For those of you asking for HP benchmarks with a RAM upgrade. I dropped a 32GB 4800Mhz kit in and ran a couple benchmarks. BFV @ 1080P High Stock: Avg 65, 1% 11 Upgrade: Avg 69, 1% 24 CP 2077 @ 1080P High Stock: Avg 33 FPS, 1% 11 Upgrade: Avg 35 FPS 1% 26 It didn’t make as much of a difference as I was expecting, but the RTX 2050 seemed to be the bottleneck. I’m doing a follow up video where I put it through its paces more. Thanks for watching, bye!

*"I'd take a couple of mm for RAM upgradability any day of the week."* Pure gold. Thin is good, when it doesn't get in the way of user experience.

As a guy who doesn't travel a lot, let me share this: the lifespan of gaming gear is what interests me. I still drive a 4790 and a 1080ti. Handles everything I throw at it. Those are 10+ year old parts, and they've lasted and lasted. What I have noticed is that gaming laptops tend to eat themselves, usually due to thermal issues, or stress on the hardware due to mishandling. And once they're broken there's no fixing them. They're like Lamborghinis or Ferraris. Very nice, very sporty, super fast...for a very, *very* limited amount of time. I'd need to replace a gaming laptop once every 3-3.5 years, I reckon. And that's just not in my price range. That said there's much to consider about the budget gaming laptop that I quite liked, namely: it's a budget gaming laptop! Honestly I didn't see the performance dip as that big an issue. It was 141 frames vs. 160+ frames in that Battlefield demo Dawid ran, and that's a non-issue for me.

That hp was on sale for 450 over Black Friday last year and was actually an insane deal

No, they arent. Side note, edit: **Gaming** Laptops have bad ergonomics, throttle because of *physical* constraints, and arent as repairable as they used to be. Even cheaper used workstation ones are less of an unrepairable fire hazard. Sales dont make a laptop "better". Look at the 4090.

They didn't make the decision to solder the ram. they made the decision to go w/ LPDDR5x over DDR5. LPDDR5x happens to be required to be soldered but comes with many benefits of speed and power consumption over DDR5

I was pretty impressed how passable the low spec model was.

Just built my first pc and I have to say youtube channels like yours was a big reason for me wanting to give it a try. I appreciate your fun informative videos and I gotta say from my experiences so far the pc building community in general are helpful good people. I'm probably hooked now though aren't I.😂

What did i even expect coming into this video, OBVIOUSLY THAT EXPENSIVE ONE WILL DEMOLISH THE CHEAP ONE IN EVERY WAY.... Dude is so entertaining i had to watch it

2200 dollars For 16gb of ram, and a miss branded 4060... Epic...

upgrade the ram in that budget laptop and rerun those tests.

So, in 2022 I purchased a Lenovo legion gaming laptop from microcenter. Paid 499.99 US. It has an i5 12450h, an RTX 3050, 2x m.2 slots which made upgrading the storage extremely easy, and 8 gigs of socketed DDR4. For less than 120 additional dollars I added a 1 tb m.2 and upgraded the ram to 32 gigs. It also has a 120hz display. I really enjoy gaming on it. But then I bought an ally back in September of 2023 and I have not turned on my laptop since then.

I got the Acer Predator Triton se a couple of years ago, 2021. I7-11370h RTX 3060 90w 16gb DDR4 3200mhz (upgradeable to 24gb) 1TB NVME SSD. 144hz monitor. The CPU in this is the limiting factor but it still powered through every release I've thrown at it in the last 3years without having to resort to upscaling most of the time. The cooling and build quality on this is also amazing! The airflow is so good that it keeps my hands cool on hot days whilst typing with a cooling pad underneath. Because the cold air from the cooling pad comes through the keys on the keyboard, resulting in the CPU never going above 78c and the GPU settling in at 55C...For a laptop this thin it's got great design and thermal management. Think i might have to upgrade soon though, mainly for a better CPU but i have been happy with my purchase. Depending on the game and how demanding it is i could get anywhere between 55fps to a 144fps with DLSS on or off at 1080p or 1440p (more 60 at 1440p).

