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Andreas Spiess

Andreas Spiess

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My Maker world changed last week when I started my first inline debugging tool for an Arduino sketch. Free of charge, nota bene. You do not know what I am talking about? Then you must watch at least the beginning of the video. If you know what I am talking about, I am sure; you also want to have it.
PlatformIO announced it will go open source because of an investment of Western Digital.
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 657
@santopino2546
@santopino2546 4 роки тому
Excellent, exactly the same editor and way of working through my C# code windows program in Studio 2017.
@jenskaa4044
@jenskaa4044 4 роки тому
This is one of the more expensive channels :-) Just made an order of 1 esp-prog. Not being able to do in-circuit debugging has always been a show stopper me doing more advanced programs on ESP and ATMEL micros.
@santopino2546
@santopino2546 4 роки тому
You can use Atmel Studio and ICE with Atmel micros. only real issue: I've bricked a few micros for the same silly reason. :( you need a high voltage programmer to unbrick them.
@santopino2546
@santopino2546 4 роки тому
​@@Chris-rg6nm could you give some details?
@jafinch78
@jafinch78 4 роки тому
Reminds me of the latest ESP32: www.crowdsupply.com/thomas-mckahan/obsidian-esp32
@jenskaa4044
@jenskaa4044 4 роки тому
Perhaps too quick, it seems that I could have used my Segger JLink, does anyone have some experience with that?
@LimbaZero
@LimbaZero 4 роки тому
I have my lovely AVR Dragon. Old but good also support atmel debugwire (ATTiny series) :) Also nice to have is msp launchpad (new version support usb 3.0 controllers) and stm discovery board
@Kaxlon
@Kaxlon 4 роки тому
Thank you Andreas & everyone who is involved in making this possible! Got my first ESP32 last week. I know I'm late but Arduino & ESP8266 & TI Launchpad was enough before. But now I'm hooked on the ESP32 drug! =) And there's sooo many boards to try! Thank you once again. =)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are welcome. I am sure you will like the ESP32
@segoetnico
@segoetnico 4 роки тому
Your videos and all the work you put in are so valuable to us Andreas! I save a ton of time with your shared experience. Thanks a lot.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are welcome!
@Aemilindore
@Aemilindore 4 роки тому
This is one of the best videos done Andreas. We really hope you could go into much more details about this topic in future. We learnt a lot from this video. Thanks a lot. Bless you.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
I think everybody has to use it and learn from now. I am not sure if I will dig much deeper here, at least not on video.
@Aemilindore
@Aemilindore 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Thats allright. You directed a lot of people in the right direction.
@albygnigni
@albygnigni 4 роки тому
Thanks Andreas! Nice to know that PIO debugger is become free! PS: 14-15 September there will be CERN Open Days and they are really worth a trip!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
I put it into my calendar. Maybe...
@XTronical
@XTronical 4 роки тому
Great video, yes, want one. Also you could use the "static" keyword to keep your local variable in its associated function without making it a global. It will then keep its value between calls.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thanks for the hint!
@bipolarchemist
@bipolarchemist 4 роки тому
Beat me to the thing I wanted to point out. I don't know why, but I have an aversion to global variables and much rather keep things with the associated function that is using them when possible.
@deangreenhough3479
@deangreenhough3479 4 роки тому
Great advice
@ddjazz
@ddjazz 4 роки тому
I used to be confused with something like : *static int var=0;* In the beginning of a function because I thought when the function runs again the var gets set back to *0* :)
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester 4 роки тому
Also "volatile" to make sure the compiler doesn't compile out variables that don't actually do anything (useful to count the number of times you've hit a function).
@tonybell1597
@tonybell1597 4 роки тому
Wow! Thanks Andreas, always wondered about this stuff, time to go shopping! (Big thanks to the platformIO team too.... )
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Enjoy!
@Magic-Smoke
@Magic-Smoke 4 роки тому
Possibly the most important video you've made so far. This will release thousands from the 'irons' of the current environment.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
I also liked to produce this one...
@HariWiguna
@HariWiguna 4 роки тому
OMG Andreas! This is HUGE! I've tried doing this before with a different debugger with limited success. Thank you for sharing your success path! Ten thumbs ups!!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you. I think, many of us like the news...
@richard_wenner
@richard_wenner 4 роки тому
Ah the 'bleeding edge' and despite the warnings I know I'm going to fall down the same holes as you. Concise and inspiring as ever, thanks Andreas.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Now you were #1 ;-) This is not a hole, this is a highlight in my opinion!
@deangreenhough3479
@deangreenhough3479 4 роки тому
Hello Richard😁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 looking forward to your next video 👍
@richard_wenner
@richard_wenner 4 роки тому
@@deangreenhough3479 Thanks Dean but you should not mention my pathetic offerings on our God's channel! :)
@Premjit25
@Premjit25 2 роки тому
Unbelievably cool and informative video man! Well done! Exactly what I have been looking for, for years! Just in time. Love your clear, direct, and still detailed style! Long lives your channel and you!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
Glad it helped! And thank you for your nice words.
