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Andreas Spiess

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Recently, Arduino released four new products. They all look very similar but use completely different Microcontroller chips. So we have to answer two questions: Do they know what they are doing and is it any good for us Makers? And of course: How do they compare with the ESP32?
In this video, we will look at these four boards:
- Arduino Nano Every
- Arduino Nano 33 IoT
- Arduino Nano 33 BLE
- Arduino Nano 33 BLE Sense
And look into the following topics:
- An overview of their capabilities. We will also add a typical ESP32 board for reference
- We will have a look into how the Arduino IDE supports a multi-CPU Architecture environment
- We will look at the new 3.3-volt world and the dangers coming from this change
- Will find out bad things about the boards if they exist
- We will test the BLE and Wi-Fi functions and measure power consumption
- And we will try to answer the essential questions: What are the implications for the future of the Arduino platform. And: Is there a new star born?

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Roberto Russo
Roberto Russo День тому
Andreas, i made a sketch that is working on a Arduino Mega 2560, and is connected trough sosftware serial to a nextion display. do you think the scketch will work easely on a Nano 33 BLE (considering tha anyway i will reassign the pin number in the sketch). i tried to compile but he give errors about the software serial and the nextion events. can you help me? Do you have any suggestion? thank you
Roberto Russo
Roberto Russo День тому
@Andreas Spiess my real question is: do you have any sketch also the simplest one that interface a nextion display to a arduino nano 33 ble? I tried to the blink sketch to include nextion.h library and it says immediately gave error
Roberto Russo
Roberto Russo День тому
@Andreas Spiess thanks, i will try ...
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess День тому
Unfortunately, I cannot do remote debugging. But I am sure you will find the error as you already know that it is in the area of the serial connection. Maybe you google with the error message?
Timothy Kern
Timothy Kern Місяць тому
I've been developing on a Mega 2560 (with temperature and 6-axis gyro/accelerometer modules), but I like the IoT capability. Is there a "Mega IoT" that I could just substitute, for the cloud application?
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Місяць тому
I do not think so. 5 volt boards are no more created these days. All new boards use 3.3 volt processors. We us the ESP32 as a replacement because it has WiFi and a lot of pins.
Jerry Ericsson
Jerry Ericsson 2 місяці тому
When ever something new is happening, and I get a chance to look it over at a great price I act. Then, after receiving my "new" product, I begin to search for someone who can tell me what the heck I have in my grubby old fingers. In this case, I was searching EBAY for a deal on some NANO boards, I love their size and how handy they are for my ghost buster projects that I build for our local paranormal club. No I am not a member, just love to play with Arduino's and they work great at building devices that are supposed to find ghosts. So it was, I was searching and came across a deal with one of the new NANO 33's. Not knowing what it was, I bid anyhow because it came with a regular NANO and there were no other bids. Got the 2 NANO's for 10 bucks plus 3 shipping. Not bad for an honest to goodness Arduino NANO and the 33 BLE Sense. Well they came in the mail today and look as though the previous owner never even tried them out. I was very happy and then I began to try and figure out what I had. Of course your video always floats to the top of my searches in UKposts and I was very happy to see that because you always do such a great job with your presentations. Now I know what I have and am even happier. It's Christmas in July!! Now to figure out what to use the new one for, those sensors are right up the alley for ghost finding purposes.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 2 місяці тому
Great find! But I do not know if I should wish that you find ghosts or not because I do not know if they are dangerous ;-) I stay with searching for weather balloons
Rolf Londal
Rolf Londal 3 місяці тому
Thanks for all your work and clear explanations. Haven't we come a long way since the Z80 and a row of eproms? :-)
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 3 місяці тому
Indeed. We live in a very good time. I enjoy it every day.
Rony Halder
Rony Halder 4 місяці тому
It's not bad. But it will affect newbies to learn easily. AVR is the easiest chip which can be programmed using ready libraries using arduino or creating libraries baremetal. Besides we're begining to enter into the era of ARM microcontrollers. But SAMD isn't better compared to STM32 chips. STM chips are much cheaper and contain larger memories. It's a good sign i guess.
