Why does it take years to get this info ? Because like anything else it’s ran by humans. Idiots.

Mamba Forever. 💙

I can never forget this incident😭😭😢😢

@@SticksAandstonesBozo Because a shit ton of work has to be put in to figure this stuff out - the why, how, who, when, etc. After crashes, they literally put aircraft back together piece by piece. And I mean every single piece. That is one reason; I am sure it’s not the only one.

Mamba out💗😥

Shouldn’t have to cost you your own job

@@heytherebato actually, it can

@@heytherebato That's life, it does. I've been fired for doing what they taught us at the CRM classes, I've declared myself "unfit for flight" when I was feeling really poorly. Corporate culture can be very harsh.

@@Cloud-js6lf Indeed. It's sadly pretty common. There's always another pilot willing to take on the flight, no matter conditions. 🤢

@@thefreedomguyuk so you're still a pilot or nah?

The most used comment on this video.

A.K.A. aaliyah or JFK Jr.

To this day I believe Kobe was flying that helicopter. He never stood back from a challenge and when the pilot said he couldn’t fly Kobe did.

@@heathwilkie5211 No because it was the pilot in the helicopter and it crashed with the pilot in the board

Just imagine, had the pilot said no him, Kobe, Gianna and the others would still be alive. Sad

Agreed.

The same is true with driving...well...add hundreds of people on any giving day

With the amount of commercial jets flying around the world on a daily basis it's a marvel of human ingenuity that more of them don't go down.... in saying all that I'd rather walk to my destination than get in a small plane or helicopter. Those things seem to fall out of the sky like raindrops.

This idiot needed a co pilot he didn’t even know that the plane was banking

Thanks Krillin!

Isn’t there someone that says, no IFR flights today? We have government agencies for everything it seems. If there is then why didn’t they ground IFR flights or at the very least have pilots avoid that area knowing the weather was to bad.

@@gbpg2016 I think you mean VFR, not IFR. These conditions were fine for IFR. And yes, there are rules for when you can fly VFR and they were not met. The towers controllers would not have cleared him for VFR and they did not. The problem is the pilot here used SVFR or SpecialVFR. These let you fly VFR is conditions that are well below normal VFR weather. They are supposed to only be used to either quickly get to good weather for takeoff or landing or if the weather changes fast and you can no longer fly VFR. The pilot used it as a trick to fly in bad weather and not what it is intended for. But also, the controllers can not see what is happening everywhere so it is really on the pilot anywhere except in airport areas to follow the rules and maintain VFR flight. We can only speculate as to why the pilot did what he did, but in the end it was abhorrent decision making that got 7 people killed.

I remember that day well, my friend spent the previous night at my house because the fog was so thick we couldn't even see down the block. By the morning it was manageable to drive in, but still way too dense to fly in. Mr. Zobayan should've diverted to Whiteman and called an Uber XL to finish the job. Such a shame.

Lol. "When the weather is bad we will only let pilots fly visually. And if the weather is good we will make all pilots black out their windows." -former FAA employee who wanted to do less work.

I live in LA and I remember this vividly, it was so cloudy/foggy that my first thought when I got the news was “who would fly in this weather”?

Police helicopters were grounded that day!

Totally fine if on an IFR flight plan and the pilot is IFR current. No problem at all. I know the helicopter was not IFR certified at that point in time, I think I read somewhere that the pilot was not current. That's a very different thing. Every six months I have to log six instrument approaches to maintain currency. The FAA prefers that I go out and fly in real conditions, which means that from the final approach fix to the end of the runway I can't see the runway for part of the flight. Where I am located, the FaFs are all at 2,000 feet, so clouds have to be lower than that for me to log an actual approach. There are other options, but doing it in real conditions is good experience and the FAA encourages that. Most police helicopters are going to need VFR conditions. Can't chase cars or criminals while in the clouds, LOL.

I still can't understand why the pilot flew in those conditions. He continued circling instead of turning back to the airport, until the fog lifted. We may never know!

@@tamrabrown3261 He wanted to please. He’d always gotten Kobe to his destination before. Kobe wouldn’t fly with any other pilot. He really trusted this guy. Oops…

I understand. It must have been a very difficult decision to decide to fly in heavy fog, that day! I'm sure that he was an experienced pilot, otherwise; Kobe would not have hired him!

Did you know anyone who was on board this helicopter?

And the other people....

Bruh

spiderman into the spiderverse< crazy accident!

Same here

🖕HER how about that

I mean, it was a pretty public event. You don't have to be Kobe Bryant for an LA helicopter crash to make the news.

