Annie Jacobsen on Nuclear War - a Second by Second Timeline

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Future of Life Institute

Future of Life Institute

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Annie Jacobsen joins the podcast to lay out a second by second timeline for how nuclear war could happen. We also discuss time pressure, submarines, interceptor missiles, cyberattacks, and concentration of power. You can find more on Annie's work at anniejacobsen.com
Timestamps:
00:00 A scenario of nuclear war
06:56 Who would launch an attack?
13:50 Detecting nuclear attacks
19:37 The first critical seconds
29:42 Decisions under time pressure
34:27 Lessons from insiders
44:18 Submarines
51:06 How did we end up like this?
59:40 Interceptor missiles
1:11:25 Nuclear weapons and cyberattacks
1:17:35 Concentration of power

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@robdempsey8866
@robdempsey8866 23 дні тому
She’s calmly and lovingly explaining to a cherished young person how they’re going to be incinerated with love
@mikedobrovic6837
@mikedobrovic6837 25 днів тому
Does anyone else find her voice very relaxing? I mean she's talking about the end of the world and I'm still like... ☺️
@shonstoehr6875
@shonstoehr6875 25 днів тому
Yes, I know what you mean
@SlayerOfheck
@SlayerOfheck 25 днів тому
You'll change your tone very quickly when war comes to your neighbourhood
@bradmills9683
@bradmills9683 25 днів тому
Agree.. Intellectually turn on
@douglaseuritt3919
@douglaseuritt3919 24 дні тому
Just the opposite for me. I can’t mesh the serious historian with the constant Valley Girl “right?”that is tossed onto the end of way too many sentences.
@cws8914
@cws8914 24 дні тому
Yes, she needs to do an ASMR video.
@IAmJaguarPaw.ThisIsMyForest.
@IAmJaguarPaw.ThisIsMyForest. 12 днів тому
Annie Jacobsen: She is the ultimate Horror/ASMR/Bedtime Story Narrator. Nothing this horrible ever sounded so good.
@ttssa2030
@ttssa2030 19 днів тому
I grew up in the Soviet Union and we had a nuclear underground concrete shelter next to every school and drill what to do in case of nuclear attack. I don't see any nuclear shelters in major cities in the US, and that nuclear shelters should be constructed and ready asap!
@springer-qb4dv
@springer-qb4dv 19 днів тому
Too late. USA has grown fat and lazy.
@peterphilstacey4698
@peterphilstacey4698 8 днів тому
why ,,,, you have no chance at all, if your in a shelter near to a bomb, your buried alive anyway.
@elitetrader5468
@elitetrader5468 8 днів тому
They are pointless. Sure you might survive the initial blast, but then you'll be dead in the coming weeks due to radiation fallout, starvation, disease, etc. All of society will collapse. There will be no supplies coming in. You simply cannot survive a nuclear war in the long run unless you are some elite mountain man living off the grid in the middle of the woods in a remote country and that's like super rare. 99.9999999999% of the world doesn't have the skills.
@Dragon4Soul
@Dragon4Soul 7 днів тому
There were shelters back in the day but they were only in the big cities for the most part. Some where along the way our government came to the conclusion that you can't protect people with shelters due to the size of the bombs both sides were deploying.
@millsy1861
@millsy1861 3 дні тому
Your shelter would be vaporised. Have you not listened to what happens with modern nukes? Anyone in a city is dead.....☹️
@scottcampbell8411
@scottcampbell8411 18 днів тому
She mentions The Day After. British film Threads is much more terrifying. I saw the ABC movie the nite it was telecast, Threads a few years later at a small boutique theater. Threads was, IMO, much more realistic.
@daveeyes
@daveeyes 3 дні тому
You can find Threads online.
@geoffpool7476
@geoffpool7476 3 дні тому
Threads was, in some sense, more realistic because the post nuclear narrative doesn't go beyond 20 or so kilometers. Everything becomes local. Decent into chaos even more local.
@robdempsey8866
@robdempsey8866 День тому
I watched threads also. It was scary.
@robdempsey8866
@robdempsey8866 День тому
@@geoffpool7476 agreed if you’re unlucky enough to survive the attack you’ll wish you didn’t
@aricohen616
@aricohen616 12 годин тому
I’m reading her book now. It’s absolutely eye opening and mind blowing. We are so under prepared for nuclear war.
@mholsather
@mholsather 8 днів тому
Great but terrifying book. Absolutely terrifying
@eschdaddy
@eschdaddy 24 дні тому
I just got done with the audiobook. It’s astonishing, frightening and well worth it. Buy this book and share it!
@Exanto777
@Exanto777 11 днів тому
Way out of date
@eschdaddy
@eschdaddy 11 днів тому
@@Exanto777 : In what respect?
@Exanto777
@Exanto777 10 днів тому
@@eschdaddy Let’s face it, an aggressor nuclear power will look to benefit themselves and not explode radioactive dust around the world. This woman’s assumptions are way out of date. It’s very likely that an aggressor would detonate nuclear bombs 300 miles above another country to destroy its computers and electrical apparatus. After that a more conventional invasion to destroy the population by means of forces including humans and robots.
@eschdaddy
@eschdaddy 9 днів тому
@@Exanto777: Seriously, what are you referring to. Not rhetorical, just wondering your perspective.
