Its nice to finally meet both MKB and HD in the same frame

The idea of accidentally leaving a risqué window somewhere in your work parking lot and stumbling upon it later like at 7:39 is hilarious to me.

Marques giving Marques a reality check was the highlight of this video. Love the self-reflection!

Imagine a surgeon able to train and demonstrate incision techniques to a room full of students virtually from any angle in real time. Shared experiences is a huge thing.

12:29 Marques talking about human eyes like a product reviews lol😂😂

In order of importance: - Field of View Increase - Weight Decrease / Comfort Increase - Multiple Mac Virtual Displays -Look at wrist to see time & notifications, battery - Virtual iPhone Display - Ability to “pop out” Mac windows & place them around - Additional Environments - Multiple Persona Outfits

As someone who works professionally with AR/VR/MR (collectively XR) headsets, I’m so glad you are doing these reviews of the Vision Pro (saves me a lot of work 😂). The first concept you describe, the ability to share virtual objects with someone else who is physically in the same room as you, is called World Anchoring, or more specifically sharing world anchors between the two headsets. Essentially both headsets agree on a common world anchor, and place/update all virtual objects accordingly. This is already a thing in the Quest Pro and Quest 3, as well as other higher end headsets like the HoloLens 2 and Magic Leap 2 (similarly priced around $3500-$5000). I’m surprised (but not really) that Apple isn’t on board with this concept right out of the box. The next concept, sharing a virtual environment with someone else who’s not co-located with you, just as you said is very straight forward. As for remembering unique spaces on the headset, HoloLens came up with a janky-but-effective solution for this years ago (like circa 2016 HoloLens 1 timeframe): HoloLens builds up a spatial map of the room/environment, and remembers the name of the wifi network that it was connected to when it built that map. It then saves that map to its internal memory. The next time the headset connects to the same WiFi network, it recognizes the name, and immediately loads up the pre-built spatial map for that area. This saves on processing power by not having to recreate the spatial map every time the headsets boots up. HoloLens can remember multiple WiFi signals/spatial maps (they’re on the order of MB of data, so not much compared to its 64GB of onboard memory. I’m sure the list could go on. Again, surprised-but-not-surprised that Apple hasn’t figured any of this out yet. 😂

It's nice that MKBHD and Marques finally met each other

12:30 For a moment Marques started reviewing the Human Eye 👀 😂🤣

Marques refering to the human eye like it's a tech device lmao

I’d like it to have a “portal window” feature. Let’s say I’m at work or on vacation and I want to check how my cat is doing, so I have 360° camera at home and I’d like to have a “portal” that looks like a window or a frame where I can stick my head and take a look inside my house. With proper 360° camera it can be done really good and real looking, they can even make their own cameras for that… Honestly that thing has so much potential in the future, I can’t imagine what will be possible in 10 years

Marques reviewing the human eye for a moment there 😂.

Whats this device is missing is a episode of Black Mirror about it

Why spend big on Vision Pro when you can grab 6-7 Meta Quest 3s and have a blast gaming with your buddies and fam? 😂

I love how he almost started talking about the specs of the human eye 🤣🤣

that little smirk when he thinks "To the window, to the wall!" 8:35 !!

12:30 Marques reviewing the human eyes😅

As an Apple Store employee who gives the demos directly, seeing people’s reactions has been great. I can’t wait to see what the future holds for it.

Hey Marques, love the tech reviews as always! Just watched your Apple Vision Pro video, and I gotta say, it's got some serious potential for architects and designers. If they tweak the color accuracy and add features like realistic rendering, virtual walkthroughs, and daylight simulation, it could be a game-changer for our industry. Imagine being able to build and walk around your designs while simulating different times of day! That'd be next-level stuff. Keep up the great work, man!

I'll admit the first thing that came to mind when you were talking about having multiple people in the same virtual setting was playing D&D together when you live far apart.

“But didn’t this just literally came out?” MKBHD 😂

Wow. Shared experiences. I am so glad you made this point. There is nothing worse than being the only person able to play a game at one time. We are always isolated from our family and friends.

The Vision Pro should also add the ability to use your iPhone keyboard, where you see your iPhone screen on the Vision Pro, and know where your fingers are on the iPhone screen, like a grey bubble to indicate where your finger is hovering over on the iPhone screen.

The syncing of Passthrough mode is a thing on Quest 3. I played Puzzling Places with my friend and we were both in the same room, having the puzzlepieces float in our room and we could both see them from different angles and even pass each other the pieces. It was such a surreal experience and you'd almost forget its all digital and not real.

The first time I've ever seen Marques get impatient with someone, and it's with himself.😂

8:35 that little smirk when he thinks "To the window, to the wall!"