Who cares? She was handed generations of wealth and did nothing but lay on her back. Id say it's a fair trade

I ALSO SAY NO TO N72EX AND THE MANUFACTURER.

@@Fakewhack-st8fl you sound ignorant, disrepectful and jealous!

Isnt it crazy they were near the mamba facility couldve landed near there and got a ride smh

That’s an assumption that you clearly are just making up. You knew Kobe personally? You ever her fly him ANYWHERE? The fuckin nerve of everyone including you just assuming that kobe would’ve fired the guy for telling him it was not safe to fly fuckin baffles my mind. How stupid does that sound?

@@ThePancakee Yeah but dont you know, Kobe was FAR TOO GOOD to sit in a car! He used to demand to take the chopper even if he was just going a mile down the road. I guarantee the pilot never wanted to fly but Kobe gave him no choice, either fly or loose your job and never work in this town again.

@@luisn818 what? What the hell are you talking about? Lmfao. I’m not going to even justify replying to you. That was the dumbest comment I have read in a while. Go back and read what I wrote. Who the hell said anything about Kobe’s reaction? And fired who? The helicopter belonged to a company who hired the pilot. Not Kobe. Are you a pilot? If not, Stfu.

Absolutely false, the pilot is responsible. Saying “no” is a pilots duty when flying isn’t safe.

Conditions at John Wayne Airport were ok at time of departure. Part of the problem was that Island Express or Ara didn’t have a contingency plan if things went south. He had an opportunity to land at Van Nuys but instead tried to scud run, probably due to get-there-itis.

@@stellarwind1946 He also had an opportunity to follow route 118, which was clear at the time and would have got him to within two miles of his destination. I presume that he preferred his known route along 101.

Did u kill anyone overseas?

@@hb1338 I fly out of KCMA regularly, and the 101 is the best route under VFR for him because it takes him within a half mile. Problem is you can be in great VFR conditions East of the Conejo grade and then right at the top it can go IFR as the Conejo Valley holds the layer. In my opinion he was doing ok until he reached the point where he started his climb. In his current conditions, he should have known if he had enough experience with the area that the chance of finding a hole in the layer that thick to descend through from 4000 would be extremely unlikely, and that a climb in IMC (instrument meteorological conditions) was a violation in itself. I fly fixed wing, so Im not sure at his low altitude if he would have been able to pick up Camarillo's ATIS (automated terminal information service) which provides the weather. Mountains might have blocked the signal. He also had other options with an app that most pilots have called ForeFlight that could have supplied that information both pre and in flight. Lastly, I also agree with poster "just fearless" that upon approaching that IMC wall, a 180° turn back to Van Nuys was the best option for everyone. Ive had to explain to passengers before that the weather is bad and the risk is great. Their response that you're not willing to risk their safety has always been positive. I would hope that getting a limo from VNY would have still got them there close to schedule, and KB wouldn't have complained.

Obviously I'm not a pilot, but once the cloud ceiling was lower than the closest to the ground he could fly due to land elevation rising, then you just turn around and say, hey Van Nuys, got a parking spot?. Then get them a cab for the last 10 miles. That is what common sense person would do. Every decision up to that point was ok, then suddenly not, and suddenly dead.

Agreed. It is more dangerous when you are flying because you are still in the air, and you aren't worried about horizontal collisions but also vertical collisions.

What goes up must come down.

Dare say if it wasn't Bryant they wouldn't be flying

​ @CooManTunes spiderman into the spiderverse< crazy accident!?

yes crying for an almost billionaire who doesn't even know you exist. sounds good to me.

​@@classic-superette what kind of crap that is to say people can be so evil in this world what a statement smh 😡😡

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

😥😥😥😢😢😢😭😭😭

Thank you.

Respect to you, people get caught up in celebrities, some dont remember they had to crawl before they could walk like everyone else. They all perished together so each life was special to their loved ones. May they all rest in peace.

But you did anyways. You don't have to say a name to imply it... why even say that at all?? You feel better about yourself now?

Sounds like you're just missing the money because that's all you knew...

was it a whore house?

you guys were devastated bc there went the $300 tips

no mo 300 dolla tips so yeah they wept

@@monilparikh5171 😂

Very well said.

Thank you

For anybody unaware: if Kobe had gone to prison for raping that chick, he'd still be alive😏

Well, evidently this one either didnt train himself enough, or got to complacent due to years of experience "flying with his eyes", as in relying on way too much looking out the window instead of looking at the instruments. I say this b/c in the video he clearly says he is climbing, when in actuality he was descending. While personally not a pilot, I have experienced something similar scuba diving in very poor visibility, and getting vertigo and not knowing my depth except by my depth gauge [aka vertigo].

