American Cheese Isn't Cheese

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Huge thanks to the Point Reyes Farmstead Cheese Company for helping us with the episode! Check out their cheeses and visit the farm at pointreyescheese.com/
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Hi, I'm James. I explore the world looking for interesting engineering stories which explore complex issues in interesting ways. I hold a First-Class Honors in Mechanical Engineering from the University of Western Australia and am currently studying a Masters of Space Systems Engineering at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
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@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier Рік тому
Eating my props after a hot day of filming was not a Gouda idea! Feeling Feta now though.
@The_Engie
@The_Engie Рік тому
Perish
@dankdungeon5104
@dankdungeon5104 Рік тому
cheesy puns
@derf5045
@derf5045 Рік тому
this should be punishable by law
@noaccount4
@noaccount4 Рік тому
Your puns are curdling, you should brie better than that
@rasmusn.e.m1064
@rasmusn.e.m1064 Рік тому
Best way to tell if someone knows how to pronounce a Dutch cheese correctly? Look for how their cheesy puns sound.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Рік тому
Another example is Chocolate, in the UK and other European nation, American Chocolate has so little cocoa in it that it cannot legally be sold as Chocolate
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier Рік тому
Not a terrible idea for our 2023 "America Ruined food X" video. Last year was apples!
@basfinnis
@basfinnis Рік тому
Don't mean to be rude but American chocolate reminds me of gritty mud that someone tipped a load of sugar in 🙁
@shadowfox1609
@shadowfox1609 Рік тому
@@AtomicFrontier ur way late to the cheese party. by at least 3-6 years
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Рік тому
@@basfinnis I hate it as well
@Zelmel
@Zelmel Рік тому
Assuming one isn't buying actually good chocolate that just happens to be from America (as with anything, there are exceptions). Hershey's and the like are trash though.
@Kerbezena
@Kerbezena Рік тому
"these aren't milking robots, they're milking cows" Congratulations, James! I didn't know that you were already a dad at such a young age.
@joanbennettnyc
@joanbennettnyc Рік тому
hee hee hee ;)
@T3sl4
@T3sl4 Рік тому
As long as they're not milking rats. They promised dog or higher!
@MeteorMark
@MeteorMark Рік тому
Lely can't milk Almonds, Oats or Soy either... 😉
@AtomicBuffalo
@AtomicBuffalo Рік тому
Who milks the milkmen?
@Kerbezena
@Kerbezena Рік тому
@@AtomicBuffalo to paraphrase one of my favorite games of all time: "I milk the milkmen, their milk is delicious."
@advisingbob
@advisingbob Рік тому
Canada: "What do you think of this processed cheese?" Other Countries: "Looks disgusting..." Canada: "...which is why it's *American* cheese!" Other Countries: "Makes sense...is that...pineapple...on pizza?" Canada:"...Hawaiian..."
@deehvi1608
@deehvi1608 3 місяці тому
Canada creating disgusting foods and branding them with nationalities to make them acceptable since 1867
@Mr.Helper.
@Mr.Helper. 3 місяці тому
In the movie Dragon, Linda’s mom tol Bruce he was not American … Bruce’s feelings were hurt
@devil8975
@devil8975 3 місяці тому
If I get time machine, that Hawaiian pizza making Canadian is in serious trouble.
@ego-lay_atman-bay
@ego-lay_atman-bay 3 місяці тому
@@devil8975I would still put pineapple on my pizza, but with pepperoni instead of ham.
@Orange_Swirl
@Orange_Swirl 3 місяці тому
​@ego-lay_atman-bay I should try that one of these days. Sounds good.
@deephorizon1365
@deephorizon1365 Рік тому
That part where you revealed that James Kraft called it "American Cheese" as a marketing gimmick made me laugh way too hard 😂
@godmagnus
@godmagnus Рік тому
He's very krafty.
@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466
@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466 Рік тому
The fact that it has nothing to do with patriotism and everything to do with making more money just makes it more American in my eyes.
@daroaminggnome
@daroaminggnome Рік тому
@@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466 Also Kraft immigrated to America, so if his creations don't count as American then nothing does
@TGPDrunknHick
@TGPDrunknHick 4 місяці тому
@@daroaminggnome they must do. a lot of 'american' asian foods or italian foods are considered american even though they were developed by immigrants to america.
@KevinSmith-qi5yn
@KevinSmith-qi5yn 3 місяці тому
Sounds very American.
@MikevanMeer
@MikevanMeer Рік тому
In Dutch we couldn't translate "peanut butter" directly because the word "butter" was protected. So now we call it "pindakaas" which literally means "peanut cheese". Very silly
@alexandercornu6703
@alexandercornu6703 Рік тому
pinda boter klinkt ook gewoon raar
@l.u.c.a.s.
@l.u.c.a.s. Рік тому
Nice. In Spain we call it peanut cream usually.
@MattyPraps1234
@MattyPraps1234 Рік тому
Yeah ive noticed that on the jars (i live in the netherlands but dont speak dutch) and found it kinda weird lol!
@avenged-khaos
@avenged-khaos Рік тому
they couldn't have called it peanut spread?
@bobbun9630
@bobbun9630 Рік тому
@@avenged-khaos In keeping with this video, I suggest "processed peanut spread product".
@MZachary21
@MZachary21 Рік тому
It's kind of a nitpick, but at 4 minutes when you discuss the earliest versions of canning, it's important that the bottle actually be filled fully with a liquid (water, stock, etc) that surrounds the "dry" food. The anaerobic environment provided by the liquid is key in preventing the food from spoiling. It's the same reasons why cans of beans and other vegetables are filled with a liquid. technically we can now can things in a vacuum and eliminate the need for the liquid, but thats a very recent development that Napoleon would not have had.
@ruroruro
@ruroruro Рік тому
adam ragusea gang
@TMinusRecords
@TMinusRecords Рік тому
Why wouldn't air work, surely the bacteria are killed in the air too?
