Battery Type Comparison || Lead Acid VS NiMH VS Li-Ion VS LiPo

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In this VS episode I will compare the gravimetric and volumetric energy density and the price of lead acid, NiMH, Li-Ion and LiPo batteries with one another. I will also talk about how dangerous each battery type can be and what kind of battery you should get for your next project.
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@LazerLord10
@LazerLord10 7 років тому
Li-Po is great for high-power discharge!
@LazerLord10
@LazerLord10 7 років тому
***** yup. Sounds about right. There's also Li-Fe (lithium Iron), which is pretty low power (mine is 2A max).
@CAv-lp2qk
@CAv-lp2qk 7 років тому
+kingknut icr, inr, imr all meaningless really, as no standardisation amongst all manufacturers in this regard. High discharge "li-po" in an 18650 package are being called "Ii-ion", and low discharge "li-ion" in a soft pouch is still "li-ion".. Go figure!!
@LazerLord10
@LazerLord10 7 років тому
***** Well, they're good for RC transmitters because they're low power, and don't need to be set at a storage voltage. Like all batteries, they're fit for a specific purpose.
@CAv-lp2qk
@CAv-lp2qk 7 років тому
Unless their from certain online hobby store... Their cheaper transmitter packs have been known to puff when left charged.. Probably reject cells rebranded, might have a tiny bit of iron in the recipe so marketing calls em "li-fe".. ni-mh Eneloops are great for tx's
@profsacin
@profsacin 7 років тому
Good review. High discharge current is also important.
@tomaszatko9562
@tomaszatko9562 11 місяців тому
Making use of the ukposts.infoUgkxcJ22tnHH9l1vjdIdEIG27iOG55P7LXI8 reconditioning plan, I just saved 2 auto batteries from being completely junked. The guides were very simple to follow. I wish I would have found this years ago! You may use the guide to recondition any battery type
@embeddedbastler6406
@embeddedbastler6406 7 років тому
4:38 use neodymium magnets to get these clamps on a single cell? excellent idea, why i never thought this way? thanks for the tip.
@macrossactual
@macrossactual 7 років тому
Same. that is genius.
@andyhoffmann8550
@andyhoffmann8550 7 років тому
The life is so simple, sometimes ;-)
@jasonbay13
@jasonbay13 7 років тому
this is probably the most helpful thing i've never thought of. always have trouble with this, just so happens i have a stack of mini neo's right next to me.
@justtoaskthequestion1422
@justtoaskthequestion1422 7 років тому
I had it in mind for a long time but I was wondering is it actually safe/recommended to run electricity through a permament magnet? I couldn't find anything about anyone even attempting to do so on the internet so I figured there is some issue I am not aware of (and that is probably too obvious to even mention it), hence noneones uses it this way and was the reason why I couldn't find anything. Could someone shed some light?
@userPrehistoricman
@userPrehistoricman 7 років тому
I think the magnets have a moderate 0.5-2 ohm resistance which makes them okay for charging small batteries
@mongfin01
@mongfin01 7 років тому
fantastic video bro! it got pretty information-heavy in the middle, but your summary at the end was perfect for understanding. keep up the good work!
@georgegibson707
@georgegibson707 7 років тому
Battery life (charge cycles), Rate of self discharge, Charge efficiency (energy in vs out)can be factors in the choice too.
@krzysiekzdrojewski6865
@krzysiekzdrojewski6865 3 роки тому
Yeah, maybe
@antkoos
@antkoos 3 роки тому
how can you measure the charge efficiency?
@Trakkson
@Trakkson 3 роки тому
@@antkoos Congrats bro, you just dug out 3yo comment. Anyway, you can just measure energy "pumped" into the cell when charging, then measure te energy sucked out of it and compare the two.