@Exanto777
@Exanto777 9 днів тому
@@eschdaddy what this woman refers to was about right for the 1950s. However, those nuclear armed countries don’t want to cause a radioactive dust cloud to envelope the earth. If they attack, they would explode the bombs about 250 miles above the target country. That would destroy all the step up transformers and put the electrical grid out of business, plus it would destroy all unprotected computers and similar devices in cars etc. The result in the target country would be a disorganised population which would be easy to destroy with more conventional forces containing humans, drones, robots, and land machines. The target country would not be contaminated or badly damaged but entirely cleared of humans. It would not be the end of the world either, though horrific for those in the gun sights. In order to minimise response time for the target country to respond, such ‘clean’ attack would be more feasible from short distance submarine or from space; not from land based silo or bomber. The biggest risk to the world is from the USA which seems to have no plan for any of this and would explode nuclear bombs on an enemy inside the earth atmosphere.
@SocioecologicalInterdependance
@SocioecologicalInterdependance 12 днів тому
Even in Canada, the US owns a lab in many upper air stations with air scrubbers that detect radioactive isotopes. These filters are changed regularly and the difference in time between detection between locations allows triangulation of where the isosopes came from. In this way, nuclear incidents or tests above ground cannot be hidden. The Americans can find the location of any such event anywhere on the planet.
@NickDeperto
@NickDeperto 7 днів тому
Bought her book on audible and on amazon to try to support her for doing such great, detailed work. Looking forward to reading it (but at the same time not, lol)
@darkwinter-lll
@darkwinter-lll 24 дні тому
She needs a netflix show
@ShikataGaNai100
@ShikataGaNai100 12 днів тому
I got the audio book...and, as former USAF Intelligence, I was amazed at the authenticity, the detail, and the horror. It is definitely worth reading or listening to.
@jaypollock9347
@jaypollock9347 22 дні тому
If we were going to strike N. Korea, wouldn’t we use submarines? Just curious because Annie describes a scenario where we would “go over pole” and Russia using ICBM’s.
@smkinaces2374
@smkinaces2374 20 днів тому
Yes, we would use the Ohio class subs. In conjunction with icbm. The book goes into great detail about the usage.
@juhokuusisto9339
@juhokuusisto9339 19 днів тому
Yes. The over the pole thing is just stupid with NK.
@podcastfan2544
@podcastfan2544 17 днів тому
Her goal as an author is to tie in all the actions in a Nuke War often she uses specific examples to do this so it's not exactly Realistic but the specific actions are. Lastly, she ignores Presidential Directive PD-60 which states we are not in Launch on Warning Mode currently but must absorb a strike before we can retaliate. Check it out for yourself PD-60! ! !
@robk8463
@robk8463 23 дні тому
For such an expert there are a few holes in her information. The US has Attack Subs following every single Russian Sub. Not that the Russian sub-fleet ventures out much anymore. Also, we would not use ICBMs on North Korea. We would use SLBMs (Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles) and/or nuclear-capable cruise missiles.
@chrisevans9688
@chrisevans9688 22 дні тому
Chris Evans not cool just like you power back and look and time we be you and hope you would love that and look at you do that show that happen now that this is good news soon gool thanks again this morning so you
@robk8463
@robk8463 22 дні тому
@@chrisevans9688 Are you having a stroke?
@chrisevans9688
@chrisevans9688 22 дні тому
@@robk8463 Chris Evans just me first so I can help you would love people so I can do anything with them and I can find out now if we do anything from this one day did you take now and see how much is do next week we will talk tomorrow night
@frankadam1800
@frankadam1800 21 день тому
True. Russian Subs are outdated except the new Borej A class. They could and would easily being detected and followed by modern attack subs. So they won´t be able to launch their missiles because they will be destroyed before that. The 2 new Borejs might be harder to track. But perhaps they are a hoax like the Armata Tank and other "gamechanger" Russia only has on paper.
@smkinaces2374
@smkinaces2374 20 днів тому
Icbms are in a fixed location and the location of these nukes are well known. We could lose their capabilities if there was an attack. They also are the quicker option to use as they are out in a minute. It would make sense to use the visible option. Also these sites are considered sponges, they will be attacked because of their visibility.
@Spaceflightlover2010
@Spaceflightlover2010 6 днів тому
She should make a relaxation audio for playing when the bombs drop. Just some herbal tea and her voice. Ahhh, so peaceful (blinding flash).
@pennyscott316
@pennyscott316 18 днів тому
How wonderful to listen to a well-spoken, articulate, knowledgeable person on possibly the most important subject of our time. I can’t listen to people drunk with emotions, which is most people in mainstream media and to a lesser extent, UKposts and the like, and people in general. I applaud sober people who speak clearly and intelligently and who don’t spew their emotional energy all over the listener. High praise to Annie and my deepest thanks to her for sharing the facts of such a deeply serious matter in such a calm and reasonable way. Thanks Annie for making palatable, what is unthinkable. I plan to get the audio of this woman’s remarkable book.
@willemjohannessmit9636
@willemjohannessmit9636 7 днів тому
I agree 100% She'll even put the mozzies here in Africa to sleep! What a soothing voice this lady has. Just imagine her counting down the doomsday missiles. I'll be fast asleep before the first one hits... (What has humanity come to?)
@Arman-dc6uo
@Arman-dc6uo 2 дні тому
She has an amazing voice
@doctoruttley
@doctoruttley 25 днів тому
Awesome podcast. Just ordered her book. 👌🏻
@daveeyes
@daveeyes 3 дні тому
Sounds like an interesting book. I'll check it out. She's certainly hyping it up; many many interviews on UKposts.
