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In this video we build our first Sub-GHz LoRa gateway (step by step) and connect it to The Things Network (TTN). This gateway can be used to connect nodes with Arduino or ESP8266 and a Hope RFM95 board to the internet. This is what we will do in a later episode.
Links:
IC880a Concentrator: webshop.imst.de/ic880a-spi-lor...
Newer gateway: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AtdHN0 (needs different software)
Raspberry Pi 3: bit.ly/2kezAfZ
Simple PCB: www.tindie.com/products/gnz/i...
Complex PCB: github.com/ch2i/iC880A-Raspbe...
github.com/ttn-zh/ic880a-gate...
Remote Gateway Repository (json): github.com/ttn-zh/gateway-rem...
How-to: github.com/ttn-zh/ic880a-gate...
The Things Network: www.thethingsnetwork.org/
Add a gateway: console.thethingsnetwork.org/...
Check Status: staging.thethingsnetwork.org/...
Gateway Map: www.thethingsnetwork.org/map
Other concentrator (e.g. for US):
kuziel.nz/notes/2016/08/lora-...
github.com/mirakonta/lora_gat...
If you want to support the channel and buy from Banggood: bit.ly/2jAQEf4 (no additional fee for you)
/ andreas-spiess-7331894...
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@cymeriandesigns 7 років тому

Your videos are a valuable resource, and you have obviously taken a great deal of time and effort to make them high quality. Thank you for making them, it's much appreciated.

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

You are welcome!

@amorporpassaros686 6 років тому

to use the internet normally? navigate UKposts, Facebook and other sites with this equipment within reach of the Sign?

@huntermcclovio4517 3 роки тому

@@amorporpassaros686 too slow for that use.

@wduraes 7 років тому

Andreas, your videos are BY FAR, the best resource on Arduino projects. Well explained, great videography and additional information helps as well. Oh and current content too, like this Lore series. Please keep up with the great work! Congratulations!!!

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

Thank you for your nice words!

@asiw 7 років тому

Really interesting again. You cover a lot in this video but it is really clear and easy to follow. I'm looking forward to the next bit before I decide if I'm going to build one. Best wishes Arthur

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

+Arthur Yarnell Wise decision. A colleague of mine also only married his girlfriend when she was pregnant ;-)

@robfel68 7 років тому

Thank you for this LoRa tutorial. I hope many more will follow.

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

You are welcome!

@rodrigoduarte501 4 роки тому

I really appreciate your videos, I discovered the TTN on your channel and now i pretend build one gateway.

@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому

Very good. Enjoy!

@martinsauerteig4882 7 років тому

Thank you for this great Video. It finaly initiated me to start a LoRa deepdive. Now we'll soon open a new TTN community and our first gateway is (nearly) working. Therefore one hint: If you use the "complex PCB" by ch2i you have to modify the start.sh because ttn-zh use GPIO25 (pin 22) for the SX_RST. The "complex PCB" use GPIO17 (pin 11). nano /opt/ttn-gateway/bin/start.shchange the line (obviously the first line) containingSX1301_RESET_BCM_PIN=25toSX1301_RESET_BCM_PIN=17

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

Thanks for the hint!

@gweliver 7 років тому

Great information tutorial. Looking forward to your sensor videos.

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

Is in the works...

@AndreasLink 4 роки тому

As always a really great and interesting video motivating to copy; I already watched multiple times. But even though it's some time older now, I would like to know if iC880A-SPI is still the best choice with an older Pi 3B or is there something newer, more state-of-the-art of same price? Are there any Pi4 suggestions or is that extra power not needed? If not, I would order an iC880A-SPI and refurbish an older Pi3B to build this gateway to place in my attic. I googled, but I always end here or at Pi3+iC880A-SPI setup, but maybe I overlooked something? Target: Build my own TTN Gateway, 8 channel, maybe with an ESP32 if existing and become part of the community.

@scart07 5 років тому

professor you are the best by far!! congrats!

@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому

Thank you!

@LeonAnavi 7 років тому

Awesome work! Well done!

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

:-)

@manifest7089 3 роки тому

Subscribe me

@maheshjoshi4893 7 років тому

Excellent video Andreas... quite informative..

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

Thanks!

@yummyzoot 6 років тому

I love to watch your videos just to hear your Swiss voice :)

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

+RV_Six :-)

@mathieuroussel9357 6 років тому

Really nice step by step video, thanks for that ! I learned a lot.

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

You are welcome!

@johnny83telbatalv 2 роки тому

Thank you so much for this useful video

@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому

You are welcome!