@obsoquasi
@obsoquasi Рік тому
maybe because air is a terrible heat conductor
@Shaun.Stephens
@Shaun.Stephens Рік тому
@@TMinusRecords Because it contains free oxygen and oxidation is the main type of spoilage that occurs.
@transcendtient
@transcendtient Рік тому
This is untrue. Source: my mom has a wall of preserved canned meat, whole potatoes, and other vegetables in no liquid. Dry canning is a perfectly legitimate preservation technique that is frowned upon as a CYA measure by companies like Ball that make jars and have a vested interest in keeping inexperienced cooks from making themselves sick. Properly preparing your food and using it in a timely manner will keep off flavors and bacteria from making you sick.
@GameFuMaster
@GameFuMaster Рік тому
6:35 harambe, never forget
@arenomusic
@arenomusic Рік тому
It was not meant to happen. This timeline has diverged and will be deleted.
@stickyfox
@stickyfox Рік тому
I was in Subway behind a woman and her daughter ordering sandwiches, and she asked the kid "do you want Swiss or American?" Her answer was a loud and emphatic "YELLOW!"
@joshuaurbany6468
@joshuaurbany6468 Рік тому
As someone in the Army, I get very pissed if I don't have my cheese spread in my ration. I can't imagine warring my way across Europe without any cheese.
@JanBadertscher
@JanBadertscher Рік тому
The european locals would provide you with awesome cheese though. No need for the highly processed canned cheese rations.
@kampfbazille
@kampfbazille Рік тому
well it isnt chheese as we just learned and we have really good actuall chees here in europe
@NotoriousTim
@NotoriousTim Рік тому
@@kampfbazille Actual cheese is nice and all, but there's something about that processed cheese spread that is unique. Call me a simpleton but I've always loved American cheese and cheese whiz.
@wasd____
@wasd____ Рік тому
If you were warring across Europe, I don't think you'd have too much trouble finding cheese. It's hard to name any place in Europe that doesn't have several of its own styles of mind-blowingly good cheeses.
@annasolovyeva1013
@annasolovyeva1013 Рік тому
@@wasd____ eastern Europe. Many places don't.
@mannbat
@mannbat Рік тому
As an Australian I love the iron-ore price collapse joke. Brillant! Bega (who make the apocalypse-ready canned cheese in the video) is a very famous producer of milk products here. Ironically they got caught up in a lawsuit with Kraft over peanut butter of all things.
@ausaskar
@ausaskar Рік тому
If you're from WA, you would also recognize the Harvey Fresh bottle of milk he decided to use on a graphic for some reason. I live 20 minutes from Harvey.
@westernfrontproductions
@westernfrontproductions Рік тому
@@ausaskar James is from WA (as am I) so that would be the reason. Check out his earlier videos - they're all great - before he headed to the states, there are plenty of WA locations featured.
@altersami9660
@altersami9660 Рік тому
When was that in the video?
@graham1034
@graham1034 Рік тому
As a Canadian, I laugh at your iron ore dependence. *nervously checks oil prices*
@LordPhobos6502
@LordPhobos6502 Рік тому
What was wrong with the peanut butter? Did it have less than 51% peanuts?
@hanyougod
@hanyougod 3 місяці тому
American Singles, the individually wrapped slices, isn't cheese. "Deluxe American" IS cheese. The first is oil based, the second, milk based. That said, the first type is actually useful in the kitchen as a medium to blend multiple other types of real cheese into a smooth homogeneous mixture used in things like a homemade mac'n'cheese.
@NotKimiRaikkonen
@NotKimiRaikkonen Рік тому
As someone with a masters in dairy science, good job. This video makes me very excited and you got everything right.
@Entertainment-fi5tm
@Entertainment-fi5tm 3 місяці тому
I'm aware the comment is over a year old but curiosity will not let me by without asking and hoping for a response to: How/why did you do a masters in dairy science and what sort of career has that led to
@NotKimiRaikkonen
@NotKimiRaikkonen 3 місяці тому
@@Entertainment-fi5tm I grew up on a diary farm in Wisconsin, got a BS in Food Science from UW-Madison and then my masters from there as well and currently work in quality control for companies making ice cream, cheese, etc. It's also given me the ability to travel and work as a consultant in other countries that are expanding their dairy industries, like Brazil.
@Entertainment-fi5tm
@Entertainment-fi5tm 3 місяці тому
@@NotKimiRaikkonen Well I didn't expect an answer and I certainly didn't expect one within 30 minutes. Thanks for the response. That certainly sounds like an interesting career and I envy your being able to travel.
@Thomas-sr2oq
@Thomas-sr2oq Рік тому
gotta say, this is probably the cleanest and most well flowing video you've ever done! your hard work is being noticed and I hope you continue growing, good job!
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier Рік тому
Wow, thank you!
@dkaloger5720
@dkaloger5720 Рік тому
+1 ,I came here after the tomscott crossover and every video is getting better and better
@joanbennettnyc
@joanbennettnyc Рік тому
Totally agree with Thomas. SO well done, James
@ThePixel1983
@ThePixel1983 Рік тому
I find the speaking style interesting. Maybe I noticed it because it is slightly Attenborough and you're "slightly" younger. 😉 I think it's going to be easy to get used to. Good work!
@BazilRat
@BazilRat Рік тому
@@dkaloger5720 Same!
@hugmynutus
@hugmynutus Рік тому
Minor point: Those farms in/around point reyes are super controversial as they're on federal land. The farmer's lease expired in 1990, but no gov body has evicted them. They've nearly driven the elk species that lives in the area extinct. Currently there is only ~200 Elk left, and ranchers are campaigning to cull the southern herd leaving only ~60.
@cnr3188
@cnr3188 Рік тому
James I used to go to school with you at Hale in Perth, so cool to see what you’ve been doing with this channel. Good luck in the future.
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier Рік тому
Thanks! Yup, come a long was since "BHD Productions". Hope you've been doing well!
