it is a movie not documentary, get your shit togheter and drink something to clam yourself!

@@maximus-6788 I'll bet this guy is down a couple.

@@maximus-6788 I'm fine thank you. I'm just saying that there's no point in making an history movie about a character and an era if you miss everything about them. Battles are so ridiculously depicted that I wouldn't be surprised to see fighter jets or UFOs joining the melee. Actually, Scott should have done that, it would have been more consistent.

Shitty movie, period.

@@maximus-6788 yeah... the movie was bad lmao

such a napoleon thing to napoleon

Lol

The battle on this ice was overblown and only about 100 enemy were drowned. Historians says this is Napoleonic propaganda. Like Ukrainians destroying Russian tanks with 25 mm cannons on Bradley infantry vehicles!!

@@iamgermaneand the lake was deep as the ocean, LOL :D

@@iamgermane It's true that is mostly propaganda, as if the Austrian Army would march over a frozen river, scouts would've been sent ahead and this battle was planned on both sides, only a few hundred at most tried to flee across a river at the end of the battle and it was blown up by Napoleon, tho is does sound cool.

Underrated comment

😂

Its a movie

Lol. I like your comment for the shade, but will still be open to watching it.

It took me four attempts to be able to finish that movie. I love history and I love movies. I love when they are able to combined both aspects . But I can go along with a movie that is wrong historically (I read books for that) but is at least well made and entertaining like for exemple; "Gladiator" , "the Imitation Game", "The Monuments Men" or even "Inglorious Bastard". But Napoleon was first and foremost so boring. I hated that movie.

Yeah like TRENCHES in 1805 my guy? TRENCHES IN 1805?

@@potatomine6678 They should have added some aliens. I mean if you're gonna fail at History, go big, man.

I don't know. Nappy being part of a cavalry charge at Waterloo has to be competitive.

@@kduke42 yeah

@@kduke42 dont forget the sniper scope musket

Then l guess his grandfather is completely wrong

@@skychia5777 It's one of those gay memethingies people do. Like that old 'He Protec, he attac'.

Mrs Smith? Allo?

The grandpa thought it happened in 1916 or some shit

​@@skychia5777 It's a reference to the black granny that was in the Cleopatra ad from Netflix, where she says this exact line "I remember my grandmother saying to me: I don't care what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was black"

nice place for metal detecting

Nah, i was in this battle and died. It was foggy, cold and gray.

@@hoenircanute Hahahahahaha

@@hoenircanute I just cant. this is too funny!!!

It is actually a flat country.

How?

@@OnionSavoya-jf5hz 😀

@@OnionSavoya-jf5hz soundwaves.

@@GFS695 Sound waves?

All ADC's had speed super powers.

If your interest in the subject is casual it will make no difference, youll have forgotten most within the week, accurate or not. Youre in the cinema for loosely based history and entertainment. If your interest in the subject is more serious then youll research an accurate account and know the full details.

Scott in no way portrayed the scale of the battle. Your knowledge of it is in need of some reading. Almost everything about its depiction was historically inaccurate.

Just cope and move on

Yeah, that's a bit weird.

maybe not the actual high ground since they rush towards the camp, maybe he meant it to be the upperhand

@@Rawarart Maybe. But then later he explicitly says 'take their position on the higher ground', which is also something that happened at the actual Battle of Austerlitz. I think Joaquin is saying things that would fit the actual battle, but don't fit with what we're seeing in this scene at all.

"Let them think they have the element of surprise!" Would have been a more fitting line.

@@MadFox-jr6by In the scene we got, yes absolutely. But of course the line would be fine if Ridley Scott made any effort to depict the Battle of Austerlitz.

If youre a film maker and have to translate the full history into a semi-fiction, which captures the spirit of the times in compressed timescale, while pleasing the general public and allowing for captivating marketing, and still turning a profit. Then its pretty good. And Id like to see the youtube finger waggers do better. Theyd end up with an historically accurate claymation and a bankrupt studio.

​​@@tedcrilly46but my guy, there's TRENCHES In the scene😢

@@potatomine6678 oh no. Best not go see it then. Save yourself.

@@tedcrilly46 I will save myself, don't worry Bro.

@@potatomine6678 👍

Finally, someone else is saying it!

it looks horrible. the CGI is atrocious. 4/10

@@laius6047 that's simply not true, come on. You don't like the movie, fine, but give it its credit

agree

Its not historical inaccurate. Its complete bullshit. If you dont care about the truth- yeah then you may like this scene. But its neither about napoleon nor about austerlitz

What streaming service has the mini series?

