After Columbine: Tragedy, trauma and triumph

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Columbine shooting survivors are joined by a survivor of the Washington Navy Yard shooting and the Aurora Theater shooting to sit down with ABC’s Morgan Norwood to share their long journey of healing.
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@b1646717
@b1646717 14 днів тому
We haven’t learned anything from it. No changes.
@Chatterbox-94
@Chatterbox-94 13 днів тому
School shootings have become a normality. Things are simply getting worse.
@Robertjames525
@Robertjames525 11 днів тому
That’s what our “caring” politicians want!
@juanbotello1
@juanbotello1 9 днів тому
It starts at home. I was 14 years old when Columbine happened. You know what I’ve noticed that has changed? Father absence. Shitty parenting. We can blame guns, as I once did. But that’s not the root cause. It starts at home. We might not prevent all school shootings, but we could reduce them. Parents today blame teachers and everyone else but themselves. My dad was very strict on me and he sided with teachers when I was bad at school. Now, parents point the finger at teachers.
@KnockingONwood1111
@KnockingONwood1111 9 днів тому
​@@juanbotello1that's like saying don't outlaw fentanyl because the drug dealers are the actual issue, or the people swallowing the pills. And it's been used for good at times in the past...
@juanbotello1
@juanbotello1 9 днів тому
@@KnockingONwood1111 we could ban guns but guess what, I’ll get one anyways. You think bad guys are gonna give up their guns? Drugs are illegal, right? Yet, any teen can buy it with ease in their neighborhood. It starts at home.
@kyleschwartz2501
@kyleschwartz2501 8 днів тому
Columbine, Sandy Hook, Stoneman Douglas, Robb Elementary, Virginia Tech, University of Texas, Santa Fe, I can go on and on. That’s not even half of the list. When is this crap going to stop!
@tracianderson9823
@tracianderson9823 10 годин тому
Sadly when someone wants to hurt people they will find a way to do it. A gun is easier but vehicles and knives have been used. Fertilizer can be turned into a weapon Oklahoma shows us that. Planes were used on 9/11. I don’t know what the answer is sadly. Evil people do evil things. I think mental health help could help a lot of people. But sadly many won’t seek out the help and we can’t force it on them. It’s scary and not fair and I’m sorry for that. I can’t change it but I can send love and hugs because I think we all could use more of that. Idk I wanted to end my comment nicer than it started because it is such a dark subject ❤ much love and respect
@julievanderleest
@julievanderleest 14 днів тому
I will never understand why there are people out there who still idolize the monsters of Columbine and continue to believe that they can make such an evil decision and become a school shooter. So many more shootings since and it’s devastating.
@Abraham-uk4xy
@Abraham-uk4xy 13 днів тому
Worse still there are people who say it was staged. If it was staged where are the students who died? People who say this insult the memory of the dead.
@vic5015
@vic5015 13 днів тому
Pitiful people desperate to be famous at any cost.
@vic5015
@vic5015 13 днів тому
​@@Abraham-uk4xythere are people who think Columbine was staged?
@Abraham-uk4xy
@Abraham-uk4xy 13 днів тому
@@vic5015 yes. They also said Sandy Hook and Uvaldie was staged. But never said Parkland was staged. I could never understand why.
@sydneyclement9951
@sydneyclement9951 12 днів тому
@@vic5015Unfortunately. It’s become common. When Sandy Hook happened, tons of people believed it was fake. They claimed that parents and siblings of the victims were simply crisis actors. They believe that the shooting never happened. (Tell that to the parents who had to bury their children 🙄)
@SimbaRobyn
@SimbaRobyn 11 днів тому
I’ll never forget being glued to the TV. I was in high school at the time and it changed everything. We all had to really grow up that day. 😢
@TheTishy44
@TheTishy44 13 днів тому
I was on break sitting outside of work, when all I hear is sirens and sirens….then a helicopter. I was 3 miles from columbine and after that day, Denver changed forever. Then 911 followed, then America changed forever.
@SamuelHendrix-kb8nn
@SamuelHendrix-kb8nn 13 днів тому
25 years now, wow!
@Tikwiza-qw8zn
@Tikwiza-qw8zn 10 днів тому
Right
@fakereality96
@fakereality96 6 днів тому
Tell me about it.
