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@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 2 роки тому
Hey! I realized that I pretty much only talked about the residential side of things and left some of the tactics commercial buildings use until the very end. Well, here’s me now saying that this is by no means something we can’t apply wherever it would work. In fact, many commercial buildings are doing pre-cooling already when it makes sense for them. None of the ideas presented here are new, exactly. But I do think there’s a lot of potential here specifically when it comes to getting use out of renewables. “Make hay while the sun is shining” is a perfect expression, here. In some areas we’re already running into issues where there’s so much solar capacity that we can’t use it all. Rather than wait until we have more electrochemical batteries at our disposal, perhaps we can use all this thermal mass we have. The key thing about insulation is that it slows the transfer of heat. That means it buys you time. The challenge of renewables has always been that the time of production doesn’t match the time of consumption, but with more intelligent control and awareness of a building’s thermal capacity, ability to pre-heat and pre-cool, and the tolerances of its occupants we have a pretty flexible tool for shifting consumption right now.
@mishaproduction
@mishaproduction 2 роки тому
ok
@varno
@varno 2 роки тому
There is only one problem that I can see with this. That is that the rate of heat transfer is proportional to the difference between indoors and outdoors. This means that over cooling at night can make power consumption go up.
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 2 роки тому
@nebuchadnedzzar to be clear I do it at night because I don't have any solar output that I can take advantage of, and there's not much of it on our grid yet. Overcooling at night is what _I'm_ doing, but it's not where I'm suggesting we go with this. (edit to add): The other thing to consider is that if I run my air conditioner when it's really hot outside, the higher condensing temperature of the refrigerant makes it work harder. I'd need to do some experimenting to confirm this, but if the total amount of energy I'm pulling out with my cool-only-at-night strategy were equal to keeping the thermostat at a constant, say, 70 or 72, I think it would actually take more electrical energy. A larger load on an air conditioner makes its energy consumption go up, though not necessarily drastically.
@kchortu
@kchortu 2 роки тому
There are so many places to store thermal energy in commercial buildings. Think about the all the water piping and just mandating upsizing it by an inch. Concrete floors...
@klausnielsen1537
@klausnielsen1537 2 роки тому
This is a great explanation and demonstration of the monetary gains homeowners can achieve by looking at the home with a fresh outset. Well explained and thorough. Well done.
@coreross
@coreross 2 роки тому
People forget that insulation works both ways, gets pretty crazy hot in Scotland these days but still cool at night so I open my windows at night and close them in the morning to hold onto the cool temperature during the day
@timshen6516
@timshen6516 2 роки тому
I've been doing that here in mich for the last 10 years.
@JohnDotBomb
@JohnDotBomb 2 роки тому
Same in California
@fred-9929
@fred-9929 2 роки тому
Living in a passive house for 10 years, that's exactly what I do. Unfortunately, there is more a more noise outside during night, which start to be really annoying. Annyway, insulation is the key. It is cheap, reliable, and almost maintenance-free.
@capttelush539
@capttelush539 2 роки тому
Cool seeing you here, never would’ve thought an r6 creator top comment on this channel
@alminhelex
@alminhelex 2 роки тому
I live in an Adobe house in southwest Colorado. Very dry climate but nights are cool. If I leave the windows open overnight then shut them early, house stays under 75 on a 95 degree day (freedom units)
@Comrade.Question
@Comrade.Question 2 роки тому
Is Technology Connections finally going to show me how to install a giant flywheel in my apartment?
@unvergebeneid
@unvergebeneid 2 роки тому
"No, don't stick your fingers in th...😬🙈"
@ilajoie3
@ilajoie3 2 роки тому
That's probably a job for Colin Furze
@graxjpg
@graxjpg 2 роки тому
Great album, space ritual!
@joshuajones8455
@joshuajones8455 2 роки тому
That was my first thought when I saw energy storage.
@damonedwards1544
@damonedwards1544 2 роки тому
And in the winter, the friction losses wouldn't be losses because they would only warm your house up.
@demoxpert6903
@demoxpert6903 2 роки тому
I’m an HVAC contractor and have been promoting for years that customers take advantage of cheaper electric rates in the evening by over-cooling. It’s so rewarding to hear you reinforce my recommendation.
@cheyannei5983
@cheyannei5983 2 роки тому
It takes less than 3 hours for our house to go from 72f to 85+ in the afternoon. It's not possible to pre-cool enough.
@elmardus
@elmardus 2 роки тому
@@cheyannei5983 Is your house very well insulated? Double/triple glass windows with reflective coating and proper wall/roof/floor isolation should make a ton of difference. The whole concept of pre-cooling does not work at al unless your house is insulated well.
@mellie4174
@mellie4174 2 роки тому
@@cheyannei5983 it really depends where you live, if your house is shaded and what the insulation and windows are like
@TheDiosdebaca
@TheDiosdebaca 2 роки тому
***laughs in Floridian
@dennykeaton9701
@dennykeaton9701 2 роки тому
@@cheyannei5983 More insulation not joking. I've lived in both and a heavily insulated one dramatically slows that temp change down
@marcof.3056
@marcof.3056 2 роки тому
The heat pump in my home is heating up a tank of over 250 gallons of water. It can store about 50kWh of energy for heating the house and hot water for the shower and the tabs. It’s a pretty simple system even though one room in the basement looks a bit like the engine room of a submarine.
@purpleblueunicorn
@purpleblueunicorn Рік тому
Can you tell us more about that? What's the brand and does it work in winter? Can it reverse and make a 250gallon of ice cold water too?
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 9 місяців тому
Most people don't have a basement. Your tank is just a buffer tank, nothing special, just somewhat bigger than usual.
@itsROMPERS...
@itsROMPERS... 8 місяців тому
Yeah, I have a water heater too.
@RikuLeppanen
@RikuLeppanen 8 місяців тому
The same in my house.
@jango9973
@jango9973 8 місяців тому
​@@itsROMPERS...heat pumps have a >1 CoP. Meaning they are more efficient than electric heaters.
@7rich79
@7rich79 2 роки тому
When you said you were using your house to store energy, I was hoping you had converted the entire upstairs into a big swimming pool, with a mini turbine and pipes to the backyard pool.
@PFAlt
@PFAlt 2 роки тому
I was thinking about some heavy weights bound to a pulley with some kind of gear reduction/transmission hooked up to a motor. Motor powers up during night to pull them up, slowly drops them down during the day generating constant input for the rest of the house.
@whogavehimafork
@whogavehimafork 2 роки тому
@@PFAlt I came up with a gravity battery concept that I'm getting ready to toy around with. My house is a rental though so I can't actually use it and it'd be entirely prototypical. If you have solar panels installed you could use it to store potential energy that is discharged in low light conditions. I'm certainly not the first to come up with it but it feels good to come up with something before you heard about it.
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 2 роки тому
You mean using solar power to pump water up during the day and then releasing it at night?
@OrchidAlloy
@OrchidAlloy 2 роки тому
I thought he was somehow heating it up then converting the heat back into electricity
@illuminate4622
@illuminate4622 2 роки тому
@@whogavehimafork the energy density of gravity batteries is very low. They're better for large-scale applications.
@HangLooseMongooseYT
@HangLooseMongooseYT 2 роки тому
My dad’s AC energy savings method was to just never turn it on
@CraftyF0X
@CraftyF0X 2 роки тому
At this point I could save the cost of a new house by not having an AC at all, too bad the summers are unbearably hot and I cannot save money that I never had.
@joshuarosen6242
@joshuarosen6242 2 роки тому
We use a similar approach in the UK. We don't even install it in the first place. I'm in my 50s and I've never been into a private home in the UK that was air-conditioned.
@killbuzzj
@killbuzzj 2 роки тому
@Vap Pri only problem is some places you could straight up die in your home without cooling simply due to humidity it will cause you to sweat to death the uk happens to be one of those places where it isn't getting that hot
@myid9876543
@myid9876543 2 роки тому
@Vap Pri spam.
@Ki113dbysw0rd
@Ki113dbysw0rd 2 роки тому
fantastic logic
@Tuskly
@Tuskly 7 місяців тому
An example of how dramatically your house's insulation could affect how quickly your house keeps in the cold/heat is the work cup I used for work. I started out using a big 1 gallon plastic water bottle (good quality) and would prefill it with ice all the way to the top then top it off with ice cold water.... By lunch time 4 hours later my ice would all be melted and the water luke warm/barely cold. It was never in direct sunlight btw. THEN I upgraded and got a 1.5L metal water bottle (I think eddie bauer) good quality but still cheap. I would prefill with ice and then by lunch even in 100+ weather it would still be filled with ice... I'd drink all the water (2 bottles worth) then refill it multiple times (6 bottles worth after the original filling) and it would STILL have ice by the end of the 10 hour day. Just thought I'd rant about that to let people know how effective precooling could be on a well ventilated house vs one that's not. My house would literally take 3 hours to go from 90 to 76 but at the same time would go from 78 to 85 within an hour of turning off the air.
