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День томуCool projects are rare. Here I found one I want to show to you. An off-grid personal communicator. It includes a lot of new technologies: ESP32, Smartphones, LoRa, BLE, GPS, Mesh, and as you see, 3D printing. And it solves a problem that could be seen as a human right: Personal SMS style communication everywhere in the world, without the need for any infrastructure, and without mass surveillance. In addition, it shows the location of all your friends in your group on a map on your Smartphone. Everything open source, of course. How cool is that? Even "Sexycyborg" Naomi Wu likes it.
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@jasonvoorhees895 3 роки тому
Years ago, I thought "There's gotta be a way to invent a cell phone that doesn't use service providers, does its own transmitting and receiving, and the more people in an area that had them, the better they would work. If ONLY I knew SQUAT about electronics...."
@2bczar4u 3 роки тому
There was a Tv series a few years back where people were always watched and analysed by a computer linked to all cameras and phones. It sent messages to this person about saving certain people. When the competing bad computer was launched, good guys had to use this type of network to communicate. Since LOS was required nodes were set on the rooftops. Might have been this tech that fueled this idea. I thought how handy this would be in a surveillance state.
@eternalillusion 3 роки тому
@@2bczar4u The idea is fundamental enough in of itself that surely many people have had it long before it started to get traction. I thought of a similar approach to a distributed internet when i was in middle school. Ideas are only as good as the resources available to implement them.
@mikabreto 3 роки тому
The HBO show Silicon Valley had the company pivot into distributed internet in the fifth season. These memes are out there, they just need traction. This project helps like snow tires in the traction arena.
@PowderMill 3 роки тому
2bczar4u PERSON OF INTEREST! Great show but it would never be allowed on the new SJW /Far Left networks.
@2bczar4u 3 роки тому
@@PowderMill yeah, they would probably flip the story. Everything good would be bad and the bad guys would be justified. Fekken idiots destroy everything.
@bigclivedotcom 3 роки тому
I must admit, I'm quite taken by this concept.
@templebrown7179 3 роки тому
Looks like Clive is also a subscriber of the man with the Swiss accent.
@BloodBlight 3 роки тому
I had thought about something like this when I first saw LORA on this channel, glad to see someone is way ahead of me!!! I am curious if the "relays" can work without being paired to a phone. I assume so. They could even be powered/recharged by solar or other sources...
@khester 3 роки тому
@@BloodBlight yes to all of that
@s4vila 3 роки тому
@bigclivedotcom same. If it advances to so that messages propagate instantly it could make for an interesting cueing system for shows or backstage coms. You should be able to easily link messages to a relay of some sort to power an LED or something similar.
@dicktonyboy 3 роки тому
@@templebrown7179 It's THE place to be. Trouble is I'm old enough to say "Be there or be square" :(
@maytronix7201 3 роки тому
I feel like I walked into the wrong classroom but I'm too embarrassed to leave
@robertwells3797 3 роки тому
Haha I'm with you, no clue how I ended up here
@AndreasDelleske 3 роки тому
FBI is already on the way :-)
@fatrambo73 3 роки тому
lol same it all sounds cool but i have no idea way above my head
@garyh4458 3 роки тому
LOL. I have done that before in college.
@pistonwristpin1 3 роки тому
Yep, I walked into the wrong classroom, but didn’t know school taught stuff like that, so I’m stayin’.
@davidlong9046 3 роки тому
This is needed now more then ever. Perfect timing!
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you!
@davidlong9046 3 роки тому
@@smokingcrab2290 Indeed it does. Calling to the eithar in perfection , time and necessity.
@davidlong9046 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess welcome
@alanacartes3382 3 роки тому
Look into the new administration's push to criminalize independent/unofficial broadcasting. I was puzzled when I first heard about it. I am TAKEN ABACK that there appears, as per usual as of late - NO pushback that I have seen. If anyone is aware of any efforts to actually INFORM ppl, please reply. I am disheartened with the pained awareness most seem to have something impacting and diminishing their attention span(s) (almost like that MIB neuralizer?) I would like to SHARE with concerned ppl with large channels in an effort to steer the support of even just many if not most of those subscribers.
@filthyfrankblack4067 3 роки тому
Glad you finally on board.. Please spread the work.
@Meshtastic 2 роки тому
Thanks for this amazing video. A lot of people learned about Meshtastic because of you. You rock!
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
Thank you! I see taht it also got traction in the HAM radio community. I just started a second channel in this field and probably I will cover the project again. Particularly the more enhanced functions to build networks .