@shadowarcher3966
@shadowarcher3966 12 днів тому
RIP to those who lives were lost on that day
@kristinalenkowsky
@kristinalenkowsky 13 днів тому
I graduated college in May of 2023, and I couldn’t believe one of the first thoughts I had was- wow, I can take a deep breath, I’m fortunate enough to say I’ve never been in a violent school attack- and that being an achievement or thought when graduating is heartbreaking. 💔
@wyl.22
@wyl.22 13 днів тому
I feel that. I still have some more schooling left but it is kinda scary to think about. I have experience an attack on my school bus when I was a kid but no one was hurt and it was over within seconds nothing too major. I am more worried about my nephew growing up. I have been part of actual lockdown drills that turned out to be a prank and a few that were a poorly behaved child but nothing to this extreme. I don't want my nephew to go through that too
@teresaS496
@teresaS496 13 днів тому
Same 😭😭😭
@deannanorris03
@deannanorris03 13 днів тому
I graduated hs in 2022 I graduate college in 2026 when I graduated hs I felt relief .... but we just had a bomb threat and a mass shotting threat in one day ......
@brucecampbell4528
@brucecampbell4528 12 днів тому
You can't be serious it's a joke right?
@boomds5602
@boomds5602 12 днів тому
@@brucecampbell4528 probably a very real thought
@sophielegault2278
@sophielegault2278 12 днів тому
25 years later still heartbreaking and sad😭😭
@nicatina
@nicatina 12 днів тому
No teenagers should ever have to face violence on their own at a young age, whether it be at school, mall, movie theater, or other crowded places where it will all most likely take place. Nobody should ever have to endured that. As these five survivors who shared their stories, I'm proud of them all for staying strong all these years and hopefully, their stories keeps being told and shared.
@forlife84
@forlife84 10 днів тому
I was in 9th grade when Columbine happened. The following day a friend of mine committed suicide. I remember that time feeling very traumatic, and I didn't even go to school there.
@To_The_Moon96
@To_The_Moon96 9 днів тому
Sorry about your friend
@nameperson3581
@nameperson3581 3 дні тому
A fellow 1984 person!
@aggu5477
@aggu5477 13 днів тому
and yet nothing has changed
@spiralrose
@spiralrose 12 днів тому
Nope! If anything things have gotten worse.
@spiralrose
@spiralrose 12 днів тому
After a teacher was shot in my state, her school board tried to say that getting shot was an occupational hazard for teachers, and therefore she Couldn’t sue. Messed up
@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288
@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 12 днів тому
@@spiralrose wow, beyond the pale. Wonder if your locality has a teacher shortage now? Repeal PLCAA (2005) to restore liability to gun manufacturers, and their own lawyers will insist on gun safety protocols at point of sale to demonstrate due diligence in court proceedings.
@acooksla
@acooksla 12 днів тому
It’s worse all the time, it won’t end
@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288
@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 12 днів тому
Bad gun policy got us here. Better gun policy can get us back.
@hught6885
@hught6885 12 днів тому
Has it been 25 yrs? Wow
@BriaBarrows
@BriaBarrows 5 днів тому
Yup
@ruthbtpar
@ruthbtpar 12 днів тому
“i’ve had more funerals than birthdays” 😕
@sharker102s
@sharker102s 9 днів тому
you need to stop attending funerals due to it be depressing
@acooksla
@acooksla 12 днів тому
America is a tragedy. I left five years ago due in large part of the fear of random violence. What a terrible thing that this has become the norm in America. Shameful
@Noahbarkley-vq3ef
@Noahbarkley-vq3ef 12 днів тому
It's not guns tho
@sinnerforlife2827
@sinnerforlife2827 4 дні тому
And they blamed heavy metal music , Marylin Manson , movies and video games for that tragedy. Nowadays it’s just mental health. SMH!!! Please
@katieh1752
@katieh1752 9 днів тому
I was 6 when this happened and vividly remember it. Completely awful and the fact that so many similar incidents have followed is unacceptable.
@blackheartkoda2269
@blackheartkoda2269 10 днів тому
nothings changing people keep dying but no one is doing anything about it.
@isaacdurfey6978
@isaacdurfey6978 13 днів тому
It’s still heartbreaking to this day. I mean it was the first to really start a string of school shootings
@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288
@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 12 днів тому
Ten states already ban AR 15. What are the other states waiting for.
@emilyjades
@emilyjades 10 днів тому
nothing has changed :( rest in peace to the victims. you are not forgotten.
@rickroser59
@rickroser59 12 днів тому
Prayers for All of you
@DeAngeloStevens
@DeAngeloStevens 10 днів тому
No Facebook, Twitter, UKposts, iPhones were around 25 years ago in 1999.
@Angel-xd9lt
@Angel-xd9lt 9 днів тому
and there are still shootings going on today and we have a big problem and its only going to get worse... I remember Columbine April 20 1999 and then September 11 2001 everything changed forever*** Nothing was ever the same and we had to grow up real fast.
