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The old Nether felt more like Hell, whereas the new Nether feels like it’s own new fantasy land, especially thanks to the Warped and Crimson forests and the Piglins.

new ones are just more polished, but the old ones always give you that nostalgic feeling.

What really made the nether scarier upon it's first inception besides the textures is the lighting that was more similar to the overworld. Meaning it could actually get really dark, and you need torches to see anything. Imagine what the nether would look like today with true darkness.

Old netherrack: sharp broken sheets of shale covered in blood New netherrack: smooth river stone but red

I remember when the cows made different sounds. Anyone also remember when lava had a different pattern? (It changed from red to yellow rather than being mostly orange.) The old gravel textures bring me back, too. Remember when they were used as villager paths? Ahh… memories!

Anyone else still nostalgic for the old water and rain sounds? For some reason those embody the nostalgia of Minecraft's golden age for me the most.

I use the packs “Programmer Art” and “Programmer Art Extended.” It updates all the new textures to look like the old ones.

I feel like while sure old Netherrack fits the old Nether aesthetic where it was supposed to be hell. The texture does look like an eyesore after seeing it a couple of time, and with the current Nether being more focused on exploration instead of just finding a fortress and leave, having a texture with a lot of noise like the old netherrack can get uncomfortable for the eyes after spending too much time in the nether.

I jumped back into Minecraft around 1.14 or 15 after a few years away. I didn't even notice the textures were updated until I saw other videos talking about it long after. Whenever I see the old ones my reaction is always something along the lines of, "This is what it used to look like? It didn't seem like this much of an eyesore."

My favorite texture is the text to image where every block is white and has a name on it, really balanced, really colorful

I miss the old crop textures a lot too. Wheat in particular. The new one just doesn’t feel right.

Sand is my biggest issue, I honestly cannot tell distance or elevation in a desert biome now but I remember that it was quite easy back before the change.

Only thing about new textures are that some blocks that are supposed to be not flat (stone, logs etc.) are too undercontrasted. If they are a bit more contrasted, you will actually get the feel of their respective surfaces.

I like the retro indie feel of the old textures. Goes in line with the fact that the world is made up with cubes.

I always liked the old Netherrack. It looked like it was straight out of Doom.

A thing I liked about the old netherack texture was that it was kinda ambiguous as to what it really was. Was it a red rock? Red rock with blood on it? Or was it more like flesh and raw meat? The only new textures I like are glass because now you can actually see through it. As for the melon i think just making it a darker green rather than yellowish green would fix the old one. Overall the older textures are better in my opinion.

I do like the new textures. But the old villager textures are so versatile for maps. I remember how you could use a white coat villager as a scientist in a map. So a feature that allows you to spawn in the old villagers would be pretty cool.

Both of the netherrack textures are fitting for their respective versions in my opinion. Pre 1.14 one fit the old nether really well. It was a desolate space with this hellish eye straining netherrack everywhere. Add in the ghasts and other mobs and you get yourself a true hell feeling. 1.14 - 1.16 felt _really_ off. It felt way emptier than before and had less of the hell feeling - nothing but the smooth red block everywhere made it feel like it was a bland, lonely simple biome. 1.16 and forward is when the new textures actually come in really well - with 1.16, the general feeling and meaning of the nether changed a lot, and the smoother, less eye straining netherrack fits it really well. Nether is not just "hell" anymore, its another dimension where many unique creatures live and where many structures and biomes exist for the player to explore. Its way more lively and the old netherrack texture just doesnt fit it at all.

I personally love the old textures because of the nostalgia

I agree with you on that a mix of both would be ideal, for example the tree textures, the oak logs back in the day DID kind of look like an oak log, the "imperfections" or "noise" in the image gave it the jagged look that you find with the real life bark of an oak tree, the new texture is overly blurry and looks more like an oak tree after drinking to the very verge of being blackout drunk AND squinting your eyes, the jaggedness of the oak bark is smoothed out so much that instead of looking like a tree that you found in nature, it looks like you splashed 9 different brown paints on a 4x4 you'd get at Lowes

The old Netherrack always looked like flesh, bone, and stone to me. I liked that. The new texture looks like red rocks. Nothing too special about that

There's a pack called "Programmer Art Ultimate" that changes newer blocks and items to match the older styles

I love both. I’ll only be upset if they remove the ability to play older versions from the official launcher. I love all the versions in their own unique ways

It's worth noting that Jappa worked very closely with the community by asking for feedback. A lot of Jappa's textures got several iterations. Thanks to that feedback, we got textures that are new and fresh while being faithful to the original textures.

