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Andreas Spiess

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IKEA hacks are famous. In this video, I ask myself which IKEA products a typical Maker can use for his projects. Of course, I will show you which one I own and how I use them. And I will share a discovery with you.
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@SudaNIm103
@SudaNIm103 3 роки тому
I’m glad those containers worked out for you. When creating a sealed envelope for longterm outdoor use; the seals need to be able to resist the change in pressure differential that can result from thermal cycling. Even small leaks can result in a “pumping” phenomenon. During the day the air inside the envelope is heated increasing the internal pressure. Often a seal meant to keep water out may do little to keep air in; such weak seals or other small leaks can result in some of the internal air being ‘burped’ out. This isn’t directly problematic, but overtime when the air cools down it can result in a small vacuum pressure. This negative pressure will continue to slowly build up until humid air or even liquid water is sucked in through tiny leaks or the enclosure is manually opened. This process can be driven forward by a subsequent factor; humid air draw into the container will tend to condense, early in the day and pool in the bottom of the container. Some of this water will evaporate during the day (now ensuring the internal humidity stays around 100%) Though some will escape during subsequent “burps” in general the liquid water will tend to accumulate. Under the right circumstances in the right environment a truly shocking amount of water can accumulate this way. As mentioned desiccants can mitigate the problem in some applications. Where I live in Florida, and other humid places desiccants alone might be a lost cause; even exacerbating the problem. In the end I find it’s best to evaluate whether you really require a sealed enclosure. If not make sure it can breath and drain. If you are going to seal an enclosure make sure it can resist egress as well as ingress.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Many viewers pointed to that problem. So far ir was ok for me. But I decided to setup a comparison for the different methods. Maybe we can learn something...
@anuspotatus6253
@anuspotatus6253 3 роки тому
Maybe filling the void with white plastic airsoft BBs would take up enough volume that the expansion and contraction of the remaining air would be negligible. Probably would help with the temps too.
@sebastian-sarbu
@sebastian-sarbu 3 роки тому
What if you filed the enclosure with white cotton? The color will reflect the light, so heat will not be an issue. It also does not expand and absorb any moisture inside
@emilalmberg1096
@emilalmberg1096 3 роки тому
Here is the logic behind the names of Ikea's furniture: Bathroom items = Name of Swedish lakes and water connection Bedding = Flowers and plants Beds, wardrobes, hall furniture = Places in Norway Bookshelves = Occupations and Scandinavian boy names Bowls, vases, candles and candle holders = Swedish places, adjectives, spices, herbs, fruits and berries Boxes, wall decorations, paintings and frames, clocks = Swedish slang terms, Swedish places Children's products = Mammals, birds, adjectives Desks, chairs, swivel chairs = Scandinavian boy names Fabrics, curtains = Scandinavian girl names Garden furniture = Scandinavian islands Kitchen accessories = Fish, mushrooms and adjectives Light = Units of measurement, seasons, months, days, shipping and nautical terms, Swedish place names Carpets = Danish place names Sofas, armchairs, chairs and dining tables = Swedish place names
@veryboringname.
@veryboringname. 3 роки тому
Hmm, I don't see the logic. Bookshelves are named after Scandinavian boys? Children's products are named after mammals, birds, and adjectives? Garden furniture is named after islands?
@emilalmberg1096
@emilalmberg1096 3 роки тому
@@veryboringname. Yes, Molger is a boys name, måla is to paint, Tärnö is an island.
@AdityaMehendale
@AdityaMehendale 3 роки тому
..Carpets because .. you walk all over them? I'll never understand the Swedish/Danish pseudo-rivalry ;)
@emilalmberg1096
@emilalmberg1096 3 роки тому
@@AdityaMehendale Like sibling love...
@emilalmberg1096
@emilalmberg1096 3 роки тому
@@UnCoolDad DOMBÅS is a municipality in Norway ...
@abhaysbharadwaj
@abhaysbharadwaj 3 роки тому
Dear Andreas.. you can look at something called "IP68 waterproof vent plugs". I use these in my projects and they are perfect for temperature dessipation as well as avoiding condensation from happening due to non movement of air. You get them in ABS like material with a silicone 'O' ring and backnut screw to mount it on any flat surface with a hole.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thanks for the tip. I ordered a few ot them and will start a comparison with the sealed box.
@joelong9260
@joelong9260 3 роки тому
These vent plugs have been used in tower top electronics in the radio industry for some time but recently some manufacturers are moving to goretex patches. These work just as well and are far easier to apply during manufacturing. I have used Goretex repair kits to provide this sort of breathing. It won’t allow much heat exchange but it does stop moisture being sucked into a sealed box as it temperature cycles. This is normally the main culprit for moisture ingress in a sealed enclosure. It kind of sounds counter intuitive but a sealed box must have a breather hole to stop moisture entering. You just need to be clever about where the hole is and what is used to cover it
@alexbristol5199
@alexbristol5199 3 роки тому
@@joelong9260 Joe, I think you are right, as I have seen small holes at the bottom of some car light lenses, and of course Andreas car lights are boxes designed to let light transfer just like your needs. From my experience it is always best to assume all seals will fail one day for example wear and tear, dirt, etc. and rather than spend lots of time, money and worry making sure it is fully waterproof better to work on the bases a little water might get in so map what paths it will take and build in drainage hole/s and keep sensitive items away from the water paths. Keep up the excellent videos Andreas.
@headbanger1428
@headbanger1428 3 роки тому
@@joelong9260 You made me think of the filters and silica pack inside of a spinning media hard disk drive. The filters, I imagine, should be rated for the same dust ingress value as the clean room that made the hard disk. I’ve never given any thought as to their management of water vapor though, but I think it’s safe for us to assume it’s factored into the design and application of these filters and silica pack. I don’t think a hard disk drive exceeds 75C though 🤔
@AlexGoris
@AlexGoris 3 роки тому
Thanks Andreas, I really enjoyed watching this. My lab starts getting more and more of a mess, but each time I want to reoganise things I spend too much time thinking about what should go where and eventually just give up. These type of video's help getting some insight into how other people are organizing their labs.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Simpler concepts applied are better than perfect concepts in the head ;-)
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 3 роки тому
I've needed to change my storage concepts a number of times, due to change of address and also what is my "active usage". I have some suggestions: a) Don't commit to a certain concept, but rather implement solutions that are extremely flexible. b) Find low cost storage boxes that you can source for many years. That means name brands, rather than random selections. In that way, you can easily add more. c) For components and hardware, use various solutions based on dimensions. Plastic test tubes and mini vials with lid (scrapbooking), pharmacy pill bottles, fishing tackle boxes. d) Removable inserts in compartment boxes sounds good, but often they pop out and contents get mixed. So I use vials and place those inside the comparment boxes. e) Put all the sorted parts into drawers. I use one drawer for resistors, one for capacitors, one for LED, one for semiconductors, another for modules, etc. It's better to have a part empty drawer than to mix things and need to rummage. f) Label all containers on 4 sides AND the top.