@fallonparks1883
@fallonparks1883 14 днів тому
Prayers for those families rest in peace sweet angles
@guerovillalbaso2523
@guerovillalbaso2523 13 днів тому
If she was a senior in 1999 how old is she now ?
@CP-ho2wj
@CP-ho2wj 13 днів тому
43
@MoparGuy1625
@MoparGuy1625 12 днів тому
Math is hard…
@AntiMasonic93
@AntiMasonic93 12 днів тому
Yeah, 43. Class of 1999 here as well. I'm 42 though.
@lindalewis8001
@lindalewis8001 12 днів тому
Sorry for your loss OMG praying for family thanks for sharing blessings 🙏🙏
@marctandoh5335
@marctandoh5335 12 днів тому
She's 43
@marikiemarie7622
@marikiemarie7622 7 днів тому
I was 16 when this happened. My entire high school life was change. I dropped out about 3 mths later. I wasnt even there and about 500 miles away and it effected me so much that i had to drop out. No one understands what a teen goes through when this type of stuff happens. Even when its wasnt directly happing to you. Watching kids your age being dead on tv. Shot and crying. No. It shouldn't have been on the news the way it was. It was awful for me. I was terrified to even look at a school. When my kids started school age. It started all over again. I though i would be ok. Nope. Just the snell of the school set me off. My kids were homeschooled after my oldest first week. Never looked back.
@Lunasent
@Lunasent 13 днів тому
And it's only gotten worse 😢
@user-og6wl4vv7s
@user-og6wl4vv7s 9 днів тому
I remember back before this happened we use to have tornado drills in school then after this happened we didn't have tornado drills anymore
@amyg8761
@amyg8761 9 днів тому
It would be insane to witness something like this. You would never be the same. I'll never understand why people want to hurt others this badly. The mental health of our youth needs to be taken seriously. I'm glad those two Crumley parents were just found guilty. If you see signs in your own kid get them help. Schools have a huge responsibility in the mental health of kids as well. They spend all day at school, therefore schools are responsible for the children during that time "In loco parentis". My heart goes out to all the families and survivors.
@dishish
@dishish 13 днів тому
I was 19 and in colorado and I remember watching this graduation and of course this was way before social media, and I thought wow... let these kids go about their lives. the media sensationalized it and still does.
@CTF1998
@CTF1998 13 днів тому
9:18 That girl in the purple shirt, leading the group, knew Eric and Dylan before the attack and was spared by them
@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022
@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022 12 днів тому
Hinkelberg?
@To_The_Moon96
@To_The_Moon96 9 днів тому
What does spared mean
@j04370859
@j04370859 7 днів тому
​@@To_The_Moon96Let go and not killed.
@smashley4661
@smashley4661 6 днів тому
Last year I watched some videos about Columbine. It finally dawned on me that it took place a month before I was born…
@jessietoney8919
@jessietoney8919 13 днів тому
Back then this was so shocking and unheard of now its sadly nearly a norm. Bullying can drive people to commit horrible acts
@drifter2805
@drifter2805 13 днів тому
This was not about bullying. Good grief wake up
@bsladakovic2939
@bsladakovic2939 13 днів тому
@@drifter2805 It played a big factor. They were psychotic otherwise, their home made videos proves that
@drifter2805
@drifter2805 13 днів тому
@bsladakovic2939 yes, psychotic. My mom's friend since school lives next door to one of the parents. I used to live there. I attended Columbine Elementary
@deannanorris03
@deannanorris03 13 днів тому
none of them were bullied.... they had friends
@brucecampbell4528
@brucecampbell4528 12 днів тому
It still is shocking, like extremely unlikely to happen.
@timbartschwolfman
@timbartschwolfman 13 днів тому
25 years ago tomorrow
@steel115
@steel115 7 днів тому
Nothing even has changed unfortunately, this just so happens to be one of the worst of the worst
@inglouriousbee
@inglouriousbee 7 днів тому
i can only imagine the kids who experience mass shootings like this and Uvalde and Sandy Hook go through… as a child how does one comprehend and get through that?
@maryannhope8276
@maryannhope8276 14 днів тому
💔🙏🏼❤ ☮
@Gaby_Adriana35
@Gaby_Adriana35 7 днів тому
I was in the 8th or 9th grade when this happened and nothing hasn’t changed 😞🥺
@beedle2081
@beedle2081 9 днів тому
And Sue Klebold out here still trying to say her son was ultimately a good person. Truly wild.
@shrekxrohankishibe
@shrekxrohankishibe 9 днів тому
No she doesn’t
@beedle2081
@beedle2081 9 днів тому
@@shrekxrohankishibe She literally says it in her interviews. Fool.
