Antony Beevor on Putin’s Stalin-like blunders, Lenin and Hitler | interview

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Following Vladimir Putin's monologue on Russian history in his interview with Tucker Carlson, should our leaders try and learn from history? To discuss, Steven Edginton is joined by the historian Antony Beevor.
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@kitiowa
@kitiowa 2 місяці тому
Plain intelligent conversation just never loses it's relevance. I truly appreciate a competent interviewer as well as the subject.
@asdg2271
@asdg2271 Місяць тому
😂
@adamdejardinier356
@adamdejardinier356 Місяць тому
A pleasure to listen to. No gimmicks to corner the other side, no egos or self-promotion. Just calm but engaging discussion based on merit. A bit worrying though but I guess it's better to know the truth and think what we can do with it rather than deny it and pray for rain.
@alfonsasgrinevicius7477
@alfonsasgrinevicius7477 Місяць тому
Absolutely right. Greetings from Lithuania, Kaunas.
@AlBarzUK
@AlBarzUK Місяць тому
@@adamdejardinier356 A prayer for rain in this neck of the woods, Adam, has connotations of the tautological! 😅
@danwright1794
@danwright1794 Місяць тому
Russias win this conflict . It’s just math . Known for quite awhile. Enough of narrative driven politics
@kaiserflanderson2632
@kaiserflanderson2632 2 місяці тому
Fantastic interview. Huge props to the interviewer and to Beevor, very interesting and nuanced discussion.
@JohnPretty1
@JohnPretty1 2 місяці тому
An Establishment shill.
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 2 місяці тому
Bot
@gilh3947
@gilh3947 2 місяці тому
watch out for the CO2 problems in your petersburg cellar ivanskitrollski@@VladPutin88
@user-jp1ge5nb2f
@user-jp1ge5nb2f 2 місяці тому
@@VladPutin88 Definite Zedbot.
@zulubeatz1
@zulubeatz1 2 місяці тому
Extremely refreshing to hear from someone with intelligence and knowledge that can offer something that is divorced from the usual media & political hysterics. I have read several of Mr Beevor's books, and although I have not always agreed with some of his observations, he is streets ahead of the usual commentators. I am also certain he saw this conflict coming some time ago. This is an astute interview with a wisdom rich historian who has some accurate & valid information to share here.
@coimbralaw
@coimbralaw 2 місяці тому
“Streets ahead?” What a bizarre phrase to use.
@trojanthedog
@trojanthedog 2 місяці тому
​@@coimbralawNot to a native English speaker.
@MrLJT1
@MrLJT1 2 місяці тому
@@trojanthedogYup busted!
@flyingisaac2186
@flyingisaac2186 Місяць тому
@@coimbralaw worry about stuff in your native Moscow/St Petes bot.
@MikeWal2
@MikeWal2 Місяць тому
​@@flyingisaac2186The name of the person that made that comment indicates that they are Portuguese. So not a bot, just not a native English speaker. [Coimbra is a University town in Central Portugal].
@caseytaylor1487
@caseytaylor1487 2 місяці тому
Excellent interview! It terrifies me how little we teach of history and how little the general populace knows and understands about history!
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw 2 місяці тому
Very true. That leads to populistic moronic slogans like "Two world wars and one world cup doo dah." 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 The German national football team has gone a bit off the boil recently, admittedly, but Germany has lost count of the number of world cups it's won. France 🇫🇷 and Les Bleus won in 1998 and 2018. They lost the final on penalties even after Mbappe's incredible hat trick. Two world wars and two world cups.....France 😂🤣😅😆 Four (?) World cups and NO world wars doo dah ...Germany 🇩🇪🇩🇪😂🤣😅😆😁
@catinthehat906
@catinthehat906 2 місяці тому
Those British films they keep alluding to presumably- The Great Escape, The Dambusters and Reach for the Sky were all adapted from books written by an Australian, Paul Brickhill.
@georgesheffield1580
@georgesheffield1580 2 місяці тому
Especially in the USA
@jgdooley2003
@jgdooley2003 Місяць тому
I have great concern for the marginalisation of the teaching of history in Irish educational system more in favour of STEM subjects. Similar emphasis shift is probably happening across Europe. Any society needs a repository of history and people to teach it and detect and challenge lies and half-truths which will arise to justify evil actions carried out by states and factions to their own ends.
@backgammonbacon
@backgammonbacon Місяць тому
The populace knows just as much as it always did this is just an old man shouting at clouds.
@ronmcdonald5952
@ronmcdonald5952 2 місяці тому
I could listen to Sir Anthony all day. I've got most of his books and read Stalingrad twice. Excellent... More please
@ttrons2
@ttrons2 2 місяці тому
rubbish
@gilh3947
@gilh3947 2 місяці тому
no need to try trollie, we all know how it works. So find yourself another hobby.@@ttrons2
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw 2 місяці тому
Anthony Beevor is a very balanced and grounded historian. His knowledge of WW2 is vast and encyclopaedic. The little shill from the Torygraph on the other hand, sounds like a six year old.
@MrLJT1
@MrLJT1 2 місяці тому
yes definately not an intellectual lightweight and Russian apologist like Emil Cosman.
@ytcf7781
@ytcf7781 Місяць тому
All of the audiobooks are available here on YT now, they're amazing to sleep to every night.
@cindymaceda2999
@cindymaceda2999 2 місяці тому
I could listen to these two superior intellects all day ! Gracias, The Telegraph.