@goarmysleepinthemud.
@goarmysleepinthemud. 27 днів тому
Glad she is talking about the fallacy of the current U.S interceptor system. I can't believe how many people believe the interceptors are a credible defense in their current guise.
@skenzyme81
@skenzyme81 27 днів тому
Correct. Deploying a system that would intercept even 80% of nuclear missiles would cost 2 or 3 Trillion dollars. But if we deployed such a system, an adversary could just massively increase decoys to counter. Since decoys cost a tiny fraction of what interceptors cost, you can't ever win this race.
@barracuda7018
@barracuda7018 25 днів тому
That's true, its better to surrender to Putins Russia even he wants Alaska back, just obey him to prevent a nuclear war 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@danielkennedy2371
@danielkennedy2371 24 дні тому
GBI system definitely not great. However, the sea based SM-3 Block IIA program is very encouraging.
@skenzyme81
@skenzyme81 24 дні тому
@@danielkennedy2371 Still only good for only a rogue launch or too. Strategically, the interceptor concept totally fails in an actual nuclear war because interceptors cost hundreds of times as much as extra decoys. Intractable problem.
@danielkennedy2371
@danielkennedy2371 24 дні тому
​@@skenzyme81SPOILER: In the book, it's a rogue ICBM that the interceptors fail to shoot down. And it's the rogue detonation that causes the general nuclear exchange between the superpowers. The book NEEDS a failure to intercept a rogue nuke to set up the general nuclear exchange scenario.
@steves8482
@steves8482 24 дні тому
50% miss rate by interceptors? Maybe - it's a tough gig. However these interceptor missiles exist to guard against one or two launches from rogue states - generally seen as a more likely threat. No one in their right mind would think that 44 interceptors can deal with a massive Russian or Chinese attack - why is this even brought up as a serious issue?
@jmpattillo
@jmpattillo 23 дні тому
Exactly. It was BS propaganda when Putin said he needed to develop hypersonic glide vehicles to counter US ABM tech. He knows our interceptor program is intended for NK and Iran.
@thelastsaneman
@thelastsaneman 2 дні тому
Annie Jacobsen has that throaty, husky, relaxed voice that makes the most horrendous end of the World scenario seem so matter-of-fact and peaceful....🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿😎🇮🇱
@DocDanTheGuitarMan
@DocDanTheGuitarMan 18 днів тому
Have hypersonic missiles changed the timing?
@Jaywalker0617
@Jaywalker0617 6 днів тому
No because icbm's go up then come down and only have to travel about 300 miles or so to hit their target
@crashcrain
@crashcrain 21 день тому
Smart Author, she wrote a book on people's fears during a time when everyone is afraid. I love Nukes, it's going to suck if you ever hear the "Tang" sound that they create as metal explodes, but just for a fraction of a second. Seriously, don't worry about the Nukes, the day will come when they will be used, all weapons made eventually get used. Instead think about what you are going to do in the event you are lucky or unlucky enough to live?
@officialsimonharris
@officialsimonharris 2 дні тому
Why on earth is this pair talking about this dreadful scenario like they are enjoying it and borderline excited about it - the biggest tragedy in the history of humanity and they look like they couldn't be happier
@GRasputin91
@GRasputin91 День тому
I find it hard to believe that a single launch would lead to all-out war. At that point everyone would be freaking out like they usually do and engaging a massive military blockade or some such nonsense in order to convince them to stand down.
@katlidstone3918
@katlidstone3918 19 днів тому
Why do a handful of people get to decide our death? Today a few people brought us all closer to death. I do not give psychopaths' power over my life.
@michaelmcgowan7779
@michaelmcgowan7779 14 днів тому
It's always been that way.
@modestoconcrete
@modestoconcrete 7 днів тому
Because with 5 minutes warning {INF Europe days}....you don't have time to get/collate/organize the opinions of 300M people. 25 minutes for ICBMs? I SUPPOSE we could organize a FAST plebiscite at 2:02AM on any random Sunday.
@nilakshandissanayake1379
@nilakshandissanayake1379 5 днів тому
But do you have any say in this. We are all in the same boat
@katlidstone3918
@katlidstone3918 4 дні тому
@@nilakshandissanayake1379 I do as long as I say I do. You do, too.
@theschmedaparadox1018
@theschmedaparadox1018 23 дні тому
She sounds exactly like The Boss from MGS 3: Snake Eater which makes this so much more credible
@castlerock58
@castlerock58 19 днів тому
What is the point of briefing the president if he is senile?
@mdavidmullins
@mdavidmullins 19 днів тому
Luckily senile Trump is now out of office and hopefully will stay that way, so your question is hypothetical.
@codysaunders7348
@codysaunders7348 17 днів тому
​@@mdavidmullins the stupidity of your comment has been heard and understood by the world wide web. There is no doubt in anyone's mind, how senile Biden is, especially when compared to Trump. Yes, we get it. You have Trump derangement syndrome, but you seriously lie to yourself to this magnitude? I'm impressed. I'm not American and it seems like I know more about your presidents than you do. Kind of sad in that regard.
@jimshorts6751
@jimshorts6751 12 днів тому
​@@mdavidmullinsKeep fooling yourself. It's a good way to embrace stupidity ideology.
