FSU wanted Louisville over UConn. Other old school ACC schools UConn. FSU got its way there.

​@jonboxleitner7354 The ACC wanted to change their original TV contract by adding Stanford, Cal, and SMU but none of their existing members signed a new GOR for the new TV contract.

To placing every single conference championship inside the state of North Carolina

FSU just missed on aau the last time and they will make it next time.

Many think it's a requirement but it's really a strong preference. They are in good enough academic standard and probably will be AAU soon, so the Big Ten won't dismiss them because them joining the conference makes it stronger. It's "keeping up with the Jones's" now and with FSU working towards the AAU status, they wouldn't let that be the hold up.

Miami ight be of interest to the B1G because of its TV market and fan support, also it recently became a member of the AAU so that adds more interest.

FSU has to join the B1G if they ever want to get voted into the AAU because there is no incentive for the B1G to go out of their way to help FSU get voted in if they go to the SEC.

The B1G should also give a serious thought about adding Clemson for their brand value. The B1G has the academic resources and influence to help them improve their academics. They could easily get Clemson to agree to an academic improvement plan to help them get voted into the AAU, within about a decade, by investing some of their extra B1G revenue into improving their academics. If the B1G can add ND, FSU, UNC, Clemson, Miami, and Texas A&M then they would put the SEC out of business because they would be paying their football players double.

They have names. They even put them up for you to READ. 🙄

Academically FSu is closer to Big10 schools than SEC! And that's really important to FSU and the Big10.

Well, if you're in the top 20 you're also in the top 50, so technically, his facts are correct.

@@jona.scholt4362 I knew someone was going to say this...lol

@@richardbrookins5406 I just couldn't help myself 🙂

@@jona.scholt4362 douchbags are just going to be douchbags…😂

@@jona.scholt4362 if you follow the conversation…it’s about the context

Say it louder. FSU players, alumni, students, fans, never forget that Miami decided to have no spine. Let’s make them feel that until the end of time.

Justice OK St, tied to OU, Tx Tech tied to A&M, and UT. VT to Va, NC to NC St., and etc.... it's all about green, and greed, not AAU, not how they do on the field.

That’s not the true story , Miami voted to talk about during FSU , they never agreed to sue , IF FSU loses all taxpayers in Florida will have to pony up to pay the fine by the ACC

@@Almighty5-ww1klThat’s not gonna fly. Clemson very publicly announced that they were not one of the ten that voted. Miami has only said that they FULLY support the ACC in every way. I guarantee you that they voted to bring suit. They don’t have a landing spot and want to make it as difficult as possible for the teams that do. I understand their position.

@@tomsmithdeal775 they already said on another podcast that they only voted to talk about it , why would Miami want the ACC to sue FSU , FSU is a public institution in Florida , if you sue them then everyone in the state of Florida has to foot the bill because FSU is ran by the state , So that means everyone has to pay that pays taxes in Florida , do you really thank Miami wants to help foot a bill for FSU , you gotta thank about thangs before you react , both Miami fans and UF fans in the state of FLORIDA that pays taxes is going to have to foot the bill if FSU loses its court case in either North Carolina or Florida

Was a Marching Chief over 2 decades. At no time then, or since then, that we ever talked about Ohio State. Manner of marching is a strange claim to fame, Charlie has been gone longer than most members are old, and Whit was gone before I started about 60 years ago. Most ideas, marching, playing and philosophy have progressed leaps and bounds. The Chiefs are part of the highly respected music school at FSU. There are lots of good bands across the nation. Each has attributes that help showcase each band. I would have to tell you that there's not much similarity between these 2 schools.

Last I heard, Nebraska was working to re-attain AAU status. When that will actually occur is anyone's guess.

Nebraska needs to have an on-campus hospital. Sounds like they're trying to merge UNO's hospital back into the system to fulfill that requirement. They also need to boost research dollars so that'd help by consolidating all UN campuses under one flag just like Michigan and Penn State. I think the one person erred in saying Notre Dame wasn't AAU. They earned AAU status last year along with Miami.

@@heartbreak25 Yea, we realized that was in error after the fact, apologies about the misstep with the ND AAU status. But yes, with Nebraska, they put a lot of stock into medical research and not necessarily agricultural stuff, so that was the reason for Nebraska's getting pulled.. It was basically known when they were accepted into the Big 10 in 2010 that they would be losing it soon after, but they are working to retain it.