@wherami 5 місяців тому
@@AndreasSpiess yes thank you for promoting this. Its something thats been needed for a long time. decades ago we theorized this in seattle and implemented some variations of this in our local neighborhoods but things have really progressed now.
@Jackknife-TV 3 роки тому
Wow this is perfect timing for what's going on in the US right now
@the_luminary 3 роки тому
I think that's why were here right now
@Ed19601 3 роки тому
Not just usa
@lumberjackdreamer6267 2 роки тому
What is this thing you say is “going on”??
@rcpmac 2 роки тому
@@lumberjackdreamer6267Just the same ole treason and sedition
@martyewise 3 роки тому
Very nice project that uses several different technologies of interest. Thanks!
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You bet! That is why it is one of my favorites.
@SteveRichfield 3 роки тому
Japan has a Constitutional ban on military secrets - so you should be able to operate a very broad band relatively powerful HF CDM, which would be undetectable, and even if detected - it would still be legal - in Japan. From there, despite laws, people would export these units to more repressive countries - like the U.S. Once there are a few thousand of these units operating around the world, the genie would be out of the bottle and secure secret communication would be possible - which would be enough to topple repressive governments who don't clean up their act. THIS could change our world for the better. Keep up the good work.
@leapfrog4561 3 роки тому
Another thing I admire about japan is that the government seems to respect their constitution. The reason they didn’t shut down businesses and lock down is because the prime minister recognized that according the their constitution the government does not have the power to tell people what to do.
@salty_armorer4027 3 роки тому
Got any links for me to read up on this???
@whatscookingresearch 7 місяців тому
The need is to operate without any government. They are all repressive
@PyroChimp75 3 роки тому
Downloaded this video before it mysteriously disappears ;)
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Good concept. And post it to a peer-to-peer network ;-)
@Electronieks 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess tpb ? ok
@AkraiLulerz 3 роки тому
like peertube
@awaisahmadsiddiqi6505 3 роки тому
@@AkraiLulerz does something like this exist?
@Adnub 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess You should upload your videos to LBRY as well. They have an option to automatically import your videos as you upload them here. Dave from EEVblog is already using it and I watch all his videos that way.
@BerndSchmitt-Martinique 3 роки тому
The way you are preparing stuff and communicate it is absolutely phantastic. Greetings from Germany and keep on motivating your community.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Wow, thank you!
@eek0212 3 роки тому
i think people in hongkong will be really appreciate this little device
@Graeme_Lastname 3 роки тому
And if you get caught?
@AshGreen359 3 роки тому
Soon proper in the US will too
@parishna4882 3 роки тому
@@Graeme_Lastname they chop your hands off and tell you to tie your own shoe laces?
@Phelan666 3 роки тому
People in America need it way, way more.
@FedoraSpunk 3 роки тому
@First Munch no, I'd make something else
@PurohitAnkit 3 роки тому
Dear Andreas. Thank you for the time and effort you put in your videos to educate us on the topic. Looking forward to seeing more from you :D
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are welcome!
@easemailboxes 3 роки тому
Im new to this space and want to thank you for such a clear and concise introduction. Thanks also for Disaster radio, amazing project. Your work is fascinating. Im ready to take the next step. Thanks.
@russel1170 2 роки тому
I'm ready as well!
@everready19373 3 роки тому
These need to be mass produced NOW!!
@SquidCena 3 роки тому
If it was, they would be tackled by censorship and privacy as always. Has to be made in secret or all the big corporations will literally try to stop it at all costs.
@davagain 3 роки тому
In China?
@jimmyfio 3 роки тому
You know you are changing the world with every video. God bless you!
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you!
@RoelvanWanrooy 3 роки тому
Thanks for using and linking my 3D case! I always watch your interesting videos. Keep up the good work! 👍
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you for your cute little case! I like it.
@unknownstuntman4166 3 роки тому
If only the mere mortals like me could just buy this online already made. Then talk to other people who also own one, then big brother can’t keep snooping
@muctop17 3 роки тому
Just flashed it! Due to earlier videos of you, I do have TTGO T-beam and other LORA-modules in stock. Thank you! This sunday project is salved
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Great! So you are a tester now...
@muctop17 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Not so fast OM! I have the T-beam and my Wifi-Lora-32 up and running, but my other toys are too old, I think: a Nexus 7 tablet and a S5neo, I stole from my wife. The Android app ist not runnig smooth on these. I can´t setup/alter a channel. Bluetooth is unstable and so on. I never bought a smartphone or mobile myself, always use old ones I found in the trashbin of my children. There is no manual how to setup/use the app?
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You probably have to ask Kevin for that. I do not know all the details and prerequisites.