Such good and positive feedback. I agree with everything, including the keyboard while in an environment

All of these floating windows reminds me of Iron Mans holograms as he is waving his arms around developing the iron man suit.

12:13 The human eye review had me laughing 😂😂

It does recognize keyboard. Them opting to occlude it is I think more of a settings update that they need to modify. It will track your keyboard orientation and rotation within about 30 degrees off center. You can confirm this by moving the keyboard while the little mini text bar is up. I think they just need some more robust settings and adding in a keyboard occlusion/masking zone should be straightforward.

Jeez, the timing during the intro! Perfect piece of work

12:27 Suddenly I want MKBHD to make a full review of the human eye.

AR & VR PhD researcher here! The shared space phenomenon you're describing as the first point can already be done! Back in 2019 I implemented this for Hololens 1 and it worked great! I am genuinely surprised that AVP didn't launch with this, it seems like such an obvious oversight. Especially since I can 100% guarantee that the Vision Pro has the technical capabilities.

11:09 For screens up close, pixels per degree is much more useful than pixels per inch. I have heard that its pixels per degree is less than that of the iPhone at a reasonable distance.

i agree...this could support collaborative learning as well

Marques talking to himself is hilarious lmao 😂

Google Glass: "Is now the right time to live again?

Marques is basically describing a Microsoft HoloLens2 in the first 10 minutes of the video.

I agree with what Marques said to Marques in this video. Marques made some great points. I hope Marques collabs more with Marques in future videos.

Having a way to save a location would also make sharing easier. Imagine walking into a cafe, the walls are all blank. You put on your vision and open the saved location. Suddenly one wall has the cafe playlist and music, others have art, another has a menu, and another announces whose order is being prepared/ready. Or people visit your office and can open a saved location setting and see a bunch of information about the company.

Thank you for the honesty

The cinematic touch looks great!

Thanks for this video. The lack of multiple space memory actually told me this isn't ready for me. I was about to look into purchasing one, but this is a fundamental need for me. Hopefully with the second one.

Marques doing a tech review on the human eyes for a second there was hilarious 😄

Marques looks like he has a Vision Pro tan 😂😂😂😂

I like you started this video MKBHD and great video man :]

More videos like this plz. Even though you make me not want this with more and more things missing I thought would be obvious.

Infrared spectrum - why settle with what we already can see? X-ray feature - save the 3D image of the room you just left and allow me to see it through a wall? Paint on environment? Mood settings, turn MY room into a blade runner room by shifting the mood/details/lighting etc?

Marques listing off the specs of the human eye was hilarious

woah the window between the two cars blew my mind... either its localization is super super good or a lot of things are coming together to make that possible

dont worry, youre not alone in there, Tim is watching everything u do 🤣

10:50 Never thought I'd hear that sentence when referencing two premium Apple products

12:30 "Human eyes have FOViated rendering" xD Nature mimics tech

6:17 I would love to see something like this for engineering projects or architecture. Like, one of the first things that I thought of was frame iron man 2 where Tony is finding the new element… having a virtual environment like that would be amazing for education & for presentations

5:00 the Microsoft hololense did this several years ago. I personally tested the system out and I was able to see a shared "whiteboard" in the room and there was multiple objects on a blank table in the room that we could all grab and manipupate. With a lack of marketing, high cost, very short list of programs and games usable within it, I can see why it didnt become more popular. Even today, there is very little reason to have one unless you have a very niche thing your doing that could use the headset such as training someone on assembly line work ahead of time before throwing them into the actual assembly line.

One of my most favorite moments while gaming is the time i played vr chat with my long distance friend and we found a world with a bunch of tvs and simply sat and watched movies with eachother.

Marques started reviewing the eye😂 the guy really loves tech

5:16 share the spatial data from multiple headsets and merge them into one, and send the merged data to all the headsets. the number of merging steps required would continue to decrease as all the headsets slowly saturate the same environment.

It would be cool if they just integrated your workspace format into Focus Modes. Like how on an iPad/iPhone, your lock and Home Screen changes based on the Focus mode you’re in. Imagine that on the Vision Pro but with the apps you have opened and their arrangements.

"You ever played Rec Room?" The whole internet: "if he were a PC guy he wouldn't miss on the whole VR Chat experience"

Put me courtside at an NBA game, Put me into an empty seat at an actual movie

Great points. Shared VR has been around for decades

The ONLY 2 Scenarios where id use a VR headset is for Movies and Games, since a phone is more practical in every other way. But you honestly seem pretty isolated when using this thing

These are mostly not Gen 2 requests. They are software update requests that could easily work on the existing hardware (other than the colour gamut and video spec).