@snoozyboio
@snoozyboio Рік тому
I don't think there's any reason to bastardize or criminalize the consumption of process cheese. I think, for the most part, knowing what goes into your body is more important than just being fearful of it because someone a long time ago told you they had heard something from someone who knew a guy who said something. I remember watching an Adam Ragusea video, who had a dilemma. He needed to make a cheese sauce from a bunch of different cheeses, but they all had their own melting points and melting viability. To solve this, he threw a slice of kraft american cheese (the "process cheese product" stuff) into the pot, and let the sodium citrate do all the work. An american philly cheesesteak wouldn't taste the same with a bunch of gorgonzola and feta on it, even though those cheeses are more authentically cheese than the process cheese product, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to make it healthier for better consumption in the long run. I, for one, like cheddar on mine, but that's beyond the point. I think there's more to say about the overconsumption of these things nowadays, rather than the creation of them in the first place. A lot of canned and packaged food that americans consume today have their roots in convenience for soldiers going to war (that's where you get m&m's, especially the peanut ones), and even now it's become more sustainable to purchase these because they're more readily available than the fancy frou-frou foods, and cheaper to purchase. Sometimes, it's a choice between going hungry or eating something, even if it's not the most nutritionally dense. Even fresh produce is becoming more expensive to purchase, pushing people to consume, and over-consume, products made by companies who care more about lining their pockets and turning a profit more than anything else. More or less, I just hope people become more knowledgeable about producing their own food, and putting some authority back in the hands of the consumer, instead of us literally eating ourselves to death because we simply did not know better.
@2GoatsInATrenchCoat
@2GoatsInATrenchCoat 3 місяці тому
just wanna say that the original Philly cheesesteak cheese was provolone, and I still can't stomach that cheese whiz swill that's getting pushed now.
@Eevee860
@Eevee860 3 місяці тому
When every restaurant scams us with this garbage fake cheese we have every right to say it should be illegal
@ExtraThiccc
@ExtraThiccc 3 місяці тому
Oh no no no, dont let the uppity europeans hear you say that! Unless youre eating raw vegan everything its unhealthy, too processed, and not even food!
@posysajrazdwatrzy
@posysajrazdwatrzy Рік тому
I'm happy to know whenever Tom Scott retires, you'll fill in that gap and surpass him, in time. You've grown so much. Thank you for continuing your work and I genuinely hope you'll keep doing this.
@T3sl4
@T3sl4 Рік тому
Who cares about when he retires, when is collabs? :D ...I wonder how that would work. To greatly enhance the material I mean. The speaking-to-camera information bit is well done by both, and would only be improved marginally with a back-and-forth or interview format. Synergy requires playing off each other. Not sure exactly what topics and formats would supply that, but I'm ready for if and when it happens. :)
@jonathanodude6660
@jonathanodude6660 Рік тому
@@T3sl4 probably an argument where they take different stances to explore the depth of the subject matter, rather than just conveying information.
@fariesz6786
@fariesz6786 4 місяці тому
i mean, Tom announced the (sort of) retirement of his main channel at least, so.. yeah
@jacewhite8540
@jacewhite8540 4 місяці тому
He just rode into the sunset, hopefully your prediction comes true!
@jesusramirezromo2037
@jesusramirezromo2037 4 місяці тому
Well aged...
@user-yv6xw7ns3o
@user-yv6xw7ns3o 4 місяці тому
Here is a note of genuine appreciation of your implementation of the classic, subtle act of slowly approaching the camera in an outdoor location while talking about a thing to a video camera.
@JAzzWoods-ik4vv
@JAzzWoods-ik4vv Рік тому
Just found your channel. It feels like a really well produced BBC doc You gained a subscriber!
@1Cr0w
@1Cr0w Рік тому
It's also worth noting that Gorgonzola is a protected geographical indication in the EU and a lot of other territories, not only having to contain certain compounds, but also having to come from around *Gorgonzola* in Italy.
@ImperatorSomnium
@ImperatorSomnium 4 місяці тому
Like all types of cheese, produced in the EU....
@davec8385
@davec8385 Рік тому
Great video! Reminds me how some ice-cream has been rebranded as frozen desert due to the percentage of fat content and other things. Even Dairy Queen fast food ice-cream doesn't meet this requirement so they can't call it ice-cream in the branding.
@NegativeReferral
@NegativeReferral Рік тому
Ironically, "frozen dairy dessert" often is healthier than legal ice cream due to the lower fat content.
@kaydenl6836
@kaydenl6836 Рік тому
@@NegativeReferral fat, provided it is not rancid, polyunsaturated fat, is good for you. Those frozen dairy deserts almost always replace healthy milk fat with sugar.
@jonathanodude6660
@jonathanodude6660 Рік тому
@@kaydenl6836 rancid fats are caused by oxidation, ie spoilt, and polyunsaturated fats are the good ones. trans fats are the ones that are toxic, rancid or not. milk fats are predominately saturated though, which is the worst type of naturally occuring common fat.
@Anhonime
@Anhonime Рік тому
@@kaydenl6836 lol, milk fat is definitely not healthy and polyunsaturated fats are good for you even sugar is better for you than the saturated fat in milk
@X4Alpha4X
@X4Alpha4X Рік тому
@@NegativeReferral lower fat content does not mean healthier. per gram, sugar is so much worse.
@erkstz
@erkstz 4 місяці тому
Dude you are a natural storyteller. It's so easy to listen to you and I love the different backdrops. Good video
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican Рік тому
Did you hear about the cheese factory that exploded? All that was left was _de-Brie._ Much inventory was lost, it caused a _sharp_ increase in prices. The insurance company had to fork over a lot of _Cheddar._ At first, investigators didn't know Jack but with some _Gouda_ detective work, they traced the perpetrator to _Philadelphia._ They knew a Swiss had something to do with it. Their alibi was full of _holes._ I know this is cheesy, but I thought this was grate Who knew a video about cheese and the truth about American cheese could be so captivating?
@_ernst
@_ernst Рік тому
The part, where they put big volumes of corn starche into the "cheese" to reduce production costs is unfortunately missing.