Rony Halder
Rony Halder 4 місяці тому
@Andreas Spiess Yeah. that's a serious problem. They should have launched those products after doing bit of experiments. If they can't provide library fast enough it will affect makers which is really bad for arduino. But basic arduino is really great, i must say. But in my opinion ESP will win over Arduino in near future.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 4 місяці тому
Most of us use ESP32s which can be programmed the same way as an AVR or ARM chips. Unfortunately, STM is very late with Wi-Fi and still not supported by the Arduino framework (AFAIK)
George Ray
George Ray 4 місяці тому
: )
Mo Molosi
Mo Molosi 5 місяців тому
13:10 >> To receive data from a central (phone), you have to add the BLEWrite in the characteristic property at the peripheral (Arduino).
Mo Molosi
Mo Molosi 5 місяців тому
@Andreas Spiess Thanks for the video, you saved me some money and time with the Arduino BLE boards. I bought an MKR1010 instead.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 5 місяців тому
Thank you for the info!
Aduen Darriba
Aduen Darriba 5 місяців тому
The addition of Mbed to Arduino is a great advantage. IMO Arduino should release much more boards on top of Mbed
Aduen Darriba
Aduen Darriba 4 місяці тому
@Andreas Spiess Sure there are options for FreeRTOS and perhaps other platforms. but the beauty for the maker is that they can use mbed straight in there projects from the Arduino environment. No need for figuring out how to change a bootloader etc. Not saying this is better than that, but mbed Arduinos might be an undiscovered gem :)
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 5 місяців тому
We have RTOS on our ESP32 if we want. And WiFi... Plus all libraries and community support. Hard to beat for a casual Maker if you ask me.
Aduen Darriba
Aduen Darriba 5 місяців тому
@Andreas Spiess which is weird to me since mbed/rtos is so much more applicable in the maker community type projects.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 5 місяців тому
Unfortunately these boards did not get any traction in the Maker community.
Fritz Mueller
Fritz Mueller 5 місяців тому
One mayor disadvantage of the esp is the non secure WiFi, this makes it absolutely impossible to use for me
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 5 місяців тому
I am no security expert but thought, it offers SSL.
Fritz Mueller
Fritz Mueller 5 місяців тому
Why are you so worried about libraries? In arduino it is super simple to work on code or adapt old libraries...
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 5 місяців тому
If libraries for example use timers or port registers it needs a little knowhow to change them. The same was true for the ESP8266 and the ESP32. Many libraries should work right now.
Arlie
Arlie 6 місяців тому
I fixed that warning by going to File/Preferences/Show verbose output during: ☑ upload. Change from compile to upload.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 6 місяців тому
Thank you for the info!
ArrowRaider
ArrowRaider 7 місяців тому
FYI, the Nano 33 BLE does have the IMU.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 7 місяців тому
Thank you for the addition.
FPChris
FPChris 7 місяців тому
The Nano 33 BLE only shows up in Windows 10's bluetooth list when plugged into a PC's usb port directly. I can run it on a 5V battery plugged directly into the Nano's usb port but Windows does not see it. I have also tried running it 5V into the VIN as well. Same result. Anybody have success running from battery?
FPChris
FPChris 7 місяців тому
@Andreas Spiess I’ve tried several. Boards like the HM-10 show up when they power on. :/
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 7 місяців тому
Maybe you need an example sketch to enable BLE? I never used it.
A
A 8 місяців тому
Ah, UV in the 19 hundred and eighties, Glad I'm not there anymore!
Mike Stoddard
Mike Stoddard 8 місяців тому
What is the average power consumption for the Nano 33 IoT with WiFi enabled? I see it can peak at 250ma. Is is better or worse than the traditional Nano 3 running at 5 volts instead of 3.3 volts?
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 8 місяців тому
WiFi boards nee much more current than boards withour WiFi. I do not know the details of the Nano33.
Ilia Salaur
Ilia Salaur 9 місяців тому
How old are you?
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 9 місяців тому
63
Pauli Isoaho
Pauli Isoaho 9 місяців тому
Are arduino pins stil same? meaning that if in code pin is 1 then it is on board pin 1. In ESP boards this is so confusing and I don't understand why they did it that way
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 9 місяців тому
I think so. BTW: Also for the ESP32. Only the ESP8266 has an alternative numbering (which you do not need to use)
MLGSUPERGAMER
MLGSUPERGAMER 9 місяців тому
AND THE AWARD FOR BEST NICKNAME FROM UKposts GOES TO: Andreas Spiess, and his nickname of: A Guy With A swiss accent
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 9 місяців тому
Thank you. It was provided by my viewers...
Dennis Gentry
Dennis Gentry 9 місяців тому
Did you ever get a sketch that puts the uC into sleep between broadcasts so the BLE power consumption was reasonably low? Maybe I am behind on watching your videos.
