A simple trick to design your own solutions for Rubik's cubes

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Mathologer

Mathologer

8 років тому

The vast majority of people who tackle the Rubik's cube never succeed in solving it without looking up somebody else's solution. In this video the Mathologer reveals a simple insight that will enable all those of you who can solve the first layer to design your own full solution for the Rubik's cube, as well as for many other highly symmetric twisty puzzles.
For more details about this really very fundamental idea behind many twisty puzzle solutions have a look at this article by the Mathologer from a couple of years ago www.qedcat.com/rubiks_cube/
Googling "commutator, Rubik's cube" will also produce links to a lot of very good articles on this topic.
For a few footnotes you may also want to check out this video on Mathologer 2: • Footnotes to the video...
The Rubik's cube animations in this video were produced using the program CubeTwister by Werner Randelshofer: www.randelshofer.ch/cubetwister/
Thank you also to Danil Dmitriev the official Mathologer translator for Russian for his subtitles.
Enjoy :)

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@primusavenged
@primusavenged 7 років тому
CUBERS HATE HIM mathematician solves ALL twisty puzzles with one weird trick!
@harribrickboy2175
@harribrickboy2175 7 років тому
Mason J Rice
@alexwong9058
@alexwong9058 7 років тому
Mason J Rice is that the word autofill
@poophedcalvert1961
@poophedcalvert1961 7 років тому
he going to ducking fasr
@thijsbeentjes4008
@thijsbeentjes4008 6 років тому
Maria Hartmann which method do you use?
@Jay-S04
@Jay-S04 6 років тому
primusavenged HIS SHIRT IS FUCKING STUPID
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
17 Nov 2016 This is the first video on Mathologer with 1M views. Party time tonight :)
@GrzesiuG44
@GrzesiuG44 7 років тому
Congratulations! I was wondering if there is any simple way to apply this trick for 4x4x4 cubes and their edge parity. Do you have any hints?
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
Let's say you've solved all the corners, and let's also say you've solved all the edges except for some in the top layer and you discover an edge parity there. Then just give the second layer from the top a quarter twist and then resume solving. It's important at this stage to use nothing but the algorithms you designed using the trick from this point onward. Hope this helps :)
@adolfotapiagallardo
@adolfotapiagallardo 7 років тому
felicitaciones por el millón de vistas! soy de Perú en Sudamérica y te planteo esta pregunta: ¿como fueron inventados los algoritmos de Jessica Fridrich? ¿cual es la secuencia o cadena de ideas que llevan a estos famosos algoritmos? saludos! y que sigan los éxitos!
@sivad1025
@sivad1025 7 років тому
Mathologer Congrats!!!! I'm always a fan of your videos!!!
@523101997
@523101997 7 років тому
this guys my math lecturer !
@farrankhawaja9856
@farrankhawaja9856 3 роки тому
I'm an experienced speed cuber (but not an expert) and I learned commutators but never really understood why they worked. Now I have the intuition behind them. Thank you Mathologer!
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 3 роки тому
That's great :)
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
I thought it would probably a good idea to stress again that the main purpose of this video is to enable people to find their own solutions to twisty puzzles based on a very simple (in hindsight) but at the same time extremely powerful trick. If you are not interested in finding your own solutions and just want to be able to mechanically unscramble these puzzles, then you are better off memorizing one of the readymade methods that were designed by expert cubers. To understand how the trick works is quite easy, I think, and very much worth knowing about, regardless of whether or not you ever want to touch a Rubik's cube. However, to be able to implement the trick to really find your own solutions you have to be able to fix the first layer of a 3x3x3 Rubik's cube or the corresponding moving element in other twisty puzzles without anybody else's help/looking up recipes. In any case, have fun :)
@vectorsorbet9581
@vectorsorbet9581 8 років тому
+Mathologer Would this trick work for square-1?
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Victor Armenteros In general this trick works very well for highly symmetric twisty puzzles but is not that much help when it comes to puzzles with few symmetries. Having said that, you can definitely get quite far with commutators in the case of square-1, it's just a little bit harder to find "your moves"; :)
@vectorsorbet9581
@vectorsorbet9581 8 років тому
+Mathologer Thank you. I really enjoy your channel
@TonyFisherPuzzles
@TonyFisherPuzzles 8 років тому
+Mathologer Brings back memories of June 1980 when I worked out my own solution including this "trick". Such a shame most kids don't even try to solve puzzles themselves nowadays. That feeling of cracking it on my own for the first time is what got me completely hooked. Obviously by teaching people this (I have done that too) they aren't really solving it by themselves either.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Tony Fisher Glad to see you here. Have been watching your videos for AGES :) In fact I just directed a couple of people to your 13x13x13 disassemble video (people who suggested that it is a good idea to simply take apart and reassemble a twisty puzzle). Personally I think teaching this trick to someone who really gets stuck is the way to go. Even if you know the trick, it's still a nontrivial exercise to actually implement it and extend it to other twisty puzzles. And if they end up making up solutions for something like the Rex cube just having watched this video, then I'd be quite happy to give them my seal of approval "You really did this by yourself!"
@redkb
@redkb 8 років тому
Another great video! You explained this very well.
@Mullemeckmannen97
@Mullemeckmannen97 8 років тому
+RedKB lol hey man, ur awesome
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+RedKB Glad you like it. You put all this very well too in your cube theory videos, but of course our target audiences are quite different :)
@ianmoore5502
@ianmoore5502 8 років тому
+RedKB Oh hi kenneth
@alvinknumpihc3680
@alvinknumpihc3680 8 років тому
+Mathologer at 11:43 wouldn't it be A B B^-1 A^-1, not A B A^-1 B^-1
@alvinknumpihc3680
@alvinknumpihc3680 8 років тому
+Dexter C Joyner nevermind, i watched the rest of the video :/
@sharonjuniorchess
@sharonjuniorchess 3 роки тому
Many years ago when it first came out I went for a job interview and the person interviewing me pulled out a Rubik's cube scrambled it and then said "I'll give you 10 minutes see if you can solve it" and then left the room. 10 minutes later he came back and asked how I had done. I said that I had not succeeded but I knew it was possible because I had seen my brother do it but that when I got one part solved it would mess up somewhere else. I asked him what the purpose of the exercise was and he said he just wanted to see how I approached a seemingly intractable problem whether I just gave up or persevered. Being willing to keep trying to solve the problem even if it did not work was what he was looking for.
@DaNewWrksOfMeh
@DaNewWrksOfMeh 2 роки тому
That's a good mindset. Sometimes it feels irrelevant to keep going, especially if you've fallen behind. However; if you keep going, you can have as many chances as you want.
