Oooooh, .. I can't wait for that ... I'm in giddy with anticipation. 😂 ... The wing suit scene was goofy as hell .. This movie is a turd.

@@Fiveash-Art Youre just another 12 Year old ADHD Kid who cant see the Art in this Movie 😌 Go and watch your Transformers Movies

@@Fiveash-Art Brudda said "turd"

@@crusty4420 huh huh huh .. you said it Beavis... uh huh uh huh .. turd 🤘🏻

@@Fiveash-Art he’s saying you said it without irony and not quoting someone you have intermediate school level trolling ability

I absolutely loved that too! I wouldn't say he never actually intended to use it. I assume he tested it, but in remote places where there weren't towering buildings to fly into. The test runs would be under controlled, ideal circumstances. This field use was in a completely uncontrolled circumstances, so the reality of the incredible danger of it would suddenly hit him as he reaches the edge of the building. What's so great to me about this interpretation is how it constantly shifts back and forth between Batman the grandiose persona, and Bruce Wayne in a ridiculous costume trying and failing to fully become that grandiose persona. It happens throughout the film. He stalls out the Batmobile right in the middle of its grand introduction, then bursts it through a fiery car crash to capture to the Penguin, and then reveals he doesn't know enough Spanish to understand the RIddler's riddle, earning the ironic moniker "world's greatest detective." This is a story about a man trying to be a superhero, trying to erase or deny the mortal, fallible, human part of himself that holds him back, and having it constantly rearing up and getting in his way. When he reaches that ledge and suddenly draws back in terror, you catch a glimpse of the real person beneath the fantasy persona he wears to protect himself from fear, pain, etc. It's only when he finds a way to integrate his humanity into the Batman persona that he finds what he's been searching for.

@@rottensquid Well put. That evolution is also clearly displayed in the three scenes of him entering the club. First as Batman, second as the man underneath, and last as both of them integrated into something greater.

@@robbanbobban2 Right, that's a really great observation. One initial "complaint" I had with my friend when we first saw the film was what a tank Batman is, that he rarely utilized stealth, that he just walked up to the enemy with reckless bravado. But I realize now that this was the point. In his self-righteousness, he was daring the world to destroy him. It's only when he reintegrates his two halves that he starts using stealth, utilizing the Batman persona rather than inhabiting it full-time, working smart, not hard, as it were.

Robban Bobban - If the wingsuit was something he never planned on using, why did he go to the bother of incorporating one into his suit?

Well they also made a big point in the movie to show that this is Year 2 for him. He's still very new to all this Batman stuff which I personally liked since it's not an origin story but it's also not him in his prime. Most likely in the next movie he's going to be very good at gliding.

Agreed. As much as I love the "grounded" Batman, what's omitted from this particular film is the near-supernatural effect Batman creates. He has this great costume, but he doesn't really use it to frighten people, or evoke the sort of vampiric monstrousness he occasionally summons up in the comics. I feel like there's a balance of groundedness and pulpy fiction with Batman, that no movie has ever achieved. No one seems able to take the premise seriously while also making it fun. The films have veered wildly from overly serious to cartoonishly absurd. And while they've all been successful in their own way (except for Batman and Robin, obviously) none of them have struck that balance, creating a world that lets Batman fully be Batman.

@@rottensquid Yeah in year one even some of the cops thought he was some sort of winged demon.

@@PikeBishop1 Right. That was the whole point of that great bit in the investigation room where Flass is giving his account of the attack while everyone laughs. This film's Batman, occasionally, manages to spin an impression of being the baddest MF in the world, but not quite an otherworldly being. It's my only real quibble. He has this great costume, but he doesn't quite use it to its full effect. Even John Wick carried a more supernatural mystique.

@@rottensquid Totally agree. He just walks onto crime scenes surrounded by cops who don't even respect him. Not exactly the aura batman should be exuding.

@@PikeBishop1 See, that part I liked. I think there's something magical to be teased out of that dichotomy, the otherworldly aura that goes with his legend, and the equally stunning reality of the ordinary man who created that aura.

a great, subtle nod!

I like that he is a noob in this film...but it is Bat-Man FFS he better get gud.

The suit sure gives him superhuman durability

Me too. It might be my fav Batman movie =)

Yea we all do mate..the most humanish batman..you can tell his emotion.. unlike other bats

@@Maddoxxx - What's with all this 'we' business?? Didn't really feel like a Batman movie, to me.

