A lecture by Timothy Snyder at the Humanities Institute at Stony Brook, October 19, 2022.

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Sir Run Run Shaw lecture by New York Times Bestselling writer, Timothy Snyder, Yale University -- "The War in Ukraine and the Future of Democracy". At Stony Brook University, Stony Brook, NY.
For a generation we have been instructed that democracy is a function of larger, impersonal factors, yet both the assault on democracy in the US and the Russian invasion of Ukraine indicate that some of these forces may push in the opposite direction. More interestingly, the defense of democracy seems to involve an unavoidable ethical commitment. This suggests that the way we think and talk about democracy, and our willingness to take risks for it, are essential for its future.
Co-sponsored by the Humanities Institute at Stony Brook, the Center for Changing Systems of Power, and the Office of the Provost.

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@ivoryblack1701
@ivoryblack1701 Рік тому
I can't stress how important his work is to us Ukrainians. When I heard him recite Ukrainian poetry I burst into tears. It's an incredible feeling to be seen for what we are, instead of being routinely patronized, dismissed and smeared with lies amid another genocide at the hands of russians.
@raulgonzalez139
@raulgonzalez139 Рік тому
For this passing year I've learned about Ukraine, ukrainians and ukrainian language a LOT. I don't know if I know 1-2% of that before the war (isn't that sad, I'm from Poland!) When I was teenager I was close to go to Ukraine, but I couldn't. It is so refreshing to find many similiarities between us, and suprised by little differences. I feel like I found that my (not so well know) neighbour happens to be my lost-but-at-last-found cousin. Why oh why it's so late discovery? Did you made mistake (as Ukraine, not showing your beauty to the World more)? Did I just closed my eyes? Гарного дня
@michaelhannigan-cangiano
@michaelhannigan-cangiano Рік тому
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@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 Рік тому
Read some key points here: People die in Ukraine for American/USA political and economic interests. Ukraine was a state in the USSR, - the east of that Ukraine region was and is substantially ethnic Russian, and the Donbas / eastern Ukraine was part of Russia from the late 1700's till about 1922, but was not Ukraine prior to 1922, and was a state within the USSR till 1991. That's Russia's neighborhood. They're not going to let Crimea and the Donbas(and thereabouts) go to The West. Btw, I'm in The West, military central in SoCaL. But, east Ukraine region is historical Russian lands. That's Russia's core neighborhood. Leave it to them,… in peace. The issue here is the Donbas / eastern Ukraine plus Crimea, which is historical Russian land since the 1700's to about 1922, and Russia having a naval base in Crimea since the 1700's. Then the USSR happened, with Russia being the big dog state of the USSR, Ukraine being another state. And, the Russian Ruling Elite don't want The West to have that land by way of Ukraine. It's prime real estate, with a substantial Russian history and ethnic-Russian population, and it's a core of Russian history, it's core Russian neighborhood. Russia is taking a stand on multi-polarity of the world, along with China, in counter to The West / USA. Ukraine was a state within the USSR, Russia was the ruling state within the USSR, - land which was in the Russian borders was transferred to the Ukraine state,.. it was a transfer of convenience, and not a transfer to a 'sovereign nation'. Ukraine can't win on its own,… it's NATO/USA support which is necessary for Ukraine to win this war, so, it's a crucially collaborative effort. What Russia wants is to reclaim historical Russian land (Donbas and thereabouts, plus Ukraine) and keep that land. Ukraine going to The West basically means the land goes to The West. That's entirely unacceptable to Russia. So, compromise. Let Russia reclaim the eastern/southern lands of that region, and get back to peace and good productivity, rather than devastation.
@illyakysil8005
@illyakysil8005 Рік тому
@@bonsummers2657 your BS is taken care of in the first 20 minutes of this lecture
@loopyspacey6644
@loopyspacey6644 Рік тому
@Bon Summers to recap last 6-7 years, russians already had Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk, so what do you mean exactly by giving it to them to stop the war? As visible in practice, they want much more. These lands as well as Crimea are not historically russian. Moreover, Crimea historically belongs to Crimean Tatars and other ethnic groups, not russians. After russian genocide of Tatars it became as you call it "russian". In every city that russians take over they torture and kill civilians. Should Ukraine give up on its citizens and leave them to die because at some point in time russians lived there or because some people tend to speak russian there? In every country that has neighbors the languages are always mixed close to the boarders, the nationalities are always mixed as well, but there are borders and neighbors should respect them.
@GwynCann
@GwynCann Рік тому
I have not yet viewed the entire 23 weeks of Snyder's History of Ukraine Course at Yale, but I very strongly recommend it to everyone interested in Ukraine and the current war. This lecture is a worthy addition to that course (available for free on the internet). I stand in awe of Professor Snyder's grokking of this moment in history, and his willingness to share that knowledge with those of us who haven't conquered ten languages, five of them fluently. Thank you Professor Snyder, and thanks to Stoney Brook University for putting this out on the internet for the benefit of all believers in the democratic principle.
@jamesterwilliger3176
@jamesterwilliger3176 Рік тому
I just finished the full 23 lectures, and absolutely recommend the series as well.
@kaischafer8537
@kaischafer8537 Рік тому
It's definetively a must watch lecture!
@ceanothussoapary5998
@ceanothussoapary5998 Рік тому
The Yale course is on UKposts. I have seen it and do recommend it. Please read his books and look at the Ukerianian artists and writers who the West still don't attribute to Ukraine.
@whazzat8015
@whazzat8015 Рік тому
Watch it . total wowser. It's not just about Ukraine it is us. Listen to everything you can get from this guy. Even catch his wife's stuff.
@linchase
@linchase Рік тому
I loved every lecture in the series and I think we need to see it on Netflix for everyone to enjoy.
@geezzzwdf
@geezzzwdf Рік тому
His lectures on Ukraine at yale are greatly appreciated
@TheKirstebee
@TheKirstebee Рік тому
Yes. A gift to society. Check them out if you can.
@merriferrell2818
@merriferrell2818 Рік тому
He is the hardest working and most generous of scholars. He is constantly lecturing, writing, teaching and makes his work accessible.
@thefisherking78
@thefisherking78 Рік тому
I watched that whole recent series, all 23 lessons of an hour plus each, time well spent
@hawkbartril3016
@hawkbartril3016 Рік тому
3/4 of the way through he contradicts himself about Ukraine actually not winning. He was talking about democracy in the world as if their was going to be a radical change. This is someone I wouldn't trust. Notice he waited until nobody said anything before saying the programme was on the night earlier and in Russia, as if by some nano chance someone saw it. There are Russians in the US, hope they don't have to deal with this racist. Did he learn all those languages so he could yell abuse at more people in their own tongue.
@tarasmanolov
@tarasmanolov Рік тому
@@hawkbartril3016 Please, point out and present those contradictions for everyone to see. So far it's only you who noticed them.
@steve-real
@steve-real Рік тому
Timothy Snyder has changed the way I see humanity for the rest of my life. I took his Ukraine course on UKposts and I am half way through Bloodlands. How such a gentle, considerate, and very funny man delve in these horrors is a beyond me. I wept at some of the poetic moments in his course and book. Extremely profound experience that I can not thank him enough to take me on his journey with him.
@hawkbartril3016
@hawkbartril3016 Рік тому
When he first said that he didn't want to lecture a computer, I thought this one has arrogance and then the lies came. Not as many were said as he didn't say much. Didn't mention anything about the Ukrainians still shelling the civilians of the Donbass region, as they have for more than eight years now. Angela Merkel admitted that the Minsk Agreement was only made to give Ukraine time to build up a bigger army and more weapons so this idea it was unprovoked is a joke. Why were they building such a big army ? Obviously not to play in the sand
@Jan_Ledochowski
@Jan_Ledochowski Рік тому
@@hawkbartril3016, yes. I wonder what they built an army for. The neighbour to the east is so peaceful. What are they afraid of.
@steve-real
@steve-real Рік тому
@@Jan_Ledochowski That is some wry wit my friend.
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 Рік тому
Read some key points here: People die in Ukraine for American/USA political and economic interests. Ukraine was a state in the USSR, - the east of that Ukraine region was and is substantially ethnic Russian, and the Donbas / eastern Ukraine was part of Russia from the late 1700's till about 1922, but was not Ukraine prior to 1922, and was a state within the USSR till 1991. That's Russia's neighborhood. They're not going to let Crimea and the Donbas(and thereabouts) go to The West. Btw, I'm in The West, military central in SoCaL. But, east Ukraine region is historical Russian lands. That's Russia's core neighborhood. Leave it to them,… in peace. The issue here is the Donbas / eastern Ukraine plus Crimea, which is historical Russian land since the 1700's to about 1922, and Russia having a naval base in Crimea since the 1700's. Then the USSR happened, with Russia being the big dog state of the USSR, Ukraine being another state. And, the Russian Ruling Elite don't want The West to have that land by way of Ukraine. It's prime real estate, with a substantial Russian history and ethnic-Russian population, and it's a core of Russian history, it's core Russian neighborhood. Russia is taking a stand on multi-polarity of the world, along with China, in counter to The West / USA. Ukraine was a state within the USSR, Russia was the ruling state within the USSR, - land which was in the Russian borders was transferred to the Ukraine state,.. it was a transfer of convenience, and not a transfer to a 'sovereign nation'. Ukraine can't win on its own,… it's NATO/USA support which is necessary for Ukraine to win this war, so, it's a crucially collaborative effort. What Russia wants is to reclaim historical Russian land (Donbas and thereabouts, plus Ukraine) and keep that land. Ukraine going to The West basically means the land goes to The West. That's entirely unacceptable to Russia. So, compromise. Let Russia reclaim the eastern/southern lands of that region, and get back to peace and good productivity, rather than devastation.