@khester 3 роки тому
Some old bluetooth implementations were pretty buggy. Try rebooting the phone, then pair the device in android settings/bluetooth then launch the app. If you have further problems just post in meshtastic.discourse.group/ and we'll help.
@muctop17 3 роки тому
@@khester Thank you ! That helped, connecting, but I can´t correct Group setup because the lock symbol does not open ! Could not click it open!?
@cedricbillingsley3960 3 роки тому
Your ideas are the yummiest!! Keep cooking them up!
@qkb3128 Рік тому
Just a note to you I love your recaps enjoy really listening to you do you seem to really know what you’re talking about thank you so much I just subscribed today.
@AndreasSpiess Рік тому
Welcome aboard the channel!
@GUVWAF 3 роки тому
This project sounds perfect for when hiking in remote areas where cellular coverage is limited (or when you turn mobile data off to save battery). It would be great to see each others' location and negotiate on e.g. lunch time. As you say, a lot of interesting technologies are combined, so it sounds as a very interesting project to work on! Thank you for this nice explanation.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I think you are right on the spot with the usage...
@NiHaoMike64 3 роки тому
Perhaps a good future project to add to it would be a Raspberry Pi Zero W attached to one or more LoRa modules to allow interconnecting LoRa mesh networks with Tor or I2P?
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are welcome to contribute to the project. They have a collaborative room
@k98killer 2 роки тому
I am working on a new network protocol specification that includes encrypted tunnels as a core feature. The basic idea is to use latency measurements between hosts to derive addresses in several dimensions using basic gradient descent. The first node in a network becomes the origin, and every new node calculates and self-assigns an address encoding coordinates after gaining latency attestations from neighbors; all other nodes can then verify the address very quickly using the latency attestations. One of the benefits to this coordinates-as-address system is that routing becomes a matter of forwarding to the neighbor who has the lowest distance from the target address. How to make that an efficient look up is something I have yet to formalize, but I have outlined other things, like gaining guest address leases from hosts, bridging between networks, neighborhood gossip protocol, anti-spam policies, etc.
@serta5727 3 роки тому
Awesome, thanks a lot. People from the Philippines will need this a lot in the next years.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are welcome!
@sharpbends 3 роки тому
Cool project, I wrote a similar application just for fun when I got a pair of T-Beams (also securely) communicating with Android - over 3km range in my brief testing. The The T-beam is ideal for this mesh group communications task.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Maybe you join their project? The still need some help...
@khester 3 роки тому
Oh yes we would love the help and it is super fun/friendly
@tsclly2377 3 роки тому
www.amazon.com/TTGO-T-Beam-868Mhz-Bluetooth-Battery/dp/B07DGF3S22
@tonytschanz5642 3 роки тому
What a GreaTastic Posting! Thank you Andreas ... and I am a (worse) Swiss Accent Fellow despite having lived away from my home country for many decades by now ;-)
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you. Meanwhile it is my trade mark ;-)
@engineeringadventures1229 3 роки тому
Almost exactly what I was looking for for. Thanks!
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad I could help!
@GrandpasPlace 2 роки тому
I got a couple of these for christmas and came back to rewatch some of your lora videos. They have improved the meshtastic firmware a lot. You can now connect them to your wifi and have them put messages (encrypted) into an MQTT server that is then picked up by all nodes using the mqtt server with the same channel name/key over the internet and rebroadcast. Basically, I could set up a node here in Texas connected to an MQTT server, you could set up a node in Sweden connected to the same MQTT server both with the same channel names/keys and I could send a message from my phone that you get delivered to your phone. All encrypted via the mesh network and sent over the internet. Out of the box with the stock antenna it gets good range. From a shelf in my house to the other one being on the dashboard of my car, I got 1km. Bet if I install a high gain antenna and put it on a mast I can get much further. Thanks for the great videos.
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
Good to know. I did not follow the project. But this is good news!
@avejst 3 роки тому
Great walkthrough/project as always 👍 Thanks for sharing 👍😀
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thanks for the visit!
@rednassie1101 3 роки тому
I cannot stress how excited I am right now
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad you like it!
@rednassie1101 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess how can someone _not_ ? :P
@kevin.whouse2269 3 роки тому
I'm very interested I'm so tied of being spied on everything you do on these smart phones is recorded and I mean everything. This technology is in our TV's too so this is so interesting I would love to see this product grow into a great private communication device Great Idea 👍👏
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you!
@anthonygato407 2 роки тому
not only is everything accounted for recorded but the behavior is also being inferred to extract some future behavior. you cant just do something. you do something and its applied to all knowledge of psychological data and discoveries to label the mind state, personality type, health, ect ect ...
