I would think long and hard about that. And if possible, buy something that would allow you to keep both. I don’t know if you could really go backward from the GX and would hate to see you get rid of a V8 and then not be able to go back to one once it goes away. We plan to add a new Prius to the GX that we can use as a beater and then maybe get rid of the 4Runner.

Going from a GX to a 4Runner would be downgrade, imho!

we thrashed our since new... it's held up great 😃 go for it... many GXs are on the trails out here ❤

I understand….., but you only live once and any object can be stolen, wrecked or scratched! It a reason why we all have car insurance. If my GX gets totaled or stolen , I just get a new replacement type though it will not be a V8, it will still be okay!

@METMOT…I just picked up my 2023 GX460 this week. I traded in my 2021 4Runner TRD ORP and I can tell you hands down, I love this GX. It is by far a step up from the 4Runner. Don’t get me wrong, I loved my 4Runner, but this is just another level above. I will say, the 4Runner definitely has more space and I do miss that, but the GX is just luxurious and the ride is awesome as you know. I agree with others, stay with the GX, I know I am.

You are so kind! Thank you for such a nice comment, I so appreciate it!

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed!

Thank you so much for the kind words, I’m so glad you’ve enjoyed! And yes, same at being surprised at how little there is comparing the two! And thanks so much for watching and subscribing!

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You are so welcome! Thanks for watching and hello from Austin!

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Thank you! And yes I agree! The 4Runner with KDSS drives very similarly in terms of KDSS controlling the vehicle’s posture really well like it does in the GX.

I have the TRD Off Road Premium w/KDSS. That was the deciding factor for me. I wanted a smoother ride. on road. With the capabilities

@@harrywalker4922 Now, if I could only get that with full time 4WD! But, that combo is only available on a Lexus. If only I could get a Lexus with similar bumpers and angles as the 4Runner!

Hey neighbor! Thanks so much for the kind words, I appreciate it! And you made a great choice there! I’ve never had a car that can make even the worst stretches of I35 smooth as butter LOL! And although my goal is to keep this GX 100% stock, I always love to hear what other folks do to theirs! Cheers!!

“Rides and handles like a 1960s Cadillac limousine!’ I’m at an age and stage to enjoy myself, if I can afford the GX the mi can afford premium gas and so-so mileage!

Thank you!

We have a 23gx it’s quiet.

Thank you! I’m so glad you enjoyed!

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Hi Josh yes i did watch your videos on how you had your GX detailed. All your videos are excellent. And thank you for responding well appreciated.

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Thank you!

Thank you! It’s a great vehicle and you absolutely should!!

Awesome!! Hope it gives you decades of great driving!

Thank you, and I think you’ll be quite happy with both! My only piece of advice to you is to stretch for the 2022 (or new) GX if possible. The infotainment system in the 2022 is worth the extra cash and I believe blind spot was added in 21 or 22 too. Plus, 2020 GXs are still so expensive on the used market too… you’ll maybe save $10K but new GXs are also being discounted quite a bit in some markets.

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Yes! I didn’t get into the specific details of capability hardware since trims of both vary so much. The thing to be aware of, which I’m sure you already know, is that KDSS is a waste of money for those who want to modify their suspension setup (as many 4Runner owners do) as it renders it useless, and it can also be a rather expensive proposition if/when the hydraulics need to be repaired. I believe the eKDSS is supposed to be a bit more reliable in this respect.

Yes! Totally agreed and you’re spot on with that being a big difference. The floor to ceiling height as a whole is much shorter.

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You are very welcome, glad it was helpful!

You can’t beat the 4Runner for dogs! The only thing to be aware of is the lift over height of the cargo area is high so smaller dogs and older dogs have trouble getting in and out.

I don't let dogs ride in cargo area with tailgate window open due to safety concerns

@johnycyr181 your dogs should always be properly secured in the vehicle with a harness anyway, and once they are, you shouldn’t have any problems.