Spatial disorientation......yeah maybe in 1960...today we have computers...and controll towers to stop this from happening...face the pilot dropped the ball and do did the tower

Life is very grey

@@yallhavefun this was unnecessary though they should have just went another way

Thank you ALL the young children not just one celebrity kid. I'm tired of hearing the name. Other people deserve respect 🙏

Should have stayed away from the rapist

Good. If you love the lord, you’ll know that those people onboard had it coming and it was what “God” had planned for them.

Do you think the passengers knew something was up?

It's no joke, but also no problem for an instrument-rated pilot who's maintained proficiency. Unfortunately, the accident pilot had fallen out of proficiency.

I was on flying in a reaistic flight simulator when I heard the news, I thought it was a dream for a few moments.

that has gone so quickly. feels like a few months ago when my hero Kobe and all those passengers lost their lives. RIP to all

me too😥

it appears u can almost set your watch on when NTSB produce there reports

Psst, who cares?

Amen. Hello how are you doing?

I just want to cuddle u n tell u everything is ok

What a refreshing comment. While it’s important for the cause of safety to place blame where it belongs, that is not to demonize a pilot for her/his mistakes that lead to tragedy.

Agree....

Before, in the 70's, 80's, 90's, passengers on flights used to give big applauds to the pilots after landing. Then we read that pilots hate it, that it shouldn't be a surprise to the passengers that the pilot managed to land the plane😁peole stopped clapping and the last 20years I haven't heard anyone clap, allthough, in my mind I clap so hard that my brains expload every time...

I visited home when my daughter was about 9 months old. On the return flight, I waited for everyone else to get off, because I had luggage, her car seat and her. It was alot. The captain making sure everyone was off saw me struggling and grabbed my daughter and her car seat. When we finally emerged behind the last passengers, her dad was all jealous 🤣. Apparently that captain got a huge thrill out of carrying my baby and her seat 😏. That was 22 years ago, and I still remember that random moment of kindness.

Amen to that. Ground not very forgiving to an aluminum tin can.

Now we know the Kobes took off in perfect California weather. Tragic that the flight took them into FOG.

Those other souls had names too you know

@@sergf3624 you didn't care to name them either

KOBE: FLY THAT WAY, B*TCH. I'M KOBE. PILOT: Ok ok. Right away, sir.

I live under flight path for Abq NM i think, i brace often when i hear 2 seaters and news choppers overhead. It makes me anxious......

I suspected that they knew Kobe was to be there?

@@LK-pc4sq yes it was young girls that played on the basketball team with Kobe’s daughter giana that were crying upstairs

Oh wow really,so you knew Koby and his daughter?

@@crystalbowen9137 no i just worked out at the gym never personally met either

Exactly what I said. For once I can hear every word an ATC is saying! Sometimes I can’t understand how they can make out more than every other word at best. It’s all jumbled together. But I realize time is of the essence and they have to be quick.

ok ksren

@@ramonmoreno8014 Ok ksren.!

Very good comment.As humans we naturally look to see where we are.It must be difficult to fly on instruments because by default you are no longer actually looking where you are or going.Easier said than done.I have flown a light aircraft and even in broad daylight you may think you are flying straight and level whereby you may actually be climbing or banking etc.

Trust your instruments , trust your instruments ,trust your instruments ,trust your instruments ,trust your instruments , trust your instruments, trust your instruments,repeat this over and over so many times you can’t get it out of your head even when you are making love to a beautiful woman or man depending on your preference . It should be the first thought when you wake up and the last thought when you go to bed as a young instrument rated pilot . If you are not instrument rated same applies other than you should never press the weather ever!.

It's because that's what you are trained to do when you only fly VFR. The training for look and trust your instruments comes when getting IFR certified.

It is a natural instinct. The brain needs to "visually" see to confirm. It's like a reflex. That's why flying under the hood, or on a sim in IMC, very regularly is important; to help your brain and body learn what to do and what not to do. If you've ever flown in IMC it is something you never forget, especially if you have an instructor demonstrate what spatial disorientation actually feels like so you can acknowledge when it happens again. It's unreal.

@@drakesavory2019 how high, how fast, and whicj way is up is pretty basic instrument reading.