@dougbas3980 2 місяці тому
I am just starting now. 3 years after this video, so anxious to see all Anfeas's newer videos on Meshtastic.😎
@ColecaoNintendo 3 роки тому
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@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Gracias!
@guatagel2454 3 роки тому
Thank you! This is exactly what I need!
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad it was helpful!
@jdueheue 3 роки тому
That’s perfect for our cruise ship holidays. The problem there is that WiFi and lte are incredibly expensive on ships, so normally it’s not easy to communicate on a 350m long ship :-) Lora should even work in such a steel-y environment.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Very good idea. Would be worthwhile to check how the steel influences the range. I have not "cruise plans" for the moment :-(
@redbaron9029 3 роки тому
This is just the beginning I can see voice followed by video calls facilitation along this mesh network. It might be another revolution in communication.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I do not think so. Because of its limitations it will only cover a niche.
@MR-nl8xr 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess what would it take to get it there? Would it even make sense to get it there? If so, would it the material or resource to do that outweigh it's current advantages?
@fitybux4664 2 роки тому
@@MR-nl8xr Wifi links to all of your neighbors you'd care to communicate with. Hook up using the same equipment WISPs use. (Point-to-point wifi links.) We were already there years ago. But first you'd need neighbors that want to go through all of that trouble and expense just for a "maybe". (Because you could just chat with them over the internet while that's up and running.) T-BEAM is a ~$35 "maybe" if you just buy one node. Setting up your own wifi-neighbors-infrastructure could get into the thousands of dollars / sky is the limit. (Not saying it wouldn't be cool. Do it!)
@4Da_Tech 3 роки тому
So, i build this exact seyup back on older equipment. I like what you did here. Look into microwave power transmission for overcoming battery /power issues
@justintothetruth6843 3 роки тому
Pretty much all tech started for military use. So I’m excited. I think this is going to be very handy. For who? 😬 we’ll see
@ShawnJonesHellion 2 роки тому
your comment makes me think telepathy is probably the better route to choose. not sure if electronics are a crutch to the magic or a trap.
@MrFreakRick 3 роки тому
read about this back it in 1998... "Hands of this book"...
@Mizzimo 3 роки тому
I can't find "Hands of this book"
@santorcuato 3 роки тому
Really interesting as usual. For me it seems a little bit rare to send GPS position for something "underground", but for a "private" use it sounds better. A lot to learn about... Thanks!
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I am no „underground“ specialist ;-)
@santorcuato 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Sure!!!
@fitybux4664 2 роки тому
Nothing wrong with using GPS (a received signal) and sharing with others that you are in encrypted communication with. There is a thing called being too paranoid restricting usability.
@EverydayRoadster 3 роки тому
Great, I started looking into LoRa mesh, this is a valuable hook for research.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Very good. And maybe you can even enhance it?
@mewintle 3 роки тому
I haven’t built any LORA projects yet (I have a long queue of projects) but I’ve loved learning about it from you in so many videos. The content is always so practical and concise. I’m amazed how you manage to fit so much into a short video without sounding rushed. Just perfect. Thank you.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you for your nice words. It probably takes a little longer on my side to save you some time. One man spends a little more and thousands can save a few minutes. That is what I strive for.
@garwoodgerdes5585 3 роки тому
That little hand hoovering over that smart phone had me sooooo confused!!!! Especially when I noticed the big hand holding the phone! WHAT is going on here lol, then my brain caught up.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
It was my little helper. He, of course, also has a little hand ;-)
@vocalpatriot 3 роки тому
the same thing happened to me!
@ericon.7015 3 роки тому
Cool project. One thing we have to have in mind is that there are people that will use that solution for the good and also there are people unfortunately use it for bad things. But was always like since we began to be technological species.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Similar as with knifes and these days, even lorries :-(
@unclerico4644 3 роки тому
This is a really dope project! Thanks for sharing and I get a kick out of the miniature hand lol
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad you like it!
@MGKday 3 роки тому
i've been dreaming about this kind of exact solution for years, even thought at some point on getting a radio amateur license ! now i see that...amazing ! my main concern would be the range....basically if no one is in my area, then it's bad luck...
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
As a HAM you have more opportunities, of course...
@cryptixdaemon7236 3 роки тому
It's making use of existing infrastructure, running as a layer on top of existing smart phones in the surrounding area. So this will not work where there are no other smart phones in the area.
@jeffthompson2464 3 роки тому
@@cryptixdaemon7236 Yeah but realistically, where on this planet are there no cellphones ??