@anis_vr6 7 років тому

Great video as always can't wait for the cheap gateway version

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

:-)

@jeffthom3155 7 років тому

Great, Andreas...

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

:-)

@jamestate7851 5 років тому

I shall be waiting to see the video, I'm still working on building my project, around 40 feet up.++

@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому

Good luck!

@dl8cy 7 років тому

oh my wish becomes true so fast - thank you very much! useful AND interesing :-) AND interesting :-) (till the very end)

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

Thanks for your feedback. It is a good motivation.

@avejst 7 років тому

you are really up the beet. Nice 👍😀

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

Thanks!

@ozgur280 7 років тому

the series gone blow up so cool

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

:-)

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

Should be ok.

@martinkorinek3327 6 років тому

Really great videos. If possible, would be great if there will be some explanation about Spread Factor and how is that related to 8 or even 10 channels gateways. Also i found out there is quite interesting gateway RAK831, but have no experience with that so far.

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

SF is basically the time a signal takes to be transmitted. Each channel can be used with a different SF. And gateways allow even several SF on the same channel. RAK831 is in the Mail...

@AbeDillon 5 років тому

These are fantastic videos! It makes me smile a little every time you say, "The TTN Network". "The The Things Network Network" :P

@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому

Thank you! BTW: TTN is a brand name. So maybe many people do no more know what it means, like IBM or SAP

@AbeDillon 5 років тому

Yes, you're right. You do an excellent job of carefully explaining everything. Some people just explain an acronym once and by the middle of the series it gets very confusing. I don't think you did anything wrong. TTN is just an awkward name.

@hotvideos9996 5 років тому

Hello! Great video. I would like to see sensors using Lora. For example, with a temperature sensor and battery power.

@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому

Maybe you check my LoRa playlist?

@asaf158 6 років тому

i just looooove your channel!

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

Thanks!

@mumblic 6 років тому

Great video, it answer a lot of questions. Now let see how fast the community network will grow. ;-)

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

:-)

@guvenim 5 років тому

Thanks a lot, it was great video

@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому

You are welcome!

@LorenzoPatocchi 7 років тому

Hi Andreas, great videos ! May You spend few words on which is the best antenna to use for a good gateway ? Thank You (from Ticino :)

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

That is a difficult question. As a rule of thumb: 1. It has to be a 868 MHz Antenna. This is not obvious, because from the outside, they look similar to a WiFi antenna and sometimes, you get a WiFi antenna instead of a right one. 2. The bigger the better

@MrSamu1 7 років тому

Awesome these lora videos. Could you tell little bit about the gateway? Can I monitor how’s using my gateway (Just interested to see how popular my gateway would be) and can I somehow priories my on devises so they could always have some bandwidth? Looking forward for these low range communication videos because I also would like to establish my own gateway here in Finland :) I live in a city center but my parents live across a lake approximately 8 km away. It would be awesome to communicate across the lake and sent simple data back to my apartment so looking forward to see the range tests in a mixture environment.

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

So far, I did not look into the management of the network, also for example, what happens if one channel is occupied, or your node is heard be several gateways. So, still a lot of questions...

@Ed19601 7 років тому

ic880a sounds interesting. As i just wanted to connect a distant node to my home network and didnt see a need to connect to a lorawan service i used two RFM95 boards, the gateway being an rfm95 connected to an old arduino with w5100 ethernet shield (finally a purpose for that one). That arduino just pushes the received messages as mqtt on my home network. With an 'almost' LOS and simple antenna' s and abt 250 meter between sensor and gateway that works quite well

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

For a point-to point connection, using the bare module is a good idea. Maybe you could even use the cheaper RFM69 boards. A viewer built a whole network with them...

@Ed19601 7 років тому

Thanks, I have hesitated between the 69 and the 95 but as i understood (I might be wrong) the 69 only does 433 MHz. As I already have a lot of 433 Mhz traffic, I thought 868 to be a better choice, but indeed the 69 is euro's cheaper than the 95 (4 USD vs 7 USD/piece) The 95 (and probably the 69 as well) fit perfectly on an ESP866-12 BOB . I would have opted for the LoRa UNO shield that you have as well, but that uses pin 10 for CS and my ethernet shield does that too. Having said that... it is also possible to connect an RFM modyle with an ESP8266 and thus create a LoRa LAN gate Just for fun sake, i may try the RFM69 as well as I now understand the 69HW does 868 as well

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

You get the -69 in 868. I have this one on the whisper board of my last video. But it cannot do Lora (see my video tomorrow...)