@conquerncam
@conquerncam 5 місяців тому
Exactly what i was about to comment. My house is so old that this strategy would probably lose me more electricity than anything, due to the poor insulation. I have to rotate which door lock i use in the summer and winter because my door will shift so much that it will misalign with the locks 😂
@Serena-or7sl
@Serena-or7sl 5 місяців тому
Yes, unfortunately in poorly insulated houses the best strategy is to limit as much as possible the use of AC
@rollinmetzger7392
@rollinmetzger7392 Рік тому
This reminds me of when I was in college living in a crap rental house with no ac. I would use box fans on opposite ends of the house to create something of a wind tunnel. I did this all night long and woke up at dawn to close all the windows. It would trap the night cool air inside and worked remarkable well.
@kathrynck
@kathrynck 8 місяців тому
That's basically roman air conditioning. Except they used wind-traps on the roof to catch night breezes, as they had a very limited supply of box fans ;)
@DanielSultana
@DanielSultana 8 місяців тому
I'd argue that 0 is non existent rather than limited, but to each their own
@kathrynck
@kathrynck 8 місяців тому
@@DanielSultana No appreciation for my humor.
@DanielSultana
@DanielSultana 8 місяців тому
@@kathrynck i was doing a your joke but worse kinda joke
@kathrynck
@kathrynck 8 місяців тому
@@DanielSultana ohhhhh, I didn't pick up on it. I guess I get the "woooosh" :P
@kevinshepardson1628
@kevinshepardson1628 2 роки тому
Running AC during the night has a further benefit - the cooler outside temperature means the AC runs more efficiently, so you get the same amount of cooling for less electricity.
@Tubeytime
@Tubeytime 2 роки тому
It also dampens the neighbor's sound pollution! Now that's efficiency.
@tibontibon5772
@tibontibon5772 2 роки тому
all while spending less money ! (though small , savings are savings!)
@gfuentes8449
@gfuentes8449 2 роки тому
Wait you guys can afford aircon up there? 😂
@xmtxx
@xmtxx 2 роки тому
Came here to say the same thing. He is even smarter than he thinks :D
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 2 роки тому
Ah, no. That's not the least bit true.
@corataylor2205
@corataylor2205 2 роки тому
Bringing new meaning to "CLOSE THAT FUCKING DOOR YOU'RE LETTING THE AC OUT" EDIT: (I love how it's my DUMBEST comments that get the most likes, thanks. lmao)
@davidc1961utube
@davidc1961utube 2 роки тому
You sound like my dad...
@corataylor2205
@corataylor2205 2 роки тому
@@davidc1961utube mine too, bud.
@acemarcola
@acemarcola 2 роки тому
Now I sound like my dad🤣
@hammyboigaming904
@hammyboigaming904 2 роки тому
My door doesn’t have to be open for the AC to escape lmao
@nannerpuss9430
@nannerpuss9430 2 роки тому
"what, are you trying to air condition the world?"
@steve32627
@steve32627 Рік тому
We started doing this over a decade ago. As an 'adventurous' individual (and in the HVAC industry...) I was browsing through our utility providers website looking at rate plans. They never advertised it, but had time of use available for residential customers. The account rep told me that the people that would benefit from it usually are the ones that go looking for it to begin with. Our TOU is fixed in the afternoon. The thermostat runs at 72 most of the day but two hours before TOU, it drops to 67 and then to 80 once TOU kicks in. After ten plus years, it's just a way of life. Now, the concept has been marketed for a few years with utility tstats available to adjust automatically.
@alaskanjackal
@alaskanjackal 8 місяців тому
It's really a great way to save money and energy...but the howling on social media by people who don't understand how it works about how it's a huge invasion of freedom and privacy for the utility to adjust their thermostat is hilariously sad.
@RedLamentations
@RedLamentations Рік тому
I have been struggling to find a way to better manage electricity costs as an Iowan, and I need to say you have been a lifesaver to me. Using things from this and your heat pump video have helped me cut my utility bill by 38 percent
@Goddybag4Lee
@Goddybag4Lee Рік тому
That's a lot!
@Simoneister
@Simoneister 2 роки тому
"Heat pumps for the win" That is the biggest takeaway from this channel, by far
@twistedwhiskers8776
@twistedwhiskers8776 2 роки тому
how did u leave a comment a day ago
@AnteMimicaMiMe
@AnteMimicaMiMe 2 роки тому
@@twistedwhiskers8776 different time zone
@twistedwhiskers8776
@twistedwhiskers8776 2 роки тому
@@AnteMimicaMiMe i don't think i did it like this before
@EoinOBrien1
@EoinOBrien1 2 роки тому
@@twistedwhiskers8776 Patreon supporters get access to the video early
@Andytlp
@Andytlp 2 роки тому
Heat pumps ecuperation way too good. You can heat up or cool down any place by just shuffling air around using passive ceramic or otherwise heatsinks and switching air pathways. After the whole setup the running cost is practically nothing for home use. 5000 times cheaper than having air conditioning.
@peterjf7723
@peterjf7723 2 роки тому
A friend was rebuilding a greenhouse that originally had a 2'6" brick wall with the glass structure built on top of the wall. He then bought a second hand aluminium frame greenhouse that fortuitously fitted over the brick wall, leaving a four inch gap between the wall and the glass. This wall made a great heat storage device. It made for a really good passive heater. At its location in the UK I estimate that my friend gained almost two months growing time in this greenhouse without any extra heating. The brick walls heated up in the day and radiated heat at night, it had automatically opening roof windows that used the expansion of wax in sealed tubes to open them. He was able to produce very good crops of tomatoes, chillis and other vegetables.
@snoopdogie187
@snoopdogie187 2 роки тому
Designs like this are becoming more common. You can also find a greenhouse design that is using thermal energy from the ground.
@peterjf7723
@peterjf7723 2 роки тому
@@snoopdogie187Yes, when I put up my own greenhouse I got twenty litre capacity dark colour bottles filled with water - ten of them to act as heat storage, it worked reasonably well, but wasn't as good as the brick wall heat storage. Around twenty years ago I added a conservatory to my then house.. I made a thick concrete base with some 75cm pipes running through it. I then had another linked pipe going up to the conservatory roof and added a fan to pump the hot air through the floor pipes. This cooled the room a bit in the day but provided warmth from the floor in the evening.
@dleland71
@dleland71 2 роки тому
If you have the room, a couple of 55 gallon barrels filled with water and painted flat black sitting in the sunshine will really help.
@EclecticBuddha
@EclecticBuddha 2 роки тому
And if anyone would like to see a wax actuator in action and dissected, here you go. m.ukposts.info/have/v-deo/hZlyeJqYsGaepXU.html
@User888User
@User888User 2 роки тому
@@peterjf7723 Heey this is a good idea, me now thinking how I can implement this. The good news is,its low cost, and, yes I can see this will do something,... Thanks.
@thromboid
@thromboid 2 роки тому
11:07 You might have to watch out for condensation within the walls, not just on the windows. Not sure what your building code dictates there, but with high outdoor dew points, misplaced/missing vapour barrier and cold indoor temps, things can get nasty.
@ians8059
@ians8059 2 роки тому
That was my thought too. Mold sucks.
@zilfondel
@zilfondel 2 роки тому
If the house is only 10 years old he should be ok
@byaafacehead
@byaafacehead 2 роки тому
If it's AC, then the air should be somewhat dry
@thromboid
@thromboid 2 роки тому
@@byaafacehead It's true that AC does dry the indoor air, extracting moisture and lowering the dew point temperature of that air (though often the RH doesn't change significantly, as you're also lowering the temperature). The problem with very low indoor temperatures in hot humid weather is that you can get condensation within the building structure, not only on windows. The moisture there is coming from outside, not inside.
@juanvaldez7279
@juanvaldez7279 Рік тому
Most home have a vapor barrier.
@zackcerza
@zackcerza 8 місяців тому
I started doing this just over a month ago - it runs pretty aggressively, triggered by indoor temp and solar production. The house has been quite a bit cooler, and the first month's usage just came in at $-0.04. I do like the idea of not spending $5k on a huge chemical battery, so thanks for the inspiration!
@mikeward1701
@mikeward1701 2 роки тому
I remember seeing water tanks painted black on the roofs of homes in Turkey. Throughout the day they absorb solar energy and heat the water inside, ready for evening showers and baths.
@ABC-rh7zc
@ABC-rh7zc 2 роки тому
only problem is that cold showers are preferable in summer and hot showers are preferable in winter, when this system doesn't work.
@pauliusthemad3498
@pauliusthemad3498 2 роки тому
More "fancy" version is some near vaccum tubes or old radiators running water, I seen those used to heat water and houses.
@luiysia
@luiysia 2 роки тому
@@ABC-rh7zc i don't take fully cold showers during the summer, just warm, so it would still work for me :)
@davidmccarthy6061
@davidmccarthy6061 2 роки тому
I had that in Austin in the 80's. Gave us an extra 50 gal of hot water.
@davidmccarthy6061
@davidmccarthy6061 2 роки тому
@@ABC-rh7zc It is just extra capacity. You still have cold water in the summer, and in the winter the sun still shines. Run on a recirculation loop the warm-hot tank on the roof keeps the snow off it and still picks up a bit more heat.
@dungeonbrownies
@dungeonbrownies 2 роки тому
The most shocking part of this video was that your home isn't already absolutely covered in heat pumps.
@shadowwolfmandan
@shadowwolfmandan 2 роки тому
Really in the winter natural gas is still cheaper. Having said that I don't have natural gas and am thoroughly enjoying the heat pump I installed.