@levelup1279
@levelup1279 2 роки тому
They all work forever, just repair it if it breaks then you have infinite charges
@1224chrisng
@1224chrisng 2 роки тому
In terms of charge cycles, Lead Acid is weird in that there are 2 types of batteries with different ratings. "Deep Cycle" batteries are made from solid pieces of lead and can be fully charged and discharged many times, whereas "Starting Lighting and Ignition" batteries are made of lead sponge and can degrade rapidly if fully discharged
@TheMrRafaelB
@TheMrRafaelB 7 років тому
As usual, another great video. Thank you for spending your time to provide us all these information
@donaldfilbert4832
@donaldfilbert4832 7 років тому
As usual - excellent information!! Well organized - concise and complete - and totally relevant !! Thanks a ton !!!
@choimdachoim9491
@choimdachoim9491 4 роки тому
Wow! A perfect quality informational video...the best I've seen out of thousands.
@arefdaneshfar177
@arefdaneshfar177 3 роки тому
Bro, this video was a great review. Thank you for sharing!
@cucumber1389
@cucumber1389 4 роки тому
This was the exact video I needed for assurance on my NiMH battery, thanks a lot
@IncroyablesExperiences
@IncroyablesExperiences 7 років тому
If the test would have been conducted with a 1C discharge rate, the LiPo would have been the incontestable winner because of it's low internal resistance. What more, after years, the internal resistance of lithium batterie do not increase as much as other technologies. For those two reasons, after a while, the winner in each categories (even the price) is the LiPo for a high power device as an eBike :) Nice video, usefull informations !
@bitelaserkhalif
@bitelaserkhalif 7 років тому
Incroyables Expériences bad things about lipo: too fragile that even note 7 blows up itself
@choupi4719
@choupi4719 7 років тому
Bon de vous voir ici !
@DarkSlayer-xk3fb
@DarkSlayer-xk3fb 6 років тому
Bitelaserkhalif 555 That's because they did not add the proper battery protection circuit
@renmaru4485
@renmaru4485 6 років тому
DarkSlayer 1411 no the problem was battery itself
@dududu7694
@dududu7694 6 років тому
I think Note 7 is liion, not lipo.
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 7 років тому
Very informative! a good clear comparison of battery types and the reasons for each. Not every day you get a comparison of tech without "fanboy" hype! thanks!
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 7 років тому
You're welcome ;-)
@Edu_RJR
@Edu_RJR 7 років тому
this video is great! really puts in perspective many aspects of why you should use different kinds of batteries in different applications.
@dogastus
@dogastus 7 років тому
Very slick video which answers a lot of questions. Many thanks.
@Eicles
@Eicles 7 років тому
Really enjoyed this video. Great comparison!
@MrF4eable
@MrF4eable 7 років тому
Thanks bro ! Your videos are always helpful ;)!
@FlorianEagox
@FlorianEagox 3 роки тому
Thanks! This is exactly what I was wanting and super helpful.
@silverst4233
@silverst4233 3 роки тому
you are the best... no one explained it that easy an fast... thank you, and it is true you are great scott! 👍😉
@cibimbox9195
@cibimbox9195 7 років тому
Good video. You could make video about those batteries abilities in cold/hot weather. Power outputs and etc.
@thiagocamargoalima
@thiagocamargoalima 7 років тому
Awesome video, Scott! Congratulations!
@2309phil
@2309phil 7 років тому
A very well prepared and presented video. Good work.
@vlcekmlcek3393
@vlcekmlcek3393 7 років тому
Thanks for this nice summary video!
@NicholasAarons
@NicholasAarons 7 років тому
Fantastic Video Dude. Very Cool. Keep up the great work. Nick.
@mebibyte9347
@mebibyte9347 19 днів тому
For the algorithms in charge, this is evergreen content. The whole channel is an international treasure ❤
@DuongTrongHue
@DuongTrongHue 7 років тому
Great video. You always describes in clear way and easy to understand. Try your best. Thanks
@dj5quar3
@dj5quar3 7 років тому
I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL SO MUCH!
@AhmadEsmaeel
@AhmadEsmaeel 7 років тому
that was really the information i need to know ... thank you
@erobos111
@erobos111 3 роки тому
Very interesting, couldn't follow your math, however, you explained all very well. Good job!
