Behind the Scenes - The Story of Cult Films: Lost in Translation

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#sofiacoppola #billmurray #documentary
Tracing the making of Lost in Translation (2003).Guillaume Tunzini,FRA,2015.

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@agh.abolfazl204
@agh.abolfazl204 7 місяців тому
she said it best: "half-awake in Tokyo". that's the movie in a sentence and probably every first time traveler's experience
@gardencity3558
@gardencity3558 Рік тому
Was living around Tokyo when this was made. Probably the only western film that caputres the unique character of Japan.
@FrancisGo.
@FrancisGo. 7 місяців тому
I love UKpostsrs who live in Japan, but I sort of wish I could have experienced loneliness in Japan as it was before the advent of social media, with its illusion of familiarity. I see people tweeting from Japan who might as well be right around the corner because they haven't changed and diverged from the online persona they've been curating since early on.
@tdfrie
@tdfrie 7 місяців тому
I live in Japan. My Japanese friends - almost universally - strongly dislike this film. They feel it is nothing more than one stereotype after another and does not show Japan at all. It only shows a foreigners romanticized and fetishized version of what a foreigner wants Japan to be. To experience real Japan, they tell me, foreigners must spend time outside of the major cities. Tokyo is no more representative of Japan, than NYC is of America.
@EchelonPandora
@EchelonPandora 5 місяців тому
​@@tdfrie that's the point. The two characters only stay for a while so they don't get the full experience and they get to romanticise the experience. This film doesn't want to some grand thing
@strawsonian
@strawsonian 4 місяці тому
It’s fair to say the film isn’t made for the Japanese market. But Tokyo feels like a character in the film, at least architecturally.
@bigcale
@bigcale Рік тому
Lost in Translation is an amazing, amazing piece of work. I remember thinking, “wow” after my first time seeing it. Love it.
@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302
@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302 9 місяців тому
We all know what Bill whispered in Johanson's ear. "My all time favorite cartoon cat is Garfiled, and i really feel lucky to play his voice in the coming Garfield movie."
@Keisuke_op
@Keisuke_op 7 місяців тому
I’m Japanese and I still recommend people to watch this film when they ask me what Japan is like. None of the Ninja, samurai crap. This is the most accurate image of Japan. Love the music that goes with it too.
@vjmtz
@vjmtz 7 місяців тому
Curious, did you find this movie to be racist? As two people here have said to me about it being so. I don't think it is, but would like to hear your perspective
@mwj5368
@mwj5368 7 місяців тому
@@vjmtz I think Bob had moments of being irate but was burning out with the many advertising re-takes that was wearing on him and also other stresses. Really they aren't thinking of many things when they say it's all racist, like the mystique of being in such a modern and amazing city as Tokyo, the beautiful sharing the Japanese ladies gave Charlotte showing her how to arrange the flowers without speaking a word that to me was very moving. I think in the Shinto religion that is called "Feng Shui" a way or ordering your environment. Also that was beautiful the special place Charlot went I think in the traditional city of Kyoto, and that beautiful Japanese traditional wedding and when she tied some origami figure or prayer to that tree. Also, I've never seen a beautiful and unique wedding like that before! Charlot's friends too were so nice and how they without hardly a word enjoyed each other and as she and Bob left all their cares behind and were absorbed by the moment. I liked too when she was at that temple and the monks were chanting. I think there were moments of parodies like the comedian's show on TV Bob was in, the strip joint, and other more like short moments that I think was more a parody on Western modern world influence of commercialism so actually holding a mirror to the Western world and not Japan. I still hest that beautiful song when Charlot is sitting in the window gazing out at such an amazing world as Tokyo and Japan. I like the others songs too and the one I think is named, "Just Like Honey". Is there a soundtrack CD somewhere?
@vjmtz
@vjmtz 7 місяців тому
@@mwj5368I agree, and I think the racism comments aren't seeing the depth there, imo of course. And I do think the movie is definitely about how an amazing, beautiful place like Japan...a place many people world wide see with envy and fascination - you can be lonely, sad, and unhappy despite all that amazing culture and beauty, a place where some would say "how can you feel lonely in such a lively amazing place?". I assume you are talking about the song when she's going to Kyoto? That would be Air - Alone in Kyoto. Most of the soundtrack is done by a french band called Air, you will dig them. They also did the full soundtrack for The Virgin Suicides. A great movie Sophia Coppolla did before Lost in Translation. I highly suggest their music. The strip club scene song is by Peaches - Fuck The Pain Away. Last song at the end is The Jesus Mary Chain - Just Like Honey. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_in_Translation_(soundtrack)
@AutumnRed
@AutumnRed 7 місяців тому
sure, and I'm a martian and I always recommend people to watch Mars Attacks when they want to know how my planet is really like, so accurate
@Keisuke_op
@Keisuke_op 7 місяців тому
@@vjmtz It’s a comedy on differences in cultures and customs. So sure, some people may find it offensive or off putting. I personally didn’t find it racist or offensive. I rather found it funny. :) At the end of the day, it’s a subjective matter.