You’re absolutely right, someone could definitely do the TRD Off Road! My only problem with the Off Road (and all 4Runners beside TRD Pro and Limited) is that they don’t have the JBL audio, dual zone automatic climate control, and remote connect capability for remote starting via the app or key fob. Those are absolute must haves for me. Not for everyone, I understand, but it’s 2023 and a car that costs as much as the Off Road Premium really should have at least the dual-zone automatic climate control and I wouldn’t want to drive a 4Runner without the JBL. Same with the Mark Levinson the GX. The only thing I want to add in response to what you suggested above is that the money one would spend upgrading to a new car versus aftermarket upgrades to an existing car is the MUCH better resale on TRD Pro versus SR5. I’m able to sell mine for more than I paid for it. An aftermarket-upgraded SR5 just isn’t as desirable on the preowned market.

@joshjamescars Ahh yes I forgot the audio system and connectivity upgrades that come with the higher trims and you are absolutely right about the resale value. The only thing the SR5 has over the other trim levels is a 3rd row seat option. Again great video and you just gained a new subscriber 😃. I look forward to more content from you

@jessemorgan7007 thank you! But actually the Limited also offers the third row option as well!The only ones that don’t are the TRD Off Road and Pro. Not sure about the TRD Sport, it may since it’s more like a Limited. Cheers!

Thank you! We’re actually not getting the TX, I have a video on why not (we got the GX instead of it). When I did this video we hadn’t intended to get rid of either but after getting our Prius, we ended up selling the 4Runner because the dealer offered us $50K for it.

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Thank you! And that’s a great 4Runner.

Hello! Congratulations! I personally don’t like the black line at all. The interior looks so plain in the all-gray and the wood trim is matte which also makes it look like plastic. But that’s just me. And it’s so funny you mention the ES, we actually just picked up a new V6 Camry since the V6 is going away and they’ve actually taken a lot of the refinement techniques from the ES and applied them to the Camry.

@@joshjamescars Congratulations on the Camry! Sad to see Toyota removing this buttery engine from their vehicles. What about the Prius? I agree with you on the interior of the Blackline pkg. What I liked was the front camera available with it, but so far haven't had the need for it. Lexus/Toyota should at least offer it as an accessory.

@lji2000 Thank you! We actually traded it back for exactly what we paid for it, since they’re in such high demand the dealer will sell it way above MSRP, I’m sure.

@@joshjamescarsCool. Enjoy the new ride!

Thank you for watching!

Hello! A few people have pointed out the 4Runner’s dimensions being wider but the only way I can imagine that being the case with is if I think they’re listing minimum clearance width which for the GX would be with the power mirrors folded. Also not sure how they got the interior measurements because the 4Runner was cramped for me but the GX is almost too big (like it’s almost too tall floor to ceiling inside for my 5’6” frame to sit comfortably and reach the pedals), so… maybe it’s some kind of magic trick Toyota is playing but I personally can’t see a way having the two side by side and going from one to the other that the GX is possibly smaller than the 4Runner. As for rear cargo space in the 4Runner, keep in mind that all GXs have a third row seat but not all 4Runners do, so I’d guess the measurement difference is due to that. But don’t take my word for it, I’d recommend going to a dealer and parking your 4Runner side by side with a GX on the lot and going back and forth between the two. See if you agree with what I feel doing it with my two. The new infotainment in the GX is also terrific so if you’re wanting to upgrade, now is the time! Also, the GX offers a smoother ride not just because of the tires but also because of the V8, the extra 6th gear on the freeway, and full-time 4WD (so it puts down power to the pavement more equally, versus the 4Runner is always pushing itself around from the rear). As for the running boards, mine are OEM Toyota! I don’t have the part number off hand but these are off of the Trail model from when the 5th gen first launched. Google that and you’ll see my running boards. I love them and highly recommend them!

You can’t go wrong with the 4Runner for reliability and longevity!

Thank you! And glad I could help! Though I should tell you in fairness that the 4Runner’s load floor is high too, especially if you get the sliding cargo tray (which I really like). It’s not because of the third row but because of the solid rear axle in the back; it takes up a lot more space than an independent rear. But you’re right, the 4Runner is SO practical. In regard to the TRD Off Road, I do think the TRD Pro is worth the upgrade cost for the JBL, dual-zone automatic climate control, and app-based remote start. It is almost inexcusable to me that the TRD Off Road still has single zone manual climate control given its price. Now, since you say you’re cross-shopping, do be sure you fully understand the differences between the full-time 4WD in the GX and part-time 4WD in the TRD Off Road & Pro. It’s not meant to be used on road and only works up to 50mph.