@h3nnn4n
@h3nnn4n 8 років тому
Woow, nice video. I am glad that you talked about commutators. Peole who can solve the rubiks cube blindfolfed usually have to use commutators while blindfolded.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Renan Silva Glad you like the video. I've never blindsolved a Rubik's cube but I've had a look at how people do it. Actually seems quite doable. In fact, I would think that anybody with reasonable skills should be able to learn how to do this trick in a day or two. Have you tried ? :)
@h3nnn4n
@h3nnn4n 8 років тому
+Mathologer Yes, I tried and I could solve both the 3x3 and 2x2. It is not that hard, it is very rewarding and it is very interesting since it relates to the Futurama Theorem. Definitively worth a try.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Renan Silva Cool, once I run out of all those other fun things to do ... :)
@h3nnn4n
@h3nnn4n 8 років тому
+Mathologer A mathematician never runs out of fun things to do =D
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Renan Silva ... which is both a blessing and a curse ...
@myfuzzyslippers08
@myfuzzyslippers08 8 років тому
Thank you!!! I was 14 when the Rubik's Cube first came out and could easily do one layer but struggled after that. I ended up buying a book and memorized a few sets of moves that would let me solve the rest, but I never felt good about that because I hadn't figured it out on my own. I know the insight you provide doesn't come close to the fastest solution, but it's ONE thing you need to know after you can do the top layer yourself. I will now be able to solve it on my own after 35 years! I'm going to play with this for a while just for fun, then I'll have a look at the intuitive faster methods mentioned in some of the comments.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+myfuzzyslippers08 Great, if you need some more practical tips on how to implement these tricks maybe have a look at footnotes video on Mathologer 2 or the writeup I link to in the description :)
@aurelia65536
@aurelia65536 6 років тому
“Does it fix it?” “No-“ *”IT FIXES IT, KARL!”*
@jayreynolds8647
@jayreynolds8647 8 років тому
As with many who have replied here, I am already a cuber myself, with a decent beginning of a collection. In truth, this video did not teach me anything new, but it completely reinforced the way I solve cubes. I am not, nor will I most ever likely be, a "speed" cuber. That said, In most ALL the cubes I have, the simplicity described here of performing a sequence to isolate a single piece, move that piece out of the way (or another piece into that spot) then reversing the sequence, is exactly the principal I have applied to not only the 3x3, but each larger cube in turn. Of course there are some "special" cubes that require learning a new algorithm (like the crazy 3x3 planet series I am currently enjoying!) but the basic principal remains the same for them all. Extremely well done. Thank you for posting this.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
Glad you got something out of this video :)
@DGCubes
@DGCubes 8 років тому
This video is so cool! I wish I had taught myself to solve the cube like this from the start. :)
@GERcub3r
@GERcub3r 8 років тому
hi DG :D
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+DGCubes Just checked out your channel. Nice! Glad you got something out of this video :)
@DGCubes
@DGCubes 8 років тому
Aw, thanks! It was an awesome video! :)
@danielinoyatov5009
@danielinoyatov5009 8 років тому
hey dg cubes I subscribed
@hanniffydinn6019
@hanniffydinn6019 8 років тому
+DGCubes You should know these moves already if you speed solve? These moves in this video are the moves used to solve the last layer ! I can currently solve in about 1 min ish using Friedrich 2 Look, but getting any faster than that means learning every case. Which frankly, is no fun. well not yet anyway.
@IdoN0TneedTherapy
@IdoN0TneedTherapy 8 років тому
This is one of the most impressive videos I've ever seen. In
@ffggddss
@ffggddss 7 років тому
Another fun (& instructive!) vid! Thanks, Mathologer! An additional note about the commutator. The reason that ABA⁻¹B⁻¹ ( sometimes abbreviated as [A,B] ) tells you whether A & B commute, is that the second half of that commutator can be written as A⁻¹B⁻¹ = (BA)⁻¹ and since the inverse of any group element is unique, (BA)⁻¹ = (AB)⁻¹ if and only if AB = BA.
@markonikolic1386
@markonikolic1386 7 років тому
As a speedcuber this looks very interesting to me. I almost wish that i don't know how to solve my cubes so i can try this out, but enyway l will probably order some new weird puzzle and try to come out with my own solution. Thanks for the video. You realy explaned it well!
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
Glad you got something out of this. If you watch the next video (will come out in two weeks' time) you'll find plenty of opportunities to try and make up your own solutions to some really outlandish twisty puzzles :)
@PreservationEnthusiast
@PreservationEnthusiast 7 років тому
Most of the so called "speed cubers" of today are just autistic OCD dropouts who slavishly learn other peoples algorithms.... And practice for months on end. It is not intelligent or clever. The idea of these "puzzles" is just that... they are puzzles. You are supposed to think and use your own brain power and develop your own moves to solve them. Not just look up someone else's work. This typifies all that is wrong with the USA today. Everybody wants instant gratification and solutions. Even on video games, people are not prepared to work. They just want the "cheat codes" so they can finish as quick as possible and them onto the next game.
@markonikolic1386
@markonikolic1386 7 років тому
heelfan1234 It is true that it is the easy way and that is not clever but it is fun and that is the most important thing. By learning how to solve 1 twisty puzzle you develop a new way of thinking that will help you solve other twisty puzzles. That is why collectors usually know how to solve all of their puzzles, even weird ones that don't have solutions already made, but they still use well know solutions to solve ordinary puzzles like 3*3, 4*4, piraminx, megaminx, etc because is much more fun. And you still have every solve different because the first 2/3 of a 3*3 solve are intuitive.
@PreservationEnthusiast
@PreservationEnthusiast 7 років тому
Marko Nikolic I don't think it is more "fun" to learn by rote 57 OLL algs and 20 odd PLL ones, all other people's work. It may be "fun" to a braindead OCD person, but the real fun is to work out enough algs on your own to solve the puzzle. Even if they have been found before, if you find them yourself, they are personal to you. They may not be the best or the most efficient, but they represent your brain power. The problem with speed cubing is that everyone wants the most efficient method which basically means just cheating, looking up everybody else's solutions.
@markonikolic1386
@markonikolic1386 7 років тому
heelfan1234 Since i never solved a twisty puzzle using my brain power i can't write about that, but i know from some other types of puzzles ones u find a solution it's not fun eny more. Methods like CFOP, Yau, give you the ability to to practise something and get faster and for me that is more fun then solving a puzzle ones or twice and stoping there,or stearing in the computer screen all day. Speedcubers have a life to, they do sports, ther go out with friends that are not speedcubers.
@wroth
@wroth 8 років тому
Wow, for once a click-baity title that actually delivers on its promise! That actually is both simple, and applicable to all rubiks cubes, thankyou!