Andreas Schmitt
Andreas Schmitt 10 місяців тому
What I like most of those new boards is the clean bottom side and the possibility to solder them directly to own PCBs. But this is not true for the China clones of those Nanos, because they are missing the "castellated holes" (those half holes on the outer frame) for price reasons.
Andreas Schmitt
Andreas Schmitt 10 місяців тому
@Andreas Spiess Yes, but sadly not the China clones of the Nano Every. I'm waiting for RobotDyn to create a version for professional use in a reasonable price range like they did with the Nano.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 10 місяців тому
The modules have castellated holes. The others are more intended as seperate development boards.
Jim Vanderveen
Jim Vanderveen 10 місяців тому
UV-erasable EPROM’s... I cringed when you mentioned that! Bad old days, indeed.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 10 місяців тому
They had their good and bad...
Isaac Atia-Abugbilla
Isaac Atia-Abugbilla 10 місяців тому
Thank you for the video. I was really having a hard time grasping the schematics of these new boards as I am building my own board based of the NINA-B3 family of chips. This video helped clarify plenty of things. Thank you once again
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 10 місяців тому
Glad I could help!
usman umer
usman umer 11 місяців тому
u r the best engineering teacher🌸
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 11 місяців тому
Thank you!
Zenit Zenit
Zenit Zenit 11 місяців тому
Eine hervorragende Analyse, da sie für mich als absoluten Einsteiger gut verständlich ist. *Frage* Wäre es möglich kurze (~2 Sekunden) Video Streams/Aufnahmen via Bluetooth an ein Android Gerät zu übertragen und *wenn ja* ; wäre dies bei einer _erträglichen_ Framerate möglich? LG
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess 11 місяців тому
Ich kenne mich in Videoanwendungen nicht aus. So kann ich die Frage leider nicht beantworten.
Jan93Banan
Jan93Banan Рік тому
11:38 Still have that warning on a brand new nano every, as of september 2020
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Fortunately it dows not hurt ;-)
ramo tnarg
ramo tnarg Рік тому
I am thinking of using an Arduino Nano 33 BLE to create a wireless communication between my DIY CNC and my computer. Any insights you want to share. I am new to this whole Arduino thing. Any advice you can give would be appreciated.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I have 250000 subscribers and your question is very broad. Just multiply the time needed for me.
ramo tnarg
ramo tnarg Рік тому
OH wait I think I got it. You wont give an answer if you think it is not worth making a video about. Is that what you are saying? Am I right?
ramo tnarg
ramo tnarg Рік тому
@Andreas Spiess Thanks for your reply. As of the time of writing this reply I have no idea what you are trying to say but thanks anyway for taking the time to reply.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I am a UKpostsr and share my knowledge in videos.
Andreas Lindhé
Andreas Lindhé Рік тому
Hi, thanks for a good video! I'm a bit confused about the 3.3V limitation. Is that only for the GPIO pins, or can I not power this via USB?
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Most boards have USB input and a 3.3 volts voltage regulator to feed the processor
Kevin Thomas
Kevin Thomas Рік тому
Thanks Andreas will likely stick to the ESP32.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Good choice.
Evgenii S
Evgenii S Рік тому
Thank you for a great update on all this new Arduinos.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
My pleasure!
Andrew Brown
Andrew Brown Рік тому
Fantastic summary! Do you think the Adafruit ItsyBitsy nRF52840 would be the best chip to use for long-lasting applications since it has such a low current draw?
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I do not know this board, so I do not know.
Caffeinated insanity
Caffeinated insanity Рік тому
Nano Every raises a question mark in my head because so many pins are wasted. I think making an Arduino Uno Every would have made sense, with a double header on each sides to make use of the extra GPIOs of the microcontroller yet keep compatible with uno shields.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I assume they wanted to have it somehow compatible with the old Nano.
Leyuan Ma
Leyuan Ma Рік тому
Hi, Thanks very much for sharing this, I want to build a compact and lightweight wirelessly controlled car, would you recommend me to use nano 33 IoT or BLE?
Davide Perini
Davide Perini Рік тому
Arduino IDE Is pretty anachronistic. They use one cpu thread for compilation. If you use platformio that compilation time can be reduced by N times for every cpu core you have.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
For most people this is not an important issue, I think. Simplicity and example files seem to be more important. But I made videos about PlatformIO.