I used to travel for work. Having a gaming laptop I could throw in my stuff made the experience a lot more enjoyable. Was it as powerful as my desktop? No. But it didn't have to be. I just wanted to play some light games after I was done for the day. I certainly would like a more premium gaming laptop, but I couldn't justify the expense at the time. Several years on and the laptop struggles quite a bit, but for older games and eSports it's fine. Throw a decent pair of closed back headphones or IEMs in your bag and you barely even hear the jet engine. That said, I traveled less than 30% of the time. If my travel was 50% and up, I would have likely sold most of my desktops and bought the highest-end gaming laptop I could have, since that would have been my primary system. I think the biggest justifications for a high end laptop are (1) how often are you on the go - classes, work, whatever and (2) how often do you game? If you're never on the go and you never game, obviously don't get a high end gaming laptop. If you travel a little bit or game every once in awhile, spending money on a high end gaming laptop doesn't make sense - buy something cheap for those times when you'll use it (a Steam Deck or similar might make even more sense here than a budget laptop). And same for if you game a lot but never travel - why buy a laptop in the first place? Or the inverse - if you travel a lot but never game, why are you even looking at a gaming laptop unless you need the GPU horsepower for a specific work task? But if you're in the subset of the population that travels a lot and wants to game every chance you get, a high end gaming laptop starts to make a lot of sense

Thanks Dawid. Very happy with my ASUS Scar 18 Laptop i bought on discount over the holidays. Has a 4090 Mobile and in that form factor, they were kind enough to make the 2 ssds and ram upgradeable

Really loved this one Dawid:) Keep up the amazing work brother

In my stupid grad school days I moved across an ocean twice with a full ATX gaming desktop taking up half my luggage. I learned from that mistake very quickly and got a budget gaming laptop instead. Now my job involves sometimes extended international travel, often to the kinds of places where you don't want to be going out and poking around after work. My gaming desktop is great at home, but I still see value in having a powerful machine I can bring with me on the go. It makes the long flights and hotel stays a lot more tolerable. I seriously considered the G14 and a couple of similar smaller high end gaming laptops when I got my last one, but ended up opting for a Lenovo Slim 7i Pro X more tailored to creative professionals. The mobile 3050 was still more than sufficient for my gaming-on-the-go needs while the overall package offered a better value for my specific situation.

Its always a good blast of a time coming back to Dawid's Tech Stuff

Yo… I haven’t skipped a single video if yours in at least 2 years. How do you keep coming up with interesting topics all the time? Props.

I’ve got the last gen G14 laptop and it’s so nice, typically I’ve gone for machines with the most performance I can squeeze out of the least money, but it’s cool having something with fancy build quality for a change

I always thought that was Dawid playing the guitar in the intro. I'm just going to continue to picture him playing that sweet sweet lick

5:35 So I just heard "if you mouse left-handed... probably avoid the premo laptop"

been waiting so long for a meaningful video, thanks Dawid

Great video as usual Dawid, also I think this idea is worth revisiting but with a laptop priced somewhere in the middle of these two.

I think having a third option right in the middle of the price range would make this comparison series much better

openbox refurbished from microcenter $810 13700hx, 32gb ram, 4060 8gb, 1tb nvme, 144hz 1080p in the same victus chasis works well for me

I need this style of video to become a whole series

Just when I was looking at purchasing a 4090 laptop this review came out! Thanks Dawid!

I think in general there's about an 80 percent chance something is worth the extra money, provided one important caveat. That being "If you actually have the extra money to spend." It's all relative, it's worth it to get the cheaper product, if that's what you can afford, and same for the more expensive.

A new laptop being sold with a 2050!? Didn't even see many of those when that chip was contemporary, it almost seemed like a paper launch it is so rare.