@Premjit25
@Premjit25 2 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess helped?? Are you kidding me! Already ordered the ESP prog gears for debugging! Hats off! You rock! I am going to try it with Visual Studio + visual micro combination, as I am not too certain about platform io. Have it a try few years ago, and ended up in lots of grief and frustration. Is it much better now? Also, can it be added straight on visual studio together with visual micro, asking cause I can see you are using visual studio. Cheers
@Premjit25
@Premjit25 2 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess you are natural, wise and very knowledgeable yet down to earth simple in approach, detailed and hard core, yet no fluff, straight to the point! Very rare combination. Well done man, I mean it. 👍👍
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
Many of my viewers use plaformio and are happy with it. I use VisualMicro because it is more Ardhuino IDE compatible and my "Channel IDE" remains the Arduino IDE.
@rklauco
@rklauco 4 роки тому
My life just changed significantly. Thanks!!!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Glad to read that!
@moukafaslouka4796
@moukafaslouka4796 4 роки тому
I will second that. I just got some code debugged and it felt great. People in the education business will have plenty of reasons now to use the ESP32 and have their students' stuff debugged at the source level.
@AgozieAni
@AgozieAni 4 роки тому
I always your videos to the very end.... my whole family loves the "BYE" at the end.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you. And greetings to your family!
@fuzzie4755
@fuzzie4755 4 роки тому
Absolutely awesome and already placed the order at Aliexpress. Until now I was excepting that debugging these microcontollers is just out range and will never work. Will stay on Patreon, because these are the videos with really big value.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you for your support! I really liked to create this video, because I always wanted this feature...
@jvgorkum
@jvgorkum 4 роки тому
Big thank you! -- this is will take me from the Arduino side over to PlatformIO
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Same here ;-)
@rljzathras
@rljzathras 4 роки тому
Indeed, just added PIO to my VSCode and I must say I like the compile feedback far more than the dark side of the moon affair with the Arduino builds :-)
@PeterMensink01
@PeterMensink01 4 роки тому
Thanks Andreas, already got the board a few week ago, finally got some time to install and test. Just got the the debugger running.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Good! I am glad it works.
@chrissold5957
@chrissold5957 7 місяців тому
Always finding new interesting videos on your channel - a "swiss mountain" of information it is
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 7 місяців тому
Glad you like the channel!
@BerndFelsche
@BerndFelsche 4 роки тому
Thanks for making this video. It's so hard to explain how easy debugging can be.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Showing how it works was the only way I found...
@graemeatkinson1086
@graemeatkinson1086 3 роки тому
Thanks so much for this Andreas! Saved me a heap of time getting up and running with this little debug module. Such great content!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad it helped! PlatformIO is really a good tool.
@bernard2735
@bernard2735 4 роки тому
Thanks mate. This is the one thing that has really held me back - not just useful for debugging, but also a great way to learn and experiment. I hope you're getting a commission - I just bought one.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
And I Hope you get one. The supplier is maybe overwhelmed!
@RaphaelBrandaoS
@RaphaelBrandaoS 4 роки тому
Andreas, as an influencer, the more you promote useful tools like this one, more available and cheap they will become. Thank you so much for this, and keep trying new stuff! Also I am waiting for your video on unit testing for Arduino and ESP.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
I have no plans for the unit testing so far. But you never know...
@roukie78
@roukie78 3 роки тому
A great feature to have especially for the price you pay for the ESP-PROG. Andreas many thanks for this great video. It makes life so much easier to learn this way. Keep up the good work.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad it was helpful!
@joba1560
@joba1560 4 роки тому
Inline debugging and preliminary ULP support for ESP32 in pio: like xmas and easter at the same time! Thanks platformio for making that possible and thanks Andreas for paving the way!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are welcome!
@joba1560
@joba1560 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess it works on my linux box! Coool! :)
@warperone
@warperone 4 роки тому
been waiting for this for a while - thanks for doing such a great video and making life easier for ALL makers
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
I hope so...
@Derek_Read
@Derek_Read 4 роки тому
Wow, this is a game changer for sure. I hope I can get some time to try this out. I've been hesitating about working with the ESP32 (as I have a bunch of other Arduinos and compatibles already) but if I can get this working there's no excuse now. I would really love to see you come back to this from time to time with updates as you continue to work with this system and figure other things out, and perhaps as PIO addresses any issues you've run into.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
We will see. I have many topics to cover, so usually I only come back for substantial changes
@Derek_Read
@Derek_Read 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Yes. I would , think you would only want revisit this if you find something really significantly interesting (as you have done with a few other videos) but of course that also assumes you continue with it yourself. Looking at the comments there seems to be a lot of people very interested in this, so I guess you'd want to consider that as well. I really hope I have time for this myself soon. The library of information you are building on this channel is really amazing.
@trent8663
@trent8663 4 роки тому
You demystified JTAG debugging for me, so much so FedEx dropped off my Olimex ARM-USB-TINY-H yesterday. Following this video I was running and debugging in less than an hour. Great video as always!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Good to know the that the video was useful for you.
@YvesMasur
@YvesMasur 4 роки тому
Many thanks for this complete description!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
:-)
@hstrinzel
@hstrinzel 24 дні тому
Incredible level of debugging control! And it did not cost much at all. THANK YOU! Rekindled my interest in working with ESP32. Fabulous video! :)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 24 дні тому
Indeed, a very useful feature!