Graham Gillett
Graham Gillett Рік тому
Well done, very comprehensive
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Thank you!
Matej Rajčan
Matej Rajčan Рік тому
The prices of original Arduinos were always ridiculous for me. For 3 new arduino boards you can have RPi4... For one board you can have ESP32 with a few sensors and battery. I don't see any advantage using them as ever.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
They seem to have customers...
Enrique Atentar
Enrique Atentar Рік тому
Arduino must make an Circuit Boards Dedicated to Humanoid Robots only with Autonomous binding to Google Deep Mind Cloud its means the Computer will automatically Download his programs once the Power is connected this is the Generation of living Machines.
Geert Vander Veken
Geert Vander Veken Рік тому
This video is very interesting. Thanks a lot for this video.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
You are welcome
GREAT THOUGHT
GREAT THOUGHT Рік тому
is these arduinos used in industries?
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
This is probably what they hope ;-)
Devin82m
Devin82m Рік тому
Thanks for explaining in great detail. I'm still new to micro controller boards, this stuff is fascinating!
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ten Minute Tokyo 2
Ten Minute Tokyo 2 Рік тому
DOOD!
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
:-)
xRAIN Su
xRAIN Su Рік тому
I'm waiting for risc-v(Sipeed Longan Nano RISC-V ) and micropython.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Me too ;-)
Nougator !
Nougator ! Рік тому
They a new (arm) architecture, the compiler will improve overtime
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
We hope so!
1kreature
1kreature Рік тому
EmBitz / EmBlocks / Code::Blocks did a single environment and a proper editor. Too bad Arduino didn't allow a pro mode like that.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
They would have had other choices like PlatformIO...
Simply Solo Rider
Simply Solo Rider Рік тому
Im just getting started with basically no knowledge of arduino- c+, or anything, I have a couple projects however that I'm working on and causing me more grey hair.. I bought a nano 33 ble sense and will get it today in mail. I'm thinking I made a mistake buying it as I'm new and can't seem to find much tutorials on the board. And becoming discouraged in the whole arduino project. Thanks for the video, wish I would've seen this before ordering the SENSE. Probably could've saved me money, hair, and slowly becoming a alcoholic lol. Subscribed. Hopefully I'll learn enough to finish my project.
Simply Solo Rider
Simply Solo Rider Рік тому
@Andreas Spiess Yeah I have the uno also, and a raspberry pi 4. Thanks for the reply.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Welcome aboard the channel. Your board is ok but maybe you spend 5 dollars for an Arduino uno clone from China. This model is used in most beginners projects.
Michael Miller
Michael Miller Рік тому
The NRF52840 has a very powerful PWM hardware support. I just updated NeoPixelBus library to use it and I was impressed with its flexibility. I liked it better than the Esp32 RMT hardware. That compile time for Nano 33 BLE was very painful though.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I think, the NRF52840 is a good choice...
Ryan
Ryan Рік тому
The Arduino Mega ADK had USB
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I am not sure if it has USB host functionality.
Jeremy Ellis
Jeremy Ellis Рік тому
As the libraries get newer versions for the nano 33 IOT and BLE please do more videos. I really appreciate the comparison to the ESP32. My interests are: using a webchat server with BLE servers and clients.
Jeremy Ellis
Jeremy Ellis Рік тому
@Andreas Spiess Yeh, I guess they are too expensive and too new so that many of the examples are not fully working. I have found out how to load Nordic examples on the Nano 33, which does give users more options. Perhaps use the cheap Nordic hardware for most situations and the Nano 33 BLE sense for specific sensor apps. for link google "Topic: How to upload Nordic compiled .hex file to a Nano 33 BLE (Read 108 times)" It actually loads a nordic .bin file and I bricked my nano because I missed the memory step .
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Maybe you read the comments. My viewers are not very much interested in these boards :-(
Peter
Peter Рік тому
It's interesting, watching your videos as an electrical engineer. What's so hard about looking at a picture of a pinout, then connecting according to that? You have to count a few more numbers, but it works. Also, I believe these new chips are entirely unnecessary and just a try to get ESP functionality. 'Newbies' that don't know how to program embedded will use classic chinese copy arduinos for normal projects, esp32s for ones that require bluetooth or WiFi. No reason to go to new Arduino boards. Everyone beyond that will just use something akin to FreeRTOS. And with CMSIS you have something akin to (although not as simple to use as) Arduino Libraries that works on pretty much any board that uses ARM chips, which is pretty much anything other than ESPs at this point anyways. I don't see the need to upgrade Arduinos, at least at this point. Amateurs still have plenty of power for their applications with their little 8bit chips, and they have every library imaginable under the sun ported to them. The more complex architecture gets, the more complex programming gets, generally. There's even some forays into actual, OTA-updatable OSes with the ESP32 that you can program with javascript for people that don't want to dive into Embedded at all. ESP32 is THE platform for low cost prototype IoT computing. The processors are cheap and most probably won't get expensive any time soon, so let's just keep to that, rather than trying to port libraries to odd modules.