@@Bigtenshow All good! I think the AAU/academic stuff does get confused in the broader discussion. I don't think the B1G would ever reject UGA, Bama, or LSU if they wanted to join any time over the last 10 years. I also don't think they'll just accept any big brand school regardless of academics. I assume with everything else being equal, there has to be some type of genuine effort to improve on the academic/research side to be comparable to the other B1G programs.

@@heartbreak25 Exactly, part of the reason I brought up Florida State's plan to achieve AAU status is because it may have been something you can use as a requirement BEFORE all of this realignment, but now it is about money, the B1G would absolutely bend to squeeze someone in as long as they are in good academic standard and/or working towards AAU status. It is in no way a requirement, but also a standard that the Big Ten cannot drift TOO far away from at the same time.

Dreaming !! You are out because Georgia doesn’t want you and Florida doesn’t want FSU…truth be known!! SEC wants NC and Va….will take Miami and Clemson as protection of territory only. Notre Dame the reluctant bride be damned. And Big 10…if they go to 30 schools in three divisions …already have 20….cant spread the butter too thin!! You are way down the list!! Notre Dame, FSU, North Carolina, Virginia, Miami, then Clemson…the pecking order starts there…after that….it is just a wild guess…but NC State, VaTech, Duke, Pittsburgh …are better choices….with Duke, Syracuse, Ga. Tech, Wake, and BC. All After the top tier…with the new kids…Stanford, Cal. and SMU …just too late to make a difference…only a strategic move that will backfire and drag you down!!

Apologies for the error when we were discussing that topic, we realized it after the fact.

​@@Bigtenshow"all the schools in the Big Ten aren't aau schools. They were when they entered but they are no longer"?

​@trick7884 Nebraska was when they were accepted but immediately lost it the next year. They had anticipated Nebraska losing it and knew that in June of 2010 when they accepted them into the conference initially. That's why I point to it being more of a strong preference than a requirement as most may think

​@trick7884 Nebraska only lost it because there is such an emphasis on medical research and less on agricultural studies etc, however Nebraska devised a new reporting criteria that will eventually lead to them being accepted back in

Umm bro once the two super leagues emerge and have automatic bids with NFL style playoffs ND will be watching it on their couch!😂

You're correct, it wouldn't. It is a common misconception that it is a "requirement", when in actuality it is a strong preference. FSU is working towards AAU status and in good enough academic standing that they would be nothing but an asset to the conference

FSU has to join the B1G if they ever want to get voted into the AAU because there is no incentive for the B1G to go out of their way to help FSU get voted in if they go to the SEC.

Oregon is a AAU member. That just makes the Presidents happy, nothing more. It’s Oregons tv rankings is why they received an invite. Out of the 4 new teams from the PAC, they’ve consistently ranked in the top 15 in the nation for most watched teams. It’s those tv eyeballs that earn revenue from FOX.

That's why the B1G needs to add ND, FSU, UNC, Clemson, Miami, and Texas A&M. Then they can put the SEC out of business because they will be paying their players double. Even the B1G bottom feeders will be able to poach the best players from the SEC because they can pay them more, a lot more.

@@roris5882 UNC??? Yup, they just scream football powerhouse. Great list, except UNC

Umm! It's all about the academics! Northwestern brings in more money then LSU does and in the end its about money and all those schools you named are cash cows😂

​@@jimedick9496umm hey kid once NC joins they become a powerhouse because high school kids will get paid more to go there then LSU! This realignment is gonna make new powerhouse schools. All you know is about to change bro.

