Excellent! It would be nice if Canadians were included in these draws. I own a ton of DeWalt tools but DeWalt doesn't seem to care enough to offer us the same courtesy.

​@@acreguy3156 well ya you use funny dollars.

@@bobbg9041 Perhaps but we still have to work hard for them, as we increase DeWalt's profits every year.

Your safety device should never be a crutch to a sense of compliancy, even the micro push block can get you hurt if you take it for granite the key is a clean work place staying alert and focused on what your doing. My dad told me back in the 1960s A table saw or any machine but table saw in this case cuts wood, it also cuts plastic, and metals. I would never run my hand over a running saw blade and use a plastic device to keep me safe, its not as safe as you think. If the saw cuts wood what do you think it will do to plastic?

Your hands should never get even with the front of blade. Never.

Hope your digits got sown bacon on - fucking ouch - respect man.

Wasn’t making a joke, stupid auto speller - hope your fingers where able to be sown back on - cheers and good luck dude.

Tony V you have my greatest sympathy. I've got my finger in a table saw blade twice. I very very fortunate that both injuries were minor. I'm a carpenter by trade and can only imagine how life altering losing three fingers would be.

I’m sorry to hear about your injury. I ended up with a few stitches last year, and while my injury ended up being minor, it really changed the way I operate the table saw.

@ Tony "V" Very sorry that you were so badly injured. Opened my thumb up on my 20 y.o. Unisaw last month. Totally my fault-doing a 45 degree miter on a narrow work piece with the blade way too high. Reached over to keep the work piece tight to the fence and the fleshy part of my thumb found the blade. Docs in the ER could not close the wound-too much meat was gone. Turned down a graft and let it heal slowly. Still coping with PTSD but went back to making sawdust and wood chips a safer and wiser woodworker.

Glad it was helpful!

Yup. First one that actually gave me the chills.

That clip from blacktail studios!!

just imagine that 2x4 flying back right into your balls at 100mph.

@@Lincolnstww How should a cut be made with a push block if you want say 2" strips? Do you move the fence in each cut or do you set the fence to 2" and use the raised portion of the push block to go on top of the blade?

Thank you very much

_Every second of every day!_ I wear my specs and ear plugs when I weedeat my lawn... For the exact same reason _I don't stick my thingy in Crazy!_

Ya, youtube monkey, see Monkey, most do bad and poor shop habits! Good video and discussion here! Well done!

Not safety first, its risk management and engineering controls. Safety first by definition means nothing gets done. 24 years military aviation confined space program manager, QA, oil/gas testing/proving division, general contractor, etc. the number of engineers acting as ehs division chiefs that made up solutions for problems that didnt exist and then failed to inspect implementation and very things like how the NEC code applied was really fun. I watched millions poured into programs that were approved and wasted. Then i would come along with the osha cfr and drop a wrench in the machine.

I didn't know people could make a living "teaching" safety to people. It seriously sounds like a job that gets nothing done. If people don't want to wear safety gear or use what you consider to be safety equipment, they don't have to. I personally have always heard that if your head isn't in what you are doing, you shouldn't be doing it. Safety has become a profitable enterprise.

Me in nsw

Thank you - much appreciated

Every one made me cringe, and every one looked avoidable. But I suppose that’s the point.

A healthy level of fear is appropriate for guns, large animals, power tools, and the sea, take any of them for granted at your peril

@@jeffhreid the sea?! That’s outside. Too scary out there.

Upon seeing those happen in HUGE shops I was like "oh fudge...."

@@jeffhreid Damn ocean you scary!!! 🌊😱

Agreed! 👍

My HS shop teacher had a similar lecture. What I remember more was the big hole in the wall behind the saw caused by a kick-back with a length of 2x4.

@@timpurcell2717 A 2x4 doesnt tell the length of a board....

@Carl Carlssen he did specify the length of the 2x4, obviously a 2x4 was being cut caused a kickback and put a hole in the wall. The length of the 2x4 is irrelevant.

Thank you!

OMG! 😱😰 I'm so sorry that happened to you. Wishing you all the best in your recovery.

About 15y ago my late father did similar thing. The wood piece caught the blade and flipped over his hand, smashing it against the table. They had to stick metal rods inside all his fingers and palm bones. After that 3 out of 5 of his fingers never recovered the ability to bend.

Oh man! YIKES!! I turned my saw off but didn’t wait for it to stop spinning. Missing half my ring finger now 🤕

I worked with a guy 30 years ago who was doing many small pieces, little blocks and they would build up near the blade. In his complacency he tried to clear them away with his hand but went though the blade rather than around. He now can't close his hand fully and because it cut the bone his hand aches every winter.