@henningbjrgo5776 3 роки тому

Thanks for a great video! I watch much of your content 👌 I want to setup a LoRa gateway, and I'm wondering if I should use the same components today, or if the technology has evolved?

@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому

The technology still is the same, but you have much more choice by now. I would look at RAK wireless and chose their newest board.

@henningbjrgo5776 3 роки тому

@@AndreasSpiess Thanks! I've ordered the RAK2245 Pi Hat and look forward to make the gateway 👌

@mandarnagarkar5983 6 років тому

Andreas Thank you for such a great tutorial. I just wanted to know if we can have LoRa gateway without TTN Network?. i.e. Does LoRa work with our own server without needing to use TTN. Also please let me know , if you have any blog or Tutorial Links for Creating a Node and Gateway without TTN network

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

Maybe you watch today's video?

@alejandroariaszuluaga4626 3 роки тому

Hello Andreas, great video! Do you know if this same procedure can be implemented in Latinamerica as well? Thanks in advance! Love your videos!

@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому

I think so. Maybe you go to the TTN page to see the coverage near you.

@baticzek8 7 років тому

Hi, I'd like to see some video about range test of this module. Very good work.

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

Wait and see...

@naveennoelj 7 років тому

Andreas, excellent video. Any plans to do videos on VLC (Visible Light Communication)

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

No, not yet. Maybe in the future...

@Artichoked1 9 місяців тому

Great video. This series has been so useful for me learning about LoRaWAN. I'm thinking of using the technology to build a modular weather station system. But where can i buy an iC880A that isnt like $150?

@AndreasSpiess 9 місяців тому

You should find other gateways not. But they are not cheap if they have to be outdoor.

@Laflx 3 роки тому

Hi Andreas, thank you for another great video! Would this gateway work for helium mining?

@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому

Helium is different and it will not run. The included crypto currency into their solution and you have to buy their stuff.

@BiswajitSahu_bisudw 5 років тому

Hi Sir, i am a huge fan of your work.. I often see your videos and keep myself updated with new technology. I belong to a CS background with basic knowledge in electronics. I want to setup a LoRa network point to point within 3km of radius but its surrounded by various buildings. Can you please recommend me which module to use and which antenna will be appropriate

@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому

Maybe you watch my LoRa videos about range and direct connection

@MatthewTaylorAu 6 років тому

Thanks. The soldering mods are a bit fiddly. I'm leaning towards paying a little extra for a more complete design. Thanks so much for the info.

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

Many things in life get easier if you practice ;-)

@MDFRESCUER 7 років тому

Good video.

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

Thanks

@jhuisman8338 5 років тому

Andreas, Thanks for the video. I was wondering whether you would normally set up your application (user GUI/control/dashboard) on a different server and use the TTN server as a conduit from your LoraWan gateway to TTN? For instance, I have a ThingsBoard service running on the web that accepts data and allows analytics and display, setting up web-based dashboard etc. If I had a script that passed on to that service?

@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому

You can access your messages on the TTN page through MQTT or web services.

@aldaxhafa7079 6 років тому

Hi, Great job about the video. I have a question: Do you know if there is away to stop the connection of the gateway from ttn. Which of this steps followed should be removed or modify ? Thank you in advance!

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

I would just switch it off. And then, you can set it privately that nobody else sees it on the TTN platform. Or you delete it there.

@TheThingsNetworkCommunity 3 роки тому

Hi Andreas! Great to see all the awesome content about using LoRaWAN and The Things Network. We’ve released a new version of our network server, and we'd like to work with you to refresh some old content so it aligns with The Things Stack (the old network server is being sunset). What's the best way to reach you?

@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому

It is already in planning. Wienke has my email address.

@debihsofiane3229 3 роки тому

Thank you

@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому

You're welcome

@abdelilahbouslama2098 7 років тому

Hi i want thank you for this wonderful tutorials. i have question about the possibility to use this gateway in north of africa? thank for your help

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

If you have a internet connection: Yes. However, I do not know about the legal situation (if this matters)

@abdelilahbouslama2098 7 років тому

LORA network is not installed in north africa. we have internet of course. thank a lot for your help

@heck0216 6 років тому

Hello Andreas, I have seen your LoRa related videos and are very informative. Thank you. My question for you is, would you please recommend a LoRa Starter Kit? I want to get into testing it. I can build the gateway and nodes (thanks!) but I also need a decent portal to display data and configure triggers/alerts and that will be a time challenge for me hence I’d like to get a vendors kit, connect it to TTN and used the vendors portal. Thank you for the time taken to evaluate my question

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

TTN provides some interfaces to get the data. Many of my viewers use node-red to get these messages and do something with them. Node-red has prefabricated noes to connect to TTN.