I have an ROG Strix Scar 2 bought last 2019 (almost 6 years and counting) with the i7-8750H and an RTX 2060. It's somewhat considered high-end in my country since it costs $2400 while it may be $1500 in the US back then. It has been able to handle everything I throw at it and it's yet to have any issues. With proper care and maintenance (although take account to the build quality), these expensive gaming laptops can be worth it to last long. Idk why but probably too I haven't been able game too much on it since I've been busy with other projects so it might have not stressed it out as much

I got me that version of that Victus laptop for Christmas! Had to add some RAM and storage of course, because it only brought the core hardware configuration, but it somehow got a 144 Hz monitor instead of 60? Probably because they had updated it in the interim. And you're right, for battery and performance purposes it's better to keep it at 60 anyway.

Always a good day when dawid uploads!

That clicks ASMR was mandatory

yay new video!

Dawid, I waited for a good video from you for more than half a year, finally something caught my eye!

I had an rog with a 3060 back when that was very good. It's not worth it. I wanted mobility, but it's better to get a lightweight on the go solution, then at home have a bigger beefy desktop. All I remember is, the laptop got really hot, dangerously so, higher end GPUs just aren't meant for that kind of thing. Get a Ryzen 5700u lightweight one for being mobile, get a home setup with an RTX for your home setup.

Had a Helios 300 with a 1660ti, i7 7700, 144hz screen, 16tb of ram, and 1 tb ssd for $900 back in 2019. Just got a "refurbished" (small scuff on the outside panel) Lenovo Legion 5i with 3070, i7 12700, 16tb of ram, 144hz 1440p screen, and 1tb nvme for $1099.

I bought one of those HP Victus laptops(albeit a 144hz model) on black friday sale for ~450$, along with a single 32g stick of ram for another ~40$. What a pleasant little thing. Doesn't touch my desktop, but it happily chugged along while playing every game I frequent at very usable framerates.

I bought my Victus with 32GB DDR5, 1TB PCIE Gen 4 SSD, and a 144Hz display all for $699. the display makes a huge difference and dual channel DDR5 gives me about a 25% boost over the numbers you got, so for the money, I'll take this budget laptop every day and twice on Sunday. Great buy!

More interesting would be the cheapest laptop with a certain graphics card vs the most expensive one. For example you can sometimes get a laptop with a RTX 4060 for about 700 bucks, but there are also laptops with a RTX 4060 for over 2000 bucks.

I enjoyed this video make more of these is expensive versus cheaper videos, which is better. Thanks again.

Asus soldered the ram because the SODIMM socket adds latency between the CPU and SODIMMs. The traces have to go under the sticks and back around to the contacts. They also did it to push the speed up so high. Really interested in someone using CAMM2 and see if the speeds and latency would still be as good

More cheap / expensive comparisons please! I just picked up the MSI Cyborg 15 for Christmas w/ a 4050 and couldn't be happier. I'm also Canadian and it's amazing how manufacturers and gaming companies work so hard to convince all of us that we need to pay $2000, $3000 or even $7000 (Razer, Apple) for the "luxury" experience. 60 FPS in AAA titles is good enough for me and having the GPU run only at 45W means a much cooler, quieter laptop with a decent battery life - all for much, much less money. Works for me!

The real question is: Are expensive Apple Phones worth buying?😂

can you compare a beast of a laptop from 2021 vs a new budget one from 2024?

good vid looking forward for next vid

If buying online, I would go with the Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3. You get a 3050, and with an extra ram and SSD slot, you are golden. Got the Ryzen 5, 8GB, 512 version for $680 here in the UK last fall, and upgraded it to 16 ($25) and 1tb of storage ($45). That's $750, which is not bad looking at the prices of similarly specd laptops. With a Logitech G305 and a Logitech G435 (grabbed on sale for $38 & $50 respectively, the setup is complete. You can also mod your mouse to shed a few grams if you are into that sort of thing. I've had a blast lugging it away on trips and still being able to play the games I like. I am looking at more compact and durable laptops for this purpose (as my gaming needs are not extreme), but for now this will do the trick. Will also lose less value on the used market if that's something you care about. Asus TUF is another good option around that price range.

For 2200 usd you can build one hell of a gaming pc with a mechanical keyboard, a great monitor probably even 2 and a good sound system.

