April 2024 AICamp Boston meetup - Joscha Bach - Is the LLM the last invention we ever need to make?

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Dan Elton

Dan Elton

23 дні тому

Joscha Bach is an iconoclastic researcher working at the intersection of AI and cognitive science. He previously was a researcher at both the MIT Media Lab and at Harvard. Between 2021 - January 2023 he was Principle AI Engineer at Intel's Cognitive Computing group. He currently serves as AI strategist at Liquid AI and on the advisory council of the AI Foundation. His website is bach.ai and you can find him on X at / plinz .
Talk Title & Description:
Is the LLM the last invention humanity needs to make?
The success of LLMs is taking the world by storm. The Turing test seems to have been obliterated years ago, and more applications and use cases are unlocked every week. Yet many of us are skeptical: are LLMs sufficient to carry us all the way to AGI? Are they the way to creating superhuman intelligence, a transitional development, or a dead end?

КОМЕНТАРІ: 48
@loopuleasa
@loopuleasa 19 днів тому
joscha, one of my most listened minds overall
@michaelbrady1478
@michaelbrady1478 18 днів тому
This is the best lecture I've heard in months.
@Hlbkomer
@Hlbkomer 13 днів тому
5:20 Look how happy he is with his joke landing :) Edit: 7:28 Another smash, my man came prepared
@markcounseling
@markcounseling 5 днів тому
4:55 Notice that this one didn't quite land though 😂
@SB324
@SB324 20 днів тому
Thank you Dr. Bach.
@maxpowers9331
@maxpowers9331 13 днів тому
Awesome Talk
@sendscho2260
@sendscho2260 20 днів тому
Thank you Mr. Anderson
@sergiobayona
@sergiobayona 19 днів тому
great nerdy humor and insightful observations.
@gridcoregilry666
@gridcoregilry666 19 днів тому
Brilliant as always ❤
@CrowMagnum
@CrowMagnum 20 днів тому
Presence is not just interaction using real time models, it is balancing the application of models built from past experience with the update, enhancement, and transcendence of those models based on the present moment.
@hartmut-a9dt
@hartmut-a9dt 15 днів тому
37:26 two Gigabytes, I could outsource myself to my PC standing on the floor.
@ginogarcia8730
@ginogarcia8730 20 днів тому
thanks for this Mr. Elton!
@cheisterkamp
@cheisterkamp 15 днів тому
The more of his presentations I see, the more I feel like I'm listening to an LLM...
@encyclopath
@encyclopath 15 днів тому
He will have travelled back in time to have implemented himself
@En1Gm4A
@En1Gm4A 19 днів тому
I think we should keep agency and basically impement the perfect tool and grow with it gaining insight into every topic we want by using that tool. we can even expand that tool that way
@CrowMagnum
@CrowMagnum 20 днів тому
Lots of things get built better by taking more time to build them, but better in many fields, such as software, is synonymous with faster.
@richardnunziata3221
@richardnunziata3221 15 днів тому
accelerate into the future
@pisoiorfan
@pisoiorfan 11 днів тому
A reason it's quite fallacious to compare a 2Gbyte "only" model with the brain is because the ANN alone is an inference model. Our mushy brains do the actual training too - a comparison should match the amounts of compute&data needed to produce the seemingly efficient inference engine. I'm pretty convinced the brain size is about massive searching to find useful solutions within very limited amount of sensory data in order to fit it with an optimized, efficient model of the world, NOT about memorizing the resulting model of the world. Try to pretrain an LLM with all information available before "Attention is all you need" paper, then feed its window context with the actual paper and ask it to produce the implementation code. If it is able to do that even remotely then indeed we can talk about AGI.
@berendmainz540
@berendmainz540 17 днів тому
Jedes mal mindblowing der Mann...
@Stadtpark90
@Stadtpark90 8 днів тому
20:24 Electric Weltgeist: Mirror, Mirror on the Wall - Black Nazis 24:50 the problem of human ethics, the loss of “Divine Will”, and the hackability of utilitarianism: the breakdown of utility maximization; effective altruism doesn’t lend itself to be implemented on computers (- will lead to unwanted outcomes if implemented rigorously).
@keithwins
@keithwins 13 днів тому
29:00 LLMs and IFS-like multiple parts
@teemukupiainen3684
@teemukupiainen3684 18 днів тому