@steve-real
@steve-real Рік тому
@@bonsummers2657 Russia is an empire. These are colonized lands. The Ukrainians in the Donbas speak Russian but they aren’t Russian. They voted overwhelmingly to be an independent country. You’re historical analysis is so divorced from reality. Why do you think over 180,000 Russian soldiers have been killed and wounded in Ukraine? The Russians just don’t get it. They should walk away and go back to their mama’s dacha and leave the Ukrainian peoples alone. What’s so hard about that? Take the summer off Russia and go home. I’ll buy the drinks and food.
@Tsilyachzhi
@Tsilyachzhi Рік тому
He is so smart and so gentle. I don't know how to explain this. A decent human being and a great historian 🖤
@danielhutchinson6604
@danielhutchinson6604 Рік тому
He enjoys describing Russia exploiting Europe and seems to overlook the vastly more expensive efforts of US Oligarchs to exploit European Consumers with LNG? You might want to question his motivation as well as his supporters? Forcing Russia out of business so the US can discover profits, is creating more complex and destructive effects than if Russia were to continue to provide cheap Gas to Europe. The fact that US LNG was only selling around 20% of Europe's market as Russia had built a pipeline that would have moved them from supplying 40% of demand to around 70%. The current LNG providers appear to be far short of the ability to supply enough fuel for Europe to survive a cold Winter. Exploiting Europe to support US GDP seems to demonstrate the ethics that enabled the Standard Oil Company to become the Monopoly that was at one time condemned by the US.
@rosemarieholt2261
@rosemarieholt2261 Рік тому
Dad humor
@geoffreylachner6779
@geoffreylachner6779 Рік тому
Nothing gentle about the effect of his speech, maybe as gentle as Condoleeza Rice.
@danielhutchinson6604
@danielhutchinson6604 Рік тому
@@geoffreylachner6779 The economic effects of a Condi Rice Safari Tour to discover that WMD program that the former Secretary of State was selling seems to indicate her lack of scruples? Victoria Nuland appears to have endured through bombing Kosovo to the effects of shoving Scooter Libby under a Bus over some Yellowcake Lies? The US appears to enable some spectacular liars?
@Anna-tj7mp
@Anna-tj7mp Рік тому
That's it, Taya Taya. I have known so many people who make a living from the study of violence, or democracy, who are simply climbing the greasy pole of academic life. I love this man's work at so many levels. His wife Marco Shore is pretty amazing too.
@maxmeier8784
@maxmeier8784 Рік тому
to me as a german he has to give so many reflections and things to think about connected to history. his is so aware and on pulse of the time its awesome. he needs more attention
@nescius2
@nescius2 Рік тому
halo neighbour! make sure to take a look at his recent Yale course on Ukraine's history.. (i am here to fix my need for more Snyder after watching the entire 22 lectures about it)
@merriferrell2818
@merriferrell2818 Рік тому
...and in so many formats. I first read him.in the NYRB. Then I read his books. He is tireless and so amazing, an advocate for humanity
@maxmeier8784
@maxmeier8784 Рік тому
@@nescius2 I already did.
@p.h.3987
@p.h.3987 Рік тому
Sadly, though, he gets post-WW II-Germany completely wrong and refuses to concede on ANY of his positions. THAT overshadows his work for me. And many others, btw.
@nescius2
@nescius2 Рік тому
@@p.h.3987 that's literally a hyperbole, but as they say "noone can hear you being nuanced on the internets" ...do you mind sharing that nuances with us?
@leorivers7759
@leorivers7759 Рік тому
PLEASE change the title of this VIDEO to the title of the lecture "The War in Ukraine and the Future of Democracy". Many more viewers will find it and be attracted to it. I never go to films by choosing a mall to see a film in. This lecture is a fantastic exercise in stretching your mind by examining events and history.
@BM-ur4je
@BM-ur4je Рік тому
Absolutely. Prof Snyder is turning "legendary" without a doubt. Very grateful for his time and wisdom.
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 Рік тому
Read some key points here: People die in Ukraine for American/USA political and economic interests. Ukraine was a state in the USSR, - the east of that Ukraine region was and is substantially ethnic Russian, and the Donbas / eastern Ukraine was part of Russia from the late 1700's till about 1922, but was not Ukraine prior to 1922, and was a state within the USSR till 1991. That's Russia's neighborhood. They're not going to let Crimea and the Donbas(and thereabouts) go to The West. Btw, I'm in The West, military central in SoCaL. But, east Ukraine region is historical Russian lands. That's Russia's core neighborhood. Leave it to them,… in peace. The issue here is the Donbas / eastern Ukraine plus Crimea, which is historical Russian land since the 1700's to about 1922, and Russia having a naval base in Crimea since the 1700's. Then the USSR happened, with Russia being the big dog state of the USSR, Ukraine being another state. And, the Russian Ruling Elite don't want The West to have that land by way of Ukraine. It's prime real estate, with a substantial Russian history and ethnic-Russian population, and it's a core of Russian history, it's core Russian neighborhood. Russia is taking a stand on multi-polarity of the world, along with China, in counter to The West / USA. Ukraine was a state within the USSR, Russia was the ruling state within the USSR, - land which was in the Russian borders was transferred to the Ukraine state,.. it was a transfer of convenience, and not a transfer to a 'sovereign nation'. Ukraine can't win on its own,… it's NATO/USA support which is necessary for Ukraine to win this war, so, it's a crucially collaborative effort. What Russia wants is to reclaim historical Russian land (Donbas and thereabouts, plus Ukraine) and keep that land. Ukraine going to The West basically means the land goes to The West. That's entirely unacceptable to Russia. So, compromise. Let Russia reclaim the eastern/southern lands of that region, and get back to peace and good productivity, rather than devastation.
@ihorku
@ihorku Рік тому
Dear Mr.Snyder, Thank you so much for your fantastic course on the making of modern Ukraine. I've never ever heard anything so logical, so precise, so emotional about the history of my country. I've gone through all the lectures on the fly within 3 days. Wish all Ukrainians would listen to this great story as many of the facts I'm sure are unknown to many of them. Your passion for the Ukrainian history is beyound imagination, you are true ukrainian lover. Thank you so much!
@kevinmayer8055
@kevinmayer8055 Рік тому
He is not only a brilliant scholar, but much more valuably and importantly a vital, engaged and honest thinker. Thank you for this wonderful program!
@koda0004
@koda0004 Рік тому
Thank you Timothy Snyder. Just read Bloodlands, and was blown away. Thanks for taking time to talk to american students about the idea of democracy and the idea of a nation. I will use this video in my class. Thx from Denmark.
@sorational
@sorational Рік тому
Amazing lecture together with the Yale course. Fascinating thoughts and ideas.
@jefftheriault5522
@jefftheriault5522 Рік тому
This lecture should be a nationally broadcast item.
@peterdollins3610
@peterdollins3610 8 місяців тому
i'm grateful there are such knowledgable, intelligent people as professor Snyder in our world.
@padellina9596
@padellina9596 Рік тому
Timothy Snyder’s YALE course this fall is a must-hear. All 23 lectures are on UKposts. He is the master in explaining what history is and what it is not; what democracy is and what it is not; what patriotism is and what it is not. Yes, he is the Professor in the fields of Bloodlands, Black Earth, and Reconstruction of Nations, in the far east of Europe. Yet all those themes and exquisite books always show us not only Ukraine and her peoples, perhaps not even primarily them. It’s about the vultures for centuries encircling them - Rzeczpospolitans, Tsarists, Nazis, Stalinists, and yes, Putinists. Ultimately, his lessons are about imperial dominance of real, percieved and desired colonies, no matter which part of the world one talks about.
@frederikbjerre427
@frederikbjerre427 Рік тому
I agree, one can learn a lot from those lectures.
@maxmacken8859
@maxmacken8859 Рік тому
Be careful you are not just taking what Timothy Snyder is saying without critical reflection. Snyder is arguing for what he believes democracy to be, he doesn't own the definition. All of these terms you use, history, democracy, and patriotism are contested subjects among experts. Mearsheimer and Niall Ferguson for example may have a different view.
