So the 3080 XG has 16gb of gddr6? I would love to have that card for desktop.

@@santiagoferrari1973 No, the XGM is a mobile GPU, so no GDDR6X, just the desktop card.

We need the thunderbolt 5 for that with the new gpus coming soon. Asus is definitely going to release an XG MOBiLE with an rtx 4070 or rx 7700 xt. And the flow lineup of laptops will come with the amd phoenix cpu that (according to leaks) it will dethrone the rtx 3060 mobile :V

I would love to see an external desktop dock like this for the xg connector. Like the msi gs30 shadow before it. The was a really cool concept that sold in very small volumes but had an external dock like the port-replicators for business notebooks. This dock had a full size Gen 3 16x slot and room for a 3.5" HDD.

Hahahaha I wrote the same after I read you did before heheheheh

The link is still pcie 3.0 x8, so bandwith would be an issue with higher end cards. But a full power 3060 ti will likely be faster and cheaper than this 3080

@@ivanbrasla still higher bandwidth than Thunderbolt 4 tho, 63 GBps vs 40 GBPS

Heck yeah! The Apple Powerbook Duos were amazing

Very true. Light and travel friendly laptop during day, heavy-duty gaming rig in the night

IBM/Lenovo used to have that in the past, a docking station with a GPU enclosure built into it, it was WAY too slow for gaming and only really useful for connecting multiple displays, but this was 2003 or something, quite revolutionary for its time.

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That's not going to happen. Nobody is going to want to jump through those hoops for such a small market. At least thunderbolt docks are supported by just about every laptop over $1200. The XG mobile connector is on like 3 Asus laptops. It just doesn't make sense to invest the RND. As cool as it would be to have that, it's unlikely.

@@Jackofafewtrades I'm pretty sure with the crapton of useless junk out there some company would love to be the only one in the market to profit off those devices' userbase ;) especially if they continue to use the connector in future models!

Since the XG mobile connector is proprietary and unique only to a subset of Asus laptops, I don't foresee any 3rd party eGPU enclosure manufacturers like Razer or Sonnet wasting time and resources to build a device with such a connector. Because no one would buy it except for those who have an Asus laptop with the connector. But what Asus has shown however, is it's possible to offer an external PCIe solution with power delivery and more pcie lanes than thunderbolt. So instead of 40 Gbps max, you get what 60 or 80 Gbps ? Until intel launches TB5, this could be a good solution. But the reason why thunderbolt is good is because it encapsulates various signals along the same wire: pcie, ethernet, DisplayPort, usb, and power delivery. I don't think this Asus solution encapsulates the same signaling. But if other manufacturers could form a consortium and agree to interoperate using the XG mobile connector form factor (or some other common form factor) then this would probably drive broader industry adoption of the tech for eGPUs at least. But since Radeon and Nvidia mobile solutions are becoming even stronger, I don't think any of the manufacturers will dedicate capital to do it. Motherboard manufacturers would have to be onboard as well.

@@j340_official I mean as far as I remember, Dell's graphics connector on some Alienware laptops was better than TB3. And Microsoft's surface connect also has pcie throughput that's supposedly better than TB3. For what it's worth, others have tried but I don't think any have licenced the tech.

@@Jackofafewtrades I don’t think the surface connect had more than 4 lanes of pcie 3.0, and either way, while the surface dock had options for supporting monitors and such, you still couldn’t connect external pcie nvme storage or pcie Ethernet or even a pcie gpu. Microsoft didn’t adopt tb3 because it felt the tech was potentially unsafe due to DMA attacks. But tb4 mandates dma memory protection so now Microsoft offers tb4. Tb4 is good but given that nvme storage now maxes out at 4 lanes of pcie4.0 and later this year nvme drives will adopt pcie5.0 and offer over 12,000 MB/sec… tb4 is starting to look very dated. It’s time for intel to move on and either offer pcie4.0 speeds or even pcie5.0 if a 3 ft copper cable can support such bandwidth.

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now let's wait for him to reach one million, he deserves it

Well, well, well, what do you know. This has happened!

I forgot about that one, but think I did it in last year's video with the X13

@@JarrodsTech If you still have them, run them and put it in the description if you wouldn't mind pls. I think the results would be interesting

Sup asus slaveboy, seems like my words became true

This problem is with this particular device, not common to all laptops. If you have any gaming laptop with TB3 or TB4, you'll get pretty decent performance with egpu dock.

I've been recommending against e-gpu's since jarrod did his last video. I agree with you on just buying a laptop with a better GPU. I personally think the ideal setup is desktop at home, lightish laptop for travel.

A laptop is less modular though. And a two device setup would have issues with syncing game saves and mods.

@@123Suryasis False. The problems with this device are seprate but the bandwidth bottleneck can't be sorted out unless more powerful connection is made. That is why an eGPU performs way worse than properly installed desktop GPU. I hope to see what TB5 brings and if it will solve the bottleneck issues but probably not since GPUs will keep getting more powerful too

He has. Multiple times.