@au9879
@au9879 2 роки тому
@@shadowwolfmandan Is it really? Where? Here in EU the price of electricity varies, but in my country is around 10c/kWh. Using quality heat pump with SCOP more than 3. you can easly get below 3c/kWh. Natural gas here is around 5,5c/kWh.
@dustinherk8124
@dustinherk8124 2 роки тому
@@au9879 depends where you live in Canada for example. In Alberta natural gas is WAAAAY cheaper. In Quebec....its 3x more expensive on average. And ironically would be cheaper if there was a pipeline from the primary oil deposits to the eastern refineries. But Justin Trudeau would rather import Saudi oil to Quebec. a country that has significantly less investment into environmental impacts and standards of extraction. Along side 1 oil tanker creates about the same amount of pollution in a year as 35million cars.
@laurean5998
@laurean5998 2 роки тому
@@au9879 32ct average in germany. What tf is wrong with this country
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 2 роки тому
@@laurean5998 Probably the reason why Merkel wants Nord Stream 2. Though cheaper Russian gas comes with a lot of geopolitical headache given that Putin really doesn't want to pull out of my home country and return Crimea.
@JosieFiRi
@JosieFiRi 2 роки тому
Our utility provider does occasionally vary our house temps before the reactive state now. At a few peak days this summer we got an email that they would be cooling our house down a lot early on and then jumping up the thermostat high during the peak hours. They requested that we not override it. It worked out well on our end. The utility here doing it is AES Indiana.
@TheRealPOTUSDavidByrd
@TheRealPOTUSDavidByrd 2 роки тому
Fun fact about that kind of pricing: Apartment complexes may decide you can only make so much noise between so-and-so hours. Mine are 10PM and 6AM. Due to the fact that my washer, dryer, washing machine, and shower all make enough noise to be heard in adjacent apartments it's a small problem to run those during those hours. This kind of pricing, while pragmatic from an energy consumption standpoint, is a bit bothersome if you're already cash-strapped and living in a collective housing situation - as most cash-strapped individuals do. Something to consider my good man! Cheers!
@tehberral
@tehberral 2 роки тому
What I learned was "oh yeah, some people live in houses that are less than 60 years old".
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 2 роки тому
Retrofitting older structures to meet modern energy standards is one of the most important things we can do in the immediate term.
@FishFind3000
@FishFind3000 2 роки тому
@@TechnologyConnections that costs money and people don’t want to do that.
@anarchangel7
@anarchangel7 2 роки тому
Haha 160 year old house here, I've done what I can but the costs can be massive.
@MmeHyraelle
@MmeHyraelle 2 роки тому
And so many landlords dont care, they see their building as permanent.
@kitsunekaze93
@kitsunekaze93 2 роки тому
or, "some people live in houses"
@OtakuUnitedStudio
@OtakuUnitedStudio 2 роки тому
You really give credence to that claim I saw online not too long ago: "When someone complements something you own, as a Midwesterner you are obligated to inform them that it was purchased at a notable discount." As a former Iowan, I already believed (and practiced) this. But you have turned that Middle American frugal attitude into an art form I can admire.
@seigeengine
@seigeengine 2 роки тому
Looks to me less like a frugal attitude, and more like false modesty by expressing that you were not rich enough to afford it at full price.
@benghist1451
@benghist1451 2 роки тому
Dude I can't stand people that do that... my brother in law got new boots and they were ugly af but I said "hey nice boots" and he goes "thanks 100 bucks"
@wasabij
@wasabij 2 роки тому
For me it's competition for my father in law, who is a big time thrifter.
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat 2 роки тому
@@seigeengine It's not really false modesty. For people who aren't wealthy, it's just honesty, and it's a way of deflecting the discomfort from the false implication that you splurged on whatever nonsense they are complimenting. "Wow, what a beautiful cushion you have." "Oh, uh, thanks, I saw it on clearance and thought it looked nice." A lot of times it's also a genuine tip. "Oh, you think so? If you need some new cushions, you can get these at Pottery Barn for $14.99!" For people who are wealthy, maybe it's honest and maybe it isn't, but it still deflects from the idea that they are flaunting their wealth. If they were really trying to do that, they would respond with "yes, this pillow cost me $200, but I think it's totally worth it." Since they definitely aren't, they'll give an excuse for having a seemingly expensive pillow. It's almost an apology. I guess it can be annoying, but I much prefer it to the people who advertise how expensive all their junk is. "Yeah, I'm hot shit, I just spent $500 gazillion on these limited rims."
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat 2 роки тому
That said, I find it very annoying when people point out that the mortgage on their mansion costs less than the rent for my 2-bedroom apartment.
@natebell5026
@natebell5026 8 місяців тому
Most reasonable channel on UKposts. Always entertaining and refreshing to watch your videos
@serotonin67
@serotonin67 8 місяців тому
I like your family's nighttime cooling storage method for the many good reasons. You're blessed that Mother Nature made you some shade. If I may add an observation; so I turned our home into a refrigerator (of sorts) with quality time sealing ducts, insulating, radiant barriers, water sprays, and ventilation to remove heat and help keep humidity down to 40%. These efforts cut our unshaded home electric bill from $400 per month to less than $200 on a 4000sf home. I see generally the outdoor unit's compressor runs quieter when the ambient air temps are cooler at night. Appears that there is LESS work on the outside unit to heat exchange ! So, it makes sense that without the sun beating down on the outside unit, it runs to some percentage TBD more efficiently.
@Serena-or7sl
@Serena-or7sl 5 місяців тому
The shade was created by nature, yes, but planted and taken care of by men. May I suggest you to look into adding trees to your lawn? I'd go for a native species if possible. Some species grow pretty fast.
@salicyl3350
@salicyl3350 2 роки тому
8:38 Me: Opens Google Tab to check what 74°F is in Celsius TC: "Thats 23.3°C" Me: Closes Google Tab
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 2 роки тому
same :p
@pXnTilde
@pXnTilde 2 роки тому
F is easy. 74 is 74% of the way to too fking hot from too fking cold
@TlalocTemporal
@TlalocTemporal 2 роки тому
@@pXnTilde -- I disagree, 80°F is too hot, and 0°F is only comfortably cool. It routinely goes up to 100°F and down to -50°F here, the F scale isn't convenient as a comfortable range nor does it relate to what driving conditions will be like.
@williamapodaca8614
@williamapodaca8614 2 роки тому
@@TlalocTemporal do you live on fucking mars?
@Real28
@Real28 2 роки тому
@@williamapodaca8614 I live in the Midwest and we see 90-100f air temp in summer and just a few years ago we saw -20 in winter (was -44 wind chill)
@guillaumegaudin694
@guillaumegaudin694 2 роки тому
Your A/C is even working more efficient as the outside temperature is lower in the night.
@user-yn5jw8ct9q
@user-yn5jw8ct9q 2 роки тому
We're doing the same with our ICF built home. Superior insulation, with the advantage of all the concrete that acts like a massive heatsink, allows us to run AC only at midnight. We don't have to make it that much colder, due to the walls their mass and capacity. Even during the hottest days the temperature doesn't get above 73, and we only need to cool down to 68. Great video!
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 9 місяців тому
Please use SI temperature units instead of archaic nonsense so that the rest of the world understands what you are n about
@allanpick4235
@allanpick4235 9 місяців тому
Simple and elegant! Nice. We're planning a small solar installation and simply plan to dump the energy in our hot water using that as a thermal battery.
@MarkKomarinski
@MarkKomarinski 2 роки тому
I live in MA and I've been on a plan with my power company where they can change the temperature remotely for my AC. They do exactly what you suggest - set the temperature lower in the morning and then raise it in the afternoon to lessen load. I can always override and I still get my incentive if I override less than 25% of the time.
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 2 роки тому
That's great! I'm hoping this idea spreads.
@moremitochondria2737
@moremitochondria2737 2 роки тому
@@DyslexicMitochondria Hey bro I watch ur videos. Love your channeI
@coletm7146
@coletm7146 2 роки тому
@@DyslexicMitochondria well that’s what the override button is for
@MarkKomarinski
@MarkKomarinski 2 роки тому
@@DyslexicMitochondria This has been in place for a number of years without an issue. Again, I can override from the thermostat or remotely.
@rolfs2165
@rolfs2165 2 роки тому
@@DyslexicMitochondria If the power company's system malfunctions, that's what the override is for. If your local system malfunctions - well, you'd have to do a hard reset (i.e. pull the plug) either way.
@sshuggi
@sshuggi 2 роки тому
22:36 As an engineer, an overly simple solution that still meets the objectives IS the elegant solution.
@44R0Ndin
@44R0Ndin 2 роки тому
Exactly, the simplest solution that gets the job done adequately is the best solution. You do have to define what "adequate" is in order to get a good result from this method, however.
@CraftyF0X
@CraftyF0X 2 роки тому
Yea probably these sort of solutions deemed "not elegant" because of their simplicity suggest a certain lack of optimisation. Though, this isn't necessary the case - but being well aware just how complex things can get when optimised to certain objectives - makes any simple solution a suspect.
