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His “You’re not the only one cursed with knowledge” to Tony Stark makes a lot more sense now

I wonder how many times Marvel "confirmed" a major theory like this one when in reality they were looking at fan theories and taking them to fix their messy plot holes lol

I thought him trying to stop the celestials emerging was a pretty good theory too.

this video revitalized my excitement for marvels future. changed my perspective on thanos. crazy to think avengers were trying to save their universe, but thanos was trying to save the multiverse. the theory of thanos having cosmic awareness has to be true because he knew about the multiverse while the avengers were stuck fixated on their universe (for good reasons). what if thanos reasoned with the avengers...you know what he couldent because like you said you cant really talk about the multiverse or it will give people ideas to mess with it and cause incursions.

Great theory. This would also explain why Thanos used the Time Stone so sparingly. He knew messing with the fabric of time too much could lead to unwanted results. Also, the way that Ant Man came back from the quantum realm by way of a rat “accidentally” stepping on the right buttons in correct sequence was so ridiculously convenient it could have only been orchestrated by some type of higher being (i.e. He Who Remains)

I would definitely love a future in the MCU where they have to “snap” Thanos back to get his help against Kang

The key line of thanos that makes me think that he not only knew about kang was his line “I am inevitable”. Even if the avengers stopped him on 1 time line, there are countless timelines were he succeeds regardless.

This would also make sense as to why Kang said he allows the timeline where Thanos blips 50% of everything and eventually gets beaten by the Avengers

Also remember when nebula was showing what her other self was going through, she told thanos that she was no traitor and that that wasn’t her. Thanos replied saying "I know" so that makes this theory correct because thanos knew that wasn’t nebula, at least not from his universe

"you are not the only one cursed with knowledge" Maybe this is part of why Thanos dropped that line. He is cursed with knowing of the multiverse war, etc.

I mean this is a plausible reason because even Loki, the first villain of the Avengers who terrorized New York, found himself terrified and on his knee at the end of his series after finding out Kang's Existence. So, that makes Thanos justified in grand scheme of things to prevent further universal turmoil because imagine if the Avengers finds out about Kang and how would they react after they killed Thanos when in fact he was the only solution.

what a video, really impressed about how well this theory sounds, thanks for all the effort in making this video

The writers at Disney should REALLY listen to you. These are VERY compelling theories. And WHO CARES if people 'see it coming,' a Good story, is a GOOD STORY. Especially if it ties the threads.

Interesting theory, but the rationale for the snap is weak. If the snap was truly random, then it would be an ineffective strategy to take out an ancestor of Kang, as there would be a multitude of variant universes where all of Kang's ancestors survived the Snap. Thanos spent far too much time and effort gathering the stones to use them for such a scattershot tactic, especially since he could presumably use the power of the stones to actually identify Kang's ancestors and hunt them down more surgically.

Wooooow dude you're brilliant, your theories have some serious depth. I have been looking for this type of content for a while

I think it's more likely that a Celestial Emergence is what destroyed Titan, since Thanos is an Eternal in the MCU.

A lot of people don't realize the true downfall of Thanos plan in the movie was he kept his word. Thanos has never been known to be a liar if you remember any conversations about him from Nebula, or the conversation between him and Gamora. When Strange asked him to spare Starks life, even though the snap was supposed to be set at random he kept Tony out the loop. I think that Strange knew that about him, and out of all the realities/ possibilities Tony had that one chance. Great movie ..but the comic had a way better storyline. Even though there are a couple elements I didn't like about the movie The Silver Surfer had the Hulk standing in for him and missed a great way to introduce Adam Warlock, plus that version of The Incredible Hulk from planet Sakarr would have given Thanos a run for his money, a much smarter, and stronger version of The Hulk. Fun Fact for those who don't read comics those trapped sacrificed to the Soul Stone aren't really dead but trapped in another dimension/soulverse/pocketdimension. Adam Warlock, and Silver Surfer got out if I remember correctly.

A lot of people liked Thanos, and I can see it being a huge success if they brought him back into the MCU as an ally against Kang. They even teased this in the What If series where he was friendlier. Maybe just to see how the audience would react? The only question I want answered is… Tony? Both were linked as characters who could see the future by observing how current events could unfold. If Thanos’s plan was deceptive, Tony would have worked it out. Are we going to get some big reveal that he laid out a plan that would stop multiversal threats before giving up his life?

Great theory, love the video. I think Thanos was also trying to stop the eternals from destroying other planets on top of trying to stop cane. Having the Infinity gauntlet was his way of killing two birds with one stone.

