing
24:40 - Suspension
35:05 - Bushproof
41:24 - Engine
48:36 - Brakes
53:00 - Touring/Mods
54:30 - Comfort/Tech
58:45 - Value for Money
1:00:35 - Winner of 2023 Ute of the Year!
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Our 4WD Experts
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Colin from EFS: efs4wd.com.au
Chris from Tred: tredoutdoors.com/
Az from Mits Alloy: www.mitsalloy.com.au
Ian from Bendix: www.bendix.com.au/
Steve from Pinnacle: www.pinnacle4x4.com.au
Tommy & Liv from Performance Tourers: performancetourers.myshopify....
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Gear List
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Workwear & Equipment Safety: www.rsea.com.au
Jesse's GU suspension: efs4wd.com.au
4WD Seat Covers: razorback4x4.com.au/
Off Road Camper Vans: www.jawacampers.com.au
Towing Mirrors: www.clearviewaccessories.com.au/
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@4WD247
@4WD247 4 місяці тому
TIME TO HAVE YOUR SAY! Which of these would you own & why? Tell us in the comments below!
@crunchied8
@crunchied8 4 місяці тому
I am still wondering why havent you guys got the Mendez Benz x-class 4wd ute
@OutbackOffroadNT
@OutbackOffroadNT 4 місяці тому
Hilux, proven and durable, not saying people haven't had dramas. But I've owned two here in Central Aus for bush work and were bullet proof. I'm onto a 2024 LC79 now another solid rig!
@chestogaming51
@chestogaming51 4 місяці тому
Mitsubishi triton
@KiwiPokerPlayer
@KiwiPokerPlayer 4 місяці тому
For us down here in Au and NZ there's only one choice. Hilux all day long. Any shortfalls have been well and truly addressed in the aftermarket and a there's a massive amount of aftermarket options, parts easy to find, easy to work on and everyone knows how to work on them. If you can't afford a 70, Hilux is the next best option.
@bradleybarker4268
@bradleybarker4268 4 місяці тому
Where is the Triton... Where is the bang for buck ute!!! We see enough of these utes plasted all over youtube, id rather see the underdogs perform.
@seanflanigan4508
@seanflanigan4508 4 місяці тому
Shame a Triton isn't in this lineup, but with a new model coming, probably worth waiting to see what the next model has to offer.
@HowiesMotoFix
@HowiesMotoFix 4 місяці тому
I agree 👍
@johnmurray9432
@johnmurray9432 4 місяці тому
Next February
@abhishay22
@abhishay22 4 місяці тому
Mitsubishi should focus on cars like the colt and small suvs
@ProofBenny
@ProofBenny 3 місяці тому
🤣@@abhishay22
@petercraig4648
@petercraig4648 Місяць тому
I would have liked to see who the Triton would have gone against these newer generations of utes. Especially considering when the MR came out on top in this series of tests when it came out. Seeing how it aged would have been great. Not too sure that the new generation coming out is going to be as capable off roader going to the bigger size sometimes size ain't everything.
@ResponsibleID1OT
@ResponsibleID1OT 4 місяці тому
Amarok - 75 Wildtrak - 71 Cannon - 67 Navara - 69 D-Max - 72 BT-50 - 72 HiLux - 74 Total Scores if anyone was wondering 1:00:33
@ScottMcS
@ScottMcS 4 місяці тому
Yeah Hilux was not best at anything but still always managed to get equal top marks. Go figure who gave the scores. Jocko
@ResponsibleID1OT
@ResponsibleID1OT 4 місяці тому
@@ScottMcS lol you right
@charlesanim-mensah359
@charlesanim-mensah359 4 місяці тому
Hilux is the real definition of `let them come "
@Sh1tstir
@Sh1tstir 4 місяці тому
@@charlesanim-mensah359 hilux is in a real need of an upgrade it is old outdated and running off a name at the moment. It's ride and handling really are put to shame, not to mention the interior noise and its lack luster motor and power delivery. Forget the tech side because my dads new mobility scooter has more. Simple truth Toyota got lazy with this car and should have by now fixed the issues. The last truly decent hilux was 2 generations ago with the N170. After that they have just been mediocre. Maybe this new series will address some of the issues when it arrives in the next 2 years ........ one can only hope
@Mon.day777
@Mon.day777 4 місяці тому
Should have tested the 3L V6 Wildtrak instead.
@paulvictor9368
@paulvictor9368 4 місяці тому
Guys, I so value this proper testing of utes and wagons every year. I feel this is the most in-depth and knowledgeable test done yearly. Thanks.
@Khaos_1325
@Khaos_1325 4 місяці тому
Gonna be really interesting a a couple years with the GWM getting the V6 hybrid, new Triton, new Kia and the new Mahindra world Ute looking like a promising entry level competitor.
@jamesstott6616
@jamesstott6616 4 місяці тому
Ssangyong musso too.
@casissa5177
@casissa5177 2 місяці тому
Hyundai coming out with one too!
@port8565
@port8565 Місяць тому
@@casissa5177 cap
@The_Stylus_
@The_Stylus_ 4 місяці тому
Don't forget, the Amarok is essentially a reskinned Ranger - thats where the V6 and low range transfer come from. Not having the V6 version of the Ranger probobly let it down. Its a little bit weird to compare the Amarok engine to the Ranger, since the engine is actually provided by Ford.
@vanderz1012
@vanderz1012 4 місяці тому
Think of it as a comparison in power train options. From that, we can see which engine is the better choice hands down
@jeanmichaelc1
@jeanmichaelc1 4 місяці тому
Engine is provided by Land Rover... 😂
@vanderz1012
@vanderz1012 4 місяці тому
@jeanmichaelc1 not really. Its Land Rover based but very different. It was used in the f150 for a long time and that performed decently in reliability
@The_Stylus_
@The_Stylus_ 4 місяці тому
Many of fords engines are developed in tandem with Land Rover - the 5 cylinder diesel used in the old defender was ford developed. This V6 i believe is largely developed from the ground up with what they learned from Land Rover experience. Plus, pretty sure it was engineered and developed in Aus.