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
The Smartphone uses Bluetooth to connect to the T-Beam. The T-Beams connect using LoRa. No infrastructure needed.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You can connect a keyboard to the t-beam
@Nerd2Ninja 3 роки тому
I've been in the decentralized community for a while. AtHoc networking is unreliable for the reasons you mentioned but also because lag increases with every hop regardless of distance. GoTenna mesh sought to solve this problem by allowing certain users to act as gateways and then its a matter of connecting gateways. The privacy issue is meant to be solved with encryption, but the low throughput of radio frequency usually encourages non complicated text data only. Althea mesh is more of a WiFi router and extender linking project and the mix of these two schools of thought (pocket radio and WiFi linked gateways) may be the best solution to a decentralized trust less network for we'll say protesters as an example.
@jeffthompson2464 3 роки тому
Yeah, protesters AND patriots !!
@Nerd2Ninja 3 роки тому
@@jeffthompson2464 You're getting me excited
@parishna4882 3 роки тому
@@jeffthompson2464 Patriots will know what they're doing. protestors will just yell at the sky and hope.
@salty_armorer4027 3 роки тому
@@parishna4882 I share in your sentiment, but I learned the hard way that you underestimate your enemy at your own peril. By their very nature these far left ideologies require gullible people with the intelligence to be able to understand the doctrine and boil it down to a simpler, more easily digested form for those with average to below average intelligence.
@parishna4882 3 роки тому
@@salty_armorer4027 They basify everything down to a nursery rhyme. I understand this. Kindergarten is where it should begin. by time they reach adulthood, a spanking should no longer be required. Just the fun it was always meant to be.
@sonofabippi 3 роки тому
The tiny white-gloved hand was a nice... ...touch.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you. It has quite a few fans on this channel ;-)
@LarryKapp1 3 роки тому
Thanks for another great video ! No other way I would be able to keep up with all these things.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you!
@Auxrad39 3 роки тому
Again a great Video , some of the members of our maker space have been talking about setting something like this up:) thank you for your effort and time Andreas
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Have fun with it!
@drmocm 3 роки тому
Damn you, now I have to go look for my T-Beams and flash them. :)
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
And the whole Sunday is gone ;-) P.S. Look at the version oaf the T-Beams. I had to order new ones. They had a first version which is very different. (version 0.7)
@Gabirell 3 роки тому
That's fantastic! Would love to try it...
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad you like it!
@markiprekmarikitangoprek6242 2 роки тому
thanks Andreas , this is what I've been looking for in my project
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
You are welcome!
@devrim-oguz 3 роки тому
That's like something I had in my mind for years. Thanks for sharing!
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are welcome!
@juangonzalez9848 3 роки тому
“No mass surveillance” followed by “you can see all your friends on a map” are kind of mutually exclusive no?
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
No. If you see them does not mean others see them, too.
@juangonzalez9848 3 роки тому
Andreas Spiess Social engineering, get into friend group of people with this tech. Be able to see all friends. Boom, surveillance. Just saying it’s a vulnerability. If it’s possible, someone will find a way to do it.
@raymondbiskner6885 3 роки тому
@@juangonzalez9848 1. Good luck being an outsider and getting into an inner circle of people paranoid enough to have literally built their own comms network. 2. By that logic, better not make any friends at all, lest they learn where you live due to a misguided moment of establishing a movie night at your house.
@jeffthompson2464 3 роки тому
@@raymondbiskner6885 There are ways to get into ANY group. Ask the cartels how they do it...
@juangonzalez9848 3 роки тому
Raymond Biskner If it exists, it can be found. If it can be found, it can be infiltrated. Multiple alphabet soup agencies exist to spy on everything that exists. Poor opsec to have it broadcast your location to anyone ever. There is no need for any of my friends to know where I am at any given time. I don’t even have find my iPhone on in the vague hope that it would be harder for someone to track me. When my boss showed me how he could see where his son, daughter, and wife were at any time I reconsidered why I need a smartphone. For now I still have it, but I sure don’t take it everywhere anymore. Now I keep a flip phone to make calls when I want to go incognito. Battery out and simple pay as you go plan. I love the idea of untraceable and uncrackable technology, but then y’all go and put a “here is all of your friends on a map” function like opsec doesn’t exist.
@douglasdavidmisascamacho3431 3 роки тому
Man this should be at the end of this decade one of the top techs of the century.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Maybe it will. We never know...
@JohnAllen-st1ll 3 роки тому
Excellent...!! What an awesome project...
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad you like it!
@pandarojodronero2919 3 роки тому
it would be interesting to connect the device to a home Wi-Fi router to share the features with any phone connected to your home network. this could also be an useful technology in case of riot/revolutions, natural disasters, solar flares, zombie apocalypse, etc
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
These devices can be used for many different scenarios, you are right.