@44R0Ndin
@44R0Ndin 2 роки тому
@@CraftyF0X The thing is, with good engineering, you need to know when to stop improving the thing and just build it. So you set a target for what's "good enough", and when you hit that target you don't add any more optimizations for that goal. You might work on reducing the cost of producing it, but you won't improve its effectiveness at performing its designed task, because that's wasted effort.
@jko0526
@jko0526 Рік тому
I guess now that you explain it I have been doing the same A/C method as you. Although I will be the first to admit that I only started doing this because I like to sleep when it is cold in the house for health reasons. We have also started planting trees for shade two years ago. Keep up these great videos!
@KayeZZ1
@KayeZZ1 2 роки тому
As a californian it's just really hard to trust the energy company to set the temperature of my house or to give me a reasonable flexible rate, or maintain their equipment, or not kill people and destroy their homes yearly
@Arzon527
@Arzon527 2 роки тому
I can agree, it's hard to trust your own well-being to another entity, like an energy company, or other institutions, right?
@electrictroy2010
@electrictroy2010 2 роки тому
California Edison sets wildfires that burn millions of acres (not just once but several times). So no you cannot trust them to do a good job of regulating temperature in your home .
@electrictroy2010
@electrictroy2010 2 роки тому
Yet strangely enough Californians trust the strangers in Sacramento legislature with every facet of their lives. Puzzling
@celestialtree8602
@celestialtree8602 2 роки тому
@@electrictroy2010 I'll admit I don't know the California situation well, so this explanation may be entirely useless here, though I should note that controlled burns are an important way to prevent and reduce the intensity of wildfires, so it's a good thing for experts to occasionally start fires. Though if they do it in a horrible way (or that's just not what they're doing at all) then yeah fair enough. Just hoping to clear up a possible misconception-
@r3wturb0x51
@r3wturb0x51 2 роки тому
@@celestialtree8602 california is mostly desolate and dry and gets little rainfall due to geography. its not simple mismanagement, they just have bad drought caused by their coastal high desert climate. Washington and oregon get all the rain while california nevada etc all starve . i went there on vacation really changed my perception of the situation they are facing.
@njipods
@njipods 2 роки тому
Also. Your AC is wayyy more efficient when it's cooler for the condenser!
@dryroasted5599
@dryroasted5599 2 роки тому
"Sounds great!" I think, sitting in a 100 year old house with a 50 year old heating system.
@Blubbstock
@Blubbstock 2 роки тому
My 120 year old house has two heating systems, one based entirely on burning wood and the other one is a modern one i put in last year. I kept the old one, because i still like to use it for room heating, the smell of the wood makes me feel comfortable.
@zeropalooba8646
@zeropalooba8646 2 роки тому
@@Blubbstock that’s so cute!
@tanya5322
@tanya5322 2 роки тому
@@Blubbstock we bought a house last year to rent to our daughter and son in law. The house is literally 100 years older than our daughter. We had two of the modern heat pumps installed, that each run two room heating/cooling units. But living in Minnesota, where sub-zero high temperatures are still a thing in the winter, we were advised to keep the old boiler that works with the baseboard radiators. And… The even older floor to ⬇️ ceiling vents that allow warm air from the main floor to rise upstairs to the bedrooms. The previous owners added a layer of foam board insulation between the original sheathing of the house and the new siding.
@Blubbstock
@Blubbstock 2 роки тому
@@tanya5322 I inherited this house from a passed away family member. He was a very old man in his 90's which did not care about technology. The electric installation was made in WW2 and the basement has an air raid shelter door. In the basement there was a boiler which uses wood to heat up water and for space heating there is a giant tiled stove in the dining room. It is large enough to heat most parts. We had to replace all pipes, since the old ones were a bit faulty and also contained lead. We put in a new electric boiler for the water, but kept the old tile stove for space heating. Wood is pretty cheap here. Electricity in germany is super expensive. We also added an AC for the living room, because Bavaria can get pretty hot in the summer. I live there alone with my wife and we have our small own business there with electronics repair workshop. But the house is still a bit large for two people.
@techguy651
@techguy651 2 роки тому
Same here. Someone tried to inject foam insulation in the balloon framed walls in the 70s or 80s (when the house was a mere 50 or 60 years old). Over time that insulation pulled away from the walls and fell into the basement where it continues to crumble away and form large voids. Our heating and cooling strategy is to just set the temperature at a reasonable level for the amount of energy we want to consume, then let it run.
@ChristopherBurtraw
@ChristopherBurtraw Рік тому
I just started doing this a couple months ago after discovering a tiered rate option from my utility. Glad to know I'm not the only one that thought of this!
@stormthrush37
@stormthrush37 8 місяців тому
This is such a great idea and I love it. Personally the idea I've been playing around with that's very similar to ice storage air conditioning but takes advantage of close to effectively free energy is a big thermal mass likely in the form of a good sized well-insulated container of water and having the water cycle through a big exposed loop during the coolest hours of the night to cool the water down and then store that cool (negative) energy, and then cycling the water through a similar loop inside the house to cool and overcool the tank of water and house as needed. This could be done as a closed loop in more humid environments and/or where the water can't be replaced easily and cheaply and as evaporative cooling in dryer climates when the water can be easily replaced. This system could also probably be used in reverse to help keep a house warm in winter especially at night by heating the water up during the hottest parts of the day and having it cycle through the house as needed especially at night, heating and overheating the water tank and house a bit during the hottest part of the day. Like the recent return idea of putting sails on massive cargo ships this method wouldn't even have to provide all the heating and cooling for a house; simply offsetting the energy usage would be a big help especially since the materials costs of such a system would be so low and thus the length of time for the system to pay for itself would be so short. All you're really talking about materials wise is insulation, the water tank, the lengths of narrow copper or other piping, and some sort of pump to move to water. You could also power the pump with solar or another renewable if you wanted to reduce conventional energy usage to nothing. You could probably simplify this idea further by using a big water heater; it's already insulated and has the basic piping and thermometers and thermostats installed.
@smackerlacker8708
@smackerlacker8708 2 роки тому
This guy actually has an energy consumption strategy. Most people can't figure out how to navigate a 4-way stop.
@punker4Real
@punker4Real 2 роки тому
even worse when the traffic light is out.
@Najolve
@Najolve 2 роки тому
Or a 3-way switch
@richardmillhousenixon
@richardmillhousenixon 2 роки тому
Reason number 247 why drivers education classes should be mandatory to get your license
@sanctionh2993
@sanctionh2993 2 роки тому
Most store shoppers don't know roughly how much their purchases are, and often don't have enough or want to the total.
@OriginalPiMan
@OriginalPiMan 2 роки тому
To be fair, 4-way stops are pretty bad. Replace with roundabouts for safety and improved traffic flow.
@no.no.4680
@no.no.4680 2 роки тому
"It's just like charging and discharging a battery, except the battery is made of water and gravity." The rhyme of our generation, the electrical generation.
@luiysia
@luiysia 2 роки тому
🔥🔥🔥
@GodlikeIridium
@GodlikeIridium 2 роки тому
Yeah that was a great rhyme :D
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator 2 роки тому
Water, fire, earf 'n dirt, fuckin magnets, how do they work?
@marks6663
@marks6663 2 роки тому
battery and gravity do not rhyme.
@passagetonow1229
@passagetonow1229 Рік тому
Great video. I learned that most water heaters have two thermostats with heating elements. One set is near the bottom where cold water enters and the other is near the top where hot water exits. They are usually set to the same temperature but I thought this could be manipulated to store solar hot water. The water heater would have the standard switch between grid power at night and solar power during daylight. The top thermostat would be set to 120 degrees and the bottom would be set to 140 This means when the bottom heating element is on, the upper element would not come on and the water in the tank would be superheated. The trick would be to put a timer on the bottom switch so it is only active during daylight hours This means that the water would be superheated to 140 degrees when the sun is up and only 120 degrees when using grid power. If the power company offers off-peak rates, the lower element could come on during off-peak hours to top off the water when power is relatively cheap There are problems such as intermittent low solar power availability during daylight hours and changes in sunrise and sunset times throughout the year. A simple system might have to brush over these issues and not be perfect but I could see a more complex programmed timer controlling the lower element that takes into account solar power availability
@jenroses
@jenroses Рік тому
I'm in the PNW and we have a couple strategies in our very old house. 1. Over the biggest windows, there's an arbor with grape vines-- this means no leaves in the winter, and plenty of shade in the summer. 2. The temp differential here during the dry summer months is such that most of the summer, we can just open everything up at night, let the breeze cool the house, and close it up in the morning, keeping the heat out for the rest of the day. 3. During the winter, we never have the thermostat over 65, but use a lot of blankets and sweaters and hoodies. We don't have peak pricing for energy here, because it's mostly hydropower/wind/solar, so at night we turn it down to 60. 4. Rather than cooling the whole house, we air condition the south-west facing bedroom. I put it on eco when I leave the room, and it gets up to about 78, and then put it on auto cool at night as soon as I'm up there, The room stays tolerable, I can deal with the rest of the house being warm, and it doesn't usually get that warm. During massive heat waves, this means we have a comfortable place to take heat breaks, but are air conditioning a huge old house.
@richardschurter2115
@richardschurter2115 2 роки тому
Another benefit of running AC at night: The AC runs much more efficiently as the outside temp is lower than if you ran it during the day.