@deangreenhough3479
@deangreenhough3479 4 роки тому
Great subject and the ESP Debugger is already on order😁 sweet✅ Thank you Andreas on this very important subject. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 I hope to see another video delving deeper and it’s applications 😁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
I am not sure if deeper will be mainstream ;-) But I am sure you will be able to dig as deep as you want if you have it running...
@tjwatts100
@tjwatts100 2 роки тому
Super video. Thank you so much. You really helped me get up to speed with ESP32. I just bought the ESP PROG and it works really nicely. 👍👍👍
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
Glad it helped
@weithiamneo1442
@weithiamneo1442 4 роки тому
I was able to do inline debugging for ESP32 about 1 year ago but only using Espressif WROVER kit and ESP-IDF framework. But your Arduino framework is SO much easier.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
I used PIO also for the WROVER. It worked, too
@josvdsnepscheut2832
@josvdsnepscheut2832 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Hello Andreas, when using the WROVER kit do I (still) need to use the ESP-prog device? thanks.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
If you use the (50$) kit, JTAG is built-in. You just have to add all the jumpers on the JTAG pins (according to the description)
@andrewshirley3260
@andrewshirley3260 3 роки тому
Thanks for the video - I ordered one and can't wait to start using the debugger. Nice work ;)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Hope you enjoy it!
@joachimbaumann731
@joachimbaumann731 4 роки тому
Dear Andreas, thanks for another very nice video on a Sunday morning. Another alternative for a JTAG adapter is named „Mini USB Blaster“ (a white and blue enclosure) for around 2-3€ on AliExpress. I‘ve used it for quite some time together with Eclipse, but it should work with PIO as well.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Maybe you try it with this setup? It would be beneficial for my viewers if they can buy an even cheaper adapter.
@joachimbaumann731
@joachimbaumann731 4 роки тому
I gave it a short try, but there does not seem to be a config option for the Altera USB Blaster (yet). My few experiments didn‘t yield any usable results...
@joachimbaumann731
@joachimbaumann731 4 роки тому
Since I‘ll be away from my playthings for 1-3 months (work-related) I cannot follow up on this in the next weeks. I have put it on my list, though, for later experimentation
@joachimbaumann731
@joachimbaumann731 3 роки тому
It took way longer than expected, but there is now a better description of how to use the Altera USB Blaster and its problems. So actually I would not suggest to buy it. Here is the link: www.esp32.com/viewtopic.php?t=9901
@MaxintRD
@MaxintRD 4 роки тому
Hi Andreas, great video! Good to see this in action. Thank you for your time and effort!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are welcome!
@sevenacregreen
@sevenacregreen 4 роки тому
Great video. Thanks. Another purchase is on it's way. One thing to watch is that the more highly integrated esp32 boards often use the jtag pins for their other functions, so it may be necessary to debug libraries on another board before including in final target. I use Ttgo T4 for some quick project as it has a lot of functions but has assigned all jtag pinsvto other functions. Perhaps future designs will leave jtag free if it becomes more popular.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are right. Maybe suppliers will include a jtag connector after this video ;-)
@asiw
@asiw 4 роки тому
Wow, wow, wow it's quite incredible how how you can keep coming up with so useful and instructive videos. I was wondering what you have for breakfast because I could do with some of that brilliance.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
I particularly liked the making of this video because it fulfilled a longtime wish of me...
@DDBerlin
@DDBerlin 3 роки тому
YES! Andreas, You're absolutely right : this will be a true life changer for me as well. I'm used to work with debuggers in the programming languages I use on a dayly basis and and always found it more than tedious to do my arduino programming without. Especially as I am not as safe and sound in C++ as I am inmy other languages. -When it comes to referencing and dereferencing of pointers I sometimes have to enter the area of guesswork or trial and error. - Optimizing code by testing different variants and approaches is very time consuming.When it comes to debuging. - Debugging data types via the serial monitor is not always working as expected, as it does its own conversions or requires manual conversion prior display, which sometimes covers up the problem. - Stupid errors like expecting a float value froma division of two integers without conversion - .... I actually knew about the inline debugging capabilites of platformio, but at the time I read about it, it was available in the commerical version only and was no option for the projects I did at that time. So I did not pay attention, when You made this video back then. Just when I accidentally heard about the esp-prog a few days ago, I looked into it again and remembered that You had done a video on that subject. Now I find it hard to wait until I get the debugger. I've not directly found a source that delivers from within Germany. So it seems, I'll have to get it from China and be patient. Despite the fact, that on an esp8266 only a few usable pins remain,I still think,it will be a huge support even for these boards. Especially,when it is about conceptual / structural debugging. Excelent, as always! Thanks and regards Frank
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I hope the "ship" from China is fast ;-)
@DDBerlin
@DDBerlin 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess it seems, they are using a rowboad :-) ... I've waited so long, I'll get through this as well.
@weerobot
@weerobot 4 роки тому
Interesting... got love all the Arduino developments...