Peter
Peter Рік тому
@Andreas Spiess Well, that's just what inevitably happens with open source hardware. And really, if chinese companies can sell UNOs and Micros for a profit at 3$, then having to pay 25 CHF for it here in Switzerland just proves there's SOMETHING wrong. Even if we take the 3$ as the manufacturing price, factor in 2$ profit for the arduino company and a 100% markup up to the final vendor in the destination country, that's still only 10$. And if it's too much hassle because of the individual boxes, then why not just sell 3-packs of arduinos for 20$? 25-100CHF is a justified price for a true eval board, that only gets produced in relatively small numbers, with periphery added, and open source schematics and plenty of examples provided. Arduinos, at this point, though, are more like a commodity. They're produced in such huge numbers that the investment for development of the platform has been recouped many times over at this point. At that point, the price should really start to drop.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I think this is why Arduino focussses more on the professional market. If I read your comment, they do not get any money from Makers anymore...
Lukas Brüderlin
Lukas Brüderlin Рік тому
Vielen Dank für diese wieder geniale Video 😊 wir sollten uns echt mal austauschen LG aus der Schweiz
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Du kannst dich gerne melden
S H
S H Рік тому
Bottom line. You are just confusing an already difficult task.
S H
S H Рік тому
What are “fenders” on BLE board?
S H
S H Рік тому
If you are NAZI GERMAN. Die.
S H
S H Рік тому
Thanks for “trying” but NO THANKS.
S H
S H Рік тому
And... your SING-SONG is shitty.
S H
S H Рік тому
CORE ! Not course ! Arduino is not AD-weno ! Get a life! Go crawl under an ELEPHANT!
S H
S H Рік тому
VOLTAGES not BOLTAGES
S H
S H Рік тому
You just rattle off “facts”... useless. Give USES for a part. This is NOT INDIA. Stay OUT of USA. Announce “INDIAN ACCENT, ignore.”
S H
S H Рік тому
Like: man-acture is NOT a word. Mon. Should be ONE. Etc
S H
S H Рік тому
Since you have a crappy FOREIGN accent, it is EXTREMELY hard to understand you. PLEASE learn English. And enunciation. Thanks
Frank Odonnell
Frank Odonnell Рік тому
Andreas, great stuff! How do I get the wemos drivers into the correct folders on c: drive?
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I do not know. Mine get there when I install the ESP8266 board in the Arduino IDE
Emmanuel R
Emmanuel R Рік тому
Thank you very much for sharing your valuable opinion on these new toys !
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
You are welcome!
grobenn25
grobenn25 Рік тому
ESP32 will remain the king for a while...
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
For most Makers, I agree...
tham john
tham john Рік тому
thanks andreas
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
You are welcome!
Legantmar
Legantmar Рік тому
Hi Andreas! I have new task for me I would like receive PuSh notification from youtube yadi.sk/i/g1wn5E6ToSk4Gg on my esp32 oled 1306 I hope this challenge will also be of interest to you for the next videos thanks for your help and video
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
So far I have no such plans :-(
bobsort
bobsort Рік тому
From my understanding, ESP-32 with higher Flash memory and speed is still better option specially with price point below $3 ($1.79 for ESP-02) and
bobsort
bobsort Рік тому
@Andreas Spiess Yes, My apologies, ESP-02 is a ESP8266
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I am not sure if the ESP-02 is an ESP32. I think it is a ESP8266
Chetan Bhargava
Chetan Bhargava Рік тому
Would you be able to review NRF52 boards available from China? How to program them and use them with Arduino environment. Thanks.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I do not know. But I have some on order...