- [00:00] 💻 Comparison between a budget gaming laptop and an expensive one. - [01:18] 🎮 Budget gaming laptop ($800 CAD) features Ryzen 5 7535HS CPU and RTX 2050 GPU. - [02:22] 💰 Expensive gaming laptop ($2,200 CAD) includes Ryzen 9 8945HS CPU and RTX 4070 GPU. - [02:34] 🏗 Build quality difference: HP laptop (plastic) vs. Asus Zephyrus G14 (metal, glass). - [04:24] ⌨ HP laptop features a serviceable keyboard and trackpad, Asus offers a more satisfying experience. - [04:38] 🔌 Additional I/O ports on Asus laptop, better arrangement for cable management. - [05:55] 🔊 Audio quality: HP laptop speakers mediocre, Asus front-firing speakers much better. - [07:03] 🦠 Both laptops loaded with bloatware, requiring a fresh Windows install. - [07:27] 🖥 Display quality: Asus Zephyrus with high-res OLED display outshines HP's lower-quality screen. - [09:43] 🎮 Gaming performance: Asus dominates HP in performance due to better hardware. - [10:34] 💾 Upgradeability: Both laptops have limitations, HP has socketed RAM, Asus has soldered RAM. - [12:04] 💰 Value of expensive gaming laptops is subjective but high-end models offer significant benefits.

if you shop around and mainly only look at the CPU and GPU can get surprisingly good deals, even when factoring in an extra 16GB-32GB RAM kit to install 5 seconds after you unbox the laptop. especially if you compromise a bit on screen resolution and refresh by using a monitor or TV at home with a wireless kb/m.

I'd like to see you compare some high end big brands against similar spec'ed but more budget minded laptops. You know the big boys versus the discount vendors! Regardless, still a fun vid like always!

This is huge for any college student who travels frequently. Who either design games or likes to play games a lot. But if you're settled in one place, then desktops are the best options.

I’ll sleep better tonight knowing dawids gentlemen’s vegetables were pleased by the one hand open test

Amazing, i hade the same victus but with a 12450h and gtx 1650 last year.

I like my predator helios 300. I bought it brand new for like $1200 three or four years ago, and at the time it had extremely respectable specs. i7-11800 CPU, RTX 3060 8GB variant, came from the factory with 16GB dual channel, 1TB HD, and upgradeability is spectacular. I noticed some stuttering issues on extremely demanding games, so I upgraded the ram to 64GB and it disappeared. Also added another 1TB SSD to it, and it's been cruising along. Noise is very respectable, display is good. Brand new you can still get them for like $900-$1000, factory refurbished for hundreds less, and it'll run Helldivers 2 on max settings just fine.

As someone who's had both budget and premium laptops. The budget ones are so bad its not even worth looking at. What matters most for a laptop, are actually the parts you interact with. The touchpad, the screen and the keyboard. Budget laptops always skimp on those parts and its just not even worth my time. Obviously if your broke and have no computer at all, getting something super cheap might actually be helpful. But $600 isn't super cheap.

I got a laptop with 13900hx and RTX 4080 for 2200. Upgraded the ram and storage for like 100 dollars

Greating from Czechia . I realy love your videos . Keep going man you are better then linus ❤

Well, I've recently bought my first ever computer, it's an IdeaPad Gaming 3 15IAH7 - a budget gaming laptop - and I must say I'm deeply satisfied with it, the tradeoffs aren´t a problem at all and I can see myself using it for as long as it lasts.

Oh no, it's sponsored 🙄

Unexcusable ASUS.... Soldered RAM? Nope.

This was a very interesting watch for me as I recently got an MSI Katana 15 B13V gaming laptop for £1299 (about $1650 USD) which is like a hybrid of the two laptops in your video. It's the build quality of the HP with specs very similar to the ASUS. i9-13900H RTX 4070 16GB DDR5 5200MHz 1TB SSD 15.6" 144hz screen It was good to see how this level of laptop hardware compares to lower specs. A twisted irony here is that the versions of this laptop with lower spec graphics cards (4050 and 4060) actually cost more than this did, and this laptop wasn't even listed as discounted at the retailer I purchased it from (Currys).

Interesting. I do own one of those Victus 15 laptops (The intel version from 2022), but mine came with an IPS with 144hz.