@ciphermkiii
@ciphermkiii 7 місяців тому
A film, which an old, dear friend introduced to me. Thinking back makes the memories somewhat feel, like how I feel now when I watch this movie. I’ve seen it many times and it always makes me feel the sense of wonder and slight confusion.
@danieljakubik3428
@danieljakubik3428 7 місяців тому
I loved this movie. I consider it a meditation on the nature of friendship. The film is about reaching out and having difficulty connecting with others. It's a movie about mood and observation, not about story and plot. I love how this film was made in such a gentle and graceful manner. Sophia Coppola's second and best film. Perceptive and insightful about human nature.
@65g4
@65g4 8 місяців тому
I just came from a 20th anniversary screening in Auckland my home city in New Zealand seeing it again in a theatre after all these years it a magicial night its my all time favourite movie i will never forget this night
@tiamatxvxianash9202
@tiamatxvxianash9202 7 місяців тому
Love stories come in many forms. But Soffia Coppola's masterpiece is in a league of its own. And it is a league that is recognized or even understood by very few. Those of us that have experienced such enchanting moments when we were young and again as we've grown older, cherish this film immensely. For Lost In Translation is one of our own personally mirrored images of our heart's past exchanges. When none of us were truly lost and that of which was translated between us, enriched only infinity upon the love of man and woman.
@just4therecord
@just4therecord 7 місяців тому
Everyone in making this movie is just genius, especially Sofia Coppola.
@thesoulless116
@thesoulless116 Рік тому
I just fell in love with this masterpiece 12 years ago and have been rewatching it every year since then. Great documentary btw!
@jghbkjniphobihgjhbiuohip
@jghbkjniphobihgjhbiuohip 4 місяці тому
I just couldn't stop imagining sofia as Scarlett's character.
@Antiorganizer
@Antiorganizer 7 місяців тому
This film is awesome. Everyone in it is awesome. Sofia is REALLY awesome! Frig, the enthusiasm, determination, intelligence, it's dripping off of her.
@insculldrew
@insculldrew 7 місяців тому
One of my all time favorites. I don't think there could have been a more perfect role for Bill Murray, and he perfectly captured the angst, confusion, and general exhaustion of what comes next, even when you're someone as famous as him. The cinematography, brilliant at is core, beautifully shows the juxtaposition of Japan: a dizzying, busy technological landscape surrounded by tradition, beauty, and calm. Combine that all with a wonderful soundtrack (notably Charlotte's trip to Kyoto), and you've got a cinematic masterpiece that taps into the emotional unlike any other.
@kenrehor
@kenrehor 5 місяців тому
Sofia wrote the script for Bill and Scarlett. I'm glad they both agreed to make the film.
@bartpickford1836
@bartpickford1836 Рік тому
20 years old, this year, but as timeless as ever. It invites you in and then envelopes you. One of the most stunning films ever. Thank you, Sofia
@mwj5368
@mwj5368 7 місяців тому
I love many parts of this too! I loved too when she was alone looking out the window and that New Age kind of music, and the music at the beginning when Bob is arriving in Tokyo. It would be amazing to go there, but read that it's the most expensive city in the world. I hope to ride my bicycle around the world but I bet it's hard to camp in my tent in Tokyo ha! It would be amazing to ride bike all over Japan too! The Mori forests and to go through the big Tori gates and think about their unique religion. It must be amazing too some of the places Charlotte goes and so neat when she's learning to arrange the flowers with the traditionally dressed ladies, and a lot more, just them having fun and chasing around the city and her friends. I still wish she'd make a sequel no matter what she said, and people can change their minds. As I write this I can hear that song that plays when Charlotte is alone looking out the window at Tokyo. I try to write music like that but no way do I arrive there to a place of hope and mystery with such a metaphorical view as is Charlotte's . I wish that part was longer, or the whole story for that matter ha!
@RicMansur
@RicMansur Рік тому
Love this movie so much, seen it a thousand times and never gets old
@Historian212
@Historian212 7 місяців тому
One of my all-time favorites. Just gorgeous. With heart.