@JDMJesseee
@JDMJesseee 4 місяці тому
​@The_Stylus_ V6 has been highly unreliable and the 10 speed auto has caused a heap of issues.
@PatDavis-qg5no
@PatDavis-qg5no 3 місяці тому
Something to note about the dmax tailshaft is that the lower spec model actually has a steel tailshaft, which is fitting to their rugged work focused design. So if you really wanted to, steel tailshafts are available to swap into the higher spec models.
@SharrodVisuals
@SharrodVisuals 4 місяці тому
Owned my cannon 2 years now, loving it. Send her up plenty of mud hills. use it as my daily for work. Great work horse.
@user-gh6cr5xd8c
@user-gh6cr5xd8c Місяць тому
Just bought a vanta, way better than my triton
@liambarnes86
@liambarnes86 4 місяці тому
I have a Cannon base model and it has so far exceeded my expectations and is an absolute beast of a ute!!
@simonhook2136
@simonhook2136 4 місяці тому
Geez, Jock picking the hilux, go figure
@angelotsi849
@angelotsi849 4 місяці тому
I was stunned!
@chrisbond5124
@chrisbond5124 4 місяці тому
Everyone actually stood next to the vehicle they already own.
@chrisledwith3216
@chrisledwith3216 4 місяці тому
Who would have thought
@DJTrumpMAGA
@DJTrumpMAGA 4 місяці тому
This is what I call a “Genuine” review. No sponsorships, no payments and no bullshit.
@Steegampoota
@Steegampoota 4 місяці тому
The boring, predictable choice, as always.
@Eblu0
@Eblu0 4 місяці тому
Was just trying to find recent videos on this subject - how convenient to have it from you guys. Great video!
@zaceagleson965
@zaceagleson965 4 місяці тому
Love the video guys! I work for Hervey Bay 4x4 connected with a ssangyong dealership. One thing I’ve noticed is that the ssangyong musso is really coming into play as a great towing and off-road vehicle. With 3.5t towing capacity. Can get them in a SWB coil sprung or a LWB coil or leaf sprung. With accessories like bullbars suspension available. I’d love to see next years video with ssangyong musso included. Thanks again boys!
@b_gonzz
@b_gonzz 4 місяці тому
No mention on fuel economy, I’ve owned a late 2020 hilux as well as a new navara. The navara gets nearly 250-300 km’s more per tank. Both 80L tanks. Think it’s something worth mentioning. In saying that I do think my hilux was better to drive than the navara.
@heinrichkilian2851
@heinrichkilian2851 4 місяці тому
Very good piont!
@Ryan-fb1ot
@Ryan-fb1ot 3 місяці тому
2.4 litre? Needs two turbskis there's the answer
@b_gonzz
@b_gonzz 3 місяці тому
@@Ryan-fb1ot answer to what?
@ronz6214
@ronz6214 4 місяці тому
Go the Nav, great looking ute for it’s age even before the new face lift. Have a 2016 STX and have accumulated 235,000km so far on mine with a tune making 200hp, lifted on 35’s. Mix of wheeling every month and towing a 17ft Jayco. The tune really wakes up the motor and throttle response without requiring a throttle controller. In the time of ownership (from new) I have only had 2 rear main seal replacements and the infamous leaky hot pipe and intercooler pipes that required replacing. Went with after market alloy pipes that costed approx 2.5K in total, so to be certain they will never leak again. 1K for the rear main seal out of warranty. It’s been a really capable ute, comfortable and has never left me on the side of the road stranded. For the 3.5K I have spent in the 6 years of ownership to rectify the oil leaks, I would say it was worth it and I wouldn’t have it any other way. I would definitely own one again unless Aus Nissan brings the big cousin Titan over, then all hands on deck haha.
@bears2604
@bears2604 4 місяці тому
I also have a 2016 stx. 243k atm. Done 3 hot pipes brought replacements at wrecker for $50. I know jp captured on UKposts promotes crg hot pipe which cost $450, platinum and others do them to. Very easy to put on. Im really happy with mine been a great vehicle good on fuel. No engine seals done. Only thing I don't like is they annoying horn which always gets bumped at the most awkward times. Might change for newer model wheel. But i vouch this is a great vehicle and more capable than others competitors in bush. They test numbers from these Muppets are stupid and predictable we know how it goes before it even starts.
@sckennedy54
@sckennedy54 Місяць тому
Thanks for the great information. I ordered the Nav pro4x with the 1% interest finance deal and the discounted price when Nissan just had their flash sale. The cost per week is about 1/3 or more lower than the rest excluding the Cannon and that gives a lot of room for personalisation and upgrades. With the recurve tune and a good aftermarket suspension, snorkel and tyres, will be a beast. It's also one of the best looking ones externally in my opinion although the interior leaves a bit to be desired. (At least they have put in heated electric seats now)
@Horuss12
@Horuss12 4 місяці тому
Great work as always gents 🤘 Would love to see a budget ute test too - Musso, LDV, base GWM, Mahindra Pik Up etc -
@joshblackmore1206
@joshblackmore1206 4 місяці тому
Totally agree. Some of these are brutally expensive but the budget ones are almost achievable
@danielthornton3277
@danielthornton3277 4 місяці тому
Like a race to the bottom of the ocean LOL
@Alidilman
@Alidilman 4 місяці тому
Chinese will be super unreliable
@AidanCran
@AidanCran 4 місяці тому
Can’t wait to watch this vid, but 2024 will be a cracker!! A new triton, new Hyundai, new navara, up against the relatively new ranger, amarok, hilux, dmax, and then whichever Chinese options. 👌🏼👌🏼 epic class and comparison in a year.
@ggff5580
@ggff5580 Місяць тому
i could watch this type of information all day long. very professional and fun
@mfabias1
@mfabias1 4 місяці тому
Great review guys. I tend to agree with Jocko with his ton of experience offroading, tested reliability is paramount to getting to the end of a trail.