I absolutely agree on both of those points. I am a tradie, and one of our largest local Construction firms made an absolute rule that there was to be no music played on any of its sites. There was a LOT of whining and complaint, younger guys especially try to cheat, but they were able to prove that they had less accidents. I spoke to one of the OHS guys, and they said it was inarguable, having no music resulted in fewer accidents over a three year period.

I agree about having no distractions while you're using the table song I'm a hundred percent guilty of not having a clear for space in front of me when I'm working a table saw that's one of the things that I am working on thank you for reminding me how much of a dumbass I am

I taught machine shop for many years at a community college. NO MUSIC! I can hear when a machine is being misused with no background noise present. And besides, how could we ever agree on what music to play if it were allowed?

Adding a few strips of grip tape to the floor in front of your saw adds piece of mind. Especially if your floor is painted and becomes slick when covered in sawdust. This is commonplace in many shops.

I practice tablesaw safety by never having/using one! Good luck to the fools that think their cabinet shops have to move faster and faster churning out cheapest to sell highest using unskilled labor and tablesaws.

Excellent advice. I’m certain you have saved many NEWBEES and pros alike fingers, eyes, hands etc Thanks

Thank you! That means a lot. I’m a one man band over here and one of the few people that enjoys the editing process

This familiarity issue happens with motorcycle riding as well.

Agreed. I always watch safety videos. Even if I have heard all the horror stories and statements about what causes kickback a million times, one more never hurts.

@Phlebas powerful enough to cut off fingers and give a good kickback

With these very nice DeWalt saws, Take your time to dial in the riving knife!!!! It's really tricky, I had to void my warranty by adding carefully measured and lapped (sanding) shim plates and longer M5 screws, AND grind the mounting grooves on the riving knife to ensure that it can be adjusted correctly in relation to the blade. It was refusing to be properly aligned with the width of the kerf (once locked into position) at all heights.

Great "Saw safety break down", almost think the title should say this. Saw Stops are nice but the average DIYer just do not have that kind of money to drop on one. most will have a dewalt, craftsman, or a delta.

I just wanna point out that I used policy genius because of another YT woodworker. I disclose that I had a woodworking business out of my house. Two months into my policy. I got a cancellation notice from the insurance company they set up and played havoc with my mortgage. I reached out to policy genius, and they did nothing to help me. I would not recommend them. It is crazy they continue to advertise with wood workers. I love your Contant.

@@michaelsummer7082 That's sadly a side effect of sponsorships. The content creator has no obligation to vet the sponsor, just to make the adspot and collect the check. This bothers me the most because the content creators make it seem like they've been using the sponsored product for years, even though they've probably never given them more than a passing glance. Sponsorships in general are trash, and they devalue the actual content, but I understand that it all comes down to the money. Aside from a few, like rockler, power and hand tool brands, the products being advertised are usually garbage and not worth anyone's time and money. If they were, they wouldn't have to spend copious amounts of cash on fake, intrusive adspots. So I just skip past them.

Why u deleted your how i got 100k sub with just 20 video??? It was so inspirational. You talked about some genuinely good advice. It was very valuable to me i even downloaded it but now cant find it coz you deleted it.

@@michaelsummer7082 Thats a bummer. They have been great for us. Sorry to hear that

Thanks Barry

Before I start I always take a deep breath, visualise the cut and expect the worst. I fear my saw so much that I can't get complacent.

Glad to help

Thank you!

I hate using the push stick. Actually , I've never used it :)

I just did the same and caught my finger. I got so lucky that it was just the edge and have no permanent damage. It almost when you think you can't hit rather than when actually making the cut.

For small repeated cuts, like say I've got to make 10 3 inch pieces of 1x2 or something...I'm using the miter saw. It's so much less likely to kick back or pull your hand into the work.

Thank you!

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Thanks Ryan! Calm waters and fair winds indeed, and no more cupped boards!

yeah the cupped / twisted tip was a new one for me too, thinking back on some tricky cuts I've made makes me go, 'ah, now it makes more sense'

+100 to locking the shop, and turning off the breakers to the machines at the end of the day.

My story was, I was about to rip a long piece of timber - goggles on , hearing protection on - dust extraction running, outfeed roller in place - push stick in hand. Ready ! (I hate ripping long pieces) and then I glance down to my left to see a teddy bear and two gigantic big eyes peering up from under the left wing of my table saw. My, then, 2 year old had heard Daddy in the garage, grabbed teddy, went out the back door, around the house and snuck into the garage just as I may have had my back turned (the garage was a bit cluttered) and then placed herself under the wing of the saw...... the thought still makes my heart skip ! she's now 17 but I still can remember those big eyes peering up at me...