@Rob2
@Rob2 3 роки тому
Be aware that polyproylene is not resistant to UV and deteriorates when placed outdoors in the sun! I used a polypropylene sandwich box to house an L-band patch antenna and placed it on the roof. It was not IKEA but another known brand SISTEMA who make attractive boxes that are tempting to use for this purpose. However, after a year on the roof I took it down (as the satellite service I used it for was terminated) and the box crumbled in my hands. It had not leaked yet, but I think had it been out another winter season it would have cracked and leaked. And this was in the Netherlands, quite similar to Switzerland w.r.t. sunshine I think.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
In my setup the plastic lid is below the glass. And glass seems to reduce the UV considerably. Even if I have to replace the lid after a certain time it will not cost an arm and a leg. The "professional" box, BTW, also was no more transparent after a summer of usage. The glass so far did not suffer at all.
@Rob2
@Rob2 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Yes of course glass is perfect for this, it will still be there after 100 years. Indeed having the glass above the plastic bottom will help a lot. I also should have used a glass container. But you also showed full plastic boxes and those will certainly have problems outside even after relatively short time. The glass bowl with glass lid is best but of course unpractical when there are cables running out of it.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
My intention is to use plastic where it is not in the sun. This is why I was so happy to find a "project box" of glas.
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 3 роки тому
Coat of paint will probably solve that.
@wktodd
@wktodd 3 роки тому
For masking sunlight, try aluminium foil tape (used for duct sealing etc.)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Good idea. Thanks!
@kitecattestecke2303
@kitecattestecke2303 3 роки тому
Black spray paint on the inside of the boxes also absorbs light nicely and gives out some heat
@mickn6619
@mickn6619 3 роки тому
you could also use ncr rescue blanket
@spidermila
@spidermila 3 роки тому
that might help but it might not be sufficient. there should be a way how to build a passive heat exchanger but then the sealing of the box becomes a problem again.
@someonesays8022
@someonesays8022 3 роки тому
Thank you for showing the used solar panel. I had plans to use the same ones in a project and I will now protect them with glass.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
There are a few other proposals in the comments.
@someonesays8022
@someonesays8022 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Thank you, I have read them after your comment. Probably I will try glass first, since I already have a thin glass pane from a broken scanner.
@PhG1961
@PhG1961 3 роки тому
I recognize the bamboo drawer inserts... I like them too. As a maker, (almost) all Ikea products are suitable for dual use. So is almost everything else.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Maybe I do not have enough of fantasy ;-)
@PhG1961
@PhG1961 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Looking back at all your videos... I doubt that a little... ;-)
@craiglarson2346
@craiglarson2346 3 роки тому
Thanks for another provolking video. IKEA is everywhere! I love cross purposing stuff. For example, I have been using my 18V Ryobi battery packs from yard equipment, saws, and drills, for powering an nicrome-wire igniters that sets off a waterproofed firecracker that I place in mole hills in the grass. A vibration sensor senses the activity. The sensor signal goes through a MCU for verification, the MCU/transistor/relay then discharge the firecracker. Too much fun.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Sounds really like a fun project. These power packs are also on my list for a portable power supply. I have a 20V/4Aah one from Lidl (which is probably not yet everywhere)
@craiglarson2346
@craiglarson2346 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess I think I remember the Lidl name as a quality chainsaw company from long ago (available on the Pacific Coast, US, 1970's). For me, the key to using the powerpacks for other purposes was to find the clips that are used in the chargers. That way I could get a solid connection. For my batteries, the clips were cheap and easy to find. That might help your portable power supply. The high current available from these batteries was the other key. I just hope the momentary current spike (~2A) doesn't harm the batteries as they are costly.
@ItsBeJade
@ItsBeJade 3 роки тому
I love to use IKEA shelves and plant growing lights. I never thought to use their containers.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I also have some shelves from them!
@gordslater
@gordslater 3 роки тому
Ikea Lack square tables (the yellow one at the end) also make good 19 inch racks, though you may need to support very heavy equipments at the rear by using offcuts of hardboard sheets stacked in between items - the legs are relatively weak as they are hollow except at the ends but will easily support network switchers and routers. For taller racks you can drill the ends of the legs and glue in dowels (I used a short piece of M6 threaded rod) and drill a corresponding hole in the lower tabletop - this prevents disasters because the upper table will slide on the lower one otherwise. You can then place very heavy equipment direct on the tabletop, where it can slide in/out easier. Cut a sheet of hardboard to make a liner to assist sliding - or the tabletop may be scratched by the nutserts and screws on the equipment case. Stacks 3 or 4 tabes high are possible if you put the lighter equipment at the top.
@LimbaZero
@LimbaZero 3 роки тому
I think these were called "lack racks"
@Terapeutrik
@Terapeutrik 3 роки тому
Thanks, I just was thinking on how to do my home lab for cheap !
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
True, I found a few googling "lack racks"
@hesspet
@hesspet 3 роки тому
Better Racks: RAST. See my other posting :-)
@mrwho30
@mrwho30 3 роки тому
AFAIK, Ikea changed the LACK table. The legs are not any longer stuffed/made of compressed wood, but of paper. Makes the use of dowels impossible. :(
@jean-marcparatte5564
@jean-marcparatte5564 3 роки тому
The "kitchen line" is a very good idea. Thanks. I'm using the IVAR system for selves.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
IVAR also have a good price-performance!
@rklauco
@rklauco 3 роки тому
My favorite: kitchen knife magnets. I use them for screwdrivers, drillbits, ... Mounted them to ikea shelf and enjoy them ever since. Even printed hex-shaped holder to hold drillbit inserts.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Good idea! I assume you talk about KUNGSFORS
@rklauco
@rklauco 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Yes, this one: www.ikea.com/ch/de/p/kungsfors-magnetleiste-edelstahl-40334921/ It's great for holding bits, hex inserts, everything. And the price is simply great.
@adameichler
@adameichler 3 роки тому
perfect in combination with SKÅDIS (wall mounted tool organizer) and 3D printed hooks from thingiverse :)
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 3 роки тому
I take it you dont drill much ferrous metal, magnetized drill bits are annoying.
@rklauco
@rklauco 3 роки тому
@@Broken_Yugo You are 100% right - absolute vast majority plastics, rarely aluminum.
