"Unless you are living in a Tree or a Cave you have no right to be whining!*

@@johnslugger stop copy and pasting coments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*Greenpeace also burns thousands of gallons of diesel.*

Better watch out or they will put you in the green goulag

Not any worse than anything that has already been done. Actually a lot of what has already been done is way worse than this.

The planet is completely fine. It will still be orbiting our star indifferent of human activity for billions of years after humans no longer exist.

Are you being serious? Do you know about massive oil spills that constantly happen? Or the fact that the toxic chemicals used to make EV batteries are also used in oil refinement? There's no comparison in terms of environmental damage. You can't be this delusional. Not to mention that batteries are shifting to silicone based and away from lithium. There won't be any lithium batteries 5 years from now.

*How little you know about the worlds FOOD SUPPLY. How do you think we got from 500M people in 1820 to 7B today??? OIL ENERGY! No more oil means you starve! The Electric car will be followed by the electric farm tractor.*

Lots

all of em

Nothing can be done

We have tons of it we're I'm from, the broblem is that we rely on sea as it been a part of our culture, while it also help with our main economy that is tourism which Im not a fan of. But there has been a long discussion for a couple of years in politics, saying that it will make us rich, but it could end with an environmental cost. Which is obviously not popular with the people. So they are trying to come up with a safer option to collect it, but that is if there is a safer option?

@@Ochay682 more research needs to be done on deep sea harvesting to understand its implications on marine ecosystem.

They say "Everything's bigger in Texas" and Australia is basically an even bigger Texas!

Trumps not in Australia 😂

@@Smashyourmom1000 that's what makes it awesome

It's the reporters the American reporters always seem fake and boring

@@jessepage8268 it's not that they are fake 60mins reputation is flawless it's the type of stories that they cover that makes it badass. I never heard fake news until trump do you know where the majority of intelligence agencies get their information? News reporters and articles because they collect information the same way.

...with hardhats... yeaaa

If you think this in mining then you probably think picking up shells from the beach is mining. The large machines that pick the stones up look concerning but if the opperations are over looked by a third party conservation team then I have no problem with it.

@@bradtaylor77what a horrible analogy, comparing picking up seashells on the shore with your own bare hands to sending 35ton machinery 3 miles under the deep sea off a huge ship burning massive amounts of fossil fuels. Try again. You also trust the UN to regulate things properly too, oh how gullible and naive some people are. If you knew anything of how the UN works and how much corruption and inefficiency exists, you wouldn’t be commenting such nonsense.

@@bradtaylor77 MINE your own business!!! :P

​​@@bradtaylor77 If it systematic and industrial scale "picking up sea shells on the beach", yes it is mining. To be exact, this is strip mining.

... &, like, Shi Halud IS climate change ...

... & possibly individual nodules are harbouring living microbial entities-??? ...

... & Shi Halud is climate change ...

And we all know its MONEY.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

The alternative is we stay using fossil fuel. Because electric devices and vehicles need metals.

"Unless you are living in a Tree or a Cave you have no right to be whining!*

“Strip Harvesting”

Only an office worker could say that with a straight face.

Oml 😂 ol corny as' Neega

Lol ya 60 minutes has lost all credibility I watch it for laughs now

I was thinking the exact same thing, haha.

AmeriKKKa’s poor track record with slavery scares me…!!! AmeriKKKa has become a 3rd World Country.

Top polluting country given the biggest share to pollute and destroy a part of the ocean, yeah.

They are going to pump it to surface. It definitely wouldn't be practical to lift that up and down with load. Marine life will definitely be affected.

AMEN AMEN AMEN !!!! But DO NOT Use Plastic Straws!!!

I think if there were very few creatures down there and it was a quarter mile NOT 3 it might be worth it. But I wonder about the SHEER COSTS of this being viable. Nickel that they say is valuable here is ALMOST WORTHLESS and big mines in Australia are shutting down because they can't compete with Indonesian mines although we have GOOD reserves fairly rich. Copper wouldn't be worth it but the cobalt would be and lithium has taken a serious price hit. But lifting it all 3 miles up, and THEN transporting the HUGE weight back to an onshore processing plant would be the real cost killer. The salt water being corrosive means nothing. I have understanding in this area due to an apprenticeship I done relating to salt corrosion and protective coatings and other tricks and methods.