@heck0216 6 років тому

Thank you Andreas. I've done a quick research/test based on your advise and Node-red is the answer I was looking for at the current stage of my project. As it has been said repeatedly on this channel, your contribution to the community is a valuable source and very much appreciated.

@waelfarhatfullstackdevelop8467 5 років тому

thank you for the video , Is there a video about setting up a personal LoRaWAN network you can point me at,I don't want to use ttn

@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому

I do not know of such a video.

@happysoul4024 3 роки тому

you are the best...

@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому

Thank you!

@dhandesharayu 3 роки тому

Hi Andreas, Great tutorial! I'm also planning to use ic880a-spi for my gateway but concentrator work's on European frequency range (863-870MHz) and I want to use it between 865-867MHz frequency which is the Indian frequency range. Will the same concentrator can be used for my required frequency? If not, Can you please help me using it between 865-867MHz frequency range?

@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому

Maybe you go to the TTN forum and search for Indian users. There are newer models out there by now (like form RAK wireless). The frequency is selected by the software. The hardware just has to support the right band (like 868, 915, or 433MHz.

@andrewlong9388 4 роки тому

Hi. Thanks for the video. Is there an interface PCB for the Raspberry Pi 4?

@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому

The PCB should be compatible. But the Pi4 gets quite hot and it is not easy to get the heat removed with any additional boards on it.

@hansvink9178 6 років тому

Hi Andreas, First of all thanks for sharing so many video’s, it is always a pleasure to watch and to learn about technics and (for me) new products! Following your instructions I’ve build the gateway with the same backplane from Tindie and the RPi 3. Unfortunately it turned out the gateway does not work and I see errors in the log, it looks there is a problem to start the concentrator: Jan 20 18:36:26 ttn-gateway ttn-gateway[2366]: ERROR: [main] failed to start the concentrator SPI on the RPi is enabled and I’ve checked the soldering of the backplane and it is okay. But measuring shows an issue, iC880a pin 22 (GND) is not connected to RPi pin 6 via the backplane. It even looks pin 22 is not connected to any other part of the backplane. This is strange because the green LED of the concentrator turns on when powering the RPi. Is pin 6 on your backplane connected to pin 22? Are you known with this issue or problems with the backplane? Do you have a suggestion to solve this? Best regards, Hans.

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

No, I do not know this problem. But the TTN forum is the best place to search for help. There the specialist are very helpful.

@hansvink9178 6 років тому

Thank you. Gonzalo, from the Tindie backplane, was so kind to give me some great advice and now it works.

@TECHWITHGAYAN 6 років тому

sir, can we do commercial things using this LoRa gateway ? your videos are awesome and learned lot from those :)

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

There are commercial LoRa WAN providers in certain countries and Sigfox is a similar, commercially available, technology

@danmyself5341 5 років тому

thanks !

@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому

You are welcome!

@IncaTrails 7 років тому

I was inspired by your video and getting ready to order parts. The IC880a transmits at 868MHz and I need 915Mhz since I am in the USA. Can you recommend a US friendly concentrator? Thanks and I have been really enjoying your videos!

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

No, because I have no experience. But maybe you go to the TTN network forum. There, you find some knowledgeable people..

@xennelul 7 років тому

They are working on 915mhz

@spreeuferberlin 7 років тому

thx

@chuxxsss 7 років тому

neon light is a good lightning arrester.

@afsanehakhbari8880 3 роки тому

thank you, great video, Do we need to change reset pin in start.sh ?

@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому

I do no more remember the details. This is quite an old video :-(

@afsanehakhbari8880 3 роки тому

@@AndreasSpiess thank you, Do you suggest using IC880A-spi as lora concentrator ? I asked this question because this video is old and I wanted to know if ic880a-spi is still good choice

@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому

You get now newer products from RAKwireless or Heltec. I would go for one of those newer products. Maybe you also want to use a ready-made one.

@afsanehakhbari8880 3 роки тому

@@AndreasSpiess Thank you dear andreas for the reply. I am using Senscap lorawan gateway, I want to know if I use dragino lora shield (RFM95(W)) +arduino uno for the lora end device would be a good choice? would it be connected to my gateway?

@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому

If you use the right software all RFM95 work (check that they support the same frequency range). Most people today use TTGO or Heltec boards for their projects, BTW.