@eternallearner8185
@eternallearner8185 3 місяці тому
The comment made a few times in this presentation "good for 10 years ownership" was my guide to selecting a new ute, I studied the market closely for three years and just recently bought a new BT50 , no regrets whatsoever, really getting to know and appreciate it. Much quicker and smoother than I was expecting, I'm banking on ten or more years use in the country. Been driving 51 years now and hand on heart the BT50 is the most fuel efficient car I have ever owned and is brilliant for distance drives, effortless feel at cruise etc. Will be investing near two grand for the aftermarket steering knuckle kit that alters the geometry and removes the bump steer problem, apart from saving tyres I'm told the front end will sit more stable on the road. Thanks for the test, I really enjoyed watching.
@darwonboyful
@darwonboyful 4 місяці тому
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to do this comparo.
@dominicharvey7140
@dominicharvey7140 4 місяці тому
I have a BT-50 FREESTYLE 2022 - very happy with it but need to do the front end fix. Really good review guys - very informative thanks very much.
@quimsoneian7776
@quimsoneian7776 3 місяці тому
I'll go with the nav, my dad owns one for work going from provinces to provinces, it has been really tested. With good maintenance, it can stay with you for long.
@AdventureBraten01
@AdventureBraten01 4 місяці тому
I absolutely love how you guys test these vehicles, you guys are by far the best vehicle testers and you actually TEST them and make them struggle which is what we all want to see
@JF-di1nr
@JF-di1nr 4 місяці тому
carexpert
@treboakuz8807
@treboakuz8807 4 місяці тому
Ranger should have scored a high mark considering the fact that it brakes better than the rest. Proud ranger owner😊
@juz010487
@juz010487 4 місяці тому
I pick up my cannon xsr next week. My first 4wd ute and will be upgrading alot of things on it so it will be a better ride. I think once some companies figure out a tune for them they will open up a little bit more potential in them and make up for the initial laggy throttle input. But coming from a old commodore i think i will be quite pleased with it and wont be regretting the outlay that it would take for a similar spec ranger or hilux.
@mikezog1030
@mikezog1030 4 місяці тому
You can probably get a tune and a whole lot of suspension for that price.
@Quozl
@Quozl 4 місяці тому
Amarok V6 with some mods, wheels, tyres, bullbar and a snorkel to start. Later on down the track suspension with a small lift. Perfection
@bni1887
@bni1887 3 місяці тому
I expected much more for ranger and amarok. The 4A mode is underrated. Test towing 3,5 to in rain. 4A will get you much more grip than 2H. And the bigger AT Tires on wildtrak X with Bilstein dampers, I expected best in class comfort offroad
@reelmm3311
@reelmm3311 4 місяці тому
Had my Hilux n80 since 2017 it hasn’t had one issue can’t go wrong
@themadmercenary
@themadmercenary 4 місяці тому
Great video guys, excellent work as always. Next year could you include the ssangyong musso 2024 version? Would be interesting to see how the adventure or ultimate version of the vehicle stacks up in the test and especially value for money. Cheers
@user-qs1vg3dv1h
@user-qs1vg3dv1h 4 місяці тому
Hi, After reading a lot of the comments, I too struggle to understand some of the scoring versus the points you have mentioned as both pros and cons. I believe that personal preferences got in the way of a what should be an unbiased review e.g adblue really, a tank lasts how many 000klms! And a new turbo position and controller on the Dmax is more reliable - what historic data do you have- plus if the engine was so reliable before - why did they move it. The reply comment on the V6 engine is disappointing given the crank has been revised, totally different outlook to the Dmax situation Only my view
@justjoe8303
@justjoe8303 4 місяці тому
Mr Colin C. Wow, a face from the past. He did the suspension on my MQ patrol about 34 years ago. Nice to see him still getting his hands dirty with EFS.
@xtz101
@xtz101 4 місяці тому
Hello thanks for remembering me :)
@Simon_Says_95
@Simon_Says_95 4 місяці тому
Been a huge fan of the Show for years- I love your work but I’m pretty gutted you didn’t test a Mitsubishi Triton!
@lunewolf1
@lunewolf1 Місяць тому
Especially having the super select
@campbellshepherd7882
@campbellshepherd7882 4 місяці тому
Love listening to jock and Jessie get into the car details both so passionate about the nitty gritty. They educate so well.
@JayWilFo
@JayWilFo 4 місяці тому
Thank you for all the work into making this a comprehensive video
@ericcalala9357
@ericcalala9357 4 місяці тому
Watching from Mozambique, Africa, I loved the comparison because we also use these models daily.
@4WD247
@4WD247 4 місяці тому
Thanks for the support - which one would you choose to own?
@LJ_Adventure79
@LJ_Adventure79 4 місяці тому
Personal I would get the navara there really nice utes
@stevegibbons4639
@stevegibbons4639 4 місяці тому
Excellent content folks. Thank you. When I look at the tables the D-Max lowest score as a 6 on suspension. That has me thinking there is the upgrade that would put it ahead on the pack!
@nathancarroll5859
@nathancarroll5859 4 місяці тому
Great video! Can't wait for the wagon version. Keen to see how the gwm tank goes up against the Prado, Fortuner, Everest and mux etc!
@dylancoleman124
@dylancoleman124 4 місяці тому
I've had my gwm cannon for 2 and a half years now, 3.5 inch lift all round and 35s looks mint and goes very good lacks in power and towing but it's definitely a good contendor
@JDMJesseee
@JDMJesseee 4 місяці тому
🤮 GWM
@cyclingscotty
@cyclingscotty 4 місяці тому
How does doing the lift mod affect the factory warranty I assume if anything goes wrong in the drive train, they could just say the mods are to blame?
@kentaylor2950
@kentaylor2950 4 місяці тому
If i were to go buy a ute right now, i would go look up a triton. With the new model around the corner you could potentially get a ripper deal.
@maxlodewyk_na
@maxlodewyk_na 4 місяці тому
Despite the older interior, the Triton is really a solid bakkie.
@James-fb9wn
@James-fb9wn 4 місяці тому
Bought a new one 2 years ago, brilliant ute at any price point. I'd recommend the GLX PLUS, as it's got the screen, rear diff lock, alloys and its pretty comfortable, only thing I'd recommend is getting a throttle control due to theag down low
@b.marvel6091
@b.marvel6091 4 місяці тому
Nice job guys. Very through - pin pointing critical areas. Thank you
@gabrielmumba8248
@gabrielmumba8248 3 місяці тому
Great comparison guys! Very informative and comprehensive!