@jimshorts6751
@jimshorts6751 12 днів тому
​@libertyinperil520No borders ? That's the way you invite yourself into dangerous situations. Stop hiding behind YT and your living room. Take a vacation to Douglas AZ, the California border near TJ, or south Texas. You'll see an inordinate about of middle eastern and Chinese young men entering almost unfettered. Then read the ENTIRE "Rules for Radicals" and the tennents of Sharia Law. If you aren't concerned, you're ignoring the obvious.
@StudioLB
@StudioLB 12 днів тому
Well to be honest, it's why we voted DJT out
@RobertBrusOfficial
@RobertBrusOfficial 5 днів тому
What's missing here is that AGEIS. SM6 and SM3 are a shield and there are lots of them. On top of that you're missing the energy based systems.
@davidtatum8682
@davidtatum8682 2 години тому
This chick could lull me to sleep with tales of the apocalypse.
@danielkennedy2371
@danielkennedy2371 24 дні тому
Love Annie's books in general and this one in particular. However, she has two major blind spots in her narrative. First is regarding missile defense. Yes, the Alaska and California sites have limited numbers of interceptors (mostly due to treaty obligations). But I find it odd that she doesn't even mention the Navy's newfound ability to hit ICBMs with the new SM-3 Block IIA. It seems she could at least mention this capability rather than presenting only the evidence against missile defense. Similar with the nuclear winter thing. Yes, there are plenty of studies that say it will be bad. There are also plenty of studies that say it will be quite mild. On both of these issues, she presents a consensus that just isn't there. Great book otherwise! Don't read it at night though
@modestoconcrete
@modestoconcrete 7 днів тому
As an old nuclear guy way back when, she's trying to sell a book; good for her. But too many mistakes, too many oversights. It's why as a widebody Captain nearing retirement---I cannot read any news aviation articles any more. Utter bullshit spewed by people to impress people that know even less [if that's possible!].
@John77787
@John77787 14 днів тому
She needs to include y'all facts about what the positive are of nuclear weapons and treatments for exposure like ARS or ARP to truly understand and try and affect change. Listen to Ryan MacBeth.
@jmpattillo
@jmpattillo 23 дні тому
Her book ( and the inevitable movie) are important because of the conversations that will result. It’s important to realize how implausible her sequence of events is. NK launches a single ICBM at DC, and the US responds in minutes with scores of minuteman missiles that must overfly Russian airspace. This initiates a massive Russian strike, and a subsequent massive US response. It is implausible to the point of absurdity that our military hasn’t simulated many scenarios that avoid this escalation chain. What about our response coming from air-launched cruise missiles or SLBMs? There will certainly always be a US boomer submarine in the western Pacific. One could even imagine a scenario in which the US responds with a massive conventional attack
@deeratr
@deeratr 25 днів тому
Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth -luke 21
@frankadam1800
@frankadam1800 22 дні тому
Sarah Connor speaking - great interview.
@ChowZeb
@ChowZeb 15 днів тому
Prepare for the end, so scary
@elitetrader5468
@elitetrader5468 8 днів тому
You can't prepare. Just accept it could happen and enjoy every day before that if it does.
@SocioecologicalInterdependance
@SocioecologicalInterdependance 12 днів тому
China also has mobile launch platforms for missiles such as the hypersonic DF-41 even.
@bobmilin
@bobmilin 7 днів тому
This is my type of party girl.
@sinan2.71
@sinan2.71 15 днів тому
"The only way to win is not to play" is a good quote from a movie, but apparently we have some rogue actors out there saying "if can't get what I want, then we all die." Trying to squirm out of MAD for "reasons". As if they are holding the globe hostage. In that case, we die free.
@jblank74
@jblank74 24 дні тому
Thank you for interviewing her. I bought her book and I pray the people that have the power to end us all, read it, learn, and work to remove these horrible weapons from arsenals.
@darkwinter-lll
@darkwinter-lll 24 дні тому
They will never remove those weapons 😂
@user-iv4ht7ru2f
@user-iv4ht7ru2f 23 дні тому
They are all frightened as hell They are like as if going around with their trousers round their ankles
@williamgoh8640
@williamgoh8640 15 днів тому
Hi, in your opinion what is the likelihood of a nuclear war? And which country is most likely to use nuclear, given the most recent developments in IRAN-ISRAEL?
@modestoconcrete
@modestoconcrete 7 днів тому
Pakistan.100%.
@honeyb9118
@honeyb9118 День тому
She should do an instructional nuke disaster painting, kind of like Bob Ross, but with a not too happy ending.
@harminderjitgill571
@harminderjitgill571 3 дні тому
How come Nuclear Winter didn't happen from all the Nuke tests?
@rachelannkrueger7638
@rachelannkrueger7638 2 дні тому
One of the tests isn't enough for the smoke and fallout to cover the earth to dim the sun to cause a nuclear winter the test is only every few months apart maybe year apart . It would take multiple times like in hundreds or thousands of nuclear missiles at one time to cause a nuclear winter.
@honeyb9118
@honeyb9118 День тому
@@rachelannkrueger7638 There were thousands of these tests in the 50's and 60's.
@ArsenicShooter
@ArsenicShooter 15 днів тому
Love her voice, so pleasant and relaxing!
@stephenfawcett3805
@stephenfawcett3805 20 днів тому
Not if when
@charles2675
@charles2675 6 днів тому
HAPPENS. When we talk all the time of what leaders want
@robert-hh2ft
@robert-hh2ft 15 днів тому
wonder if annie has seen the bbc film war book?