One day i told Bing Copilot humans are also kind of AI's, a bit in in style of Bach and Michael Levin are explaining it...and told humans desperately need AGI to solve the climate crises. Next day Bing immediately asked about my ideas...and when I was wondering it: "I’m sorry if I caused you confusion. I don’t remember all my conversations, but sometimes I can use your previous messages to help me understand what you want to talk about. This does not mean that I store or keep your personal information. I respect your privacy and safety. 😊 I didn’t want to assume that you were the same person who asked me about the UKposts idea earlier, but I thought it was possible because you used the same language and location. If you are a different person, you can tell me, and I can start a new conversation with you. If you are the same person, you can continue where we left off. 😊 I am interested in hearing more about your thoughts on artificial intelligence and its impacts on the world. You can also ask me anything else, and I will try to answer to the best of my ability. 🙌"
@solarwind907
@solarwind907 11 днів тому
Guess how the IDF uses the AI program “lavender“ to choose targets in Gaza? It’s a lot like how you describe your experience with Bing
@richardnunziata3221
@richardnunziata3221 15 днів тому
To be useful functional constraints must direct scaling layers in the same way such functions construct abstractions in compressive architectures. Where the functions are derivative of a complex multimodal system based in evolution imperative. Text has embedded in it much of the evolutionary directive, as well as causal relations.
@keithwins
@keithwins 13 днів тому
38:10 would it be possible to run a person on a gaming PC? We just know. He seems to imply a well compressed embedment of the universe of human knowledge can fit in 2 GB?
@markcounseling
@markcounseling 5 днів тому
42:45 I take this as the great and eternal nerd utopia, to rise above the monkeys and to be able to exist within a purely informational space, with yourself as one LLM, in communication with other LLMs. So clean, so pristine, so safe, no 900-lb gorillas allowed. But alas, the entirety of bodily experience is lost within this autistic vision, as beautiful as it is in many respects.
@bilderzucht
@bilderzucht 19 днів тому
44:12 "Every technology so far we invented made things better" That seems some fairly subjective opinion. I actualy heard the opposite from professional designers doing Typography. Better for whom? For humanity of for capitalism? Some people think Music with Autotune is "better" some wouldnt agree.
@ControlProblem
@ControlProblem 18 днів тому
At 8:00 he implies that it's fine if AI replaces us (as photosynthesizes replaced the pre-oxygen lifeforms) because it would be selfish for us to want to be the end-point of evolution.
@thomasmitchell2514
@thomasmitchell2514 18 днів тому
Is that wrong though? He followed it with logic, consider how you’d feel if primates had that mindset and prevented evolution so they could remain on top. Is that the right thing to do? Also his argument wasn’t for complete replacement, but significant displacement. However humans can very likely evolve with AI. Would people that want to stop evolution where it’s at be okay with significant divergence in human capability? Statistically, more intelligence is associated with less violence, so maybe natural selection will slow that process down until it’s overwhelming. But which team are you rooting for?
@keithwins
@keithwins 13 днів тому
2:30 instead of culture wars we should look at this as a mirror of who we are... (For the purpose of understanding ourselves better)
@Dr.Z.Moravcik-inventor-of-AGI
@Dr.Z.Moravcik-inventor-of-AGI 17 днів тому
I wonder what is the exact relation among microsoft, intel, germany and Joscha Bach?
@yoyo-jc5qg
@yoyo-jc5qg 9 днів тому
Says in description he moved on from intel to liquid AI and also is an advisor for the AI Foundation which collaborates with researchers, universities, and companies like microsoft to promote ethical, responsible, and sustainable AI
@InquilineKea
@InquilineKea 19 днів тому
What camera was used
@DanElton
@DanElton 18 днів тому
It was filmed by Addy who is a friend of Rachel St Clair. He says he used a sony A7RV. He also used $700 lapel mics lol (probably overkill)
@Shmoji
@Shmoji 17 днів тому
30:10 - whose theorem?
@Gudnarr
@Gudnarr 17 днів тому
Löb‘s theorem: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Löb's_theorem
@Gudnarr
@Gudnarr 17 днів тому
I think!
@En1Gm4A
@En1Gm4A 19 днів тому
i belive he thinks too abstract there got to be a easier way
@Hecarim420
@Hecarim420 15 днів тому
👀ツ
@michaelwalsh9920
@michaelwalsh9920 20 днів тому
You want the truth? JB will tell you the truth(if you can handle it lol).
@loopuleasa
@loopuleasa 19 днів тому
not just handle, grasp it too
@ShpanMan
@ShpanMan 19 днів тому
Thank you Mr. Musk
@umberto488
@umberto488 16 днів тому
Huh?
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