@isaacgonzalez9295
@isaacgonzalez9295 7 років тому
Thanks for making this video it helps alot.
@Slava-om1sz
@Slava-om1sz 5 років тому
That was great, but I was hoping to so find out more differences in how these technologies behave. For example discharging while not in use, capactity decrease over time and after X amount of recharge cycles, etc.
@wahidasad4853
@wahidasad4853 2 роки тому
Well for that i may not be so right but once i charged my diy lithium ion battery fan and I don't know how i lost it .but after one and a half month i found it and it gave me pretty much the same backup it usually does . Don't know it might have lost a little bit of energy.🤔
@brunokertesz2908
@brunokertesz2908 7 років тому
Very nice video!!I waited for your opinion of battery types becouse your one of my favourite youtubers.In my opinion i choose the Li-Ion types ,one of my friends brought me a lot of them.Keep up the good work!
@arrowstheorem1881
@arrowstheorem1881 7 років тому
Very informative! Thanks for your video.
@Makerside
@Makerside 7 років тому
400K subscribers! congratulaions! keep going )
@brzydka_i_bestia
@brzydka_i_bestia 7 років тому
Good video. I have recently found a smashed ps3 controller outside with a lithium ion battery in it. It was not discharged below 3 volts, after charging and testing i have a good battery for my next project :)
@wojciechtechtips1602
@wojciechtechtips1602 7 років тому
I love your vids keep up the good work :)
@nimlhug138
@nimlhug138 7 років тому
While I was watching, my wife noticed that you are left-handed just like me. But with a pretty hand-writing tho.
@aymankidwany8119
@aymankidwany8119 7 років тому
thank you ! thank you ! thank you !, that's very helpful for me. good job :D
@gg48gg
@gg48gg 5 років тому
very thorough and well presented
@bhaskarpaul3432
@bhaskarpaul3432 4 роки тому
You are making awesome contents.
@GoDroneX
@GoDroneX 7 років тому
Well done as usual!
@KoRtExXx
@KoRtExXx 7 років тому
I love that magnet idea
@Hemewl
@Hemewl 7 років тому
You might also want to consider operational temperature for charging and discharging. For instance, in an outdoor installation in cold weather a NiMH will probably win at all times.
@mas-udal-hassan9277
@mas-udal-hassan9277 Місяць тому
Yes
@olivermarkus6917
@olivermarkus6917 7 років тому
thx m8. really helpful video
@mekomeqvabishvili4595
@mekomeqvabishvili4595 6 років тому
Nice and helpful video, can you advice which one is for mini quattro project or elec-bike??
@caesium2339
@caesium2339 3 роки тому
when you were measuring the lithium-ion cells and that 65mm dimensions with a calliper that gave me goosebumps as I thought you were about to short it out.
@usmani93
@usmani93 7 років тому
nice explanation , love it!
@MrMath-xm9fk
@MrMath-xm9fk 2 місяці тому
Great job and study, keep the good work... One more point better to be taken into consideration while discussing the cost is the lifetime of each kind (in other words its number of cycles before loosing 20% of its nominal capacity)
@MauroRochat
@MauroRochat 7 років тому
Very good video! Congratulations
@cmantop
@cmantop 7 років тому
excellent comparison!!!
@FireSwordl
@FireSwordl 7 років тому
Wonderful video! Next time include supercapacitors too, although they are expensive and have low energy density :)
@techkri
@techkri 3 роки тому
Thanks for your effort
@batteryeverfit6666
@batteryeverfit6666 2 роки тому
Thank you very much for the explanation and knowledge,。
@andsgiant
@andsgiant 3 роки тому
Thanks for educational video, I just dismantle Li Po/battery... It is smell, itchy and hot when touching the layers!!
@shlomibarg
@shlomibarg 7 років тому
Very good and helpful , thank you.
@ahmedelectricianofiraq5550
@ahmedelectricianofiraq5550 5 років тому
Great scott yours videos is great
@Reza-nu9gn
@Reza-nu9gn 7 років тому
Nicely Explained Well Done!