@@joshjamescars thanks for the info! I didn’t realize the Trd pro had that many more features. I thought it was primarily the appearance and the suspension which I will be replacing anyways. I originally was looking for a vehicle for my wife, but we ended up getting her an atlas so now this will be for me. I was leaning towards the Lexus because of the full-time four-wheel-drive, i’m in Massachusetts and we get a lot of snow and I wouldn’t want her to leave it in four wheel high doing 65 miles on the highway by accident.

@mcwendel8066 Yes! That’s why I bought mine, and 100% worth it for the upgrade. That said… since you say you’re in Massachusetts I might actually take back what I said before and tell you to go with a 4Runner Limited or GX because the TRD Pro is a beast in the snow but again is always only rear wheel drive on the highway (or above 50mph). The TRD Pro and Limited share the same “premium” equipment like the dual-zone auto climate, JBL, and remote connect.

@@joshjamescars oh good to know! Could always swap the bumper out of the limited, and make it look like the Trd pro. Yeah, I was kind of wondering what the difference was with the four-wheel-drive systems? I noticed the Trd off-road and Pro have the lever to switch into four-wheel-drive, and the other trims seem to have the knob.

@mcwendel8066 In short, the 4Runner Limited & GX’s Full-time 4WD is basically the same as Subarus (which I see all over up there). Always-on 4WD with a central limited slip differential. Designed primarily for stability and traction for the best on-road use. Any other 4Runner is going to have the part-time 4WD which is NOT designed for on-road use, and can be damaged if used on-road because there’s no limited slip diff to allow for the wheels to spin at different speeds. So the best way to think about any non-limited 4Runner is as a rear wheel drive vehicle that can get you un-stuck in tricky situations at low-speeds on road (plus do brilliantly off-road, of course). Also, the knob vs lever are just different methods of controlling the transfer case. The knob is electronic, the lever is a true old school manual shifter.

Yes!! Completely agreed with this!!

Hence the link to the GX intro video where I take it out on the road :) See here: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/p2eLdrCMbaSGr6c.htmlsi=tm7IYYx0fcktQYkR

Not for me but I don’t generally leave them in areas where auto theft is common and mine parks in a locked garage at home at night. If you do, or if you’re often in dodgy areas, you might not want to buy a GX in general.

It does but depending on climate, your furry friends may prefer the fresh air you get from the 4Runner. My big one hates the GX and loves having the window down in everything from freezing weather to 100 degree weather.

Hello! Yes, you are correct, I don’t believe I said it did, but if I did, apologies. The one thing not mentioned here is X-REAS which is similar but different to KDSS which the Limited and TRD Sport get, to your point, but the GX does not.

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Am I wrong in thinking that if you want constant 4WD, you can just keep your vehicle on 4WD? I'm not sure why this is considered such a "feature" of the limited 4R

@reddon1969 Nooooo. The part-time 4WD system only works up to 50mph and is ONLY meant for off-roading as there is no center differential (meaning all wheels spin at EXACTY the same speed at all times and in cornering/turning your outer wheels are covering more distance and spinning faster than the inner wheels) and you can SEVERELY damage your vehicle if you keep it in 4WD at all times. You should look at every trim of the 4Runner besides the Limited as a 2WD vehicle that happens to have a basic 4WD system when you’re off-roading. The GX and 4Runner Limited have an entirely different full-time 4WD system with a center differential that can run at all speeds. 4WD systems are all different and made for different things. VERY VERY important to know the difference before you end up with a $10-20K repair bill.

@@reddon1969 5th gen 4Runner Limited and GX460 have torsen center differential that can be locked at 50% front & 50% rear like a traditional part-time 4WD to be used on loose traction surface (gravel, dirt, mud, sand, snow). It also can be unlocked (aka full time 4WD/AWD and the default setting) to be able to drive on the high traction surface (paved roads) without binding the front and rear differentials. The torsen sensing part of the center differential shifts power from a default rear bias of 60 rear/40 front to either less rear bias or more front bias depending on detected slippage. This torsen center differential has been in Toyota/Lexus 4WD SUVs since 2003 on the 4th gen V8 4Runner, GX470, and Sequoia. Land Cruisers/LX did not get a torsen center differential until 2008. They used a different type of center differential for full time 4WD.