@boxlabs
@boxlabs 2 місяці тому
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jackspring7709
@jackspring7709 2 місяці тому
Superior intellects. That conflict has been going on for 10 years. Too many of our superior intellects don't seem to want to talk about the first 8 years. Its a pity that more people don't look into why that is.
@morstyrannis1951
@morstyrannis1951 2 місяці тому
@@jackspring7709 "Too many of our superior intellects don't seem to want to talk about the first 8 years" Prigozhin explained the entire conflict before being assassinated. Ukraine is being invaded to enrich the oligarchs and give Shoigu some bogus claim to military glory. The reasons for ruSSia's invasion is just as simple as that - greed and hubris.
@sakttan
@sakttan Місяць тому
Steven Edginton was the chief digital strategist for "Leave Means Leave," the pro-Brexit, Eurosceptic political pressure group that campaigned and lobbied for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union following the 'Leave' result of the EU referendum on 23 June 2016. Leave Means Leave was chaired by British property entrepreneur Richard Tice and business consultant John Longworth. The vice-chairman was leader of the Brexit Party, Nigel Farage. Anthony Beevor is the only superior intellect in this video.
@gargoyle7863
@gargoyle7863 Місяць тому
@@boxlabs whats so funny? Your stupidity?
@evanmurphy2473
@evanmurphy2473 2 місяці тому
How can something be so interesting and so depressing at the same time.
@pjl8119
@pjl8119 2 місяці тому
It's Russia. Depressing and interesting is what they do.
@cindymaceda2999
@cindymaceda2999 2 місяці тому
@@pjl8119 Touché ! 😂
@TheKievKen
@TheKievKen 2 місяці тому
@@pjl8119Depressing yes.
@naguerea
@naguerea 2 місяці тому
Nicely put Evanmurphy24783
@de6584
@de6584 2 місяці тому
Yes, the NATO proxy war is a brutal failure.
@WonderMagician
@WonderMagician 2 місяці тому
Anthony Beevor is atreasure trove of historical information. Thanks for an outstanding interview,
@hassanas-sabbagh6562
@hassanas-sabbagh6562 Місяць тому
Antony not Anthony.
@francescahamilton6856
@francescahamilton6856 2 місяці тому
Excellent...Antony Beevor must be the best Military Historian we have in England. Such an inspiration to listen to him. Thanku.
@WingkKong
@WingkKong 2 місяці тому
Ajp taylor far better
@PKowalski2009
@PKowalski2009 2 місяці тому
I don't know if he is the best. But, he is great!
@pauldoree3967
@pauldoree3967 Місяць тому
Don't forget Max Hastings
@mcbrider53
@mcbrider53 Місяць тому
Too bad the interviewer couldn't care less about what the empire contributed. Very English-centric. Beevor is just fine.
@WingkKong
@WingkKong Місяць тому
@@pauldoree3967 his book is ordinary
@vladmykhnenko75
@vladmykhnenko75 2 місяці тому
What an absolutely splendid interview! Bravo to both participants 👏
@Northcountry1926
@Northcountry1926 Місяць тому
@VladPutin88 MAGA Troll
@fayabogush2956
@fayabogush2956 2 місяці тому
I could listen to Antony Beevor for hours. Have all his books, he is a treasure. So much knowledge, great memory, ability to link the past with present time - not every historian is willing to do so.
@joyaroy8532
@joyaroy8532 2 місяці тому
But I find him very biased... By a peculiar type of Russophobia not born from Soviet occupation or oppression that other Europeans have experienced. That channel NEVER mentions Ukrainian Banderites' holocausts on 100,000 Poles in Volyn, banning of Hungarian and Russian languages in Ukraine or their murders and the US-orchestrated coup in 2014, training of Ukranian neo-nasties although the BBC itself featured these things in its own documentaries seven years ago. Bias, lies of omission, prejudice and erhnic phobia do not make a historian great.
@gattingbowledwarne
@gattingbowledwarne Місяць тому
I’m reading Berlin again for the umpteenth time. Tremendous writing
@chrismerkel9604
@chrismerkel9604 2 місяці тому
Sir Antony Beevor what a great perspective/knowledge of history!
@tonybennett3904
@tonybennett3904 2 місяці тому
Got to say Mr Beevor's book Staingrad is the most incredible thing i have read,incredible in so many ways.
@ray.shoesmith
@ray.shoesmith 2 місяці тому
"THAT'S WHAT BERLIN WILL LOOK LIKE!"
@Forest_Knight
@Forest_Knight 2 місяці тому
We need more historians
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 2 місяці тому
Yes. More Historians. Fewer PROPAGANDA MERCHANTS
@IrishTechnicalThinker
@IrishTechnicalThinker 2 місяці тому
Mark Felton, Kings and Generals, Epic History, History OverSimplified and more...... check them all out.
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 2 місяці тому
​@@IrishTechnicalThinker Oh ... I have..
@dannydadog1987
@dannydadog1987 2 місяці тому
Try @Savage Sage 😆
@zulubeatz1
@zulubeatz1 2 місяці тому
Especially ones like this who understand how to relate to it and not wield it as a weapon to try to prove a viewpoint.
@kallekas8551
@kallekas8551 2 місяці тому
I have read all of Beevor’s books… extraordinarily talented writer and historian. I have enormous respect for any views he has.