@alainkovacs2007
@alainkovacs2007 3 роки тому
Hi Andreas! Thank you for all your videos and amazing work! To cool the batteries, or anything else for that matter, I believe that you could use the glass itself like a heatsink. By having the enclosure printed in white inside as you do, I honestly doubt that the temperature of the glass would go more than a few degrees centigrade above the ambient temperature, even on a very hot day... but again, it would depend on quite a few factors.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
The Lacuna board has a built-in temperature sensor. So I should be able to monitor the temperature also next summer. It would not be easy to use the glass as a heatsink because it does not have a lot of flat areas on the side. But I agree, it will be cooled by the surrounding air. And teh top is used by the antenna and the panel.
@3rd_Millennium_Engineering
@3rd_Millennium_Engineering 3 роки тому
Yet again! A great and informative video. Thank you, Andreas.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
My pleasure! Some people asked about the case when I showed the light sensor. So I thought I can show it and extend the topic a little...
@drmocm
@drmocm 3 роки тому
Very nice video. I also have a room full of modified Lack tables and Samla containers. I did not know about the nice drawers and the smaller containers and I have to commend you on your bravery for besting the IKEA labyrinth. I haven't done that in a while and just order from their online store.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I probably would not have discovered the glass boxes online. They were promoting them and I nearly fell over them ;-)
@beamer.electronics
@beamer.electronics 3 роки тому
Being on a tighter budget, I use thoroughly washed TakeAway boxes (polypropylene), for my UKposts projects and storage - they are throwaway free. Just make sure they've only held boiled rice, spring rolls or dumplings etc., in their former life otherwise, you'll never get rid of the stain/aroma ;) I'm certain IKEA would endorse this perspective - it's a very green.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Some other commenters use similar boxes. For sure a good idea!
@chuxxsss
@chuxxsss 3 роки тому
Evening from Australia. Andreas now gold this weekend. You could use a desiccant valve with a one way valve so any moisture will vent out of the project.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
This will be my last resort. For the moment I do not have any holes and had no problems with humidity.
@chuxxsss
@chuxxsss 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Glass cutting any one.
@chrisdillon9848
@chrisdillon9848 3 роки тому
The meatballs are great. The market hall is a great place for a hack. The Tropfest as a bench drill press is a cool feature in my workshop
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
:-)
@Neuromanager
@Neuromanager 3 роки тому
Hey, thank you for the IKEA ideas. I'll have a close look on the "kitchen" ones, METOD, as it seems the perfect solution for my needs. One comment about those small weather worn solar panels. I regularly clean the surface of those solar panels used with garden solar lights (and solar Christmas lights as well) with Methylated spirits (alcohol) or Metho in Australia available in hardware shops. It seems to dissolve or at least soften the plastic surface but it does get an absolute perfect clean surface. They look as new. It works for us.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I tried isopropyl and other stuff. We also have such garden lights. ours use an additional material in front of the panels which is easier to clean.
@gurudattapanda
@gurudattapanda 3 роки тому
One can close eyes and listen to what he says. Much comprehensive and narrative.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you!
@MrAdi2500
@MrAdi2500 3 роки тому
For small projects, like an esp8266 based neopixel controller with lets say temperature sensors or relays or any other switched appliance, i like to use the boxes that gets used for home eletrical wiring from the home improvement store. You get different sizes, can cut a few holes in it, mount it easier to a surface and theyre also cheap and commonly available. All my smarthome node that i built myself are in such a box. Except the rgb controller in my PC, thats just mounted inside the case. I used also one to stuff my wago terminals for their wiring (seperate 5v for the appliances, 5 standy for the controllers, ground all from an old atx psu) on my desk in, so it looks a bit less messy.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
These are great boxes if you do not need transparency. And the price-performance is very good!
@MikesTropicalTech
@MikesTropicalTech 3 роки тому
I have a very large plastic bin with a snap lid like that, that I use to hold 4 spools of filament for my 3d printer. Each filament has a just-tight-enough bung to feed to the printer, the others covered in tape when not needed.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Good idea. I reduced my number of open spools and do not do any precautions. So far I had no big issues. But before, I had issues with old spools. Your system probably avoids that.
@loefstrand
@loefstrand 3 роки тому
Use a Gore-tex protective vent to equalize the pressure difference while blocking water getting in the container.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I ordered a few of them to compare different systems.
@lemd49
@lemd49 3 роки тому
Great video!! Here area my favorite from Ikea Spain: I use the LADDA/Alcalist/CR32 batteries, power bank, 103.115.96 great for keeping all spugers/small tools, 102.891.14 to store RTL-STR and leads, gliss transparent boxes for components etc (just came back super cheap), 600.940.72 coloured trays/bins for work in progress or bring small tools and measurement equipment to site of failed equipment. Still looking for the radio controlled clock you showed. I guess Madrid is too far from DCF77 (1000 km), but I am able to sync with my wx station (guess Ikea don't want to field service complaints if nor working reliably). Thanks for the tips on the new containers, looking really good.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I think you discovered good products. Unfortunately I did not find a way to search for product numbers on the IKEA page :-(
@lemd49
@lemd49 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Yes you are right some references are no longer sold. pity.
@BjornV1976
@BjornV1976 3 роки тому
I like the batteries, also the USB cables are very good. The tradfri panels light my work bench. plenty of boxes and the Besta cabinets for storage.
@adameichler
@adameichler 3 роки тому
unfortunately, the USB-C connector sometimes breaks off. Have 3 cables destroyed like that.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
The Besta looks nice!
@PhillipHilton
@PhillipHilton 2 роки тому
Well said sir! You hit it right on the head there. Build verses buy. Ikea's price to performance is phenomenal. I've created 8 RU audio racks using their (sadly discontinued) Rast bedside table. Most recently I've used the super cheap Himmlesby frames for my eink poster projects. Additionally, can I recommend the Fixa box for cheap cable management solutions. Ikea gear is cheap, well made and easily hackable.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
Thank you for the Fixa tip!
@amadeussorro797
@amadeussorro797 3 роки тому
Thank you for your video. About Ikea batteries, I currently use AA and AAA ones, good capacity and low price. On the other hand I tried to use CR2032 buttons batteries and I found them very bad quality, specially about the using time that is very short comparing to same price products. I used them in an Ikea product (Tradfri switches and remote). For the TRADFRI line of products, most of them work fine: bulbs, remote, gateway and switch with magnetic sensor don't really work. Enjoy.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I have to test the CR2032 batteries. So far they seem to be ok for my applications (e.g. car key)
@wjn777
@wjn777 3 роки тому
Great video. I love those glass bottom containers, they are much better in terms of discolouration resistance compared to plastic. Their USB chargers are also great quality. I do wonder how does one mount your parts inside if you don't have a 3D printer, perhaps plastic stand-offs with double sided tape?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I glued the parts to the bottom in the case of the satellite station. And the solar panel on the top of the battery.