@davidbismark2770 7 років тому

Is it possible to have the antenna on an extension or have a longer antenna so that I can place the antenna on the roof and the boards inside my office? Or do I definitely have to place the whole thing on the roof?

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

The law limits the radiation at the antenna. So, if you have a long cable with losses, you can compensate this with a bigger antenna. See my first LoRa video about cable losses...

@mikhaild1113 6 років тому

Hello Andreas, Thank you very much for the video! But I have one point unclear. The Lora frequency is unlicensed and there is no collision detection/avoidance in the protocol. What if many commercial and many private solutions were installed on the same area? What if the number of end-devices were millions or billions? Even different channels and spreading factors may not help in these circumstances.

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

Then you will have collisions.

@user-xo3sx9wd7b 6 років тому

Thank you for sharing this video. I am not sure about the ic880a(868MHz), could I use ic880a as gateway of LoRa network in the Country that is in ASIAN countries ?

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

AFAIK Asian countries use 433 MHz. It depends on your laws which frequencies you are allowed to use (if you care).

@user-xo3sx9wd7b 6 років тому

Andreas Spiess, Thank you for your reply !

@pierreamey9660 6 років тому

Dear Andeas, Thanks a lot for this video (and all other). I ordered and I got the material. I connected the part and I have now my first gateway ready to be configured (I am novice). I have a couple of basic questions. On the IC880 board, can I solder a SMA connector close to the ufl connector? I noticed the hole for a SMA. I supposed, the holes are for a SMA connector if we want to use it instead of a ufl? On the ICST backplane there is like a DC Barrel Power Jack to power the board. What's the max Power/Amperage for the modules? Can I connect a 7.5V/2.3Ah lion battery, or a 3.7V/2.6Ah battery to power all modules incl Raspberry board, instead of using a usb cable? Grüss von Genf!!

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

+Pierre Amey I am no specialist in this matter and did only use it exactly as described. So pls ask the supplier your questions. He knows it much better than me.

@pierreamey9660 6 років тому

Andreas Spiess Danke schöne für Ihre schnell Antworte und schöne abend

@elishaul4125 7 років тому

First of all thank you for investing in videos, I want to build a gateway but in my country the frequency is 433Mhz, Do you know what product I should use? I'm sorry about English, Many thanks eli

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

No, I do not know. But go on the homepage of Thethingsnetwork. You will find help there in the forum

@MehrdadGivehchi 7 років тому

Hi Andreas Do you have a recommendation for a concentrator that operates at frequency suited for USA? Many thanks

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

+Mehrdad Givehchi No. I would go to the forum of the TTN and ask an American guy

@kumarnarendra3594 6 років тому

Thanks for your great Videos .. Could you please create a video on creating IoT cloud server and creating IoT gateway , data transfer to cloud server using node-red MQTT ?

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

What would the whole scenario do and what do you want to do with the data in the cloud? There are already MQTT cloud servers available. I used them in earlier videos about MQTT.

@kumarnarendra3594 6 років тому

Sir.. Many thanks for your precious time !! Instead sending data to TTN cloud , I would like to send it to my personal domain. And to connect LoRa gateway to cloud server , I would like to use MQTT but using Node-Red as to minimize the coding efforts .

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

Then you have to build and program your own gateway and web service. This is why I like the work of the TTN guys. TTN is only the transport and you easily can connect your node-red to their infrastructure (I did it in one of my videos) to store the data.

@Great_XicoZe Рік тому

Great channel!! One question: can I operate 868mhz or 433mhz in Europe? What's the difference? Which one do you recommend?

@AndreasSpiess Рік тому

Both are allowed. But LoRaWAN is on 868

@Great_XicoZe Рік тому

@@AndreasSpiess I bought 3 lilygo ttgo on 433. On meshtastic I can only operate between my units, right?. No benefit from others mesrtastic devices that are using 868?.... My big mistake.

@brusovse 2 роки тому

Shall we aspect this video upgrade with new Basic Station tutorial in the future?

@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому

Recently, I made a V3 video. No need to go to Basic station for the moment.

@madhukollavar4733 7 років тому

nice information ..can I know how much it will cost..? including both arduino and gateway..

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

You find the link to the sources in the comment. Here, it was about 300 dollars. I presented also a cheaper version in one of my videos.