@rogernam2092
@rogernam2092 18 днів тому
When you think about what kind of people sitting in the position to push the button around the world,it’s outright scary..!
@christiansmith-of7dt
@christiansmith-of7dt 25 днів тому
That's what my grandpa taught me when I was a child
@billmcqueen4263
@billmcqueen4263 23 дні тому
Wow what a voice Imagine if she hosted a late night radio show playing chill out blues or country ?
@edwindeas9457
@edwindeas9457 14 днів тому
Tell Annie Thank You. What the "Ostrich-People" don't admit is that even today, after all the Strategic Arms Reductions of the 'Nuclear Club', Global Thermonuclear War would be a Near-Extinction Level Event (E.L.E.) for Terran-Humanity. Also, I had it explained to me in the late 1970s that The U.S. shifted from a Second-Strike (Launch after Initial Attack) to Launch on Warning due to Soviet ICBMs becoming more accurate (Sub-500yds C.E.P.) & the Soviet Plan for a Time-On-Target (T.O.T.) Attack Scenario (Preemptive or otherwise). If you wait for your Enemies' Inbound Attack to begin hitting Target to physically verify a Nuclear Attack & your Attacker achieves a T.O.T of 05min. Or Less, you won't be able to Respond. GOD Help us All. Now then: Opinions are like Assholes, and I guess I just showed mine. Also, I agree that Launch On Warning is a Grevious Mistake & a Dangerous, Misleading Policy. I pray for the Men & Women of the Armed Forces for the burden of executing a Nuclear Attack Response. GOD Bless, Love and Protect the Peoples of Earth. Good Night.
@SovetUnion63
@SovetUnion63 4 дні тому
It was Madame de Pompadour, lover of Louis XV of France, said "After me the flood" in French of cause.
@DocDanTheGuitarMan
@DocDanTheGuitarMan 18 днів тому
Isn’t this timing problem part of Putins argument for not having NATO in Ukraine?
@Scott-hh3gh
@Scott-hh3gh 2 дні тому
She reminds me of the character, Professor Groeteschele from the film Fail Safe. BTW what are the odds that years ago, the Chicoms and Russians haven't slipped nukes into the country via lead lined shipping containers, and they're just parked around the country in major cities and near military bases? Port and customs officials can't be bought off to look the other way?
@rachelannkrueger7638
@rachelannkrueger7638 2 дні тому
I saw a tour video on one these missile silos they showed the steps and old technology they take to lunch minute man missiles. They use large floppy disk not the 3 whatever inch or the 5 what ever inches. They use larger ones i don't remember how much bigger but bigger than the 5 inch ones got two persons at the old computer from the 60s or something they have two nobs they have to turn at unicen then the missiles will start do the sequence to launch. That was interesting how its done then and still today it called a fail safe i believe why they still use that old technology.
@castlerock58
@castlerock58 19 днів тому
The closest we came to nuclear war was during the Cuban Missile Crisis when an insane US navy captain attacked a Soviet submarine by dropping depth charges on it. That was an act of war and the Soviet sub commander and political officer, between them, were authorized to launch a nuclear torpedo if attacked by the US navy. The commander wanted to launch the nuke at a US carrier and the political officer disagreed so the carrier didn't get nuked. Also, the Soviet commander in Cuba was cleared to use Frog tactical nuclear missiles to defend Cuba against a US invasion. If JFK had given the order to start WW III by invading Cuba, it would have gone nuclear in the first hour. That is worth considering with all the neocon lunatics advocating a NATO attack on Russia. The lesson of the Cuban Missile is that there may not even be a conventional phase to WW III. It could go nuclear immediately. The other close call was when the US was doing a nuclear exercise called Able Archer, in 1983, that the Soviets took for the real thing so they had their nuclear forces on high alert. Then the Russians had a glitch with their early warning system that gave them a false warning of a US ICBM launch. There was a Soviet officer with orders to launch on warning but he disobeyed orders and waited for conformation. He lost his job but he saved the world. The lesson of that close call is that it is dangerous to cause the other side to put their nuclear forces on high alert.
@barrillesmason919
@barrillesmason919 15 днів тому
The US destroyer dropped charges designed to tell the sub it knew where it was and it should surface. They were not depth charges designed to sink the sub. Please check your facts.
@martinMD
@martinMD 19 днів тому
This lady is a breath of fresh air. With honesty. The clock is ticking with Putin and the support he's having from the republican party in the USA
@trooperjinthewoods4538
@trooperjinthewoods4538 13 днів тому
It's not Putin that will launch on us. We will launch on them. It will be made to look like they launched on us. Or that is the plan anyways. Launch on warning is the mistake that will kill many of us. Nuclear winter is a myth. All that soot will be like cloud seeding and tons of precipitation will occur . They have already trained the population for nuclear war- stay at home ( lockdowns) - mask up ( don't breath in the pollution, fall out ,ash ) -stockpile supplies ( toilet paper )😅 -the wildfires of last year and this coming season was a test of the environment; to see how nuclear winter would behave ( so far so good ) we can handle it I think. The elite's know about this, that's why they are building bunkers right. Stockpile -enough food for at least 3 weeks absolute bare minimum. -have some quality dust masks and gloves on hand. -a water filter, pre-filters and a way to boil it. - soap , water -coveralls - garden tools, a good quality shovel to bury the dead - get some seeds of all types that will grow in your area and maybe some that will grow in slightly cooler weather and reduced grow time areas because climate will be wonky for a little bit. -tarps will be a good idea , many tarpaulins - duct tape It will be easy to over come and start over. Just stop and think about it realistically and stop listening to all the end of the world lazy people that don't want to put the effort into survival.