Best Batman ever

@@oddhominem this was the most “batman” movie we’ve got to date, sure the dark knight is a better movie but the batman is a better BATMAN movie focusing on bruce and his disconnection from society and his inability to distinguish himself from his alter ego as we see his progression in which he realizes he needs to be more, he needs to become a symbol of hope, hence the transition from vengeance to justice

That is so cool!

no way me too!

It was most believable bit of any Batman flying scene in any of the movies thus far. Definitely better than anything Nolan cooked in his trilogy.

@@tim_soup7099 it was ridiculous how Bruce survived eating shit the way he did in the new movie. Nolan gliding looked way cooler btw and the pseudoscientific explanation of how his cape works was interesting.

Wdym? Parachute is pulled and catches on the bridge, lowering the gforce. He lands on the back of the bus, rolls off, bounces a bit. All in a suit that withstood just about every type of ammunition and an explosion.

Nvm he hit the under side of the bridge which would've been the worst hit and definitely the least believable, but to say this was the moment your suspension of disbelief broke is still ridiculous when you compare it to alot of other scenes in this film and in Nolan's trilogy, which was also a realistic, grounded approach.

@@The.Usurper I thought he hit the light

do yourself a favor and watch it. imo its the best cbm in the last 4 years

@@helhest984 last 10 years maybe?

It's incredibly mediocre ... Don't pay to see it. I was out after the first 40 minutes ... It's all downhill from there.

@@Fiveash-Art i really wanted it to top TDK, but nah, TDK still reigns supreme as best Batman movie. The Batman has some really awful writing

@@chaddaddywarden4349 The Nolan trilogy goes down hill after Batman Begins, personally I think TDK is overrated but it absolutely destroys "The Batman" in terms of quality. Personally I thought Batman Begins was the movie that should've gotten the praise. It flew under the radar with a lot of people, which I thought was a shame. It's an absolute classic ... It had a focus that the others didn't. Yeah, The Batman is a piece of crap though. I think this zoomer generation just needs something to call their own ... It's why they're so emotionally invested. I could see people saying it was 'good', that would be fine I guess ... but no way in hell is it a 'cinematic masterpiece' 😂 ... dumb kids pretending they're watching Kubrick .. It's shallow, boring and you're correct, badly written.. it just looks nice, has the veneer of something edgy. It's incredibly mediocre.

yeah. Not sure why they had that little parachute get caught and abruptly (probably lethally) smack the sh*t into the bottom of the bridge. With the bumps and fetal position high speed rolling, I could sorta believe given he's pretty armored and possibly cushioned in the way that his whole body is in a racing helmet. That bridge smack is just absurd though.

Its a COMIC BOOK movie...

Much as I loved it when I first saw it, I really had to "lean in" to its cool look to forgive how implausible it seemed, especially to land. I was later proved right: some physicists at Leicester tried electrified memory cloth & found you can glide very far...but the slowest you can land is roughly 50 MPH. I get the "squirrel" look isn't as cool, but for me it's possibly much cooler to see Bruce get back up after falling so hard. And, most importantly, to really feel it myself. That's what I appreciate most about "The Batman." As someone who has long criticized the so-called realism of Nolan's movies, what I appreciate with Reeves here isn't "realism" as in "like reality," but "realism" as in "visceral." It's hard to truly feel anything in most superhero movies, to feel like anyone's in actual danger, etc.

hard disagree.

I like to think Pat's cape is a prototype.

That's what i like about it. It's very rudimentary technology, same with the eye contact recorders and the Batmobile. It feels like all the tech is in its early stages of development.

This fits the movie better though imo,its only year 2 batman and he is still figuring shit out,and if they go for a trilogy like they plan to,he has time to improve the suit,the wings/flying and whatever else as he gets better at being Batman.

it wouldnt make sense for realism

@@mrtimtom2631 That's why this 'Batman' sucks ... we don't need any more of this 'gritty realism' ... It's BORING and doesn't really work... because that wing suit scene, like much of the other sequences were nowhere close to 'realistic'. This version sucks.

@@Fiveash-Art Go watch Batman & Robin then lol

@@alexayers9463 Na .. I'll stick with Batman Begins ... It's a far superior movie.

His cape being a glider has been around since the 90’s I think.

​@@amuroray9115 80s

@@graceromack6662 thanks

@@amuroray9115 It originated from Batman Returns actually. Batman had gliders before that but they weren’t built into the cape.