I think you absolutely should upgrade to a GX if that’s the case! And would highly recommend doing so ASAP before the V8 goes away as well. I have a video going live at noon today of my experience thus far with the GX and honestly could not be happier with it. Plus, you’ll be able to trade your 4Runner for a really great sum. I ended up selling my TRD Pro for $50K to a dealer which is more than I paid for it in 2019.

Interesting! I hadn’t noticed but I’m going to go and look now that you mentioned it! Honestly I’m so used to both the GX and 4Runner being a handful to drive due to their hydraulic power assisted steering racks that I don’t think I’d notice if it were to start pulling in one direction or another LOL!!

It’s a known, and accepted, flaw with GXes ( just like the infamous lean ) .. As long as it drives straight, don’t go down the perfectly centered steering rabbit hole!

@@M5_Sonu Thanks for commenting! As a guy who who would've gone down that rabbit hole, and never came out, I appreciate knowing this. 😎👍

Haha! Yeah that would get expensive real quick! Though, it depends on how much she intends to drive it. I would definitely test drive both and then decide. Part of me thinks having two of the last Toyota V8s would really be something special.

@@joshjamescars agreed

I dont think its that expensive. My husband drives a TRD tundra v8, and I drive a '23 GX v8.

Wow, that’s great! Keep them for as long as they’ll keep running!

Hello! I’ve done the same thing-had a nicely optioned new-gen RX and I was really disappointed with it. Didn’t feel like a Lexus to me. Noisy 4-cylinder, cheap plastics on the inside, low grade “wood” trim, all the things our GXs just don’t have. So… I completely agree the GX is just a totally different product from an era long gone!

@@joshjamescars they loaned me an NX which was absolutely ridiculously cheap compared to the GX… it is in a class by itself… I’ve never drive. The biggest Lexus SUV & I’m afraid to do so, it may be too tempting..😂

Well the bad (or maybe good) news with the new LX600 is that it’s sort of just the new NX and RX just bigger-lesser grade interior materials than before, turbo-6 instead of V8, etc.-so it may not be as tempting as you think. And fortunately or unfortunately depending on how you look at it, the great LX570 was discontinued back in 2021 and so low mileage, pristine examples for sale are few and far between. So keep your GX460 because I can guarantee you there’s nothing in the Lexus lineup today you’ll want to trade it for!

Hello! I so recommend doing so!! Can not tell you how happy I am with the GX. So many people have told me that they too bought a new NX or RX and flipped it because the new engines aren’t fitting of Lexus. And yes! There’s a package called “Premium Plus with Captain’s Chairs”. However, keep in mind that with the captain’s chairs, if you leave the third row folded (which I do because it’s a joke and I’d much rather have the cargo space), with the captains chairs you’ll have a big ugly hole in the middl of the back seat that goes right into the cargo area. The captain’s chairs don’t have a center console between them so things can slide right through from the cargo area into the second row, which is why I waited for one to come in with the bench seat since I never intend to use the third row and with the third row down, it looks like any old 5-seater, 2-row SUV.

Hi Josh makes sense about your recommendation on purchasing the bench seats vs captain chairs. I will always keep the third row seats down. We’ll appreciate advice

Oh yeah you will probably want to do what I did and get the bench seat option. It just looks and works so much better if you don’t ever intend to use the third row. And keeps the cargo area nicely separated from the passenger compartment.

Going to test drive one this afternoon. Another thing I like about the the GX its not loaded with technology , your asking for issues down the road especially if you intend to keep the vehicle . And really home much of it is needed.

@mikecolon1802 Hope you enjoy your test drive! Totally agreed. And nothing (or very little) that’s cloud connected, but nothing internet related to being able to drive the car.

Hello! Believe it or not I actually prefer the Fortuner in many ways. Toyota kept it way more updated than the 4Runner. Way nicer lighting inside and out and I’ve heard that it rides about the same even though our 4Runner is built on the same platform as the LC 150/Prado (but the 4Runner doesn’t ride nearly as nicely). The latest update that gave it the black roof looks so good. Cheers!