@padellina9596
@padellina9596 Рік тому
Yeah. Let me throw in another contested term: Extremist. Your first example is far to the left, and the other one far to the right. At least, to my taste. But of course, that’s what I think. Others may think differently. Others may also think Golden T is still President. And then again, some may think he is, has been, and always will be a traitor. Hard to tell, right?
@maxmacken8859
@maxmacken8859 Рік тому
@@padellina9596Yes, that is your opinion, I could have named any historian. Well yes, it takes a lot of work but to understand history one should read as widely and as critically, unideologically and unbiasedly as possible. Then based on the evidence you have read, you make up your mind. If you don't read people who disagree with (with an open mind) you are not doing history. You are just agreeing with a certain narrative interpretation of historical events.
@p.h.3987
@p.h.3987 Рік тому
@@maxmacken8859 Mearsheimer at least has shot himself into the foot. And he really isn't part of reality now. See chanel of Vlad Vexler.
@olena8098
@olena8098 Рік тому
Дуже дякую за цю лекцію
@slsmith9281
@slsmith9281 Рік тому
Enjoyed the talk today on every level. Nice segue from the 23 classes of history over the past weeks to winning, democracy and the future. BRAVO , Professor Snyder. I hope to see part of that future.
@joepanzica
@joepanzica Рік тому
So much brilliance, depth, and inspiration. And two related points: 1. No matter how many talks Snyder gives he alway offers fascinating new facets of his major points and often new revelations that need to be considered very seriously. And 2: reading through this comment thread, his seriousness and kind gentleness is reflected in nearly all (truly all?) the postings. How often is this found on the internet. (Where are the trolls?)
@thedownwardmachine
@thedownwardmachine Рік тому
When Snyder says that we should not give in to the deception that structural factors are politically deterministic, it reminds me of the David Graeber quote: “The ultimate hidden truth of the world is that it is something we make and could just as easily make differently.”
@cv990a4
@cv990a4 Рік тому
Yes! Institutions are human creations. We can create them how we see fit.
@jeffberner8206
@jeffberner8206 Рік тому
Timothy Snyder ties so many concepts together in this lecture so seamlessly. It does so much to explain the current political situation in the United States where 40 years of free market ideology have created a deterministic mindset in its citizens that they have no political voice and agency of their own. Snyder explains how that results in the fascist trait of defining the other, which is a characteristic of our venomous politics. According to Snyder, what is important to break through and to strengthen our Democracy is to demand of others that they describe themselves as who they are rather than who they are not. And importantly to come into the political discussion of a positive vision of the future where individuals have agency and choice in the outcomes.
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 Рік тому
You speak of the Democrat/Leftist platform.
@garethsmith3036
@garethsmith3036 Рік тому
I am slowly realizing just how great this lecture is. Even down to the level of craft.
@Tsilyachzhi
@Tsilyachzhi Рік тому
This is incredible really. Im in Ukraine right now in Kyiv and we didn't really see or understand that this war is important not only for us as ukrainians. Because that's how we perceive it as war for freedom. Maybe our final war which we will win We didn"t really understand, that we are here kinda ab example for all "sleeping" and totally awake authoritarian countries all around the world. Didn't think about our war with such angle Wow, such a responsibility 😅
@Evan490BC
@Evan490BC Рік тому
I am convinced that Ukraine will win Putler's war. The reason is because you fight for your homeland and its people. Слава Україні! from Great Britain.
@merriferrell2818
@merriferrell2818 Рік тому
This war and it's outcome will make a difference in global Democracy. We owe so much to the brave Ukrainians who are fighting and suffering for what will.matter.to all of us, including.Americans..Putin wants to destroy the west as well as Ukraine.
@marinabernstein7768
@marinabernstein7768 Рік тому
Слава Украине ❤
@medeology4660
@medeology4660 Рік тому
The responsibility is really on all the rest of us europeans to support Ukrainians. We are the homefront in this war and we owe ukrainians everything. We are deeply indebted to Ukraine. Every russian tank burning in Ukraine is a tank that will not roll into Estonia or Poland. Every russian ship sunk in the Black Sea will not threaten the coast of Sweden. The fierce, brave and brilliant Ukrainian resistance is a warning to Russia not to even look sideways at Khazakstan or Georgia again. So Слава Україні, and may the invaders melt away як роса на сонці.
@hawkbartril3016
@hawkbartril3016 Рік тому
You should try telling that to all those poor men who died so the west could TRY to oust Putin and start robbing like they do to the Africans, but they used Ukraine as a battering ram and every last man. And what does this so called educated man tell you of that ?
@krislaffredi3622
@krislaffredi3622 Рік тому
Timothy Snyder is a great speaker. I would be so nervous to stand up there and talk about this stuff but he nails it every time. It also helps he knows his stuff.
@kyivstuff
@kyivstuff Рік тому
Timothy Snyder has great presentation technique. Interesting tie to the room.
@sosrope3420
@sosrope3420 Рік тому
He deliberately avoids technique, he personalises his talks.
@pcopeland15
@pcopeland15 2 місяці тому
This man adds so much clarity.
@williamleematis797
@williamleematis797 Рік тому
I watched the lecture with bated breath, wondering whether Dr. Snyder would actually take a sip from his cup of coffee.
@brucejones3308
@brucejones3308 Рік тому
I watched his entire class this semester and never saw him actually get a drink. Thought I was the only one who noticed.
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen Рік тому
@@brucejones3308 I forget that too, when I lecture. I usually do not bring any these days.
@spacelemur7955
@spacelemur7955 10 місяців тому
As part of monitoring his Ukrainian History course, I began reading his books and and UKposts video in which he talks. In everything he does he drops incredible truth bombs that just gives one Eureka moment after the other. It's like the insights from being on drugs without needing the drugs.
@maxmeier8784
@maxmeier8784 Рік тому
"this war has to be won so that there can be a future" !!!
@eliseleonard3477
@eliseleonard3477 Рік тому
Great lecture as always from Prof Snyder! His Yale course on History of Ukraine is on YT and incredibly useful for understanding the war day by day.
@katerinastavska7284
@katerinastavska7284 Рік тому
It was amazing! Thank you!
@Anavllama
@Anavllama Рік тому
My wife and I fall asleep listening to those lectures they are fantastic and prescient. It may take us a while but revisiting lectures really helps LOL. In the meantime I am trying to understand how Czechoslovakia was formed and then why it amicably split ( a role mode separation if there ever was one)!
@bledule86
@bledule86 Рік тому
Because they were bros-bros and still are. They just wanted to rule themselves. And, what do you know, it was possible.
@sosrope3420
@sosrope3420 Рік тому
How can you fall asleep?! These lectures are gripping.
@Anavllama
@Anavllama Рік тому
@@sosrope3420 Haha, its either sarcasm or you get up late in the morning and can stay up late after everything else in the day is done..........
@sosrope3420
@sosrope3420 Рік тому
@@Anavllama I've been literally eating and sleeping them, staying up way too late (Europe time zone) or watching over dinner / chores as soon as they drop
@k_tell
@k_tell Рік тому
Whilst the Velvet Divorce was bloodless and perhaps could be described as a "role model" for separation (for couples, divorce is rarely pretty, but it is better than murder) I think it is worth pointing out that it probably would not have happened if it wasn't for the dubious politics of Vladimír Mečiar. I don't know much about him, but I spent some time in the Czech republic back in late 1997 and both Czechs and Slovaks were telling me he was an autocratic nationalist who wiped up nationalism in Slovakia to engineer majority support for the Divorce. At that time, almost 5 years after the divorce, I was told that the majorities had changed. I.e. in 1992/93 Czechs were against it and Slovaks were for it, having been told by Mečiar how wonderful life was going to be once they had escaped the Czech yoke. But by late 1997 Slovaks would have voted to restore Czechoslovakia, but the majority of Czechs were, by then, very happy that the split had occurred. I could be wrong, this is all based on random conversations I had at the time. I'm no historian/political theorist, I work in IT.
@NatalkaPetrenko
@NatalkaPetrenko Рік тому
A lot of good and interesting thoughts
@bluenick62
@bluenick62 Рік тому
Good stuff...as always, Tim.
@loisschultz8889
@loisschultz8889 Рік тому
Excellent presentation ❤
@doxun7823
@doxun7823 Рік тому
Lecture starts at 5:12
@kyivstuff
@kyivstuff Рік тому
Thank you!
@edwardmeade
@edwardmeade Рік тому
He is very clearly uncomfortable with the somewhat over the top introduction. TL:DR version: She really admires him. Now, let's get to the meat of the lecture.
@Dreju78
@Dreju78 Рік тому
Not all heroes wear capes! 😉 Thanks
@normanguinasso3760
@normanguinasso3760 Рік тому
Dont miss the wonderfiul introduction.