At first I hated the new textures but now I quite like them since they're softer on the eyes and gives me less of a headache

I do agree that the new netherrack looks a lot less scary, but frankly, the old texture makes being in the nether feel like stabbing a meat fork into your eyeballs. Maybe some kind of middle ground would be ideal.

"Alter the colors so that they don't cause migraine, keep the original pixel patterns." It's easy, you map out your color shades; medium shade, light shade, and dark shade, pick a color scheme that's easy on the eyes, and then apply it, that way the "old feeling" is kept. Now I know that's not a roundabout solution for everything, but I think it's applicable for a lot of the original blocks (like sand). I think it's a problem with new developers having their own ideas of what Minecraft is, versus what it was initially. Minecraft was a novelty pc game characterized by its retro look and place-setting in a "strange blocky world" without much lore (which gave it intrigue, or that is, the incentive to explore. Not that I'm against the ender dragon and stuff of course) which the old textures perfectly represented. It had an almost "surrealistic-dreamlike" feel (and I'm not using that word out of context, I'm referring to the actual art style "surrealism"). The new developers perceive Minecraft it seems as more of like a typical modern day free-roam rpg kind of game, and while I do think it has a lot of potential as an rpg, it would still require its retro look to differentiate from any other game. They smooth down all the terrain like it's nothing but a backdrop, but a backdrop for what? It's a sandbox game, so it's going to be dependent on interesting terrain to build, craft, and invoke imagination with. With the way they got things going, they make everything boring so that you focus on completing the game rather than choosing to complete it. How you ask? By trying to make it look more like real life. Check it, I'm playing a game to take a break from real life; if I wanted real life, I just would've went outside. If I have an ill feeling I'm familiar with, like I get from the real world, I'm going to try to escape it, that is, go on an adventure, prompting thus the need to follow the plot. The point is, realism does not always constitute immersion, sometimes it can, but not always. If anything, having something not realistic, as long as it's not too absurd, is more effective at providing an immersive feeling because it's unique, and it breaks away from the monotony of ordinary experience. Ultimately, the old look was a personality that came with an original concept, and now new developers are contradicting everything the game stands for by ushering in their own ideas. ( It's good to have ideas, but don't bring them to interfere with another's idea(s). Keep them for your own to share so that you remain original, and so that you don't cause another's beautiful creation to become obsolete)

tbh, i don't understand the modern crusade against jagged, noisy or high contrast art styles. The laser focus on smoothing away all the detail is really silly IMO. I obviously prefer the older textures overall, the new ones aren't bad but they all feel bland and identical, even if some of the old textures were just recolours. I also like the cobbled together indie feel of the old textures more, the new ones just feel more corporate

i think the 1.14 texture update really solitified where modern minecraft began with a complete change to the way the game looked

The new ore textures are helpful for colorblind people! My friend who always had a problem with that in Minecraft can now easily tell them apart just from their textures.

It is very difficult to decide which one is better because some of the newer textures are a bit too blurry, i think a perfect look for minecraft would be entirely different wood and stone blocks that are in between the current and old looks, I will make a texture pack of this one day because the newer swords and armor look worse but most of the newer textures look toleratable.

It's not just the textures, it's that they've introduced so many new useless blocks like deepslate and increased the world generation size and changed biome spread so much that you can't play survival efficiently anymore, it takes literal days to travel to find cactus to make green dye if you're spawned in an icy world - old Minecraft was varied and interesting to experience, they've veered too much towards realism since Notch left

I remember Antvenom covered this topic when the new textures were under development. His point still stands out to be the best one to me in my opinion, as it is still the case to this very day. If people really have a problem with the new textures, there are always resource packs for the old textures. That’s what I liked about it. It wasn’t forced, but rather a suggested change. I understand why it was controversial but I think it was a nice change.

6:49 New netherack looks soft, like a pillow, rather than the jagged sharp looking stuff in the old version, though I still prefer new netherack it does mess with the feeling the place was originally built to give.

i absolutely LOVE how with the programmer art enabled, crying obsidian is given the texture from when it was an unused block.

I think the only new texture that doesn't improve upon the old ones is the netherrack, for the reasons you mentioned. To me the old netherrack always looked like a kind of stone made out of flesh, the red lines looking like blood vessels, which is appropriate for the hell dimension.