@idkbruh173
@idkbruh173 Рік тому
Wait did they actually?
@blazertundra
@blazertundra Рік тому
Also hydrogenated vegetable oil. When my family was going through some tight financial times, they bought the absolute cheapest of everything. The "cheese" had that stuff as the #1 ingredient, with milk protein a little bit further down, and no whole dairy product in the list. Even as a kid, I opted to go without "cheese" on my sandwiches. At least Kraft uses real milk.
@oldasyouromens
@oldasyouromens Рік тому
but they don't put cornstarch in. at least not decent American cheese slice you get in the US. The non-Kraft brands have more cheddar cheese in them, often mixed with Muenster or another white cheese, bound with casein and sodium citrate, and containing no vegetable oil. veg oil is a Kraft-only addition, which isn't real cheese slice - it is processed cheese slice product. Do they put cornstarch in the cheese slice in Europe?
@sistermary1107
@sistermary1107 Рік тому
Fun facts. Keeping cheese good for longer also led to the invention of the wheels with a waxed rind. Gouda is also only a protected way of making cheese, they failed to make it also protected as something regional. Who you can get Gouda style cheese as long as it appears to the same cheese making process as cheese made in Gouda. There's plenty of other Dutch cheese that are all different, with some names very protected that only a few farms still make those cheeses.
@waveril5167
@waveril5167 Рік тому
in Switzerland too
@mickeyrube6623
@mickeyrube6623 Рік тому
No matter to me. I hate Gouda. It's no Gouda. Sorry.
@sistermary1107
@sistermary1107 Рік тому
@@mickeyrube6623 thanks for your input
@mickeyrube6623
@mickeyrube6623 Рік тому
@@sistermary1107 No problem. I've always preferred cheddar. Cheddar is Beddar.
@crf80fdarkdays
@crf80fdarkdays Рік тому
@@mickeyrube6623 yyyyy
@m.a.6478
@m.a.6478 Рік тому
The trick with adding butter is also a Swiss invention I believe. The problem was back in the beginning of the 20th century there was no sensible way to export cheese from Switzerland accross the atlantic ocean without going bad. Until recently there was the company "Gerber" producing cheese products in Thun (they started doing this in 1911), I visited the factory twenty years ago when they still were in full production. The butter gave the cheese a more soft texture compared to the molten and solidified product. As a side effect the cheese product could be spread on bread. I too love "real" cheese and think a life without it would be very sad, but this industrial cheese product is also a kind of guilty pleasure.
@yotetoob
@yotetoob Рік тому
I was not expecting this to be interesting, but you did it! Very clear explanations and some interesting history throw in, great stuff mate 👍
@joanbennettnyc
@joanbennettnyc Рік тому
James... you have outdone yourself with this piece. Congratulations, sir.
@JohnnyBRad
@JohnnyBRad Рік тому
Cheesus Christ! What a brielliantly krafted video! Shame we won't be able to make american cheese grate again after watching, and frankly I'm getting kinda feta up with these puns, but I think it's swissful thinking that I'll ever stop. Wonderful video as always! Have a mozzarhella good day!
@AkiSan0
@AkiSan0 Рік тому
i now need to listen closely if the "krafted" was a pun towards kraft foods... edit: good one :D
@thebestcentaur
@thebestcentaur Рік тому
You must be feeling gouda 'bout yourself, huh?
@aaronnekrin5150
@aaronnekrin5150 Рік тому
your the Chad we all needed nick haddad
@potatofarmer_116
@potatofarmer_116 Рік тому
@@AkiSan0 I think it was a pun towards James Kraft who was mentioned in this video
@ysko2961
@ysko2961 Рік тому
@@potatofarmer_116 He created kraft foods..
@Skrumpilicious
@Skrumpilicious Рік тому
Seems like a lot of work was put into this video and im subbin to you because of it, keep up the good work
@Netsuko
@Netsuko 4 місяці тому
I just found your channel through this video. This is SUPERB educational content. Well done!
@samkomododragon782
@samkomododragon782 Рік тому
Found this video on my front page; I had never heard of you before but I found this video incredibly well-made and informative. As a cheese enthusiast, I very much enjoyed it :D
@DenisRyan
@DenisRyan Рік тому
Fascinating video! In Ireland, a recent legal ruling means Subway can no longer say they use "bread" because their dough contains too much sugar. And just this weekend, I was picking up ice cream to go with some home baked desserts and thought to grab a cheaper ice cream to save a few pennies, feeling the focus should be on the homemade goods anyway. I noticed one carton was labelled "iced milk" and rethought my priorities, and spent a little more to get actual ice cream...
@0xsergy
@0xsergy Рік тому
Iced milk sounds low sugar.
@qwertyTRiG
@qwertyTRiG Рік тому
Interestingly, though, Subway's bread does indeed count as bread for food purposes, just not for tax purposes.
@DenisRyan
@DenisRyan Рік тому
@@0xsergy The listing of "sugar, dextrose and glucose" in the ingredients suggests otherwise!
@ragnkja
@ragnkja Рік тому
@@DenisRyan Dextrose _and_ glucose? All glucose produced by earthly life forms is dextrose.
@DenisRyan
@DenisRyan Рік тому
@@ragnkja Yup. I'm aware. One of those two were listed as "dehydrated" or something. It.was all shenanigans. I chose not to try it out.
@Joaquin__
@Joaquin__ Рік тому
been watching since around 20k and it's gotten higher quality over time keep up the good work!
@AnkerPeet
@AnkerPeet Рік тому
Just to add some perspective from an American, in America, we too call this kind of cheese "American cheese". And I think most Americans understand this product to not be real cheese. In fact some of them aren't even labeled as "cheese". For example if you look at Kraft Singles, they are labeled as "American", and in small print below "pasteurized prepared cheese product" which basically just means "there's some cheese in here somewhere". For most things we use real cheese. It seems most of the time this kind of cheese is used on sandwiches, especially at fast food places like McDonalds.