@TheEmbeddedHobbyist
@TheEmbeddedHobbyist 4 роки тому
Great video. Inline debugging is the biggest thing I miss, with arduino and esp chips. Spending hrs trying to find a simple bug which would have taken minutes with a debugger. Why I liked using pic's. Watch out ESP32 here I come, well I will be after the Ali Express 1 month wait.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Hopefully it arrives faster ;-)
@Herebuss
@Herebuss 4 роки тому
Good job. You are on top of this stuff!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you!
@alvarocoronado5842
@alvarocoronado5842 4 роки тому
I'd subscribe to your channel twice if I could! Your content is very interesting, entertaining and useful to me. You are an awesome and inspiring man Andreas. Love and hugs from Chile to the guy with the Swiss accent :)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you for your nice words!
@BBBA_
@BBBA_ Рік тому
This is over my head. I was studying electronic assembly 38 years ago.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess Рік тому
The same here before I learned it ;-) My age is 65.
@waltsteinchen
@waltsteinchen 4 роки тому
Great video Andreas! ... This remember's me to my first job (long long ago) where we created a (expensive) hardware for JTAG debugging support for the pentium processor. The main focus was to enable conditional breakpoints (as you showed) very fast. You always have to stop the processor put in some serial bitstream into the pins to get the needed values out ... on a pentium this was ~1KBit ... For that we created a special ASIC (25 years ago!) to achieve this very fast. My job was the software ... I miss these days ;-)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
And now we have it inside our 5$ chips ;-)
@waltsteinchen
@waltsteinchen 4 роки тому
Btw. If somebody is interested how JTAG debugging works: The processor get's stopped .. all important registers of the CPU get copied into 'shadow' registers and this shadow registers can be 'clocked' out serial using a special protocol through the connected lines. Also memory can be read and written that way. Sometimes CPUs have special debug registers that can be adressed also ... btw. many chips support a JTAG interface .... the cool thing is that you can chain them together if you have a larger circuit, but then it get's a real serial mess ;-)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thanks for the details. Dave J. did one a video where he also mentioned the "serialization". But it was less for processors and more for "boundary checks" of ordinary HW. For processors, I would assume you would spend the money for a second adapter to reduce the complexity of the software.
@robertjirk3196
@robertjirk3196 3 роки тому
Bravissimo!!! From the guy with the austrian accent...... I have still one incuircit emulater from Keil, but for the 8031. Regards and THANKS
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Time to change ;-)
@JensChrBrynildsen
@JensChrBrynildsen Рік тому
Thanks for all the great video's Andreas!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess Рік тому
Thank you for your support!
@moukafaslouka4796
@moukafaslouka4796 4 роки тому
Thanks a million! You just changed the way I deal with the ESP32 once and for all. I followed your tutorial and I can assure everybody that it works perfectly! Do not forget to replace the drivers using the Zadig driver installer. I did and it did not work. I had to go and watch the video a second time and it worked once I replaced the drivers. Interestingly enough, the code always goes to the FreeRTOS when debugging at the source code level. It makes it even more obvious that FreeRTOS is an integral part of the ESP32 Arduino libraries. Debugging will lead you there no matter what. I simply stepped out of the FreeRTOS stuff because I was more interested in my code than any RTOS kernel stuff. On a different note: Who are the morons who disliked this video? Do they even know what they were looking at when they watched your video?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you for sharing your experience! I always get a fer buttons down. Some of them quite fast. They are maybe even subscribers for that reason...
@moukafaslouka4796
@moukafaslouka4796 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess You know what? To hell with these idiots. It's because of UKpostsrs like you that knowledge is spreading quickly. Thanks a million and please continue to make and share more videos. You have a loyal subscriber to your channel now.
@FindLiberty
@FindLiberty 4 роки тому
Nice! I know EXACTLY what you mean when you say, "...and I know what I'm talking about", (Lol, Good job explaining those traps for new players!) Thank you.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are welcome!
@phildonaldson5770
@phildonaldson5770 3 роки тому
Another super video - thanks for making!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
My pleasure!
@customdevelopment136
@customdevelopment136 2 роки тому
Thank you for the video. Makers owe you a lot!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
You are welcome!
@KlemenZhivko
@KlemenZhivko 4 роки тому
Great ! I was waiting for this. You are too. Keep it good job Andreas.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thanks, will do!
@MikesTropicalTech
@MikesTropicalTech 3 роки тому
Hey, I used an "Intel Blue Box" just like that one in my first job at age 17, writing PL/M code on our custom 8085 audio spectrum analyzer board. The debugger hardware was two large Intel circuit boards that would just get flaky after a while - we would pull the boards, rub the back with aluminum foil, stick them back in and keep working. Now we're both here 40 years later playing with ESP32 hardware debuggers!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I also started with this rack in the 1970s...
@RelentlessHomesteading
@RelentlessHomesteading 4 роки тому
LOL - I was building systems back in 70s to 90s - I remember using those Intel MDS-80 development stations with the 8 inch floppies. Recently been looking to get back in for some hobby projects. Funny part is in the videos I saw there seemed to be no In-line debugger or emulator; I was very Puzzled,... CERTAINLY NO ONE WOULD BE DEVELOPING CODE WITHOUT ONE!! LOL - Thankyou for the video - definitely adding this to the list !!!!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Same as me. Now we do no more need emulators. We use the chip itself.