Tom Servo
Tom Servo Рік тому
using a 32-bit cpu for monitoring switches or turning on leds, doesn't sound like a step forward
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
In the '80 we used TTL chips for that ;-)
Paul McWhorter
Paul McWhorter Рік тому
It seems that the new boards are destroying what made arduino such a standard for makers, and so popular. In the old days, arduino just worked. All libraries worked with all boards and all boards worked with all sensors. Lots of sensors, lots of libraries. Now things are confusing, and no clear sense of direction. Really think these new boards are a huge mistake, and causing confusion.
falven
falven 5 місяців тому
@Paul I haven't had any issues with libraries not working on certain boards. I think they have done a good job at making sure everything is portable. You will find incompatibilities in corner cases only. I like the more powerful boards for sure.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
If I read the comments, Arduino anyway would not sell a lot into the Maker market. So maybe they decided to go for the more professional market where speed and quality is more important. Every company these days has at least a few people dealing with "IOT"...
Edgar
Edgar Рік тому
Interesting! Thanks for the overview. Recently I started to program the ESP32 with ESP-IDF. It takes time to learn but it seems to me more professional than the Arduino programming. What do you think about ESP-IDF?
Edgar
Edgar Рік тому
@Andreas Spiess Thanks for your fast reply. Maybe you should have a look, it's an interesting system. By now it's easy to install it. I used the ESP-IDF and VisualStudio Code and editor. I tried it with PlatformIO but that is currently too limited for ESP-IDF. A good start is here: docs.espressif.com/projects/esp-idf/en/latest/ My first project was a CAN-BUS logger (500k bus) because the Arduinos were too slow for that.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I never tried it.
Jack Christensen
Jack Christensen Рік тому
5:29 It seems that Adafruit isn't so much an Arduino reseller these days.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
At least they have them listed ;-)
EnergeticWaves
EnergeticWaves Рік тому
Great work. Danke.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
You are welcome!
Om Kharde
Om Kharde Рік тому
Can u please make a cell phone detector like this one homemadelectronics.blogspot.com
Om Kharde
Om Kharde Рік тому
@Andreas Spiess I have build same cell phone detector but it works for few times and gets burn can u please solve the issue
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I think there is enough information in your link to build one if you are interested. I made WiFi and BLE detectors for Smartphones.
chipnotic
chipnotic Рік тому
Why can't they release a Cortex board plain and vanilla like the 8bit board?
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I do not know...
Sam Coupé
Sam Coupé Рік тому
ukposts.info/have/v-deo/sqObiKZ9iWaguoU.html www.fruitcake.plus.com/…/Spectra/SpectraInterface.htm zxprism.blogspot.com/ sites.google.com/site/ulaplus/home ukposts.info/have/v-deo/f6qFnmqteqZexKc.html www.ys3.org/2011/02/17/mmmm-reruns/ ukposts.info/have/v-deo/p5-abainr2x2pIE.html ukposts.info/have/v-deo/cJlmln1pppCCr3k.html velesoft.speccy.cz/data-gear.htm facebook.com/mb02plus/ www.bytedelight.com/… ukposts.info/have/v-deo/hnSWZYtueG2qqJ8.html ukposts.info/have/v-deo/iYmkpqOlm46ruHk.html ukposts.info/have/v-deo/bqhziq6oqnph1p8.html ukposts.info/have/v-deo/mpWYoq6IbYGiuqs.html ukposts.info/have/v-deo/j4OlgK6wZJCSxJs.html ukposts.info/have/v-deo/jHpqhqKjeaxi0Zs.html
Sam Coupé
Sam Coupé Рік тому
@Andreas Spiess I've been working on full screen animations for ten years slow progress...
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Thank you for your links!
Mick
Mick Рік тому
Move to bitchute.com ... UKposts is pox!
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Watch eevblogs video and you know why I will stay here
Ian Ide
Ian Ide Рік тому
Not saying anything negative about the review here but.... What I want is non-connected or only locally connected devices, that is to say, nothing wireless. It is indeed interesting to see new products but I don't have any interest in this round of arduino. More CAN, I2C, or even UART devices is what I want to see come out soon. Luckily there's a ton out there already. As always, I look forward to more of your videos.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Here you will find a lot of wireless devices because I love the possibilities of wireless...
Dennis Letkeman
Dennis Letkeman Рік тому
You should compare the nRF52840 to the Artemis boards that SparkFun came out with.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I first have to get the nRF52840 running, I think...
tzok83
tzok83 Рік тому
Have you seen Chinese Mega 2560 Pro (ATMega2560) and Pro Micro (ATMega32U4) boards?