@sosrope3420
@sosrope3420 Рік тому
@@edwardmeade it boils down to "actually, this guy knows what he's talking about"
@thefisherking78
@thefisherking78 Рік тому
Timothy Snyder is such a gift
@juligrlee556
@juligrlee556 Рік тому
Thank you Dr. Snyder for your truth telling and clarifying analysis.
@lylaclark3977
@lylaclark3977 Рік тому
I knew Zelensky wldnt run either! Being Irish, it's just in my DNA to stand your ground when pitied against Empire, Esp the Russian Thug Putin is, And esp with the Ukrainian People in such need of such a Leader of Zelensky in their moment of need🇺🇦. Such Respect to him and his Men and Women in current Leadership and Govt who stayed 🇺🇦. Zelensky should be known in History as: 'The Leader who Stayed'. Even now with the War at its most difficult Dec 2022, with Putin and the Russian Army weaponizing Winter in their very admitted to War Crime, the Ukrainian People and the Ukrainian Army and Govt will prevail in this War, and will utterly achieve in their Spirit as the Ukrainian People the European Future they want , always honouring their Fallen Heros 🇺🇦 🌻🌻. Putin, on the other hand, is already Afterthought! **Thank you Professor Snyder for bring the warning that was needed to wake other countries and People up to the 'protection of Democracy in the West', as the German Govt are learning this 1rst week of Dec 2022 . We Cassandras are out there, and are being listened to now at this juncture ! Every Democratic Country needs to assess itself now and become more robust as the democracies of the World, Esp in the West. Having the Vital Understanding: A Democracy is only as strong as it's Representatives and Electorate are 👍👍 Slava Ukraine 💛🇺🇦
@big1dog23
@big1dog23 Рік тому
OUTSTANDING. And I'm a Russian troll, lol.
@nemeczek67
@nemeczek67 Рік тому
19:55 "Tanks filled with sunflower oil" amused me for a moment.
@frexagon1
@frexagon1 Рік тому
Ukraine is the biggest producer of sunflower oil on the planet
@jefftheriault5522
@jefftheriault5522 Рік тому
Storage tanks. Tanks as a rule, make mediocre storage containers. Too much gear inside to contaminate what gets poured in. And too many points for leaks to occur.
@mariamivanidze9116
@mariamivanidze9116 Рік тому
his 23-lecture course in Yale University is a must watch for everyone. great reading material as well
@michaelmazowiecki9195
@michaelmazowiecki9195 Рік тому
The Russian Federation should be renamed the Russian Empire which would be far more accurate, closer to the reality. Russians are currently the largest minority within Russia, not a majority.
@merriferrell2818
@merriferrell2818 Рік тому
I am so sorry to have missed this. I have traveled far to hear him, but Stony Brook is very close.
@theotheorie4941
@theotheorie4941 Рік тому
thx a lot .. slava ukraini .. geets from germany
@DominicDSouza
@DominicDSouza Рік тому
Wonderful lecture and thank you so much to Timothy Snyder. Truly great to hear his perspective given his deep knowledge of the cultures and historical context. Many points to call out but the one regarding equipping children to develop the ability to hear all the facts and sides and make rational choice is real freedom (sorry not his exact words but hopefully correct gist)
@stormythelowcountrykitty7147
@stormythelowcountrykitty7147 Рік тому
Very helpful
@kristinamelnichenko5775
@kristinamelnichenko5775 Рік тому
1:04:00 is that Jason Stanley in the front row?? This was amazing. Glory to 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!
@IVIC01
@IVIC01 Рік тому
I would love to see him and John Mearshiemer debate.
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 Рік тому
Read some key points here: People die in Ukraine for American/USA political and economic interests. Ukraine was a state in the USSR, - the east of that Ukraine region was and is substantially ethnic Russian, and the Donbas / eastern Ukraine was part of Russia from the late 1700's till about 1922, but was not Ukraine prior to 1922, and was a state within the USSR till 1991. That's Russia's neighborhood. They're not going to let Crimea and the Donbas(and thereabouts) go to The West. Btw, I'm in The West, military central in SoCaL. But, east Ukraine region is historical Russian lands. That's Russia's core neighborhood. Leave it to them,… in peace. The issue here is the Donbas / eastern Ukraine plus Crimea, which is historical Russian land since the 1700's to about 1922, and Russia having a naval base in Crimea since the 1700's. Then the USSR happened, with Russia being the big dog state of the USSR, Ukraine being another state. And, the Russian Ruling Elite don't want The West to have that land by way of Ukraine. It's prime real estate, with a substantial Russian history and ethnic-Russian population, and it's a core of Russian history, it's core Russian neighborhood. Russia is taking a stand on multi-polarity of the world, along with China, in counter to The West / USA. Ukraine was a state within the USSR, Russia was the ruling state within the USSR, - land which was in the Russian borders was transferred to the Ukraine state,.. it was a transfer of convenience, and not a transfer to a 'sovereign nation'. Ukraine can't win on its own,… it's NATO/USA support which is necessary for Ukraine to win this war, so, it's a crucially collaborative effort. What Russia wants is to reclaim historical Russian land (Donbas and thereabouts, plus Ukraine) and keep that land. Ukraine going to The West basically means the land goes to The West. That's entirely unacceptable to Russia. So, compromise. Let Russia reclaim the eastern/southern lands of that region, and get back to peace and good productivity, rather than devastation.
@feynou
@feynou Рік тому
@@bonsummers2657 BS💩
@karenlankford8558
@karenlankford8558 Рік тому
Actually, from the start, I thought that Ukraine could win, but that it was by no means certain. There were strengths and weaknesses on both side and one thing on Ukraine's side was that they were less surprised by the invasion than most of the invading troupes, who had been told right up until the last minute that they were just on a training exercise.
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 Рік тому
Read some key points here: People die in Ukraine for American/USA political and economic interests. Ukraine was a state in the USSR, - the east of that Ukraine region was and is substantially ethnic Russian, and the Donbas / eastern Ukraine was part of Russia from the late 1700's till about 1922, but was not Ukraine prior to 1922, and was a state within the USSR till 1991. That's Russia's neighborhood. They're not going to let Crimea and the Donbas(and thereabouts) go to The West. Btw, I'm in The West, military central in SoCaL. But, east Ukraine region is historical Russian lands. That's Russia's core neighborhood. Leave it to them,… in peace. The issue here is the Donbas / eastern Ukraine plus Crimea, which is historical Russian land since the 1700's to about 1922, and Russia having a naval base in Crimea since the 1700's. Then the USSR happened, with Russia being the big dog state of the USSR, Ukraine being another state. And, the Russian Ruling Elite don't want The West to have that land by way of Ukraine. It's prime real estate, with a substantial Russian history and ethnic-Russian population, and it's a core of Russian history, it's core Russian neighborhood. Russia is taking a stand on multi-polarity of the world, along with China, in counter to The West / USA. Ukraine was a state within the USSR, Russia was the ruling state within the USSR, - land which was in the Russian borders was transferred to the Ukraine state,.. it was a transfer of convenience, and not a transfer to a 'sovereign nation'. Ukraine can't win on its own,… it's NATO/USA support which is necessary for Ukraine to win this war, so, it's a crucially collaborative effort. What Russia wants is to reclaim historical Russian land (Donbas and thereabouts, plus Ukraine) and keep that land. Ukraine going to The West basically means the land goes to The West. That's entirely unacceptable to Russia. So, compromise. Let Russia reclaim the eastern/southern lands of that region, and get back to peace and good productivity, rather than devastation.
@donaldskibo8970
@donaldskibo8970 Рік тому
@dnskibo Ukraine-Canadian: thank you - Prof. Snyder always amazingly insightful and informative.
@orctowngrot8842
@orctowngrot8842 Рік тому
Great Stuff. This talk illustrates perfectly the value in higher education in general. Our societies, and we as humans need to access language and the ability to discuss the world in order to understand where we are and to find the way forward. The tragedy of war is that it is a manifestation of ignorance, and shows a dominance of low-tier impulses (greeds). Learning to talk and to think (for all of us) will do much to elevate society from stupid and retrograde urges.
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 Рік тому
Read some key points here: People die in Ukraine for American/USA political and economic interests. Ukraine was a state in the USSR, - the east of that Ukraine region was and is substantially ethnic Russian, and the Donbas / eastern Ukraine was part of Russia from the late 1700's till about 1922, but was not Ukraine prior to 1922, and was a state within the USSR till 1991. That's Russia's neighborhood. They're not going to let Crimea and the Donbas(and thereabouts) go to The West. Btw, I'm in The West, military central in SoCaL. But, east Ukraine region is historical Russian lands. That's Russia's core neighborhood. Leave it to them,… in peace. The issue here is the Donbas / eastern Ukraine plus Crimea, which is historical Russian land since the 1700's to about 1922, and Russia having a naval base in Crimea since the 1700's. Then the USSR happened, with Russia being the big dog state of the USSR, Ukraine being another state. And, the Russian Ruling Elite don't want The West to have that land by way of Ukraine. It's prime real estate, with a substantial Russian history and ethnic-Russian population, and it's a core of Russian history, it's core Russian neighborhood. Russia is taking a stand on multi-polarity of the world, along with China, in counter to The West / USA. Ukraine was a state within the USSR, Russia was the ruling state within the USSR, - land which was in the Russian borders was transferred to the Ukraine state,.. it was a transfer of convenience, and not a transfer to a 'sovereign nation'. Ukraine can't win on its own,… it's NATO/USA support which is necessary for Ukraine to win this war, so, it's a crucially collaborative effort. What Russia wants is to reclaim historical Russian land (Donbas and thereabouts, plus Ukraine) and keep that land. Ukraine going to The West basically means the land goes to The West. That's entirely unacceptable to Russia. So, compromise. Let Russia reclaim the eastern/southern lands of that region, and get back to peace and good productivity, rather than devastation.