Milan - I didn't think *any* of it was realistic. Bale's memory fabric cape wouldn't work in the real world, but it *still* looked more believable than Pattinson's wingsuit. This was taking things too far in trying to portray a real world Batman. Didn't work at all, for me.

@@oddhominem guess youve never watched a wingsuit video before? it was very realistic, maybe study some more before you say something that makes you look stupid.

@@oddhominem how does a memory fabric cape look more believable than an *actual* wing suit (which exist in real life)?

@@amuroray9115 - The idea behind the wingsuit was to show Batman using something that works in the real world. Consequently, we shouldn't have needed to suspend disbelief. The trouble is, the scene was so ridiculous that it was easier to suspend disbelief with the memory fabric glider even though it wouldn't really work in reality. The worst thing for me was seeing him looking like a flying squirrel. That entire scene was the biggest mistake of the movie, and they were quite a few.

@@oddhominem so the only issue is that he looks like a squirrel instead of a bat. Not that one glider is possible and the other isn’t. No one should have to suspend their disbelief over something as simple as aesthetic.

It looked terrible.

The fabric wings in Nolan's movies are way more unrealistic for me, personally, because it's impossible to imagine landing at anything less than 50 MPH. (Indeed, some physicists made those wings & found you can indeed glide very far, but that landing speeds are crazy fast & fatal.)

@@malexander4094 how is that any different from wingsuits?

@@MoviezGames Wingsuits have parachutes. (As seen in "The Batman.") But, it's also theoretically possible to land without one, because you can de-accelerate. Gary Connery was the 1st to do this in 2012. Granted, he had a safe runway, but he was also falling from 2400 ft. The material is another important difference. The fabric cape in Nolan's movie would have to make sense in most weather conditions, whether there's low wind, humidity or rain, etc. Not to mention, durability. E.g, I still feel Hong Kong sequence in Nolan's 2nd film is one of the best in all 3 movies. But when he bursts through the glass window at X many MPH & not an inch of the cape seems to tear...I am absolutely pretending not to notice. 😂

Has anyone crashed without injury? I'v seen some crash videos where they didnt die but I think they were all in critical condition. You cant really practice that kind of thing either because you have to get it right to first time or die.

yeah, the realism argument kind of gets thrown out the window imo once you realize this is the same movie that has fully functional camera contact lenses that also have a microphone btw.

When does the movie ever say he didn't break some ribs or something? Minor fractures, bones not broken completely in half or pieces, are common in pro sports like NFL & players still play after a shot of cortisone/novicaine and a few Tylenol. Plenty of quarterbacks in fact have played with fractured ribs, broken fingers (on throwing hand), severely rolled ankle, etc. If you pay attention, Bruce has a gigantic bruise on his shoulder & back - likely some minor fracture....but he's on a death wish mission. Bruce says verbatim to Alfred, "I don't care if I die." And Alfred tells him Bruce you will if you keep at it like this. But nah, Batman hasn't suffered any serious injuries like broken bones, concussion, contusion, etc....😢

And think he’s always wearing the armor and use normal clothes to cover it. The backpack only has the mask and the cape.

@@truongnguyendac2032 Yeah, there's no way that armour fits in the bag lol. Definitely just throws his coat over it.

@Sal Lol

I can definitely see them introducing a cape glider in future films as Batman continues to tweak and improve his tech. Given that this takes place early on in his career, I like to think of the wingsuit as his first attempt at it.

I think there's something kinda fun about it. There's really no such thing as a definitive Batman, and were there, it would be made of too many things we've seen already, and not enough surprises. Sure, The Batman sacrifices the iconic visual of the gliding bat wings in favor of "realistic" gliding that needs no explanation. They also sacrificed the overt bat motif in the Batmobile. This Batman doesn't evoke bat imagery much beyond the ears. But that's what makes this film version its own thing, distinct from Nolan's Bond-like trilogy, Burton's and Schumacher's live-action cartoons, and Snyder's 'roided out domestic terrorist with the sci-fi military tech. When someone else brings their own vision in the fullness of time, it hopefully will be something else fully unexpected. It's not about getting closer and closer to "right," because this isn't about getting it "right,", it's about doing something creative and original with a familiar character.

