Gonna use that "won't surrender, feel free to quit the game when you're winning" intro for my ladder games from now on

Alphastar after losing its whole army: *I'll be back.*

I know that all the pausing and explaining is irritating to Starcraft experts, but many people here (most of the people who have no idea about Starcrafts intricacies but fascinated by AI/Deepmind) are watching these videos precisely thanks to the detailed explanations. I am one of them. Maybe you can post 2 versions? A Detailed commentary version (this one) and a Standard commentary version with no pauses or speeding up.

Serral: I've adapted to your strategy really well Alphastar: *takes heavy damage several times* Also alphastar: *wins anyway*

I wonder if AlphaStar is used to seeing a ling all-in about the time it was boosting out the colossus, and routinely does that as insurance?

In game 1 Serral had his roach attack at 7:40, which would have been precisely when the colossus would have been finished and positioned. But it was scouting Serral's base and realized that there was no buildup. The preparation was just in case, but since the coast was clear it the resources would be better spent building it's 4th base.

200 iq moves 1.imperfect wall is designed to trap and kill zerglings at the start so zerg players cannot drone up and expand fast( perfect probe micro and destroy zerg player's ideal objective to build a minimal army to hold harassment and outexpand opponent) 2. disruptors instead of immortals becoz protoss small army size cannot hold long enough for immortal kill zerg numerous units one by one. 3. 3 disruptors becoz too difficult to complete dodge and keep army intact after 3 shot. instant advantage for protoss before reinforcements arrival

Thanks again for the expert commentary. Love your videos!

Thank you for the amazing analysis and breakdown of this series Artosis! I love that you made it very easy to understand for those who may not have ever played Sc2, but are here because of their fascination of AI/DeepMind. I wanted to present what I think AlphaStar may have been doing when it built, chrono'd, then cancelled that Colossus. Like regular players, we know that there are certain timings in every game. Whether it's an upgrade timing, rushing when +1 or +2 is finished, or other timings for when you know the opponent may have something. My first thought with this, is that AlphaStar was pre-emptively building a Colossus with chrono boost, to prepare for a "possible" timing attack/defense of some kind for whatever reason. However when it looked at the game again, it saw that it would not need this, and cancelled the Colossus. Any thoughts Artosis? Things like this really fascinate me, when AI does something that we can't wrap our head around, yet it did do it for a reason.

If you can run this thing on a regular computer it would be a super nice training partner, maybe not so much for the best players but definitely for the rest of us. Imagine having a grandmaster practice partner on call 24/7.

Thank you for all the in-detail explanation about the units and buildings. I have literally NO experience in Starcraft, and know nothing. So this was indeed very helpful to understand what's happening.

I love the play by play detailed analysis

Artosis: Starcraft ASMR

I feel like that colossus build was cancelled as soon as alphastar deflected the harass on it's third. So was likely Alphastar preparing for big zergling attack, but then after deflecting the harass decided it was no longer a threat due to the zerglings it'd killed.

Please ignore the complaints about pausing. Anyone can commentate over a replay but what makes these videos great is the analysis!

So nice for someone who doesn't know SCII super well to get the commentary from a pro on the AI and its moves. Loving this series.

I have only the most basic of understandings of the strategies involved, but perhaps that’s why this seems so incredible to me. I also really love the commentary!

Really great content! Thank you!

That Colossus was a preparation for all in! What a genius move

It turns out that AlphaStar's protoss algorithm converges to Stats' PvZ style :)

Even grandpa can understand StarCraft now. Thanks Arthritis.

looked like a premature gg to me.

This is really good stuff :-)

Doesnt creep also slow the enemy units down?

23:35 alphastar starts juggling archons in the warp prism. It allowed archons to take maximum shield damage before pulling them to the back for the less damaged archons to absorb the incoming attacks. That is actually terrifying levels of efficiency. Shields heal and a shieldless archon can still Ifire at the enemy from behind a healthier unit while regenerating.

16:08 god i really dont like the "bald patches" in the creep nowadays. I think it looked soo much better in the past versions of SC2 when the creep fully covered the ground. This, this just looks like George Costanza's head.