@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311
@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311 2 місяці тому
Why? All he does is human interest stories with no analysis, he's a light weight popular historian, not a researcher, not an original thinker, not an expert on Russia.
@kallekas8551
@kallekas8551 2 місяці тому
@@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311 Didn’t think so…🤣
@gilh3947
@gilh3947 2 місяці тому
fjdkfodpjaknefnviiekenjkenknikeiiwudidfj (= a transcription of your brain)@@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311
@Mr_Squiggle
@Mr_Squiggle 2 місяці тому
A really good interview, more if this please.
@zulubeatz1
@zulubeatz1 2 місяці тому
I agree. Very engaging and interesting. In fact, I applauded certain at moments.
@philiprufus4427
@philiprufus4427 2 місяці тому
A lot better than interviews with the legion of 'BAMPOTS,' on UKposts who seem to think Putin is The Savior of The World.
@helennuttall6051
@helennuttall6051 2 місяці тому
What a brilliant interview. History is very important and not least in helping to shape the future. I do hope our leaders watch this.
@cindymaceda2999
@cindymaceda2999 2 місяці тому
There is a gap in American education: it is History. 😮 Those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it.
@wishusknight3009
@wishusknight3009 2 місяці тому
@@cindymaceda2999 American education has more gaps than history.
@j.dunlop8295
@j.dunlop8295 2 місяці тому
This is Putin's seventh time attacking another country, our politicians are wishful thinkers, and minions of the rich, mostly!
@cutebee6981
@cutebee6981 2 місяці тому
I love it when he mentioned Kievan Rus
@edward6902
@edward6902 2 місяці тому
kyivan-rus
@heycidskyja4668
@heycidskyja4668 2 місяці тому
Me too. I'm a woman and came up in a froth when it was mentioned.
@paulheydarian1281
@paulheydarian1281 2 місяці тому
​@@heycidskyja4668 Like a frothy tart...??? 🤔😏
@dannydadog1987
@dannydadog1987 2 місяці тому
EDIT: I listened to this twice and never once heard the term Kyivan Rusj. At what minute was that please?
@longandshort6639
@longandshort6639 2 місяці тому
@@heycidskyja4668what kind of froth? Ovulation?
@Inspectergadget69
@Inspectergadget69 2 місяці тому
I had to share this on FaceBook...I only expect a few people to listen to a historian where the interview is more than 5 minutes but I think that it is well worth listening to the whole interview. It might be an interesting challenge to see if any of my 'friends' actually take the trouble to listen to the whole interview and comment on it. I loved it and learnt quite a bit.
@Baldrick-ce9nd
@Baldrick-ce9nd 2 місяці тому
Yes, it is worth listening to, but I fear my friends can't be bothered if I was to share. Love them dearly, but in-depth politics or history unfortunately loses to gossip on the royals or Tyler Swift. I was lucky, I had an amazing history teacher. Kudos to the teachers that teach in an atmosphere of STEM subjects only.
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863 Місяць тому
Brilliant. This is the level of understanding and reason we should all strive to achieve.
@barryobee1544
@barryobee1544 2 місяці тому
It was a pleasure listening to this discussion…👍
@pendleburyable
@pendleburyable 2 місяці тому
Great Antony,thankyou for your insight,again.
@ralphhardie7492
@ralphhardie7492 2 місяці тому
What an extraordinary interview... I'll be back and get notes. Really extraordinary historian Thanks Thanks 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@lindas2531
@lindas2531 Місяць тому
At last an English person who undersatands Russia and Ukraine and the absurd of everything that Pootin is saying, not to mention the sheer evil of the Russians
@thomasbernecky2078
@thomasbernecky2078 2 місяці тому
an hour well spent. And I never knew of Marcus Aurelius Clarkus; nickname, which is perfect. Thanks Sir Anthony.
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy Місяць тому
I've heard that he was called by the troops "Mark-Time Clark" as he would advance to a pre-determined position and not use initiative and take further advantage of the situation if it was available.
@mathildestoltz7327
@mathildestoltz7327 2 місяці тому
Beevor is one of the best historians we have.
@mikewingert5521
@mikewingert5521 2 місяці тому
Erudite and urbane in the extreme…
@seamusweber8298
@seamusweber8298 2 місяці тому
Agreed, and his books are filled with facts and are highly highly informative. The man is a national treasure
@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311
@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311 2 місяці тому
LOL he's a lightweight who writes popular history books
@mikewingert5521
@mikewingert5521 2 місяці тому
@@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311 ….Your first language isn’t even English.
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 2 місяці тому
@@seamusweber8298Highly selective facts
@kensedgers5632
@kensedgers5632 2 місяці тому
Great questions ! Best interview with Beevor I've seen...
@dongira2384
@dongira2384 2 місяці тому
Very interesting, too bad the whole world will not hear his lessons. The russians would be in great need of that ....
@imperatorvespasian3125
@imperatorvespasian3125 2 місяці тому
Russians understand history better than any European
@geraldrada
@geraldrada 2 місяці тому
I dear say, the Russian is not one to learn from listening or even reading. Their oriental streak pulls them towards poetry, in the literature field, and towards bloodshed, when they disagree with someone. They are terribly fond of learning by doing...Meaning they learn whenever they get a bloody nose.
@Gatorhammer
@Gatorhammer 2 місяці тому
Enjoyed that.
@KW-hk2jd
@KW-hk2jd 2 місяці тому
Young people who don’t know history will be doomed to repeat it. Oh how I wish I could be there to see it.