Man, I really hope someone at Marvel watches these analysis videos because I'd be so down to see some of this stuff work out

Theory: In the T’Challa being Star-Lord universe, T’Challa found out about Thanos and his true plan, and he decided to help him stop the war eventually, this is why it was so easy to persuade him and why T’Challa was chosen by The Watcher

Thanos plan didn't need to make sense to us, only to himself. This is why he's called the Mad Titan, he's so convinced that he's right especially after watching his people die after not listening to him that nothing anyone says will ever sway him. Gamora: You don't know that! Thanos: I'm the ONLY one who knows that. No one will ever convince him otherwise.

Lol this is freakishly on point to my theory as well! Glad I came across this video😊

That’s the most intricate video I’ve seen in a while. Nice!

*Some guy at Marvel, furiously jotting this down* “Man, we keep giving them plot holes, they just keep filling em.”

Imagine Thanos fighting an army of other Thanos. I would pay good money to see that!

That was a smooth segway lol... had me hooked

Thanos, the Hero We didn't Deserve. *REST IN POWER.*

This is so fascinating thanks so much for all the effort you put into this

Man this reminds of Professor Snape from the Harry Potter franchise. At first everyone thought of him a bad person doing what he's doing because he enjoys it, but in actuality it's the complete and utter opposite.

Well done Ryan! I like the sensibility of this theory! I wonder though how does the eternal stuff fits into all this …or doesn’t 🙏🏻😜

your videos never disappoint

This makes so much sense. to me it was always weird why did tva let avengers go this explains it amazing rayan 👍

Alternatively... Let's say you're right about Thanos knowing about the Multiversal war. Let's also say the theories that Kang's tem pads are based on the tech the Avengers used to travel through time are also right. In that case, it's possible that Thanos was making sure those devices were invented, because it's likely that whichever universe figured out time travel first would end up winning the Multiversal war. So he was ensuring the avengers had a reason to create the tech. This also feeds into how he seemed to know and fear/respect Tony Stark.

Man, Ryan can take an idea I laugh at and by the end of the video have me convinced. Well done once again, sir.

You’re amazing man!

This theory could help support the line, something like, "I know what it's like to lose, turns your legs to jelly." Etc. If he witnessed losing the multiversal war, that would be a significant jelly moment. If not this, what else in his life could he classify as such a major loss?

Amazing perspective Ryan, I would love to see some of this get unfolded through the mcu, just like you see it. It makes sense where phase 4 can follow 3. I kinda felt the TVA, was going to make what happened in phase 3 meaningless, but, this! Thank you. 👏 👏

This breakdown is amazing!! I suddenly feel the urge to watch every single marvel movie from the beginning

I see it as a “two birds with one stone” kind of thing. It would mean that after the war on Titan ravaged he also found some evidence of Celestials being born & thus found that removing half of the universe would both stop the war & stop the birth of more Celestials.

This is a really good theory. There are problems with it (matunos has a good critique), but it's better than the idea the movie gave. But it also drives home two things that _are_ canon but which neither fans nor writers have really grasped. First, Thanos's threat to destroy the entire universe. Second, the TVA routinely pruning timelines. _Those are not two different things._ Every time the TVA prunes a timeline, they're destroying an entire copy of the universe, including everyone in it. You might say that those people don't count because they are variants of people in the main timeline, but the Thanos who fought the Avengers after the Time Heist wasn't native to the main MCU timeline either. As far as he was concerned, he was from the main timeline and _they_ were the variants. Assuming he won the battle, he would presumably have reinstated the Snap, then returned to his own timeline and continued as before. But given the headache of trying to make sure that this other timeline's Snap remained in place, Thanos instead decided to just prune that whole timeline, then return to his own timeline to focus on creating his own future. It's a very different way of interpreting what seemed at the time like a very clear, straightforward speech.

Yo thanos was such an amazing villian. Not many villians make you understand their goal/cause as much as him. Which makes choosing a side very hard. Most villians are just bent on destruction bc of "hatred" or trying to rid the world of "weakness". I just appreciate how thanos actually makes sense and isnt some recycled super strengthed giant

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for making this video!

Did not expect this! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Excellent theory video as always the only past I would contest is the part about how thanos wasn’t surprised when he seen another nebula because when ebony maw told him there was in fact another nebula there he said “impossible”. So he did in fact seem surprised by the fact there were 2 nebulas. Now he very quickly adjusted to that (because movie stuff lol) but yeah he certainly seemed surprised at first.

"Thanos was a lot of things but he was not a liar." There, I said it. Theory disapproved.