​@@OffGridInvestorcorrosion has everything to do with mining in this case. Saltwater will destroy stainless steel, it will destroy steel, it destroys aluminum, pretty much everything that comes in contact with salt water has a reduced life expectancy so that means an increased cost on the mining equipment, the boats snd everything in that damp environment. Those costs will have to be Incorporated to the overall cost of the material extraction and realistically they aren't miniscule generally speaking. Oil companies get away with oil or natural gas deposits/extraction just because of the volume and the value, (after you get the equipment set up and the hole drilled the cost can be figured out per barrel and every barrel if pretty much 100% oil with little to no bi products. Arguably ship wreck hunters mainly do it for the hobby but they justify it because of the potential value of the materials the they intend to salvage (think of Spanish ship wrecks from 200+ years ago). Now that isn't to say it is impossible to make a profit but it is definitely an added cost that has to be incorporated into the potential profit with this I definitely do not know everything about deep sea mining but the machinery to survive those pressures can't be cheap, add in corrosion resistance, wear and tear, and shipping costs and along with energy costs I would think it would have to be a huge deposit that is extremely valuable in a per ton context. I just can't see lithium, Cobalt or nickel having enough value in the foreseeable future to extract from 3 miles of ocean then ship 2000ish miles to land to refine it. Maybe I am wrong I just can't see it being profitable. I got a feeling it will be untapped / undiscovered on shore mining that will lower costs

@@AtomicReverend but he has an apprenticeShippingyard relating to salt corrosion

"Unless you are living in a Tree or a Cave and riding a Horse to work you have no right to be whining!*

So many buzzwords jammed into this almost 14 minute clip. All just to try and justify destroying the sea floor. Padding wallets that are already super thick.

Deep sea harvesting

He's a leftist too.

sean penn is equally the traitor as jane fonda. Both gave aid and comfor to the enemy during war. penn showed sadam love whilst our military, including myself, were in harm's way in Kuwait.

He got El Chapo, now looking for Davie Jones.

Should people swim to these to be green?

Checkout the fossil fuel scam 😊

Whats going to be burned to charge these free batteries from mother nature? Coal?

This is already sorted LONG ago. Korea has been recycling them in a processing plant they have for over 10 years now. Germany has just built one too. Few people even know about this.

It's called recycling.

@mhand6910 oh really...I guess just like the 90% of plastic they say we recycle but really don't. Sweet!

eat them you get iron to make your bones strong and lithium for ummmmm????????!!!!!!!????!?!?

Too bad anyone tries to research it they get called out for wanting to destroy the oceans. Meanwhile we continue to destroy the surface with mining when there is a potentially far less damaging way to mine on the sea floor.

@@freedomfighter22222 How do you know it's less damaging to the ocean? And what to do in about 50 years or less when those deposits are gone? Clean oceans are important to the health of the planet and to grow fish like tuna and mane others. Not sure this is the answer, but one thing for sure the energy needs worldwide are enormous! Oh and can the batteries be recycled? that would be a good start.

@@paulmadruga9786the rocks are sitting on top of the sea bed, there is no drilling involved, nothing is being released into the air and little to no pollutants are created. We have hundreds of oil companies drilling into the sea beds right now and people are worried about a few machines collecting stones at the bottom of the ocean.

So, let them harvest and then measure the damage, without a baseline?

Well it all depends on how efficient and cost effective this imaginary new battery is. Assuming it’s efficient and cost effective, my guess is they’ll stop mining these metals as intensively…

your lack of elemental electric potential knowledge is showing.

It's ALREADY happened. Graphite batteries. No lithium needed. The trouble is working out an efficient mass production method as current production is very slow. Samsung has a prototype phone with it and tesla is playing with it too.

​@@helloimclaudioalready here. Graphite batteries. They're trying to work out better methods of mass production. They don't catch on fire like lithium batteries either.

​@@fuckdyoud2734​already here. Graphite batteries. They're trying to work out better methods of mass production. They don't catch on fire like lithium batteries either. Tesla already has cobalt free lithium batteries and the cost of lithium now is quite low and the cost of nickel is so low that Australian mines are closing because it's no longer profitable

Good point. Like "Harvesting" natures water filters. Seems like a bad idea now for sure.

"Unless you are living in a Tree or a Cave and riding a Horse to work you have no right to be whining!*

@@johnslugger stop copy and pasting coments and ya

The environment will have to step aside for this new green future. Just like here in Norway, where they have clear cut tens of thousands km2 of wilderness to build wind parks :) Cut down most of the 200 yr old trees in Oslo to make bike lanes

The EV "green" lie is collapsing.

the conservatives trying to use science makes me laugh so hard.

FYI a "dead" battery is simply one that has entered an electric state of relative homeostasis. REcharging a battery is done how? By plugging it in, and reverting the ions to a higher energy state. This can be done with a charger, another battery and a correct down-flow setup. In the same way that a galvanic salt crystal battery can be maintained by keeping the anodes and cathodes clean and replacing them and also maintaining the correct salinity, so to can metal ion batteries be maintained or recycled into other uses. Be it fertilizer, catalysts for chemical reactions. Coatings, wirings, reforged into spoons, hell who knows. Your lack of creativity is showing.