@sandypastiche173
@sandypastiche173 2 місяці тому
Utterly brilliant ❤
@greatdickens
@greatdickens Місяць тому
How refreshing to have an interviewer who has some knowledge of the subject matter. There should be more of it,.
@christopherdew2355
@christopherdew2355 2 місяці тому
Steven Edginton has certainly gone a long way towards redressing the paucity of his historical studies! A remarkably well prepared interview with a pretty magisterial command of the subject matter. Well done, and looking forward to more!
@stevenpace892
@stevenpace892 2 місяці тому
As an American in defence of the quality UK generals, I would point out the UK infantry was not in a position to take casualties like American infantry. The regiment system meant that replacements had to be from their regiment. Also, years of war meant the UK was tapped out. Patton's brutal aggression could not have been applied in the UK forces the same way.
@petercollingwood522
@petercollingwood522 2 місяці тому
Neither the British nor American Generals or Russins for that matter were particularly fantastic compared to the Germans. Primarily the Allies won because of their overwhelmeing numerical and material superiority and the Germans lost in spite of their Generals for the same reason.
@jthunders
@jthunders 2 місяці тому
​@@petercollingwood522John Ellis "Brute Force" about this exact subject.
@mcbrider53
@mcbrider53 Місяць тому
As a Canadian, my forebears would be appalled to hear their sacrifices ignored by both the USA and UK versions of the war. This interview was SO brit-centric.
@shaunroche3280
@shaunroche3280 Місяць тому
I agree - a British Knight of the Realm, interviewed by a British Journalist from a British Newspaper...had these been American, I doubt they would even have mentioned Canada In my experience, your forebears' sacrifices are not ignored or played down in the UK, quite the opposite, it's just they are not relevant in this particular interview context....@@mcbrider53
@89RealThe
@89RealThe Місяць тому
​@@petercollingwood522no
@techalgia
@techalgia 2 місяці тому
My favourite military books author ❤
@techalgia
@techalgia 2 місяці тому
@@AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv What? a) I'm using tis account all the time b) Antony Beevor is mi favourite military history books writer - my first book that I read in English was his Spanish Civil War (at the time it wasn't available in Polish) c) what's your point?
@AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv
@AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv 2 місяці тому
@@techalgia the account has 5 comments in total, for a 12yo account, they must have been epic. 😅
@brendanoneil3489
@brendanoneil3489 2 місяці тому
I'm a bot honest @@AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv
@pjmlegrande
@pjmlegrande 2 місяці тому
Very detailed and interesting history of Battle of the Bulge
@JukkaKatajamaki
@JukkaKatajamaki 2 місяці тому
I'm glad Antony is doing well. I have almost every book he's ever written. My favorite historian.
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 2 місяці тому
I used to chat with a French Historian and Author Anton Joly whom is an expert on Battle of Stalingrad. I asked him about Antony Beevor's book on Stalingrad as I personally enjoyed it and he told me it was so bad it could almost be considered fan fiction. He said Beevor was worthless academically and purely pop history. Which is probably true but his books are so interesting and easy to read it makes WW2 much more accessible to the masses.
@jthunders
@jthunders 2 місяці тому
Why is Joly better than Beevor
@mikelanglow-bi2sv
@mikelanglow-bi2sv 2 місяці тому
A privilege listening to your interview with Mr Beavers ❤
@user-zb9lv3gh8s
@user-zb9lv3gh8s 2 місяці тому
(Beevor)
@kocyszemaitis2310
@kocyszemaitis2310 2 місяці тому
Mr.Beevor is a history GOAT (tied with Kotkin).
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 2 місяці тому
Both of them are antidote to the moronic pro-Putin Meerscheimer.
@Conn30Mtenor
@Conn30Mtenor 2 місяці тому
There are others at his tier. Margaret McMillan, Richard Frank.
@roygfs
@roygfs 2 місяці тому
A. J. P. Taylor anyone?
@cindymaceda2999
@cindymaceda2999 2 місяці тому
But who in the next generation will take up their mantel???😢
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 2 місяці тому
He’s a lightweight
@guydreamr
@guydreamr 2 місяці тому
Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. - George Santayana
@bornatona3954
@bornatona3954 2 місяці тому
Everybody forget, everything repeat,lots of lies,endlessly.....
@randylahey1822
@randylahey1822 День тому
"The only thing we learn from history is that nobody learns from history".
@guydreamr
@guydreamr День тому
@@randylahey1822 Yes, Warren Buffett said it best.
@heathclark318
@heathclark318 День тому
Fantastic interview and conversation. Truly appreciate it and would like to see more from knowledgeable individuals like Mr Beevor
@lechiffre1914
@lechiffre1914 24 дні тому
Such a fascinating man and a legendary historian. A respectful young journalist interviewing Sir Antony as well.
@tobydorman3998
@tobydorman3998 2 місяці тому
Great talk. Thanks
@jarredschwandner4115
@jarredschwandner4115 2 місяці тому
Great interviewer really good lines of questions. Thanks
@geoffreyevans3031
@geoffreyevans3031 14 днів тому
What a wonderful debate. So rare to see people debate the issue and not the man. Well done.
@alfonsasgrinevicius7477
@alfonsasgrinevicius7477 Місяць тому
I appreciate such interesting conversations--- studded with facts and data. We, Lithuanians , escaped the USSR in 1990 . Later other subjugated nations followed suit. If we hadn't joined the NATO in 2004 ---Orcs would have assaulted us , East Baltic states .