I actually think 1.16 was *intended* to make the nether more like just a weird alternate to the overworld because they added a lot of survivability blocks like wood and stone Clarifying edit: I don't think this is a bad thing. I was just refuting a point. I loved 1.16 so much

I totally get what you think about the old netherrack block, but damn, I can't stop thinking "how could people go to the nether looking at THAT?"

Netherrack looks like a nice soft carpet now. But as for the rest of the changes, I don't mind too much. Some I hadn't really noticed, maybe because I leave large gaps when I play it.

I really like the old leaves and ores.

the new netherite block always makes me think of meat chunks rather then a "hell" especially with quartz looking like bones in flesh

I was a bit on the fence with the new textures back then, but I remember watching Hermitcraft s6, instantly liked it, it's really good in my opinion. Everytime I boot up 1.8 without a texturepack, it looks so foreign now. I do think the old texture is really nostalgic and still is quite good, but the newer one is more polished and refined.

I love the new ore textures, I always felt the older ones were lazy and just not that appealing, they kept the best of them by conserving the texture for the diamond ore while also making new ones for the rest, then not making it look lazy and letting players tell them apart just by the shape of the texture instead of the color

Players are just nostalgic, I think the new textures are much better than the old ones, but when I see them, I get a little twinge in my heart.

we need a resource pack that not only adapts the new blocks to the old textures, but takes the textures that were made without the context of the older blocks (like moss, deep slate, lodestones, etc) and makes THEM look like they were made before the texture update

I started playing about 9 and a half years ago. The old textures are nostalgic and still hold a special place in my heart. However, as somebody who builds an absolute ton, these new textures blend together so much better. I don't get the eye strain that I used to get when playing for a long period of time. I agree that some of the textures look a little bit more cartoony though. It's very frustrating that every single change or item Mojang adds to Minecraft is a huge point of strain for the community. If they were able to add a way to disable individual items or features to any world, new or old, I think there would be an amazing outcome. Old players who prefer keeping things the same could keep things the same for the most part, while choosing individual features that they enjoy. And people who like the constant change could have tons of new and unique additions to the game. I know that would be very difficult to implement on the developers part, but it would ease a lot of the issues that our community deals with

I have a fairly low attention span, but this 11 minute video kept me interested the whole time. +1 sub for you my friend

Particularly one of the old textures I miss is the wheat one because they look more obvious when fully grown

There is always controversy when such a big change happens in Minecraft! People reacted less about the textures themselves... but just that it was a large change

I believe the newer textures are better, but I do agree that netherack needs to be less polished and make you feel uncomfortable (for example making it looks like a flesh block, craftable with four rotten flesh or something, making it much more hellish and giving rotten flesh a use)

10:39 - Ouch, my two last worlds have houses made of diorite... :s

Old netherrack was the original cobblestone texture with a red tint, almost as if it was bleeding or covered in blood. It was a very clever design when it was first added, but I would say that it should have been updated when cobblestone was updated in the late stages of beta, same applies to mossy cobble. Neither were updated, so they always looked terrible in later versions of the game.

Obsidian. The new obsidian is way to dark / black so trying to read the cracking animation while braking it is almost impossible. I added a bunch of purple back into it so you can actually see the cracking animation now.

He says the new log looks more cartoony and smoother. If anything the old one has so much smoothed over space in between the log lines that it looks like it’s made out of smooth plastic while the new one looks very rough, as if you took a picture of a real log and downscaled it.

I think it’s a matter of preference whether or not you want a more saturated/defined Minecraft or a more neutral/smooth Minecraft. I totally agree with what you said about the Nether though, the Nether should be ugly and unsettling.

I’ve always preferred the original textures, I think a lot of them were too iconic to abandon. I really think they should continue to update both texture packs so that players have a choice instead of having to deal with clashing textures for nylium and new ores. For a game so focused on giving options to the player, the complete abandonment of the dev textures feels a bit heavy-handed.

I think that now, the two textures, simply match different gamplay styles. For example I tend to prefer one of the two texture on the basis of what game mode i'm playing: the old ones for more competitive and try hard modes, and the new ones for a more relaxing gameplay. The way the blocks appear just give me different vibes

I agree with your points in the video for the most part, i wanna see the mixed texture pack now

It’s up to opinion. I personally like the newer textures, but you can always use the old ones

For some reason I love the old netherack texture - it's so nostalgic, along with red beds and all wood types crafting to the oak texture. The changes make sense yet when I came back after a few years (1.12 to 1.14) i forgot they changed it, ended up with an oak door next to a dark oak door.