@davidgrigoryan3616
@davidgrigoryan3616 7 років тому
You are my role model 📺🔋🔌🔦
@pepper669
@pepper669 6 років тому
I'm using a lot of NiMH batteries from Ikea ($7 for 4) and Aldi ($6 for 4) plus a few power boosters to power my Arduinos and they work just fine.
@AbdulRehman-eo2hv
@AbdulRehman-eo2hv 6 років тому
Bro you are amazing 😇
@mihtibby
@mihtibby 7 років тому
ready for the video
@jollyreal1
@jollyreal1 7 років тому
thank this really help!!
@TheFabimon
@TheFabimon 7 років тому
Great overview!
@someperson7
@someperson7 2 роки тому
I would have liked you to cover the effect of temperature on each variety. Still, very good video and analysis 👍🏻
@solosinti320
@solosinti320 6 років тому
muchas gracias ,hoy aprendi algo Nuevo
@AlexSantos-db6fm
@AlexSantos-db6fm 5 років тому
Excelent video! Thanks !
@phenomen113
@phenomen113 7 років тому
Can you do a tutorial how to use multiple Li-Ion cells in series within a portable project? (like speakers or something) Including charging circuit with an external powersupply, balance circuit(-board) etc. That would be very helpful!
@dutxinm6746
@dutxinm6746 6 років тому
Very well said sir.
@215485hggv
@215485hggv 7 років тому
thanks for all advices and informations, I appreciate all your projects. However, what do you know about hall sensors. Can you explain it in a video?
@andyharbottle4175
@andyharbottle4175 7 років тому
your video's are fantastic
@SymphonyKol_androidLover
@SymphonyKol_androidLover 5 років тому
Amazingly made video.
@BobSmith-in1zh
@BobSmith-in1zh 7 років тому
hi I love your chanel, the idea think that your chanel is very entertaining & informative.i would like if you took a look at the udoo x86 & made a review & comparison to other board thank & keep doing what you do
@pokulan
@pokulan 6 років тому
I have old Sanyo 18650s from IBM laptop battery in my portable speaker, I discharged them to 0.05v... But without problems I charged the speaker to 4,2v and t works again like a charm :D
@akhurash
@akhurash 7 років тому
I think one more advantage to using lead acid is that they perform better in colder conditions than the other types. By perform I mean they are not as susceptible to temperature changes as the other types.
@yousurf374
@yousurf374 5 років тому
And NiMH is ot so bad in cold either and can be charged in cold conditions too.
@miguellopez3392
@miguellopez3392 4 роки тому
Lithium ion batteries perform better in the cold most cars that don't start in the winter are stuck there because their lead acid batteries failing.
@mishracisco
@mishracisco 3 роки тому
Yes bro acid lead battery is best
@mishracisco
@mishracisco 3 роки тому
👍👍
@SDRLG
@SDRLG 7 років тому
Great Video!
@raptorswire3128
@raptorswire3128 6 років тому
great useful video!
@jarno4054
@jarno4054 6 років тому
Very good video, more like this please, I like
@revoxsvko
@revoxsvko 7 років тому
Great vid!
@luigipizzolito5597
@luigipizzolito5597 7 років тому
Great videos!!
@adoniscmj3212
@adoniscmj3212 6 років тому
This is really a good way to look at battery power. I use 18650 type cells due to there energy. Lead acid batteries can be dangerous as well. When charging they give off hydrogen gas, that can explode if there is a spark, plus they contain lots of lead and sulfuric acid, so not really the safest option. The 18650 can be dangerous, but as long as you are careful with them, they can really be useful. They are getting safer everyday and they are getting more out of them as well. I look forward to seeing just how much better they can get.
@alirezaghaderi
@alirezaghaderi 4 роки тому
Great Video Thankss
@abdoun8214
@abdoun8214 10 місяців тому
I have almost 15 years old 12V NiMH (1500Mah) Battery pack , it still working well .
@Mardsds
@Mardsds 7 років тому
very informative!