@luistilli2328
@luistilli2328 27 днів тому
The Russians ( not all ofcourse) are Mongols...
@marcvangastel2157
@marcvangastel2157 2 місяці тому
"The only thing we learn from history is that nobody learns from history".
@pepechen
@pepechen Місяць тому
Yes!, we needed Beevor to comment on the latest ruski mess, brilliant idea to bring him on.
@lubumbashi6666
@lubumbashi6666 Місяць тому
Such a clear thinking man, incredible to listen to, even better to read.
@clivethompson9375
@clivethompson9375 2 місяці тому
GREAT INTERVIEW, GOOD LISTNING, POLITE AND VERY PROFFESIONAL, ITS SO GOOD TO SEE A YOUNG PERSON WITH MANNERS, = READ MANY BOOKS AND LEARN CONTEXT FROM WORLD HISTORY.
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 Місяць тому
Fascinating interview with a great historian who I may not always agree with but I do respect. People sometimes say ‘oh why bother with WW2 we already know all there is to know about it’. But they are wrong there are huge amounts of information in archives around the world that could change our view on the subject. In just Moscow the Russians have lots of information on not just the Soviet side of WW2 but also on the German and East European people, actions and events pre, during and post WW2. It’s the same for the Cold War period there is so much we don’t know and in some areas probably will never know. Re Churchill I agree with Antony Beevor I’ve always seen him as a 19th century man living in the mid 20th century. He had the Imperialist, upper class views of his upbringing. That came through with his attitude to India and the other colonies and at home when he said if Labour won the 45 election they would bring in some form of Gestapo. This after spending much of the war working with Clement Attlee and other Labour politicians who had worked tirelessly to run things in Britain during the war.
@OrnumCR
@OrnumCR Місяць тому
Fascinating. I concur with a lot of Mr Beevor’s points, especially context which is often forgotten about in contemporary points-of-view on World War 2 in particular.
@DaboooogA
@DaboooogA Місяць тому
Great discussion - need more of these eminent historians and less social media grifters.
@FulmenTheFinn
@FulmenTheFinn 2 місяці тому
Props to the interviewer for asking a couple of questions of his own personal interest at around the 19:30 mark. Beevor's answer about the Whites went into many of the same things I've been talking about to people for years. Especially the Whites' lack of foresight and unanimity to ally the Poles, Finns and Estonians was a major blunder that probably cost them the war against the Bolsheviks.
@thomasobrien5997
@thomasobrien5997 2 місяці тому
Loved this interview tks
@LumenP1023
@LumenP1023 2 місяці тому
We need more historians AND better history curriculum here in the free world.
@CYGNO
@CYGNO 2 місяці тому
Brilliant. Great job both. Important interview.
@johnwilliams-gz4ss
@johnwilliams-gz4ss 2 місяці тому
Excellent.
@kinwingwu6442
@kinwingwu6442 2 місяці тому
😮 educating information
@georgewood100
@georgewood100 18 днів тому
Great interview expected no less from Beevor.
@philippedefechereux7896
@philippedefechereux7896 2 місяці тому
Antony Bevoor is the best! Great interview, too.
@owensthilaire8189
@owensthilaire8189 2 місяці тому
One of my favorite authors.
@Wolf-hh4rv
@Wolf-hh4rv 2 місяці тому
I disagree with Beevor, Stalin did not recognise the allied bombing of Germany as a second front. Stalin was vocal in asking for a second front as soon as possible, and in that he expected nothing less than an allied army landing on the European continent. He repeatedly voiced frustration over this being delayed. The bombing campaign certainly was a second front, in 1944 there were 7500 88mm anti-aircraft guns defending the Reich. Russia’s fleet of T34s would have made no progress against that number of anti-tank guns. I also felt his apportioning of the contribution of Britain to victory in WW2 was not clearly articulated. Britain’s role was the supremacy of the Royal Navy, the offensive power of the RAF and the Enigma code breaking. We must not forget that Germany’s planned Kursk offensive in 1943 , was identified and the information passed on to Stalin directly. This played a big role in Russia concentrating their forces in the Kursk salient.
@wadestclair249
@wadestclair249 2 місяці тому
Well the US had to build up to a second front regardless of how impatient Stalin was. Plus to soften the under belly of the axis first in Africa and then Italy. Our military was really in shambles by the time we were attacked on dec 7th. Stalin failed to listen to his own people, telling him that germany was going to attack. His own spies knew the exact day and he refused to listen thinking it was absurd for germany to break their Molotov- Ribbentrop pact of nonagression. Stalin received a ton of US lend-lease to hold off the eastern front - 400,000 jeeps & trucks 14,000 airplanes 8,000 tractors 13,000 tanks We were fighting two fronts don't forget one in Europe and one in the Asian pacific simultaneously.
@Nik-jq4tx
@Nik-jq4tx 2 місяці тому
​@@wadestclair249Massive land-lease started only in 1943 after the battles of Stalingrad ans Kursk.
@anthonyburns1169
@anthonyburns1169 2 місяці тому
Yes true Stalin was frustrated to the point he stormed out of a meeting with Churchill in Moscow calling the British cowards. It was Churchill who famously got Stalin’s attention by showing him the Linderman terror bombing campaign plans as a compromise (infamously known for deliberating targeting the working class areas of Hamburg because people lived close together in small apartments so they could kill more people with less bombs)
@alexanderpeskin7050
@alexanderpeskin7050 Місяць тому
It's not Stalin's ignorance what resulted in Russian problems at the beginning of German invasion. He was about to attack Germany and occupy the whole Europe but Hitler outsmarted Stalin. Read the book "Icebreaker" which provides facts and documents proving this scenario.