Stop watching Hollywood for historical accuracy. That's on you, not Ridley and Jaquin. They're trying to make money, not a documentary.

@@thedude1987I believe NSA was referring to EpicHistoryTV’s UKposts miniseries on Napoleonic Wars.

Its a mix of the opening battle from Gladiator and Saving private Ryan. Actually its not THAT bad. They just exaggerated minor episode of the battle and put in in the center of events. Almost as Napoleon himself did, btw. He Reported like 20 000 drоwned in those pond, haha. Anyways they could have done much much better with this movie. Still gonna watch it.

​@@user-zl5pz9qu8lMy guy it's bad. Both Peace & War movies did a better job the Ridley Scott's prediction. Comes to show that the old man has finally lost his edge in the modern age

General Kutuzov: "I told you"

Mfing napoleon: Got em boys.

Yeah, I questioned the choice of JP for this role. Maybe a brit? They have very good actors.

Americans can't tell who the last five Vice-Presidents were let alone expound on Napoleonic history; we just eat popcorn and stare at the screen. Lol 🇺🇸

⁠@@gterrymed Funny you mention America given this movie was made by a Brit. If you don’t even know who you’re criticizing I think you ought to stop talking.

@@fatboyRAY24 LOL! True! Some people just wanna talk.

@@fatboyRAY24 Does that matter? Americans would make up a large portion of the target audience.

Where you there though?

One rainy day, Ridley, David and Joaquin sat in a bar and... "Guys, how about we pull off a 200-million worth troll move? Announce a movie about famous historical figure, get boatload of cash from Sony, then make movie intentionally so bad that everyone gets totally pissed and we get to laugh reading their angry comments".

Because this was the propagandized version of the battle.

at the very least it made their powder useless as falling into the water would render their shots useless. +the icy shock of cold water in the midst of facing artillery would psychologically lower moral at least for whatever Russian unit was charging. But yeah it probably wasn't a brilliant 10213948IQ move, it was just a good move on a series of good moves napoleon did to win the battle.

@@fierylightning3422 Perhaps, by being politically correct with current Western politics and the context of the war Russia is now in (at least a maximized real victory comes in handy).

Don't put the blame squarely on Ridley, Napoleon also had a way with propaganda; inflating those numbers to suit his purpose.

Es la batalla de Ásterix.

Such a good film, honestly felt like you were there

No matter how much I've watched Napoleon movies, it really hurts seeing the greatest general losing so much in his last battle.

Thanks for the tip: i was so glad when i found out they were making this movie, then I saw the bloody "trailer" and just wanted to puke. I like Phoenix in the role too, but this stupid (and ive learned to expect gratuitous crap in movies) clown show wont even break even in Albanian VHS Rentals!

​@@k-studio8112I finally understand why my sisters keep watching titanic

What's wrong with Waterloo's ending?? Napoleon's defeat and the destruction of the Old Guard was easily one of the best parts of the movie. But yes I agree with you, Waterloo is a masterpiece and it is a shame that more people don't know about it. Really underrated

Painfull anyway...a very coarse painting made by a declining artist

I mean, it looked cool

Cinematography was good no? Lol. I do get the criticism though. You'd think with this big a budget they could afford some historical accuracy

These were not the conditions they fought in at Austerlitz. December 2, 1805, was a beautiful day with a low-hanging mist that cleared as the sun heated the atmosphere.

​@@RollTide1987then why portray it missing the mark so far its a harsh winter in this scene

@@derekkase7884drama

Or they were fools. The Napoleonic wars of this time gave birth to the phrase "cannon fodder."

The battle on this ice was overblown and only about 100 enemy were drowned. Historians says this is Napoleonic propaganda. Like Ukrainians destroying Russian tanks with 25 mm cannons on Bradley infantry vehicles!!

If a movie is based on history it should do what it can to both make it as accurater as it can while being entertaining somethiung this film fails horribly at, no one was expecting a paly by play of the battle but this was just silly and no army has ever made a single 70,000 mass column and simply flung it at the enemy ever. ultimately this should ahve been an 6 part series of movies each part being 1-2 years as there is simply to much to cover in a single movie.

Master and commander.

@@tommiatkins3443 my favorite film. I was thinking one that shows the infantry battles

@@bennihana2422 Does "Waterloo" qualify?

​@@pianopeterr does indeed

Once Europeans can start making their own films and not just Anglo's and Israeli's then yeah.

One of the greatest butchers you mean

@@luisruperez1921 He was a conqueror, you deny that?