@@joshjamescars yes that's right! The new Fortuner looks sick with that two tone coloured roof. It also handles better than the 4 on road and packs more torque as well so overall it's a great package. I love my 2009 which is actually better off orad than the newer iterations. Thanks for the response and keep the great vids coming!

Hello, and thank you! You’ll love the GX, and I feel you on wanting luxury over the utility/capability. So I would definitely pull the trigger on a GX, and I would highly recommend Premium Plus or better. And DEFINITELY go new. Much like the 4Runner the price difference between CPO and new isn’t enough to make it worth going pre owned. Maybe $5K, if that, and I’d much rather buy a brand new, final year GX. It’s so worth buying new to keep for 10-20 years. You didn’t mention whether you’re trading or adding, so I’ll just say that if you do sell the 4Runner for the GX, it’ll be worth a mint (my TRD Pro which also has 14K miles always apprises at $50K) so I think that also helps toward buying new vs CPO. Cheers!

@@joshjamescars Thank you for the quick reply. Yes, unfortunately I would be either selling the 4Runner or trading it in. I think you’re right, definitely going new would be the better choice. Thanks for the feedback! I subscribed as well.

@BigdogLarry Got ya. I would recommend getting it appraised by a Toyota dealer as they’ll be able to sell it as a CPO vehicle and thus might offer you more (Lexus can’t, obviously). I have an order in on a new Prius to use as a daily driver and can’t justify having the 4Runner, GX, Prius, and our Rav Prime, so we may be selling ours too.

@@joshjamescars Oh, ok. Thank you for the advice, seems like a good idea. I’m sure the 4Runner will be in more demand once the 6th gen comes out. Maybe I should wait? But then again, if I want to get the GX, I’ll have to move asap on it. Thanks again Josh!

@BigdogLarry If you can afford to keep both for a little bit (have a little bit of overlap) I do think resale on ours will go up, but like you say, the GX is going away before we’ll know anything at all about the next 4Runner so… I would say move on the GX soon!

Go and watch my intro video to the GX. It’s like a bank vault. That comment wasn’t a knock on the S-Class, A8, and 7-series, but that they’re far more dynamic and much sportier. As of late I feel like they’ve all gotten firm, taut, and quiet; where the LS and GX are old school soft, cushy, and quiet. Not for everyone, but I love it.

Haha I do! And thank goodness that whole stretch has finally gotten somewhat sorted out!!

I think you should definitely go for the GX if you can swing it, it’s head and shoulders better than the 4Runner Limited. I love the 4Runner but the GX is in a different ballgame. Now, I do want to add that depending on what you value and what you like, the GX is an OLD vehicle so you’re not going to get modern technology anywhere (adaptive cruise only above 32mph, passive not active lane keep/centering, passive blind spot, no steering assist at all), so to your point about wasting money on flipping cars, you have to be honest with yourself about whether the GX is going to actually make you happy for 5-10 years. Keep in mind it’s about 10 years out of date NOW so in 10 years you’ll have 20 year old technology.

​@@joshjamescarsyeah thanks for insight. I'm aware of the technology. I like the fact that it uses a proven tech to make it reliable. All these new features scare me when it comes time to fix or replace outta warranty especially with digital dash. Lol

Great choices!!! The LX600 does have a recall on it for the transmission right now so be sure to have that taken care of if you haven’t already.

Hello! I had no idea the Prado was available with the 2TR engine but that’s another one that will run for a million miles with no issues! Great car. As for the TRD Pro, IMO it’s worth its money for two reasons: 1. It actually has upgraded features like the JBL sound system and automatic climate control plus remote app access which only it and the Limited get. And 2. It’s a very low production model and so it’s something of a collectors item. Meaning they really don’t depreciate and often sell for more than MSRP on the used market. I sold mine late last year after having the GX for a while and actually sold it back to the dealer for $4,600 more than I paid for the car new back in 2019, 4 years earlier. So mine appreciated over the time I owned it which alone makes it worth it in my opinion. And once the V6 goes away, they’ll be even more valuable which is crazy. It’s going to be the next FJ Cruiser, which also sells for as much as they cost new even 7-8 years on now.