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+wroth I was actually really agonizing over whether or not I should put the "all" in the title because although the trick gets you all the way with a lot of highly symmetric twisty puzzles you need to know one or two more tricks for others (and for the really screwed up puzzles with few symmetries it is not very useful at all) In the end I decided that getting this really very powerful trick out warrants the title as it is :)
@NorbertHarrer
@NorbertHarrer 8 років тому
Fantastic!!! I was never able to remember the moves from solution guides. So far I was only able to solve the top two layers by myself. This is the missing key to finally go all the way. Thank you so much. :-D
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Norbert Harrer Find out about this trick really was a life-changing experience for me as far as twisty puzzles are concerned. I did find my own solution when I was still going to high-school but I still remember it being really, really hard work and in retrospect what I did there was not pretty at all. Anyway, wish you luck with tackling the Rubik's cube again. If you need some more pointers check out my write-up in the description and the footnotes video on Mathologer 2. And if you succeed please let me know :)
@NorbertHarrer
@NorbertHarrer 8 років тому
+Mathologer Thank you for the nice answer! And btw.: You create a really awesome channel. It became one of my most favorite UKposts channel among many otherwise more engineering themed channels.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
Glad to be able to sneak in amongst the engineers :)
@NorbertHarrer
@NorbertHarrer 8 років тому
+Mathologer Yesss!! I sat down for an hour or two and finally solved the cube by myself for the first time without any outside recipe. :-D It is very rewarding to be able to solve it AND to understand how all the moves work. Now I can put down the Rubik's cube and pick it up in a couple month or years, and I would still be able to solve it (given some time) without any outside help. Any memorized instructions would be long forgotten by then. (Hey, you never know when you need to solve a cube to escape a death trap on a deserted island). However. Sometimes I have the problem that two edges and two corners are swapped at the same time in the final layer. And I am only able to either cycle three corners or three edges with the commutator magic. I googled and found out that a Y-Perm move is needed. Is it also possible to solve this with the commutator trick?
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
If you fix the corners first before doing anything else you don't get this situation you are describing :)
@Haze01Smash
@Haze01Smash 4 роки тому
Thank you for this video! Your explanation of the concept was exactly what I needed! I'd previously doubted my confidence and understanding for doing anything beyond solving the first layer, without looking up someone else's solution. Your explanation highlighted that many of the moves that come naturally in solving the first layer can be applied to unfinished sides of the cube, with the target side oriented to the top, that I need be mindful only of how my moves affect that one layer, and that I can undo the resulting mess on the bottom layer while simultaneously applying the desired change to another part of the top layer. A long winded way of saying that I feel pretty accomplished for designing my own "magic moves" and solving the cube on my own without following someone else's pre-made step-by-step guide.
@avananana
@avananana 7 років тому
As a long time solver, I'm not a speed cuber but I know how to solve the majority of the cubes on the market, this is really interessting, Sometimes during this video, I actually wish I had no clue about how a cube worked. Hmm, I'm going to see what I can do to fix that issue.
@victordelmastro8264
@victordelmastro8264 Місяць тому
I thank you for your enlightening perspective on group theory. I never would have thought to fiddle my own way through w/ 4 magic moves.
@GyanPratapSingh
@GyanPratapSingh 7 років тому
One of my favourite videos so far! No wonder you were able to solve the hyper cube
@spooncastro
@spooncastro 7 років тому
This is the exact method I have been looking for for years! Thank you so much! I love math so much and I subscribed to your channel earlier today only to finally find exactly what I needed to never have to look up algorithms any more. Thank you!
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
Great, now have some fun thinking your way through a pile of twisty puzzles :)
@EddtheRexMan
@EddtheRexMan 8 років тому
Great video, but as a speedcuber, it really bugs me seeing so many unsolved puzzles :P
@GrashalmTuts
@GrashalmTuts 8 років тому
Same here xD
@andrewfitzgerald9118
@andrewfitzgerald9118 8 років тому
Same
@KarstenJohansson
@KarstenJohansson 8 років тому
+Edward Dibley I think his view counts would skyrocket if Karl brought you on the show to speed solve all of them.
@Booskop.
@Booskop. 8 років тому
+Edward Dibley You don't have kids, do ya?
@martinpolanco1142
@martinpolanco1142 8 років тому
I am sorry but I don't understand
@ivovelo
@ivovelo 5 років тому
I just wanted to come by and say hat after having watched this video some 3 days ago, I solved my cube 3 times today! Thanks for giving me the trick that made me keep going!
@JKKnudsen
@JKKnudsen 5 років тому
Great video! There is actually a pretty neat demonstration of quark confinement in this demonstration. Note that you can not make a solitary twist, it must come with another piece twisted, if the remainder of the cube is to be solved. Consider the solved cube the vacuum state, a twist is a quark. For the rotation example we got a meson(two quarks), and the translation a baryon(three quarks). Things to look up is the Rubik's group and SU(3), if anyone wish to learn more.
@kenney9120
@kenney9120 7 років тому
A very good video for beginning cubers. Rather that simply convey solutions this videos teaches you how to actually THINK through the puzzle.
@magmaticly
@magmaticly 8 років тому
Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant! I'm scratching my head now, saying ”That's so obvious, why did I never think of that?"
@RevYars
@RevYars 7 років тому
Great insight. I looked up how to solve the 3x3x3 and 4x4x4, but it was a really wonderful experience to then use those skills to solve the 5x5x5 by myself. Thanks for the video
@sebastianjost
@sebastianjost 4 роки тому
Another nice trick: If you make any move, you can just repeat the exact same move and you will always get to the starting position. That way you can develop your own algorithms too although they ore often quite long and tedious
@louiswouters71
@louiswouters71 3 роки тому
This is true IF you repeat a pattern starting from a solved cube.
@trueriver1950
@trueriver1950 2 роки тому
@@louiswouters71 in which case it must be true for all other cubes.
@louiswouters71
@louiswouters71 2 роки тому
@@trueriver1950 Yes it is, never said that wasn't the case
@filipemtx
@filipemtx 11 місяців тому
Rip square1
@NicosMind
@NicosMind 8 років тому
*This is both the best and worst method for solving a cube ^_^*. Let me explain, if you've got brains and memory then its the best method because it teaches you how to think and learn for yourself how to tackle a Rubik's cube. However its the worst because many people will forget moves, forget the method, make simple mistakes when moving the layers and just give up and will still be no closer to solving a cube. These are the type of people who cant follow the algorithms which most people learn from and theyre convinced that theyre broken. However being of the former kind of person and not the latter I think its excellent :)
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+NicosMind I agree, it's not a trivial task to actually apply the trick and come up with your own solutions. However, I am mostly talking to people who actually managed to do the first layer by themselves and by doing so have demonstrated that they may well have what it takes to go all the way using this basic insight. Anyway, even if someone doesn't ever attempt to find their own solutions I think this insight is possible the single most important thing that people should know about twisty puzzles :)
@aleksinuutila2315
@aleksinuutila2315 8 років тому
Thats why its better to solve F2L minus one intuitively, then orient and permute all the rest edges, and then solve the 2-5 unsolved corners with commutators. Then the start is straight forward, no memorisation needed, and the rest is easy eight move commutators that are relatively easy to invent on the fly.
@aleksinuutila2315
@aleksinuutila2315 8 років тому
+Aleksi Nuutila First layer is easy and second layer could be solved using key hole, that is very intuitive aswell, and since you wont do the last F2L pair you can have that slot as a buffer that can and should be destroyed in order to solve the rest of the F2L.