Okay you had me sold on this theory as soon as you started going over the inconsistencies of the quantum realm, because that's been bugging me for a long time and this actually makes sense.

watching videos like this makes me realize that these movies are not "JUST MOVIES". Like they're so complex and with so many hidden meanings. I'm shooketh and even more in love with MCU!!

I’ll throw out this theory, what if in the attempt to stop the multiverse war he actually started it all. When the avengers went back in time to collect the time stones, they started the branching and birth of the multiverse. It goes back to what the ancient one said about the removal of the stones and the branching of the time line and the warning Tony gave of when you mess with time, time mess back. And it could be explain why the TVA did not interfere with the avengers meddling with the time stream, as it was all part of the plan to have The Loki varrient created and the female Loki to kill he who remains. Maybe there was a secret Kang in the background pulling the strings and orchestrating this.

Love this theory. Great video and content as always.

Thanos is what I like to call the “Snoopdog” of the Marvel universe- he knows at lot, a HELL OF A LOT of things that have happened to shape our time- just because one dosent speak on it, does not in any way mean they don’t have far more knowledge than we think.

Interesting theory and it would blow my mind if the MCU retconned his story to something similar to this theory. Cool to see so many people re-analyzing Thanos’ motives, especially after Eternals talks about the snap delaying the emergence.

This is so good and makes thanos soo much better as a character

Smooth plug!

Ryan sir, you are actually blowing my mind right now and I’m only half way through the video, sir.

I feel like some of the theory falls apart when, what I recently found out is that Kang himself has admitted to be afraid of Thanos and avoids him in all time lines. But I do agree that thanos is aware of the Multiverse, or Maybe this strengthens your theory...

At this rate, I won’t be surprised of a “Why Malekith was Right” video

That was a smooth ass transition to that ad my boy.

THIS video here makes sooo much sense..!!!! 🙏💯👊

The mark of a bad fan theory destroys the motivations and events in other aspects of the story. Same reason that bad retconning is bad. In Loki, it's explained clearly that Thanos was supposed to do the snap and the Avengers were supposed to bring everyone back but Loki was not supposed to get away using the tesseract. If He Who Remains meant for Thanos to succeed and alt Thanos to lose then Thanos is inconsequential to the end of time. If Thanos was there for the multiverse war, he understood it was no longer a threat. If he was actually motivated by stopping another universal war he would have just beefed up the MCU universes defenses are maintained control of the infinity gauntlet to fight off other universes. At the end of End Game Thanos explains pretty clearly that he expected hthe surviving half of the universe to accept their new fate and do better. Losing their loved ones would be a reminder of what overpopulation leads to. No. Thanos was the mad titan. He is driven by evil. He is controlled largely by his Deviant dna.

Awesome video. Needs more Doc Brown “You’re not thinking fourth-dimensionally!”

This is one your best theories

That B&B meme ceacked me up way too much!

Great theory, but I tend to believe it was something more cosmic. We’ll see in Eternals if it had to do with the Celestial’s, Eternals, or other cosmic entity.

Ryan. You have taken the MCU movies to another level. This is a very compelling and clean theory that makes those plot holes makes sense. Watching this video was like reading a Star Wars novel to fill in the gaps that the movies don't cover. Well done. 👍

Smoothest ad transition ever. I'm impressed.

Love it! 👍🏼

If Thanos is a veteran of the multiversal war, and then he said he knew Tony when they were fighting on Titan, maybe that means another version of Tony (maybe even multiple versions) fought in the multiversal war alongside Thanos :o

Even the way he loses isn’t like the generic “ evil villain throwing a fit in defeat “ he just sits down like “ I failed , there’s no hope “

Haha, awesome video!! I'm glad someone else saw this plot. I called my theory Thanos 1 and 2. Fitz and Simmons in Agents of Shield will explain more into time travel and how marvel is going to work Thanos back in as a good guy with an alternate Stark.

This just blew my mind

Great theory! Love your videos, always have an interesting take on the deeper meanings. Not really the place for this but the potato blight shouldn't be called a famine. It didn't kill a million people in Ireland, greed did. Literally tons of food was exported off the island by foreign landlords while the people starved.

The CG Thanos looks great and I understand why they went that route. Looking at the practical look with the makeup I think I prefer that for the face.

Very smart way to insert a sponsor. Bravo :)

That was the smoothest transition to a sponsor I have ever seen

This makes sense as to why he said what he said about Tony Stark. Tony Stark: You know me? Thanos: I do I hope they remember you. It all makes sense.