@KalebPeters99
@KalebPeters99 2 роки тому
Exactly! I was wondering if he'd mention this but yeah the AC (along with the houses insulation in general) isn't fighting against the hot outside air at night either!
@jfolz
@jfolz 2 роки тому
In a lot of places it would be perfectly adequate to just force out the hot air that's trapped inside.
@mralistair737
@mralistair737 2 роки тому
@@jfolz *waves from the uk* basically nobody has AC here because we only need it 3 days a year (which is this week oddly enough)
@stephenlabarre7890
@stephenlabarre7890 2 роки тому
Yes! And something else that cracks me up: running AC ducts through an attic that is considerably hotter than the living area.
@rjwaters3
@rjwaters3 2 роки тому
@@jfolz indeed! not so much in illinois where I (and iirc him) live, humidity is just too high.
@QueenStewds
@QueenStewds 2 роки тому
bruh that dude installing a solar panel was wearing an exo skeleton. Are we just ignoring that?
@phizc
@phizc 2 роки тому
Yup. HAL created by Cyberdyne. Not joking. 2001: A Space Odyssey meets Terminator. HAL stands for Hybrid Assistive Limb.
@GumbyAndrit
@GumbyAndrit 2 роки тому
I opened comments just to see if anyone else saw that
@Killercreek
@Killercreek 2 роки тому
Are we ignoring right before that a person is setting their thermostat into the 40s?
@shabmaster7128
@shabmaster7128 2 роки тому
@@GumbyAndrit same
@CraftyF0X
@CraftyF0X 2 роки тому
Yea I was lol whaaaat ? I quickly rewinded to take a look and I had to conclude that it is indeed was an exoskeleton probably with the function to ease to physical load on the worker. Now, I don't know wheter it was just a futuristic representation of someone's vision on the future of PV workers, or a real commercial application.
@tartansauce4879
@tartansauce4879 Рік тому
I really love these videos. They're very informative, and you have a very personable way of presentation.
@chetstevens7459
@chetstevens7459 2 роки тому
Very informative. I had never thought about this before. I live in a very hot part of the US and it's just been the norm for a very high electricity bill during the summer. I've been doing it wrong all along; I raise the thermostat during the day when no one is home thinking that it's not needed but then that means I turn it on immediately when getting home... during the peak hours!
@AdoraTsang
@AdoraTsang 2 роки тому
"Overcool your home at night. Stay cool during the day." - Lao Tzu
@shaun_rambaran
@shaun_rambaran 2 роки тому
That was my favourite one.
@Sharpman76
@Sharpman76 2 роки тому
Art of War
@PhilippeCarphin
@PhilippeCarphin 2 роки тому
People were so wise back then.
@copernicofelinis
@copernicofelinis 2 роки тому
"The art of warm"
@mickware5289
@mickware5289 2 роки тому
When I lived in a middle apartment, I never used heating or cooling. Weak neighbors are easily used.
@anotherpolo1143
@anotherpolo1143 2 роки тому
LMAO
@worldcomicsreview354
@worldcomicsreview354 2 роки тому
Last year I had direct sunlight through a huge window. That was a cheap winter!
@ryanlumley8579
@ryanlumley8579 2 роки тому
@@worldcomicsreview354 And an expensive summer.
@EdwardMillen
@EdwardMillen 2 роки тому
All of the above here. Very handy in winter, because it means the air-source-heat-pump-based heating/hot water system that it has can just about manage to keep things warm enough without resorting to "winter mode" (which basically means it activates a 7kW electric immersion heater), and in mild weather it stays a reasonable temperature with no heating at all, but right now we seem to have hit "summer" and there's no active cooling :/
@AtheistDD
@AtheistDD 2 роки тому
My heated Floor has a Name... on his door right under me.
@Goddybag4Lee
@Goddybag4Lee Рік тому
In my town in Sweden the hospital is cooled down in the summer with snow from the winter since it's stored in a way that let it be snow even if it's hot outside. So a huge pile of snow is a good thing.
@hassegreiner9675
@hassegreiner9675 2 роки тому
Travelling in US I've often been taken by surprise by the insanely heavy use of cooling provided. I especially remember a conference in Maryland, during a lovely summer where I had to buy extra shirts to stand the AC during sessions. In all breaks I stormed outside to recover some of the lost body heat.
@juanvaldez7279
@juanvaldez7279 Рік тому
In the conference they do that to keep you wake.
@samueljardine3402
@samueljardine3402 Рік тому
@@juanvaldez7279 They say that but all the data indicates that cold air puts you to sleep.
@PowerScissor
@PowerScissor 2 роки тому
I store my energy in a nice layer of body fat for emergencies.
@estudiordl
@estudiordl 2 роки тому
Same. My cat will appreciated that some day... 😅
@ichbinein123
@ichbinein123 2 роки тому
The American way 🗽
@omegarugal9283
@omegarugal9283 2 роки тому
im a walking battery then
@ArturdeSousaRocha
@ArturdeSousaRocha 2 роки тому
"That's no beer gut, that's a battery!"
@jeremywj
@jeremywj 2 роки тому
I'm on the skinny side and one drawbrack is indeed often being cold.
@Qbe_Root
@Qbe_Root 2 роки тому
**everyone starts doing this** **night time is the new peak demand time**
@ianstobie
@ianstobie 2 роки тому
It will also be when people charge their electric cars 🚗 🚙 🚗 so quite likely.
@ashen_dawn
@ashen_dawn 2 роки тому
At the point that it equalizes between day and night people would stop having an incentive to switch - worst that would happen we just have a more even load throughout the day, which is better for nuclear and hydroelectric generation.
@dustinvanantwerp4917
@dustinvanantwerp4917 2 роки тому
Need to remember Business power usage peaks during the day. Even if everyone did this at their homes most of those people go to work, it would never totally flip.
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 2 роки тому
Gosh dangit, I said not to!
@ryanrinn4041
@ryanrinn4041 2 роки тому
Maybe, but it shouldn't be as bad because it will be cooler outside.
@Dwuudz
@Dwuudz Рік тому
Just a follow up, a year later with time of day rates, and my bill has gone down by FIFTY percent, with around the same amount of usage overall. By the end of this year, watching this video will have seriously saved me around one thousand of dollars. So again, thank you.
@alanaktion
@alanaktion 2 роки тому
Wow that substation clip is awesome because I grew up right around there and rode my bike past it up that canyon several times a week for many years.
@daniellambert6207
@daniellambert6207 2 роки тому
18:43 this [alternative to batteries] has "a lot of.... potential"
@captainvector
@captainvector 2 роки тому
I got a real charge out of that
@Operational117
@Operational117 2 роки тому
In this current situation, this will be a shocker!
@timhartherz5652
@timhartherz5652 2 роки тому
You forgot to put on you Sunglasses before the punchline. :-)
@thefack149
@thefack149 2 роки тому
Here, take my angry upvote
@tangelogee
@tangelogee 2 роки тому
I sense some resistance to this...
@Chris-uu2td
@Chris-uu2td 2 роки тому
Im from Germany Our "air conditioning" is opening windows in the morning to ventilate the rooms with cool morning air, keeping the shutters on the sunny side down during the day and hoping for the temperature to drop below 30°C (86°F) by the late evening. But at least, rolling blackouts are not a thing here :D
@joshua-tv
@joshua-tv 2 роки тому
my shutters dont work anymore :( hilfe
@inyobill
@inyobill 2 роки тому
Given the very hot summers we've had since we moved here (this year is a bit crazy, of course) less effective than previously. However, the heavy masonry houses here in Germany (our house has 40 cm exterior, 30 cm interior walls) make this a very viable option. If you can capture solar gain during the winter, it can also be veryeffective.
@Gabu_
@Gabu_ 2 роки тому
@@inyobill I call that the "European special". Why buy an AC if you could get a bunch of bricks, instead?
@inyobill
@inyobill 2 роки тому
@@Gabu_ When its 35-40 during the day and 25-30 at night for a couple of weeks (this is the first summer in the Swisttal in about seven years we haven't seen that), it's hard to shed the heat from the masonry. In the Dachboden, with over 40 cm of new insulation, and proper sealing, it would be unliveable.
@shadowwolfmandan
@shadowwolfmandan 2 роки тому
Tough when you get up at 7 and it's already 27°C.
@thedocx
@thedocx 10 місяців тому
My utility (somewhere in West Texas) just implemented that last week! They had an Energy Saver Event, as they call them, this past Friday and they set the thermostat to cool my house before the event to a temperature based on my schedule for later that day
@geodkyt
@geodkyt Рік тому
I've been doing a similar thing for about a decade,.in a house with an old style manual thermostat. Turn the AC to about 72 when I get home from work, bump it down before bed, and then shut the AC to about 80 after I get up in the morning. Normally, the house is still well below 80 when I would get home, The difference in summer power bills pre-COVID and during two years of 100% telework are quite noticeable. The same technique works in winter. I'd consider a smart thermostat, but this is a rental. Another trick i use is this house had an attic fan installed (built in 1970) before the owner installed HVAC. So, as soon as the outside ambient air drops below 80, I pop a or window open, run the attic fan for a minute or two, and flush the 100+ degree air that built up all day out of the attic.