@NicosMind
@NicosMind 8 років тому
Mathologer Oh yeah I get that this video was aimed at people with some level of competency. I just loved how this was simultaneously the best advice for some people, yet terrible advice for others. It tickled me. But great video. I did love it :)
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
All under control then :)
@grantmacdonald3904
@grantmacdonald3904 8 років тому
I thought a commutator was someone who was both a communist and a dictator
@MrDeyzel
@MrDeyzel 8 років тому
nice
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Leeroy Jenkins Very funny :)
@grantmacdonald3904
@grantmacdonald3904 8 років тому
+Mathologer omg you replied
@ayadalhilo
@ayadalhilo 7 років тому
Leeroy Jenkins thanks to you, I will never forget this word ever! very clever, very funny :)
@trueriver1950
@trueriver1950 2 роки тому
Surely its the bit in a DC electric motor that the brushes contact with
@Xaotique
@Xaotique 8 років тому
This was actually a really cool way of looking at it. I memorized the simple algorithms you showed in the video years ago, but it doesn't actually give you much of an idea what you're doing. I did some of this without thinking about it, but being conscious of doing it will make it a much more useful tool.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Xaotique Not only more useful but also a lot more fun :)
@ozzyfromspace
@ozzyfromspace 6 років тому
I've designed a few algorithms for solving 3x3's after my college roommate introduced me to the puzzle, but I never fully understood why I did what I did, except that if often worked. I'll pull up a book on commutators after this. :) Thank you for adding reason to my madness! I want to spread the word and explain how people can solve cubes. Fastest time: approx. 20 sec. Wonderful video, Mathologer!
@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff
@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff 8 років тому
You've got a great collection of twisty puzzles! Very nice.
@DivnoorCubes
@DivnoorCubes 8 років тому
It's a photo...
@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff
@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff 8 років тому
+Universal Force - Yeah, a photo of his puzzle collection.
@DMNDSbyDaylight
@DMNDSbyDaylight 8 років тому
+Wood 'n' Stuff w/ Steve French lol owned
@kajoel
@kajoel 8 років тому
Moreover, conjugates are a great way to find "shortcuts" in your solution, conjugates have the form A B A^-1 where A often is called setup moves and B is the main algorithm (which might be a commutator). Conjugates can be used to for example cycle three edges around a corner instead of three in the same layer. This "trick" combined with commutators are very useful when developing your own solution to a twisty puzzle and I used it myself to find a solution to the Gear Mixup cube. See this video for more information and examples: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/a4d9lmaNm5p3r5s.html
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Joel Karlsson For me conjugates in Rubik's cube solutions more or less go under "common sense": you do a setup move to bring pieces into exactly the position so that you can apply your magic move and then undo these moves again after you are finished, pretty natural I think. On the other hand conjugates really become magical in some fancier settings. For example, in linear algebra when it comes to figuring out the matrix that describes the rotation around an arbitrary vector: you first figure out the matrix A around a vector in the direction of the z-axis which is trivial, and then you figure out a non-singular transformation matrix B that maps your arbitrary vector to a vector along the z-axis (which is pretty neat in itself). Then the general matrix you are after is a commutator of BAB^(-1) :)
@kajoel
@kajoel 8 років тому
Mathologer Yes, I have to agree that conjugates are equivalent to "common sense" in cube solving, just a fancier word ;)
@groszak1
@groszak1 6 років тому
Assuming lowercase is a slice turn, in 4x4x4 l' U L' U' l is a conjugate, right?
@georgesmith4776
@georgesmith4776 8 років тому
Absolutely incredible! I've learned to solve over a dozen twisty puzzles, but I've never found the underlying technique - thanks for enlightening me :)
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+George Smith Glad you got something out of this video :)
@anonymousperson4466
@anonymousperson4466 Рік тому
I can proudly say I'm a self cube learner. And when I say self taught that means I had no one whisper anything in my head about cube solving until I was able to solve it. Here is how I learned the 3x3x3 and pretty much everything else... So, I had a 3x3x3 rubik at home and I was kinda nerdy with it. I would just flip it continuously until it could possibly solve itself. With this I was able to understand the logic till the second layer and a base filled with colours(actually it's not that hard just while putting corner pieces just notice the corresponding edge piece as well, but it took me months to learn this). After that what I realised was that you could actually break a cube and put all pieces like you have solved a cube and this is exactly what I used to do. I would just fix cube again and again and then I try something like doing some moves, doing one random move in between and reversing it. This gave me intuition that things repeat in cube....i.e. if you do the same series of moves on a cube continuously, the cube will be solved again after all permutations. After that I started learning how to delocalise the least number of pieces I possibly can(it means getting the least number of pieces around). This was just enough for me to find out that we can displace edge pieces 2 times and corner pieces 3 times to get the whole cube in the same position except for those involved pieces. It was more than enough to solve the cube. Then I found all the 50-51 combinations of the top layer and the most optimal solution to them. After that I analysed a bunch of other cube or other shapes of rubiks as well and pretty much solved every single one of them. After coming back to cube with all algorithm and stuff I now know that a 3x3x3 rubik can be theoretically solved in 9-11 moves!!!! but it's too hard for humans to come up. For a rubiks enthusiast, my message is till you give up don't look up on the internet, explore the cube as much as you can.
@smoggert
@smoggert 8 років тому
This is kinda the same way I started solving my 4x4 (after having looked up most of the stuff for my 3x3). But I did get stuck at the very end once I ran into the 4x4 parities. As those involve badly placed centers and I honestly couldn't get my mind around those ^^. Just rescrambling the cube until you randomly don't run into parities works. But that's a bit time intensive :D
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+smoggert Once you run into parity just give one of the middle layers a quarter twist and then keep solving just using commutators. That takes care of parity in 4x4x4s :)
@TankiCubed
@TankiCubed 8 років тому
Wow! This is an awesome video! I learned quite a bit of information from this. My best time is 7.18 seconds, but not with this method. Although this method works, it is far easier to solve it while using the common speedcube method called CFOP. I am trying to figure it out like this way (in the video) but it is challenging at times :) Great video!
@tobycollins9374
@tobycollins9374 8 років тому
This is for people who struggle memorising algorithms
@samiam7290
@samiam7290 8 років тому
+Toby Collins Any fool can memorise somebody else's recipe, but only a select few can come up with their own recipes. Speedcubing is pretty much the same skill level as touchtyping (and at the same time reciting the mantra "look how smart I am" for no particular reason)
@GrashalmTuts
@GrashalmTuts 8 років тому
+Sam I am the challenge about speedcubing isnt memorising algorithmes, its rather looking ahead multiple moves and knowing exactly what to do, and when. By the way, no speedcuber would ever tell you that they think of themselves as superior in intelligence, because they know that it's pretty much only practice and passion that makes the difference.