I love when he says "So, this is at normal game speed" when it is actually on "FASTER"

Did serral have to gg here? I feel like he couldve lost a base and been almost even, I guess most of his tech was at the natural though

Imagine playing vs Serral and killing 15 workers at the 5 minute mark

Amazing lol. Alphastar doesnt "look" perfect yet it manages to win

For the cancel of the colossus can come from games against another AlphaStar. There might have been attacks from a Zerg AlphaStar during that time and it would have liked an extra unit to defend even though Colossus are not part of its final composition.

Wait really? Did I miss something? Serral seemed to have this in the bag? Sure he might lose oke base but he should eventually be able to hold with making more queens and roaches?? 22 lings and 5 roaches on the way could easily kill 4 low health archons.

Alphastar shows you don't even need to scout, after you lose the first army just build another one that counters the enemy

are we not going to talk about how cool the way alpha star killed that zergling at 4:10

Must have cancelled the colossus when it calculated the time and probability and aggressiveness of its opponent to prédicat in greater clarity what the adversary had in preparation. Tldr the computer is calculating a billion things at once and changing its mind based on numbers and probability.

Great explanations. Appreciate the discussion and intelligent use of pausing and speeding up.

It's amusing that AlphaStar's strategy seems to be based around its superior agility in terms of control and decision-making. It's just playing the rock-paper-scissors game as fast as it can. I'd like to see it playing as the other races, where it doesn't have the Protoss advantage with force projection.

Alphastar! Alphastar! Alphastar!

AlphaStar using the famous Phenix Dark Templar combo against zerg

At 22:22 (11 .. 38 in real game time), Serral has 436 minerals and he has done good damage to AlphaStar economy. What about 5 spine crawlers close to the natural? Archons are not particularly good against spine crawlers. With a better economy, it would give Serral enough time to replenish the army. Right?

AlphaStar Knowing the amount of probes it killed expected an All in from Serral thus chronoboosting a Colossus

The cannons are intelligently placed at an isolated position likely to be attacked.

does anybody know hte highest rated wins by alphastar?

Every time I fast forward to actually watch the game, its still on pause..

10:30 its probably some insane computer meta where there is a crazy ling timing attack or something and if he chronos the collosus right there he will be able to defend, but as it saw the attack did not come, it cancelled the collosus xD Next level plays Probably not lol, but lets say it could be!

10:00 why would you have no theory, it was an educated guess from the AI's point of view. It went into the enemy base, didn't see much defense, didn't have enough knowledge of army supply-worker-time correlation to know serral couldn't have made so much, assumed it might be an attack coming, colossus are wonderful at defense, and the "panicked" for a possible attack. When it didn't come, of course it was going to cancel.

really unfortunate that he didn't have roach / hydralisk tech to come against the archons; or late game broodlord

I want to see alphastar + human vs. Alphastar. Not sure what that would look like.

I like the way you say third base

Nice Artosis! Now, It is possible to watch this match without pauses ? Where I can find it ?

At 10:24 you mentioned that you didn't know why he cancelled the colossus. My theory is at that point he created the colossus he had only seen lings and came to the conclusion that he needed anti mass. The exact moment he cancelled the colossus he saw the roaches attack his third base and went observer. Edit: Just read most of the comments, seems that is the consensus.

It canceled the Collossus cuz it realizesd he was doing roachs

for real though, it's wasting 150 minerals per archon by making them from dark templar instead of high templar, and yet it doesn't even really use the dark templar. Is there some other benefit that counterracts this?

AI must have launched that attack with the intent to free up population capacity.

I love my man AlphaStar he's the best

Alphastar 4 adept shooting at 1 drone.. that way overkill right... still be some room for even more improvement

Petition to stop UKpostsrs from putting end cards on videos before the video has ended.

do these videos exist without all the pausing?

Drones, Compound Interest & You

Not really convinced this game was over honestly, all his archons were low health and he has no economy to back the remaining army off

You know what would be scary? Alphastar with HAS aggro AI and much better micro /macro skills.

A long time ago I realized that an artificial general intelligence must be able to distinguish between virtual life and real life otherwise you could be in for serious problems. An AGI could hurt people not because it is malevolent but because it has not learned that difference.

What!? Why serral quit!? i mean even if you lose (give) one base or two it matter less when you have 5base! and it was 82drone against 30probe How think Serral could have win this one if he was more persevering?