@richsadowsky8580
@richsadowsky8580 2 роки тому
Andreas, I am sorry to say I have never been to an Ikea store. I have used some of their products when employers during startup days used Ikea desks and furniture. I think your video may have convinced me to check one out. There is one south of Boston that is an hour or two away from me.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому
Here in Europe they are quite famous and well established. I think they started much later in the US. And in SA there is not one store... The glas containers still are ok so far.
@dubovac4
@dubovac4 3 роки тому
I use Tradfri zigbee lamp and other stuff over the conbee II gateway on raspbery pi 4. makes fun for an acceptable price.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
True. Or Zigbee2MQTT.
@pandersen7984
@pandersen7984 3 роки тому
One can use 2"×3"×8' boards to strengthen IKEA's Henje wooden pine storage racks to hold IT & server equipment as well and quite well too.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Interesting idea. Others also used the LACK table as a 19" rack...
@zhanzo
@zhanzo 3 роки тому
Isn't the glass borosilicate? If so, you can just use thermal paste to transfer heat to the "glass" from the components. Also, if you don't use IR, just use an optically transparent IR reflector, like those used in car windows.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Good idea with the IR reflection foils. I can cut out the IR sensor.
@mrmartinimo2299
@mrmartinimo2299 3 роки тому
Clever hacks and ideas. I will take some of them. Thank you :-)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are welcome!
@headbanger1428
@headbanger1428 3 роки тому
We find electrical boxes with clear plastic covers with IP67 protection for a bit over a euro. For a bit more, you might be able to source a larger unit. They have silicone nipples that you can cut as needed for routing cable, although your application seems self-contained. Very easy to open and close as well. Check your local or German electrical supply online. Yes, we bought online locally because it was cheaper like that but still came in-country. I think they’re made in Poland, which is no surprise because Poland seems to have very good cost and quality for injection molded parts. I have no idea why this is.
@Helli__
@Helli__ 3 роки тому
You're right Ikea is sometimes a good source. The next Ikea to me is literally just 5min away. I often go there for light bulbs etc.. When I have projects with many small parts I use the plastic tablets "tillgång" (1€/piece) to keep everything together while assembling etc.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Interesting idea. Never thought about that usage for tillgång.
@Helli__
@Helli__ 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess yes! I saw watchmakers who use small tablets to keep things together, carry them around etc.. I just adapted it, and it comes out really handy. You can also cut templates out of them or just sheets for baseplate, because it's quite sturdy plastic
@picontrol3482
@picontrol3482 3 роки тому
I created a small and cheap trolley for my workshop using IKEAs Alex, 4 wheels (Rill), handles for cables etc. (Lansa) and Småcker for the drawers. Very nice and less than 85€.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Nice/ Unfortunately I did not find Lansa in the Swiss IKEA shop.
@picontrol3482
@picontrol3482 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess I bought them ca 2 years back. Now they seem to run as „KALLRÖR“.
@BOMBERORAFA
@BOMBERORAFA 3 роки тому
Fantastic video Andreas!! Saludos desde España.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you!
@thinkhelpservice
@thinkhelpservice 3 роки тому
Hi Andreas, thanks for another great and interesting video - I think that using a double glass walled container like a thermos would serve you well would be a great experiment that I might even try myself
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Do you have a link for a double glass box for a reasonable price?
@thinkhelpservice
@thinkhelpservice 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess all the glass thermos containers are cylindrical designs but many have a large mouth opening - not sure if it’s suitable for your project but it would be interesting to see how it performs as a temperature isolation and RF signal transmission and reception
@homesystems5193
@homesystems5193 3 роки тому
Some great ideas where presented here! Just combine them... To release the heat, you possibly can replace the lid with an aluminum plate, reuse the seal and clamp it to the glass container with top and bottom aluminum beams across the container, joint with threaded rods and bolts... It remains sealed and has a built in heatsink! I would definitely cover the glass with some aluminum tape where you can.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Good idea with the aluminum back. After all teh comments I decided to do a comparison with different setups. We will see what happens.
@McTroyd
@McTroyd 3 роки тому
By far I'd have to say my favorite thing at IKEA are the Swedish meatballs. 😁 They come up with some pretty creative fixtures though (especially lights).
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are not the only meatball over on this channel ;-)
@tophlaw4274
@tophlaw4274 3 роки тому
Excellent ideas @Andreas, & definitely worth investigating if you're a maker. I've actually been using super cheap soap dishes for some of my boxes (sealed with hot glue). I am curious about the exposed boxes on your roof & in your garden. Specifically, I'm wondering if the plastic lids have held up to the weather since heat & cold can crack many plastics in my experience. Cheers & looking forward to your next project or tips!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
So far they survived winter. Becasue they are "protected" by the glas they get much less UV. So there is hope also for Summer...
@zerodegrekelvin2
@zerodegrekelvin2 3 роки тому
Very good idea! I probably find those box in our nearest Dollar store.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Well possible...
@VincentFischer
@VincentFischer 3 роки тому
I use 4 Lack tables stacked for my 3d printers and 3018 cnc. Very convenient and saves a lot of space
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Cool. I saved some space by selling my CNC ;-) It was no more used when I got my 3D printer.
@VincentFischer
@VincentFischer 3 роки тому
​@@AndreasSpiess I use mine almost exclusively for pcb prototype milling. but this feeling I could do xyz if i needed to is kind of soothing even though I probably never will. but very true, fdm 3d printing is the best thing since sliced bread for homegamer
@maesto
@maesto 3 роки тому
For power in/out you can easily drill a hole into the lid and use a cable gland for a waterproof connection. The battery box can be opaque and sit in the shadow.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I agree if I have the battery outside. This is probably the second-best solution for me. I still try to keep the "one box solution. We wlll see if I am successful or I have to chose hte second best solution
@pd8559
@pd8559 3 роки тому
My initial thought is to remove the battery from the container and the heat inside. I would have the glass near the edge of a structure such as a roof. I'd run a very short run of power leads outside the bottom of the container, use rubber grommets if worried about moisture. Then the battery can tuck under the roof edge into the shade protected from the direct sunlight. Build enclosure or hat for the battery if worried about water so it can drip down and off instead of flowing into the battery itself. Use the loop or bend trick on the leads before they connect to the battery so that any moisture buildup will through gravity collect at the loop bottom and drip off instead if traveling asking the wires to the battery.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
With two cases you get much more possibilities, you are right.
@MihaiCadariu
@MihaiCadariu 3 роки тому
I love those LADDA AA batteries. I'm powering my indoor temperature logger with them (3 x 1.2V) with a FireBeetle ESP32 board. I get 4 months runtimes out of a charge. Board wakes up from deep sleep every 15mins, then it connects to WIFI, reads temp sensors and uploads values to Google Drive.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
And the voltage is perfect for the ESP...