@elitetrader5468
@elitetrader5468 8 днів тому
What support is that?
@6Diego1Diego9
@6Diego1Diego9 16 днів тому
She's got a hot voice ❤
@irvinggoldberg5365
@irvinggoldberg5365 17 днів тому
⭐Stock up on precious metals (brass, copper, lead) while you can, from Winchester, Remington, etc.⭐
@Jaywalker0617
@Jaywalker0617 6 днів тому
If the world ends water food ammo fuel will be only thing worth bartering
@bobmiller4383
@bobmiller4383 2 дні тому
Things to think about.......container based nukes, hypersonic nukes, dirty bomb nukes smuggled in from the " open border" Or satelite nukes already in orbit...just waiting. That would be truly destructive because of the EMP . I don't think that an ICBM will be the first use choice
@honeyb9118
@honeyb9118 День тому
I would guess EMP would be the enemies first choice, no outright killing of millions. Implosion vs explosion. The country would implode in mere weeks, maybe just days. And I don't think that the country would respond in an escalatory manner, it might be near impossible to find out who delivered it. Just my opinion.
@kennaljo
@kennaljo 19 днів тому
A.J. is smiling on the link as she presents nuclear destruction.
@PhillipPaulPeter
@PhillipPaulPeter 8 днів тому
Why do UKposts want people to see this over your other videos? Strange they have pushed this at me multiple times and I’ve never viewed your channel before
@workingman223
@workingman223 18 днів тому
Look up.
@robert-hh2ft
@robert-hh2ft 15 днів тому
you cant intercept a mach 27 projectile
@modestoconcrete
@modestoconcrete 7 днів тому
Sprint had no problem, and did it in the 60s.
@daveeyes
@daveeyes 3 дні тому
There's a fine book about the US Interceptor squadron up in Alaska.
@tonydenofrio1424
@tonydenofrio1424 23 дні тому
Right, right, right, right, right, right, right
@yf1954
@yf1954 21 день тому
Right?
@jimshorts6751
@jimshorts6751 12 днів тому
"Realistically inform" through terror. The last 3 times we've been at high DEFCON's, we prevailed through cool minds and extreme luck. The world could've ended in the early 80's, over a computer mistake. Now youre embracing AI.
@bryandepaepe5984
@bryandepaepe5984 4 дні тому
The satellites detect infrared emissions, heat, and the amount of energy being emitted, ICBMs will emit distinct heat signatures from size of missile nozzle. The trajectory needs to be calculated but the missile needs to start to pitch over from vertical to begin the calculations with direction being determined quickly but distance will need to wait until near booster shutdown. Any detection false or not will take a minute of observation to assess before determining the threat of that detection. A single launch would not look like a first strike, it would take many simultaneous launches with ICBM heat signatures to start the defense process immediately while working on trajectory calculations to confirm an attack on US. The sub launch ballistic missile is hindered by the increased noise a larger nuclear powered sub makes and the very robust sonar net the US coasts have plus attack subs patrolling makes approaching the coast is difficult but not impossible. In times of increased tensions extra patrols will be assigned and the sonar net will be very attentive in real time, complacency is a main factor in letting foreign subs approach undetected until sonar records are reviewed catching the sub after the fact.
@atrayser
@atrayser 26 днів тому
Seems the immediate implication of this is the craziness of the ICBM system - that part of the triad should be eliminated because of how it encourages a use it or lose it scenario which directly leads to the 6 minute scenario which is pure insanity - if we could eliminate the ICBM systems, if the two main adversaries knew that their entire nuclear force were submarine based it would seem that would eliminate a first strike scenario - each side would know that the adversary would have full retaliatory capability intact - then the main issue at that point would be to design a system that could withstand an EMP scenario that might blind one side in a first strike- it seems a submarine based rather than air based or bunker based command center where a nation’s leader would be first taken by helicopter and some fail safe system to such a command center with instructions in case the leader of a nation does not make it of a system whereby someone is appointed by the president in charge of such a submarine based command center what do worked out in advance meticulous rules made to in case of a confirmed first strike - how to respond to make sure that deterrence remains a part of the MAD system - and not the “dead hand” scenario you mentioned in other discussions It seems we are living in a really crazy time right now so in need of this awareness before another Cuban missile crisis emerges as appears to be unfolding right now on the borders of Europe and our former adversary from the first Cold War which in those days although there was ideological battles they were not personalized - a respect was always maintained between leaders allowing for communication and compromise. There is such a craziness right now and a media that discourages thoughtfulness. Thank you so much for doing this - just hoping you can get the word out to as many platforms as possible. I love your passion and intelligence and eloquence and how you were able to get the cold warriors you interviewed to get their eloquent words to us and their worried as fears for the present.
@johnarchdeacon4578
@johnarchdeacon4578 7 днів тому
Logically everything you said makes sense. But nukes = power. The nuclear powers will never trust each other enough to lay down their icbms
@craigjackson8626
@craigjackson8626 14 днів тому
I listened to this book on audible. I thought she had AI read her book....nope just strange AI voice. Great Book...was hard to listen to her voice for hours.