@@brentmichael4770 Do I look like a kid? From reading your other comments, you have NO clue what you’re talking about. The realignment has NOTHING to do with academics and everything to do with TV ratings!!! If I’m wrong, then why the hell did the B1G pass up schools like Stanford and Cal and their billion dollar endowments for Oregon and Washington? TV Ratings!!!! You can sell advertisements at a premium price when there are more eyeballs watching. Simple economics. I’ll give you a quick education. Endowments are NOT shared among conference members. They do however, share the researched information. So what can they share financially? The only thing that can be financially shared is the TV Media Rights agreement. The B1G just signed a media package with a revue that totaled 8 billion dollars from Fox, NBC, and CBS that goes till 2029-2030 season. With the information I gave you, is the B1G going to invite a team that doesn’t pull a high tv audience? No!!!! Why is that? Because it dilutes the current members over all revenue share. You see, they’re not paying more than the 8 billion. So divvy that up with 16 teams for the next 7 years and it comes out to the $60-$70 million per team, per year. So if you bring in a team prior to the contract expiring, the pie gets cuts into smaller shares, meaning, less payout per school. Now, the B1G was willing to take in Oregon and Washington because both programs rank nationally as some of the most watched college football teams in the country. Oregon typically sits somewhere from 10th-15th while Washington sits anywhere from 15th to 25th. Stanford and Cal sit typically in the mid to high 40’s. Same with UNC, they are almost tied at bringing in the same tv audience rankings. Fact is, those three do not garnish an invite because they’re not worth it, regardless of the academics!!!

AAU membership is a preference it's not mandatory ... As long as you're not let's say Clemson who has never been know for being a good school the B1G will more than likely overlook AAU membership they'd take FSU right now an FSU isn't an AAU member still a top 25 public school nationally just isn't AAU yet and as much BS as there has been between the B1G and Notre Dame over the years I don't think their has been a point in the past 50 or so years where the B1G would have turned down Notre Dame regardless of their academic standing with the AAU ... I think the B1G will lower it's standard to get profitable programs but I still think the B1G will always maintain a very high standard when compared to most programs in the SEC

AAU member in 2023

Given the Big 10's recent track record on inviting AAU schools (USC, UCLA, Washington, Oregon), I'd say AAU membership is a STRONG preference in the eyes of the Big Ten Presidents. The "AAU is not a requirement" statement was made by Kevin Warren, who is long gone. Big Ten will bide their time until FSU is invited to the AAU, then they will make their move to invite FSU to the conference.

@@dantesinfernopurgatory7826 They won't have the opportunity to get FSU if they wait for them to get AAU membership because FSU will also get a SEC invite which leaves the B1G forced to take a much less valuable program to get in the FL market it also means watching the most valuable NCAA sports brand in the Southeast not currently in the SEC sign with the competition

@@dantesinfernopurgatory7826 that is a coincidence. Those teams were add for their football TV money and recruiting footprint and to destroy Pac 12 and give Big 10 market share. AAU has nothing to do with it. It's not a tough choice to make "who should I poach, USC or Arizona State" "who should I poach Oregon or Oregon State".

So that's why their Field Goals always go in.

@@roris5882 if only!!!!!

@@roris5882 Nope, that's why they missed. Because the magnetic lab was not built. 🤣🤣🤣

So why is Miami (that cost a lot more) harder to get in to. U of F is even harder to get in to. Yes. Miami, then Florida, then FSU.

MIT is Private.

VT cant touch UNC athletics

They are already dealing with a $25M+ annual deficit compared to the B1G. So that's a lot of donor money they have to pump into their sports programs just to be able to compete on a level playing field with the B1G.

You people are so tiresome, unlike schools like Ohio State who runs sporting deficits, Notre Dame makes money every year. And as far as donors, find me another football school with as many rich Wall Street alumni who donates.

@@bleiburg101 What is ND going to do when FSU, Clemson, UNC, and the remainder of their most valuable members leave the ACC? Is ND going to agree to get their pay cut or are they going to join the B1G?

The point is, many think it is a requirement for them to have AAU status, when it is a strong preference. And if you don't think that the B1G won't bend that for a couple of schools that can boost their bottom line with those network TV deals, then you're mistaken. Money talks these days.

​@@BigtenshowWould the Presidents be willing to offer full shares to ACC teams in the middle of the media deal? I would be surprised if they did, just because they set a precedent last year when they added Wa/Or at half shares till the next deal in 2030. The west coast schools would almost assuredly vote no on that regard. I just don't see the school Presidents wanting to have to deal with the drama of offering full shares to a school who like you said isn't even an AAU University.

@@brothermouzone1307 I hear they are looking at the Big 12. No AAU, gotta go. Should've been removed once they lost AAU status.

​@@brothermouzone1307how you know

​@@brothermouzone1307😂😂😂😂 wrong

I just think they are a perfect fit for the SEC. Big 10 would probably love to have them

They will get an invite before AAU status

Unless FSU is ready before that... then they will take them before the AAU comes for FSU. Remember, the BIG10 is only going to have one chance to add FSU... the state of Florida is HUGE.