The lesson from this accident isn’t for passengers to never board an aircraft when there is diminished visibility about. In fact, there are no lessons for passengers at all from this tragedy. The accident was 100% pilot error, and the passengers were not even in a position to assess the conditions for flight. Quite reasonably, they trusted the pilot’s judgment. Moreover, the aircraft was certified for flight in even zero visibility, and the pilot was appropriately rated for that kind of flight. The pilot’s errors could not have been foreseen by any passenger. While you may have good intentions, your approach serves only your own peace of mind, not any real cause of safety

It was a bad decision all around to get on that plane under those weather conditions.

100%@@skepticalmaiden

KOBE: FLY ME, B*TCH. I'M KOBE. PILOT: Ok ok. Sorry, sir. I'll start this thing up, right away, sir.

Pilot error. not fog error

When they told the pilot of the route change, he said sure no problem....as we know now, big problem. One you are going to thread a needle between mountains, and its getting foggier. I think the reason he had to press on and take the risk is because, if he told kobe, look im sorry we are coming up on thick fog and I'm not certified to fly by instrument, he knew kobe would have been upset that he had not check the weather, and kobe would have asked for a pilot that is certified with instrument to fly him in the future.

The same experience of that morning up here in LA. Saw the breaking news about his helicopter crashing outside of LA, stepped out on my patio to look up at the low clouds and fog, and knew that was it.

@@CooManTunes of course the people that could tell us what was said are dead, but if we are making assumptions, let's assume kobe was not demanding. But its fair to assume that had the pilot told kobe that they had to go back and all this flying so far was waisted time because he was not certified to fly with instruments...its fair to think that kobe would have been upset and requested a pilot that could fly with instruments.

Yes Kobe lived a great life , that girl hadn't even started life

There were other kids on that plane…

All the kids hurt the most.

@@georgionw6554 exactly

feel sorry for the innocents too.

that was due to protecting the family members of the dead. Know the standard order of procedure. Plus, your sanctimonious attitude is transparent.

Yeah but they're not celebrities so..

No, they didn't. Poor people jealousy at it's finest. Children died on this flight while you're jealous of Kobe's stardom

A million other people around the world died that day too. I don’t see anyone mentioning those people

A whole family at that actually, leaving behind a child 😔

They can just say remember what happened to Kobe Bryant. That might shut them up.

Well if you can't say no, there is nothing stopping you from constantly checking that clock that tells you your hight, or how close are you from hitting the bloody ground, specially when you find yourself in foggy conditions, for so much is known of what can happen when you find yourself in foggy conditions while flying VFR, wouldn't that be one of the most important things learned in flying school,, can't understand how he didn't do that most important of things , like how hard could that be, for when I drive I'm constantly checking my speed, specially when speed limits are changing!

This isn't celebrity privilege in any way whatsoever, this is someone who has earned their money by working incredibly hard and being the best at what they do, paying an insane amount of money for a flight in a helicopter. People take joy rides all the time for no reason at all. If you pay for it and you earned it, it's not a privilege. You just clearly hate celebrities and anyone more successful than you. The helicopter company is a business offering these flights at a cost, they aren't giving them away for charity. The blame for this accident ONLY lies with the pilot for choosing to fly in the given conditions and the company who hired him, NO blame goes to anyone else onboard.

@@User36282 privilege at it's finest...cope more

LA traffic is bad enough to justify helicopter rides if you can afford it.

IFR conditions weren't allowed with this company. VFR only if I remember correctly. Plus no TAWS and he didn't want to get fined etc. Sad circumstance all around 😭

@@13ritneyanne Terrible judgment call cost so many lives, but I hope many others can learn from this. I’ve seen so many preventable accidents over my career. I currently serve as the Aviation Safety Officer for worldwide aircraft manufacturer. We are very methodical about safety considerations during development and testing. This business can kill you in an instance.

@@verticle2612 I bet! The craziest part to me is the chain of events that had to go wrong in order for this tragedy to happen. Just heartbreaking all around! I'll never forget that day.

They fly high profile clients but the best tools for certain conditions aren't available or did they say that after the crash?

just before he began his final ascent, I believed he told the tower he was going to fly IFR, because he had to break through the cloud cover, so he began to climb.

He WAS Instrument rated at the time of the incident. Research before you type. I agree it was his fault, with partial blame on Island Express too. They require 2 pilots for IFR operations, yet neglected to provide Ara with a copilot knowing the weather better than he did. But yes, he was PIC and still made the choice to go. RIP everyone involved, too many souls taken too early.