Similar to people buying cheap welding machines, having little to no training and welding on vehicle frames. It's scary to think some of the vehicles that will be on the road @80 mph here within the next decade. UKposts is great but also empowers some of the wrong people.

In the US almost every public school has shop class where we also learn this. But not everyone takes it, or takes it seriously, and some schools in cities are have more students than shop space. While there is no license, those classes generally go from beginner to advanced as well usually by semester or year. Its not a lack of availability of the information. Its mainly apathy of people seeing consumer goods readily available and not having an innate sense of how dangerous these tools are by their very nature.

Lol. Leave it to Germany to make a licensing process. Is there anything you can do in Germany without some kind of license or bureaucratic process?

@@MrMojo271 now there´s a bitter person.

If you play banjo, you only need three fingers (plus a stump).

Decades ago, I worked in a development lab and fabrication shop for one of the Fortune 5 technical companies. The rule about removing all jewelry before using power tools was strictly enforced. We also had to remove our neckties.......... 🙂

Yeah, it also made me laugh that he is doing this whole video wearing a hoodie with the big tassles hanging down. I know he isn't wearing it to work in, but it's still funny.

@@1milliondogsat least he did specifically say to not wear what he was wearing

Same goes for welding. Seen some nasty vids on that. Certified TIG from Denmark here. Cheers and stay safe!

This is why silicone wedding rings are getting more popular. You can get them in any color or size and they are far safer than metal.

Riving knife - required. Magswitch featherboard - Ditto! Paired with board buddies or jess'm stock guides is even better. Gripper - I'm NOT a fan as it almost requires you to remove the blade guard (for the ones that go over the blade).

Yes great

Tbh, for the most part I kinda am, too, but deep down I’m also a bit glad about that fact…

Yeah. Wtf was that last accident guy thinking?

@@askomiko yeah that was easily the most egregious of the accident videos

Good point thanks

I had the same thing happening and discovered the cause the same way you did. Now I'm reminded to check that again, thx.

SawStop just recently released their job site saw that retails at $899. Nowhere near the price of the dewalt contractor saw, but it could be more attainable for some. I recently bit the bullet and purchased and it has been worth every penny. It's extremely well made and has the same safety technology as the rest of the SawStop line up. Again it's not a price point for everyone, but almost $1k cheaper than their next saw it should invite many more hobbyist into using a table saw with peace of mind.

@@crmyersdesigns8961 A fair point, but its also not just about the cost of the saw, but the cost of the safety cartridges as well. A SawStop replacement cartridge runs nearly $100, plus you need a completely different model of cartridge for 10" blades and 8" dado stacks (one will not work with the other and the liability & warranty disclaimers consider this). True, a bill is a small price to pay for a finger, but taking humidity misfires into account will also make this add up quite a bit over time.

@@Rycel2001 the price of the cartridge is less than a hospital bill. And keeping your digits your limbs and your life is priceless.

@@PatrickPecoraro Certainly, but I'm just saying that its also something that adds to the cost which is keeping people from being able to afford it.

@@Rycel2001 I’ve had a sawstop for 10yrs. I routinely cut hardwoods, plastics, aluminum, and wet pine directly off my sawmill. I’ve yet to trip the saw/replace a cartridge. I know far too many experienced carpenters and woodworkers with missing fingers.

You didn't notice that in just about all of the clips, the people were using the saw carelessly or foolishly - almost all without the blade guard? A simple leather apron would probably mitigate the dangers of any kickback for those times when you do have a legit accident...but most of the injuries stem from people rushing (for no good reason) or making cuts that would better be done with another tool. The sawstop mechanism can be triggered from static, which can build up if you ever try cutting materials like acrylic or composite materials that contain some kind of foam. The mechanism will often damage/destroy the blade and you'll have to replace both the blade and the stop mechanism.

I've made my mistakes over the years and learned to be smarter. But when I decided to go for new saw I ultimately went with Sawstop 36 and love it . Great setup

It is not a bad idea to leave master switches powered off or machines unplugged (or both) if there is a chance that children can access the workshop without your being there. That's my routine when the grandkids come to visit. Plugs pulled, master switches off, doors locked.

@@alphaforce6998, you can make no argument that a Saw Stop or similar machine should not be used routinely. People should work more intelligently and more safely, agreed. Depriving them or anyone else using the equipment from protection when they do not is a ridiculous conceit. Kick back injuries are not only from impact, but also may drag a digit into the blade. Saw Stop makes good provision for conveniently disabling the feature when conducting operations likely to trigger the cartridge. One proper deployment of the feature will pay for countless false triggerings, even so. In fact, the amount of money that accident victims are out of pocket usually exceeds the cost of a top-of-the-line Saw Stop, plus all the other machinery you are likely to have in a shop, commercial or amateur. Not even considering lost wages, or the possibility of not being able to return to your line of work. Car crashes are vastly more survivable in current times not only because of mandated active and passive safety equipment, but also because the design of cars has sensibly changed to absorb the energies while providing a non-penetrable safety cell in the cockpit. In any industry, change costs money, and is therefore resisted by the manufacturers and even some users. Just like the Saw Stop. Knock off trying to convince people that they would be better off without one.