@Lucy-ng7cw
@Lucy-ng7cw 8 років тому
+Toby Collins it's more for people who enjoy working out how to solve things and thinking outside the box rather then memorising many things to get to the same spot. Like for mods.
@jesusthroughmary
@jesusthroughmary 2 роки тому
This is a video about problem solving, not speedcubing.
@DurfDiggler
@DurfDiggler Рік тому
I finally solved my first cube! After figuring out a few “magic moves” for the “top” layer, the commutator worked. Thank you! I have to brag that I’ve never looked up any moves or used any apps, etc. The side piece flip example in this video was the only move I’ve been taught. I came up with a doozy to swap & flip two sides; I messed that one up a few times! I’ll try to shorten that with my next cube. *write down your moves as you develop them* Thanks again!
@richardcoppin5332
@richardcoppin5332 2 роки тому
This single video completely demystified for me the problem of solving a Rubik's Cube.
@ganaraminukshuk0
@ganaraminukshuk0 5 років тому
One of the simplest algorithms I know is Ri Di R D (or R' D' R D), and I just realised that that's a commutator.
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 4 роки тому
Ganaram Inukshuk it isn’t, commutator have to be a 3 cycle or more, that algorithm you list doesn’t follow that rule
@andrewtan881
@andrewtan881 4 роки тому
Nam Khanh Nguyen Actually it is indeed a commutator, it’s just that it affects more pieces than just cycling between 3 corners or 3 edges, which is why you wouldn’t use it like you would other conventional commutators. By definition, a commutator is simply an algorithm that follows the form A B A’ B’, but depending on the overlap between the pieces affected by the respective A and B moves, a different number of pieces might move around at the end, hence some commutators are more commonly used, namely the ones that only cycle 3 pieces since they are easier to keep track of.
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 4 роки тому
Andrew Tan uh uh, not so fast, as I said commutators have to be 1. 3 gen 2. More than 4 moves 3. Swap in a particular Simply put, if it doesn’t look like a commutator, it’s not
@andrewtan881
@andrewtan881 4 роки тому
Nam Khanh Nguyen Those are the requirements for commutators that are practical in a solve, not the outright definition of a commutator. That said, I wouldn’t think of R’ D’ R D on its own as a commutator in a solve either, since it’s not practical to be used as such.
@trangium
@trangium 3 роки тому
Nam Khanh There are useful 4-move commutators p, such as M' U2 M U2
@vDREEGONv
@vDREEGONv 8 років тому
CFOP is still my bae, and that was basically PLL XD but its a nice trick for non cubers ^_^
@GreenArt4
@GreenArt4 8 років тому
+(SH) VGamer431 / DreeGon Not really though. This method is basically how people figure out bigger and more complicated puzzles. CFOP is one of the many methods that you nor many other speedcubers have figured out on your own, you looked it up.
@vdeave
@vdeave 8 років тому
+GreenArt4 There are no good speedcubers using their own method. It'd be too slow.
@ogpk3
@ogpk3 8 років тому
oh hey there :D
@GreenArt4
@GreenArt4 8 років тому
***** That's not what I'm saying. My point is that this "own method" thing requires more skill than speedcubing.
@vdeave
@vdeave 8 років тому
Learning to solve it from the internet requires little skill. 'Speedcubing' can require lots of skill depending on how fast you are (I would say sub-12 is very skilled, and requires much more dedication). When you say 'speedcubing' that's something that can't be done with these methods. Besides, if you came to this video and then solved it as a result, it's basically the same as looking for the whole method (obviously it's more difficult and skillfull).
@StefanReich
@StefanReich 7 років тому
I've thought about similar stuff (minimal set of fixed move sequences to solve a cube), but never thought it out fully. Nice
@jasonli1895
@jasonli1895 6 років тому
I leanrt to solve a Rubik's cube within 25 seconds years ago but now I finally understand where those magic algorithms come from! Amazing video!
@groszak1
@groszak1 6 років тому
What if you can't solve the first layer? What if you can't turn the first layer, like in Skewb? What if odd permutations are possible, like in 4x4 (OLL parity)?
@themasstermwahahahah
@themasstermwahahahah 8 років тому
I feel like that kid is smarter than me, so im not sure i can do this
@Galacticavatar
@Galacticavatar 8 років тому
+omegadan Being the child of the Mathologer is a pretty unfair advantage.
@pastasandwich
@pastasandwich 8 років тому
+Brendan O'Neill those god damn "enriched" math classes but seriously smart kid
@ryan-rs7mj
@ryan-rs7mj 8 років тому
+PastaSandwich its easy
@ramenmurugadoss1026
@ramenmurugadoss1026 8 років тому
You don't need smartness to solve a rubiks cube
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+RM CUBER If you do want to find to find your own solutions you've got to be very persistent and a pretty good problem solver :)
@sanjayrao3257
@sanjayrao3257 7 років тому
I have always wanted to solve the cube without resorting to mugging a solution from the web. Using the concept explained in your video, I was able to create my own solution... far more satisfying. Thanks a ton
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
Great, congratulations :)
@lisaskanal8706
@lisaskanal8706 7 років тому
Great video! With this trick I came up with my own algoritm (for twisting two edge pieces around in the pyraminx) I am very excited because this is the first algorithm I've ever came up with by my self, so thanx for sharing this trick!
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
Glad this is working out for you. A whole universe of twisty puzzles is waiting for you to be solved :)
@IcyShard1001
@IcyShard1001 8 років тому
Ahh the famous cupboard with all the cubes.....
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+ShadowVyrus Yep, and now we want to solve them all :)
@IcyShard1001
@IcyShard1001 8 років тому
Good luck! Although I'm sure you dont need it haha
@aleksawower
@aleksawower 7 років тому
God damn I love Rubik's cubes.
@El_Andru
@El_Andru 7 років тому
What does he have fucking cancer?
@gmoorthy4564
@gmoorthy4564 7 років тому
Get cancer B-)
@phyranios9091
@phyranios9091 7 років тому
+Andy Panda no the dude shaved his head for a hair cake and someone pointed out he looks like a cancer patient (can't remember who) and this channel has jumped on that
@El_Andru
@El_Andru 7 років тому
Ballistical 935 Lol, I know I have watched too much IdubbbzTV, but in the "Hair cake video" in a part of the secons "cancer skit" he is like standing and coughing and a voice says that "What does he have, fuckin' cancer? It makes me laugh every time and the voice is so perfectly timed. But yeah, I know
@aleksawower
@aleksawower 7 років тому
Andy Panda Can you give me the cancer, please?