@don38341
@don38341 6 років тому
Great video 💪💪💪💪💜
@CAv-lp2qk
@CAv-lp2qk 7 років тому
Worth mentioning also the big difference between a car battery and the deep cycle battery shown! To complicate even more, you can now get "lithium-ion" aaa, aa, 9v ect. batteries with micro USB ports in them for charging!
@NOXFPV
@NOXFPV 4 роки тому
Nice video, thanks.
@JeroenTrappers
@JeroenTrappers 7 років тому
Number of expected cycles, high vs low discharge current requirements, charge time,... may also be things to consider.
@angelisone
@angelisone 9 місяців тому
What type of battery should one uses for having external battery for camera speedlight/Thor's Hammer flash? Again, making it & feeding it voltage into the flash.
@jetlaggedchef6806
@jetlaggedchef6806 5 років тому
Great video! What about safety and lifespan around salt water? (Like on a boat for an electric motor?)
@chronophagocytosis
@chronophagocytosis 6 років тому
Your use of SI units was pretty good, but I would still have used J instead of Wh. Anyway, keep up the good work!
@lampofthestreet
@lampofthestreet 4 роки тому
Depends who you ask. I think in his field he uses Wh more than J
@chronophagocytosis
@chronophagocytosis 3 місяці тому
Because J is the correct unit of energy, just like m is the correct unit of length. What else is there to say?@@user-kx8vn6tm1d
@shaharpaz
@shaharpaz 6 років тому
nice video ...does any batteries emit toxic gases or vapors ?
@dansanger5340
@dansanger5340 7 років тому
There's also supercapacitors, which can be useful in some low capacity applications. The digitizer pen for my laptop uses a supercapacitor instead of a chemical battery, and it recharges in 15 seconds.
@krishnashokmore
@krishnashokmore 7 років тому
Great vedio!! BTW I have a doubt - in Li-PO batteries u showed us the 3 batteries together with a current reading of 4.1 amph. then what would be the reading of a single cell in it. Help me with the calculations.
@dachew57
@dachew57 5 років тому
Nice comparisons. Would it be helpful to add a 5th point about storage life? For example, lipo's shouldn't be stored for long fully charged, but should instead be brought to 80% capacity. And lead acid has very good shelf life.
@Proofinc
@Proofinc 2 місяці тому
Hi guys, what module can I use to make a 10000mah Lipo battery pack ???🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@parkerproffitt3012
@parkerproffitt3012 7 років тому
Will you ever do a video on sdr?
@desmeitit
@desmeitit 7 років тому
I like the video! However, you should make a note in the description saying that these are all rechargeable batteries. as the NiMH "should" be 1.5 volts
@GadgetReviewVideos
@GadgetReviewVideos 7 років тому
It interesting that you chose the 2450mA NImH batteries branded as Sanyo. I believe Panasonic now owns that brand and the average capacity for them are 2100mA. The price point is also different, cheaper then what you noted. But in the end I don't think it would affect your over all graphing.
@IgorNeumann-me
@IgorNeumann-me 4 роки тому
Also how many amps you can draw at once is a factor, that would benefit the lead acid ones, hence being so good for starting a car.
@Aatikslab
@Aatikslab 7 років тому
Great scott i wonder how would remember these large quantity of sooo much complex formula 😁😅
@gidimiz
@gidimiz 7 років тому
I saw that some people also mentioned, LifePo4. They are lower in power density, but: They are safer, easy to use, and they are 3.2V almost constant. This save the DC-DC in circuits and also makes it simple to charge. Check them out!
@Reinierderu
@Reinierderu 7 років тому
One thing you should always take into account when looking at the different batteries and the prices it the amount of cycles you will get out of them. Yes lead acid is cheaper when you only look at the initial cost but you get a lot of cycles out of them and will result in replacing them on a regular basis. Li-Ion can give you a lot of cycles depending on the quality and they have a higher DoD than most batteries thus giving you more usable energy. Lead acid typical DoD is only 50% and when discharged past this point (that you can do safely) will drastically reduce its life time and could cause permanent damage to the unit.
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