@@luisruperez1921butcher? All Europe was against France. He didn’t massacred thousands of innocent people like Hitler or Staline did

@@plantboy6249 No, I deny there is something "great" about it

@@luisruperez1921 Do you know what greatest means? It means he was one of the best conquerors, which he was. I don't care about your opinions, he was one of the greatest conquerors.

I could get past that if they at least had good accents to help make it feel more authentic 😅 but yea, they feel very American on screen

The American accent for Napoleon was so annoying.

@@plantboy6249is Pheonix American?

As an American I find it impossible to get into most historical movies if they're in modern English. Hell, even if this movie was in modern French, or even Early Modern English ffs I could get into it, but having them speak in modern English just ruins the immersion for me unfortunately.

@@keystohellanddeath right? No shade to Americans, but someone as iconoc as Napoleon feels super strange on screen with an American accent. It's kinda like if Hitler (obviously not the protagonist) was in a movie without a German accent. It would just feel...strange.

you can see the tactical genius all over the place in this scene, do you need the audience to be beaten over the head with whats going on? I appreciate directors that don't make movies for the lowest common denominator

@@ArchaicTTV in the real battle the french army use the fog to just march in the middle of the austrian army, with the sun revealing the french when they were pratically few meters from the enemy, isn't this enough to show the tactical genius of napoleon? Do you need the abused trick of the ice lake for show this tactical genius?

@@ArchaicTTV Where? Where is there any tactical genius in this scene? Where do you get the slightest idea of the sheer size of these battles? It all looks like it takes place within a range of 500 meters at best. My first thought was: Why are they signaling? He could just walk over and tell them in person...

​@@ArchaicTTV🤣 that's funny because u ARE THE LOWEST DENOMINATOR!!! This movie has been grilled to death by everyone, especially movie experts. There is NO battle genius in this clip at all. By saving the cannons for last, for after the battle you've increased ur losses by delaying deaths of ur enemy. 🤣 They portrayed him as a football coach!

How did they not know they were about to cross a frozen lake?

the movie focus is Napoleon love life :)

@@Rastamanjungle yikes

TERRIBLE MOVIE, all his major exploits shown in the movie were nothing but brief clips, it was like watching a 2.5 hour trailer!

crap movie. Should have been called: Josephine (his wife).

should have been titled: Josephine.@@Rastamanjungle

you lived there hundreds of ywars ago? damn

no lol. but mountains and valleys don't magically appear in 200 years.@@zachporter8864

​@@zachporter8864 just look at artistic depictions of the battle from the time please

@@bluestraw4060 i was making a joke >.>

@@bluestraw4060 have to admit his comment is perfect for it lol,he Used to live there. couldve been 3000 years ago

Ridley Scott, top actors & massive budget, fantastic episode of European history all blended together to produce this pit of absolute kack filled bilge!! Pity, cos it had the recipe to become a modern classic!!

YES, I AM NOT VERY HAPPY OF THIS SIMPLIFICATION AS SIMPLE AMBUSH FOR ONE OF THE MOST FORMIDABLE BATTLE IN WHOLE HISTORY: THE BATTLE OF THE 3 EMPERORS WITH 3 BIGGEST NATIONS ARMIES OF THE TIME (THE CLASH OF ABOUT 200 000 MEN WITH THOUSANDS OF HORSES AND HUNDREDS OF CANONS ON BOTH SIDES). THIS BATTLE COULD HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF ONE FILM LIKE THE FAMOUS "WATERLOO" FILM. BUT YOU CANT EXPECT FROM ENEMIES TO PRESENT YOU AS GOOD AS YOU REALLY ARE. I REALLY WONDER SOMETIMES WHY LOT OF AMERICANS FORGOT WHAT COUNTRY MADE THEM INDEPENDENT AND FROM WHAT COUNTRY. THE FACT THAT BRITS AND RUSSIANS SHOW FRENCH WHEN THEY LOSE, DOESNT SURPRISE ME SO MUCH.

@@marcdedouvan Ridley Scott is British, not American.

@@kevinchen7403 OKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL IS REVEALED NOW!

Also because the frozen lake part was at the very end of the battle when everything was already lost for the Austrian Russian army.

This movie was for ENTERTAINMENT only. It never claimed to be a faithful re-telling. For the love of God if you try to present the facts of Austerlitz, and all the other battles, while trying to show how Napoleon came to be the Emperor and lost his crown, the movie would have to be countless hours long! You people are just the worst kind of pedants.