@phillipreay
@phillipreay 2 роки тому
My conlang for cube moves makes rhythmic patterns of move sequences. Each move is a syllable, so easy to remember. FaTa Foto Roto Ra / trade two corners FoTo FaTa RoTa RaTo ToRa TaRo / rotate two corners To RosTiRas To & Ta RosTiRas Ta / orbit three edges (RosTa)^4 (RasTo)^4 / flip two edges These moves solve by doing one face first, then remaining corners, then edge pieces last. Faces are Consonants: T for Top, F for Front, L for Left, R for Right Turns are vowel sounds.. Ō for clockwise, Ā for Anticlockwise, and Ī for a for 180’ flip. To turn the Middle “Inner Slice” layer append an S I learned this when cubes first came out and was a master back then at under at 30 seconds. Amazing to see the fast times now. Anyway, I am sure this little constructed language rewired my kinesthetic hand neurons to my verbal language and rhythm neurons. There is a certain feeling I get in my hands when I’m recalling the words that is hard to describe, and also happens when drumming.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 2 роки тому
interesting :)
@RedsBoneStuff
@RedsBoneStuff 8 років тому
I've come pretty far by inventing all my algorithms myself and without looking up any recipies. I can solve my 2x2, 3x3, 5x5, 7x7, 10x10, 3x3x4, 2x2x4, megaminx, and a few other weird thingies. However, I have been doing it the hard way. When I only had a 3x3 and got the 5x5, it took me over two years to figure it out. What you showed in this video is genius and it will be really helpful to me. I will be able to replace some of my long algorithms with shorter commutator-based ones, and it will be easier to figure out my future puzzles. Thanks!
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+RedsBoneStuff That's great. Hope you'll have as much fun using this trick in the future as I've had over the years :O)
@s4archie
@s4archie 6 років тому
Thanks for a(nother) great video. After solving for 20+ years using a learned solution I had a lot fun today designing my own. One question though: you say that the method is sufficient for all the cubes in the cabinet, but there's a 4x4x4 in there that needs parity-changing moves. I don't see how you can get those via this method (e.g. flipping two adjacent edge pieces).
@trangium
@trangium 5 років тому
Using Mathologer's method, you can only swap an even number of pieces. If a puzzle has parities, they will always be one move you can perform that does an odd number of swaps. In the 4x4 case, an r move (inner layer) will do the trick. Do an r move, then re-solve the affected pieces with ONLY commutators (Mathologer's Method)
@user-gi3ro9rm9k
@user-gi3ro9rm9k 7 років тому
i know how to crack all rubiks cubes. 1. take a hammer 2. smash it 3. be happy that you cracked a rubiks cube
@Hythloday71
@Hythloday71 8 років тому
nice, it's kind of like the advice to start a proof you forget by starting at the conclusion and running backward ... usually meeting up with where you could remember ... or provoking the forward memory.
@solfeinberg437
@solfeinberg437 4 роки тому
Simple insight. Completely clear logic. Empowers us to do something we could never ever have done. The three categories of people. I could've designed my own solutions, but I don't think I'd ever have come up with the insight - design a sequence that makes a single change to the top. Reversing it restores the bottom and the top. If we turn the top before reversing it - we restore the bottom but apply the reverse change to the top relative to a new edge. Man, I'm gonna go find my cube.
@76Raby
@76Raby 8 років тому
I never thought about it this way, but you are right.
@CubeFace69
@CubeFace69 8 років тому
I know how to solve most cubes but next time i get a new cube i am going to try this.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
Cool, it is really a lot of fun to do it this way :)
@CubeFace69
@CubeFace69 8 років тому
Mathologer hmmm, any puzzles you recommend
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
Well, have you done all the puzzles shown in the poster shot of the puzzle yet? In order of difficulty I'd recommend to proceed like this: Pyraminx, the octahedron shaped one in the back, the Megaminx, Curvy Copter, the Rex cube (here the trick will only get you (a large) part of the way)
@CubeFace69
@CubeFace69 8 років тому
Mathologer Hmm i might try the Curvy Copter. i dont have that one thanks!
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
Have fun :)
@benc8386
@benc8386 7 років тому
Brilliant! Like many people I could solve the top layer when I was 11... then when I was about 40 I read some pdfs about commutators and things and worked out a solution. But I've never seen commutation explained so intuitively. I could have understood this when I was 11 and also applied it (but would never have thought of it). Now I'm gonna try the 4x4x4 and 5x5x5 and maybe one day the 3x3x3x3 :)
@squarehead6c1
@squarehead6c1 3 роки тому
With the help of this trick, I finally managed to solve the last layer of the Minx and MegaMinx. Thanks!
@pokefanmelody
@pokefanmelody 7 років тому
better plan: pai- DANGIT HIS SHIRT BEAT ME TO IT Um... move the stickers! What do you mean you have a stickerless one?! Um... TAKE IT APART AND PUT IT BACK TOGETHER!!!
@Pete-Logos
@Pete-Logos 3 роки тому
Lets see you take it apart and put it back together faster than a cuber who solves it the right way.
@noahwilliams8996
@noahwilliams8996 7 років тому
Can this work on the Rubik's hypercube?
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
Yes, however, there are slicker ways of thinking your way through to a solution that build on what you already know about the 3x3x3. Did you already watch my video on the Rubik's hypercube? ukposts.info/have/v-deo/sZiBfGdqbW-AuJc.html
@noahwilliams8996
@noahwilliams8996 7 років тому
Mathologer Not yet.
@rohangeorge712
@rohangeorge712 4 роки тому
Wow, what a trick to solve any puzzle like that. He even showed examples of a megaminx. So it is possible to use this method to solve any puzzle. Just brilliant.
@tariq3d
@tariq3d 7 років тому
Love you Mathologer, great video. I am always try to understand the idea behind those algorithms but could not succeed till you showed me the path to find the hidden truth. Thank you Sir.
@Thelacho7
@Thelacho7 8 років тому
I saw that tumbnail text reference Lotr
@CoolJoe330
@CoolJoe330 8 років тому
One weird trick
@raterix2
@raterix2 8 років тому
9:03 Oh, that's an U perm... easy
@supergamer-oj9ls
@supergamer-oj9ls 4 роки тому
Exactly😂
@schierlm
@schierlm 8 років тому
That's quite an interesting trick. Many years ago (before the time of the Internet), after I was able to solve the first two layers (using a similar trick of destroying one corner to fix the second layer, moving the destroyed corner around, then restoring the corner together with the last piece), I could have used that solution very well. What I did instead was trying to find sequences of less than 10 moves (turn corner, down, left, up, left, down, 2left, up, for example) that left the top 2 rows intact, applied them on the cube "upside down" and wrote down (and memorized) what they changed, then tried to combine those moves to solve the cube. Until today, I do not know a solution for every case, but usually by trying any of those moves (e. g. that move only corners) a few times at random, I get to a pattern I can solve. Next time I'm trying to solve a cube and am stuck at a pattern I don't know how to solve, I'll try your method :)
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Michael Schierl Let me know how you go :)
@plovet
@plovet 8 років тому
+Mathloger. Thanks for the video and for encouraging people to solve it by themselves. I managed to solve the rubik's cube (by myself!) a few years ago and was very-very-very happy and proud to have finally done so. My approach was different but that made it more interesting to hear what you said. Good luck to any who is trying it for themselves! Enjoy it!