@jennasittler3142
@jennasittler3142 15 годин тому
@@shrekxrohankishibeI didn’t get that impression either
@thevicious86
@thevicious86 8 днів тому
I remember my mom asked me what I was scared about going to high school and I said getting shot.. that was in 2001
@deborahlockwood2610
@deborahlockwood2610 14 днів тому
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@Abcdefghijk920
@Abcdefghijk920 9 днів тому
And what has changed since this? Not a damn thing
@godifiedsaint201
@godifiedsaint201 День тому
😢
@daniellelandi1142
@daniellelandi1142 6 днів тому
I can’t believe it’s been 25 years since it happened I was 10 years old. Rip to all the victim's
@leahmoore6820
@leahmoore6820 11 днів тому
And the only thing that changed was more cameras in schools.
@Ptricia.0220
@Ptricia.0220 14 годин тому
Simply HORRIFIC…….😔
@steelpipetv2073
@steelpipetv2073 13 днів тому
The swat team should be ashamed of themselves they could of saved more lives
@petrinajc
@petrinajc 12 днів тому
It wasn’t a thing they were trained to deal with. It wasn’t normal to have school shootings at this time in history. Now’s it just normalized this was the beginning of the end for school safety
@candicane1
@candicane1 10 днів тому
That was the first time a mass shooting of that magnitude happened in school. Unfortunately, they weren’t trained then on how to handle those situations. How, the Ulvade law enforcement should be ashamed! They had plenty of training and were cowards!
@MrLivvyfan
@MrLivvyfan 3 дні тому
Look at broken families and why these shooters are on depression medicines or should be mental medicines. And why shooters all are bullied.
@spike16965
@spike16965 День тому
I was in the 8th grade back in 99, but was supposed to be in 9th. I remember Columbine happening like it was yesterday. Even though from Ky, I Definitely lost my innocence and security that day. Goodbye freedom in schools and hello Cameras and security. Just sad two kids couldn’t look beyond their own misery and ending so many innocent lives for a brief chapter in life. I hated school too, but I knew once it was done I never saw them people again. I blame a-lot of school shootings on the parents as well society in itself. Bullying was a huge problem back then and still is. A-lot of factors plaid into Columbine.
@Kabeyavictoria
@Kabeyavictoria 7 днів тому
It's not just those who died that day, but we should also count those who were injured both physically and spiritually. A few students committed suicid3 by 2000 and 2001 because they couldn’t deal with the legacy of the sh00ting
@BIYShacks
@BIYShacks 12 днів тому
Question of the day, Should The Parents Of The Shooters Be Brought Up On Charges 25 Years Later ?
@boomds5602
@boomds5602 12 днів тому
No
@brianlemmon3938
@brianlemmon3938 10 днів тому
Hear how crazy you sound?
@lisatbelk
@lisatbelk 10 днів тому
Different circumstances between Columbine and Oxford school shooting
@1611_KJV
@1611_KJV 13 днів тому
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; Psalms 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Corinthians 15:3-4 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. . . . ''''' '
@jillf-ox5lf
@jillf-ox5lf 12 днів тому
I didn't realize how ingrained this was in my psyche until a fellow teacher and I asked each other if trench coats were against our students dress codesand we came to the conclusion that no, it just felt like it should be to us because we were the same age as those Columbine students. 💔
@teresaS496
@teresaS496 13 днів тому
I can’t believe it was the same year that I was born 😭
@user-xq2lk6rf1u
@user-xq2lk6rf1u 13 днів тому
Still going on about this
@gabrielmikhail7525
@gabrielmikhail7525 11 днів тому
They weren’t trenchcoats they were dusters. Big difference dude.
@worldtraveler3044
@worldtraveler3044 10 днів тому
Both these parents should have been charged & perhaps history would be changed for so many children
@BlakeMontgomery42099
@BlakeMontgomery42099 6 днів тому
No they shouldn't, different circumstances between this and Oxford.
@vashmatrix5769
@vashmatrix5769 13 днів тому
Yet the other side keeps opposing anythibg that protects kids because they want these to happen to push their agenda.
@BlakeMontgomery42099
@BlakeMontgomery42099 6 днів тому
Trueee
@SonicGlitchmaster1
@SonicGlitchmaster1 10 днів тому
Yo, can we stop making these people talk about it? It was 25 years ago and clearly it still affects them deeply all these years later. Stop making them relive it for clout. Let them move on with their lives
@candicane1
@candicane1 10 днів тому
I don’t think anyone is forcing them. They’re voluntarily discussing it. Maybe it’s cathartic for them.