@@superyid2010 what a idiotic comment, you dont need to focus 1hour on josefine matter to have a good napoleon movie. Nobody asks a detailed battle, but a least a 30% accurate one with exciting moments that actually happened and would take same time on screen. If you dont realize the director wanted to make the scenes of his liking instead of accuracy and deliberating ignoring spectators desires, you're the one pedant here.

Agree 100% with this. People who watch this obviously enjoy history so just be glad epic films like this are even made ! ​@superyid2010

Maybe you should of directed the movie🙄

@@bobmanhattan451 Well we are just simple peasants; they win millions for directing, and we pay in cinemas for that. Is not bad to expect a good quality movie.

Let me guess, you were there to see the OG battle

@@adamn5666 You missed the point of his comment

@@a1k1gen ah nope i get it, what is a Group of infantry going to do from high ground with Muskets? None of us have a clue how these wars were fought. Its all Opinion and speculation

he was very meticulous with his orders and would spend days sending orders across to all the different units involved in a campaign and was very detailed in what to do, where to rest, where to forage and bed down etc.

@@adamn5666 have you ever heard of primary sources? We're not dealing with ancient warfare here, this is contemporary history.

Thats Sun Tzu

@@UparmoredClownCar Sun Tzu is fake, non historical thing, written after 1800..

@@UparmoredClownCar No, that quote was in fact Napoleon.

🤣 that's why no one interrupted the making of this movie! IT WAS ALL A MISTAKE!

How did they not know they were about to cross a frozen lake?

Their goal: let's make a chick flick but just put enough battle in for a good trailer. See the trailer you've seen the movie.

Aren't you seeing that it is more important to focus the film on the toxic love of Napoleon and Josephine?

Yeah like waterloo (from 1970) and it's way bettee than this shit

​@@PUG19 I hope this is sarcastic

@@potatomine6678 I'll have to check it out

EeeeeeeeYUP!

How did it go

@@KMDragonS Napoleon sent his army north in pursuit of the Allies but then ordered his forces to retreat so he could feign a grave weakness to lure the Allies into thinking that they were facing a weak army, while it was in fact formidable. Napoleon gave every indication in the days preceding the engagement that the French army was in a pitiful state, even abandoning the dominant Pratzen Heights near Austerlitz. He deployed the French army below the Pratzen Heights and deliberately weakened his right flank, enticing the Allies to launch a major assault there in the hopes of rolling up the French line. A forced march from Vienna by Marshal Davout and his III Corps plugged the gap left by Napoleon just in time. Meanwhile, the heavy Allied deployment against the French right weakened the Allied center on the Pratzen Heights, which was viciously attacked by the IV Corps of Marshal Soult. With the Allied center demolished, the French swept through both enemy flanks and sent the Allies fleeing chaotically, capturing thousands of prisoners in the process. There was no huge frozen lake, just ponds. .

Inaccurate depictions of the Battle of Austerlitz do haunt me so.

The director is Ridley Scott. He's English, not American.

Scott is 80+ years old 😮 what do you expect.

​@@MaDFroG88Sounds like that some logic should apply to the president of the US😂😂

For the record, Gladiator was so historically inaccurate that it makes Napoleon look like a documentary

So his work is lacking and he’s maybe lost his touch…so you take away the respect? Please don’t ever be a leader.

@@justinkuhn598 exactly. i don't know why people think gladiator is such a great movie.. i mean.. probably cause not many movies like that were made, because it was inaccurate af. it's fantasy at best. in the real world, maximus would have been dead the moment they knew he was alive. no gladiator has ever been regarded above the emperor of rome lol

That isn’t correct, once the pretzel heights where taken he immediately went up there in person to oversee the canons being fired on the lake, napoleon was famous for being involved in the fighting

I think you got austerlitz mixed up with wagram.

As a Canadian, visiting the battlefield, and Waterloo just a week before last spring was a dream come true, and then I was super hyped for this movie

Yea, but sadly movie is not made the right way. 4/10@@jonathanallard2128

I know, I was so disappointed!! What a waste! It was the first time I went to the theaters in years because I thought all the movies that came out seemed like shit. And this movie just proved me right.@@Inferno912

​@@Inferno912 why ?

The didn't have google map back then but napoleon did

What makes you think they were locals? Most men in the army had never traveled more than 50 miles from the spot they were born when they joined the army, and half the men there were from a different country entirely.

​@@christopherpardell4418which country/ empire??

@@PortugalZeroworldcup Napoleon’s letter stated that his former allies had joined with his enemy. The Czar.