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I used one of these pro mini boards for my 433 MHz bridge because it is so small and I did a project with the micro (Excel data logger)
Prince Banini
Prince Banini Рік тому
very informative video. as always you make my day Mr. Spiess
Prince Banini
Prince Banini Рік тому
You're welcome sir
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Thank you!
DarkShadowsX5
DarkShadowsX5 Рік тому
1:58 Crazy devil lopers?
S4RG3
S4RG3 Рік тому
I heard "Crazy devil hoppers" ROFLMAO... 😅
Namer Num
Namer Num Рік тому
Rejected
Leonardo Navarro
Leonardo Navarro Рік тому
Great information!!! Regards from Cuba
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
It is, but I do not often look into those statistics :-( I have to create videos...
Leonardo Navarro
Leonardo Navarro Рік тому
@Andreas Spiess Is it not possible to know the origin of the subscribers, from youtube?
Leonardo Navarro
Leonardo Navarro Рік тому
@Andreas Spiess It's very possible especially in La Habana, but I don't known someone
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Thank you! Did not know I have viewers there...
Thuan Duong
Thuan Duong Рік тому
nano board should use voltage from 3.3v to 3.7v(4.2V max) to jibe and be compatible with Li-ion or LiPO battery
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
They decided to not add battery management. That boards are very small. Maybe a matter of lack of space?
Karthikeyan Balasubramanian
Karthikeyan Balasubramanian Рік тому
At 18:35 you'v mentioned something about connected and not connected devices? May I ask what does that mean?!
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Connected for me means tha they have a possibility to connect wirelessly. This is very important in today‘s „mobile“ world.
DigitalYojimbo
DigitalYojimbo Рік тому
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Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
We all love it. But it sucks with BLE
rlowens
rlowens Рік тому
7:10 Your chart should list ESP32's internal Temperature Sensor and Hall Sensor, and maybe the 10 Capacitive Touch Sensors.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
You are right. But the temp sensor is only to measure CPU temperature.
rlowens
rlowens Рік тому
7:10 You said you weren't sure if the ESP32 is 5V tolerant. It is, ESP32 and ESP8266 are officially acknowledged as having 5V tolerant GPIO.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I know it officially from the ESP8266. Do you have a link to the official statement of the ESP32?
Jean Paul Berríos
Jean Paul Berríos Рік тому
Thank you, please consider something about UWB decawave very interesting
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Way too expensive for this channel for the Moment.
peter snape
peter snape Рік тому
Surely the BLE power consumption is due to the BLE device being a MASTER unit rather than a SLAVE unit. A master has to be awake all the time in order to notice slaves transmitting. Is there software available to make the unit act as a BLE slave?
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
You have both examples. But the sensor has to be lower power than the receiver as the receiver usually has more possibilities (e.g. smartphone)
Arnaud MEURET
Arnaud MEURET Рік тому
TL;DR: Stick to ESP32, stick to PlatformIO. Arduino is mostly brand marketing now.
grobenn25
grobenn25 Рік тому
Pretty much what I was also thinking. ESP32 FTW.
Arnaud MEURET
Arnaud MEURET Рік тому
True, brand trust is still in their favour for now. For the future however, I wouldn’t put a penny on it. My trust in Espressif went through the roof in 2017 when I saw their reactivity on fixing the Krack vulnerability discovered in WiFi. That and the antiquated Arduino IDE made the balance irreversibly tilt toward my current universal setup ESPs + PlatformIO Core. That’s where all the fun happens for me nowadays.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
If I read the comments, Arduino does not get a lot of business from hardcore makers. Maybe they try it with the more professional market where time is valuable and people want a trusted brand.
Eddy_D
Eddy_D Рік тому
The syllabus mentioned discussing multi-core support but I must have missed that... where is it in the video?
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I made a video. Search for „steroids“.
Daytona FPV
Daytona FPV Рік тому
i love the 33iot
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I think it has his place in the market.
Erazor
Erazor Рік тому
It would be the best if be able to choose a suitable microcontroller and all Sensors you realy need for a specific project. Like: Atmega, Temp/Hum sensors, Display, coin Cell holder, ble I know it's nearly impossible but you can go also on a Website and click together any PC that you want, why not with any IOT stuff?