@@Terreos with 12th gen?

Testing done on both laptop and external screen. The game graphs include each resolution on the monitor as well as on the laptop.

@@JarrodsTech thanks will rewatch. The fact that you replied+ thoroughness to this is why you're my go-to reference to ALL my friends and IT colleagues.

It's because of bandwidth limitation of the cable. Actually there is standard external pcie connection, i.e. oculink, that can handle up to 80 gbps. But instead of being common in consumer pc, oculink is used more in server.

@@mzamroni oculink is also very expensive

So I have a dell xps 15 9520 and I saw a lot of the same things as he did. The gpu would crash at least once before it would just reboot and not have that issue anymore. After a driver update it worked flawlessly with connection and disconnection. The bandwidth limitation doesn't affect me in all titles, just the ones from about 3 years ago onward. The CPU will be your next big bottleneck. Get at least a 6 core or higher cpu with 28 watts or higher if you don't want to be cpu limited. My dell xps 15 9520 doesn't limit me to 30 watts when connected with egpu power, just make sure you get an enclosure with 85-100 watts of charging if you don't want to drain the battery under load. Overall I think the biggest takeaway is that the convenience of the laptop form factor and the power of the eGPU is great if what you do isn't maxing out your system. It's a maliable package to fit in a variety of packages and keeps you're laptop cooler since the internal screen isn't always used and the iGPU isn't active. If you truly want best bang for the buck and or what more customizability then go desktop and a middling laptop although this will separate you're data into 2 places and might require an external storage solution for better data sharing.

The distance is more limited with PCIe 4 and even more limited with PCIe 5.

It's understandable when the majority of 3rd party products are straight junk.

Yeah, it's definitely a bit strange. 🤔

I doubt it matters, the Thunderbolt overhead would matter more.

No change, Thunderbolt 4 still sucks, maybe Thunderbolt 5 will be better as it has 80/120gbps rather than 40.

@@JarrodsTech thanks for reply, very appreciated 👍

Not sure, I don't have any specifics like a version number or anything to share.

I haven't received one to test with yet.

Still bottlenecked by thunderbolt 4.

Glad I could help

I'm covering what I'm able to get. I mentioned in the A15 video how I asked for more budget devices from brands, but they rarely send them.

No way of getting the machine and it'd be very niche content for the time spend, so probably not sorry.

@@JarrodsTech worth asking, thanks! Thank you for going the extra effort of making wonderful videos!

Will the problem be resolved if I buy an eGPU that supports PD 100W?

@@qategori_ Hello, this is really an old post lol, but hey. It is not about the chargers capability to 100w tho. Any other charger, including egpus will only charge the z13 to 65 watt even it is capable to push 100w . Whats your egpu problem? Im still using this egpu setup up till today as im writing this, and performance is still a beast(if youd like to know the status of this setup)

In my opinion, if you buy XG Mobile, it can't be used on other laptops that support TB3. So I decided to buy an eGPU so I can use it on other devices. I was planning to buy XG Station Pro + 5500 xt, but when I saw this video I had doubts. What do you think? Am I better off using the same eGPU as you?

@@qategori_ Yes true, you cant use the XG mobile on non asus products, they use proprietary connector for that. Same reason why I went for an EGPU so that I can use it on other devices that has thunderbolt / usb 4. Im not really sure about the compatibility of XG Station Pro on z13, what I had tested was the razer core only, and it works flawlessly .

@@againstallodds4196 Well, thank you for the opportunity to answer my question. Nice to meet you here so that you can help me get information for my decision.

Nope, You will use one or another, gap between 3070ti with high wattage compare to low wattage 3080m can be one digit. It’s profitable only if you have 3050tim as maximum

good next buy legion 7 😅

It could be an z13 issue. I haven't encountered this level of issues with other laptops.

I think Jarrod can correct me if I’m wrong but you can connect anything with anything, problem is cable and ports. use at least hdmi 2.1 or displayport 2.0 with certified cables

Yup, what art lew says. The limitation would be the hdmi. I find this useful for checking: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Refresh_frequency_limits_for_standard_video

That's great!

Какой выбрал?)

@@vladimirokhrimchuk Привіт. Вибрав Lenovo legion 5.

@@gehnn125 хороший выбор, особенно если с 3070

@@vladimirokhrimchuk У мене вистачило бюджету на Ryzen 7, RTX 3050 TI, 16 gb ram, 165 гц.

Not sure. I do them whenever I have a bit of time and feel like doing them. You can always join the Discord to ask questions. more info here: jarrods.tech/jarrodstech-discord-server/

Not that I'm aware of, but I haven't done any further testing.

@@JarrodsTech recommendation of strix scar 15 (i9 2070ti) or Xmg neo 15 (i7 2070ti)? Prices are very similar. Will use it for warzone, school (CAD software), and work (zoom meetings and zoom presentations)

not just one charger, one port. Where you have other peripherals connected to the dock.

@@TabalugaDragon I meant as in "I can bring one charger to charge my laptop, phone, earphones, and other gadgets"