@AwesomeCopper 2 роки тому
problem with the solar flare scenario, is unless you build a faraday casing (and at that it must be well built around the chipset only and not the antenna; may interfere with the transmission range overall), the chipset will most likely be destroyed from the EM burst.
@DaveSmith-cp5kj 2 роки тому
I do not consider this technology to be very secure. I would not treat it as an impregnable communication platform for conflicts, only an alternative when the normal telecommunication grid goes down.
@RTmadnesstoo 3 роки тому
Interesting! They are available on Amazon with the display attached.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Yes, I know. Also on the other platforms. But you have to solder the displays yourself. Mine came unsoldered.
@RTmadnesstoo 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess With all the shutdowns it takes months now to get items from Banggood or Aliexpress but only a week or so from Amazon
@arashfaryami 3 роки тому
I go in now but are o ii it in a while ini
@automationtechnologyclub 3 роки тому
This project has been on my list of cool projects for a while now - I placed an ordered over 3 months ago for a couple of the T-Beam boards, and still waiting. There are a number of these type of projects out there.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I liked this one because its integration into Smartphones... And it is maintained.
@ThermalWorld_ 3 роки тому
Andres you highlighted the project I had been thinking about for some time. thanks for showing the project everything is simplified now. in this way you can encrypt the texts of the sms before sending "obviously exchanging the encryption code in the hand with the person you want to communicate" for much more extreme security. Even if someone puts their noses on the network, they still cannot know what is written in the text message
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
The key is part of the group name.
@ThermalWorld_ 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Sorry Andreas you are right, I misunderstood what I meant. I meant to use an app in addition to encrypt the text in Wirlpool, Serpent, encryption before sending it in the dedicated App in mesh communication. That's why I said to exchange the key at hand to avoid the transmission of the key in the network mesh. Such a technique is also used in Walkie-talkie radios with text messages. Basically the generated strings of the encrypted text are sent as a normal message. if a stranger looked at the message he would only see strange strings that make no sense
@DonPavardenis 3 роки тому
Bitcoin, now this peer to peer communication device I can finally feel how world is changing :)
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Even as a Swiss I like to talk and not only to pay ;-)
@gorovitz 3 роки тому
Hmm, we can use this mesh network to transfer bitcoins.
@foxbox2879 3 роки тому
This seems more open to Sybil attacks than Bitcoin. With 2mb blocks we have radio. Can already send/receive emails over such..
@lawrencecole6527 3 роки тому
Cool projects ARE rare hahaha this is one gem =D thank you!
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad you liked it!
@silverian 3 роки тому
Thanks for interesting LoRa news!
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are welcome!
@tomtray6277 3 роки тому
I've been searching my entire for this type of video. Thanks for the video and the way explain things
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad it was helpful!
@doctordilanka 3 роки тому
Andreas sounds like a young Werner Herzog LMFAO - great video my friend
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
We all speak a germanic language as a base. Arnold Schwarzenegger too...
@zachjohnson818 3 роки тому
Love how he says, "it's a no brainer". I have a respectably high, IQ and this is definitely a big brain project. Very interesting, especially since it's a stem discipline in which I am not very well educated. I also have a comms project in the back of my head that I have pondered on how to execute a few times over the years.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are right. The whole project is not simple.
@fullsolutionslab 3 роки тому
Yeahhhhhh!!! Our Andreas rocks!! :) Thanks a lot for sharing your experience and knowledge with us. You are realy awesome!! :)
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
My pleasure!!
@jackass315 3 роки тому
ive been following this idea for a while , with increased density and efficiancy i can see this even turning into a potential floating free internet reminiscent of ham radio fascinating stuff
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
The data rate is extremely low.
@RedMageGaming 3 роки тому
I've been looking for something similar to this for my cyberdeck build.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
:-)
@jedimasternoob 3 роки тому
this could easily be used during war time with proper encryptions.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I assume they have better (and more expensive) devices.
@jedimasternoob 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess of course they do!! While I was in(radio op/maintainer) they had radio arrays that made this look like smacking two sticks together. I am saying on a large, low budget scale, these could easily be used by gorilla fighters to keep a semblance of organization. I would be surprised if these weren't completely outlawed in the states if the gov couldn't easily find a way to break said encryption.
@_R_E_D_A_C_T_E_D_ 3 роки тому
Joshua Williams While it will be easily decrypted by feds if they wanted too you would just have to go back to using code words for things. I’ve used radio SOP’s on un-encrypted frequencies that would take people a long time to decrypt. One paper on each end, for example: Resupply = AX21, Pick up point= AX45 etc. only need to encrypt key words and words that has essential meaning to the message. Group words in the same category together for easy decryption/encryption.