@shankarlakshmanan6167
@shankarlakshmanan6167 Рік тому
Thank you for this gem! I think I'll watch this over and over again over the years... just like I do with the movie.
@renoesmaeilian9489
@renoesmaeilian9489 7 місяців тому
I’ve seen this movie many times and will watch it again. Every time I finish watching it I get the same satisfaction that you would get after reading your favorite novella.
@JapanNights
@JapanNights 5 місяців тому
My favorite movie. This was a treat to watch. Thank you for this.
@kylesparrow9996
@kylesparrow9996 4 місяці тому
It is my favorite movie as well ❤
@cal_chrisdera
@cal_chrisdera 22 дні тому
Great documentary! Such a gem for the nerds who want to know everything about the movies they love. Thank you!!
@TheDareos93
@TheDareos93 10 місяців тому
Amazing documentary, thank you!
@the_smart_cookies_pod
@the_smart_cookies_pod 7 місяців тому
An incredible film. One of my all time FAVES
@DayOff1
@DayOff1 11 місяців тому
One of the best movies ever made
@kenb.1212
@kenb.1212 Рік тому
Yes, thank you for this! It's wonderful.
@lonelyloser69
@lonelyloser69 3 місяці тому
Man Bill Murray is a fucking G lol who has that much control to just decide to show up whenever the hell he feels like it with no obligation. Every man's dream
@hatbpto5180
@hatbpto5180 Рік тому
Absolutely loved this movie
@peterlyonsphoto
@peterlyonsphoto Місяць тому
Love this film so much… and this makes me appreciate it even more. thank you!
@cashew1
@cashew1 8 місяців тому
Tokyo was the right place to film this movie. But, you can also say this took part in other places in Asia in the 80s, Singapore, Hong Kong, Thailand. An Expat a little lost meeting another of the same.
@markandrewhoran
@markandrewhoran 7 місяців тому
Very well done documentary on a film that continues to hold people's interest. Some of the comments below about the film being "racist" or "promoting adultery" are just nonsense. Life is messy, and this film gave a sort of poetic look at how important it is to find someone to connect with.
@Books-Movies-Podcasts-zt2hi
@Books-Movies-Podcasts-zt2hi 7 місяців тому
some of it was, but again contextually in 2003, most of America was. And it was "okay" to make casual racial jokes for some people, or at least in private. The world has opened up a lot more since then with the Internet, etc. Yep Life is messy, and the movie brilliantly captures loneliness in relationships, and those times where we're in a rut, or stuck very well. And it also does an amazing job in capturing Japan, and the modern city life with all the lights, and people in it. Very cool, but still a slightly weird age gap between the characters. But I'd say Bill Murray pulls it off well, and not creepy that much imo except to some people as I've seen also comment about that elsewhere. I'm not in that camp, but did feel a little weird as it felt a little more like flirting than friendship at many times. Outside the kiss, which was meaningful, and symbolizes the significance of the relationship, it didn't move beyond it, which kind of made it OK, and constitutes just the blurriness of life at times, and this weird thing and mess we call that's life.
@mpgski9598
@mpgski9598 7 місяців тому
The whisper at the end felt like a Zen koan similar to if a tree falls in the wood and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? Scarlett did visit a temple, Bob did fire golf balls at Mt Fuji a very sacred icon, he helped her medically, and returned her coat. The movie has spiritual overtones that connect it. We're all connected, but due to translation issues, don't always recognize it.
@Verboten-xn4rx
@Verboten-xn4rx 7 місяців тому
Last Life In The Universe ( 2004) is the Japanese LIT. Like Translation a minor perfect gem of eerie Zen nothingness with one of the most stunning endings to a film ever.
@scootertart
@scootertart Рік тому
Such a brilliant documentary about a movie that I truly love- thanks for the upload.
@TylerDeneuve
@TylerDeneuve 11 місяців тому
Thank you so much for uploading this!
@duskfall_777
@duskfall_777 Рік тому
Thanks for posting this it’s my favourite movie
@JacksonFreed-gx9hi
@JacksonFreed-gx9hi Рік тому
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
@vilefaust
@vilefaust Рік тому
my favourite film of all time so happy to see this
@deecohen1383
@deecohen1383 7 місяців тому
I have always and will always love this movie. One of my favorites. Love Sofias movies.
@jordddn
@jordddn Рік тому
Thank you for this
@earthling9891
@earthling9891 Рік тому
I‘ve just watched this as I couldn‘t fall asleep- thank you for uploading
@knew_man
@knew_man 7 місяців тому
Gah ... Sofia is so gorgeous. And cool. And talented.