​@@fuckdyoud2734they're not going to recycle it dude lmao

International waters above.

only for research purposes for now

The investors won't go themselves - as usual they'll send down others, to face terrible conditions at terrible terms

Why scared?

because at 20 feet you can barely see the surface a major factor is the water visibility. Scuba diving in Bermuda wasnt bad because the water is clear. Its not as fun when you cant see @@xploration1437

Good thing we aren't sending people down there lol

maybe not in this video but saturation diving is used by oil rigs @@lawrencefrost9063

Indeed.

Wdym

Really !

3/4 of the earth's surface is made up of a dilute solution of these "rare" minerals.

Just like harvesting wild mushrooms and wild berries

@@kangkim150that’s called foraging.

Collecting would be a better word.

​@@lawrencefrost9063 Strip mining is much more accurate.

Almost nothing except not participating.

Plenty. I question the economic viability of it with nickel and lithium taking such a price hit in recent times. It's ONLY 3 MILES down and can only be accessed by a scoop.

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"Unless you are living in a Tree, Cave and riding a Horse to work you have no right to be whining!*

thats right baby, daddy needs a new tesla and i need it now

HAhahaha SPOT ON

@@daMillenialTrucker Destination Doomsday , in silence

So simplistic thinking.

Wait until we reach type I civilizations

Its harvested, like the vegetables you eat, or maybe you think those are mined as well?

4 billion is paradise

@@President_NotSurewydm. Are u talking about the population, also oils and gas is the option

That may be why God created it ! 👍🏼😉

oil absorbs earthquakes and tectonic plate shifts possible to move gentler than if it dissappears completely.

They won't scratch the seafloor and go bankrupt

Did you NOT HEAR ANYTHING THAT WAS SAID IN THIS VIDEO?

private corporations and governments: How about I do anyway? What are you going to do about it? Gonna Cry? You are just going to vote for the same person we want anyways we always give the illusion of choice every big candidate we put will still do the same just with a different political flavor. You always buy our products that you "need" anyways the same product you use to put comments in this youtube comment section.

You should move out of your house because the squirrels, deer and birds used to live there.

Do your part and stop using an electronic device!

Nothing lives there. It's like the surface of the moon.

Debeers also use a crawler and they definitely suck up sea creatures in the process

Debeers has cut off about 30% of natural coral reef production. But ok.

It's a lot of work. Grinding those rocks into powder, chemically separating the constituent metals (which has to happen on land in huge pools of chemicals that are evaporated to leave behind the separated metals), then further refining and cleansing before finally getting into a battery plant where the metals are mixed in the right proportions and glued to sheets of various plastics and vinyls that are then wrapped into cylindrical batteries. There is nothing green about lithium battery technology. The metals are hard to find, hard to process, and huge surface areas of land are required to refine them. It would be infinitely easier and produce exponentially more power if we simply built a lot of small, safe, nuclear power plants. Nothing beats nuclear power. Nothing even comes close.

Yes there are processing plants, that's how they refine lithium today. Contrary to what they tell you, lithium is not rare. What is rare is finding it in concentrations sufficient to make it profitable. Sea water contains all of these minerals, since that is how these nodules are formed. A permitted mine is what is rare, since they are ugly sources of pollution that require a lot of investment in equipment and in developed countries require the mining company to actually contain the pollution and do work restoring the land. It takes 7 or more years and millions of dollars just to obtain the permit before you can start mining. Essentially they are strip mining the sea floor, because it is cheaper than environmental impact studies and restoration work.

@@bry2k thanks

The accurate term is strip mining. From a business point of view it's brilliant, no need to do any surface restoration since nobody without a deep sea vessel will see the results. From an ecological point of view, we don't know what we don't know. I think perhaps a test should be conducted first, say a square mile, then come back in 5 years and do an actual study of the impact.

"Unless you are living in a Tree, Cave and riding a Horse to work you have no right to be whining!*

me too

Or the ecosystem

Fukushima already seems to have really affected that

I think the biggest problem is we have no clue how it will impact the sea and fishing. Strip mining the sea? What could possibly go wrong?

What laws are there to even control this under water mining, its not like a inspector can just turn up ... its going to be the wild west all over again but with unknown effects ... but as history suggests its going to happen & only once its been mined out will anything be done to help the ecosystem recover ... which it wont. @@john_in_phoenix

Its the wrong way to get away. Breaking something to fix something is not environmentalism.

You never finished high school, did you?

​@@xrfa7422nobody wants to buy EV anymore. They are dangerous and unnessesary😊

I certainly do. It was a genius cover story.

So when you pick berries in a forest you are ”mining”?

@@theonordlund1823 Berries ≠ minerals

The Greed and $$$$ table

Ahahahaha. You do realize fossil fuels are finite right? It's like Thanos said, EV's are inevitable. You keep living in the past brother.

Same thing we do with the lead from current car batteries. Eventually it will become a problem, and politicians will actually pass laws requiring recycling.