@lumschente
@lumschente 5 років тому
I can solve the first layer Wait, I can solve all layers xD
@augustmoviereviewer
@augustmoviereviewer 7 років тому
I laughed my butt of when I saw an unsolved pyraminx duo. It literally only takes 4 moves to solve!
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
What is your point?
@augustmoviereviewer
@augustmoviereviewer 7 років тому
My point is your talking about being able to solve "any cube on that self" yet so many aren't solved
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
I actually find that always having a couple of unsolved puzzles lying around is a great way of getting people who visit me in my office interested in actually trying to solve them. In fact I know of at least 20 of my students who got started as speed cubers in this way :)
@augustmoviereviewer
@augustmoviereviewer 7 років тому
Huh
@serbudder6510
@serbudder6510 7 років тому
+Mathologer good idea
@bellab4797
@bellab4797 8 років тому
Fantastic video! It's great to be able to understand the logic behind it all - thank you for sharing your time and knowledge, I appreciate it👱
@shenqilu4470
@shenqilu4470 8 років тому
thank you for your knowledge. I mean I used to learn some of them in class, but never think to apply like that.thank you for your treasure. And it's generous of you to share the trick.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Shenqi Lu Great, glad you got something out of this video :)
@Rikri
@Rikri 7 років тому
So commutators? It takes more than just commutators to "solve them all".
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
That and a bit of brain :)
@Rikri
@Rikri 7 років тому
Mathologer For example, if a non-cuber watched this video and understood everything in it, they probably STILL wouldn't be able to solve a 3x3.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
Maybe check out some of the comments left by people who've done exactly that, designed their own algorithms based on what I talk about in this video and then solved the 3x3x3 using these algorithms (and a bit of common sense). Obviously, intellectwise you have to register a certain pulse to be able to design your own commutator based algorithms even knowing this trick. However, once you passed that hurdle I'd say you can be pretty sure that you are also sorted enough in the common sense department to use these algorithms to solve a 3x3x3 :)
@Rikri
@Rikri 7 років тому
Mathologer That's not what I mean. Most non-cubers don't even know how to BEGIN solving a Rubik's Cube. Making pairs here and there and hoping to get to a point where it's comprehensible. You explained how to make algorithms, not much of the rest.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
Well, there are millions of people/non-cubers who've figured out by themselves how to complete the first layer starting from zero. That's a pretty good start. Now my point is that if you got that far, you've got all you need to make up a basic set of algorithms. And, if you actually took the time to go through with this, using those algorithms to solve the Cube should be trivial. And, just in case you need a bit of help along the way (how to record moves and how to apply algorithms), I've provided instructions in the second supporting part of this video on Mathologer 2 :)
@xseveredsaintx
@xseveredsaintx 7 років тому
a trick to crack all cubes? throw the thing at the floor at the fastest speed possible
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
That would definitely work too. There must be a channel somewhere that specialises in smashing twisty puzzles :)
@Pete-Logos
@Pete-Logos 3 роки тому
Ok, on the count of 3, you take your cube and smash it & I'll solve mine the right way, and lets see if you can sweep up the mess you made before I'm done solving the cube. 1, 2, 3,...
@accidentalengineering
@accidentalengineering 8 років тому
I've been solving cubes for years now, but never understood how people came up with algorithms without computers. Thank you for this video!
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Gergely Hornich Glad this worked for you and thank you very much for saying so :)
@B42UC4
@B42UC4 6 років тому
I had never thought that way about creating "magic moves". So simple and yet so powerful.
@auaiomrn
@auaiomrn 6 років тому
4th outcome: move all the stickers around and "solve" it
@cosinev1265
@cosinev1265 8 років тому
The edge flipping algorithm is L' R F2 L R' D L' R F' L R' Reverse is L' R F L R' D' L' R F2 L R'
@groszak1
@groszak1 6 років тому
The edge flipping algorithm is M D2 M' D M D' M' Reverse is M D M' D' M D2 M'
@sheilastewart1914
@sheilastewart1914 6 років тому
Josh Costantini is that how u solve it?
@rishabhgupta1447
@rishabhgupta1447 5 років тому
Thank you for this extremely helpful video! After watching this video I got into solving various twisty puzzles and my journey so far has been a very fruitful one. One request - can you make such a video to explain and solve 4 x 4 parity cases? I get stuck at 4 x 4 cube's last layer due to parity cases and then I have to look up other's people recipe to solve it. I have searched the net and could not find a decent explanation and solution to this problem which does not require memorization.
@osoriocarloswerner744
@osoriocarloswerner744 8 років тому
Since i found Ryan Heise's website i've been interested in commutators and conjugates. Watched some videos that helped me A LOT, but yours is by far the most didactic. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Osório Carlos Werner Great, glad it worked so well for you :)
@therecogniser2122
@therecogniser2122 7 років тому
That's amazing. How easy mathematicians solve rubik cube!
@er4795
@er4795 7 років тому
One time I accidentally solved 3 sides at once with the rest of it mixed
@willobrien6788
@willobrien6788 7 років тому
Coz that's possible
@pizzawithmyimaginaryfriend1173
@pizzawithmyimaginaryfriend1173 7 років тому
+Sebastien Cuadrado No
@funicubing7340
@funicubing7340 7 років тому
+Will.I.Minecraft 1 side 2 sides and 3 sides solved are all possible you're wrong
@user-ji3ls3ub9r
@user-ji3ls3ub9r 6 років тому
Out if all the tutorial videos for solving the rubiks cube, this is the best by far!!! Not only it doesn't give you an algorithm, but also lets you CREATE your own solution!!!! There is just one thing, about the commutators. Since we have to run it in reverse it should be ABB(-1)A(-1)
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 6 років тому
Have another look: A is your sequence of moves, B is the quarter turn. We first execute A, then B, then A in reverse, then B in reverse and so the commutator is ABA^(-1)B^(-1) :) Also, AA^(-1) does nothing, neither does BB^(-1).
@ARandomN3rd
@ARandomN3rd 8 років тому
Good job explaining. Although, I do find the method I learned is easier, I still think this is a good idea for non Cubers who don't know the methods I know
@Rikard_Nilsson
@Rikard_Nilsson 7 років тому
My trick is better, I just use a screwdriver.
@salonishedbale7679
@salonishedbale7679 7 років тому
😂😂😂😂😂
@davidlu4742
@davidlu4742 7 років тому
it still takes way longer than if u solve it manually
@Rikard_Nilsson
@Rikard_Nilsson 7 років тому
I don't have that amount of patience to invest in a game.
@crazymarkmc
@crazymarkmc 7 років тому
Life is a game, whats your point?
@aidenmatlack7812
@aidenmatlack7812 7 років тому
+CrazyMarkSRB not rly if i think about it
@MASTERMIND2368
@MASTERMIND2368 8 років тому
You can't flip one edge
@fawzibriedj4441
@fawzibriedj4441 7 років тому
You can if you only care about the first layer, that's what he did in the begining. But if you care about the other layers, you can only flip an even number of edges.