@Gianlu83le 2 роки тому

Hi Andreas, first of all I Would like to thank you for your videos, they are very interesting and professional.I spend a lot of time on them. Very thanks! I need to put in place some LORA senders and one LORA receiver (that should be connected to the internet). I'll have a server on the cloud that should be retrive the data and process it. So, on the senders I'm using Arduino and I'll add a Dragino shield for LORA. I have a doubt about the receiver: my idea is to make it using a Raspberry PI with a LORA hat. I also saw that on the market there are some ready LORA Gateway (like for example the same Dragino LORA-WAN gateway). My (probably stupid) quetion is: what is the advantage to make the gateway using the RaspberryPI instead of to buy a ready to use Dragino gateway? If I'm not wrong the prices are almost aligned. Thanks!

@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому

You can either buy a Gateway or build it yourself. Both work the same as long as you use 8-Channel gateways. They are more expensive than single-channel models.

@cliftonbrown911 7 років тому

Andreas, I'm curious if the Loran Gateway could be powered by solar. Would you consider checking the amperage use for the gateway during a transmission. Thank you.

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

As you see, it is placed outside now. So, I cannot measure power consumption. Because it is only allowed to send 1% of time, transmission is not the issue for solar considerations. I think, the Rasbi is the biggest consumer.

@cliftonbrown911 7 років тому

Thank you for your contribution, a big help. There are some interesting ideas on the TTN Forum regarding inexpensive solar solutions. I'm going to hack a small solar pathway lamp to see if it could be used after disabling the leds.

@cliftonbrown911 7 років тому

Thanks for all your help. For the moment I'm looking for a solar alternative for just the node and maybe a node repeater if I can find such a device. I'm thinking a gateway might be closer to a power source or maybe powered via ethernet.

@cliftonbrown911 7 років тому

This product should provide a great benchmark if it works. www.kickstarter.com/projects/trystenergy/light-energy-iot-modules-ble-lora-without-batterie#

@e1Pr0f3ss0r 4 роки тому

How to use LoRa module with RC planes? Can we replace it with NRF module?

@TheKaka129 4 роки тому

Bro i fucking love you, these tutorial are amazing

@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому

Thank you!

@dougmanatt4317 7 років тому

I recently got my first LoRa radios, perhaps it is a little far from California to reach you gateway!

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

And the wrong frequency in addition...

@lauraguijarro3855 6 років тому

Perfect video, but How can you now your EUI from the code ??

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

Usually, it should be displayed in your terminal.

@michel3329 4 роки тому

Hi Andreas, would you consider your used hardware (besides the Pi) to be still up to date? Video is almost 3 years old, and I am about to get a gateway running.

@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому

Later I built a gateway using RAK wireless hardware. But I have no overwiew anymore as I do not need more gateways... You get now also more and more readymade devices.

@Vishal-nt6rj 4 роки тому

Hi, Is dragino LG01 is only receiver(RX)? Can it send (TX) data to microcontroller which is connected to SX1276 transreceiver?

@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому

All gateways can send and receive

@BYAZIT 3 роки тому

Can you please give me update how can I create my own gateway with ttgo?

@dsmith004 2 роки тому

Does a higher level protocol provide the retransmit capability missing in the physical layer?

@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому

No. LoRaWAN uses a so-called "Aloha protocol" and usually has no back channel.

@rollandjones8777 7 років тому

Hi Andreas, #115 is done.

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

Thanks! Published.

@yi-siangciou9119 6 років тому

Hi Andreas ! I just test the transmission distance with my Arduino/Pi/sx1276 single channel module! What I want to build is a single channel gateway with raspberry Pi. But that means the problem will show up as you mention in 1:02 Did you test that how many devices can contain with IC880a? Is that mean it will no need to concern about collision with IC880a? (because of multi-channel ) The idea of mine is using Lora's "channel activity detect" to wake every nodes to achieve power saving and avoid collision. Thanks for reading above message. Have a good day!

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

1. LoRa protocol and Gateways are made for around 1000 nodes per gateway. But of course, this depends heavily on the frequency of transmission and the length of the message. Collisions cannot be avoided, but should be included in these calculations.

@yi-siangciou9119 6 років тому

Thanks for reply Andreas. So your system can basically contain 8 devices in 8 different channel. Did you do some mechanism to avoid collision? Does your system contain completely LoRaWAN function ? Thanks!

@AdnanAdnan-yg5gl Рік тому

Dear mr Andreas. Thx for an excellent video. Just to ask you, what components (from which vendors) I can buy to build my own gateway (for my smart agriculture project)? Also, for example, If I buy Arduino MKR WAN 1310 (LoRa) and connect SIM800l (for GPRS internet connection) on it, will I then get an LoRaWAN gateway in total?