That Asus laptop is FAR too expensive for what it is. Horrible value.

Bruh Lenovo 9i costs 3000 dollars

I would like to see more reviews for 'Budget Gaming Laptop comparisons' and I like the premium vs budget coverage

I have the higher tier of that HP Victus with the 144hz display, 16GB RAM, 3050TI, and the Intel 12650H. It cost $780 at the time of purchase from Best Buy. It seems to handle everything I throw at it well enough. There are only 2 complaints. First is an annoyance. The fan noise. It has a whine to it however if you remove the bottom cover the whine goes away. It has something to do with the way it's pulling air in through the bottom vents. Second is battery life. Just using it as a regular laptop it only lasts about 3 hours max. I always plug in when gaming so no idea on gaming battery life. Now the positives. The keyboard is actually very comfortable to type on. I don't have any issues with screen glare. It does not ramp up to extremes like that Asus does under full tilt. It recharges fairly quickly since it comes with a 200w charger. Overall I'm satisfied for what I got it for.

I just got an MSI Crosshair 16 at Best Buy for $1,100. i7 13620h, 140 watt RTX 4070, 144hz, 16GB DDR5 and 1TB Gen 4 SSD. Very happy with the performance, but the display leaves a lot to be desired. You won't mistake it for an OLED. I'm thinking about retiring my i3 9100f/GTX 1080 PC and using the MSI as a desktop replacement due to the subpar display. I was planning on upgrading my desktop anyway and can always pack the laptop up and deal with the non impressive display when I'm on the run.

The Zephyrus are nice looking machines, and great if you want a thin and light laptop, but their hero/strix series pack better cooling, more upgradability, and mine at least has a desktop GPU (non mobile) crammed into it as well. Yes, it does sound like a fleet of jumbo jets taking off when you have the fans cranked up all the way, but that's what headphones are for.

I’ve got the ROG M16 which replaced an MSI GE72VR and I gotta say that I love it, and gaming laptops in particular… but I hate money and I travel a lot. I got it open box from Best Buy for I think ~$1,500 with a core i9 13900H and a 4070 it was cheaper than when I priced one out to build as a desktop. Plus it has upgradeable memory (comes with 16gb populating a single slot out of two available) and an empty M.2 slot, it’s now sitting at 48gb of RAM and 5tb of storage for less than $2000. Plus the build quality is great, the sound is good, and it can run basically everything on Ultra (put demanding titles down to medium and it’ll even do it somewhat quietly), it’s got good I/O even though I just use a thunderbolt dock. Idek what the display is if I’m honest, I personally find it difficult to notice if something is 1080 or 4K unless they’re right next to each other and generally anything above a 60fps panel is good enough for me… I think it’s 2580x1600 judging by what games default at and I might remember the spec sheet saying 240hz but it might be 120. But overall I don’t honestly have any complaints about it. The only potential downside would be the price but I think it’s a pretty good price for the specs.

It would be interesting to see some gaming desktop vs gaming laptop for the same price comparisons. It might be closer than you think as you would have to include a monitor, and probably a basic keyboard to do the comparison justice.

I've always had an HP laptop and each served my long time, recently I tried the new and older generation from Asus, and it was very lidl, not downright bad, but I was not satisfied , I recently got an older HP gaming laptop that is all metal, I like it a lot

I've personally settled into a 2 computer setup. I have my big boy desktop for home gaming and getting shit done. Very upgradable, nice and quiet, built for 1500 cad rubles. And I also have a framework 13. It is moderately upgradable, satisfys my needs for gaming on the go surprisingly well considering its on an iGPU. Intel has made them pretty decent these days. I would personally recommend to anyone to splurge on a solid desktop for gaming and get a laptop moderately cheap with a recent intel cpu. That budget laptop is a pretty good showing for the pricepoint. The problem with laptops is you will ALWAYS be paying a premium for compressed space and for lesser performance than a desktop. Its convenience is an important factor but I personally have found myself just waiting to get home to play more demanding titles. Whereas things like minecraft, factorio, even cities skylines work just fine on the go on my laptop. Pop in some headphones for cities skylines to reduce the fact it sounds like a jet engine and it is a very respectable gaming experience.

as someone who travels a lot i used to love my gaming laptop, but i could never justify the price because i have a work laptop. So i built an itx system that i lug around with a portable monitor and honestly while it is a lot bigger. having a desktop that still fits in my backpack is amazing and i couldnt be happier with it.