@divingquokka
@divingquokka 3 роки тому
An Ikea Gnedby CD cabinet, cut to half height and put on its side on my bench gives little compartments to put stuff in and lab bench PSU's and oscilloscope on top.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Good idea if you are space-constrained!
@ziggystardog
@ziggystardog 3 роки тому
Andreas, perhaps a passive heat sink or heat exchanger or peltier junction applied with heat conductive grease might help with your box's thermal issue. I make extensive use of Ikea kitchen organizers, especially the Sunnersta bins on rail system and children's dish and bowl sets and organizers to feed my animals, help with food preparation and as temporary part holders during disassembly of gear. The children's items are very cheap, colorful and mostly BPA free. Perhaps your cat would enjoy them.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I never looked at the Sunnersta system. Maybe I will have a try next time I am there...
@ziggystardog
@ziggystardog 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess they are handy for hanging on the edges of shelves and cabinets to have items close at hand like zip-ties and other consumables, I also sometimes put hand tools in them. The smaller bins stack and they are all removable and stand up on their own, so you can carry them to different benches or other locations or reorder or relabel them depending on the mission at hand. A downside is they can be top-heavy and fall over if they don’t have something to lean against. They also restrict access to drawers or shelves behind them. Worth a look to see if they work for you. Thank you for your always fresh ideas.
@oraszuletik
@oraszuletik 3 роки тому
I keep my SMDs in WenTai boxes from Ali. But I keep those boxes in a Kvissle tray box from IKEA. And of course, LADDA is king.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I also have such boxes for my through hole resistors. But they are too big for the Kvissle tray :-(
@gordslater
@gordslater 3 роки тому
I use takeaway food containers (intended for a single use) for boxes I will need into only rarely - the lids evntually split but they are economical, you can get 50 Satco brand (good quality, avoid the rest!) 500ml or 650ml for about 12 euros delivered. They will stack 8 high with light items before becoming too wobbly. Cheaper brands will last only 2 or 3 openings - beware. For very light use - short cut strips of SMD components - these tend to curve anyways and fit nicely- they will stack up to 16 high if you have shelves full of them alongside each other to give lateral support. The problem is the lids - they split easily with repeated opening. But for price they can't be beat especially for passives and mechanical components (they are far from ESD safe so drain the charge off everything before using) I use Ikea boxes and tubs for "rummage" boxes I will use every day - you need very good quality lids for those. edit: they are supplied "nested" with lids and bottoms in seperate stacks so 50 containers take up little space until deployed in use. Ebay search for SATCO Plastic Containers with Lids Takeaway
@ZsomborZsombibi
@ZsomborZsombibi 3 роки тому
My ultimate hack for cheap smd boards' protection is the lacquer spray. Waterproof on its own if you don't plan to replace the parts.
@EmmanuelLieurain
@EmmanuelLieurain 3 роки тому
Thanks Andreas!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are welcome!
@ovidiurosu6632
@ovidiurosu6632 3 роки тому
Thank you for keeping your videos relevant and diverse. When I watched today's video I was like "It's so obvious", but then again, I didn't think about these uses myself. Great job
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you. Glad you like them!
@themistoklisanastasiadis
@themistoklisanastasiadis 3 роки тому
idea for waterproof case and heat transfer. cut a hole in the polypropylene lid, epoxy or silicone (maybe even gasket maker) a heatsink, the larger the better. or use the silicone gasket that comes with the lid, and make an aluminum lid. print some clamps to keep the lid tight. you got yourself some pretty "cool" electronics right there ;)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I will do a comparison of hte different methods proposed by my viewers. A heatsink will be one of them.
@NoorquackerInd
@NoorquackerInd 3 роки тому
Andreas Spiess + GreatScott? We _NEED_ this crossover
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
:-)
@kyrrekar
@kyrrekar 3 роки тому
The pure definition of waterproof is that water that gets in will not get out.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
So far I had no humidity problem. But I monitor closely and act accordingly if I see it. I had lots of humidity in the plastic satellite box, BTW
@whiteblock8
@whiteblock8 3 роки тому
as part of your cooling put your project bix up on pilars , noticably taller one side than the other , this greatly assist convection cooling suggest shorter length at about 25 mm to allow sufficient flow. and to thermaly couple batteries to bottom of enclosier and insulate their top.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Good ideas! Thank you.
@christianmeinert8806
@christianmeinert8806 3 роки тому
Hi, good video as usual. 👌 I only see a problem if you use the Boxes upside down as water will stay in the lid. I use the (original) professional out door cases for years now for my sprinkler system with great success. It may depend on the quality of the polycarbonate if they get milky. I like the mounting points outside the containment. Wall mounted and horizontal installations does not show any leaks or milky front panel. I Always made sure that cables exit the case on the bottom through waterproof fittings (only use one fitting per one ROUND cable or waterproof connectors). You can get the BH1750 with a diffuser dome which can be easily sealed on top of the case.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Do you have a link for the boxes you use. Maybe I put one on my roof as a comparison. I wanted to avoid a plastic dome. This is why I liked when I found these glass boxes.
@christianmeinert8806
@christianmeinert8806 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess i bought them years ago from ELV - nowadays the offer Chinese cases (see drawing)- but as I remember they are form the German company Wöhr (www.industriegehaeuse.de/kunststoff-gehaeuse/ip65-ip68-gehaeuse/)
@christianmeinert8806
@christianmeinert8806 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess the Domes im my case are great to measure diffuse light better than direct spots and shadows.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thanks for the link. I do not know how much the dome "bends" light. Because my box is completely of glass, light reaches the sensors also now. But of course it is weaker if the angle is more shallow. But maybe this is also what I want.
@christianmeinert8806
@christianmeinert8806 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess the dome (should) work like in „professional“ lux meters enable the more the measurement of an integral from 180 degrees diffuse and direct light. (Sad that it is not possible to post pictures here)
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 3 роки тому
Add a heatshink to the lid.You have to cut the lid to make the hole for the sink. Sealing around the edges of the sink will make it water right again. Putting the PCB on a "gap pad" that is on the sink will keep it cool.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Thank you. I will try the heatsink next summer.
@effexon
@effexon 3 роки тому
When I saw Fight Club, I didnt expect Ikea stuff to be very popular among electronics use. That toilet paper holder is classic now for headsets and so on.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
IKEA videos usually are also quite successful on this channel...