@Fin4L6are
@Fin4L6are 29 днів тому
@@Nik-jq4tx and how much was supplied in 1941 and 1942?
@hakangustavsson3538
@hakangustavsson3538 23 дні тому
An absolutely splendid conversation. I listened in awe and with sheer delight. Pure luxury!
@sergezahin3397
@sergezahin3397 2 місяці тому
Great stuff! And in order to understand what kind of beliefs Russians might have, imagine that in one action, at the same time, these people can carry images of the last Tzar Nikolas and Stalin.
@invisipics
@invisipics 2 місяці тому
What I would have liked to ask was his take on why the US and Britain allowed Stalin to keep so much of Eastern Europe at the end of World War II, because this is, I think, the source of all our present geopolitical woes. Especially with the ultimate bargaining chip of the nuclear bomb in hand at the time.
@imperatorvespasian3125
@imperatorvespasian3125 2 місяці тому
because your perspective on history is warped by 70 year old propaganda
@josephberrie9550
@josephberrie9550 2 місяці тому
churchhill told roosevelt about stalins real plans and the president went behind his back and done a deal with stalin at the yalta conference and let the russians take berlin Patton and montgomery saw this as a huge mistake but was pulled back by roosevelt and told to stay on the west side of the elbe river the russian army was way bigger at the end of the european war may 45 the plan was for the russians to attack japan through mongolia whithin three months of the end of the european war and trap the japanese in a huge pincer movement and save american lives in an invasion of mainland japan...it was a very complicated time and the russians were seen as allies at that time who had lost twenty million people in the german russian war
@newliferadio3918
@newliferadio3918 Місяць тому
Truman should have listened to Patton. He knew what to do, but was obviously held back by a weary General staff and tired American public that just wanted to end it and get out.
@massimozanasi
@massimozanasi Місяць тому
27 million Russians who died for your freedom perhaps
@davidbrimson83
@davidbrimson83 Місяць тому
They 'allowed' the Russians to dominate eastern Europe because they had little choice, the Russians were in possession of the ground and neither the UK (which was bankrupt) nor the USA (who felt they'd sacrificed enough) were willing to take on the USSR. In addition, many in both countries already understood the sacrifices made by the Red Army and would have been difficult to convince of the justice of another war. Finally, Stalin had convinced Roosevelt and Truman in his turn that he ( Stalin) was a reasonable man with whom they 'could do business.' Both recognised that the USSR would be the dominant power in Europe. BTW, the agreements on 'spheres of influence' had been decided before the atomic bombs had been dropped on Japan; in fact Roosevelt persuaded Stalin to enter the war against Japan because he did not understand just how destructive atomic weapons would prove to be.
@SubTroppo
@SubTroppo 2 місяці тому
This reminds me of Mad Magazine's 'Spy versus Spy' as the discussion demonstrates that world affairs seemingly constitutes myth versus myth. The greatest military weapon is deception, but one has to keep in mind that self-deception is perhaps more common - Germany's "stab in the back' being perhaps one of the best examples of an incorrect perception of events that led to an absolute disaster for humanity.
@user-ck6bf3ke1w
@user-ck6bf3ke1w Місяць тому
Excellent interview, I watched it twice!
@2Dylandog
@2Dylandog 2 місяці тому
Strange; the Royal Navy (rightfully) gets mentioned and patted on the back, but apart from the bombing campaigns later in the war, the RAF is ignored. What about "so many oweing so much to so few"?
@brendanoneil3489
@brendanoneil3489 2 місяці тому
I do think Bomber command, who took such severe losses got badly judged by the later revisionists. Avoid war at all costs, but it only works on 'beast' mode, and being severe may have reduced the Axis war effort despite the scatter-gun approach to collateral damage.
@2Dylandog
@2Dylandog 2 місяці тому
@@brendanoneil3489 I'm sorry to disagree here : Bomber Harris, no doubt rubberstamped by a war-weary Prime Minister, has much to answer for in bombing Dresden at such a late stage in the war. The human loss involved as much as the countless buildings of architectural merit it destroyed was totally unnecessary. Even Hitler did not allow the Luftwaffe to bomb Oxford and Cambridge.
@Wolf-hh4rv
@Wolf-hh4rv 2 місяці тому
Yes Beevor failed to drive home the vast resources Germany had to commit to fight the battle of the Atlantic and defend the Reich from bombing by the RAF
@petercollingwood522
@petercollingwood522 2 місяці тому
I think that was implied in the context of early resitance to the Germans.
@trek520rider2
@trek520rider2 2 місяці тому
@@brendanoneil3489 Also, per Beever in this talk, the bombing campaign meant AA weapons were taken away from the eastern front thereby helping Stalin because AA guns could be used against tanks.
@daydays12
@daydays12 2 місяці тому
Up to 20:20 very interesting ...and then started to become boring so I stopped listening . I think Antony Beevor's book about the 'Russian' civil war ( a lot of it happened in Ukraine) sounds well worth reading. I am pleased he was able to have access to Ukrainian archives.
@reddog5031
@reddog5031 Місяць тому
The book is a bit dense, doesn't cover Trotskys' train wars the way I hoped.