@@PilotPorter My mistake, he was instrument rated AND an instructor..and still couldn't tell from his altimeter that he was descending while telling ATC he was climbing. No TAWS, no second pilot. Island was completely negligent here.

@Julian Martov when you’ve been looking outside for the whole flight (SVFR) and then get in the clouds unexpectedly or can’t avoid them, it’s a natural reaction to look outside to orient yourself. Your brain does this like a reflex. I’m not saying that’s the appropriate thing to do while flying into IMC (intentionally or not), but it’s understandable at the very least. Yes, look at and trust your instruments. Yes, it’s his fault for taking to the sky that day. This was avoidable for sure, but with all of his training and ratings it just proves it can happen to anyone.

@@mitchellsmith4601 yeah it’s just sad all around. If anything it just shows it can happen to anyone. The past few years have been crazy with accidents, most of them experienced aviators. Also, sadly I had the chance to have talked with this pilot several times before this day. Worked at Atlantic Aviation at KSNA. He was a good dude, a lot of good stuff going on outside of his work life. Just again shows that it can happen to anyone. Flying aircraft can be very unforgiving as I’m sure you know lol

Shit and hi was the most experienced pilot holy fuck I don’t want to know about the others pilots levels 🤯🤯🤯🤯

This one had dual engines and didn’t fail.

I've been in OH58C and UH60L when they practiced autorotation landings with engine(s) at idle. OH58 was fun but UH60 not so much. Keeping minimum 60kts forward speed till under 20' then flaring in Blackhawk is maximum pucker factor. Deadstick landing in a CH53 sounds like a nightmare.

Correction. If you have major mechanical failure with the transmission you are dead. as long as your rotor system is able to turn you can safely autorotate to the ground

There was no mechanical failure. It was pilot disorientation due to lack of visibility. Basically, pilot went blind in mid-air. I served in the Marines, 3rd MAW, MWSS 374, which supported a squadron of CH-53s. I was an electronic technician who repaired equipment in a mobile weather office.

I didn’t mean to say they had engine failure, I was just saying if anything majorly goes wrong you’re going down hard and probably not surviving. I probably lost more friends to pilot error than actual mechanical failure, but other than rumors we were never outright told what went wrong when those instances occurred. I was at HMH-465 on MCAS Miramar. I hope to god they never takeV-22s to civilian market because we all know what kind of death traps those POS are.

The Sikorsky S-76 they were flying in was twin engine with sophisticated instruments.

@@stellarwind1946 True, I stand corrected but it was not equipped with auto-hover capability and it lacked the required certificate to fly in fog.

@@Mach1Airspace well the aircraft itself was certainly capable of flying by instruments, however the company Island Express did not allow their pilots to fly IFR.

@@stellarwind1946 And yet that’s what pilot Zobayan was attempting to do. We’ll never know if Kobe influenced him to keep flying but I’m quite sure an auto-hover feature would have prevented the crash.

@@Mach1Airspace well he was scud running and overestimated his ability to fly by instruments. The NTSB said it was self-induced pressure that contributed to his poor decision making, which I don’t doubt because that’s part of the job. However, I very much doubt that Kobe would’ve pressured him to fly in unsafe conditions with his daughter onboard.

I like how everyone in L.A happened to look up and notice this helicopter and thought some mundane thought but just enough to remember it.

Lol yeah i call BULLSHIT on most of it..."I was out walking my pet turtle" foh

@@hismajesty2036 Well, my pet goldfish had to pee so I took it out for a walk that day... and the blades nearly hit us...

@@tylerdavidson720 u sure u heard everyone in LA say that cuz I sure didn't

@@tylerdavidson720 huh ???? They noticed it was lower than usual and louder

You can't imagine? It seems like that's what you did for about 10 minutes while writing this trash comment. Come on now, you're doing what you said you would hate to have happen. Smh for real. Why even say it? What if his family is in here looking at this video? Here's your goofy comment and all you're doing is virtue signaling. The most tragic part of a death is all the people who feign emotions that don't belong to them for the purposes of showing the world how good of a person they are.. your comment is really astounding..

@@chuckdeuces911 my god you are such a troll get a life thats more interesting than negging everyone on stating their opinion- youve offered nothing here

@@chuckdeuces911 cry abt it

I'm probably the only one that only feel sad for the passengers and not the pilot. Everyone can make mistakes yes but this was his actual choice which caused the accident. He should prioritise safety which he didn't.

Agreed. Nobody wins. Pointing fingers and blaming doesn’t help heal.

Donuts with anal leakage icing are delicious!