@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310
@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 4 місяці тому
Would have been interesting to swap the ranger for the V6 version, and the amarok for the petrol version. I think having a high ish performance petrol engine may have confused these diesel guys a bit haha.
@thepinkertone
@thepinkertone 4 місяці тому
I've had the Cannon xsr for almost 5 months now (AKA P-Series limited in south Africa) and my only complaints are that it is a bit under powered when fully loaded and the suspension is a bit bouncy at times. Other than that its been an absolute dream! I've done quite a few tough tracks around here as well as some tough off-road game drives with zero issues. For me, the fact that it comes from the factory twin locked with a snorkel, good all terrain tyres, bash plates, built in 220V inverter with outlets in the cabin and the engine bay and a winch too in South Africa was a deal breaker. I'll have to see in years to come how the reliability holds up
@andrevdmerwe3107
@andrevdmerwe3107 4 місяці тому
For interest sake, why didn't you go for the Mitsubishi Triton?
@petersaunders7535
@petersaunders7535 4 місяці тому
​@@andrevdmerwe3107ive checked out both, being 6 foot tall i couldnt fit in rear seats in the triton.... dont own a cannon but its a great looking ute plus twin locked standard, just lacking power, they have a v6 version in china apparently coming to oz
@nicholaslisse5043
@nicholaslisse5043 4 місяці тому
I have the LS, with a Stage 1+ and that has solved ALL the power issues and throttle lag. Next I am looking at getting an EFS setup to stop the bouncing... so far I am VERY happy with the GWM
@farzana6676
@farzana6676 4 місяці тому
I'll never buy a commie car.
@thepinkertone
@thepinkertone 2 місяці тому
@@andrevdmerwe3107 I went with the GWM over all the other brands mostly because of affordability and the bang for your buck factor. All the aftermarket accessories I would have installed on the other Utes already came as standard on the Ltd/ XSR edition. (mainly: snorkel, winch and tyres)
@BENVOLIO9
@BENVOLIO9 4 місяці тому
Great reviews, Collin the EFS guy is a weapon, great clear explanations, hope to see more of him on here in the future
@hectorkidds9840
@hectorkidds9840 4 місяці тому
Yeah, good salesman, he could help you spend money on any of them.
@jackbruce309
@jackbruce309 4 місяці тому
Tom's knowledge is unbelievable.. could listen to him talk shop for hours
@empowered2win
@empowered2win 4 місяці тому
We got the Wildtrak X. Really good drive, lane assist correction and auto start/stop is a bit to get used to. We've had ours for about a week and about to drive it from VIC to QLD in another week.
@Hi_its_Kartik
@Hi_its_Kartik 4 місяці тому
I disabled auto start/stop, found it to be annoying. Does yours have a weird thing where the interior ambient light doesn't always turn on when driving at night?
@sylvanocergnulli7229
@sylvanocergnulli7229 4 місяці тому
They missed the mark by not or at least having the option of the v6,perfect vehicle for offroad/touring with that engine.
@tedeganagondi
@tedeganagondi 4 місяці тому
@@Hi_its_Kartikmine does the same is there an permanent solution for that?
@Hi_its_Kartik
@Hi_its_Kartik 4 місяці тому
@@tedeganagondinot sure, but I’m hoping it could be fixed by a software update. Not too bothered by it as it only seems to happen once a week or so with mine - so just a minor bug to deal with for now 😁
@RogerM88
@RogerM88 4 місяці тому
I'd enjoy watching the Team testing a Cybertruck. Not because I believe it would do great or under perform in some tough tracks, but I'm curious about the Stainless steel panels would handle impacts. Bent panels are one of my first concerns going to a trail.
@BogDustForBreakfast
@BogDustForBreakfast 4 місяці тому
The fact a 80lb bow shooting a arrow with a broad head bounces off it plus being bullet proof I’d say they are tough
@RogerM88
@RogerM88 4 місяці тому
@@BogDustForBreakfast It's not the hyped exoskeleton Tesla promoted, but a standard unibody construction with bolt on Stainless steel. And due to that, would be interesting if other Automakers would consider, bolt on Stainless steel panels for special edition off-roaders.
@BarnsleysOwnIdiot
@BarnsleysOwnIdiot 4 місяці тому
The first cyber trucks that make it to Australia will be way over a million dollars secondary market and instantly parked in showrooms. It will be a long, long time before we see them on a 4x4 track here.
@gpaje
@gpaje 4 місяці тому
It has a large stiff aluminum chassis with heavy body panels strapped to it, I don't know if I really want to take that off-roading.
@RogerM88
@RogerM88 4 місяці тому
@@gpaje My curiosity is around the body panels durability in the trails. And a possible application towards other off-roards, as some aftermarket Stainless steel body panels. As an off-roader, the Cybertruck due to massive weight, long wheel base, range, as repairability, It could be a terrible recipe to take it to some remote tracks.
@DiceyRicey
@DiceyRicey 4 місяці тому
Good review guys, always good to see the Utes getting stuck in offroad! 😁 🤙
@rjl110919581
@rjl110919581 4 місяці тому
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TEST OF UTE IN VIDEO SHOWING WHICH LITTLE BIT WORK ON SOME THEM MAKE RIGHT ARE FEW GOOD ONE FOR EVERY PRICE ON MARKET TOday
@addhmann
@addhmann 4 місяці тому
I took an hour to find out Jock wants the Hilux... all good I agree its the Luxy all the way 😀
@ianweal3081
@ianweal3081 4 місяці тому
Yes, the GWM is initially laggie but those power outputs aren't hideous niether, there's more on tap here than your hilux had Jocko, but everyone towed with them and loved em. Value for what you get, the GWM has to win hands down once you consider if you placed some aftermarket suspension on it the price is still far cheaper than anything else in the line up. I'd certainly go with one if in the market, but I'm not. Sticking with the Patrol wagon.
@perpelle
@perpelle 4 місяці тому
The biggest problem is politics. I would never ever buy a vehicle from a Chinese manufacturer and made in China.