@smooooth_
@smooooth_ Рік тому
Its a really bad name PR wise, because I think people see "American cheese" and think that's synonymous with "cheese in America"
@an0970
@an0970 Рік тому
@@smooooth_ or you know actual American cheese made in a deli.
@theghostking-7951
@theghostking-7951 3 місяці тому
​@@an0970what deli makes their own american cheese?
@Kodaiva
@Kodaiva 3 місяці тому
it is real cheese. all cheese is processed
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 3 місяці тому
I'm an American and I never buy "American cheese" if I have another option...
@taiidaniblues7792
@taiidaniblues7792 Рік тому
Awesome video! I was just wondering why I keep buying "cheese product" in the deli section. I grew up eating American cheese, and never really thought about what it was. Thanks for finally explaining what I've been shoveling into my face all these years. Swiss cheese is still best cheese.
@growskull
@growskull Рік тому
cool pfp
@Eralen00
@Eralen00 Рік тому
Greetings fellow lungsman
@castform57
@castform57 Рік тому
Then you have to nitpick what swiss cheese? Switzerland has like over 500 different varieties of cheese, which would all be called "swiss cheese".
@selectionn
@selectionn Рік тому
Swiss cheese fans 🤢
@JoelDZ
@JoelDZ Рік тому
@@castform57 "Swiss cheese" is an American variation on Emmentaler
@Malaphor
@Malaphor Рік тому
Id be surprised if anyone who's eaten a Kraft single by itself, actually thought it was cheese.
@manusiabumi7673
@manusiabumi7673 Рік тому
I have, when i was young and stupid, and didn't know any better
@MrJeffcoley1
@MrJeffcoley1 Рік тому
When I was a kid I hated American cheese. I didn’t know until I was an adult that what I hated isn’t cheese at all - it’s that imitation cheese food product. Real American cheese is actually quite good and totally worth the extra money.
@petevenuti7355
@petevenuti7355 Рік тому
Fine, be surprised then.
@red1522
@red1522 Рік тому
I grew up not in America and for the longest of time I have never seen a real block of cheese I have always thought American cheese was in fact cheese(ie taste like what cheese is supposed to) and for the longest time I was confused as to why anyone would like that weird tasting food
@somerandomname3124
@somerandomname3124 Рік тому
I thought it was edible plastic as a child.
@brycedevoe9814
@brycedevoe9814 Рік тому
I really liked the cat drinking milk at 8:22. :)
@sohailsayeed9361
@sohailsayeed9361 Рік тому
Bro, this was phenomenal quality. Thanks for uploading!
@aquariiiYT
@aquariiiYT Рік тому
Never seen your stuff. Really impressed with the quality and professionalism. Great video. Instant Sub!
@SgtCarter69
@SgtCarter69 Рік тому
Did anyone else see at 06:50 the graph, it's written: California replaced by cheese. haha
@czebosak
@czebosak Рік тому
So high quality and no one wasting my time with mid-video ads.
@staviq
@staviq Рік тому
8:20 Cats are inherently lactose intolerant, do not feed you cat milk. Yes, they might seem to enjoy it, because it does taste good, but it does not mean it's good for them and their health. Milk is not natural for cats, as evolutionary they have no way of obtaining it. Similarly cellulose, aka wood or plant fibers, is basically a type of sugar, but humans cannot digest it because we lack proper enzymes to break it down. Which does not mean it's inedible, and funny enough we now get back to milk, because it so happens that cows do digest cellulose.
@laz272727
@laz272727 9 днів тому
>as evolutionary they have no way of obtaining it. Other than, you know, being mammals.
@fredericmazoit1441
@fredericmazoit1441 Рік тому
As a French guy, I looooove cheese. And 15 minutes ago, I thought that US "Cheese" was a kind of recycled truck tires processed just to be edible (kidding but you got the idea). I now want to try real American cheese. Nice job !
@unvergebeneid
@unvergebeneid Рік тому
At least they're nice melty truck tires that will get us through the Thunderdome ;D
@joser9237
@joser9237 Рік тому
The Kraft style "cheese product" is pretty nasty ngl. There are a few American "cheeses" that actually do taste decently. My only problem really is that when you melt it really does turn into a goopy mass with hardly any cheesy taste. Some people like this, I certainly do not.
@1d10tcannotmakeusername
@1d10tcannotmakeusername Рік тому
@@joser9237 The worst of them is velveeta.
@jac6548
@jac6548 Рік тому
@@joser9237 You take that back. Cheese flavored product is the superior cheese to use in grilled cheeses, better than any real cheese
@salvatronprime9882
@salvatronprime9882 Рік тому
American cheese straight off the block from a deli is pretty good. The plastic wrapped single sliced stuff is trash. It's like comparing dog food to prime beef.
@ArcherIndustries
@ArcherIndustries Рік тому
I appreciated you labeling Harambe on the timeline. Very important event that needs to be more recognized as reality changing.
@alexavaneysan2935
@alexavaneysan2935 Рік тому
You put so much work into this video, thank you very much
@fricky172
@fricky172 3 місяці тому
Fascinating! Going to check out the channel, I hope it's more interesting educational content!
@lewismassie
@lewismassie Рік тому
"With no scientific understanding, just 14 years of trying stuff out" that qualifies as far as I'm concerned lol (I presume you meant 'no formal scientific education') Also making the original American Cheese from the original patent sounds like an interesting kitchen experiment, might have to give that a try. I knew a little bit about the legality of cheese already but nowhere near as much as you covered here. The other cheese thing I know is that a lot of old cheese varieties in the UK were forgotten over WW2 rationing, and were only rediscovered when dairylea made it over from the US, which prompted people to go looking for other cheeses to make
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier Рік тому
Yup! "14 years of trying stuff out" is basically the definition of science. However he only experimented with what would happen, not why it happened (and fair enough, germ theory wouldn't be a thing for decades). Didn't know about the UK cheese stuff, but Switzerland had something similar where they basically forgot everything except three cheeses
@Ichigoeki
@Ichigoeki Рік тому
A fake bastardization of a product so bad that the customers started digging up history books to get the real thing again? I mean if it made the product known, then sure. I just don't believe in the adage that there's no such thing as bad press. Also I woulda probably guessed that it came from the US even just from the rest of your explanation. Guess that's part of the national fame too. 😁
@blindleader42
@blindleader42 Рік тому
@@AtomicFrontier A famous scientist once said: “The Only Difference Between Screwing Around and Science Is Writing It Down” OK. It wasn't a famous scientist, but a ballistics expert consulting on the TV show Mythbusters. But it has the ring of truth.