@AndreasSpiess Рік тому

Maybe you watch my other videos about LoRaWAN. Then you will see that you need a LoRaWAN gateway and many LoRaWAN sensors. You find them also in your country, I think. This is an old video and currently, it is better to buy a gateway than to build one.

@AdnanAdnan-yg5gl Рік тому

@@AndreasSpiess ok. Thank you on your replay. But ofcourse it is still possible to build my own Gateway? For example, as You described in your video?

@AdnanAdnan-yg5gl Рік тому

I forgot to ask, if I decide to buy LoRaWAN GW, which one to buy?

@AndreasSpiess Рік тому

@@AdnanAdnan-yg5gl Just buy the one you need (indoors or outdoors, for example) and which is available in your country. They all have the same functionality if they are TTN compliant.

@AndreasSpiess Рік тому

@@AdnanAdnan-yg5gl Yes. However you have to watch the migration video to TTN V3.

@DavidFowlerEngineer 7 років тому

I ask about lightning protection because I do have a LORA gateway up and I need to protect it. So far I've been lucky. I wonder if there is a ready made thing that I could insert in the antenna cable. I'm sure it would need a large ground lead, might have a gas switch inside to shunt the energy...

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

I understand. From what I understand so far is, that you can protect your antenna or your cables towards the gateway. I think, I will not try to protect the antenna, because the chance that even a protected concentrator will survive a lightning attack is small. An I plan to use WLAN for connection. Then, I just have to protect the power supply. And with a solar panel, also this would be obsolete and because of lacking ground reference, the chance for a lightning attach would be minimal. Lightning searches the fastest way to earth...

@RubenLensvelt 7 років тому

Andreas Spiess That's a charming solution.

@DavidFowlerEngineer 7 років тому

In my case, the antenna is mounted on a commercial building with some LMR cable running to a Multi-Tech concentrator. Everything is powered from mains. A direct strike is basically the end. But the smaller precursor voltage spikes might be shunted to protect the hardware.

@nicklaspersson4687 7 років тому

Perhapps this will help:stormhighway.com/protection.php

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

Thanks for the comment!

@jadeanthonydelapena2242 7 років тому

Awesome presentation sir. I have a question: What is the use of registering a newly created gateway to TTN? I have searched the map in the TTN and unfortunately, there is no registered gateway in our area. So supposed I have successfully created a gateway and register it to TTN, does it mean other people can freely use it? Thank you in advanced. Your tutorials are very informative and useful indeed :)

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

The concept of TTN is, that everybody can freely use all gateways.

@jadeanthonydelapena2242 7 років тому

I have searched the iC880A and read its datasheet. One of its key features as shown in the datasheet is its Frequency Band is 868MHz. My location is in the Philippines (Asia). Is it still ok to use this? Thank you

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

Asian countries usually use 433 MHz for LoraWan. Ask your question in the TTN forum. There, you will find a specialist.

@PhG1961 7 років тому

TRUE !

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

:-)

@danmyself5341 5 років тому

I was wondering. What is the maximum distance and throughput of all the devices you have tested gave most performance? in your experience

@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому

Maybe you watch my videos in the LoRa playlist about range (wardriving and world record)

@danmyself5341 5 років тому

Great, Thanks !

@youngkevinsmith 3 роки тому

At 58 secs does Lora have any collision detection mechanism? No it just sends and hopes.... aloha system Tks useful

@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому

Yes, it is an aloha system. Usually that is no problem where it is used. But of course, you have to know what you do.

@garrypkeogh 7 років тому

And so to the Raspberry Pi you mention at about 10:00 minutes in this video. Not only has a nice compact Pi Zero been updated to include native Wireless networking but it is available just outside LoRa range in Nederlands! Here is a link to an €11 option for you Andreas! I will most likely use a Raspberry Pi Zero W at least as an experiment on my own house. I have easy access to the roof and would employ a single 220vac connection to the house as you did in the end. I have very strong WiFi at my gateway site. Thanks and keep up the good work Andreas! www.kiwi-electronics.nl/raspberry-pi-zero/raspberry-pi-zero-w

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

Thanks for the link! 11 Euro is a good price. But I have already purchased one a few month ago. And because so far, I did not do a lot with Raspberries, it is still laying around... And good luck with your Gateway. I think, using 220 and Wi-Fi is the easiest way if possible.