5-10 years is possible. 1-3 years is unlikely.

@@trick7884 Notre Dame's invitation to the AAU means anything is possible. And they're not exactly a research powerhouse.

The B1G will add FSU as soon as they leave the ACC because they already have the academics to qualify for their AAU membership and the B1G already has the academic influence to help them get voted in.

Notre Dame was accepted into the AAU last year.

Exactly. It puts less emphasis in things like agriculture etc... and more on medical

Yup, the B1G has a monopoly over the AAU Board. That's why FSU has to join the B1G if they ever want to get voted in.

First UNC needs to grow a pair and finally file suit before they can go to the BIG 10 or 12.

UNC does , but NCSTATE and the other public universities have control of the politics.

UNC will be in the B1G!!!

@@JoeyAugustineLOL. Two big problems though. First is that viewership is the new currency of college football. It’s what pays the bills. Eyeballs = Money. No eyeballs, no money. UNC ranks #46, behind several G5 schools. Nobody watches them, not even in their own state. FSU, Clemson, Miami and Duke attract more viewers in NC than UNC among ACC schools. Fox is not going to pay anything for them. Secondly, the B1G has said that any addition would have to, in their words, “pay their own way”. That is, they would have to, at minimum, earn enough revenue to equal the payout. UNC cannot even come close. Look up how much they earned the ACC last year.

@@tomsmithdeal775 theres a lot more then just viewership. UNC brand and alumni is enormous obviously there Brand is up there with the Ohio States and Alabamas. If they join the B1G they can invest more money for the B1G it would be a grab. Plus a lot of B1G alumni is moving south to the Carolinas and Florida. B1G doesnt have many east coast teams (Maryland and Rutgers) only ones. FSU UNC ND and Miami will be the 4 teams the B1G will snag up.

Yikes! You must not have heard about NIL PAYOUTS TO PLAYERS. The conference schools will pay high schoolers way more money then ND can! Why would you go to ND when a new BIG10 team like NC is gonna pay you triple to play there😂😂

@@brentmichael4770 NIL deals are set up through collectives run by third-parties and funded completely by boosters. It has nothing to do with what conference the school is in

Make The Big Ten TEN Again. And go back to the approximate conferences of 1990 before SEC went to 12. Put ND and the old Eastern Independents together as well. The people would love it.

The B1G and SEC will create their Super League, with the 50 most valuable schools. The G-8s can then create their 80 Team Super League, just like they want.

To clarify, i mainly meant selfish in their battle against the NIL for so long and finding ways to not compensate players as a way to give them more money and control.

@@Bigtenshow Okay, but why did the NCAA resist compensating players? It was the schools that couldn't afford to pay the players that resisted -- and their votes far outnumbered those of the schools that could afford to. Regardless, the NCAA and the schools still aren't compensating the players beyond room, board, and tuition. NIL comes mainly from boosters and is basically bribery that is corrupting and ruining the sport.

The NCAA and greedy universities used their football players as a source of cheap slave labor for the last 100+years. It's not the football players obligation to pay for the non-revenue generating sports, just because the greedy universities stole their TV revenue and claim that's what they spend it on.

There isn't really any truth to that, that has been speculated in the past as well. Nebraska is too big of a brand and brings in far too much money, they are also working towards regaining their AAU status which seems far more reasonable and likely than a removal of Nebraska.

Just UNL posturing for academic donations and more state funding IMO.

The Nebraska Administrators are the only ones mentioning it. So it sounds like they are just pressuring their state officials and people inside their school to help them regain their AAU membership to benefit their university financially.

So bascially the folks at the big 12 is spreading misinformation 😒

AAU

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Definitely, without a doubt right now Oregon is a bigger brand, however, with USC being a blue blood and still a top brand in college football, if they get that defense back and back to winning, they will climb up, however, Dan Lanning will also be bringing Oregon's brand up even more over the next few years. Currently, Oregon without a doubt is situated the best in that regard though.

I think he was just mentioning a few schools as an example and those were the first one's that popped in his head.

USC is a historical college football blue blood. Pittsburgh doesn't add anything to the B1G because they already have the flagship university in the state of Pennsylvania.