Hello!! Yes, it definitely can be but that adds additional maintenance and puts more stress on the engine and transmission too. That actually now would push it likely past a GX Premium like mine. Also, check with your dealer but you can take a GX to Toyota for servicing if you really decided the Lexus is going to work better for you. They can order any parts that you need as the catalogue is the same and the 1UR was in the Tundra. And, if your GX ever did need specialty care, you could make that drive. I say this because I have family that lives in Hawaii but not on the main island of Oahu (they live on the Big Island) and they don’t have a Lexus dealer but many people on the island own Lexuses and take them to the Toyota dealer for service.

@@joshjamescars Thank You - great information!

Any Toyota dealer can, and most likely will, service your GX ! You don’t need a Lexus dealership for it at all..

That’s interesting! Would love to know what would make you hesitate to upgrade? As for value, there’s no real way to call that one way or another and they will fluctuate with the market. The 4Runner TRD Pro holds its value like nothing else (mine has appreciated and I can sell it for more than I paid for it) but the SR5 isn’t the same way. Likewise, the GX holds its value well too but it depends how it’s outfitted.

Thank you! I’m really interested to see whether Toyota even keeps the 4Runner around since I think a cheaper body on frame 4x4 could possibly tank Land Cruiser sales.

On paper (engineering spec) possibly. But perception from an owner? Both are great, IMO. My 4Runner hasn’t had any squeaks or rattles and everything feels as good and tight as it did on day 1. The only real difference I see is in the clear coat over the caviar which is better to your point on Lexus vehicles. But the 4Runner is also made much, much better than most North American Lexuses I’ve seen as of late.

Evidence of build quality difference? What is your empirical data to support this claim? 🥸

Hello! I do think Lexus refined the experience overall, and The Topher who has owned a 2012 or 2014 (can’t remember) has remarked that the new ones ride a lot more nicely than his did. Now, a LOT has to do with mileage and how well it was maintained and tires, etc. as well and that cant be overlooked. Meaning, a new Hyundai or Chevy could very easily be more reliable and more mechanically sound than a 10 year old GX if it wasn’t maintained properly, if that makes sense. And the thing to really look at with older GXs and 4Runners is that many of them were bought from their first owner, turned into an off-roading rig, and then returned to stock once the second owner decided to move on and you wouldn’t know it from looking at the CarFax and vehicle history. So if you’re buying one, take it to a GOOD mechanic that specializes in Toyota trucks and have them do a thorough one over on the truck to make sure it was owned by some retiree who only ever drove it to pick up the grand kids and run to target LOL! I’d also advise you to really think about the long term too. Yeah you may have to take out a small loan for a new one but is it worth it to have a brand new car that you can keep running in pristine working order for the next 15-20 years? Versus one that’s already halfway through its lifespan and won’t have any kind of warranty. The Mark Levinson sound unit in these alone is $5,000 for parts and another $2,000 or so for labor. AMD’s 600,000 mile LS is an extreme case but look how much he’s had to put into that car. Because these are going away full stop this year, it may be worth buying the last great GX new (I’ve heard people are getting $5-8K off of them too) and paying off the loan as fast as you can and having a car that you can baby and maintain from new for its entire lifetime.

@@joshjamescars thx for the thorough reply. I'll definitely take all that into consideration. You've been very helpful.

Thank you!

They definitely do! Not too late to get another ;)

@@joshjamescars I would do it if I didn’t have my 2022 RX 350 and 2022 ES 350 F Sport. We need a sedan for my husband’s business. We take care of my elderly mom and she couldn’t climb up into to it anymore. Best wishes for your beautiful new GX

Oh well you’ve got two absolutely amazing cars there! Don’t let them go LOL!!! And thank you so much!!

Awesome!! Yes, I think the GX is definitely the best upgrade from the Limited Nightshade!

That would be a great choice! Though I think your Prado 250 has full time 4WD if I’m not mistaken which makes it more capable on road. The 4Runner (except for the Limited) is annoyingly part time 4WD with no center differential meaning only under 50mph.

@@joshjamescars oh didn’t know the 4Runner is part time. It’s ok you have KDSS hehe ;) My Prado J150 is full time AWD with DAC and centre locking diff. Great SUV, had Moby Dick since 2012 :)

It can definitely be a lot! But for me, the V8 is worth paying the premium penalty for.