@greggv8
@greggv8 Рік тому
@@AtomicFrontier how about a video on what makes the bubbles in Swiss cheese and how it took so long to discover it?
@Suiseisexy
@Suiseisexy Рік тому
@@greggv8 The bubbles are trapped carbon dioxide formed by the cellular processes of the bacteria maturing the cheese, in this case "swiss" cheese is generally cheap domestic Emmental, which officially appears around the 11th century. However, descriptions of similar cheese appear in Roman accounts, the earliest of which is around the year 160 and is about an official who got sick from eating too much of it, the account refers to it as "alpine cheese" and the circumstances of the story indicate it was capable of being transported a few hundred miles without spoiling. Alpine cheese was probably invented when humans began to experiment with additional cooking as a step in the process, probably to extend it's shelf-life and transportability. Essentially an earlier version of the glass jar experiment described in the video and for similar reasons. As for the holes themselves they were viewed as a fault, effectively just laziness, for most of the cheese's history until at some point people came to associate them with a mature cheese with larger holes meaning more gas had collected and the cheese was older/more valuable. They're easily removed but left there deliberately by tradition, but the emergence of this tradition itself unclear but the size of the holes generally corresponds to the strength of the flavor. I would love to know when/where this tradition/association with flavor got built up but didn't find anything, I'm not sure anyone knows, though I'd love to be wrong.
@pcfreak1992
@pcfreak1992 Рік тому
I am always amazed at how well you integrate graphics into the video by masking yourself out of the frame, creating the illusion that it's in the background :D
@Lotjeloveslaika
@Lotjeloveslaika Рік тому
Oh my god, you just made a complete revelation to me! I have always hated wine since the first time I got to taste it at 16 years old, and now that I'm 26 I still really strongly dislike every single kind of wine, even the really sweet types of wine that everyone seems to like who don't seem to like 'standard' wines. But I've always also disliked fondue cheese, when I really enjoy other melted cheeses, and everyone always told me it just tastes like cheese, why don't you like it? But now I realize it has that classic wine taste to it, and that's why I never liked it! 🤣
@bigbeefscorcho
@bigbeefscorcho Рік тому
I just found this channel and I am a BIG fan already :)
@cleolilium1180
@cleolilium1180 Рік тому
I've always known the deli-style american cheese is a wildly different product than singles and now I know why! You really can't judge the former by the latter. I grew up on deli-style american cheese and its great as a cheese for casual applications like sandwiches and sauces you want thick and smooth and clingy. I wouldn't put it on a fancy cheese board, but it's still delicious! Singles on the other hand I won't touch with a 10-foot pole. Not to say I judge anyone else for liking them, I just don't like them myself!
@sonicboy678
@sonicboy678 Рік тому
If there's one thing Singles are good for, it's pairing with grape jelly.
@mikeg8276
@mikeg8276 Рік тому
@@sonicboy678 I’m calling the police
@froggy7545
@froggy7545 Рік тому
Very interesting mini documentary. Well presented. This kid has a bright future in this sort of thing
@jarl_fontan
@jarl_fontan 4 місяці тому
thank you for making this. I love cheese and I sometimes make my own. this video made me appreciate and crave cheese just a bit more
@prezzie1
@prezzie1 Рік тому
I love the play on the name captain sail out. Being changed from captain sell out how did the Squarespace not pick up on that😂 great video dude
@5050Odds
@5050Odds Рік тому
Amazing graph of cheese consumption. Most academics don't include the Harambe timeline divergence.
@ob5599
@ob5599 Рік тому
Glad someone else noticed the Harambe on the graph lol
@Simple_City
@Simple_City Рік тому
I always knew the Kraft Deli Deluxe slices tasted better than other American cheese, but I never knew why until the very end of this video!
@eloquenthillbilly
@eloquenthillbilly Рік тому
Clicked because I knew that American "cheese" wasn't cheese, but didn't know it was barely American. Subbed because you had the common decency to put the sponsor roll at the end.
@Sunnywastakentoo
@Sunnywastakentoo Рік тому
My favorite part is when the company gets to violate the law with no actual backlash or punishment.
@Sazoji
@Sazoji Рік тому
I'd still call it cheese, or a cheese/milk product: -the federal definitions for cheese are all influenced by a lobby considering how specific they've been made -cream cheese counts as cheese, but it's not using rennet and still has a high whey, it's more like yogurt -american cheese still has real cheese in it and the differing thing from it is the existence of milk protein concentrate since it's easier to get than traditional rennet+salt+time methods
@lauroralei
@lauroralei Рік тому
That little bit of sass you threw at Australia has me in stiches
@RBslowman
@RBslowman 3 місяці тому
Here in Wisconsin, possession of Kraft Singles is punishable by death
@ika32
@ika32 Рік тому
The only problem I have with American cheese is at 8:45 where it seems as if every single slice is covered in plastic, and American cheese always comes that way. I guess it just makes it more American.
@nunyabusiness9433
@nunyabusiness9433 Рік тому
It doesn't always come like that. Some use the plastic wrap, some use wax paper slips as dividers, and some just slap em in the package and let you fumble for the mushed together slit between slices.
@TatharNuar
@TatharNuar Рік тому
@@nunyabusiness9433 I've only ever seen the "pasteurized process american cheese" variety offered in that last form. It sticks together very easily.