Rip to coach John Altobelli,Keri Altobelli,Alyssa Altobelli,Payton Chester,Sarah,Christina Mauser the pilot Ara Zobayan

Well not sure Kobe is resting easy after committing rape but I’m sure the family is in heaven

And while I have the upmost respect to first responders, in this case the fact that even one of them took pics of the deceased at the scene for their personal gratification (which I believe was only exposed after one first responder shared the pics w/a woman in a bar he was allegedly trying to impress who came forward) was shocking. I know they were disciplined for their actions however the fact that people in that position would exploit such a tragedy is really disturbing.

@@isabellind1292 do you know where you can see the pics?

@@peterjones9317 wtf

@@isabellind1292 i wanted to see the pictures.

@@peterjones9317 What pics?

That is why as an adult and father you think for yourself

And that's the saddest thing about when you have a society where people don't care about each other like they would themselves. And as a result I thought that's just the way it is in life. But then a few years back I travelled to Japan... and amazingly, I found people there care about the next person like they care about themselves. So its possible. There has to be a psychological cultural shift here. I sincerely mean that. Regarding this video, I didn't understand 10:26 to 11:39. Was it the ATC guy signed off his shift and told them to wait for his replacement? Did I hear and read that wrong? If im right its bizarre not waiting to get off your shift until after you've helped the copter through.

@@noelleonard2498 I've been known as a cynic by friends. Well, hey, until someone shows me I can trust them, why would I give them the benefit of the doubt? I don't put anything past anyone. People are capable of great good. But they are also capable of great bad. I'll admit that I trusted more in Japan. After that, my guard went back up.

Life isn't fair

Yeah in the future Children will have to read about 2020! Hopefully 2022 won't be like 2020! 🙏

@@RAGEINDIGO 2022 is going to be boring

KOBE: FLY THAT WAY, B*TCH. I'M KOBE. PILOT: Ok ok. Right away, sir.

There was a kid lost both of their parents AND sister.

Thank you..so many just say oh kobe and G...They all deserve respect 🙏

@@lisalee2885 Absolutely. It’s sad for everyone involved.

@@gpt-jcommentbot4759 💔

well, the Pilot F up I am a former USAF helicopter crew-chief. He should have immediately landed no ifs or buts about it.

Amen. Hi

Why. Because a famous basketball player died. No one cares you pretend to care.

@@apotbos 🤣😂🤣😂

He was very nice and a good basketball player no one cares but SO much people maby you should go do a differnt video if you dont care just sad

@@ninjakid1869 The guy couldn't tie his own shoelace, let alone play Basketball.🤣

@@trentcruise3084 this guy cant even dribble down the crown lol and basketball is so easy I get call curly cause I make the 3 for our team lol

Your implication that celebrity had anything to do with this accident is misplaced. There is no evidence that the pilot treated Bryant _et al_ any differently than he would have treated other passengers, nor that the pilot had to combat any external pressure and “put his foot down.”

Well said period

Is that normal in that area ? Or would you say it was unusually foggy ? Like odd ?

If I had to guess they created that fog on purpose to disguise the murder of shooting down his chopper . It was all planned .

That's a very interesting and meaningful comment.

When they left Orange County, the forecast and weather reports were already saying it was probably not going to be doable, but they took off anyway, hoping that things would change en route. They were already behind schedule because of the hold south-east of Burbank. Nobody wants to be the pilot who says, "Mr. Bryant, we're going to land here and get you into a limo for the rest of the trip - sorry that will make you another two hours late." Instead, you think "I'll just go a little bit farther and see if things get better. It's a helicopter. I can set it down anywhere if we really get into trouble." Anyone who has been on a long road trip and found themselves nodding behind the wheel and didn't pull off to sleep for a few hours but pushed on because they were "almost there" is guilty of exactly the same thing.

"It'll never happen to me"

@@B3Band Exactly. We get bad, dangerous habits reinforced whenever we get away with doing something stupid.

How can you set it down if you can’t see the ground below you?

@@jez6078 very carefully.

KOBE: FLY THAT WAY, B*TCH. I'M KOBE. PILOT: Ok ok. Right away, sir.

@@CooManTunes 😂

It seems like they never knew what hit them, so it was quick and the bodies were burned. Unbelievable they let a star athlete of this caliber go up in a helicopter that did not have taws. Also shameful was the LA sheriff's department taking pictures of Kobe's body to send to friends. DISGUSTING!!

I feel most sorry for Vanessa. I mean, losing a child hurts forever. #vanessabryantstaystrong