@edwardcdg
@edwardcdg 3 роки тому
Essential information. Many thanks!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are welcome!
@WacKEDmaN
@WacKEDmaN 4 роки тому
i was gonna say a JTAG adapter is too expensive just for a bit of debugging...but that ESP-Prog is just the right price!..Thanks Andreas :) nice to hear Neil Armstrong quoted correctly too!..
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
For me, the JTAG adapter is an investment, not an expense. I expect quite some return of it...
@WacKEDmaN
@WacKEDmaN 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess we dont all do this for a living tho..nothing i make is made commercial..and im not making money from youtube vids!...for the price of the "full blown" JTAG id rather eat for 2 weeks! :P
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
I stopped to optimize only money. At my age, "Life quality" has to be optimized. And eating a little less would also enhance my "life quality" if you know what I mean ;-)
@JacMika
@JacMika 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess JTAG can be more expensive as it has a lot of not well-known features. Please have a look at EEVblog #499 what JTAG is capable of.
@DocMicha
@DocMicha 4 роки тому
Thank You for the work! I have got also the Email, and had no time to test. Now you have done the work, which helps very much!
@NicolasP1973
@NicolasP1973 4 роки тому
Thank's Andreas, Once again you make my day! (not for my wallet) You've got great content! Time to order one and the data analyser too :)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are welcome!
@anthonyanth8368
@anthonyanth8368 2 роки тому
Greetings from your favourite fan in Zimbabwe
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
Greetings back from Switzerland
@josephgray4618
@josephgray4618 4 роки тому
I just started to use PlatformIO with VScode (Arduino Platform). A bit of a learning curve, but I love it. On to my comment about debugging. I already had a J-Link, so I hooked it up to an ESP32_Devkitc_V4 that I just bought. I had to use Zadig to install the WinUSB driver, just as you did for the FTDI debugger. Then I set "debug_tool = jlink". PlatformIO recognized the J-Link, but when running the debugger, I got an error, and the debugger stopped. A Google search told me that I needed to hook up pin 1 (VT) on the J-Link to 3.3 V on the ESP32. Now it works well. Thanks for the excellent (as always) video.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
RTFM helps sometimes ;-)
@MauroSedrani
@MauroSedrani 4 роки тому
Bravo, as usual!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you!
@vincentgreff508
@vincentgreff508 4 роки тому
Great video :) It would be awesome, if you did a video on using the second serial port on the esp-prog. For the newbee like me, it would be worth mentioning (in addition) to just connect one usb cable to programmer (es-prog in my case) and that the programming happens thru the jtag. I learn that the hard way.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Sorry for forgetting to mention that fact!
@shaivalnagarsheth3257
@shaivalnagarsheth3257 2 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Please also show how to use Serial port with ESP-PROG. That would really save connecting both (esp32 as well as esp-prog) to the power supply. Atleast you say the setting in the platform.ini file for the serial via esp-prog. please
@andrewhughes8687
@andrewhughes8687 4 роки тому
This is fabulous. It makes the esp32 a “professional” processor, at a ridiculous price. What a find. Thank you Andreas. I was a bit confused by your use of “step over” though. I have always thought that meant skip the next line of code, and step into was to execute the next line of code. Is this debugger unable to skip a line of code? I am quite impressed with your entire library of videos available and grateful to you for them.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Step-over means here that you do not step in... I do not find a button to skip a line. Would also not be very important for me.
@andrewhughes8687
@andrewhughes8687 4 роки тому
Thank you
@das250250
@das250250 4 роки тому
Great work Andreas!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you!
@avejst
@avejst 4 роки тому
Impressive totorial as ever Thanks for sharing :-)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are welcome!
@DamienWise
@DamienWise 4 роки тому
This is a game-changer!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
I think so, too.
@Nathaniel_Belles
@Nathaniel_Belles 4 роки тому
Hey Andres, the Arduino Micro runs on the Atmega32u4 chip which has a built in JTAG Debugger. The JTAG pin out can be found in the 32u4 data sheet.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you for your information!
@rakithadealwis8468
@rakithadealwis8468 3 роки тому
Great video. Thank you Andreas
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad you liked it!
@nrdesign1991
@nrdesign1991 4 роки тому
IIRC the Atmega32 has JTAG too, which messes with some pins in factory-new controllers. I remember having to disable it via the fuse-bits before programming. It is an old chip, probably as old as the Atmega8.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
As mentioned, the new bunch of Arduinos also uses processors which should support JTAG. We will see... The new Nanos are ordered...
@nrdesign1991
@nrdesign1991 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Looking forward to it. The Atmega32 is quite different from the Atmega328 used on the Nanos.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
The new Nanos use a ATMega4809 chip...
@pow9606
@pow9606 8 місяців тому
For your information you could of declared "localVariable" as static like :- static int localVariable = 0; With the static keyword the variable will not be destroyed when out of scope (exiting the loop routine) It will retain its value the next time loop is called unlike your dynamic variable that gets created each time you call loop. The "= 0" (assignment of zero) only gets called once during creation. The reason why this may be a better choice is because no other routine can see or more importantly change the contents of "localVariable" Which may be a better choice that making "localVariable" accessible to everyone (all routines) in some cases. Depends whether you want other routines to see the variable. Welcome to the world of debugging. 😃
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 8 місяців тому
I agree. But my choice was better for my video ;-) Plus, I am unsure why I would prefer static variables over global ones.