@joshjamescars I get it, part of me I want to get it because it's made in Japan, tested for a long time and proving quality, which is something you can't beat anywhere in the world.

The same thing is true of your 4Runner, though! So I don’t necessarily think you’re missing out on that. I always tell people to go and test drive one even if just for fun because that’s where you’ll see the real differences between a 4Runner and a GX.

Hi there! Not one bit, LOL! If you haven’t watched my 6 likes and 6 dislikes about the GX video go check that out and skip to the 6th dislike. It’s all about the GX550. I personally don’t like anything about the new GX. Don’t like the engine, the interior looks cheap and dull, and I think it’s WAY over priced. That said, I think you were the one to whom I said that I wouldn’t chose the current GX460 as the base for an overland build. I love the GX460 because it’s an amazing roadtrip machine and that’s the duty that the Land Cruiser Prado has always been built for as its primary focus. Long haul, smooth and refined on-road comfort. The new one definitely will be better off road than the 460. I’ve heard the GX550 has been delayed multiple times and because there are a lot of people in line waiting, I’ve been told the earliest you could get one now is about this time next year. And depending on budget (if $85K for an overtrail plus is too expensive) you might also look at the new Land Cruiser. Since neither engine is going to be as reliable as the V8, I personally would go with the hybrid max.

Hello! 5,000 on the 4Runner vs 6,500 on the GX and trust me the 4Runner doesn’t feel like it has enough power to tow anything.

@@joshjamescars Thanks for that. 5,000 lbs is plenty enough for me then (single jet ski and a smallish bass boat for very short , not too hilly distances)

The GX is actually great for tall drivers because it’s got a really tall floor to ceiling height span. In fact, I feel like I’m almost too short to drive it.

@@joshjamescars great to hear, thanks. I test drove one and it felt better but wasn't sure if 'it was just me' because I was excited to find one to actually test drive.

It could also be because the GX’s mirrors fold and so the minimum body clearance is narrower.

I’m about to trade in my 4Runner for a GX. Presently I have just inches clearing the garage door opening with the side view mirrors in place. Thank you for alerting me for the need going forward to fold the side views on the GX. 👍🏻 I had previously assumed they were roughly the same width.

Oh yeah if you can clear the door with your 4Runner mirrors open, you’ll be fine in the GX with them folded. :) and congrats on the new GX!!!

Oh man I would just keep both, the V8 4Runner was a real gem.

@@joshjamescars well it's a 2WD limited with 230k mi and all new suspension, all mechanical work done, maintenance, etc. No rust. Shows it's age in a couple areas mainly the paint on the roof is gone but otherwise is very clean. Someone offered me $20k for it. What would you do?

Damn! 4Runner values are insane. I ended up selling my TRD Pro for $50. Couldn’t pass that up either.

@@joshjamescars Damn! Haha I know you meant $50k but that's insane resale even on a TRD pro. You did great!

Fully support! I think anyone who wants to modify should absolutely go with the 4Runner! You have to do too much to the GX to make it decent as an off-roader IMO.

I totally understand that. I personally love the grille on this GX. I don’t care for the new grilles Lexus is doing on the new RX, TX, and GX. But obviously, that’s for everyone to decide on their own! :)

I would give the new GX a year or two before you buy; that turbo engine still has some kinks they need to work out and the entire car is new so unlike the current 4Runner and GX it will have some teething issues for the next few years as they sort things out.

@joshjamescars the main issue is auto theft/ car jackingis extremely bad in Canada.

I have not, thankfully! I’ve heard it’s more common on vehicles with the adaptive and air suspension which I specifically avoided.

Oh no the GX and 4Runner are totally different. I know exactly what you mean too and I greatly dislike the Tacoma for exactly that reason. These both have a very different seating position. I almost find the GX is almost too tall for me (5’6”) so definitely sit in and test drive.

@@joshjamescars which truck if you are 6’4 would be better? I want a Tahoe type feel but Toyota reliability lol . I use the Tacoma for work and i know it will last forever and it’s a just a tool to me like power saw or drill so that is fine cause the pros outweighs the cons compared to my other trucks lol. But driving with kids and dogs and how big i am - i really want leg and shoulder width room.. it seems the gx will have more arm and leg room…

@jerseycitymuaythai oh get the GX, most definitely. However, it does REQUIRE premium fuel which is a dealbreaker for some. But if it isn’t, you’re also looking at only a few weeks before true GX460 goes away forever. Most dealers are down to less than 15.