@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288
@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 14 днів тому
The majority of the USA population supports gun safety legislation. Regain House majority, 60 Senators so we can get legislation passed. 🗽
@brucecampbell4528
@brucecampbell4528 12 днів тому
Or just a thought secure schools and do what the rest of the world has done. Keep our children safe and stop blaming law abiding Americans.
@spiralrose
@spiralrose 12 днів тому
Nothing’s gonna pass it. If it were possible to have smart gun control past, it would’ve been passed by now. People have been trying for decades.
@spiralrose
@spiralrose 12 днів тому
To get SeaWorld to stop breeding orcas, there had to be 30 years of protest and one Human Involved tragedy and the media had to be all over it. We’ve had over 30 years of campaigning for smart gun control, we’ve had tragedy upon tragedy, and the media aren’t shy about getting every detail they can. Not a damn thing has changed
@boomds5602
@boomds5602 12 днів тому
@@brucecampbell4528 lol The rest of the world Doesn’t have guns. I went to school in Canada. Our school doors were never locked, you didn’t have to check in, there wasn’t bullet proof anything or guard at school and never a school shooting
@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288
@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 12 днів тому
@@brucecampbell4528 The rest of the world believes in gun safety regulations. Australia, New Zealand, Great Britain, Canada, etc. Our population is oversaturated with guns. Guns are very dangerous things, they should be difficult to obtain. Prevention is key, prevention is more possible in a gun control environment. Open carry, no permits? That's chaos. Ask law enforcement how they control something that is out of control.
@vashmatrix5769
@vashmatrix5769 13 днів тому
Yet they still push the evolutionism religion which motivated them.
@YourSecretIsSafeWithMe
@YourSecretIsSafeWithMe 13 днів тому
Why do people give out can goods? Poor people enjoy gift cards and direct cash payments.
@MoparGuy1625
@MoparGuy1625 12 днів тому
Beggers can be choosers.
@louis-vd3ur
@louis-vd3ur 13 днів тому
Neither boys parents have ever made a public apology or interview. They would be able to tell you what happens when you emotionally neglect your children they attack the innocent.
@Therezumee92
@Therezumee92 13 днів тому
Don't lie. Klebold's mother has.
@InTheMourning421
@InTheMourning421 13 днів тому
That is definitely a lie. One of the mothers definitely has spoken openly about it. You also failed to mention that both of those boys were bullied by their peers and the teachers and school did nothing to stop it. Those boys were targeting certain students. The students that bullied them.
@CharlesMcKinneyIV
@CharlesMcKinneyIV 13 днів тому
One of the mothers has done TED talks and has advocated against gun violence. These parents lost their children as well we often forget.
@YourSecretIsSafeWithMe
@YourSecretIsSafeWithMe 13 днів тому
@@Therezumee92She was doing book promotion. That’s not an apology. That’s blood money.
@deannanorris03
@deannanorris03 13 днів тому
@@InTheMourning421 ummmm no they weren't....... maybe they weren't popular but they weren't bullied they had their own circle of friends
@user-eo7oh8px9e
@user-eo7oh8px9e 12 днів тому
Heather still got the body of a 18 year old
@emandeli1585
@emandeli1585 12 днів тому
You have serious issues.
@monk4ever
@monk4ever 9 днів тому
🤮
@starryeyes90210
@starryeyes90210 7 днів тому
Ewww wtf so weird
@Noahbarkley-vq3ef
@Noahbarkley-vq3ef 12 днів тому
I thought we decided like 15 yrs ago this was staged?!?!?
@boomds5602
@boomds5602 12 днів тому
Uh no, I guess 15 year ago is when you became a braindead idiot
@mariee.5912
@mariee.5912 12 днів тому
Who's we??
@user-vc1oz9rv6v
@user-vc1oz9rv6v 14 днів тому
Holy h3ll. Missy Mendo has really let herself go.
@kimberly_rebecca9271
@kimberly_rebecca9271 13 днів тому
Shut up
@He-lovesnylaaa
@He-lovesnylaaa 10 днів тому
Or maybe she became a mom and had a kids body shaming on a video like this is crazy
@YEP_THATS_IT11
@YEP_THATS_IT11 10 днів тому
I remember watching on TV in 8th Grade, and being terrified to go to HS, I recall the trench coat mafia being a thing after this - so all the goth kids got a side-eye.... but even after all of that, there wasn't alot of worry abt it; but then after 2005-2006 its been hell ever since! We never had to do active shooter drills, our biggest trauma was tornado drills. Our babies will carry this trauma for the rest of their lives!
@poobutt5335
@poobutt5335 10 днів тому
And nothing has changed
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