@tarickw
@tarickw Рік тому
has anyone found the 60 minutes interview he is referring to? I would love to watch that segment
@Diggnuts
@Diggnuts Рік тому
Can't find it on youtube..
@cinnamon2151
@cinnamon2151 Рік тому
This one interviewer is ok ,, 7 months ago & so relevant ukposts.info/have/v-deo/b5RjZYGWmql1xac.html “”We speak to Yale University historian Timothy Snyder about his latest article for The New Yorker, "The War in Ukraine Is a Colonial War." Snyder writes about the colonial history that laid the foundations for the Russian war in Ukraine, such as Russia's imperial vision and how leaders……
@pynn1000
@pynn1000 Рік тому
Episode aired 22 Feb, title "Ukraine/Targeting America". Can only post youtube links on youtube - fair enough - so here is a link to the 60 minutes youtube video: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/mnqWeqOmnZ6ryKs.html about the "Targeting America" stuff. If you click "show more" in the description there is an outside link to 60 minutes episodes.
@johnries5593
@johnries5593 Рік тому
It's good to be hard to argue with.
@johnries5593
@johnries5593 Рік тому
"One man with courage is a majority" -- Attributed to Andrew Jackson I think it safe to say that Jackson would have done exactly what Zelensky has done under the same circumstances (except that he would have led the resistance in person, which he was qualified to do).
@sosrope3420
@sosrope3420 Рік тому
Share widely!
@oxanakrestin7886
@oxanakrestin7886 Рік тому
here is another mind bender, most of the people from West Ukraine are trilingual ( we are all fluent Polish speakers)🤣🤣🤣
@RabinAcharya
@RabinAcharya Рік тому
Electoral system in US, is a structural factor. That needs to change in order to advance democracy forward. There are many structural factors in Nepal. Rather than being an independent state, it is a satellite state. Structural factors are in play here.
@johnries5593
@johnries5593 Рік тому
I definitely don't care about Vladimir Putin's feelings; except the extent to which they affect his actions.
@chrism.1131
@chrism.1131 Рік тому
Forever, to an individual just means, until you end.
@johnries5593
@johnries5593 Рік тому
It should be noted that a large number of Americans completely reject the concepts of multiculturalism and multilingualism even in the USA (many fewer than there were a hundred years ago, but the number is still large). I would expect that they would reject it everywhere else in the world as well.
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 Рік тому
Read some key points here: People die in Ukraine for American/USA political and economic interests. Ukraine was a state in the USSR, - the east of that Ukraine region was and is substantially ethnic Russian, and the Donbas / eastern Ukraine was part of Russia from the late 1700's till about 1922, but was not Ukraine prior to 1922, and was a state within the USSR till 1991. That's Russia's neighborhood. They're not going to let Crimea and the Donbas(and thereabouts) go to The West. Btw, I'm in The West, military central in SoCaL. But, east Ukraine region is historical Russian lands. That's Russia's core neighborhood. Leave it to them,… in peace. The issue here is the Donbas / eastern Ukraine plus Crimea, which is historical Russian land since the 1700's to about 1922, and Russia having a naval base in Crimea since the 1700's. Then the USSR happened, with Russia being the big dog state of the USSR, Ukraine being another state. And, the Russian Ruling Elite don't want The West to have that land by way of Ukraine. It's prime real estate, with a substantial Russian history and ethnic-Russian population, and it's a core of Russian history, it's core Russian neighborhood. Russia is taking a stand on multi-polarity of the world, along with China, in counter to The West / USA. Ukraine was a state within the USSR, Russia was the ruling state within the USSR, - land which was in the Russian borders was transferred to the Ukraine state,.. it was a transfer of convenience, and not a transfer to a 'sovereign nation'. Ukraine can't win on its own,… it's NATO/USA support which is necessary for Ukraine to win this war, so, it's a crucially collaborative effort. What Russia wants is to reclaim historical Russian land (Donbas and thereabouts, plus Ukraine) and keep that land. Ukraine going to The West basically means the land goes to The West. That's entirely unacceptable to Russia. So, compromise. Let Russia reclaim the eastern/southern lands of that region, and get back to peace and good productivity, rather than devastation.
@roncollins1046
@roncollins1046 Рік тому
"...the fact that he (Zelenskiy) didn't go, the fact that Ukrainians chose to fight, reminds us of something essential about both social existence and democracy, which is that it depends upon working against the larger conditions, it depends upon injecting ethical commitments, and taking corporeal risks." This articulates perfectly why I have stood up against the direct taxation of personal incomes, and the lifetimes of invasive surveillance it enables, and the entire national structure of businesses as tax shelters and personal finance as money-laundering, which it requires and encourages, ALL MY LIFE. This has been a non-negotiable position on my part for decades, I have refused openly and absolutely to be spied on and extorted by a regime with zero exceptions granted, at permanent risk to myself, and to everything I ever achieved or held as precious in my own life, and I have lost much because I would not, could not and will not relent from this ethical commitment, regardless of what corporeal risks I have had to take. As Prof. Snyder says of freedom of speech, that not to defend it at risk to oneself is to be a coward, a mere consumer of freedom and not its defender, is exactly the way I view an American nation content to define itself as a nation of 'taxpayers', reducing themselves to cowardly consumers of liberties, but continually unwilling to defend them. Every single time you file a 1040 or sign a W2 or 1099, you are actively surrendering your freedom, and worse, you know you are. It has to stop, and you have to stop it by declining to participate in it, at risk to yourselves and irrespective of what that risk to anyone's laundered personal fiefdom consists of, and you all know you do. Why haven't you yet?
@themovingdance2744
@themovingdance2744 Рік тому
Margaret Atwood had it down to a T. The forced reproduction ‘factory’ of the Handmaid’s Tale. I studied Humanities and loved political history …still do. He is so much more astute than politicians
@mediaaccess2
@mediaaccess2 Рік тому
A vast majority of Hungarians also believe Ukraine isn't a real country - it's sad.
@robreich6881
@robreich6881 Рік тому
Any country that depends for its existence on the outside world is derivative. You’re not really sovereign if you rely on someone else for you very existence.
@mediaaccess2
@mediaaccess2 Рік тому
@@robreich6881 When a girl tells you that she's an independent lady, it's time to dump her because she's surely going to be a dumpin' you. No one is independent. Basic economics. You make something and I buy it or get it somehow if I need it. You spend the money I gave you on something someone else made. The world goes around like this. However, you can raise your sovereignty level. With Ukraine being shelled now to years gone by, it's more difficult.
@freikorpsdamonisch8127
@freikorpsdamonisch8127 Рік тому
Then let them try take our Transcarpathia, they in a minute understand that we are real a lot.😂 No offense, just a joke. Maybe.)
@mediaaccess2
@mediaaccess2 Рік тому
@@freikorpsdamonisch8127 I'm fighting every single day against this Hungarian cynicism. In just a week I've downloaded a dozen types of memes with the bigger Hungarian land. (That larger version of Hungarian land is a myth, by the way - never happened, or was a very small fraction of Hungary's history.) When propaganda reigns and freedoms to debate are squashed. Hungary is still part of the Soviet Union, but we (not I) are a cowardly nation. All bluster and no guts. One Mi Hazánk politician wrote to me and said, "I'm tired of Ukrainian Nazis harassing Hungarians." A total fabrication of truth. No Ukrainian Nazis are doing that, he doesn't give a sht about Hungarians, and the Ukrainians with Hungarian roots aren't crying for their savior Orbán Viktor to rescue them.
@Hlibertario
@Hlibertario Рік тому
you were right about Kherson
@W_Bin
@W_Bin Рік тому
1:05:20 you missed Ukraine proposal for global security.
@rosemarieholt2261
@rosemarieholt2261 Рік тому
I can’t see this with my phone off 😅
@julianholman7379
@julianholman7379 Рік тому
i thnk anyone interested in the present disaster should watch the BBC series about the former USSR 1985-99, called 'Traumazone: What it Felt lke to Live Through the Collapse of Communism and Democracy'
@VaucluseVanguard
@VaucluseVanguard Рік тому
I admire Tim Snyder. I can't speak too lowly of Donald Trump. However, I think he is wrong to suggest that Trump has played any part in the idea that the USA can't 'win'. I think that is both a broader and deeper malaise in the US political, diplomatic, military and cultural discourses. Suggesting Trump is a major factor give him too much credit.