@joachimkeinert3202
@joachimkeinert3202 3 роки тому
Klasse und Grüezi in die Schweiz!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Danke!
@NextLevelCode
@NextLevelCode 3 роки тому
Excellent video. Glad I found it. Even if I was late to the party.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
It is never too late to start with inline debugging ;-)
@NextLevelCode
@NextLevelCode 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess got my debugger coming from Banggood. Thanks again :)
@marioroberts9564
@marioroberts9564 4 роки тому
Thank you 👊🏽
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are welcome!
@connecticutaggie
@connecticutaggie 4 роки тому
This sure would have helped last summer with debugging the tank communications problems. That brings up another situation where serial debugging does not work well Debugging a crash. The serial writes are cached; so, the messages go out after a delay - and sometimes not at all when a crash occurs. This can mislead you regarding where the code is crashing.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
The Espressif IDE has a possibility to invoke the debugger after a crash to find out the last steps before. Maybe this is also available in PIO/Arduino framework. I do not know.
@gaborungvari784
@gaborungvari784 4 роки тому
wow! very useful video, again! thanks!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are welcome!
@whz2644
@whz2644 4 роки тому
Thank you Andreas. A real breakthrough in ESP32 programming. Debugging was the thing we were waiting for.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are welcome!
@user-vn7ce5ig1z
@user-vn7ce5ig1z 4 роки тому
1:58 - Also, using the serial port to debug doesn't work at all if the serial port is used by the sketch for something else.
@thisusernameismine10
@thisusernameismine10 4 роки тому
Also, using the serial port, even just invoking it and not using it, consumes more electrical power. Important if you are zoned into low power devices.
@moukafaslouka4796
@moukafaslouka4796 4 роки тому
I didn't see this issue you are referencing. Everything worked fine for me the first time around. The only annoying thing I dealt with was having to step through some FreeRTOS code. Other than that, it was an absolute delight to step through my code any way I wanted. The assembled code was also listed and you can debug through it if that's your thing.
@starlingwatch3921
@starlingwatch3921 2 роки тому
Greutzi Andreas, thank you for this video, most helpful. I liked and subscribed. I'm glad you were excited by your first debugger - as excited as the Moon landing! One small nit about your video, Astronaut Neil Armstrong was so excited he forgot to say "a man" and instead said "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." :-) I just received my ESP-prog board. Can't wait for the missing 'a' in learning how to use it! -Frank
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
Thank you for the addition. So I was a little less excited and added the "a" ,-)
@starlingwatch3921
@starlingwatch3921 2 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess I followed your videos' instructions to get the ESP Dev board wired to an esp32 wroom board. It was about 1:00 a.m. when realized the second USB micro cable I have is one of those stupid stupid power only cables. I threw my head back and yelled up to the USB cable God.... 'no!' hehehe. The USB cable shop opens here in about 2 hours. Jtag debugging shall be mine today! 😃
@PeterLange-zf1qr
@PeterLange-zf1qr Рік тому
Hi Andras, had some problems with ESP-Prog at the beginning. Now it works fine, upload and debug. Only the serial monitor is not working, because on missing / unknown device. as not able to solve that.. But i can debug, it's better than serial outputs. Thanks a lot for your video. Peter
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess Рік тому
I am sure you will be able to solve the last problem, too!
@PeterLange-zf1qr
@PeterLange-zf1qr Рік тому
@@AndreasSpiess yes, I have I have to disconnect the USB Hardware from Rx an Tx. Then I can use Rx and Tx together with ESP-Prog. There are 2 0 Ohm resistors on the module to make that happen. On my own hardware later on I can remove the USB stuff, not required. Thanks again.
@nailsonlandim
@nailsonlandim 4 роки тому
Andreas, first thaks for everything! I got a Segger J-link, it's what i could get here in Brazil in a fast pace, and it helped me a lot. I got it working better in Linux than Windows. on Windows sometimes the debugger didn`t work at all. openOCD couldn`t find it. So i`m working on Ubuntu and it runs fine, and by the way, compilation seems faster =)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you for sharing your experience. Linux still is the platform of choice for many projects.
@adc3727
@adc3727 8 місяців тому
I use esp prog debbuger with my esp32 Devkit V1 since 2 years. It works very well so thank you Andreas for your help. But with my new esp32-s3 Devkit it does not work... Andreas, which debugger you use for the esp32-s3? Best regards
@adc3727
@adc3727 8 місяців тому
it's working now! with a usb cable .
@adrianhutchin247it4
@adrianhutchin247it4 3 роки тому
Great video as always. Do you power both the ESP32 & ESP Prog with a USB cable? Do you also connect the VCC / Ground from the JTAG connection?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
II do not remember each detail :-(
@rjinnh3933
@rjinnh3933 4 роки тому
Very valuable info. Now to order the Expresive JTAG board. But because of the CoronoVirus restictions (03.31.20), it may be summer time before I can play with these new toys! AARG..... Thanks Andreas for this great info and explanation. You do great work........