@gdgdgdgdgdgify
@gdgdgdgdgdgify 4 місяці тому
​@@perpelleyour going to struggle by much of anything with that ethos
@brianross4057
@brianross4057 4 місяці тому
@@perpelle What do you drive now? Probably has something made in China, and the PC or Phone you wrote this comment on will definitly have something if not all made in China.
@ausdeerhunter
@ausdeerhunter 4 місяці тому
@@perpellebut you using a Chinese made phone tho where do you draw the line mate🤣
@perpelle
@perpelle 4 місяці тому
@@ausdeerhunter It's easy. Just read my other post.
@Trenticl
@Trenticl 4 місяці тому
I picked up a base model Cannon very recently, and im glad i did. I couldn't afford a more expensive ute, and I gotta say, value for money wise, you can't beat it. From a mechanics standpoint, it also looks super easy to work on. Yes, it's a bit sluggish and laggy on the throttle, but I think a throttle controller would make a night and day difference to this vehicle. As for the suspension, one thing to note is that the XSR has the same suspension as the base model but with all the added weight of steel bumpers and roll bars, i test drove an XSR and i gotta say, the base rides a lot better being lighter. That being said, most people are probably going to upgrade the suspension anyway no matter what they get.
@grego4835
@grego4835 4 місяці тому
Just slam your foot to the floor every time you take off. That is all a throttle controller does.
@jerrymyahzcat
@jerrymyahzcat 4 місяці тому
Value for Money and cheapest are two very different things. Cannon isn’t that great value for money but it’s certainly the cheapest here.
@jerrymyahzcat
@jerrymyahzcat 4 місяці тому
@@grego4835yes a throttle controller is a waste of time and money. I’ve been saying that for years. My vehicle has built in throttle response control in the form of Terrain Response.
@ensteffo
@ensteffo 29 днів тому
@@jerrymyahzcat Its the best value for money out of the segment. Sounds like you just want to justify paying tens of thousands to have the "correct" badge on your car.
@davidmanning8329
@davidmanning8329 4 місяці тому
Can't pretend to be surprised that Jocko would get the Hilux. He loves the almost complete lack of changes over the many years. The I in Toyota stands for Innovation... Me, I'm actually quite interested in the Amarok v6. looks very cool!
@DJ70404
@DJ70404 4 місяці тому
Why change what isn't broken. It's reliable and good. You don't need technology just for the sake of it. Technology is just prone to breakage. KISS.
@theseph28
@theseph28 4 місяці тому
Amarok is a city car
@davidmanning8329
@davidmanning8329 4 місяці тому
h28 yeah, if I'm honest I'd rather a v6 Ranger. The Amarok was interesting in the review though.
@JDMJesseee
@JDMJesseee 4 місяці тому
​@@davidmanning8329 v6 engine has alot of issues and the 10 speed auto also having major problems. Ford customer service is a nightmare to deal with.
@davidmanning8329
@davidmanning8329 4 місяці тому
@JDMJesseee doesn't match my experience, but enjoy believing whatever the interwebs confirms you already thought was true.
@ktmhaka
@ktmhaka 4 місяці тому
Love these Ute shootouts boys great job 👍 miss not having the Triton in this test but understand they want to hold off for the new one.
@AdmissionGaming
@AdmissionGaming 4 місяці тому
Why does everyone keep mentioning the triton?
@notagain2856
@notagain2856 4 місяці тому
​@@AdmissionGamingbcos the Triton is very capable off-road. Even the old model can still compete with the pickups here
@Cdog79
@Cdog79 4 місяці тому
@@AdmissionGamingbecause it would of been better off-road than any of these.
@silkyfox7603
@silkyfox7603 4 місяці тому
Something to point out with the Ranger and Amerock diffs with that that cover if you do snap a rear CV do you have the ability to pop off that back cover and push it out through there provided you’re able to access everything else without special machinery
@jcd2403
@jcd2403 4 місяці тому
I was waiting for the Triton, glad you explained why it's not on this time.
@kentcodes
@kentcodes 3 місяці тому
As a proud Navi owner, I can confidently attest to the exceptional performance and reliability that this vehicle brings to every driving experience. Whether conquering rugged terrains or cruising through city streets, the Navi consistently exceeds expectations, showcasing its prowess and adaptability. This remarkable vehicle has truly proven itself as an unwavering companion for those who seek an unparalleled driving experience across various landscapes.
@Sh1tstir
@Sh1tstir 4 місяці тому
Also got to love how Jocko as soon as he got the slightest wheel spin in the ranger was like nope better lock the diff in and everyone else just spun through it ....... has Jessie taught you nothing 😂😂😂😂
@vanderz1012
@vanderz1012 4 місяці тому
Thought that was a little weird and unfair lol. Should have gone again and seen how TRC took it up cause I'm pretty sure it would have done it effortlessly lol
@MrTonaluv
@MrTonaluv 4 місяці тому
Yes, notice how the girl kept going without the locker (to prove the Hilux didn't need it). Now they can say the Hilux is better... meanwhile Jocko didn't even try
@ausim1000
@ausim1000 4 місяці тому
Pretty sure traction control turns off when rear locker engaged in the Hilux as well - they forgot to mention that
@MrTonaluv
@MrTonaluv 4 місяці тому
@@ausim1000 actually I think the mighty Ranger is one of the only 4wd utes that still lets traction control work while the rear locker is on...
@logik1677
@logik1677 4 місяці тому
Great vid guys, Navara still for me tho. Interested to hear more on brake packages and rear main seal issues on them though
@YessirPauly
@YessirPauly 4 місяці тому
Yeah imma np300 man too, rear main seal hasnt been a issue for me just a hotpipe upgrade was and a cheap upgrade too
@125kingo125
@125kingo125 4 місяці тому
They also blow up mate
@nebuchadnezzar9641
@nebuchadnezzar9641 4 місяці тому
So do the Fords. Would not touch one. Nav’s don’t tend to blow up from brand new though.