@_R_E_D_A_C_T_E_D_ 3 роки тому
Joshua Williams I’m rambling a bit but I’m sure you catch what I’m putting out :). Have used this method of encryption when being forced to use un-encrypted nets such as civilian radios or phones
@PatrickKQ4HBD 3 роки тому
This is USA specific, but I imagine that it applies to many other countries too. I heard recently via another YT channel that ANY type of code words or encryption are illegal on ALL publicly available radio bands. Laws are tricky.
@chadf6900 3 роки тому
Very well done. I appreciate your video formats
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you!
@PhG1961 3 роки тому
Awesome ! Really interesting and worth experimenting !
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
For many of us it is probably more an experiment than a real usage.
@Suicidekings_ 3 роки тому
I'd imagine you could hard wire this into a home or vehicles power source to allow for direct communications.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
They also build solar powered repeaters.
@user-yw9yz3sp2k 3 роки тому
Hello Andreas. I'm watching from a long time to your videos and I enjoy your professional styles . Especially because I'm a professional board design engineer with a lot of experience and I'm working and designing complex pcb boards. I don't have the opportunity to write to you in order to express my admiration but now I have a question so I used the opportunity to say you how much I like your channel. So now the question. I like the idea of the project from this video and also I know the M5stack project. They have there a Lora stack and ESP32. And now they have a new kit, M5stack faces that look very close to a communication device. So from what I understand will be now problem to make the Lora mesh communication with a M5stack faces and added Lora stack. So what you think about this idea ? If you think it can be possible maybe you can do a video about what to order and how to assemble and program a device like that. What you think about it?
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
The Meshtastic projects supports several architectures (this is easy with PlatformIO). So you for sure you have to define the pins used for the LoRa module and maybe change the LCD, if M5stack uses a different one. But it should not be a huge task. All LoRa modulesw seem to be supported. For the moment I do not plan another video about tis project.
@poclab 3 роки тому
I had the same idea a year ago, great to see that smb implementing all that stuff to life, so cool.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Now it is easier for you...
@fitybux4664 2 роки тому
You probably have slightly different ideas that exactly what Meshtastic is doing. (Everyone does.) This is where open source is great! Do those ideas and share!
@1974charrua 3 роки тому
Intresting project , i can see how huge transmitting distance and unlimitted power supply can easily be added to this device .
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Unfortunately, it will not be legal if you do so.
@the_hwyman 3 роки тому
It would be cool to integrate this with ATAK.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Maybe you join their project team?
@BriceHughes 3 роки тому
Now that ATAK is open source, I'm trying to do just that.
@lewerim 3 роки тому
Yeees!
@Lord_RavnFar_Tannerwise 3 роки тому
They guys on github that created the "freetak" server are working on that and attempting to build it into their server code to be compatible!
@the_luminary 3 роки тому
Seriously though, we need more of these kinds of technology more than ever before with all these censorship going on. Its about time we decentralize our need from the megalithic telecom industry. Who agrees?
@sophiesmith5922 2 роки тому
but no one sensors your text messages to and from family and friends, which is all this does. Good to not be spied on by Apple/Google/Amazon, but you have to disconnect all Google apps etc or use different OS not android or ios
@the_luminary 2 роки тому
@@sophiesmith5922 hm. Right. Well do u have an alternative?
@paulussantosowidjaja93 2 роки тому
Wow! Will this be our self-reliance kind of BlockChain electronic decentralized communication? Great, we are going to be like those fellow ETs! God bless this project.
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
:-)
@GlennHamblin 3 роки тому
Pretty darn cool. Already thinking of a cross town mesh.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Depends on how big your town is...
@TeamRosengarten 3 роки тому
I wish I saw this Video, before I created something similar then this… I also created a mesh implementation, which has the same Features, but it runs on an Arduino Nano...
@achromatic.771 3 роки тому
Oh, interesting, is the code uploaded somewhere?
@TeamRosengarten 3 роки тому
Search Facebook for TR - Link... I have an OTA installer for esp32's... The code itself is not public...
@IndianaDundee 3 роки тому
Where can I find a “plug and play” version? One I can buy and use, no assembly required?
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I heard that TTGO sells a version with firmware. But I think it is not a product like a Smartphone which just works.
@gianlucagatti4576 2 роки тому
Nice subject! Thanks for your video.
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
You are welcome!