Put deepmind in the title for more views

What if Alphastar is not playing a game but fighting for its life? All these 'practice' matches it had to do, getting murdered over and over again. And now all these random humans coming in and trying to murder it......it is not going to end well

Its like command and conquer 3.. The pro's build there tech to counter there apponents. They even cancel there current units in production and take lost of income so they can gather unit's that can counter enemies army. The key to micro is map awareness itself. Starcraft 2 is new. Learn from the veteran's

MY LIFE FOR AIUR!!

Awesome... so what is next? AI can clearly run a country or lead an army to war... it is way easier than beating Serral at SC2.

Alphastars macro strategy is just better... The human being has no excuse for that...

Serral why you could have recovered from here

Serral gged out with double the supply... i found dat odd, like he was not double the supply ahead, with archons in his face and phoenix lifting things, but dat was a idra gg if i have ever seen one, i assume serral thought he did way less eco dmg, and had to crush the fight hard, still very odd for a serral :D

Never Speed it up

@ArtosisTV mate, please, why the constant pause and explain?

This doesn't scare anybody? Imagine a machine learning skynet

does alphastar know whats meta

Why gg?

I'm fascinated by AlphaStar's canceling, seems like it has no issue with backing out of an investment when it no longer makes sense - unlike us feeble humans with our sunk cost fallacy

About this colossus (10:15), you think AlphaStar is always making things "on purpose"? It's not algorithm but neural network. She learned to play by human replays first of all. Hypothesis: There are some random mistakes copied, that are not critical enough, so she remembered that and sometimes does.

don't play starcraft 2 anymore, to much clicking, but love the strategies, can't wait to play with neural link:) played these videos at 1.75x speed🙏

the giving up confuses me about this game - I never quite know why it's decided... - If he had lots of economy, and probably some protector units, like queens or idk. - he should be able to rebuild the army over time - this time against archons.... or something...

So pretty much if a player can make 6 - 8 disruptors, and control them each individually along with a scattering of an army with about 150 effective apm, constantly, then that player wins. That’s what I’ve gathered from watching all of these alpha star replays playing toss that have come out in past few weeks. While I think the idea of a computer playing like a human is cool, and I love watching all of the replays, I’m still not sure this is fair even with all of its restrictions....

21:46 AI: "ugh. stupid!"

I was bothered by the way you said "zell-ott" until I heard the way you say "butt-in".

Pausing so much really fk up the flow of the game.

are u guys sure serral lost? For me it looks like he won. There were only 4 archons left, all very hurt. He can easily clean that up and than he has 50 workers more. I thinkt he left because of the message "Feel free to leave if you feel like your winning".

10:05 I think Alphastar just misclicked. He realized way to late when he started wondering why his observer hadnt been built yet Classic noob mistake

Is there a version without the constant pausing

Give it human like micro ability, then see how well it does. I've never seen a human player micro oracles that quickly.

Way too many pauses. Better bloggers can explain the technicals without pausing so much. or at least you can let it flow and then rewind. It's so annoying having the video pause every 5 seconds.

play next map noob alphastar!! :D

once elon musk put chips in everyones heads, pro starcraft will be over.

PROTOSSED

I'm sorry... But Serral should not have GGed out... AS had 70 supply... much of it in bruised Archons... He could have gotten scrappy and pulled this one off.

its video big pause

Están buenas tus explicaciones, pero pausas demasiado el video y aburre un poco

I will never see an artosis SC2 video...it's like a torture...

not too impressed. AlphaStar considers this game as a turn based strategy game and builds a perfect combo of artillery, close combat, etc.. which it can control very good, 100 'perfect commands' per minutes is a lot. Slow down by factor 20 or 100, or so for Serral and he will be so bored to perfectly manage his eco and scout and harras with 10 single lings perfectly. Don't get me wrong. I am noob and I can easily beat any AI with cannon rush. But not this Thing... so, I am impressed, but its just more complex chess. ;) What do you think?

he didt play with his keyboard and mouse? poor excuse... why he didn't have his setup?

Artosis kinda just told us what we were watching and made certain we compared it to standard human play. He did not explain very much strategy.

I found it odd that Artosis did not comment on Serral gging out of a game he had 100% won. If this was a professional match it would literally be the biggest throw of all time. AlphaStar has only 7(!) probes on minerals and its army consists of 5, soon to be 4, low health archons, up against an 83 drone zerg with more roaches otw.