@YessirPauly
@YessirPauly 4 місяці тому
@@125kingo125 im on my 2nd np300 never heard of them blowing up... but definitely throttle body and hotpipes are weakest point
@bears2604
@bears2604 4 місяці тому
They don't blow up they have been a very durable engine for many years in Europe.
@Hi_its_Kartik
@Hi_its_Kartik 4 місяці тому
Bought a wildtrak a few months ago, been very happy with it. Was a close one between the ranger and the hilux but wasn't completely sold by it's infotainment system. But without a doubt it's the vehicle of choice for reliability : )
@whomcares3438
@whomcares3438 4 місяці тому
As blue was introduced for buses and trucks 20 years ago. It’s available where ever trucks fill up.
@Thanju
@Thanju 4 місяці тому
Weve had it for many years in Europe. I refill adblue every 2000km. Should be enough for even the longest bush trip!
@matthewedwards5807
@matthewedwards5807 4 місяці тому
I wish this included a Jeep Gladiator
@empowered2win
@empowered2win 4 місяці тому
That's actually interesting it would have got eaten up with the juice and price. Gladiators are thirsty
@justinhuggett
@justinhuggett 4 місяці тому
DMAX every day of the week. Bullet proof and the best value for money!!!
@NathsHim
@NathsHim 4 місяці тому
Not when the v6 in the ranger exists
@user-vl8yj9ys2p
@user-vl8yj9ys2p 3 місяці тому
Just a fantastic presentation - Well done
@stuartlanigan4622
@stuartlanigan4622 4 місяці тому
nice show guys... i own a VW 4x4 (Mk 1 Touareg V6) it's now 18 years old... and the rear upper tailgate glass is a bit dodgy... Thats it... its got hi/low- with FCR diff-locks... I've owned a Toyota, Range Rover, Land Rover and a Volvo XC90... Here in the UK, all Land Rover products are really poor by comparison... (just because it works today, don't mean it'll work tomorrow) I bought the Dub, sight unseen 4yrs ago... i have not been disappointed...
@OutbackOffroadNT
@OutbackOffroadNT 4 місяці тому
Good work fellas 👏
@ozziefarmboy3569
@ozziefarmboy3569 4 місяці тому
Glad to see this type of test but shame you didn't do manaul transmission ones
@googleuser2170
@googleuser2170 4 місяці тому
Great test, I keep hoping Rocket Rod will come back for some sort of video.
@mgiblonski4318
@mgiblonski4318 4 місяці тому
Interesting review. I'm 100% with you on that one Jocko, I'd definitely take the Hilux for the exact same reasons.
@adudley18
@adudley18 4 місяці тому
Good vid boys. But I noticed lots of sentences cut off when going through the suspension setups. Keep up the good work! 👌
@gypsy_on_drugs1285
@gypsy_on_drugs1285 4 місяці тому
Didnt mention the fact the Cannons fuel filter is lower than the chassis and all the XSR offroad stuff isn't mounted very well. The steps are still bolted to the body with little nuts and studs not the chassis, the bullbar is bolted on with 4 bolts and no middle supports, the rear bar has questionable welds on the tow points and also mounted poorly to the chassis. The Cannons are also absolute junk to work on and good luck with any warranty. Majority of parts are minimum 2-4 weeks, just waited 3 months for a DPF. Oh they also have DPF issues with frequent manual regens being required.
@ianweal3081
@ianweal3081 4 місяці тому
You're missed the point of the GWM product. Steps: They are not rock sliders, just a solid step. All steps on any of these utes are mounted to body. Rock sliders are attached to chassis, EX. Rugged X. Steel Front Bumper: It's not a bull bar, it's just more solid than standard plastic panels. Mind you, in South Africa it gets a factory mounted winch built into it, so must be some rigidity behind it. Steel Rear Bumper: as above, more solid.
@DiceyRicey
@DiceyRicey 4 місяці тому
Done any work on the LDV T60 Max? How’s it compare with the GWM?
@jakewarren9465
@jakewarren9465 4 місяці тому
Had mine since May 2021, has had 35s on it since it was a week old, I have never done a single manual DPF burn in the 45000 kms I have done. I broke a rear diff (Big tyres, too much throttle lots of wheel hop). But other than that it has been flawless, it is a shame others have had bad luck with them. Couple of mates have wanted to get one and I have to steer them to the pages of poor buggers that have had all the issues, even though mine has been great.
@roamingroadsleavingtracksa7916
@roamingroadsleavingtracksa7916 3 місяці тому
Hey guys 👋 Love the ute of the year vids. Is it possible, when you do the 2024 ute of the year to have 2 levels of marking, ie towing in auto and towing in sports auto (manual shift) I would love to see how they all compare in this field 😀
@tbduggan85
@tbduggan85 4 місяці тому
Good comparison. It’s hard to choose a ute when you consider all the nitty-gritty. In the end, the ‘best’ one is the one that has the feature/aspect that suits your purposes best. I bought a ute early this year, not new but a low kilometer used ute to save money. I got a 2021 Isuzu D-Max X-Terrain. Love it. It’s stock, all I’ve done is put all-terrain tyres on it, a 12v system, drawer and other stuff for a practical camping and touring setup.
@jerrymyahzcat
@jerrymyahzcat 4 місяці тому
How did it not come with All-Terrain tyres? That’s mad. Can’t believe people don’t get ATs when they buy them.
@tbduggan85
@tbduggan85 4 місяці тому
@@jerrymyahzcat It makes sense that they come with highway tyres. The majority of dual-cab utes don’t go off road, used as family cars or as a tradie car (which doesn’t necessarily go off road). So for the majority of buyers, the regular tyres suit them. Also, a lot of ‘off road guys’ are pretty specific to which tyre brand/model they like, if they came with all-terrain tyres I suspect a lot of buyers might swap them for their preferred off road tyre.
@jerrymyahzcat
@jerrymyahzcat 4 місяці тому
@@tbduggan85 fair comment yeah. Perhaps they just need to sell with two tyre options then. One road and one off-road (AT). People often choose their own road tyres too.