@hawkbartril3016
@hawkbartril3016 14 днів тому
If you want to listen to someone truely physchotic then you've come to the right place. He isn't good with the truth. Why do you think they have to talk him up so much at the start.
@DidaMinecraft
@DidaMinecraft Рік тому
I'm a democratic socialist who never stopped believing in winning. Great work though =)
@kristinamelnichenko5775
@kristinamelnichenko5775 Рік тому
1:11:17 👏👏👏👏
@p.h.3987
@p.h.3987 Рік тому
Mic is so bad. Questions just muzzled.
@W_Bin
@W_Bin Рік тому
47:00 DISAGREE. WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL AND EVERY PERSON HAVE PHDS IN POLITICAL SCIENCE. ALL WE HAVE TO SO IS BE COMFORTABLE, AND INFORMED ABOUT WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE - THEN WE CAN RELAX IN DEMOCRACY.
@johnnydawson7675
@johnnydawson7675 11 місяців тому
The world owes professor Snyder a debt.
@IzitAllGoUnder
@IzitAllGoUnder Рік тому
Why are the vast majority of these main comments with many "likes" simply praising the lecturer and barely, if at all, mentioning anything about the content ? Seems to be a common phenomenon these days. 🤔🙄😕
@jmolofsson
@jmolofsson Рік тому
God knows! Maybe they are impressed, and feel a need to express their appreciation?
@oxanakrestin7886
@oxanakrestin7886 Рік тому
he gives excellent analysis of this war .
@friendlyfire7861
@friendlyfire7861 8 місяців тому
1:07 Your student responds to you by saying some people are “insane.” This is mirroring your approach and attitude, and you reward her by saying her point is “brilliant.” This is indoctrination, sir, yes it is. If you can’t accept that, you must accept that it is poor teaching practice.
@foucault8964
@foucault8964 8 місяців тому
He’s an excellent historian but just planning to go to mars could create indirectly the tech that will fix global warming.
@larysapanasyuk1843
@larysapanasyuk1843 Рік тому
Yesss, russia doesn't exist 👏👏 Amazing take, amazing lecture, thank you!
@friendlyfire7861
@friendlyfire7861 8 місяців тому
1:16 Oh my God! You couldn't resist bringing Trump into the conversation. That's really the chef's kiss, isn't it, and another signal to your listeners. Gosh, am I glad my professors weren't like you. Such a stifling atmosphere, finally. I started this lecture because you were supposed to be an expert and because I had seen you in another interview and wanted to know more. If you can't tell, I gradually turned against you as you ticked off, one by one, a large number of the problems of professors and universities today. It's so sad that it's come to this in US universities. Just terrible. I think I saw the last tatters of real intellectualism when I was a student. It's gone now. 😢
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 Рік тому
By your definition, nearly everyone is fascist @41:36 +
@friendlyfire7861
@friendlyfire7861 8 місяців тому
1:09 Your comments about freedom reflect Roosevelt's four freedoms--that is, they are not negative freedoms. This is not the American or Enlightenment concept of freedom. It is a neo-marxist concept of freedom.
@Baltasarmk
@Baltasarmk Рік тому
I do not blame that everyone were thinking that Zelensky would flee. We're in Ukraine we're thinking the same
@truthbud
@truthbud Рік тому
Тимофій Снайдеренко
@themovingdance2744
@themovingdance2744 Рік тому
Bolsanaro 😢
@themovingdance2744
@themovingdance2744 Рік тому
Margaret Thatcher said ‘There is no society’
@themovingdance2744
@themovingdance2744 Рік тому
I m trilingual ….it is best thing I ever did…..living in another 3 countries in difficult circumstances
@rosemarieholt2261
@rosemarieholt2261 Рік тому
He needs no introduction FF 5 minutes
@friendlyfire7861
@friendlyfire7861 8 місяців тому
56:00 Yup, there's the bloody-mindedness. The future of everything depends on this war. We have to win. Etc. It's always something like that. You haven't really defined what winning means. Your remarks on free speech were incomplete, I assume, or undeveloped. Your notion of democracy vis a vis Ukraine is rather silly. You are a scholar of Ukraine and you think it is a bastion of democracy? Really?
@777impresso
@777impresso Рік тому
Free people of the world, please, please, please help Ukraine to retake back and clean up acient name Rus` - Ruthenia (lat.) - Russia (greek). Moscow canibals have no right to use that glorious ukrainian name
@cv990a4
@cv990a4 Рік тому
Call them the Muscovy Empire rather than Russia.
@777impresso
@777impresso Рік тому
@@cv990a4 or land occupied by Moscow
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 Рік тому
Read some key points here: People die in Ukraine for American/USA political and economic interests. Ukraine was a state in the USSR, - the east of that Ukraine region was and is substantially ethnic Russian, and the Donbas / eastern Ukraine was part of Russia from the late 1700's till about 1922, but was not Ukraine prior to 1922, and was a state within the USSR till 1991. That's Russia's neighborhood. They're not going to let Crimea and the Donbas(and thereabouts) go to The West. Btw, I'm in The West, military central in SoCaL. But, east Ukraine region is historical Russian lands. That's Russia's core neighborhood. Leave it to them,… in peace. The issue here is the Donbas / eastern Ukraine plus Crimea, which is historical Russian land since the 1700's to about 1922, and Russia having a naval base in Crimea since the 1700's. Then the USSR happened, with Russia being the big dog state of the USSR, Ukraine being another state. And, the Russian Ruling Elite don't want The West to have that land by way of Ukraine. It's prime real estate, with a substantial Russian history and ethnic-Russian population, and it's a core of Russian history, it's core Russian neighborhood. Russia is taking a stand on multi-polarity of the world, along with China, in counter to The West / USA. Ukraine was a state within the USSR, Russia was the ruling state within the USSR, - land which was in the Russian borders was transferred to the Ukraine state,.. it was a transfer of convenience, and not a transfer to a 'sovereign nation'. Ukraine can't win on its own,… it's NATO/USA support which is necessary for Ukraine to win this war, so, it's a crucially collaborative effort. What Russia wants is to reclaim historical Russian land (Donbas and thereabouts, plus Ukraine) and keep that land. Ukraine going to The West basically means the land goes to The West. That's entirely unacceptable to Russia. So, compromise. Let Russia reclaim the eastern/southern lands of that region, and get back to peace and good productivity, rather than devastation.
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 Рік тому
The Ukraine refers to The Borderlands,…. wild fields.
@cv990a4
@cv990a4 Рік тому
@@bonsummers2657 In the Dec 1 1991 referendum on Ukrainian independence (from USSR), every Ukrainian oblast voted strongly for independence (84% or greater) with one exception - Crimea/Sevastopol, which voted 54/57% for independence. Donetsk voted 84%. Luhansk voted 84% - with turnouts of 77% and 80% respectively. These are very strong results for Ukrainian independence. It shows that what you say about these lands being Russian is completely false. Ukrainians are not dying for US interests. The US has very little economic interest in Ukraine - Ukraine does its business with Europe and the Middle East (food) and US companies own almost nothing within Ukraine. Ukrainians are dying for Ukrainian independence. Polls within Ukraine confirm that. Russia is tied up with its own revanchist dreams and in particular, the weird ambitions of Vladimir Putin. The Grand Duchy of Moscow was a small entity centered on Moscow in 1550 when it threw off the Tatar yoke. From then until the Russian Empire collapsed in 1917, it was in an almost uninterrupted imperialist expansion, which took it as far east as the Pacific Ocean and Alaska, as far west as the borders of Germany (absorbing most of Poland and all of Ukraine) and as far south as the borders of Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan and China. It colonized Turkic people like the Kazakhs and Uzbeks, Iranian peoples like the Azeris and Tajiks, many Buddhist and animist peoples of Asia origin, Slavs like Ukrainians, Belarusians and Poles, Balts like the Latvians and Lithuanians and Finnic peoples such as Estonians and Finns. The Soviet Union was merely the reconstitution of the Russian Empire in a different form. Note that only in 1940 was the USSR able to finally gather all Ukrainians in its empire. Even today's Russian Federation remains an empire, with subject people such as Chechens, Kalmyks, Yakuts, Tatars, etc - at least 20% of all people of the Russian Federation are non-Slavs who suffer under Russian domination. Russia is the last European empire, and that empire needs to die.
@WOJTEK93119
@WOJTEK93119 Рік тому
I like when Professor is saying about “Tradition of peaceful exchange of power” 35:20 when he exactly knows about fact that in 2014 president elect Viktor Yanukovych have to run away with his life from Kiev.