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 Місяць тому
Anthony beevor is a top notch historian his book on Stalingrad is superb and his recent one on the Russian civil war 1917 to 1921 is excellent too
28 днів тому
I loved reading Mr. Beevor's work. He is one of the great historians of all time. We are fortunate to have such a distinguished scholar at this difficult time.
@fredtorres1703
@fredtorres1703 27 днів тому
I remember history class was boring during elementary school, but as I matured I recognized how important it is. It is crucial that it be acuarate and true. Everything from government, legislation, even technology depends on it.
@dennismorris7573
@dennismorris7573 Місяць тому
Sir Antony James Beevor quite brilliant, indeed. Fascinating interview.
@lievenvanlint7717
@lievenvanlint7717 2 місяці тому
Hi great interview. Thanks for sharing. My observation is that I see a parallel between Putin’s history essay and the monologue in the Tucker C interview showing his pervererted view of history, and Hitler’s Mein Kampf. Both Mein Kampf and Putin’s essay are ideological pamphlets. Both distort history. Both try to justify expansion by force. Both ascribe to their nation (their people) a quasi holy destiny. Both form the basis of how history is thought in schools. Both require enthousiastic acceptance, and dissent is criminalized. And both are being executed as the screenplay of a bloody war. History repeats itself.
@Indiskret1
@Indiskret1 2 місяці тому
Top notch interview and video. Extremely important! Thanks a lot
@Ghatbkk
@Ghatbkk Місяць тому
Great interview. Thanks for that.
@paulpopescu2757
@paulpopescu2757 2 місяці тому
21:03 "to defeat Denikin coming up from the South". Disappointing to see that he does NOT mention the contribution of the Black Army in this events, and the fact that perhaps the Bolsheviks gave Donetsk and Lugansk to the young Ukrainian Soviet Republic, as a gift for that contribution in defeating Denikin. Antony Beevor is speaking, ( to make a comparison ), as in Spanish Civil War, and the Ebro Battle of 1938, the Catalan influence, or the International Brigades were NOT part of the conflict..
@borisafanasiev2365
@borisafanasiev2365 2 місяці тому
He is lying all the way. WWII became possible since Munich agreement and support plus appeasement of mustached Austrian artist from European leaders. He also forgot to mention members of royal family sympathizing to nut zees.
@rationalchimp8200
@rationalchimp8200 2 місяці тому
Excellent bravo gents!!
@kallekas8551
@kallekas8551 2 місяці тому
My stepdad who passed last year would have enjoyed this interview. He was the one who introduced me to Beevor’s extraordinary books, I haven’t looked back since.
@vasik9719
@vasik9719 28 днів тому
I can not agree more: history must be taught in schools!
@HelmetOfHonor
@HelmetOfHonor 2 місяці тому
How can people not see the similarities of pre WW2 and the Ukraine War right now?
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 2 місяці тому
Yeah we are playing the aggressors part
@user-wj6dt5bq3w
@user-wj6dt5bq3w 2 місяці тому
Chamberlain never backed a coup against one of Germany's neighbors in 1938 so the Ukraine war has nothing in common with pre WW2.
@HelmetOfHonor
@HelmetOfHonor 2 місяці тому
@@seanmoran2743 that's not what I said. Russia is the aggressor here. They started this conflict and if they do take Ukraine, like all dictators they will not stop and he already made it abundantly clear he wants to annex all former Russian/Soviet territories
@lordhogarth
@lordhogarth 2 місяці тому
Population of Russia: 150 million. Population Nato countries: 958 million. GDP Russia: $1.8 trillion. GDP Nato countries: $49 trillion. Sure, Putin could nuke us all, but in any conventionally-fought war Russia would be defeated in a matter of months.
@andyboxish4436
@andyboxish4436 Місяць тому
@@HelmetOfHonor wrong
@IrishTechnicalThinker
@IrishTechnicalThinker 2 місяці тому
Monologue of Putin, I like it. As dialogue indicates two people are chatting but Putin basically took Tucker under verbalised hostage. Then tortured him on camera, there was one point where Tucker didn't know what was going on. We lost all logic and reason when Tucker asked him about what about killer AI from the future, then Putin not seeing the joke went on another serious rant on the data for that possibility. My soul died listening to Putin.
@Wolf-hh4rv
@Wolf-hh4rv 2 місяці тому
Tucker Carlson is a total ignoramus. And no I am not a crazy lefty.
@fazole
@fazole Місяць тому
​​@@Wolf-hh4rv No he's not. He's a very good journalist who knows how to present the picture he wants. He is a master manipulator using 90% truth mixed in with his own views. He is, atbthis time, however probably the most truthful major reporter. Check out his interview with Brett Weinstein.
@simonlakin5067
@simonlakin5067 2 місяці тому
Thanks for the interview Steven. Just reading Stalingrad. An excellent book.
@fr.michaelknipe4839
@fr.michaelknipe4839 Місяць тому
Wow 🤩. So informative and insightful
@michaelmcintyre5719
@michaelmcintyre5719 2 місяці тому
It may well be my own denseness, but this interview, while containing some fascinating analysis, seems to wander around without being firmly focused on a central question. The title suggested that there was one, but then it seemed to wander around in the general area of the implications of WW2 for British national identity, school history teaching, etc. Antony Beevor may be a fine storyteller (and he is in my opinion and the opinion of very many others), and an effective researcher, but his is usually not a deep and complex analysis of the topics he writes about. I think it shows in this interview, in that he doesn’t appear to help guide the interviewer into more coherent and relevant historical and political waters. Glad to see, however, that few here share my view: ah the richness of variety!