@error.418
@error.418 7 років тому
And he showed that...
@trinhhieu6270
@trinhhieu6270 6 років тому
.... unless you're solving 4x4 or higher!!!!
@andreasschmitt2307
@andreasschmitt2307 8 років тому
I came to this trick 16 years ago, it's so simple! In general you can solve every 3D-Puzzle with it, but you may run in some trouble with cubes bigger than 3x3x3, because this solution requires that a puzzle can always be solved in pairs of moves. This is not the case if a slice is rotated 90 degrees. For a 3x3x3 cube you see this problem instantly, because in the last layer exactly one pair of corners and one pair of edges is swapped. Obviously you can not solve this by the shown algorithm but you fix this simply by turning the third layer one time. For bigger cubes, especially those without centre pieces (4x4x4, 6x6x6 ...) you start to combine edge pieces and centre pieces until you have a "virtual" 3x3x3 and solve this, but at last you may see something that is just impossible with a 3x3x3, like one single flipped edge. For me that means turning a slice of this "impossible" piece and starting over again. The second time it goes faster because most things are still grouped together and you are sure that this time it can be solved. I'm sure there are faster ways, but it's sufficient for me that I can solve each existing 3D puzzle and also each still to come :-)
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Andreas Schmitt Could not have said it better :)
@arabiccompprograming5161
@arabiccompprograming5161 8 років тому
Mathologer: Professor Thank you for the valuable advice. I really appreciate it Thanks again.
@zombiedude347
@zombiedude347 8 років тому
I created an algorithm similar to the one at 4:02. I started with an E turn (equivalent to D' U), then I used "R F' U R' F" to reorient the FR edge without affecting any other pieces on the E layer. Then, I undid E, and undid "R F' U R' F". This algorithm flips the FL, FR edges. Here's that algorithm in conjugate form [E, R F' U R' F]. The algorithm modified to flip the same edges as you did is [x' z2 U' R': [E, R F' U R' F]] ). x and z are cube rotations.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+zombiedude347 Cool :)
@zombiedude347
@zombiedude347 8 років тому
It's quite similar tip a 3- edge swap that I use on the 7x7x7, with the only difference being that the E layer is replaced by either the 2nd or 3rd layer from the middle.
@ChandanSingh-gj3nc
@ChandanSingh-gj3nc 6 років тому
Thank you sir for this beautiful video,I am a Mathematics students and can really feel the Mathematics you explained. I really appreciate and love the videos. I am going to give a try to develop an algorithm. Thanks you
@atimholt
@atimholt 3 роки тому
That's a bit more clever than what I figured out. I figure(d) out a move that does something that I want, then I perform it twice-once to undo something I've solved, then again (forwards, not backwards) to fix it. Then, (once), I analyzed what the side effects were and pre-positioned as-yet-unsolved pieces to end up correctly-placed when I use the double-move as a move. I can do the cube in 2½ minutes, and I've gotten to the last layer of the Megaminx. The last layer is just a matter of charting it out, but I just haven't bothered. But now you've provided a much better way of working it out. I think most of my moves still work fine, but the last layer has always required some time-consuming move-repetition to work my way through a short cycle of long-ish moves (say 3-4 repetitions of 12-turn moves, then a choice-making step to decide where to do that again, and if it needs to be mirror-image-a couple times).
@KevinsMath
@KevinsMath 7 років тому
What an excellent explanation with great visuals! I've recently come across this channel and really really like it.
@EmosGambler
@EmosGambler 8 років тому
actually this is a simplest way to solve rubiks cube blindfolded. I do it with different algorithms to impress people by solving it without looking at it :). great video!
@SpicyTurkey83
@SpicyTurkey83 7 років тому
I just wanted to let you know how much of an inspiration you are to me. I am an aspiring engineer, who just doesn't have the natural talent of these genius mathematicians, and have been discouraged. You have really given me a spur of hope with your very easy to understand and insightful videos.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
That's great :)
@rowhsv
@rowhsv 8 років тому
Thanks for this, years ago I could solve the 1st 2 layers easily but then had trouble with the last layer. I then memorized moves from a book (this was before the internet) to swap edges, swap corners, flip edges and twist corners, and could then solve the cube while it was popular. But fast forward 30 years and I had forgotten the memorized moves and was again stuck on the last layer. But thanks to this advice, I can now solve the cube again! Now I know what I'm doing, no memorization! I think I'll put it away again and solve it 30 years from now.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+rowhsv Sounds good, now you know this trick you should always be able to reconstruct those algorithms without any help :)
@chayashida
@chayashida 7 років тому
I learned how to solve the Rubik's cube when I was 10. I memorized some patterns that my father had given me (I think they had to mail order the solution) and it's been locked in my head ever since. The trick was to solve one side, then solve the opposite side, and solve the middle layer. Over 30 years later, and that solution is still stuck inside my brain, and I have no idea *why* it works. My parents were very happy that I took and interest in the puzzles, so they got me a Pyraminx (tetrahedron puzzle), a Rubik's Revenge (4x4), and the duodecahedron puzzle (but I don't remember what it's called). I was able to solve the Pyraminx on my own (and don't have any patterns for it) but have never been able to solve the other two. I tried memorizing a new Rubik's Cube solution this past year, where you solve one side, and then start solving layer by layer. I don't have it memorized yet. I was less interested in being fast, but more that I wanted to figure out how to extrapolate the solution from a Rubik's Cube to the Rubik's Revenge. When I saw your video in my feed, I didn't really think it would help. Watching the video, though, was an "Aha!" moment for me. I'll probably need to have a pad of paper with me so that I can write down my moves and replay them, but at least now I have an idea for what direction I need to go in. I'm still not sure if I'm going to solve the cubes layer by layer, or rotate a face in a new direction to solve it, or what, but now I'm excited that I have a new method to try to "figure out" the other puzzles. Thanks a million! I'm also going to share your video with a couple of friends at work. One of them managed to figure out how to solve a Rubik's Cube on his own, and that always impressed me.
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 7 років тому
Great, glad this worked for you :)
@manishkhatri2080
@manishkhatri2080 3 роки тому
It's amazing Now I got it.... I saw this video when I was 16 in 2017 and didn't get anything and bored so I didn't saw whole video.... I was searching for this video from months and I recently saw ur mathmatics video and today I realised u speak the same way the guys I remembered from this video...and u were 😀
@GDScriptDude
@GDScriptDude 10 місяців тому
Interesting! I recently mastered the method to solve the cube in layers, but I think it would be more fun to solve by faces maybe by developing our own moves. I suspect that the layered approach is geared towards speed cubing.
@MuhtasimAlFarabi
@MuhtasimAlFarabi 8 років тому
Your dedication to Rubik's cubes are really appreciating. I'm a speed cuber :)
@Mathologer
@Mathologer 8 років тому
+Muhtasim Al Farabi Cool :)
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