Jake Garrett
Jake Garrett Рік тому
Cost. Sell 1 model and have 1 factory and buy 1 million parts at a time. Have 20 product lines? 20 factory lines minimum, have huge inventory space (because some might not sell for a while, and if you change production lines and get a massive order you won’t have time to fulfil). Retooling as those components are in no way the same shape and some might be picked up by vacuum while others may need robotic arms and hands of various sizes or a simple PNP machine), then solder order (can’t just heat-gun it all now if there is some plastic coin battery box if it melts, WiFi chips might be more susceptible to damage if it’s too hot so then you gotta change your temps and duration), then it also gets cluttered picking an item (“mom I want an Arduino for my birthday”, “ok, sweets, they have like 20, which one...”). Modular design (just like computers) has been a big thing for Arduino, it’s basically legos anyways, just like computers (pick a CPU and main board, pop it in just like a WiFi chip on Arduino, slot in ram just like a motor driver module, slide in an NVMe just like an SSD card reader, plug in a GPU or WiFi networking card just like a WiFi module, pick your power supply just like Arduino, it’s all basically the same thing). I think the modular way is probably just as cheap as integrated to due to above logistic and manufacturing issues, plus for $2 you can make it entirely different purpose in the future. If you didn’t know, you just buy whatever computer parts you want, like my machine has: TR-1950x CPU 4x R9 Fury GPUs 4x 8GB 3600 memory 2x SuperNova 1300 PSUs NVME SSD, RGB SATA SSD, mechanical HDD Water cooling with multiple radiators 3x 4k monitors plus a 240Hz 1080p monitor And if I feel like it I can also add more: for rendering videos while I games I’ve used a Titan Xp for CUDA acceleration plus 3x RX470 for open GL compute while I did some 4k gaming on 2x R9 Fury crossfire, all on the same PC, 6 GPUs of mixed graphics for specific tasks all at once, just like Arduino modules can be combined. So it’s very similar with the old modular designs as computers are, they already have that.
qwaqwa1960
qwaqwa1960 Рік тому
I refuse to use a processor called SAM! Marketing geniacs...ugh.
S4RG3
S4RG3 Рік тому
Movie reference, I just can't remember which... 😅
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
Maybe not the weirdest name I heard ;-)
Leo Zendo
Leo Zendo Рік тому
0.16 million people are sitting in the first row. Wow, I had rather be sitting in the second row so I can be closer.
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
If you are big, no problem;-)
Mat Helm
Mat Helm Рік тому
"Crazy Devil Op'ers"?
Dr. Paul Plumbing Heating
Dr. Paul Plumbing Heating Рік тому
Good testing job, yes "common sense" is still lacking in the world with silkscreen on the bottom, Hey Did you SEE, the new small chip that came out, Attiny1616 / Attiny3217, Yes LOL i too seen the 60fps camera needed,
Andreas Spiess
Andreas Spiess Рік тому
I looked at some of those new Attinys. But I think you need a particular need or high series. Which core did you use for development?
Natchapol Rattanaprom
Natchapol Rattanaprom Рік тому
I still prefer ESP
Fritz Mueller
Fritz Mueller 5 місяців тому
I absolutely hate esp
Kitécat TestEcke
Kitécat TestEcke Рік тому
It has far less Pins and if you dont use wifi it gives interference with analog circuits.. Just because iot takes oft doesnt mean esp wifi is a solution to alll problems. Plesse make an esp sps Kind if device...
Glitchy Soup
Glitchy Soup Рік тому
I wonder, when they will start using RISC-V.
KOMBAT UB
KOMBAT UB Рік тому
​@Glitchy Soup yup it's good on paper, but the community can't convince non-expert user to start using it instead of ATMEL/ARM. it's hard to find simple project risc v-based in google. meanwhile uno and stm have ton of example. that's why risc-v cant replace them, yet
Glitchy Soup
Glitchy Soup Рік тому
@KOMBAT UB I dissagree. RISC-V is already good enought for microcontrollers. Just look at all the RISC-V microcontroller boards out there. Only unfinished is RISC-V for GNU/Linux (vector, JIT extensions not yet ratified)
KOMBAT UB
KOMBAT UB Рік тому
sorry my bad, i think bop can be used for something that hype, it turns out only for song. risc-v need further development to replace ATmega, ARM and esp.
Glitchy Soup
Glitchy Soup Рік тому
@KOMBAT UB bop?
KOMBAT UB
KOMBAT UB Рік тому
Arduino already had risc-v based microcontroller but not a bop.
Glitchy Soup
Glitchy Soup Рік тому
Please use 60fps. It is 2019 already. If you can't afford 60fps camera, use your phone.
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