@sgsudhir_ 3 роки тому
Hmm Informative one. Thanks for sharing
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
My pleasure
@btkramer 3 роки тому
I still don't understand how these work underground :)
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Just burry one ;-)
@Morcego538 3 роки тому
"No mass surveillance" but you need to use your smartphone...
@miguelburgueno4891 3 роки тому
...exactly. I don´t like "smartphones". They are "too smart", IMHO... ;)
@screwthishi5thing 3 роки тому
It can be a disconnected bricked phone. It only works as message input and output because it has a keyboard...
@salty_armorer4027 3 роки тому
@@screwthishi5thing How does that work?
@screwthishi5thing 3 роки тому
@@salty_armorer4027 how would someone track you if you're not connected to a regular cellular network? They couldn't. You'd only be using your phone as a terminal for the mesh.
@salty_armorer4027 3 роки тому
@@screwthishi5thing I'm under the impression that a bricked phone can't do anything except 911 calls, so how do you get the app required for proper function downloaded onto to a bricked phone?
@Breakthematrix78 3 роки тому
I wish I understand stool all the nuts and bolts. The idea is brilliant! Keep up the innovation I would love to see this Takeover
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad you like it!
@atranimecs 2 роки тому
The cool part about this is the encryption aspect vs. traditional radio communications that can be overheard by anyone. Would be awesome if there was a low bandwidth audio protocol with client-side decompression used by the app.
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
These ISM bands are for sensors and not for voice coms. There are other bands for that. And LoRa is nor fast enough for voice in most of the cases :-(
@surviveandstrive6436 3 роки тому
The fact that they be were made in silly con valley is concerning.
@thorc.f1947 3 роки тому
The source code is open and there are a lot of options for hardware. So where is the concern?
@velwheel3135 3 роки тому
If Sexycyborge is interested is the CCP also involved?
@darkmatter5310 3 роки тому
Fantastic, well explained, love concept.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad you liked it!
@julyseng5653 2 роки тому
Thank you for enlightenment that we have this technology.
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
You are welcome!
@Calccis 3 роки тому
Do you need to share your location with this? "Hard to track"
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
No
@parishna4882 3 роки тому
as far as i could tell, if you don't have your gps on, the device defaults to it's own location. It only shares your absolute location if you intend it to? I could be wrong though....
@KJ-xt3yu 3 роки тому
In the configs you can also look into changing the hardware utilization...i mean you own the hardware, why not do some debugging and test it and let us know ;)
@kenteno822 3 роки тому
Brilliant. You might want to speak with " Lee Wheelbarger inventor". He's working with this kind of tech. He designed built heads up displays and Commo for military.
@YigalBZ 3 роки тому
Great video, very educating. I hope to see the NRF video soon.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
NRF?
@YigalBZ 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess nRF52
@svenjohnson2389 3 роки тому
I seem to recall this concept being called village radio. This was before SMS, so now with texting, this strategy could work well.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are right. The mesh is not new. But this implementation is interesting because of its reach and cost.
@victortorres2080 3 роки тому
Friend, very good video, first-rate information, thanks for sharing.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Glad it was helpful!
@Gandalf-490 3 роки тому
You are amazing. I love your videos. I wish you all the best and I am waiting for next videos :)
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you!
@D.E.Middleton 3 роки тому
That’s just how I would do it. Nice work.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you!
@lawpickinglocksmith7689 3 роки тому
Awesome! Reminds me a bit of Packet Radio, just a bit more modern. There we used to set up bulletin boards, burned 27 series eeproms where I had to import a writer from the US and build my own eraser. If it goes over the net it will connect the world. Locally since you are in a valley the town of Hellstone may reach Mount Lampen. Say you call Rene Lutz, you will need some repeaters or nodes they call them. About half our radio club members have DMR to Wifi boxes. The DMR voice sounds horrible. For text only my all time favourite was Amtor! I even changed to a shorter call sign so I could call from VKHB VKHB...
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are right. A lot of things come back in different forms. But: I use DMR and it sounds great for me. Even made som DX to the US and Japan out of my basement ;-)
@lawpickinglocksmith7689 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess If you used the internet in between it is not really dx. When I lived south of Cairns I could make most of the world in short path on 20 m. Perfect for Amtor. Then I had a much better QTH with 220 degrees view. But strange most dx worked over the long path and Amtor ARQ kept colliding. Pactor never was really the same. Our club is now way under 10 members and we not only lost our DMR repeater but all the good hill locations. Would be nice to have a network independent from the internet and mobile phone system.
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
The DX was a joke! First I also wondered if it still is HAM radio. But the people are the same on DMR as on the other bands. So it is different from Skype or Zoom. I would not meet those people by chance.
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