@@leehaelters6182 I'm sure you'd encase yourself in thousands of dollars of protective gear if you had the balls to ride a motorcycle, thinking that you're "safer" when in reality it increases the chance that you will be in some kind of collision. Why? Because you suffer drastic reduction in visibility, situational awareness, and the stiffness of the suit makes you slower to react quickly if need be. Likewise, a saw stop will cause you to feel safer taking "risks" and doing cuts that you would otherwise not do, because you believe your safe even if you do slip up. Saw stop will do nothing for kickback type events because these usually do not involve you touching the blade...and if your fingers were that close to the blade or you were doing something stupid like using the saw without a blade guard and anti-kickback pawls then it was user error yet again, and not something that some safety gimmick would address. It seems to me like you truly embraced fear and felt the need to drop $5K+ on a saw you probably use once every few months. Good for you. The points I raised in my response still stand, because just about every example showed poor practices and foolish attempts to make cuts that are not appropriate for a table saw.

you got your boobs? 😅😅😅

A trip to the emergency room to deal with a severe laceration / amputation and any resulting follow up surgeries to make your fingers / hand work again is way more expensive than the price of a SawStop.

Well and sensibly done, you.

I think statistically there are more router table injuries. But I'd imagine the injuries are much worse with a table saw.

Who ever taught you was wrong. Standing to the side can cause twisting, which can cause a kick back. Proper technique is square to the table, pressed up to it and leaning in.

100% with you. I've wired a 2nd stop button onto the side of mine for this reason. Safer, easier, better results. Not sure why the other comment wrote about twist etc, maybe they've never used a table saw?

@@JustinShaedo 20+ year cabinet maker. ✋🤚. All 10 fingers. Rule #1, never take safety advice from someone with missing fingers. Rule #2, it is far safer to be fully squares to the table saw and behind and over the piece. It's a body mechanics thing. If you stand to the side, your body is naturally twisting. Like throwing a ball, shooting a rifle, etc, if not done properly, you start twisting unnaturally, causing the piece to twist. You will have kickbacks, you have to take them. Sounds strange, but apart from not pushing the piece through, cutting a twisted piece, using 2 fences, or working behind the blade, how you stand is what causes kickbacks. But, you can call me an asshole and ignore. You'll remember me when you're digging your fingers out of a dustbin. 🤷

Interesting, I never stand to the side. Larger pieces, especially, i feel safer standing square to the table so i can assure im pushing the wood against the fence the entire way through

A major issue is with the table saw design. Go look at the top end European models. They are designed to be stood alongside and they tend to be a lot more safety conscious over there. I built my own DIY table saw to see for myself, where I stand to the left with the fence between myself and the blade, with the blade on the right side with extra depth to the table. By hooking my thumbs on the fence, it's impossible for my hands to get near the blade in most instances, and it's a stretch to get them that close when doing thinner rips. Tabletop saws are a cheapest viable product, and the high end American saws are just over-engineered versions of that bad design. I'm not saying my DIY saw is perfect, but I looked at the body mechanics of what led to other people I personally witnessed send their hands into table saws and came up with a saw design that works for me. I'm certain smarter and better funded people than myself can make much better designs. Sadly, most people want something cheap so they can do things the way grandpappy did. As long as you maintain sufficient pressure on the board against the table and fence, I don't see how your body could cause the board to 'twist'. If you never put yours hands near the danger zone and your body is completely out of the way of a kickback, then you aren't going to get injured. With prices these days I'd imagine one hospital visit costs more than a couple truckloads of wood, so I'd rather ruin some boards in pursuit of better ways of doing things. I too still have all of my fingers, and so do the people that I have seen cut themselves and go to the hospital. That's not the gold standard of table saw safety.

Glad you liked it!

I could kiss you for that last part of the comment. Thank you

Same with many trades/activities

I agree. I lost part of a finger and mangled another by doing a "quick cut I've done hundreds of times before" and not following proper safety procedures. Instant regret.

the way I learned it is "saw injuries happen because of too much or too little fear."

True that. Second most dangerous tool is the one you’re afraid to use. The most dangerous tool is the one you’ve mastered & have no fear of it hurting you. Cheers!

Familiarity breeds contempt

Smart man. Hope your doing good 😊

Thank you!