0regon has zero national championships, you guys aren't in USC's class. I'm not sure of the all time record for USC vs 0regon, but I'm sure USC is way ahead. History matters beyond the last 20yrs and that's how long 0regon has been and once the Nike guy kicks the bucket, they will go back to being an afterthought. Woof.

​@@BigtenshowLanning? That's funny, since the guy is an awful in game coach. Personally I hope Lanning stays a long time, 0-3 vs Washington.

As a Nebraska fan and Native Houstonian, I would LOVE to see Houston added to the B1G, but not sure how feasible that could be considering they JUST got to the Big 12 lol

Texas A&M is disgruntled because the SEC backstabbed them.

@@roris5882 I would have cared before they "Stole Jumbo" but since they got stuck with him I still really don't care.

@@richardbrookins5406 Yup, he was passed his time when he left FSU because college defenses caught up to his offensive scheme and he was unwilling or never able to adjust to remain on the top of the sport. A&M was actually better known for their defenses while he was there, the side of the ball he doesn't even coach.

Probably, they have all the resources they need to become a football superpower. Just like Stanford or Cal, if their Presidents and administrations cared about football then they would have good football programs.

The arrogant SEC schools have said they dont want FSU

Those are future Fox, CBS, and NBC properties.

There all filed in different states so idk where you going with this lol

I think you might be the clueless one in this.

They all have separate damage claims. Plus nobody from the ACC signed the new GOR after the ACC chose to change their original TV contract by adding 3 new members. So the ACC members can leave whenever they want. By the time they fight it out in court, over the next 10 to 20 years, the ACC probably won't even exist.

The SEC backstabbed Texas A&M. So the B1G should try to add them while they are disgruntled. The B1G can pay them more for sports AND academics, so that's financial security that the SEC cannot match.

Tech is at the bottom of the Big 12 academically. Does the Big 10 really need that?

Switch it. Miami is AAU and the biggest media market in the state.

@@cavediverjoeMiami is poverty, they bring no ratings they aren’t serious about winning and their AD literally said they are fine with staying in the ACC

@@cavediverjoethat won’t matter. FSU will be AAU accredited in the next 2-3 years if not sooner, on top of having a top 10 viewership in football, compared to Miami who is AAU accredited is a very small private school and doesn’t provide anything on the football side. The media market isn’t based on city. It’s based on the college team in that state . Miami isn’t even in the discussion for Big 10/ SEC realignment

@@cavediverjoe No on campus stadium. More tarp than fans in stands at home games.

FSU is a large state university, with a large alumni and fan base. Miami is a rinky dink private school, with a tiny alumni base and a non-existent fan base that hasn't been seen in the last 20+ years.

FSU will turn the SEC down if the B1G offers them an invite ... It's simple the B1G elevates FSU academically and makes them the only program in FL with a TV deal with FOX ... Why be just another SEC team when you can be one of the most programs with the most TV exposure in the country especially when ESPN who has the TV deal with the SEC has such a bad history with you ... The SEC is FSUs backup plan they've turned them down before and I think they'll do it again

It's easy cough up $50 million

No way they go to the SEC. They would make the same money in the SEC just what they are making in the ACC!!!!

FSU can make Billions in the B1G or Millions in the SEC.

Says who😅

Not a chance

Well, good thing you’re not making that decision. FSU ranked top 4 last year in TV ratings nationally. That matters. FSU is a big brand regardless of others opinion.

@@Jonas-nf2bc FSU will never be B1G.

FSU has gotten very close to AAU membership and has won more and brought in more money than most of the programs in the B1G you're delusional if you think the B1G wouldn't take FSU

@@daveowens9849 Maybe, but if they are not I can assure you it will have nothing to do with AAU membership status.

@@daveowens9849don’t be surprised lol FSU and ESPN have a broken relationship

Money wasn’t as big as difference as it is now due to ESPN

FSU wants to make Billions in the B1G and not Millions in the SEC.

@@JackedupSales Bullshit the SEC has always been where the real men played but FSU where scared little bitches when they where offered to join SEC knew they would get their asses kicked like Georgia did this year. If your scared your scared.

They're not AAU

@@ChrisSadowski-pp1np meant Notre Dame. Corrected.

@@webmoore4353 your right 👍

You would be correct, slipped his mind that they made it in there last go around. We will try and prevent that in the future 🙏