9:04 Imagine having focus modes tied to location or time of day. It’s probably in the works

You really nailed the timing on this double act

I agree with all your recommendations. This is a first generation product and as usual it has room to improve.

0:18 "Didn't this literally just came out?" [404 Grammar not found]

The graphics in this video 5:00 are GORGEOUS

This guy's videos are litreally "WRITE THAT DOWN!!!" for Apple 😂😂😂

Quest supports shared spaces. It's used in Demeo. Two people can play Demeo in the same actual room and they see the Demeo board at the same place.

As a GenX Apple nerd, I really appreciated this review. It felt like old school apple user design thinking when Apple would take cues from users to improve products. Hopefully they watch this one. Seriously, well done, and well produced.

The beacon idea is awesome. Imagine multiple headsets communicating with one beacon, or walking into other rooms with beacons that pop up for information.

My office is in my basement. The app Immersed on the Quest Pro has saved my life. It’s different environments from a coffee shop or scape ship lounge to a cavern and a chalet in the Alps that other people working can sit in to work. It gives you the sense ur working at Starbucks or something and greatly improves morale by letting you be around others even if you don’t want to chat with them. I’m very surprised the Vision Pro doesn’t have that.

The only reason I would use one today is for immersive AppleTV+! Nothing else in this version feels polished, usable, and cool enough. But that would be a very expensive, limited and uncomfortable solution. Still, it's cheaper than a huge screen and the space required for one. But no one paying $4K for it would be interested in saving money to have a lesser experience just for the sake of it being immersive. Better to turn off the lights and get a bigger better screen, which you can also use with an awesome set of Atmos speakers.

Totally agree with everything mentioned!!!

so glad MKB is keeping it real here, so many other channels trying to act like the AVP is some holy grail VR headset when it's clearly lacking basic VR functionality

Another great thing to add would be notes at specific locations you can save. Imagine if you once visit the Eiffel tower then leave a note there about what you were thinking. Then came back to the same place years later to see your note floating in the sky. It would be nostalgic.

ALSO, WITH FOCUS MODES, DIFFERENT WINDOWS CAN OPEN IN THE SAME LOCATION AS WELL WILL BE AMAZING

I think there are versions of VR for the enterprise where you can share your experience of the model being designed. It probably won't be hard to do for apple since it already has Airplay style casting. It just needs to adapt Airplay to broadcast a 3D stream instead of a regular video stream

Wait, you can't play VR Chat with Vision Pro? This is like Mac can't play games on Steams all over again. See you in 5 years.

2:17 bruh VRChat nerds have found ways to sync movies, music, displays, even instruments- now all with VR Passthrough. Its amazing, but this stuff has actually existed for years lol

It's reviews like this that makes Marques the GOAT. Thank you for keeping it real.

interesting obstacle for the shared apple vision experience. i assume in the future these headsets will be able to talk to each other, so you could do something like put each other's 'room data' side by side for comparison, then place the virtual object with better reference to both parties. this is gonna be a cool product

Marques talking to Marques will always be top tier

4:46 watch as apple calls this type of interaction “SpaceTime”

Sick Video, the editing is top notch. Hope i get a chance to be in one of these tech videos

I love your Analysis.

The first thing you mentioned is why I love my Q3. I can go watch a movie with someone. I go fishing and shoot orcs with my bow and arrow with my nephews on their own headsets. We're all experiencing the same thing together. I'm sure this feature will come to Apple at some point, and then just like when they adopt a feature that Samsung's had for years, everyone will think it's so amazing. ha ha.

I love your cold opens. They always keep it lighthearted and goofy.

Very interesting suggestions, indeed, and mostly agreed. Regarding VR at all - I'm very skeptical about it, but not because it's not useful - but because I think even more disconnect from reality will be damaging. I sit at the monitor enough hours as it is, even more in a virtual reality rather than outside and seeing directly with my eyes?

A perfect gift for my Valentine’s Day then! 😂

4:35 the sadness in that hand drop

The editing on these vids just top each other each day

So true man, the fit thing that popped in my head was sharing your experience. But many peeps would argue for privacy, good for them. As it’s a niche product for now, should’ve made a daft punk style vision pro helmet! Imagine the hardware that could go in it. Could’ve put a projector in it. The third eye! Lol! Even weirder.

The floating shoe @4:35!! Nice touch given the context of the video! 👏👏

6:34 The guy looking where that ball went. Thats funny😂

The absence of shared experiences and window memory across locations definitely limit its usage potential. I also agree with your points about better color and keyboard pass-through. Looking forward to the gen 2 and the improvements it'll bring!

I'm definitely late to the MKB tech-train. But he is truly awesome - he doesn't have an inflated ego and just breaks down everything so logically and neutrally. Maximum respect 👏

Shouting from the rooftops: “VR CHAT”