The ore texture changes is really good for colour blind people as before the 1.17 update people who were colourblind couldn’t tell the difference between pretty much all ores with the exception of lapis and emerald. Nice video by the way! :)

I agree with your opinion on old textures. They were indie which may sound bad but it really fit the feel and charm of the game much more (also new brick is terrible). I personally use a beautiful texture pack called "beta continuum" which not only brings back the old textures, but it also brings back old sounds, old mob models for zombie pigmen, and more is even possible with optifine like old lighting and old fog.

I totally agree with you on having mixed textures between old and new ones, I thought I was the only lunatic out there who thought like that, heck, a youtuber I follow even made something like that by making a server with alpha textures and 1.20 mechanics and stuff in general, but oh well, this really effects me minimally because I'm stuck on 1.12 lol

they're good sprites/textures don't get me wrong, its just you get attached to old familiar textures.

I feel like the newer textures work better, they're pretty close to the old textures but look a bit better also while I do think you're right that the old netherrack texture being ugly helped give more of a dangerous/unsettling atmosphere to the Nether, I feel like that could be achieved without having a block that's awful to even look at just spread everywhere

i just made my own resource pack where i copy-pasted some blocks from the old versions and put them in the resource pack for the newer version. that way you can have the textures you like from both versions

A problem I have with the new netherrack texture is that it's hard to judge depth, like its hard tell where a step or ledge might be

I think the reason why the old oak logs look better is contrast. There is that distinction between the light and dark brown that gives your eyes a place to rest. The old texture is good in a vacuum, but not as good in combination with all the other blocks unless you are using it as the block to empathize other things. Basically you are using the oak logs to make your builds stand out, but the new textures are meant to fit in to the background more. Or at least that's what it seems like from what I've seen. I do think the old texture of netherrack is better in the context you provided, but the new texture makes a lot more sense to me. After the initial shock of the nether wears off all you are left with is an eye piercing block. The nether becomes more a part of normal game experience to most people, but most people aren't going to want to interact with the blocks because they look bad. For the first time going into the nether the old texture is better, but for everything else the new texture makes more sense... although it would be nice if they could have struck a better balance between looking good and also making the dimension look unique(Even if I like the textures a lot more).

I feel like the old textures more captured that “retro feel” that the whole game was originally based off of. Not to say that the new ones are bad, they just seem too polished for that arcade style

So i remember this era well. What Always struck me was how many of the people who claimed to prefer the old textures, atleast in the groups I where in, so rarely used the base game textures anyway. While a lot of the people who liked the changes tended to be people who used the base game texture pack and made various kinds of builds, arts, buildings ect. Many of them found the new textures improved the art as they worked better off each other. One thing I remember thinking was that the new cobblestone and gravel texture really worked well for making large old builds that used such look a lot nicer, though it did ruin MissingNo arts that relied on the old gravel texture's glitchy look. Ultimately I think the change was needed and I find that most people who claim to like the older textures to either be clinging to the past or just kind of being contrarian. I'm sure there are some who genuinely like the old textures but a genuine old texture enjoyer is very rare. Also personally I find the new netherrack to be better. I get your position and it actually makes sense in theory. However I am someone who found the netherrack to be just, ugly, it wasn't scary because it was off putting it was just, offputting and ugly. I find the new netherrack to feel almost, fleshy, between the sound, the softness of the block and the texture i find it to come off as almost flesh-like now which to me is far more disturbing as a hell like dimension, and it goes well with the soul-sand and soul-soil blocks that make up some of the new biomes

Outside of the netherrack complaints. I think the older cobblestone(not the first) looked better then our current cobble. Just by a bit, since i feel like darker cracks helped sell that feeling of "its a bunch of rocks haphazardly mushed together"

Old Netherrrack looks like a bloody rock for me, like, imagine a cave covered in dry blood while (liquid) blood drops from the ceiling

I actually liked the old netherack texture because of the feel it gives to the nether as a whole, someone should make a hybrid texture that is a little less stranding on the eyes then model all of the other nether based textures too fit that same theme.

I dont mind the new netherrack I kinda feel like it looks like flesh (along with the sound it makes when you walk on it) which makes it more eerie

The old Nether felt like the old doom games so it gave you more of hell feeling where the new one is kinda bland. In that regard, I do agree some of the older texters do look better in some case, but then again I don't use vanilla textures I use Chroma Hills, I've use chroma hills for so long I don't even know vanilla textures so I get confused on what is what with vanilla lol

I always liked the old netherack. The new one looks kinda smooth, almost plastic like, and has darker colors with h make it look cooled down which definitely does not describe the Nether. The old one looks very rough, and chipped away at, while having bright coloring to signify that it’s very hot, and just fits with the Nether more.