@karanamaditya5118 6 років тому

hello, Iam testing lora communication by using RN2483 PICTAIL LoRa module, i bought two of those lora modules can they communicate directly without any gateway in between? please reply ASAP , thankyou in advance

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

I have a video with LoRa point-to-point connection

@deangreenhough3479 7 років тому

Morning Andreas

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

+Dean Greenhough Good morning Dean

@isaacmariotupacdavila781 4 роки тому

Hi! I have a question.In my country the band that we are available to use is 923MHz. The concentrator that you use works in the band of 868Mz and I looked in the web and I think the IC880a only has that frequency available. So , would you recommend me a concentrator that works in 923MHz ?

@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому

Maybe you go to the forum of TTN. There you might find somebody from your country to ask how it is done.

@isaacmariotupacdavila781 4 роки тому

@@AndreasSpiess Good idea! Thanks!

@eddake 4 роки тому

Hi! Mr.Spiess Can we connect gateway with ardunio?

@AndreasSpiess 4 роки тому

Maybe you watch the LoRa Introduction video?

@jadenbehr2115 6 років тому

Is it possible to build a LoRa gateway with an STM32 Nucleo board and an I-Nucleo-LRWAN1 expansion board?

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

Why not? If you get the software for the board.

@styleauto1025 2 роки тому

Hi can you used this for the HNT network?

@AndreasSpiess 2 роки тому

@mesbahyoussef2618 7 років тому

Hi ! thank you for your Job ! I have just one probleme why I receive data every minute and not in reall time please there's some configuration to fix that?

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

You should get the data when you send it. So, maybe your node only sends a message every minute. There are also limitations on how many messages you are allowed to send per day.

@mesbahyoussef2618 6 років тому

thank you for helping me it was the fact of duty-cycle! it work very good now i can send message every 5 second yeey :D

@pakarney 6 років тому

Andreas Spiess yes I am sending every 5 min

@pakarney 6 років тому

I am abled to get full decrypted messages

@pakarney 6 років тому

I am running gateway from afternoon still decoding without crashing

@anpr 6 років тому

Tommy and lora were lovers

@yashasky5697 5 років тому

hello! Can we replace the IC880a board by an UART lora module to implement a gateway for private network?

@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому

Maybe you watch my video about a single channel gateway?

@DavidFowlerEngineer 7 років тому

Please describe the lightning protection.

@AndreasSpiess 7 років тому

I do not understand a lot about that. I just know, that it is important...

@nomadic_rider42 7 років тому

David Fowler it's probably a copper rod attached to the housing, and to the ground on the other side.

@michaelecker448 7 років тому

Andreas Spiess 😋famous last words... hahaha...

@amorporpassaros686 6 років тому

to use the internet normally? navigate UKposts, Facebook and other sites with this equipment within reach of the Sign?

@JDeubler 6 років тому

I'm struggling to find a 915MHz concentrator. If I buy one that isn't the one you used in the video will I struggle to configure it with the same Github files?

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

In the TTN forum, there are people which use other concentrators. Maybe you search there for one which is supported in your area.

@JDeubler 6 років тому

Andreas Spiess I found this which I think is an alternative to the concentrator for US bands. Do you think I can use this instead and get away with the same Github Files or no? sandboxelectronics.com/?product=lorago-port-multi-channel-lorawan-gateway#Resources

@JDeubler 6 років тому

Andreas Spiess my real question would be even If I use a different board and get it registered with TTN can I still use your video on how to create nodes? Thanks a ton!

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

I do not know it. Very important is that you have the needed support and somebody already have connected it to LoRaWAN There is also a Chinese one from RAK which was discussed in the forum.

@ujjainwalataher1322 5 років тому

I saw your video, many times one thing that is uncleared is how can i configure the remote gateway settings ? if i configure the file with the .json extension.. where am i supposed to put that file ???

@AndreasSpiess 5 років тому

The link is in the description (github.com/ttn-zh/gateway-rem...)

@ujjainwalataher1322 5 років тому

@@AndreasSpiess I did everything mentioned, but i get error "failed to start the concentrator" I am using 5v,1.6A adapter. Is this the adpater issue ? my ttn console always shows not connected. can you help me with this ? Hope to hear from you soon Thank You

@vishaalvishaal2118 3 роки тому

Hello Andreas, Is this a multichannel gateway with changing SF?

@AndreasSpiess 3 роки тому

All multichannel gateways can deal with all SFs

@yogeshyogi4688 6 років тому

@andreasspiess ......can LoRa be used for Machine2Machine connection ? if yes..... is there a purpose to connect my gateway to the cloud??

@AndreasSpiess 6 років тому

1. Lora is a physical connection. So, you can connect whatever devices you want. 2. The advantage of Lorawan (including gateway is, that it is one to many, you can bridge big distances using also the internet, you have a MQTT interface.