He was right about the hunger thing too. Objectively his final plan to leave no one alive from the old world and restart it all would have worked. He would have created a new perfected world. Everyone born into his paradise would thank him for creating it and Everyone who was snapped away would have no opinion of his actions because not existing is just like never having existed.

I am glad that there is something more about Thanos, never as some villain erupting life but something who or what he is trying to prevent.

Thanos last line could be even more evidence "I am inevitable" because of what he knows of the timelines, what must happen, and how he must be a part of it ..maybe even be part of it ... AGAIN

The assumption/calculation made estimating how long it would take for the snap’s effect to be reversed is very Earthcentric. His snap effected the entire universe. Some with life forms much different from our own and having no “Industrial Revolution” of their own.

I love how in the thumbnail it says "Thanos was right" and then flash forward to a month later and episode 1 of Hawkeye has this exact thing written on a stall....it's so strange and funny

I don’t know if this is the right interpretation but I certainly hope it is…it would be so cool to see. I also want Kang to show up and plant the mouse into the garage so it could run over the board and bring lang back from the quantum realm

Cant lie that was pretty smooth how u slid that sponsor in

I'm undecided if this is a great theory or if it's on the same level as Anya's bunny theory from the Once More With Feeling episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

okay so here's the thing Thanos is part of the Sacred Timeline the things that exist beyond this "Official History" are the TVA, He Who Remains, and the place where the TVA sends all their crap. Okay now He Who Remains has crafted the Sacred Timeline to prevent the "War of the Kang's" (what that exactly means we can only speculate) Now we see that time is a loop starting at the birth of everything and ending with the death of everything then it all starts again. Now here's the kicker everything was fine for millennia Until He Who Remains/Kang discovers there's a multiverse and how to travel between universes (he even states this out right) aaaaand well he discovers this fact around the year three thousand and something which ultimately means the destruction of Titan is at least a thousand years before He Who Remains discovers the multiverse. okay "Time Travel" the Kang's have Stark's Time Travel tech so one of them could have come back and destroyed Titan Right? well Yes they could have, and even if one of them did, say for some extremely rare resource only Titan has. well then this would just be an invasion how in the hell would Thanos even know this enemy is from a different universe unless in the exceptionally rare case that on the opposing side was a Thanos (highly unlikely because any one of a billion to the power of a billion things could and would be different in a different universe including that Thanos was never born) Now I'm no expert but based on Ultron's reaction alone Cosmic awareness doesn't grant you infinite knowledge or sight, because first off he would have just warped back to earth and finished the job by killing Nat, Barton, and Zola for good measure, he is able to See the Watcher and comes to the realization there are places beyond his universe based on this. and let's not forget Thanos only had the stones for a very short period of time and they were affixed to a gauntlet where as Ultron had the stone integrated into his very body with the Mind Stone being part of his consciousness which is why I believe he was able to gain cosmic awareness and what makes him so powerful as Ultron is basically the Infinity Stones Incarnate.

Mind-blowing stuff

This is an EXTREMELY interesting take. I would love the MCU to portray Thanos as basically all knowing like the recent Jim Starlin Comics not the classic infinity gauntlet. Also. Thanos in the movie does say to Gamora - “I’m the ONLY one that knows.”

Thanos could have just created an entire reality where there was no Kang, and then gave everyone double the resources.

Imagine a million different Thanos's just attacking each other.

That was the best use of Hulk's "Time Travel!" clip I've seen yet.

i totally agree bro!

The part about how time travel breaks the Fourth Dimension started making so much I forgot it was Science *fiction* and started treating it like an actual theory about reality.

While you guys debate this theory-I’m still coping with (I think) Ryan’s Harley Quinn impression at the 1:25 mark. It would make my day if I could confirm Ryan did the voice.

Lmao, the gimkit music in the background at the start.

This is insane. I love it

Thanos said "youre not the only one cursed with knowledge" maybe he knew that his path all along. because without his actions, tony would have never discovered how to time travel (This is stemming off of the theory that kang is a descendent of tony)

If thanos knew all of this, then he also knew that time traveling avengers would create more timelines. Wouldn't he then reveal his true intentions rather than just travel to the main timeline to snap only that timeline again? I mean it's way too convoluted and definitely not true. Interesting take tho

Makes sense. I could see how anyone with limited knowledge about multiverses and timelines (i dont think he knows about kang either) who had to deal with a multiversal war out of nowhere could think of doing something like this which they might think is for greater good and prevent another war. They might think it as a mercy, which they didn't had.

Love the Dr. Cox "wrong" hahaha