@JuulCPH
@JuulCPH 3 роки тому
The reason your solar panel turned opaque (at least part off the reason) is that these cheap panels turns opaque in UV. The effect is supposed to be worst closer to the UVC range so putting them behind plastic or soda-lime or borosilicate glass will probably help protect them by blocking some of the really nasty UV but it will hurt your over-all efficiency more in the short term when the temperature rises since solar panel efficiency is reduced by high temperatures. It also also important to note that attempting to completely seal electronics meant to operate outdoors isn't necessarily a good idea. The reason is that you need to make your seal so good that it seals not just against rain but also needs to be fairly air tight. During the day the air will heat up and contain some humidity. If any of this air makes it into the container, then during the night when the temperature drops you will get condensation inside of the container. Then during the next day the condensed water will have a more difficult time evaporating because of the sealed container. This cycle can slowly build up water inside of the container when conditions are right. Often it is easier to simply have a container with a small drain hole toward the bottom, but you should put a filter here since the heat from the electronics can attract bugs. As you mention li-ion batteries are also problematic since they should never be charging when above 45 C. This is unfortunate since you end up with the hottest temperatures exactly when you would be getting the highest amount of energy from your solar panel. Using the solar panel as a shade for the electronics (including enclosure) is a good idea. I just don't think those resin solar panels are worth your time for outdoor use (and of course they don't work with normal indoor light sources). Look at ETFE panels if you don't like the glass solar panels (though finding very small ETFE panels can be difficult). Just be careful not to have ETFE panels in a situation where they can catch fire (e.g. near a Li-ion battery). ETFE is amazing in many ways but you really don't want to breathe ETFE smoke.
@Luke-san
@Luke-san 3 роки тому
About those cheap panels. I saw this on another YT video and tested it on mine here since I was polishing and sanding them every single couple of months until I could throw them away. I now cover them with helicopter tape (that's what they call it). Really cheap from some sources. All of my cheap panels (including those on 1 euro solar lights) have been clear for long time now.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
A lot of good information. Thank you! So far I can afford to experiment because both boxes are away from people and if they would burn, nothing happens. I am curious on how long the batteries will last. Maybe I try to do also a comparison with old NIMh. They seem to be less critical.
@krahaborowski
@krahaborowski 3 роки тому
For heat exchange, middle of the plastic lid should be cut off, and covered with a peace of aluminium plate, mounted with screws and sealant. Small heatsinks can be mounted inside and outside, with a small fan inside. That would transmit some of the heat outside, without sacrificing the seal. The problem is this plastic will not stick properly to any glue, so mounting the plate can be quite difficult.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I still dream of not letting too much heat in. But such heatsinks are my last resort!
@Uncle-Duncan-Shack
@Uncle-Duncan-Shack 3 роки тому
Here in SA it's Walmart or Leroy Merlin, however between those two one can get everything needed. To get Ikea stuff here we have to preorder with a local importer after choosing the product from the China website, huge hassle and expense. But Ikea does have good stuff, their furniture is very nice, however we pay a premium price for here. There's a local importer, and they stock the furniture products, and it's expensive. A six drawer set on castors is 310 dollars here, pricy for us.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I did not know they are not in SA. Strange...
@Uncle-Duncan-Shack
@Uncle-Duncan-Shack 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess If the cost and time spent getting their products is not an inconvenience, then it's available here. However they have to compete with the Walmart chain of stores here which are great. They have everything, so we use them. The market for a product like Ikea which is for us a specialty store, is small here. As it is Walmart had to close their techie store brand "Dion wired" here, for various reasons. It was essentially an Ikea like store, but by Walmart. They had nice stuff, but did not make a profit, for various reasons, mainly how they ran the show, etc.
@on4vrt
@on4vrt 3 роки тому
Andreas, Maybe you have to consider installing a Peltier element in the lid of the box. Thank you for all the nice ideas! 73 from Dirk ON4VRT
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Peltier elements use quite a lot of energy, I think. So you would need a much bigger solar panel and box.
@paulmooij
@paulmooij 3 роки тому
Thnx for Ikea batt tip will get some next time I’m in Ikea gr Amsterdam
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You will like the price-performance...
@vejl
@vejl 3 роки тому
I have always learned that you should add a minimum 8mm hole to all devices that should work outside. The reason behind is that the temperature difference causes air to move in and out of the box, together with moisture. The hole size is the minimum size where water can escape. Some offshore antennas, have a long pole attached to vent to the outside, and with splash proofing, so water from a hose does not enter.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Good point. For the moment I have no hole and had no problems with humidity. But I only have two seasons of experience...
@TOMTOM-nh3nl
@TOMTOM-nh3nl 3 роки тому
Thank You
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You're welcome
@anarchisttechsupport6644
@anarchisttechsupport6644 3 роки тому
Im also used to American brands having similar products, affordably. Whats produced closest to you is rarely going to be most expensive for you. As for heat issues - an old heatsink that punctures the plastic lid, sealed with RTV fireplace silicone will do the job. Then we just need a small fan or two, and a vented outer chamber. Cover the vents with tyvek (for moisture seal, but air exchange). If nothing else? White, high-end, disposable painters coveralls will probably be the right material. Now that I think about it, why bother with the heatsink? Perhaps a tyvek-filter-vented uni-chamber design would be sufficient. Just need two opposite sides vented to maximize airflow.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I have to stick to international brands on this channel. A sealed heatsink is for me the "last resort". Going with your paint proposal for the moment is more appealing for me.
@SchmurtzAlex
@SchmurtzAlex 3 роки тому
Ikea bamboo bowls to make beautiful original speakers 😄
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Great idea!!
@brainfornothing
@brainfornothing 3 роки тому
People here are talking about names of IKEA items, but maybe they don't know that is because, if I'm right, Ingvar Kamprad, IKEA's creator, was dyslexic, so those names were easier for him to remember (not for me, I'm not swedish, Hehehe ! ). About the repurposing of "things", I suppose that is mandatory when we don't have easy acces to materials and tools, we need use what is available, I do that a lot, but I used to do even more when young, today's marketplaces are like "El Dorado" for makers. Thanks for sharing !
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I completely agree about the "El dorado" for Makers!
@emmanuelr6698
@emmanuelr6698 3 роки тому
Hello Andreas, thanks again for sharing these nice ideas. Concerning heat exchange, why not use a metal plate that would go through the cover and seal it ?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I decided to do a comparison between the different proposed solutions. One will be a heat-sink solution.
@carstenk2552
@carstenk2552 3 роки тому
Regarding the temperature issue: we sometimes use dual heatsinks, one on the inside, one on the outside, but we mostly use metal housing. Maybe it is possible to implement it by cutting in the plastik lid and ad some alumimium sheet for the heat transfer and silicone caulking for the water resistance.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
That would be a good way to get heat out. I still dream of a possibility to avoid entering too much heat. And another viewer suggested to just take the battery out. Which also would be a viable solution.
@kaggez
@kaggez 3 роки тому
The table you use for the 3d printer. also works well as a 19" rack
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are right. LackRack!