@JSDudeca
@JSDudeca Рік тому
Funny we don't call it American cheese in Canada. We call it processed cheese. That was definitely a good sail out.
@kevinf8439
@kevinf8439 Рік тому
Here in England we call it colonial cheese.
@Weromano
@Weromano Рік тому
Great Video, always wondered what those yellow sheets of rubber actually are! By the way brown Bananas are very much edible, i eat them all the time, no danger of food poisoning here! Have a good one!
@jontee4free
@jontee4free Рік тому
I never knew I needed to know all of this stuff about cheese! -thanks
@webx135
@webx135 3 місяці тому
Honestly I never had a "hate" for "American Cheese Product". You just have to know what it is and what it's useful for. Something like Kraft Singles usually has emulsifiers to prevent separation. But often, this is actually in excess. And this can be useful. When I make a cheese dish. Perhaps something like a 5-cheese mac and cheese or something, I'll use 5 different cheeses, and then add some slices of this. It's sort of an easy way to help get the other cheeses to blend together. And I feel like that was somewhat the point or the appeal. Melted cheese dishes were historically quite a pain to make because of the manual blending process and needing to add some sort of emulsification. This sort of product essentially industrializes the blending and emulsification process. So I don't mind it for what it is. It just isn't its own type of cheese.
@DraconianEmpath
@DraconianEmpath Рік тому
sample webpage during the ad read including an article titled "how to run with scissors" I love it when companies are open to creative adaptation of their sponsorships. nicely done! :)
@nefariousyawn
@nefariousyawn Рік тому
Your puns are so good, I even watched Captain Sailout's ad read.
@nefariousyawn
@nefariousyawn Рік тому
I know I was supposed to say "Gouda," but I failed.
@An.Unsought.Thought
@An.Unsought.Thought 3 місяці тому
American Cheese absolutely is cheese. They literally use cheddar cheese as a main ingredient. They just dilute the cheese with water and binding ingredients during the boiling/melting process that allow it to keep a very malleable and easy to melt cheese derived product after it cools off..
@GameRetro
@GameRetro Рік тому
Is it weird I enjoyed the sponsored spot more than the whole cheese video (which don’t get me wrong I enjoyed immensely)? Great job!!!
@ryansamarakoon8268
@ryansamarakoon8268 Рік тому
So awesome to see such good talent in the video education space. As UKposts grows and other creators retire I hope to still see you and your amazing content around
@unvergebeneid
@unvergebeneid Рік тому
I mean, Kraft didn't remove the name "cheese" from their branding. Just the term "food." So maybe instead of saying it's not cheese, it's more accurate to say it's not food?
@PiousMoltar
@PiousMoltar Рік тому
Yeah, and honestly, "pasteurized process cheese food" doesn't exactly sound appetizing. I think if I made that product, and it did meet the requirements to call it that, I still wouldn't put it on the packaging. I'd just put something vague like "processed cheesy slices". Sounds more appetizing even if it's not clear whether it's over 50% cheese or not.
@EyMannMachHin
@EyMannMachHin Рік тому
IANAL, but it still is a product made with cheese, so I won't actually feel cheated.
@salvatronprime9882
@salvatronprime9882 Рік тому
They really shouldn't be able to use the word cheese at all. It should be "pasteurized dairy-based product with cheese inspired flavorings" or something like that. Or they should be forced to do what other companies do and call it "cheez".
@AnglosArentHuman
@AnglosArentHuman Рік тому
@@salvatronprime9882 It might be less than 50% "cheese cheese" but it's still a rather large percentage. If you want to be nitpicky then something along the lines of "partially-cheese-based pausterised dairy product" would be a more honest tag. Realistically, the average consumer doesn't give a shit about the different legally protected terms, nor do they know the differences between them. So the semantics of the label are unimportant. Even if you give people extremely detailed tags, most of them won't know what anything means. That's why several countries are opting to add mandatory tags as simple as "high sugar content" or "gluten-free": This is the level of gastronomic information the average consumer can understand.
@darknaio60
@darknaio60 Рік тому
Surprised so few people are giving you props for including the Hyperreality Collapse that took place with Harambe. Not even many physicists are ready to recognize the ATD (alternate timeline divergence) where Harambe was still alive and covid never happened (also cheese continued to improve in that timeline, no correlation).
@stebansan
@stebansan 3 місяці тому
i saw it!
@tarae85
@tarae85 Місяць тому
What?? Totally lost but so curious why this keeps coming up…. Especially in relation to a cheese mini-documentary.
@solokalnesaltam3015
@solokalnesaltam3015 Рік тому
Literally spit out laughing at the "Captain Sail-Out" joke
@troyclayton
@troyclayton Рік тому
1:11 Rennet is the puréed baby cow stomach, the enzyme that does the work is rennin (chymosin). The difference is important to vegetarians (lacto, obviously). We tend to read ingredients and buy non-rennet cheeses. We have no aversion to the glory of the mother's teat, just to eating aborted cow fetus/infant stomachs. It should be noted that the non-rennet rennin (just called enzymes on the label) is produced from genetically engineered bacteria and/or yeast. So, if you're a lacto-vegetarian with issues around genetic engineering- don't eat cheese unless it's acid curdled (I use lemon juice to make fresh curds because it's easy at home). You won't find many commercial producers doing that.
@punkdigerati
@punkdigerati Рік тому
Not all vegetarians have the same reasons for doing so.
@troyclayton
@troyclayton Рік тому
@@punkdigerati Cool. Educate me.
@punkdigerati
@punkdigerati Рік тому
@@troyclayton there are environmental vegetarians whose primary goal is the reduction of the excess global warming potential of meat production. The calves will actually even have less impact than the dairy cows themselves.
@troyclayton
@troyclayton Рік тому
@@punkdigerati I became an environmental vegetarian in 1990. It had nothing to do with animal rights or what I liked to eat. I hoped to preserve the planet for those who came after me. Rennet is only cheap because of the disgusting amount of cows people eat, disgusting because many people starve as resources are used to produce higher value products for 1st world nations instead of feeding the hungry.