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen Рік тому
That is what usually happens, when you tell your police to kill initially peaceful demonstrators.
@jefftheriault5522
@jefftheriault5522 Рік тому
Because he stole the election in the first place, and EVERY UKRAINIAN KNEW IT. That was the final wave that poured down the face of the dam, the unendurable insult added to the rest of the unendurable insults of the last eighty years of Ukrainian history. That washed a hole in the dam, and let all that Stalinist bile start to drain out, at long last.
@stoneybe
@stoneybe Рік тому
Yanukovych ran because he lied to his people about European integration, sent his criminal policeforce to beat up students and kill dozens of protesters
@tarasmanolov
@tarasmanolov Рік тому
No, he didn't have to run. The agreement was reached that very day allowing him to stay until early elections. Why he ran it's his business, his and his Russian masters'.
@oxanakrestin7886
@oxanakrestin7886 Рік тому
he had to leave the country after he gave command to shoot 100 students peacefully protesting against his pro russian policy.
@cliveengel5744
@cliveengel5744 Місяць тому
This guy invents stuff - Russia has multiple resources and not only Hydrocarbons. Please become a historian and not a Political commissioner. You never saw Robert Mogosci standing on a desk and being a Historical activist. We all know that the Ukrainian Government is paying you to rewrite the History of Ukraine in their vision. You stated, “5000 Ukrainian Cossacks helped lift the 2nd siege of Vienna,” which is incorrect; the correct term would be Zaporizhzian Cossack Hetmanate, neither Polish nor Russian. We know you are attempting to link Ukraine with Europe and cast all Cossacks as Ukraine; it is called Nation blending, just like George W Bush did in 2003 about the war in Iraq. GW “Saddam Hussain is giving refuge to elements of Al Qaeda and is developing weapons of mass destruction.” So according to you Iraqi Al Qaeda members helped plan and attack New York City. Yes - Nation Blending. In 1654, the Zaporizhzian Hetmanate entered the Pereyaslav agreement with Tsarist Russia, which controlled the area northwest of the Dnieper River. By the way, Ukraine never existed in 1654. Cossack roots are tribesmen that remained after the Golden Horde and resided on the banks of the Dnipro River for centuries and are not Polish Eastern Slavic, they may have had people of Polish Extraction but ethically not Polish. The Crimean Tatars Khanate has nothing to do with Ukraine, never conquered the territory and never had any influence in the Peninsula. On the 300 Anniversary of the Pereyaslav agreement, Nikita Khrushchev persuades the Supreme Soviet to transfer the Crimea Region to The Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic as a gift. Ukraine took this gift and is trying to use it as a bargaining chip with Nato Membership. So Nikita Khrushchev would have been proud of you!
@larswangdahl3579
@larswangdahl3579 Рік тому
Get lost, anwering to this post is like starting avtv serires, are you really on board with democrathy🧐
@larswangdahl3579
@larswangdahl3579 Рік тому
I have no idea why facebook whould not let me answer this stupid message, but it did. Now I can and I say it is stupid.
@larswangdahl3579
@larswangdahl3579 Рік тому
And by the way Timothy Snyders is awsome, as ever.
@consequences5638
@consequences5638 8 місяців тому
Professor of English who doesn't speak English? Diversity hire?
@JamesBrown-ol8vw
@JamesBrown-ol8vw 7 місяців тому
This guy talks in circles
@TheDavidlloydjones
@TheDavidlloydjones Рік тому
Once again: it is a bad idea to record speeches in front of solid reflecting backplanes: the echo is unbearable. Sound men are professionals because recording is difficult. If you're not a pro, stick with the obvious: carpets, curtains, padding on tables and desks. Nothing says unpleasant-woing-woing-woing-echo like a lot of unpleasant-woing-woing-woing-echo.
@TheDavidlloydjones
@TheDavidlloydjones Рік тому
Tim's speech comes off well, so perhaps his mike is well set. The young lady introducing him is painful to hear because of the echo.
@ennnafnlaus2904
@ennnafnlaus2904 Рік тому
Dr Snyder - if you were watching a lecture and the lecturer made what you know was a gross representation of a subject's viewpoint, how would it make you question, going forward, the lecturer's claims about other people's positions, and secondly going backwards, their statements in all of their previous works you've previously taken at face value? This was unfortunately my experience in this lecture. 14:40 - 15:01 "... is wacky the same way that we're gonna, like, save ourselves from global warming by going to Mars is wacky. It's the kind of thing you can get yourself to believe if nobody tells you the truth. It's the kind of thing you can get yourself to believe if nobody is willing to challenge you. It's the kind of thing you can believe if you're good at some things but not good at everything, which is a general description of oligarchs..." Dispensing with the ambiguity, that's obviously a jab at Elon Musk, who we can both agree is a deeply problematic individual - not just from his helping spread authoritarian propaganda and trying to negotiate giving away pieces of countries to expansionist autocracies, but perhaps more fundamentally for the highly dangerous pushing of information nihilisim - the notion that facts don't exist and all truth is relative, so just like, do your own research, man. But a subject's views being problematic doesn't make dramatic misrepresentations of their positions not be likewise problematic to the lecturer's credibility. Musk has surely described his motivations for Mars colonization literally thousands of times by now, and not one single time has it been "to save ourselves from global warming". His repeated and simple argument is: * The cost to become multiplanetary, while it may seem like a large number, would be a minuscule percentage of our GDP * The risk in any given year of an extinction event - nuclear doomsday devices, bioengineered pathogens, artificial intelligence, extreme natural castastrophic events, etc - is also quite low. BUT: * The consequences of that event is literally the worst possible consequence: the entire extinction of our species, the only sign of intelligent life we see in our observations of the whole cosmos. * And the risk of our extinction rises with each passing year, while becoming multiplanetary is a difficult, fraught process that will take decades at best. * Thus starting now is comparatively a cheap insurance policy against the light of consciousness being snuffed out of the universe. Now, one may disagree with that logic chain, but it is consistent, and it is what he actually believes. Not "we must go to Mars to save ourselves from global warming". Indeed, Musk's approach to the specific issue of "how to save ourselves from global warming", has not been remotely subtle: Tesla, which undoubtedly brought forward the end of the oil age by many years on its own by showing that EVs were practical, desirable, and forcing other automakers to react (to say nothing of advancing grid storage as well). It's honestly hard to think of any other single company that has done more on their own against global warming, so it is quite a bizarre misrepresentation to pretend that Musk's ideas for how to fix global warming is not Tesla, but "Move to Mars." The guy is an open book; it's not hard to find his actual viewpoints. I say this not to defend the man - I'm deeply disappointed in the deeply harmful ideas he's been promoting lately. I say this as a fan of yours who found themselves having trouble taking what you said at face value after that rather blatant straw man. So please try to do better in the future. :)
@joepanzica
@joepanzica Рік тому
Unfortunately, there are too many who take refuge in escapist reveries such as “our only chance is to colonize a new planet.” I never thought once of Elon Musk during Snyder’s talk, but anybody else is invited to take Musk’s ideas seriously. I just wonder whether ANY conception of “OUR?” interplanetary “future” has to do with the vast majority of humanity (for generations to come) who must somehow contend with terrestrial structures and possibilities.
@ennnafnlaus2904
@ennnafnlaus2904 Рік тому
@@captain_relaxo Exactly who else do you think he was talking about when he talked about oligarchs obsessed with settling Mars?
@ennnafnlaus2904
@ennnafnlaus2904 Рік тому
@@joepanzica Who do you know who believes that we should give up on our planet and settle another one as a replacement? I can't think of a single person. The main motivation among such people for settling other planets isn't to *give up and replace* ours, but as an insurance policy against a catastrophic *extinction event* (aka, not global warming) on Earth. I can't think of a single person who wants to *give up on Earth*.