@andrewmayer3575
@andrewmayer3575 4 місяці тому
I'm actually surprised the nav didn't get more credit I think it's a good looking ute and with that coil rear end its a game changer for the tracks
@Alidilman
@Alidilman 4 місяці тому
Engine aside 👍
@iDEMONiDEVIL
@iDEMONiDEVIL 4 місяці тому
They didn't give credit to the Nav in many areas. It has a dedicated Towing mode to cater for the gearing and engine revs. It has a 5-point linkage suspension system with a heavy duty thick swaybar in the rear. With the 2 mode springs in the rear it rides comfortably and tows great when loaded. I use one for towing and wheeling. I love it.
@theseph28
@theseph28 4 місяці тому
Nissan always scrimps in the main areas, it's a upgraders car.
@Sh1tstir
@Sh1tstir 4 місяці тому
Its a shity deal that the nav they tested isn't even a "full" production product it's an aftermarket option done by Premcar an Australian company sperate from Nissan.
@jackbrown286
@jackbrown286 4 місяці тому
the navara also has an auto cooler from facrory! not just the gwm
@iconiic1234
@iconiic1234 4 місяці тому
Good review and test 👍 For those with lockers, it would be good to see the first attempt without lockers to get a more complete comparison of traction, articulation and traction control systems, then with lockers engaged if it has it. And when lockers are engaged, a visual identifier would be cool. It’s a bit disappointing the Ranger Raptor and Jeep Gladiator weren’t in the test, and it would have been good to see the 79 in there too for completeness.
@jerrymyahzcat
@jerrymyahzcat 4 місяці тому
They all had lockers.
@iconiic1234
@iconiic1234 4 місяці тому
@@jerrymyahzcat Only one is twin locked, but all the others are rear locked. I missed the part where they mentioned first go without lockers, but those that did it without lockers didn't get a chance to see with lockers. We also didn't see the Cannon, BT50 or VW do the first hill, and the Cannon only did it with both lockers engaged - Didn't get to see traction control.
@emilejacobs2m53
@emilejacobs2m53 4 місяці тому
I have had adblue for a couple of years now and I don’t think it’s a big problem, 1 tank last for ever and even when the tank is empty you can still drive for another 3 or 4000 km before it won’t start because of adblue.
@RJR981
@RJR981 4 місяці тому
glad you guys finally got to test the cannon. great to see it did so well! had mine for 2 years now and its been great. ill continue to buy and recommend gwm
@jacksonwelch9870
@jacksonwelch9870 4 місяці тому
I don’t see how the BT50 which is the most expensive but did nothing particularly well got high marks for value for money Surely it should’ve lost a point especially when you can get the DMAX for less
@TheWombat2012
@TheWombat2012 4 місяці тому
I couldn’t believe it was eighty grand! Our GWM Cannon X (the top of the line at that stage) cost us under half that a year ago. Is it “half the car” of the others? No way.
@tiaanjansevanrensburg143
@tiaanjansevanrensburg143 2 місяці тому
Awesome Video, love watching to learn the latest. Have you guys looked at the Mahindra Scorpio Pickup?
@Simonstockton82
@Simonstockton82 2 місяці тому
Absolutely fangin for you lot to test the new triton. I bought a 2019 raptor after watching some videos of you guys testing one and it saved my life. Mental head on accident with an idiot who wasn’t paying attention video is on my UKposts, my brother works at mitsi and keeps trying to get me to order a new triton but I refuse to buy something until I’ve seen it here and tested by you lot!
@andrewmiddlemiss1508
@andrewmiddlemiss1508 4 місяці тому
Don't right off adblue. It becomes available in containers with filling nozzles and every fuel station and supermarket sells it over in the UK. I guess that will be the same over there.
@Piecenotwar
@Piecenotwar 4 місяці тому
Yeah I live in rural OZ and the fuel servo up the road has it on pump, plenty of hgv use Adblue here so getting hold of it isn’t a problem at all.
@chriswalker499
@chriswalker499 4 місяці тому
@4wd247. Have you thought of doing a Hilux generation test. Seeing how much the 4wd hilux has evolved from 1979 to the present?
@Campingdownunder
@Campingdownunder 4 місяці тому
Regarding dmax airbox needing to be heavily modified for a snorkel is false. If you fit a factory snorkel a replacement airbox comes with the fit kit with the inlet hole on the side rather than the front. But another fantastic comparison video guys. Very in depth 👍
@jazelfriederich3319
@jazelfriederich3319 4 місяці тому
Brought a bt50 sp great deal $7500 off sticker price ultra reliable used max at work slightly nicer inside than Dmax nicer trim
@commentkreeper3892
@commentkreeper3892 4 місяці тому
Another great comparison! I have a Navara and I've been really happy with it but so far in 145000 ks its done 2 rear mains, lost count of replacement intercooler pipes, multiple turbo lines and has now developed a mystery squeal at high revs. Lucky they are a good looking ute! For me I wouldn't buy any of the current on offer dual cabs and wait for 2025 as it looks like there will be some significant updates to the market. Would love to see the Tacoma make its way to Oz or at very least give the next gen Hilux some of the same styling.
@jacquesventer7776
@jacquesventer7776 4 місяці тому
I also have a 2022 Navara and I fell in love with the looks of it. Here in South Africa, the new Navaras come with an upgraded version of the old 2.5 liter single turbo diesel engine that was used in the older generation Navaras - we don't get the 2.3 twin turbo. But it also makes 140kw and 450nm. I don't why, but according to some of the guys at the dealership I spoke to, they are of the opinion that the older engine is perceived to be more reliable (don't know whether that is true or not), so the South African guys are more inclined to buy one. Their strategy seems to have worked, because the new D23 is selling a lot better than the previous D23 that we had with the twin turbo engine.
@ironhorse7601
@ironhorse7601 4 місяці тому
the 2.3L unit is Renault sourced .....say no more, Renault has had a detrimental impact to some of Nissan's products. Thankfully not the Patrol. 2,5L engine is a Nissan design and robust but ignore the stupid long oil change intervals or you will stretch your timing chain.