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 2 місяці тому
How could Russia belong to the borderlands? 😂😂😂😂
@andyboxish4436
@andyboxish4436 Місяць тому
lol right?
@KeepOnTesting
@KeepOnTesting Місяць тому
Great author...I love your books Antony. Some of the best historical and war related books I've ever read. Dynamic and hard to out down.
@doctorwoohoo1152
@doctorwoohoo1152 2 місяці тому
Always superb.
@pedazodetorpedo
@pedazodetorpedo 2 місяці тому
Two Off Script interviews in as many days! What a treat.
@johnwebster5005
@johnwebster5005 2 місяці тому
The reality is that many people in eastern Ukraine consider themselves Russian and while Putin and the military have made mistakes, Ukraine has made many more - for instance, banning Russian as a language. General; Skirsky speaks Russian and only rudimentary Ukrainian and Zelenskyy speaks Ukrainian poorly with a very heavy Russian accent. And the Russians quickly learn from their mistakes. Putin has managed to build enormous unity in Russia against 'the west' and win the vast majority of the rest of the world to be 'against' the west and this is not just down to 'propaganda'. Russia has a strong case in Ukraine. The Russians took the statue of Potemkin incidentally because the Ukrainian nationalists said they would destroy it - AB knows this.
@mariaf.6601
@mariaf.6601 2 місяці тому
The language is no argument - think abou English- French- Spanish-speaking people around the world. Also, the fact that there are people who consider themselves Russian doesn't imply Russian state comes anywhere they are - think eg about Chinese people living in Siberia. "Russian language ban" is propaganda lie.
@andreafalconiero9089
@andreafalconiero9089 Місяць тому
Congratulations -- that's the first intelligent, _informed_ comment I've managed to find here. It says something about the calibre of the average Telegraph viewer that there is such a paucity of sensible comment.
@andyboxish4436
@andyboxish4436 Місяць тому
@@andreafalconiero9089 100%
@Fin4L6are
@Fin4L6are 29 днів тому
if many people in Texas consider themselves Mexican, it doesn't give the right for Mexico to rightfully invade. Especially taking holodomor into account and the replacement of population. Also have to separate ethnicity and nationality. Hitler also waned to "protect german speakers".
@Fin4L6are
@Fin4L6are 29 днів тому
if many people in Texas consider themselves Mexican, it doesn't give the right for Mexico to rightfully invade. Especially taking Holodomor into the account and the population replacement. People have the right of self determination, but only for the native population and only for those, who do not already have a country of their nation.
@itsgoodforyou4235
@itsgoodforyou4235 2 місяці тому
Antony Beevor cannot stop talking about Putin. Putin will never know Antony Beevor exists.
@whatwasithinking-jt9nz
@whatwasithinking-jt9nz 2 місяці тому
Obsessed like a schoolgirl with the gym teacher.
@gilh3947
@gilh3947 2 місяці тому
129 k viewers, 6 morons liking your empty comment. Statistically that is quite ok.
@hassanas-sabbagh6562
@hassanas-sabbagh6562 2 місяці тому
Well, that's the difference between a historian and a senile usurper president with an inflated ego.
@bigolboomerbelly4348
@bigolboomerbelly4348 Місяць тому
Putin will never know many things. The taste of champagne comes to mind.
@brentoswald8093
@brentoswald8093 Місяць тому
Putin would be far better off had he studied a bit of history.
@christianpilon747
@christianpilon747 Місяць тому
Excellent Ukraine 🇺🇦 Canada 🇨🇦
@avs4365
@avs4365 Місяць тому
As someone not far off his eighties I have never heard just how our - the UK's- different views and understanding of our history has completely changed over my lifetime so clearly expressed. Intelligence shared, nothing better.
@craigprescott6045
@craigprescott6045 Місяць тому
Very good interview. We want more!
@Pinakij
@Pinakij 2 місяці тому
He’s a international treasure Scholar and a gentleman
@barbarcreighton6726
@barbarcreighton6726 2 місяці тому
great man and very fascinating talk
@user-ei8eq3yq1f
@user-ei8eq3yq1f 2 місяці тому
What an excellent program Mr Beevor is anational treasure what a treat utter joy wonderful
@Rabiusa
@Rabiusa Місяць тому
The problem with teaching history is not only the subjects covered, but also that it's so easy to teach badly. It's not just about learning dates and "facts"; it's about learning how to think, to question and to analyze. Not only is it lazy to approach history teaching by only focusing on the former, but some countries' education systems discourage or deliberately stymie the development of critical thinking skills.
@marklammas2465
@marklammas2465 Місяць тому
I think some countries stymie the development of critical thinking skills in education because politicians can no longer hoodwink people who have been taught to think logically. It's too dangerous to incumbent governments to allow too many educated people. Keep 'em dumb, and under yer thumb!
@16252
@16252 2 місяці тому
thanks for posting
@pawelpap9
@pawelpap9 2 місяці тому
I read all Beevor’s books, some multiple times. So it was greatly rewarding to hear him talking, the way he carries himself, formulates his thoughts. He certainly is at least as good a speaker as he is a writer.
@Abuamina001
@Abuamina001 11 днів тому
Kudos. An excellent interview.
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