@tonyperotti9212
@tonyperotti9212 2 роки тому
Just got this from my electric company in MD (BG&E): "Get paid for doing your part. Through Connected Rewards, your smart thermostat temperature will automatically be adjusted by a few degrees during select summer days when the demand for electricity is highest. To keep you cool and comfortable, your home may be pre-cooled slightly ahead of these adjustment events." Sounds like a partial implementation of your plan. I like your idea of using the volume of the house to "store" cooling when it is cheap and I've been trying it informally. At some point I plan to reprogram my thermostat to give it a more rigorous try.
@Pulzyfr
@Pulzyfr 2 роки тому
Woah, BGE being smart for once.
@orppranator5230
@orppranator5230 2 роки тому
Uh huh. Never give the electricity company control over your thermostat. All they will do is make you sweat to cut costs.
@MarcelTransier
@MarcelTransier 2 роки тому
@@orppranator5230 But they aren't earning anything from selling me electricity when they switch of my AC.
@AdamClark2371
@AdamClark2371 2 роки тому
Same here in SoCal with Edison. They will pre-cool the house before the 'energy rush hour' event.
@LtdJorge
@LtdJorge 2 роки тому
@@MarcelTransier instead, they're losing money by driving the generators out of peak efficiency.
@Migreeni_mies
@Migreeni_mies 2 роки тому
Red flag 11:13 There is a mold risk in this you know. If you are getting condensation outside of your windows, this means that the temperature of the glass is below dew point of outside air. This also can happen on your vapor barrier (if you have any) or basically on any part of wall structure that is cold enough. This condensed moisture is not healthy for the house as it might soak your insulation and cause mold on your structures. So as an HVAC engineer I would not recommend setting internal temperature lower than the dew point temperature outside.
@pamike4873
@pamike4873 2 роки тому
In central PA, the dew point is usually in the upper 70s to mid 80s. I keep my thermostat at 74 and have no problem with mold. On the flip side, if you're "super-cooling" at night to 66, I can see it being a problem.
@lobsterbark
@lobsterbark 2 роки тому
In the entire state of Missouri, the dew point is often above room temperature. Its more than a little ridiculous, the ac on peoples cars continuously drip a visible stream of water, its that bad.
@Migreeni_mies
@Migreeni_mies 2 роки тому
@@lobsterbark this water you are referring is drain warer from the evaporator. This is also how you dry the air. It is a different story to have condensation on walls (or outside your car windows) compared to the cooling coil which is cold by design and pretty much always under dew point.
@Migreeni_mies
@Migreeni_mies 2 роки тому
@@pamike4873 I also run my AC at 75F during summer and heating on 71F during winter. I have to add that I think the idea itself is good, so run the AC outside peak hours as it will take time for the temperature to rise again due to thermal mass. However I use a different approach; I have solar panels that have output higher than my cooling demand and sell excess electricity to the grid, so I only help even the load during peak hours.
@Jenny-tm3cm
@Jenny-tm3cm 2 роки тому
@@pamike4873 also the humidity is usually over 70% in PA, closer to 90% if it rained a lot, which may or may not be a factor
@TheDireLynx
@TheDireLynx 2 роки тому
man this really reminds me of back when we lived in a home without an air conditioner. on the particularly hot and sunny days, you want blinds up all day. minimize the amount of time windows and doors are open. make it a closed system. at night, open it all up. let that cool air in. then close it back up once it's at a good temperature and go to bed.
@nicholaslittle2312
@nicholaslittle2312 2 роки тому
Thanks for the sensible ideas and big picture relationships here. I'm so glad commercial ice cooling is a thing and programmed interconnected air con. My father told me that there was a man called the ice man who would come to your place and sell you a large block of ice. Then the ice be put into the top shelf of the cooling cupboard to refrigerate your food.
@mikeroberson1461
@mikeroberson1461 2 роки тому
Side note: As an added bonus, your AC unit is more efficient at cooling when the exterior temperature is lower. Cooling your house during peak exterior temperature (like practically everyone does) is additionally inefficient that way as well. Cooler exterior air = less electricity for the same amount of cool.
@OGPatriot03
@OGPatriot03 2 роки тому
But that doesn't account for the obvious heat seeping back into the house before peak temperatures occur, to combat this the A/C must be ran excessively to make the house super cold. Obviously in total doing this would consume MORE energy but it consumes the cheaper energy due to how our grid is configured.
@zackwhite5959
@zackwhite5959 2 роки тому
As an HVAC tech, I learned a lot from this and now I can't wait to learn more about the passive house! Love these vids.
@donaloflynn
@donaloflynn 2 роки тому
Are you guys not taught this stuff as part of your training? If not then the training system is letting you down.
@teaser6089
@teaser6089 2 роки тому
@@donaloflynn They are trained to install and maintain HVAC equipment, not to teach people how to use it.
@davidcain3752
@davidcain3752 2 роки тому
@@donaloflynn Tell me you use reddit without saying it
@zackwhite5959
@zackwhite5959 2 роки тому
@@donaloflynn Unfortunately my education was quite limited. I went to a cheaper school and got almost zero hands on training, and the teacher glossed over the more scientific parts of the trade. I'm learning a lot more in the field now though. It's been a year since I graduated and I learn most stuff on UKposts or in the field.
@dosmastrify
@dosmastrify 2 роки тому
Passive?
@somedudeandacomp
@somedudeandacomp 2 роки тому
I'm so glad someone else other than me thinks the way you do. I have never overcooked as much as you but I do have 13.1 eec window ac units in my upstairs simply because I hate cooling my entire home at night. Saves a lot on my electric bills. I have an ecobee but hate how I can't change the idle parameter for when I leave home.
@davewatson3833
@davewatson3833 8 місяців тому
These videos are brilliant!
@ShankMods
@ShankMods 2 роки тому
I would totally try this if I didn't live in a 70 year old house in Texas
@Thatonedude917
@Thatonedude917 2 роки тому
Same
@RalstigRacing
@RalstigRacing 2 роки тому
Insulation. Thermal barrier. (Attic foil is great!)
@75OldsNinetyEight
@75OldsNinetyEight 2 роки тому
If your windows are leaky, adding storm windows will help a lot (The house I grew up in was about 100 years old but my parents added storm windows over the originals). Also temporary clear plastic can cut drafts losing cooling to the outside or cold air coming in winter
@RalstigRacing
@RalstigRacing 2 роки тому
@@75OldsNinetyEight You can even do blackout curtains.
@teaser6089
@teaser6089 2 роки тому
@@EliasTheHunter If he likes living there, why move?
@2ManyGoats
@2ManyGoats 2 роки тому
Air flow management is basically all we had for a few years. Draw air on the shaded side of the house and exhaust on the sunny side. About halfway through the day we would switch it. Combined with proper window shades, it was very effective.
@hmosh
@hmosh 2 роки тому
Yet most of the new houses in Texas don't even do this basic thing
@rantingrodent416
@rantingrodent416 2 роки тому
@Cian O'Flynn This is only feasible in places where temperatures actually cross comfortable territory for significant lengths of time during the day or night for most of the year, though.
@NicholasLittlejohn
@NicholasLittlejohn 2 роки тому
@@hmosh Texas has a horribly antiquated energy code to protect gas polluter profits.
@donovan2913
@donovan2913 2 роки тому
So, no humidity where you live or do you just adapt?
@2ManyGoats
@2ManyGoats 2 роки тому
@@donovan2913 we get terrible humidity. The air flow just keeps it all moving
@sanderd17
@sanderd17 2 роки тому
That was the concept of an electric heating accumulator too. More or less. An accumulator has some bricks in an insulated box. Through the bricks, there's an electrical heating element, capable of heating the bricks to 700ºC. Then there are vents (and a fan) you can open to dump that heat into your house. As the accumulator is insulated, it works a tad better on badly insulated houses than trying to store the energy directly in your house. But these things have many disadvantages: a suboptimal efficiency (some heat is lost when you don't need it), and the high temperature means heat pumps don't work. They're also bulky to install in your house, and when the fan comes on, they make a lot of noise. So they've generally fallen out of favor.
@jonm4206
@jonm4206 8 місяців тому
Great video, I wish I could use it! This sort of thing in my area would require a huge investment in insulation to make it at all possible. Right now its 2pm in August in California, and my apartment was built in the 70s. My energy providers rate plan has higher rates from 4pm to 9pm. They charge 44c per hour non peak, and 52c per hour peak. I cooled my apartment to 73 degrees at 12pm, and it was 76 degrees by 1pm. Old windows, upstairs, and no trees blocking the roof. I would love to be able to use this technique, but at 3 degrees an hour it would be to 80 degrees inside by 1pm. The best I can do right now is cool it to 70 degrees or so by 4pm, and cut out an hour and a half or so of peak use until 6pm. (I also just cool the single bedroom in my apartment, I leave the door shut to my living area) College town so no landlords are investing in anything nice like modern insulation anytime soon.
@AliHSyed
@AliHSyed 2 роки тому
I'm not overweight, I'm an innovative energy storage solution.
@sehr.geheim
@sehr.geheim 2 роки тому
actually, kinda yeah, evolution has worked our bodies to store excess energy when there is an abundance of food and use that fat when there isn't any
@Skarry
@Skarry 2 роки тому
For your cats.