@@rottensquid Naturally whenever an adaptation of source material is made, there will be interpretation and almost inevitably some aspects will be excluded. That's fine. It's to be expected. I suppose it depends how much of what is considered iconic is left out. Ask a bunch of fans to describe Batman and a bunch of common aspects will be cited. Leave out too many of those and the character gets lost a bit. Luckily most of what I would consider Batman is there on screen. Enough representation of the cape gliding aspect has been used now that it's something I notice if it's not there, even though it's something that's been added over time, like the grapnel gun in that regard. But a film cannot be everything to everyone, and frankly it's a relatively small gripe which as the previous commenter pointed out, forms a good basis for Bruce to work on and improve. The film overall is solid.

@@Rekaert Right, of course. Neil Gaiman recently commented that if your Batman is a journalist in a yellow overcoat with a pet bat, it's no longer interpretation, it's just false advertising. The question is at what point does interpretation lose what's essential to the character. I agree with everyone that the glide suit isn't as cool as the wings, but I disagree that this makes it a bad interpretation. The point of this Batman is to contrast Nolan's version by being just as "realistic," but need no explanation. The gliding explains itself. We don't need to know where the car came from because we see how he's been working on it himself. One can extrapolate that it's the same with his bat-cycle, all those banged together computers and tools, even the suit itself. He didn't need to involve Wayne-Tech's R&D department, to make high-tech James Bond type gadgets. He just cobbled them together himself. That makes this version of the character unique, at least in film. And that's always a good thing. I think, if this movie leaves something to be desired, it's how Batman uses the bat motif as a tool to frighten people. We never see him using his cape and cowl to create a monstrous impression, or use darkness to play on people's fears. In fact, past the opening monologue about how he's become the shadows to strike fear into his enemies, he usually comes off as little more than a nut in a mask. Every once in a while he becomes more, like in the car chase. But it's rare. It's not something the film plays with often, and I kind of wish it did so more. That said, I think this film did some phenomenal things with the character, not least was that marvelous costume design. Hats off to good ol' Glyn Dillon once again. Further, this was easily the best, most atmospheric Gotham committed to film since the Animated Series, and beats out every other film version by a country mile for pure gothic noir magnificence. So I'll take Reeves' little unique flourishes as part of the package. Sometimes, picking at the flaws of a work of art does little but distract from its qualities. I think that's the case here. It's trying to be a "perfect" Batman film, it's trying to be its own Batman film. To complain about the details that aren't as good as other films makes "perfect" the enemy of good, and ruins the experience of a great film.

I just thought that being in his second year of being batman, it made sense that he still not had a cape that would glide, it's an advanced technology that would be implemented some years later in his carreer, I like to believe. The concept of a wing suit is realistic and practical and very experimental. We give it for granted because of Arkham Games and other animated sources that he always glided with his cape but it's not really true. Look for example as they shown in the video, in Year One, he used a glider, which made sense for the era Year One was written in. This batman is operating in a modern era and the wingsuit makes perfect sense as a prototype. It's something original and innovative I believe it was never thought before with this character.

remember he's an early batman, it's his second year. so he can improve later.

@@thegodzachieve he is everything but average. 🤦🏻‍♂️ but of course fanboys say everything to defend their thing. Instead of opening eyes, and demanding something better from the creators, they rather eat every nonsense without really enjoying it.

@@thegodzachieve partially. But it has some very serious flaws which ruins it for me.

um you haven't seen many fight videos have you I've seen 1 dude knock out 5 other dudes in less then a minute

well if you look close he hits his chest on the bridge which is completely padded so I'm pretty sure that broke the impact

The cape raps around him to become the wingsuit

It felt more practical in the Reeves movie, which makes it more thrilling

@@falkofscrum How was it any more or less practical than the Nolan movies though? In fact, I'd say the Reeves movie made it seem even more impractical considering Batman should've broken a couple bones atleast given the absolutely trash landing that he had.

As someone who's criticized the so-called realism in Nolan's movies for years, I get what you mean: but here, I don't take "realism" as in "most like reality," but rather "realism" as in "visceral," as in, it gets me up close & personal, makes me feel like I'm the one flying off the building (or how the mounted cameras really put me in that brilliant car chase, etc.). It's very, very hard for me to truly feel anything in most superhero movies. The city's at stake but the buildings feel empty. The heroes take hits but I never get the gut anxiety that they're risking life & limb. And to me, this landing is pretty believable: yes it's rough, but he's also heavily armed in kevlar, and was (unintentionally) slowed down when he hit the bus. If he's just fallen to the street, I'd consider it more impractical he didn't break any bones.

look closely he hits his chest armor first which is supposed to be experimental military armor

and he is clearly in pain when he gets up so it's not unrealistic

Right lol should have been dead

Amen.