That V8 4Runner is really something special! Hold onto that one for a long time!

@@joshjamescarsI have a 97 limited. Would you replace the 97 with an 08 v8 4x4 t4r

I would but you have to be really careful and make sure that the car is mechanically sound since an 08 is going to be 15 years old. Be sure to get it inspected by an independent Toyota mechanic who specializes in Toyota trucks.

As mentioned in the video the GX requires premium fuel so will obviously be more for that. Maintenance is hard to pin down because it depends on what trim you buy. Part-time 4WD 4Runners will need their differential fluids flushed and changed changed every now and again and the TRD Pro will need its suspension to be rebuilt after some time too. Plus labor rates are set by every individual dealer.

The Limited is great (it’s X-REAS suspension) but it’s still bogged down by the 5-speed auto and I think the Limited is too close in price to a base GX460 where you get real luxury, a better engine, and much better transmission.

Hello! I have seriously considered it! Either that or the Model 3 because I do genuinely think they’re great cars for certain people. I’ve rented more than I can count as it’s my go-to rental choice as a Hertz Gold member. If you have any specific questions on it, feel free to leave them here or email me at joshscarsofjapan@gmail.com!

Yes but used pricing is always going to vary because there are so many factors at play (age, condition, mileage, color, options, etc.) so the only way to really compare price on a level playing field is to use new pricing of the same model year.

That’s one reason I bought the NuLuxe and not the semi-aniline leather. With careful use and routine detailing, they’ll hold up great. We also have heated and cooled seats and seat covers will make those great features less effective.

That’s great! I’m sure you got it for a great price, too!

Hello! You absolutely should, I love the 4Runner Limited. The only thing I’ll advise you think about is whether you may want another GX because in many places, the GX is being heavily discounted below the price of a loaded 4Runner Limited 4WD. And… despite the premium fuel required in the GX, I think I might rather have it for the same price, cheers!

Well, I bought another GX! A low mileage 2015.

Terrific! And yes definitely keep them both for as long as you can!

Everyone values things differently. I personally could never buy a 4Runner and have the low rent cloth seats, manual climate control, and no moonroof, etc. Plus, 4Runner TRD Pros hold their value far better than an SR5, especially a heavily modified SR5. Granted, I am not a serious, every weekend off-roader either. So for me, being able to buy the car in 2019 for $46,500, drive it and use it for 4 years, and then sell it in 2023 for $50K solidified that I made the right decision back then.

Hello! You must be somewhere at altitude or drive that thing incredibly gently! As for the auto lights, you should have that. Could it be a setting is disabled? I haven’t seen a new Toyota without automatic headlights and automatic high beams (part of the TSS suite) in years. I also thought the heated steering wheel was new for all 2022 models, maybe it’s a 2023 thing. I know the new ones have it. Anyhow, like you say it’s great for off-roading! Just not as nice for on-reading. 😂

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Hello! I think it depends what you want the car for. If you plan to do any off roading, I’d go with the 4Runner. If you plan to only drive on road, I’d go with the GX. The GX also REQUIRES premium fuel so that’s an added cost that will always be higher over the long-term and can really add up if you drive a lot. Now, with the GX, I also want to recommend you stretch and get a 2022 because that’s where you’ll get the new infotainment system which is absolutely worth spending on. Also, if you’re able to spend a little more, new 2023 GXs are being very heavily discounted as they’re on their way out so that might be something you look at getting a number on as well from your Lexus dealer. A number of folks here have gotten a new GX Premium for $55K.

@@joshjamescars thank you so much! Btw which GX460 models take regular gas? I am thinking i want a older model to have it get beaten up more. If something is new and shiny gets ding i am going to upset

I don’t believe any GX ever took regular gas. Since day one, they have always had a big silky smooth V8 and those require premium to run that way.

You’re most welcome! I’d definitely advise test driving a GX460 before you make a final decision, but I think both are great either way. And, you’ll still have the last V6 4Runner too since the 25 is going all in on turbo 4s.

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