@bears2604
@bears2604 4 місяці тому
I have a 2016 np300 with 243km has done hot pipe that's it. It been great on fuel and this engine has had many high k reports of reliability from Europe. My cousin has a 2018 hilux and has nothing but problems with it. Go figure
@commentkreeper3892
@commentkreeper3892 4 місяці тому
Yeah its definitely luck of the draw I think. I had a 2008 Hilux back in the day and at around 110000ks it decided to spit all the bearings out of the balance shafts. After that it just had non stop problems. @@bears2604
@MothyEmms
@MothyEmms 4 місяці тому
Should do a higher end ute test next year. I.e. 79 vs ineos quartermaster vs jeep gladiator
@DarrenBoxhall
@DarrenBoxhall 4 місяці тому
79 isn't high end
@vanderz1012
@vanderz1012 4 місяці тому
Would love to see an SUV version test with the Grenadier and Wrangler included
@MothyEmms
@MothyEmms 4 місяці тому
@@DarrenBoxhall yea, but its a chance to show it's shortcomings compared to other solid axled utes on the market
@KorbensBum
@KorbensBum 4 місяці тому
I wouldnt call a jeep or 79 "high end"
@vanderz1012
@vanderz1012 4 місяці тому
@KorbensBum 79 isn't but Wrangler Rubicon is defs
@Hunty49
@Hunty49 4 місяці тому
I would like to see how the US developed cars would perform in Australia, such as the Chevy Colorado, Dodge Ram (1500 & 2500), Jeep Wrangler, Toyota Tacoma etc. How about a budget 4WD or "soft" version of the COTY? You could throw in a Jimny, Outlander, Forester, etc. Something mum can do the school run in but dad can get on the beach and fish with. See whether these "city boooys" are capable of casual use off the tarmac.
@nicksutcliffe-woelders8384
@nicksutcliffe-woelders8384 4 місяці тому
You should do a wagon of the year episode??? I just bought a new Everest, and I want to see it up against the prado and the Mux
@nissanhead-xj5nc
@nissanhead-xj5nc 4 місяці тому
Navara any day my 2019 nav has got over 200k and goes awesome and infotainment is easy to use
@heinrichkilian2851
@heinrichkilian2851 4 місяці тому
Agreed....Makes one wonder about the rubish 500 k km remark. @4wd247 if you tell yourself a lie enough you'll start believing it! Oath mate
@user-fi5iq5ws5i
@user-fi5iq5ws5i 4 місяці тому
As I suspected, GWM is the best off-roader. I did find some of the guys were trying hard to put it down. Overall it seems to be the car of the year. But yeah the only thing stopping it from being at the top is that we do not know if it will be reliable
@Hazardbone
@Hazardbone 4 місяці тому
It's underpowered and bottoms out on everything. If the other Ute's had a front locker the cannon wouldn't even get a mention
@mk1957
@mk1957 4 місяці тому
@@Hazardbonethe cost doesn’t compare, with the money saved you could chuck a lift kit in and gettuned
@user-fi5iq5ws5i
@user-fi5iq5ws5i 4 місяці тому
@@Hazardbone true but they don't which is why it is the best off-roader at around 50k.
@tzeshenlim
@tzeshenlim 4 місяці тому
@@user-fi5iq5ws5iit score 9 in off road and value for money plus another 9 on cheapest🤘
@63holden
@63holden 4 місяці тому
Loved Tommy's logic and explanations, as a long term purchase I went for the Dmax for the same reasons Tommy mentioned. Who is the Lorna Shore fan? 🤣
@didi-ne5uf
@didi-ne5uf 3 місяці тому
Thank you for this test“s. Great Job Guys. For me it was importent to see the differents between the Pick UP“s .I take an Amarok V6. The bad thing is that i Must wait 6 month. Maybee the Amarok comes in the middle of Jan.24
@brentj_
@brentj_ 4 місяці тому
Great video guys. Just like to point out that people very rarely will keep there car/ute/4wd for 500,000km these days. It's a bit outdated that saying.
@TheNyanCatReborn
@TheNyanCatReborn 4 місяці тому
Majority of people would only get to at most 200,000ks on a brand new Ute before upgrading
@2l8mate59
@2l8mate59 2 місяці тому
​@@TheNyanCatRebornI'm at 110k and already looking at upgrading...lol...😂
@Anachroschism
@Anachroschism 4 місяці тому
"Mum, can we get a Hilux?" "No, son, we already have a GWM at home!"
@eliblack1767
@eliblack1767 4 місяці тому
MUM ITS NOT THE SAME FEELING
@Liam-yt4xd
@Liam-yt4xd 4 місяці тому
Sick mate🤙
@TonyAlvestad
@TonyAlvestad 4 місяці тому
Watching this and loving it, even though we don't get any of these vehicles here in the states LOL
@spoonfed8750
@spoonfed8750 4 місяці тому
Good to see some unfamiliar utes in here, Nissan even gave one over this year! This years test seems a lot more thorough than previous years. Wicked work guys. Ps, why does Chris from TRED look like u9 Petes son? 😂
@gtlegend007
@gtlegend007 4 місяці тому
Ford Ranger is simply the best. Designed and engineered in Australia! It is the most Australian Ute on the market and supports local jobs!
@KorbensBum
@KorbensBum 4 місяці тому
Mine's a piece of crap. Typical Ford rubbish.
@DJTrumpMAGA
@DJTrumpMAGA 4 місяці тому
Mine was a piece of junk. Never buy a Ranger, ever.
@Anachroschism
@Anachroschism 4 місяці тому
I'm not locked into any brand, I just want what I feel is best for me at the time I'm buying it. I went from Hilux to Ranger, simply because the Ranger had a load more comfort, interior space, more power, and out of the showroom, it was far better than all the other utes I tried at the time, and I needed to do a lot of towing. However, the Hilux was a lot more reliable, and better at short distances, over the same amount of time, with very similar mods. So much so, I regret not keeping it as a second vehicle.
@nateclarke1179
@nateclarke1179 4 місяці тому
Getting the ford wildrak with the bi turbo instead of the v6 (which most people get) let the ranger down in a range of categories. It has the same engine as the one tested in the Amerok. For example they gave the Amerok an 8 for engine and a 6 for the bi turbo… the bi turbo 6 might be accurate, but nobody with any intentions of taking the ranger off road would be running the bi turbo model.
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