@Giblet535
@Giblet535 3 роки тому
My light sensors are in a sealed test tube (borosilicate passes all relevant wavelengths), along with an aluminum rod that transfers the heat out of the tube without allowing any air exchange that could carry moisture inside the tube. The tube is covered with aluminum tape (used for sealing heating ducts) with windows cut for each sensor. I use shielded CAT5 cable to connect the sensors to a box that holds the electronics, which sits in the shade of its solar panel. Everything stays dry, and cool enough. So far.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
So you have either big test tubes of small sensor break-out boards. I only have quite small tubes. The general setup follows the same idea, to use glas for the part exposed to sun. I just wanted to extend it to a "one box" setup. But maybe I have to give up...
@Shim267
@Shim267 3 роки тому
I believe the same table you're using with your printer (I think its actually the Lack table from IKEA) is a near perfect fit for standard 19" rack mount equipment between its legs. Just google "IKEA table Rack" for more info; some of the setups are very impressive.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You are right. There are other comments about that.
@devjock
@devjock 3 роки тому
My hack: IKEA Bekvam Spice Racks comfortably hold 22 norelco cassette cases, and you can hang 'em on sloped ceilings. Perfect to reclaim some lost storage space due to the whole "Attic effect"..
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Cool, to reuse "old" technology!
@YoutubeBorkedMyOldHandle_why
@YoutubeBorkedMyOldHandle_why 3 роки тому
Probably I speak for everyone on this channel in saying that my house is filled with little inventions and hacks that I've created to solve one problem or another. Quite often I re-purpose some item, to serve a different purpose. I've never shopped at IKEA though, (since it's not too convenient.) So this is less about IKEA, and more about solving problems with the things we have available. Here's an idea you might consider, for some relatively cheap and easy video content: Ask people to submit photos/videos/descriptions etc. of some of their favourite modifications/hacks/inventions, which you could then compile into videos and present on your channel.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I think you are right with the small projects around our homes. Concerning sharing projects: I started the discord channel for my viewers to exchange ideas and projects. And quite some videos started with a proposal from a viewer... But I have to make sure the topic is interesting for a lot of people....
@ronm6585
@ronm6585 3 роки тому
Thank you.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You're welcome!
@diffmull
@diffmull 3 роки тому
IKEA frozen-food bags come in 4 sizes and are sturdy, easy to close and label. Great for grouping cables of the same type, and so on.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Innovative idea!
@richleyden6839
@richleyden6839 3 роки тому
Outdoor enclosures for electronics projects is a worthy topics for discussion and perhaps future episodes. Even many consumer grade outdoor devices fail due to poor design. My purchased rain gauge required repair after 2 years due to water corrosion of battery terminals and insect infestation. I've built many outdoor Rpi webcams using repurposed containers such as your showed in this video. Most worked better than not-so-cheap purchased camera enclosures. Right now, I'm considering putting a Jetson Nano outdoors but need to solve the heat dissipation issue you touched on. Running AI object detection means active fan cooling. I worry the relatively expensive Nano will not survive long with dust, insects, snow in the winter, 40C heat in the summer.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
After the many comments about sealing the box I decided to start a test with three versions: Sealed, with a hole, and with a IP68 ePTFE Membrane. I assume glass will be withstand UV better than plastic. If you have a lot of energy to dissipate you probably have to go with active cooling. So far I only have a Pi3 in my LoRa gateway. It works ok without any cooling, just sitting in its PVC tube.
@kitecattestecke2303
@kitecattestecke2303 3 роки тому
The 365+ series is older on IKEA shops. The 20Litre variant is perfect for two pla spools from the 3D printer.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I did not find a 20l model...
@HolgerBarske
@HolgerBarske 3 роки тому
Just a hint on polypropylene: although a wonderful material, it definitely doesn't like low temperatures: it gets brittle. Maybe this doesn't turn out to be a problem for you, as your outsinde stuff isn't moved around that much. But fore sure something to keep an eye on in winter, as this brittleness doesn't go away when temperatures rise again.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Good point! I only checked the max. temp of 100 degrees which was ok for me. But you are right, it will stay where it is. And the glas hopefully will survive the winter without a crack.
@ZsomborZsombibi
@ZsomborZsombibi 3 роки тому
I used to place mobile phone screen protector foils on solar panels. Annual change solves maintenance.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Good idea. And probably not too expensive.
@ZsomborZsombibi
@ZsomborZsombibi 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess yep. The cheapest does the job, no need for gorilla glass :)
@BenMitro
@BenMitro 3 роки тому
Interesting. We here in Australia have Ikea, but also Kmart who stock generally lower quality items but at a lower price.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
We do not have KMart here in Switzerland :-( The reason for the video is that IKEA seems to be pretty global. So most of my viewers have access to it.
@BenMitro
@BenMitro 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Yes, the idea of looking for alternative uses for products is a marvellous thing. As you said so well in the video.
@bonce
@bonce 3 роки тому
Two ideas for overheating, if it's just the batteries, mount them externally in another foiled container or as it is hermetically sealed, vacuum pump the internal space and seal it. With some of the atmosphere removed there is less to heat up.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Placing the batteries in a different place would for sure help. But I like the idea to only have one box.
@pmrpla
@pmrpla 3 роки тому
Motorcycle dashboards usually have a hole in the back covered with goretex, it allows air in for ventilation but mostly keeps the humidity out.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I ordered such parts and plan to do some tests.
@ufohunter3688
@ufohunter3688 3 роки тому
Dollarama in my area sell packs of birch plywood planks, dowels and some wooden project boxes for $2 a piece. For that price, I can't even buy the raw wood used to make the plywood, to build the box! Needless to say, I went nuts and bought 10 of everything.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
And wood boxes are better looking than plastic, at least for me!
@magikben
@magikben 3 роки тому
For projects that need to be sealed into an enclosure how about inductive power transfer like Qi to get power into the box to charge a supercapacitor. That way the box can be made light opaque and radio transparent reducing internal heat. An external solar power supply can drive the Qi or equivalent coils.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Good point. Reminds me to start playing with my coils sitting in one of the IKEA boxes ;-)
@darkknight8139
@darkknight8139 3 роки тому
Thanks for the great idea to use these food boxes for your projects :) I think they are indeed very good value. I am not fond of the alkaline batteries from Ikea, because they tend to leak just at their best before date. More than any Duracell or Varta battery will do. Alkalisk seems to be made in Germany, so they are most probably produced by Varta. And the CR2025 are the same, they may not leak but they drain a lot faster in my car key than the original Panasonic battery did. LADDA seems to be very good indeed. The LACK table at the end is always very useful, it only costs 6 euros here in The Netherlands.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
So far I had no bad experience with the batteries. Maybe because they have to replaced before they start to leak in my applications.
@Rob2
@Rob2 3 роки тому
A battery that leaks more than Duracell? I cannot believe that!