@georgehunt182
@georgehunt182 24 дні тому
I’m a fan of hers and have three of her books- my favorite is Operation Paperclip. One loving critique is Annie has a tendency to find outdated research and write on it as if it’s recent and still relevant. This was the case in Surprise, Kill, Vanish. So I’m hesitant to buy more titles that have stale content- Overall, lots of respect for Annie! She’s talented, passionate, intelligent and weaves a very strong story. She consulted/produced on the Amazon series, Jack Ryan etc . Fascinating lady Ava’s happy to see her successes
@sideshowbilly3755
@sideshowbilly3755 23 дні тому
And a Chinese spy balloon traveled across the entirity of the US mainland. 😅
@rayhartpence1820
@rayhartpence1820 4 дні тому
But if they fire a E M P From a shipping container Off of a ship. In our own port Alll Bets are off
@charlesthompson8917
@charlesthompson8917 6 днів тому
Can't she get to the point and tell us the minute by minute breakdown?
@honeyb9118
@honeyb9118 День тому
You have to shell out $ for the book.
@melloone611
@melloone611 18 днів тому
I’ve listen to serval podcast with her on this last week. She definitely has that ASMR voice.. Maybe someone should send this to Iran?
@honeyb9118
@honeyb9118 День тому
Um, does she mention hypersonic missiles launched from a sub? Those have made it a whole new ball game. Sorry, I had to quit 1/3 of the way through, she was lulling me to sleep.
@podcastfan2544
@podcastfan2544 17 днів тому
The dude who directed BR 2049 bought the rights to make a film about this book
@sohailbilalahme
@sohailbilalahme 7 днів тому
Both strikers will be destroyed. Let’s see who chooses to be 1st striker
@AndrashSpooshkash
@AndrashSpooshkash 8 днів тому
Last night I dreamed of an angel wearing the same black glasses.
@christiansmith-of7dt
@christiansmith-of7dt 25 днів тому
Now you owe me even more money
@dmitryshusterman9494
@dmitryshusterman9494 18 днів тому
Omg, we got 20mins from the launch. You really did not know that? Theres absolutely nothing new or surprising in anything she said. The only surprise is she had to talk to all rhose high officials to learn what is available for a few mins of googling.
@elitetrader5468
@elitetrader5468 8 днів тому
Oh yeah because the information on the net is super reliable. JFC.
@issiacmoonstroller
@issiacmoonstroller 12 днів тому
Life is a Journey to Death. We were born to die. What does it matter how it happens?
@sweetkittiez
@sweetkittiez День тому
I hope I'm wrong but I think that nuclear war is inevitable at this point
@novascotianinfj
@novascotianinfj 14 днів тому
14:12 Russia just launched a Yars ICBM without warning any other countries.
@novascotianinfj
@novascotianinfj 14 днів тому
IQ is directly proportional to spectacle thickness.
@christiansmith-of7dt
@christiansmith-of7dt 13 днів тому
You guys are never going to get it until it's too late , join the club
@DucatiMTS1200
@DucatiMTS1200 15 днів тому
Did someone say the Martians were invading?🤔
@lancemarchetti8673
@lancemarchetti8673 11 днів тому
AI is our Friend
@thelastsaneman
@thelastsaneman 2 дні тому
Maybe it's just me, but the concept of nuclear war(and, personally, I'm of the opinion that some kind of global conflict is inevitable at this point) doesn't concern me as much as it should. Human beings, so I understand from the latest findings, have existed, in some form, for more than a million years. The number of people who have lived and died in all that time is virtually incalculable. We, who are alive today, have the unique opportunity to see, first hand, the potential end of the species, should any of the brushfires burning around the World get out of control. Is it just me, or does knowing that we may be witnesses to the twilight of humanity, somehow fill anyone else with excitement? Personally, I feel blessed to be here, at the beginning of the end...🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿😎🇮🇱
@willemjohannessmit9636
@willemjohannessmit9636 7 днів тому
Oh Annie J! While we wait for the NUCLEAR ICBM's to arrive, I have one last favour to ask...?
@justinmajewski2759
@justinmajewski2759 25 днів тому
This lady doesn't think aliens have been here after all the military testimony!
@modestoconcrete
@modestoconcrete 7 днів тому
So she's smart.
@justinmajewski2759
@justinmajewski2759 6 днів тому
@@modestoconcrete a bot
@stevendonohoe1807
@stevendonohoe1807 6 днів тому
Hmmmm so a writer that wrote for JACK RYAN Amazon studios is being sensational…… no one ever heard of marketing
@joaquinfabrega
@joaquinfabrega 12 днів тому
How come Russia was abled to detect the US missiles but not the launch of the North Korea ICBM? Even id Russian satellites and radars are not the best they should be able to detect something going from NK to the US
@Dragon4Soul
@Dragon4Soul 7 днів тому
My guess is they don't have the same amount of satellite coverage over Korea that they have watching the US
@modestoconcrete
@modestoconcrete 7 днів тому
It doesn't take long to re direct an IR staring array. Once nuclear flux is detected from space---I'd guess faster than any human could redirect their eyes. Vela provided fast awareness in the 60s.