@vynniev9611
@vynniev9611 2 роки тому
@@sehr.geheim literally yes. Also little creatures (or bastards, if you like to call them that) love your warmth :)
@TLM860
@TLM860 2 роки тому
We all depend on you! Where would we all be without your farts that provide crucial natural gas during peak hours? HERO!
@Operational117
@Operational117 2 роки тому
@@vynniev9611 I’d be thrilled by that. If it was a kitten, I’d give it thermal warmth, and it would give me emotional warmth! ☺️
@nilz23
@nilz23 2 роки тому
Running AC at night would also be more efficient in general too wouldn't it? With lower temps outside it would be easier for the condenser to reject heat.
@joshmiller7870
@joshmiller7870 2 роки тому
Yes. Only no answers would be if it were cold cold. In ambient temperatures drop to 40⁰ and lower most residential aircons run into problems (unless its a heat pump in heating mode ofcourse👍) and damage your compressor. Its called "slugging a compressor " funny name. Basically what happens is this: Compressor is made to pump gas/vapor, so, if temp drops low enough to cause the heat in the low pressure gas to leave fast it will condense into a liquid. This is bad news since liquid doesn't compress. When liquid enters the compression area (could be a piston, scroll, or rotary type), it damages the parts that do the compressing and eventually crumble those parts into chips and chunks. Fun fact. To get around this happening in Commercial applications they toggle the condenser fan via pressure switch in refrigerant line. Also the put this giant hose clamp around the bottom of the compressor that is a heating element that warms the compressor and oil to a good operating temperature in low ambient conditions.
@collan580
@collan580 2 роки тому
@@joshmiller7870 Probably you dont need AC if the outside temperature is around 5C.
@joshmiller7870
@joshmiller7870 2 роки тому
@@collan580 personaly myself, no need. However in commercial buildings this common practice.
@henryzhang7873
@henryzhang7873 2 роки тому
​@@collan580 Because of uneven heat distribution. Some rooms will still need heat rejection. I have servers at home, and even in the winter that room will need to be actively cooled. It isn't efficient to dump heat into the air then have the A/C remove it later.
@collan580
@collan580 2 роки тому
@@henryzhang7873 Most people dont have servers though and if you do have one, maybe a smart system can be implemented to use that cold outside air to keep those servers cold.
@charlycharly8151
@charlycharly8151 Рік тому
Back in the 90’s (in Europe) my parents had a device which was basically an insulated box with around 300 kg of fire bricks inside. Those bricks were heated by a resistor over the night, when power was cheap. During the day, an air flow was created through this volume with a ventilator and vents in the box. We could heat our 90’s insulating standards house with this.
@ritobt
@ritobt 2 роки тому
great practical and useful application of low pass filters and feedback loops :) this is a really nice and practical lecture!!
@jesseharrell80
@jesseharrell80 2 роки тому
As a grid operator, I enjoyed your video. You do great research.
@lederermc
@lederermc Рік тому
I used to work at BP in Houston. They build their HQ about 30 yrs ago with a pool of water under the parking garage so they could load balance the AC during the day.
@mrlucasftw42
@mrlucasftw42 Рік тому
This is a really cool idea! I also like to sleep cold. We keep our thermostat at 78 nearly all the time in the summer (upstairs does gets annoyingly warm). The house is old enough that I'm not sure your strategy would work as well - although we did get decent windows not all that long ago.
@greasemonkeymechanic1
@greasemonkeymechanic1 2 роки тому
Having lived offgrid for most of my life this is just the norm for me. Once you have to generate and store the power you need you learn really quickly how much power everyday appliances use. I love how you explained this topic and look forward to more videos from you in the future, keep up the good work.
@tofuprius3384
@tofuprius3384 2 роки тому
I literally dream about having a well-insulated home one day. Our current apartment is basically like living outdoors in the winter and way hotter than outdoors in the summer. 😑
@cillermaniak
@cillermaniak 2 роки тому
Definitely add window blinds on the outside if you can, it helps a lot to keep out sunlight in the summer, and helps keep in the heat during the winter, if your windows are not well insulated.
@andredekatana4661
@andredekatana4661 2 роки тому
Me too... Concrete block in-ground is a pain in the ass to regulate...
@timothylegg
@timothylegg 2 роки тому
That's because sustainable apartment construction is 100% unregulated in the USA
@tofuprius3384
@tofuprius3384 2 роки тому
@@timothylegg In this case, it’s because it’s in a house built more than 100 years ago 🤪
@Menaceblue3
@Menaceblue3 2 роки тому
@@timothylegg Why be energy efficient when the renters can waste money on electricity?
@joeblot147
@joeblot147 Рік тому
That's the joy of rammed earth houses. The fundamental idea is that you make your house such an enormous thermal battery that it cycles on a timescale of about a year. The most comfortable house I've ever worked on had an Ancient-Roman style open sky courtyard and garden, with passive rainwater collection due to the sloping of the roof, and the only offshoots that had any thermal management were the bedrooms with thermal pumps that tied into the garden rainwater resevoir. The kitchen just had a masive hood vent to dump the hot air, and would draw cool air from the rest of the house. I think the most they ever paid for electricity over a month was $60.
@alpacagurl92
@alpacagurl92 Рік тому
Timescale of a year? that's literally one of the silliest things I've ever heard. Rule of thumb for earth insulation is that heat transmission is delayed by about 8-9 hours per foot thickness of earthen walls. How do you expect to get a year cycle? Even the great lakes in Michigan don't hold thermal energy that long. I think you're misremembering that earthen houses cycle on the timescale of day, which still greatly reduces cooling and heating costs without your house being freezing in the morning.
@NickR..
@NickR.. Рік тому
@@alpacagurl92 Maybe the house is a quarter mile underground. You don't know.
@austinsparks4561
@austinsparks4561 9 місяців тому
@@NickR.. lmao, dont r/whoosh me, but at those depths, the temperature would stay a pretty constant 80-100 degrees fahrenheit
@irishvoyageur
@irishvoyageur 2 роки тому
I’ve been doing this with a whole house fan installed in our attic for the past 35 years. This only works during period when the outside humidity levels are not excessive. I typically drop the air temps in the house to about 62-65 degrees at night. This will really cut or eliminate cooling demand during hot weather. I learned this technique from my parents who lived in a 100-year old home.
@laulaja-7186
@laulaja-7186 8 місяців тому
Exactly. Common architectural feature for many years, to ventilate the house instead of paying for air conditioning.
@Smedleydog1
@Smedleydog1 2 роки тому
Our house was built in 1951. When we bought it 25 years ago it still had the original single pane wood windows that swelled/shrank, leaked air, sweat and frosted over in the winter. About 5 or 6 years after we bought it, we had all new double pane low E windows put in. Also about 6 or 7 years ago the air conditioner started having issues, so we had a new high efficiency furnace and AC unit installed. We have also put in all new entry doors (3) and insulated garage doors. We've spent well over $25,000 to save energy/money. Also, we had a new roof put on last year because our old one was worn out and needing replaced, but we spent extra money to put on a roof that is supposed to help with energy savings. It takes a long time to make that kind of money back in energy savings. I'm pretty sure that we may never break even. We could have spent more money, for even more "savings", but I don't know how much more "money" we can afford to save. A lot (I would bet that most) people living in older houses can't afford the expense of retrofitting their houses to bring them up to modern day energy standards.
@Nukepositive
@Nukepositive 2 роки тому
61% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, so yes, a majority of Americans don't have any capital for improvements. I kept thinking about my mom's single-wide trailer and that even if I had the money for improvements, it seems really silly to pull the whole thing apart to add insulation. Would probably be better to add a vertical wind turbine on top and call it a day. And my 7th-floor apartment with a wobbly sliding door to the balcony isn't doing me any favors. At least heat pumps are standard on the building.
@JenniferFuchek
@JenniferFuchek 2 роки тому
We just got a home built in 1973/1974. Still has original single pane windows with aluminum frame and individual panes of glass (6 over 6, has glass squares/rectangles with aluminum strips between them). Winter time they sweat and drip all over the windowsills. Summer time they radiate heat right through. Original insulation. We are already fixing to get a new roof, and I'll be putting the plastic shrink film over all windows..... They're on the "list" but they're gonna be mighty expensive!
@mellie4174
@mellie4174 2 роки тому
@@Nukepositive you don't pull it apart, it is just blown in.
@jedics1
@jedics1 2 роки тому
I don't know how much more "money" we can afford to save... haha
@lucash1980
@lucash1980 Рік тому
Spending $25K to save money on energy costs and then realizing that you won't save a penny is really heartbreaking... and poor planning. The person who buys your home will either thank you for investing in their future or shrug as they demolish the entire building. I held on to my old faithful oil boiler (home heating) for years, and I love it...but the price of home heating oil keeps rising and the new bio diesels have not been cheaper or accessible. The extra yearly expense for oil means that I will see a return on my investment in a few years.
@tomtxtx9617
@tomtxtx9617 2 роки тому
One item to also consider: By running the AC during cooler times outside, it is more efficient. Not only is the electricity cheaper, you need less of it.
@ewmetzler
@ewmetzler 2 роки тому
What an ingenious idea. We have solar panels in our retirement home and are learning to selectively use electricity when the sun is shining. I’m learning to unplug devices that draw current when not in use.