I have an HP Victus with the i5 12500 and 3050ti - I upgraded the Ram from 16 GB to 32 GB and also increased the storage from 500 GB to 4 TB. Pretty cool laptop and very easy to upgrade. It plays most games pretty well on medium settings in 1080p. It’s perfect for traveling. Just hate the speakers the most lol

A good few years ago (about 8-9) i got an Asus G751 laptop, it was relatively expensive, but it came with an i7, and with a 980m, plus 16gigs of (still) ddr3 ram, and it did a pretty good job overall for quite a while. It has massive cooling, and its quite bulky, but in this case that adds to the value.. Then i thought to do an upgrade last year, and i've got myself a "desktop" pc (what an ancient word btw 🤣) pretty cheap, with a ryzen 7, an Aorus 1080ti, and with 32gigs of ddr4 memory. It's pretty much just one generation newer tech than my laptop, but maaan the difference is absolutely massive! Granted, it was almost top of the line back then, but so was the laptop. And the difference between them is M A S S I V E. So what i learned is that as the years go by, i will do the same. I will buy nothing "new" anymore, only top of the line "last-last gen", and only desktop. Lot of performance for little money! Perfect 👌btw my ROG laptop is still fine, my daughter plays Minecraft and GTA on it occasionally, native 1080p. It's still running fine, although I disassembled it a few times over the years to clean it and repaste it, but thats about it

I have the Victus. Got it on sale for $460 US. The American Best Buy version came with a 144hz display. I added 32GB DDR5 RAM for $70, and a 2TB Samsung EVO 970. I am happy with it. I get over 120 fps in titles like Spider-man Remastered. But my use case is for school and gaming is just cool, so there's that.

Well worth watching, TY 🙂

I used as a main computer my Asus TUF with the core i5 10th gen and the 1650, 16GB's works very well for this laptop and i was very comfortable with it, i just bought my gaming PC and i still use it whenever i remember.

I found a Ideapad Gaming 1080p 120hz 5600u & 3050ti(m) laptop at Best Buy for 550US added 40US 16GB(2x8) Crucial 3200 Ram & 18US 500GB M.2 SSD. I think after taxes I spent roughly 640 bucks. I can play anything on it, dialed down settings obviously. Cyberpunk 2077 Medium with DLSS Quality gets me 75+ FPS. On budget laptops RAM is the make or break. My Ideapad Gaming came with a single 8GB stick of 1Rx16 ram which crippled it. The Crucial set I ordered was 2Rx8 and dual channel, I went from unplayable sub 30FPS in many games to well over 100FPS. Jerrod's Tech has some great videos breaking down the differences ram can make in laptops. I think the craziest difference in my case was that the 135 watt power supply they gave me could not longer support the system on its own, while I am gaming the laptop has to pull from the battery reserves to keep up the performance, it pulls about 15% of the battery reserve per hour. That alone shows how held back the system was by a single piece of hardware...

AYYYYY IM WATCHING ON THE SAME VICTUS, its honestly such an amazing laptop for the price although mine has a 144hz display instead of 60 like you said

Cool video Dawid! What watch do you have on?

Dawid, how about in the follow up vid with the HP, try upgrading to dual channel ram and make some comparisons?

For anyone wondering, the soldered ram allows higher memory speeds and (maybe, correct me if im wrong) slightly better battery that wont be availible in upgradable form for a while now. that said, was it too much to ask for 32/ 64 gb ram versions and maybe an extra 10 watts power limit? the G14 with the 4070 actually is pretty good with thermals and 32 gb ram is the bare minimum for future proofing or using as a mini workstation.

Buy the best gaming laptop that you can afford. My first was a 2014 Rog Strix 17.3 inch with an i7 4700HQ, 860m, and 16 gigs of ram. That lasted me 9 years and sold it for a shiny new MSI Raider GE78HX i9/4080 edition. (I'm totally smitten by its performance and sound output) Fun stuff Dawid and can't wait for your next vid! Cheers!