@Rentokilolexusaicuxg
@Rentokilolexusaicuxg 6 днів тому
Nuclear MEANS nuclear. KLARISK
@kamaruddintahir8827
@kamaruddintahir8827 2 дні тому
The one in charge of nuclear weapon is a crocroache best friend, may be she knows where to hide
@Indrid__Cold
@Indrid__Cold 24 дні тому
I'm amazed that Ms. Jacobsen has the cheek to put her name on this book. It is nothing more than a slick repackaging of work done by Eric Schlosser, Daniel Ellsberg, and especially Alex Wellerstein. There is not one chapter of her book that doesn't "borrow" from those sources. I'm not saying the topic doesn't warrant serious study, but Jacobsen's book doesn't even attempt to answer any of the difficult questions as they relate to the nuclear war topic. For example, "How does the world effectively deal with a megalomaniac like Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, or Kim Jong Un?" She doesn't even try!
@mdavidmullins
@mdavidmullins 19 днів тому
She cites these sources right? - so I'm not seeing the problem. The scope of the book was not that of deterrence but rather a laying out of what happens when deterrence fails. It's a chilling, singularly focused book, and needs to be read by one and all. With a clearer understanding of the stakes, the hope is that more will be done to stand down, as a species, to hopefully embrace sanity. The how of this is for another book - or more likely another dozen books.
@Indrid__Cold
@Indrid__Cold 19 днів тому
@mdavidmullins Were Ms. Jacobsen less of a literary hack and more of an honest broker of facts, I might give her the benefit of the doubt. The fact is that her book on nuclear war brings NOTHING new to the table-NOTHING. Even her description of the effects of a one-megaton detonation over a city is "borrowed" content from the 1980s. An actual nuclear strike on a city with today's weapons will consist of pattern bombing of that city. But I digress. My real issue with Ms. Jacobsen's most recent work is that it implies that nuclear deterrence, a force for peace for the last seventy years, is somehow in need of revision. However, she offers NOTHING to replace it with! The implication is that bad actors like Vladimir Putin should simply be appeased, accommodated, or otherwise ass-kissed in order to avoid nuclear war. Such thinking ignores the effect of deterrence on every despot who manages to acquire nuclear weapons. It nullifies the fact that nuclear deterrence creates a "line in the sand" that one dares not cross.
@Adoubletrippletap
@Adoubletrippletap 5 днів тому
Trump was president for four years, no new wars, world mostly at peace. How was he a megalomaniac?
@Yodoyouwanttoseesomegaming
@Yodoyouwanttoseesomegaming 20 днів тому
This lady is an book writer , as she says she reads that is how she receives her information and retired old folks that use to work many years ago. Things have changed drastically . She wants our nation in panic . She has been saying all of this for YEARS . Only one book did well , she needs to make $$$ now she will talk to anyone that will listen.
@springer-qb4dv
@springer-qb4dv 19 днів тому
So what changed? Can USA anti missile now take out majority of incoming soviet nukes? Really?
@podcastfan2544
@podcastfan2544 17 днів тому
She's not a scientist she's a writer and a writer s job is to sell books She's got good book so what's wrong?
@darrenjones9359
@darrenjones9359 15 днів тому
You’re not exactly a Pulitzer Prize winner if your post is anything to go by.
@elitetrader5468
@elitetrader5468 8 днів тому
I get that you want to sleep at night. But the doomsday clock is 90 seconds to midnight and this has nothing to do with the author of the book.
@Yodoyouwanttoseesomegaming
@Yodoyouwanttoseesomegaming 3 дні тому
Doomsday has been ticking since the beginning of time. Nothing is going to happen in our life time and prob not even the next . I remember 50 years ago they were saying the day thing and other books were out about the same thing . Not saying we are not heading towards a deep depression or something that happened in 2007-2009
@user-cg2hk5pm3o
@user-cg2hk5pm3o 9 днів тому
I was just asking my son that about her voice he had really is sexy and soothing
@gabriele5719
@gabriele5719 19 годин тому
She’s clearly thinking in circles. I mean, I’ve read the book, it’s a well made, well researched piece of narrative. But what exactly is the point here? “Deterrence works until it not works anymore”. Yes. And hot water is hot. Congratulation for your precious discovery. Now, do you have something else to propose, instead of deterrence? If yes, we all are curious to know. If not, think we will stick to deterrence for the time being. Also, endless talking about “launch on warning”. Again: do you have a better policy to propose? Keep in mind: launch on warning is the only thing preventing a decapitation strike attempt from an adversary. You remove that, and you’re actually signaling “hey folks, why don’t you just try neutralize our decisional centers while we actually wait for one of your nukes to vaporize a bunch of millions our citizens, up the the CIC?” Yeah, what a great idea! Once again: does anyone has a better policy than MAD+Launch on Warning, in order to exercise deterrence? Or, has anyone something better to propose than deterrence itself?
@cindypatterson4429
@cindypatterson4429 22 дні тому
Where is Greta in all of this??? I guess it’s just so called the “climate crisis” that we need to be fearful of!
@ACharmedEarthling
@ACharmedEarthling 18 днів тому
You can be fearful of more than one thing. Both are massive risks to humanity that we ought to collectively be more concerned about than we are. I agree that nuclear war is a bigger risk, but the thing is, it's a hypothetical, where as climate change is definitely happening and progressively getting worse, even as we speak. I'm also worried about the threat of AI too, but that doesn't diminish every other looming crisis we're facing.
@daveeyes
@daveeyes 3 дні тому
"How dare you!?".
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