@joepanzica
@joepanzica Рік тому
@@ennnafnlaus2904 I think we might agree that for the foreseeable future (never mind the “imaginary” one), we cannot afford to give up on earth no matter how daunting the challenges we face here. That doesn’t mean we won’τ indulge in (or succumb) to ocasional feelings of despair. (That is only human.) We probably also agree that imagination has an essential place in the human project.. Among imagination’s many useful functions is allowing us to envision not just possibles *futures* but to form occasionally helpfully simplified (i.e. “abstract) view of certain problems that have always bedeviled humanity. Imagination, like any other human faculty, can be misused; and Dr. Snyder is entitled to warn against certain ways it can be misused. But Dr. Winston O’ Boogie Legthigh, aka Dwarf MacDougle, aka the Walrus, Aka the Dreamweaver, aka John Oko Lennon was gleeful to cash in on his pagan to fanciful fantasy - or did he flash into his peon to farcical glass onion-ing? I won’t name names, but I know (and have known in my life) many who have been burdened by many forms of chronic sadness, anxiety, and desperation whose verbal and behavioral expressions could suggest a great deal of nihilistic ideation. Escape to another planet seemed to be just one form of how they express this, although it is also a way that they comfort themselves. I don’t mean to denigrate this form of comforting imagination/escapism. And, as I tried to state above, imagination (even at its most “escapist”) is never entirely futile or entirely escapist. It “can” be salutary. Dr. Snyder was giving his talk to inspire some hope for democracy and decency in terrestrial human terms. Some might say his impulse is purely escapist and “imaginary.” And when they do that, we are entitled to wonder whether they are “really’ trying to be helpful. Maybe that is what “really” inspired your reaction to his remarks? Anyway, here’s hoppen and maginating that yer blues are never too scrutiating …. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/p2ZqqKSJeGaHq30.html
@ennnafnlaus2904
@ennnafnlaus2904 Рік тому
@@captain_relaxo Neither Branson nor Bezos want to settle Mars. There is one specific oligarch, and it's more than obvious who he was talking about. And his representation was a straw man, which IMHO should be beneath him. "Musk doesn't overtly say it is an escape plan because of global warming, doesn't mean that isn't his overall understanding of the situation" ukposts.info/have/v-deo/fJaYZaRug55nk4U.html
@Astronist
@Astronist Рік тому
14:35: "the idea that Ukraine is not a real place, that Ukrainians are not a real people, that Ukraine doesn't have a history is wacky the same way that we're going to, like, save ourselves from global warming by going to Mars is wacky" - a bad comparison. The technologies we need to survive sustainably on Mars are very similar to those we need to survive as a high-tech civilisation sustainably on Earth, by virtue of making low demands on the environment in both cases. Survival on Mars requires energy production without fossil fuels, and all industrial and food production needs to achieve high levels of recycling, and the same on Earth. Furthermore, the enterprise of settling Mars over the next millennium or so is precisely the sort of future-oriented narrative which, later in his talk, Snyder seems to be advocating in order to define a democractic nation, not to mention also one embedded in Russian culture in the form of Russian Cosmism and the early Russian-led achievements in space exploration. So, for all his expertise on Eurasian politics and culture, this is one issue I don't think Prof. Snyder has thought through.
@Tirnon
@Tirnon Рік тому
Prof Snyder has two "vices" he is a humanist and a Marxist. This determines his views, but more of a humanist here. Unfortunately, humanists are leading the "fight against climate warming", it can't end well.
@pjc8682
@pjc8682 Рік тому
I think you are wrong about his argument. Your "future on Mars`" is akin to geopolitics in a context of defining the democratic nation as related to future. The future on Mars is as useful for the democratic nation's future as geopolitics. That is, not really relevant. Second, survival on Mars is a futile argument. If we could survive on Mars, than we should be able to do it on Earth, in first place. As far as the agenda is close to our reality and relevant for our immediate decisions and politics, and ethical choices it is the agenda defining the democratic nation. In contrast, the far fetched aims (like geopolitics, Mars) do not belong to this category. This is how I understand his argument.
@jefftheriault5522
@jefftheriault5522 Рік тому
I expect the professor has read or heard enough about the challenges of establishing a viable colony on Mars. He can also reference how long it took to create self sustaining colonies on the North American continent and Australia. Add the severe differences in the make-up of Martian soil, atmospheric pressure, magnetic field and solar wattage at the surface and you do not have conditions that allow a colony to thrive within the first century of it's establishment. I haven't even mentioned travel time and how large the SpaceX fleet is likely to get. For now, the professor is correct.
@Astronist
@Astronist Рік тому
@@jefftheriault5522 - In that case, I hope Prof. Snyder has some equally inspiring vision of the future for the inhabitants of a growing civilisation coming up against the limits to growth on one planet?
@jefftheriault5522
@jefftheriault5522 Рік тому
@@Astronist That's not his bailiwick. For my part, it feels like Musk hasn't asked the difficult questions of the people he should be consulting with, because he senses he will get answers he doesn't want to hear. Like the R101... more range was required to get her to Cairo Egypt, so a plug was added midships. Schedule and prestige trumped engineering, and so she left the mooring mast overweight, at night and into a rainstorm over the English channel, and the Norman countryside. Right now, trying to set up a colony on Mars looks like an adventure. And you know the saying about adventures.
@zip8444
@zip8444 Рік тому
This lecture is a slipshod narrative of false generalizations devoid of any substance! No mention of NATO, EU, or "War is a Racket" by Smedley Butler!
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 Рік тому
Read some key points here: People die in Ukraine for American/USA political and economic interests. Ukraine was a state in the USSR, - the east of that Ukraine region was and is substantially ethnic Russian, and the Donbas / eastern Ukraine was part of Russia from the late 1700's till about 1922, but was not Ukraine prior to 1922, and was a state within the USSR till 1991. That's Russia's neighborhood. They're not going to let Crimea and the Donbas(and thereabouts) go to The West. Btw, I'm in The West, military central in SoCaL. But, east Ukraine region is historical Russian lands. That's Russia's core neighborhood. Leave it to them,… in peace. The issue here is the Donbas / eastern Ukraine plus Crimea, which is historical Russian land since the 1700's to about 1922, and Russia having a naval base in Crimea since the 1700's. Then the USSR happened, with Russia being the big dog state of the USSR, Ukraine being another state. And, the Russian Ruling Elite don't want The West to have that land by way of Ukraine. It's prime real estate, with a substantial Russian history and ethnic-Russian population, and it's a core of Russian history, it's core Russian neighborhood. Russia is taking a stand on multi-polarity of the world, along with China, in counter to The West / USA. Ukraine was a state within the USSR, Russia was the ruling state within the USSR, - land which was in the Russian borders was transferred to the Ukraine state,.. it was a transfer of convenience, and not a transfer to a 'sovereign nation'. Ukraine can't win on its own,… it's NATO/USA support which is necessary for Ukraine to win this war, so, it's a crucially collaborative effort. What Russia wants is to reclaim historical Russian land (Donbas and thereabouts, plus Ukraine) and keep that land. Ukraine going to The West basically means the land goes to The West. That's entirely unacceptable to Russia. So, compromise. Let Russia reclaim the eastern/southern lands of that region, and get back to peace and good productivity, rather than devastation.
@wiziek
@wiziek Рік тому
@@bonsummers2657 lol that's poor russia troll, and what about ukraine being under poland? what about moscow being taken over by poland and having polish heir in moscow throne?
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 Рік тому
@@wiziek it's a mess
@friendlyfire7861
@friendlyfire7861 8 місяців тому
1:12 Once again: WE MUST WIN! At all costs, I guess. The cost of Ukraine itself. This is the bloody-mindedness again. And how crass of you to talk about how cheap it is for us to pay for it all.
@friendlyfire7861
@friendlyfire7861 8 місяців тому
It's symbolic that your narrow definition of fascism, that it starts with naming your enemy, is the way you start your lecture, with identifying Putin as the enemy, and an irrational one at that. You appear to me to be either hopelessly dialectically confused or diabolical in your abuse of language and argumentative structure to influence your students.
@frederikbjerre427
@frederikbjerre427 Рік тому
I have to disagree when professor Snyder claims that Russia and China are capitalist countries. Capitalism is the right to private ownership contrary to socialism. The people of Russia and China haven't such rights when the state can simply take your property away from you no matter if the law might agree or not.
@player276
@player276 Рік тому
That's a vary ideological claim. No "Complete" capitalist society exists on the planet. There are rules and regulations absolutely everywhere that are "anti-capitalistic". Both Russia and China are "capitalistic" in the general sense of the word as we see it in the real world. If you are American and move to China, what you can do is generally the same. You can go to any store, buy what you want with the money you earned via some job, and have multiple options of the "same" product. This is VERY different from what the economy was like a couple of decades ago where none of the above was possible.
@frederikbjerre427
@frederikbjerre427 Рік тому
@@player276 no they are not. You just don't know what capitalism is. But that doesn't make China nor Russia capitalist countries. The right to private ownership as well as other civil rights matters for how to classify the system. Your argument is the well-known Marxist argument, used not to take responsibility for there endless list of failures.
@hlysnan6418
@hlysnan6418 Рік тому
Professor Snyder speaks with great authority on Ukrainian and Russian affairs, but his comparisons to problems in America and to the situation of American politics are ham-fisted and trite.
@kyivstuff
@kyivstuff Рік тому
How long did you have to search your Russian-English dictionary to dig up “ham-fisted” and “trite”?
@hlysnan6418
@hlysnan6418 Рік тому
@@kyivstuff ...well, that's one way of admitting that you don't know many English words...
@NatalkaPetrenko
@NatalkaPetrenko Рік тому
What are you talking about? These are fairly common words, especially in written English. I agree with many of Snyder's comments, by the way
@TheXgfb
@TheXgfb Рік тому
Not even close dude.
@hlysnan6418
@hlysnan6418 Рік тому
@@TheXgfb Well, quite.
@mariap.2822
@mariap.2822 Рік тому
52:02 - such a great insight about freedom of speach!
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