@@christopherpardell4418 is this specific to the battle in the video?? Which year ?? And what do you think of the movie overall??

The real Napoleon is probably watching this from the afterlife half-between malding and salivating lol

I don't know much either but apparently Austerlitz wasn't fought in the snow and there wasn't a frozen lake.

Overall the tactics the layout and the short duration of battle people are complaining about since it's definitely wrong. Such as the cannonballs on the ice Napolean in history exaggerated saying thousands died but realistically only a couple hundred died due to that play. The battle was miles long and over a full day as well. People are so upset about this however on my side I just love it for the drama effect despite it being depicted wrong. This battle is inaccurate in the movie to what it was in history but what I keep telling people is if you want to see a Documentary then go see a Documentary, this is a movie and this is drama of course there's gonna be a few wrong points, they're not gonna make one whole battle the entire movie when it's about Napolean and his story not a movie about one of Napoleans battles.

Is it a romance? I thought it was a comedy.

Actually it was quite a horror

Was looking for something like this on the high-ground line, lol

@@treeburger a surprise to be sure...but a welcomed one x)

It’s a movie. Go watch Jurassic Park if you want nonfiction.

@@professorbenjaminfranklinv9911 My issue with this movie is that it wouldn't have been difficult or more expensive to be more historically accurate. There are some parts in this movie I admire and there's some evidence they did their research, but then there's parts like Napoleon leading a charge into Russians at Borodino that make the movie seem like a joke.

You underestimate the power of Alexander and Francis.

Napoleon won because wellington lost. 😂😂

Historically though he actually won by giving up the high ground .

The idea of lakes that deep and ice that think in early December in that region is ludicrous. The whole thing looks like the artic ocean. If the camera turned down, I'm pretty sure we could see the Titanic...

Yes. He should have. But other than that, Napoleon was a true American Warrior!

Waterloo (1970) was better than this shit

@@adamcohen4864 what do you mean ?

@@adamcohen4864 I mean Napoléon Bonaparte is known to have been the Emperor of the French form 1804 to 1815 and to be the best general in history. He was born in 1769 and died in 1821. But you have Wikipedia for that kind of question...

@@adamcohen4864 You are not making much sense,please improve your coherence and knowledge of the toppic.

@@adamcohen4864 u are trolling right lmao

Полностью с вами согласен.

I'm absolutely agree with you.

what lake im curious as theres no lake near this size within 25km of the battlefield

@@Joe-nz5wo There are some ponds near the battlefield. Some Russian soldiers drowned in one of them when they tried to retreat. The whole area south and west from where the battle took place used to be a big marsh/swamp region. I was born and raised in there. When I was kid in our school there were pumps in the basement constantly pumping water. It"s much drier these days. That said the scene in the movie is of course complete nonsense.

@@Shob81 thanks for the info.

Amoslagyap watched the movie clip. See. I can state the obvious too...

Simply put no, we can't... You can't be thankful for a bad movie just because it exists, that's really really weird.

@@Delogrosdisagree

@@videogamesare1 Well thats just silly, not the disagreeing in and of itself but with the core concept, we should expect better then an expensive poop of a film

Genius?! 😂

Sound. Yay. Gotta love sound.

No it doesn't lol. What a freaking stupid movie on so many levels. I want my money back

​@@patrickmonaghan9131you have a good ear. Soundtrack is garbage.

Sounds like the sound used in Blackhawk Down.

Well… I was especially disappointed by that music. There are so many french songs renown and he chose this american song to portray a Napoleon’s victory ? Like seriously ?

This is what happens when you just focus on height and not skill

Well, Ridley Scott did portray Wellesley as a crusty and grizzled old man. I’ve heard people say that this movie is just anti history.

The first few USA presidents probably did Btw I I wish the traditional clothing of czechia, Hungary, Norway, Ukraine etc got attention too

i wished the world didn't modernize further and stayed like this.

@@JinKazama92 Be the change you want to see

@@JinKazama92 i dont agree, but i love nepoleonic era dressing . they are too epic and far better than modern crap clothings.

Yeah and remove the trenches, it's not 1916

@potatomine6678 yea I don't know what's up with that

@@potatomine6678 US Civil war? aren't they the precursors that pioneered Trench Warfare?

as someone who is into military I cant get over how bad the strategy and how much important was left out. If they had put some effort into researching how things really played out they could've picked alot of cool moment at least. Like when Davout arrived just in time with his 3rd corps or when when russian and french elite units went toe to toe on the heights. And the music choice is soo shit. Like it should at least elevate my feelings or something but its straight up painful to listen,