@darkknight8139
@darkknight8139 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess That could of course well be the case, thanks for you reply :) My experience is based mainly on four tv remote controls that were stored somewhere in the attic, with batteries still in it. I know, you shouldn't do that. Two of them had Ikea batteries, two had Duracell and some other brand I can't remember. After a couple of years, the two remotes with Ikea batteries were full of leaked battery, while the other batteries were still intact. And I recently found a pack in a drawer (two years after the best before date) with some unused batteries still in it. They all leaked horribly.
@mor4y
@mor4y 3 роки тому
I use a product called 'damp seal' in the UK for leaving a UV proof wax layer over anything you spray it on, great for seals on boxes, and good enough to last a few weeks in Scottish weather on a exposed solar panel Its not a wd40 or ptfe spray, its a wax spray designed for older style distributor-type ignition systems on cars, thats why its got such great UV resistance. Its also wonderful at stopping condensation on pipes! Just spray it on, it creates a barrier layer and condensation no longer forms 😁 Edit: out of every tech tip and little trick I know, that one about the damp seal and the pipes is probably the one that's got me the most thanks over the years..... its a problem that drives people crazy for years, they can spend a fortune trying to fix, then I swoop in and fix it in exchange for a cup of tea 😁
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I found the product. Not cheap around here because it seems to be a UK thing and has to be shipped from there. Where would I use it in my box?
@mor4y
@mor4y 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess I've used it around plastic box seals, and across any bare metal inside that might have condensation form on it during rapid temperature changes. The shielding plates on a lot of circuit boards for example.and the heat/UV resistance properties seem to keep it there for a long time. If you ask at a car garage that deals with classic cars they might point you to a local equivalent, i know extreme computer overclocking fans (liquid nitrogen setups) have something similar in a can they use to test setups, before covering their motherboards in vaseline for the extreme test!
@dragosmihai9410
@dragosmihai9410 3 роки тому
For outdoor boxes we ussualy drill one ore two holes at the lowest point to facilitate the box "breathing" thru night do to pressure changes from the temperature, thus the water is spitted out in the morning, the only problem is that the humidity is the same as outside. But there is no problem of water collection.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Many viewers suggested this method. Therefore I will place a second box with such a hole nearby and watch what happens.
@Richardincancale
@Richardincancale 3 роки тому
Having sealed boxes has the problem of ‘breathing’ as the air within heats and cools, sucking in humid air. We used Goretex breather plugs in our IP67 outdoor satellite modems where I worked, to allow breathing but keep out liquid water. They’re expensive, but they work!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Many other viewers also commented abut that fact. Maybe I will once have a look at it. For the moment I had no issues with humidity in my light sensor. But I check frequently because I fear it will start once...
@shanebekker
@shanebekker 3 роки тому
Did the refraction coefficient of the glass or box not effect the light/UV readings?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I did not do exact comparisons. Maybe I will do it once. The UV seems to be attenuated quite a lot. For the other sensors I still had to add an ND filter.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Regular glass blocks UV quite effectively, especially UV-C, which is why UV-C tubes use quartz instead of glass! (Same with old-school EPROMs: it’s a quartz window, not glass.)
@avejst
@avejst 3 роки тому
Interesting as always Thanks for sharing :-)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
My pleasure!
@TheMahtimursu
@TheMahtimursu 3 роки тому
As you noticed, epoxy coated solar panels quickly degrade in the sunlight. However, there is a quick and simple solution. Multiple manufacturers make clear UV-resistant thick tape for fixing greenhouses etc. It is perfect for protecting the solar panels, easy to install and with a few years of experience it seems to do the job well. Also, it does not seem to affect the efficiency of the panels much. I believe big clive has a video about using this tape.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Great tip! Today I learned from other commenters that the glass also blocks UV. So I have two solutions.
@TheMahtimursu
@TheMahtimursu 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess glass definitely protects from the UV-light, but my experience is that most glass types will significantly reduce the panel output (like 20-50%). That's why solar panels normally use special low iron glass. The tape I have been using is something like this: www.amazon.co.uk/Scotch-Supreme-Glass-Repair-Tape/dp/B00QRZACW8
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
The reduction in power is well possible, but not too important in this application. The worst case would be that I have to add a bigger panel. They are no more expensive. So far it completely charges the battery every day. I will see how it will go during winter. Thanks for the link.
@norgtube
@norgtube 3 роки тому
If you want any kind of waterproofness you have to compress the seal. The ikea glass lunchboxes are good for this, provided you use water-rated passthrough fittings
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
So far I did not use any water-rated passthrough fittings and had no humidity problems. But I do not have a four seasons experience.
@TestSpaceMonkey
@TestSpaceMonkey 3 роки тому
1) Improve thermal path: Embed a large aluminum plate/heat sink in the lid on the shade side to improve thermal dissipation and carefully seal around its edges? 2) Divide and conquer: Move to 2 boxes, one with the solar cell out in the sun and another in the shade for the electronics. You'll need a sealed hole in each lid for the power lines and UV-resistant/protected wire. Even without exploding batteries, I'd be worried about the reduced lifespan of a lot of the electronics under the harsh and constant sun in some places. 3) Preventative mods: 3D print new lids in ASA or other UV-resistant material. I've seen polypropylene nearly degraded to a fine powder in about a summer out here. Also worth adjusting the rim geometry so water can drip down and off the lid instead of just getting caught in the gasket area. Cheers from Southern California
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
You definitively have more experience with sun! Your proposals for sure would work. I still hope I can get away with shading. But, after all the different proposals I decided to do a test setup with different things like completely sealed, with a hole, with a membrane, and maybe even with a aluminum heatsink, if I am able to solve the problems. I found the idea to have glass as the main box in the sun appealing because it probably will not be destroyed as fast as plastic.
@rfc1795
@rfc1795 3 роки тому
Great video as usual Andreas!! Have to ask, what is the name of those under counter drawers you have there? I'm looking all over Ikea website but can't find anything like it. Was it a custom build you put together?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
It is called METOD. I left a link in the description.
@rfc1795
@rfc1795 3 роки тому
@@AndreasSpiess Too kind, thank you Sir! :-)
@brickedmyphone1189
@brickedmyphone1189 3 роки тому
awesome, never knew ikea batteries were good quality
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I only depend on tests others did....
@huskywang5530
@huskywang5530 3 роки тому
What you plan to buy in IKEA: Boxes What you actually bought: Blåhaj and Livlig
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
I will think about that when I become a grandpa ;-)
@Insulus
@Insulus 3 роки тому
for radiating heat, fill the container with clean motor oil. the oil is excellent for distributing heat to the glass. heat sinks could be added to the glass for better cooling.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому
Other commenters suggested to use other oils. I think it would work. However I fear the mess :-(
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