The old netherack repeating pattern makes me extremely nauseated when traveling long distances in nether tunnels, like on 2B. Other than that block I prefer the old textures.

The netherrack change was probably due to the original block looking like a pile of flesh, just like those gory games where u navigate a room made of ur own skin and all. Mojang probably saw it like this too and changed it cause it was way too gory

I never liked how smooth everything looked so smooth with new textures

Tbh I kinda miss the old texture but the new ones is just much more better in my opinion.

I will always remember the unique "doom clone" feel of the old textures. The new textures looks like they could come from any indie game

I like all the new texture changes, all great imo

I am a returning older Minecraft player who originally picked it up in the beta days during high school. My friend in high school was playing it even before I was in the alpha days and when it was a browser game. After having abandoned it in I think it was mid 2013. I did briefly play it on the switch, but not really enough to experience all the new stuff added to the game. I am just starting to get back into Minecraft and I like the newer textures more. They are a lot easier on the eye despte still being 16x16 px However, I almost always used a texture pack anyway (even back then) so it doesn't bother me much. Also, the nostalgia craft texture pack exists for those people who miss the alpha look.

From a lore prespective, I like that the new netherrack texture reflects the growth/ recovery of the nether from whatever devastated it in the first place. We have ruined portals and bastion remnants suggesting the nether was once developed and full of life. Version 1.0 could be after the nether was turned into the hellish landscape, and post-1.16 would be the nether regenerating with new plants and biomes. Netherrack too changes to show that the nether isn't so foreboding anymore.

Netherrack is actually one of my favourite texture changes they've had tbh. I always found the old texture a bit too much in the context of the nether because of just how vast it all seemed. Pure eye strain to work down there for too long on farms. The addition of the nether biomes and the softening of the texture itself I think was a really good balance. I don't think the new texture makes it any less of an uneasy feeling, especially for players who weren't around for the old one.

i used the programmer art for quite some time, but more and more mods started to update their blocks to the newer textures, so i just gave up

I started around 1.3 - 1.5 and it wasn't the new textures that got me back. So much has been added in the last ten updates that it's like a new game now and that got me back. I started a 1.0 world too to have a world with an older atmosphere and textures. I think the new textures look good too.

I personally value the recognizability and Indie aesthetic the older textures introduced over these new ones. They're by far more stylistically consistent and less visually grating, but I feel retroactively fixing certain "mistakes" in a game with such a solid core identity takes away from it in a sense.

its actually alot harder to navigate nether now cuz everything just blends and you can easily just miss a turn in your tunnel when you are mining for debris for example and get lost forever. the amount of times that i was lost in those tunnels has substantially increased after the new update.

I wish there was a way to pick and choose in the game. I like how the old netherrack looked lore wise along with a few others but I like a lot of the new textures

I've had Minecraft for years, but never could get into it. I eventually downloaded a "Beta Textures" mod for 1.15.2, and that version of the game with the old textures finally got me into a game I've always enjoyed from a distance. For me, the old Textures made the difference between "Maybe later" and "That's neat".

As much as i loved the old textures and the nostalgia feeling they gave I think Minecraft needed this revamp in order for the game to continue and grow. The new textures are a lot better and smoother and when you look at them side to side you will thank the new textures. The new ones are just more polished and that's it nothing has changed but some people (like myself) will never overcome this feeling.

The OG textures weren’t only nostalgic, but better in some cases. Especially for Netherrack, I wish they just had a balance or an in-between design for that block where it’s not too smooth like it is now.

Honestly I love the old pre deep slate update ore design

I will forever be thankful that they allow for the classic textures in vanilla with Programmer Art. Personally, while I don't hate the current textures of Minecraft, I much prefer the classic textures due in no small part to being a nostalgia curmudgeon.

I am a resource pack creator, and still have many players asking for variants of my packs in a "programmer art" style to this day

You took the words out of my mouth when it came to Netherrack. First time in the nether, before the changes, natherrack gave a very heavy off putting feel.

I think after they change the textures then going back to old console and playing it again after 13 odd years it gave me so much nostalgia, I cried. Probably never doing it again but it’s show how strong nostalgia.

i did not watch the whole video, but defending the old netherack in the thumbnail is crazy