@DaimyoD0
@DaimyoD0 Рік тому
TIL
@obeyjuancannoli7120
@obeyjuancannoli7120 Рік тому
Just spent two hours in my food science class trying to make American cheese. For whatever reason, the sodium citrate just refused to emulsify it, leaving me stirring a kilogram of melted cheddar in its oil for what felt like forever. Just my luck this video was recommended to me while I'm trying to forget the smell of melted cheddar.
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier Рік тому
Haha, I'm really sorry! Bet yours tasted better than mine though. I found grating the cheese and dissolving the citrate in water helped. Best of luck with the rest of the course!
@obeyjuancannoli7120
@obeyjuancannoli7120 Рік тому
@@AtomicFrontier We actually tried that but it turned out that the sodium citrate wouldn’t fully dissolve in the water and formed clumps of salt that could only dissolve in the cheese after using a stand mixer. Professor said the measurements from the literature just wouldn’t make it work saying “I’d write a note to the author but he’s already dead so we’ll try it again another time” lol it is a very fun and fascinating course.
@userNULL
@userNULL 2 місяці тому
TLDR: It IS cheese, just diluted with water and emulsifying agents
@travisreid9530
@travisreid9530 Рік тому
Captain Sail-Out. Love the pun. Interesting and informative video, subscribed for more.
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier Рік тому
Thanks! Also pretty sure you were subscriber number 190,000. Congrats!
@ThunderTurtle7
@ThunderTurtle7 Рік тому
Good to know the Kraft Deli Deluxe I bought was one of the good ones
@jakefrommalibu
@jakefrommalibu Рік тому
The huge “ice cream” selection in my American supermarket is filled with products that aren’t actually labeled as ice cream. It’s the result of the same decision making that caused Kraft to stop calling their products cheese.
@johnseppethe2nd2
@johnseppethe2nd2 Рік тому
That isn't special. The UK has that fake ice cream too
@oryxthemad
@oryxthemad Рік тому
The lack of music in the video reminds me of childhood educational shows like Reading Rainbow and Bill Nye. Very engaging, very interesting!
@boat5522
@boat5522 Рік тому
This was amazing and quite well put together, finally UKposts understands that i care about cheese.
@tressonkaru7410
@tressonkaru7410 4 місяці тому
It's still cheese. A lot of foods, unhealthy or otherwise, are processed. There's just many different ways to make cheese. Just like there's different ways to make bread.
@maximiliankegley-oyola928
@maximiliankegley-oyola928 Рік тому
Just found your channel from this video. Everything you make is so well done and really helps me to understand and gain an appreciation the concepts you talk about as well as science itself. Thank you :)
@StuartGelin
@StuartGelin 3 місяці тому
Having just discovered your channel, I want to thank you for filling the nerdy British edutainer sized hole left in my heart by Tom Scott leaving UKposts.
@mrbilal1987
@mrbilal1987 Рік тому
I discovered that place last year when I just randomly decided to drive a road in the Bay Area I hadn't been on before. I didn't go in, though.
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Рік тому
Napoleon: I receive bananas, you receive 12,000 francs Meanwhile the US to Latin America: *I receive bananas, you receive military dictatorship* It's true that Switzerland perfect their cheese. I can confirm as I used to live there, and it was where I was introduced to high-quality chocolate, cheese, and basketball where I watched Dennis Rodman on TV.
@arandomperson.
@arandomperson. Рік тому
Nice pfp
@MacGuffinExMachina
@MacGuffinExMachina 3 місяці тому
I usually don't like it, but it works well on grilled cheese and on burgers because it easily melts.
@michaellasfetto5810
@michaellasfetto5810 3 місяці тому
"Government Cheese" That's a pretty deep cut for someone with a non-American accent who was not born in the 1980s or earlier.
@riproar11
@riproar11 Рік тому
I like how a video discussing how processed cheese came into existence features a man rocking out with a flame-shooting guitar while riding on the hood of a death truck.
@JerGol
@JerGol Рік тому
One of your best! Several great chuckles in the opening minutes alone!
@_DeathDreams_
@_DeathDreams_ Рік тому
American cheese is cheese in the same sense that meatloaf is meat
@JNCressey
@JNCressey Рік тому
so, not meat-free and not cheese-free
@wiiztec
@wiiztec Рік тому
No american cheese is not cheese with eggs in it
@jwenting
@jwenting Рік тому
meatloaf contains meat, American cheese does not contain cheese (any longer). American cheese is cheese in the way fake meat is meat.
@isthisone
@isthisone Рік тому
@CaptainDuckman American cheese does contain cheese.(Still)
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse 4 місяці тому
One correction, not that anyone will see it, while not everything sold as American cheese is actually cheese, some things are. The local grocery chain that I get food at does in fact sell real American cheese, and if you ever have it you'll know that there's no substitute. That garbage that Kraft sells should probably be illegal for them to even label as cheese.
@danmuygallo
@danmuygallo 4 місяці тому
Cheese was traded and exported for hundreds of years, as far as we know. Samuel Pepys wrote in his diary that he buried a large an expensive parmesan in his garden to protect it from the great fire of London in the 17th century. It's preposterous to say that cheese slices sparked the trade of cheeses outside of the communities they were made, as well as being completely untrue.
@XenosInfinity
@XenosInfinity Рік тому
Fun fact: the phrase "laser-guided udder suckers" fits to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles theme. I don't know what to do with this information.
@blartversenwaldiii
@blartversenwaldiii Рік тому
the song clearly needs to be rewritten with the new words
@Ryder7223
@Ryder7223 3 місяці тому
American cheese is just watery diluted cheese, Nile Blue made a video where he made it.
@N24revision12
@N24revision12 Рік тому
Your ads are genuinely great 👍
@Leonardohummel
@Leonardohummel 3 місяці тому
damm you Nile for this rabbit hole
@Tattletale__
@Tattletale__ 3 місяці тому
Bahahaha
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