@dylanl3942
@dylanl3942 Рік тому
I've thought of this issue at length but i didn't think to store thermal energy! Very interesting idea
@daze8410
@daze8410 2 роки тому
You can create a "solar heater" by filling large barrels full of water and painting them black. Then you put those barrels in an insulated greenhouse
@NicholasLittlejohn
@NicholasLittlejohn 2 роки тому
Thermal mass 👏
@VADemon
@VADemon 2 роки тому
Then you live in the insulated greenhouse to profit off the solar heat.
@noahluppe
@noahluppe 2 роки тому
Or get those solar panels/collectors and tie them into your warm water system directly.
@daze8410
@daze8410 2 роки тому
@@noahluppe Yeah that's what the guy had in the video. It was pumped throughout the house and used for "hot" water
@noahluppe
@noahluppe 2 роки тому
@@daze8410 I know them as connected systems, so the water heater and solar collectors are both connected to the same hot water tank, so even if the sun just makes a couple of Kelvin you save up on the heater's energy consumption.
@charlesrense5199
@charlesrense5199 2 роки тому
"If done correctly" Well see, that's the sticking point.
@sc149
@sc149 2 роки тому
It can be built into any ac that vents outside- "if it gets cooler outside than inside, and ac is set to standby, then draw air inside"
@05AcuraRSXtypeS
@05AcuraRSXtypeS 2 роки тому
a common theme of those who seek to control others... It always wasnt done the right way but next time, next time it will be done better.
@squidvis
@squidvis 2 роки тому
I say we just upgrade the power grid..
@sc149
@sc149 2 роки тому
@@squidvis there isnt a single power grid to upgrade, other than federal interstate state conections. just interconected providers. maybe some will decide to upgrade but limited supply and high demand can be really profitable. ala the price hikes during the texas blizzard. the american grid is distributed to the control of 500 companies.
@Exxeron-ob3tv
@Exxeron-ob3tv 2 роки тому
You can always trust a huge corporation to have your best interest and welfare as their first priority.
@eetadakimasu
@eetadakimasu 2 роки тому
Thank you for you great videos and the outtakes that reminds me, we're all just human!
@2011k1500
@2011k1500 Рік тому
I have been doing this for years. Also, I have an 8 foot basement and set up rooms for most of the activities I like to do in the evening there. I like to think that I'm also extending the life of my AC unit as most days it only cycles 1 time. Like you, I have my system set up to circulate the air in the house if there is no heat or cooling demand. My house is comfortable all day. Also, I enjoy it cool when I sleep.
@Affews100
@Affews100 2 роки тому
23:20 "🎵 proactively smooth jazz 🎵" Love those subtitles
@OrangeC7
@OrangeC7 2 роки тому
Isn't it much more pleasant to listen to than the reactively smooth junk they play on the radio
@jima1135
@jima1135 2 роки тому
There is a secret message at the end of the video in the subtitles
@GavinScrimgeour
@GavinScrimgeour 2 роки тому
The guy’s house must be freezing - he’s been wearing a jacket throughout the video 🤣
@illbeyourmonster1959
@illbeyourmonster1959 2 роки тому
He keeps his Air Condtioning on 24/7 to keep his load stable.
@nvrndingsmmr
@nvrndingsmmr 2 роки тому
Ah so you're new here! Welcome! Lmao
@andreaspandega6319
@andreaspandega6319 2 роки тому
Haha
@rkwatchauralnautsjediparty7303
@rkwatchauralnautsjediparty7303 2 роки тому
His orange jacket.
@RockHudrock
@RockHudrock 2 роки тому
Why aren’t we using modular nuclear plants? They’re insanely safe and not too expensive. It is highly responsive and can be drawn upon 24x7
@loganmancuso3791
@loganmancuso3791 2 роки тому
This is very interesting, I always just read the news and steered away from it but I'm going to look more into this. I love saving energy.
@damianace3826
@damianace3826 9 місяців тому
I really liked this video! Thank you for the informational content you provided me today. :)
@TheCetarius
@TheCetarius 2 роки тому
The Celsius conversion is very much appreciated! (:
@Quantum-Bullet
@Quantum-Bullet 2 роки тому
Phil McCracken accurate would be 9/5 *C + 32, and the -40 is a thing.
@alecoloxa
@alecoloxa 2 роки тому
@Phil McCracken yeah but most of the world doesn't want to have a calculator in the hand all day...
@dominiccasts
@dominiccasts 2 роки тому
@Phil McCracken I've honestly just memorized every 10°C jump in Fahrenheit up to 40°C, and then from there go 2°F for every 1°C. It's off by 1°F when you get close to multiples of 5°C, but close enough anyway.
@FoxEagle993
@FoxEagle993 2 роки тому
I just remember that each degree Fahrenheit is 0.55°C (recurring) and then guess wildly from there! I am often wrong
@sarahkaren8873
@sarahkaren8873 2 роки тому
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@EcceJack
@EcceJack 2 роки тому
"Assuming the buildings are somewhat modern, well-insulated and have good windows..." THE UK HAS LEFT THE CHAT (for _every one_ of those three assumptions, too, not just combined xD)
@neilsluman8267
@neilsluman8267 2 роки тому
Most houses have cavity wall insulation, loft insulation and double glazing these days. Hardly any have air conditioning of course. Also heating is usually gas based but the principle does apply for all-electric houses.
@jbaidley
@jbaidley 2 роки тому
If you think it's bad in the UK, you haven't been to the US!
@Karjis
@Karjis 2 роки тому
@@jbaidley yeah, I was amazed in Michigan to see several commercial buildings had ZERO seals on doors and there was a clear gap under the door so that light shined through! And as far as I know Lansign has a real winter, north enough. I was not amazed to see basically same doors in Houston but come on, in Michigan! Did not have the possibility to visit anyones even semi-modern house but commercial buildings were really leaky, also the hotel was built like a haystack.
@inyobill
@inyobill 2 роки тому
Heavy masonry houses tend to be more common in the UK (also here in Germany) than California, where I lived most of my life. These structures are fantastic as heat sinks, summer and winter.
@pwnmeisterage
@pwnmeisterage 2 роки тому
Money is always spent on making homes look good. But the "invisible" materials which can't be seen - insulation, wiring, plumbing, foundation, etc - are always the first victims of cheap budgeting. If you don't have the money to build/buy a well-made home now then you'll have to pay the costs in other ways later.
@briansisko2608
@briansisko2608 4 місяці тому
The use of higher elevation reservoirs, as you described, is analogous to how extra water is stored in a water tower to both provide water and maintain water pressure, especially during peak hours. I did not know this method was used to ‘store’ hydroelectric energy. This was the first I’d heard of it. Thank you for the information. I love your videos.
@COSolar6419
@COSolar6419 Рік тому
Living in the more arid regions of the western US, we use to do that by opening all the windows at night and then closing everything up in the morning. It worked most of the time and since we did not have an AC it was our best option.
@ki85squared
@ki85squared 2 роки тому
Replace home lighting with wall-to-wall, glow in the dark stars for nostalgia *and* energy savings!
@MargaritoTrevino
@MargaritoTrevino 2 роки тому
Why not just use glow in the dark paint
@SusanIvanova2257
@SusanIvanova2257 2 роки тому
@@MargaritoTrevino cause that would be less fun and misses the nostalgia factor
@ambassador.to.Christ
@ambassador.to.Christ 2 роки тому
Lol
@setcheck67
@setcheck67 2 роки тому
@@MargaritoTrevino Well just like the glow in the dark stars it's not bright enough to actually be able to see what you're doing. Now some radium paint and we're in business.
@farrela3620
@farrela3620 2 роки тому
@@setcheck67 Well at that point might as well sprinkle your food with uranium salt and you might start glowing someday. Pure profits!
@jayspeidell
@jayspeidell 2 роки тому
Watching this as an apartment dweller with no AC and an entire wall made of uninsulated glass that faces the sun. ... cool.
@psirvent8
@psirvent8 2 роки тому
Maybe you can install curtains or blinds ?
@jon_j__
@jon_j__ 2 роки тому
In addition, if you want to go high-tech, I think you can get films or coatings that selectively reflect IR (and/or UV, although that's not relevant for this discussion) while being transparent to visible light. Combine that with double glazing etc and windows can be pretty good insulators.
@TiaKatt
@TiaKatt 2 роки тому
@@jon_j__ Yeah! Those reflective films work *really* well, and since they can be a temp installation (a bit of an adhesive on the film + soapy water basically, pretty easy to remove when necessary), they can be very appropriate for an apartment dweller who can't make more permanent changes.
@gideonlapidus8996
@gideonlapidus8996 2 роки тому
Very well explained you definitely done intensive research
@sictransit8887
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I worked with an Engineer decades ago in Phoenix, who purchased at auction one of those portable ice machine trailers for a few hundred dollars for this purpose. He buried it in his backyard and plumbed his house HVAC air ducts into it. At night, when the utility company incentivized peak demand at night with super low rates, he was freezing water in his buried freezer. During the day, when it was 115F outside, he was melting ice by cycling house air through it to that kept his house at 60F. It paid for itself in a year or two. All homes should have such a system.
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