The good thing about budget laptops is that, due to lack of upgradability, you will likely need to replace it sooner than a desktop PC. Blowing your wad on a high-end laptop, just to see better versions come out in a year and see the value of your laptop degrade leaves you feeling more disappointed due to the greater financial investment which translates into emotional investment. Of course, if you use your rig mostly for work and you can easily afford it those considerations will be considerably lessened. That being said, a Framework laptop is still probably the best choice for longevity.

I sold my desktop a while ago because I was moving around a little bit and went for a used laptop. The laptop I ended up getting had a 10700H, 3070 (115w variant), 32gb of RAM, 1080p 240hz display, and decent IO. I paid about 1200USD for it and so far it's been pretty good. Now that I'm not moving around anymore, I'm thinking about building a PC again.

The Asus Zephyrus series is genuienly an AMAZING laptop.

If i'd go and buy a gaming laptop, i'd go somewhere inbetween, probably around 1200€, especially if you can get a nice deal out. Some stores sell off their old stock for really cheap, that's how my buddy was able to get an Asus ROG laptop for around 1300€, previous price being 2000€, that has a 3080 in it, which back then was an insane deal. It's always great to look out for deals. While i do like the look of the G14, the glass front is something i dislike, much rather have a solid 1080p IPS display than a protected OLED, which will still have more glare than a normal Matte display.

Even at the high end, its always a gamble if you don't keep up with product reviews. For $2000 you can end up with a fancy paperweight

I think it would've been interesting to do the Dawid Arena of Death with these 2 laptops, something in between, and desktops of about equivalent price just to see the performance you get for your money, along with the convenience of each.

In regards to your LCD contrast, color gamut, and brightness tesst, what is the equipment and SW that you use to benchmark monitors and laptops?

So I have an HP Victus. I have the one with the 13thgen i5 and 6gb 3050. It too had 8gbs of ram and I threw an extra 16 in there so in total 24 gigs. The laptop was on sale from 899 down to 550. Coincidentally someone was selling one at the same time on facebook for 500 but i got it for 400. So for 450 bucks I got a 13thgen i5, 6gb 3050, and 24gbs of ram. The 13th i5 Victus has a 144 hz display instead of a 60. I have to say for the money that is very hard to beat. That said I also have a Razer with a 3070 that has a 165hz 1440p display and its a beast, but I still love the Victus.

Snagged a Victus off eBay that had a hole punched through the screen. It took out the ribbon cables on the keyboard and trackpad as well. I was able to find a replacement keyboard, fix the trackpad and heat the plastic back in shape. Then popped in a 1440p 145hz screen and 32gb of ram. In the end I was in about $280. Very impressed by the 3050ti in it. Battery life sucks, but it can still game at 100+ fps. Sorry for the long story, in short I feel Victus are nice / cheap laptops. Love the videos Dawid, no matter what they're about.

I think the middle ground is the best. Laptops have gotten really good nowadays. The Zephyrus G14 is what i have but basically all the other laptop manufacturers have them too. Really great build quality for an excellent price (provided you buy the previous year's model).

I'd like some recommendations on a gaming laptop with upgradability, something that fits within 2000cad, has good reputation for life span of at least 5 years and not LED if that's too much to ask for, I'm curious to see what's out there, as I plan to invest in one for the future when I leave. also average size would be best, a middle ground, and 1080p works fine for me. Just want some opinions, insight and experience with these, thanks.

Would have been interesting to see something between those 2 price point wise to see what is best bang for the buck.

I've got the Lenovo Legion Gen 8 i9 and I undderstand you: For travelling I use a Lenovo Pro 5 gen 8 with AMD 7840HS (with iGPU 780) which enables me to play CyberPunk and other with acceptable settings.

I broke the screen on my old MacBook that I used for school, so I bought that Victus model to replace it for $600 CAD (about $450 USD) on sale. It's a pretty solid little machine for the price. Added another stick of RAM and it runs a bit smoother.