@hanpahomeautomation4101
@hanpahomeautomation4101 4 роки тому
Although I'm familiar with inline debugging from other platforms, it's rather complicated to use for ESP32 until the board manufacturers will use a standardised connector. My standard way of debugging, 99% ESP8266, is to use MQTT. In this way I can both "print" messages and also input data if I want to. I can do similar things as conditional breakpoints or logging, or conditional input controlled by MQTT. My first upload with a new project is always a simple standard sketch that replaces serial load with OTA over Wifi and has some standard topics for debug and reporting when a devices boots or restarts. In this way it is really fast to make changes to the code for debugging purposes. I never use the serial terminal since I'm used to making continuous improvements to my sketches with the devices long away from my computer. OTA and MQTT makes it possible to make changes and corrections without having the device connected physically. "JTAG" over Wifi supported by the chipset itself would however be very useful, with even having to use a JTAG physical connector...
@bollie9752
@bollie9752 4 роки тому
hanpa Home Automation Do you have a github repo on this or links to an article?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Interesting idea...
@hanpahomeautomation4101
@hanpahomeautomation4101 4 роки тому
​@@bollie9752 No. It's basically just having a debug topic for outgoing messages instead of Serial.print and then listening to this topic in a shell or by logging to a file. If you want to change the program flow in some way you can have incoming debug topics for values or triggers. A trigger can just set a variable or a simple if statement in the code can do something that affects the program flow e.g. by assigning some variables, skipping a section of the code or whatever. I only do this when something is not working as intended but I also have a standard topic for all my clients and a listener on my server that logs this to a text file. I use this to check when a device has rebooted and to which IP/mac-address, the RSSI dB value, name and version of the sketch etc. Like this (one row in the log file): 19-06-23 11:43: NeoPixelAlertIndicator1 BOOT 192.168.0.154 60:01:94:39:72:85 RSSI(dBm):-54 NeoPixelAlertIndicator 1.4 2018-08-25 Hans Palm
@ReneKnuvers74rk
@ReneKnuvers74rk 3 роки тому
Today I got my esp-prog board to work on my mac with help of this video (which inspired me to buy the esp-prog in the first place). I now am able to both program (upload), monitor and debug the ESP32 (I tried the SBC-NODEMCU-ESP32 from JOY-IT) over a single USB connection. I did run into some small problems. My advice is to install the official FTDI VCP driver for the MAC OS you are running (I'm at a beta of 10.15.5 currently). Then LEAVE THE PORT SETTING FOR THE DEBUG PORT EMPTY, but use the 'xxx01' port for the upload and the monitor port. Still I don't like the VS Code environtment that much. Maybe after some time I will learn to appreciate it. But even if I don't like it for programming, I still can use it to debug the ESP32 projects now. Next on my list is to create a jig to easily cable up the NodeMCU to the ESP-prog. I'm thinking about designing a PCB with feed-through header pins or so.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I have a few development boards laying around which I use to start every project. Only after the code is already working I change to the target. You could add such a Jig to such development boards...
@PeterDempsey-yarglags
@PeterDempsey-yarglags 4 роки тому
Thanks Andreas, that was very interesting and informative. I'm very interested in the possibility of using JTAG to test circuits. Is this something you could do a video on or do you have any recommendations about where to start?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
So far I only know it can be used for microcontrollers.
@PeterDempsey-yarglags
@PeterDempsey-yarglags 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Thanks Andreas, I guess I'll have to do my own homework. 😉
@jlrtrevenga
@jlrtrevenga 4 роки тому
Hi Andreas, thanks for your videos, they are really helpfull. And now we are confined we also have more time to play. One question: Did you check it also for the ESP-IDF platform & PlatformIo? I´ll give a try. Thanks again!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
I stick with the Arduino IDE because most of my viewers use it.
@lhxperimental
@lhxperimental 4 роки тому
AVRs have something called "Debug Wire". I have used it with Atmel Studio about 10 years ago.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Yes, but AFAIK it was never integrated into Arduino
@electronic7979
@electronic7979 4 роки тому
Super 👍
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you!
@robatoto
@robatoto 4 роки тому
Instead of the Espressif or Olimex adapter, I've successfully used FT232H boards (CJMCU FT232H). They are about USD 7.00 on Aliexpress. The pin mapping is: TDI -> AD1; TDO -> AD2; TCK -> AD0; TMS -> AD3. I've used a Mac with OpenOCD however and don't know if it works with Zadig.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Maybe you try it in this config? It would be beneficial if we get an even cheaper adapter. The problem I see is not Zadig, it is to choose the right definition file in platformIO.ini (and if one is available)
@robatoto
@robatoto 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess It turns out that FT2232HL (such as the CJMCU FT2232HL) boards are even better. They are a drop-in replacement for ESP-PROG board. With exactly the same configuration in PlatformIO, on Windows (Zadig) and MacOS (sudo kextunload -b com.FTDI.driver.FTDIUSBSerialDriver) it just work. That's no surprise as the ESP-PROG board is in fact at FT2232HL board. And it uses OpenOCD in the background. The CJMCU FT2232HL is about USD 9 on Ebay and Aliexpress. The slightly cheaper CJMCU FT232H board (USD 7) can also be used. But it requires some fiddling in the OpenOCD configuration files as the USB product ID is 0x6014 (as opposed to 0x6010); otherwise the device is not found.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you for your info! Could you give us a little more info on which file to change, where to find the product ID etc.? There are quite a few cheap FTDI boards on Aliexpress and with your help, we maybe could make them run...
@robatoto
@robatoto 4 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess The details can be found in these instructions: medium.com/@manuel.bl/low-cost-esp32-in-circuit-debugging-dbbee39e508b
@josvdsnepscheut2832
@josvdsnepscheut2832 4 роки тому
How about the drivers for Linux? Could you please help me with this.
@k7michal
@k7michal 2 роки тому
thank you!
@aronhighgrove4100
@aronhighgrove4100 4 роки тому
Great and very useful video! Thank you. A tiny comment: I would not call it old technology, it exists since long, but old makes it sound like it's obsolete or legacy (and then it is "old" no matter its age). But otherwise, I would call it old when it's maybe 100 years or so ago. I know, in IT everything is old that is from last year, but I find the use of the word a bit inflationary haha ;)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are right. But many things like fire are old but still useful...
@jhermosilla5872
@jhermosilla5872 3 роки тому
Hello Andreas! THanks for your videos! I learned a lot. Especially on RF systems. Can we use any JTAG to USB converter available on aliexpress? Maybe the cheap one?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I would only use one described on platformIO.
@DO7DH
@DO7DH 4 роки тому
Great video!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you!
@gavinsmalley1513
@gavinsmalley1513 4 роки тому
Maybe a silly question, but why move localVariable to make it global? You can keep it local but just define it as "static int localVariable;". This preserves it as a local variable bit prevents the redeclation and this prevents it being reset.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are right.
@tjwatts100
@tjwatts100 2 роки тому
And you can even initialise it, which will happen once, when the program is started: static int i=0;
@rc3d490
@rc3d490 4 роки тому
Wow, really thanks.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
You are welcome!
@lindnerlars81
@lindnerlars81 3 роки тому
Andreas, mach bitte weiter so, deine Videos sind einfach nur lehrreich, super und einfach erklärt. Denkst, man kann auch den J-Link EDU Mini als Debugger mit PlatformIO verwenden? Viele Grüße von nem Deutschen aus Mexiko :)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Alle kompatiblen debugger sind auf deren Webseite beschrieben
@lindnerlars81
@lindnerlars81 3 роки тому
Hi Andres, ich habe mir vor einiger Zeit diesen USB JTAG Emulator for AVR Microcontrollers (www.openimpulse.com/blog/products-page/product-category/usb-jtag-emulator-avr-microcontrollers/#:~:text=AVR%20JTAG%20emulator%20is%20mainly,and%20software%20breakpoints%20and%20more.&text=AVR%20JTAG%20is%20a%20complete,interfaces%20with%20ATMEL's%20AVR%20Studio.) gekauft. Weiss aber bis heute nicht, wie genau der funktioniert. Hast du einen Tip? Vielleicht sollte ich mir doch lieber etwas professionelleres kaufen.... Danke, Lars
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Ich verstehe zu wenig davon., Deshalb halte ich mich an die Debugger, die von PIO unterstützt werden. Sind ja auch nicht viel teurer.
@lindnerlars81
@lindnerlars81 3 роки тому
Du hast vollkommen Recht Andreas. Danke und mach weiter so :)
@robatoto
@robatoto 4 роки тому
If you have the JTAG adapter connected, you can upload the program via the debugger, at 20 MBit/s. Just add “upload_protocol = esp-prog” to platform.ini. You can then disconnect the USB cable to the dev board and replace it with 3.3V supply from the adapter to the dev board.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
So far I thought you need the second channel to do that and you have to connect this channel also to the chip. I did not know it runs on the JTAG wires.
@tom0brody
@tom0brody 4 роки тому
Hi Andreas, based on your video I bought a ESP-Prog and was able to use it with an ESP32DEVKIT V1 right from the beginning. My current preferred board is he TTGO T-Beam but I was not able to figure out the right pint to connect to the ESP-Prog. You have also made some tests with the T-Beam. Were you able to connect it the ESP-Prog in the right fashion? For an advice how to connect the pins I would be very happy. ThX Tom
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Maybe you find additional info in this blog: medium.com/@manuel.bl/low-cost-esp32-in-circuit-debugging-dbbee39e508b
@RandomHacks
@RandomHacks 4 роки тому
Oh wow that's interesting!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
Thank you!
@lmamakos
@lmamakos 4 роки тому
Very nice video, I must try to hold myself back from buying yet another debugging interface :-) I'm wondering during your debugging, what's feeding the watchdog? I wonder if the GDB debugging session reaches into the CPU and disables the watchdog timer when the CPU is halted? I wonder if the other CPU core is still running? So many question to pique my interest.. Thanks for the video; I suppose now in retrospect since you pointed it out, it seems obvious that the Expressif CPUs would have some debugging interface; just hadn't considered it. Glad that you did!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому
I never looked at the internals. So I do not know. I did not see a watchdog appearing ;-)
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