@gmabber
@gmabber Рік тому
What a great documentary on a magnificent movie! I really appreciate all the behind the scenes insights. 🙏🏻
@hoderharris
@hoderharris Рік тому
Thanks for uploading. Excellent documentary.
@65g4
@65g4 9 місяців тому
i love this film the only film from the 21st century on my all time top 20 list i adore Sofia and all her film. This is a great documentary and makes me appreciate the film even more
@jorgjorgsen7528
@jorgjorgsen7528 7 місяців тому
ok boomer
@65g4
@65g4 7 місяців тому
@@jorgjorgsen7528lol im not a boomer im a melinnial i was born in 86 although sometimes i wish i was
@cinecyclist
@cinecyclist 7 місяців тому
By coincidence, this film came out not long before my first trip to Tokyo - I loved the film, and it turned out to reflect part of my trip there... that being said, the film really only captures a small part of the Tokyo experience. It is for sure a very dreamy city.
@MrHereWeGoYo
@MrHereWeGoYo 7 місяців тому
Absolutely adore this movie to no end. ❤ Love everything about it but it's the soundtrack that really hooked me. It's completely made up of music and artists I've never heard of and it is perfection.
@monkut
@monkut 7 місяців тому
Saw Bill Murray coming out of a yoshinoya in Roppongi at 4am or so coming home from a club, when I assume they were filming this. 😂
@colors6692
@colors6692 7 місяців тому
This film was made 20 years ago...so no you are mistaken!
@monkut
@monkut 7 місяців тому
I appreciate the assumption that I am too young for this to happen...but, as surprising as it may be, some of us are over 40. I saw him some time in 2001 or 2002, before the film was released. So I could be mistaken, and he was here for something else, but the times seem to line up well, and I figured it was during filming.
@jok658
@jok658 7 місяців тому
Such a great movie ❤
@JimmyGunawanX
@JimmyGunawanX 7 місяців тому
watching this in 2023 and I still "lost in translation" when in regards to Japan
@coreyandersson1786
@coreyandersson1786 Рік тому
Such a great movie
@pal54321
@pal54321 8 місяців тому
great film
@cmerritt6799
@cmerritt6799 11 місяців тому
great documentary
@jcabram9002
@jcabram9002 16 днів тому
Anybody else had a crush on Sofia in Godfather III? 😅 She was so cute.
@user-mh9ib2nc7v
@user-mh9ib2nc7v 7 місяців тому
Lost in Translation perfectly captures the paradox of being unable to connect in our crowded planet.
@Altopasto
@Altopasto Місяць тому
I've saw this in the theater with my father. He hated it (a laughing-hate). But hated so much he always tell the story of that day. He even told the story to my soon-to-be wife the last time I saw him before his stroke. He always had a laugh with that memory.
@MikeUIibarri
@MikeUIibarri 7 місяців тому
How long have I been in love with this beautiful woman? I can never look away whenever I see her. Ever since we were kids.
@EchelonPandora
@EchelonPandora 5 місяців тому
Sofia or Scarlet?
@TexasMan77
@TexasMan77 2 місяці тому
Remember watching it at the theater. Great movie but felt sad for the characters.
@niixx324
@niixx324 Місяць тому
Unconsumed love, pure potential, it is the ultimate.
@ana______gonzalez
@ana______gonzalez 7 місяців тому
LOVE
@digitalrico
@digitalrico 6 місяців тому
Half awake in Tokyo
@fredbissnette3104
@fredbissnette3104 7 місяців тому
Hypnotic film
@stevenl4950
@stevenl4950 11 місяців тому
Great movie
@MichaelWitting
@MichaelWitting 7 місяців тому
A great documentation, I just wish there were more Japanese perspectives on the movie and how it was perceived by Japanese critics and audience seeing their own culture depicted that way. In the end western movies about Japan or set in Japan tend to draw from that common stereotype mostly seen from a western angle.
@zabaks123
@zabaks123 7 місяців тому
I don't think it's a movie about Japan. It uses the atmosphere of Japan and the feeling of being a tourist in such different culture to underline character's feelings of being alien to their own lifes.
@Books-Movies-Podcasts-zt2hi
@Books-Movies-Podcasts-zt2hi 7 місяців тому
They would prob think it's racist. I would be interested in film critics of Japan and their takes too. But it was in 2003, and again we forget how isolated the world was. Much less than the 90's and every decade before. But still before the prevalence of Internet, and internet culture. Before Facebook, UKposts, Google, etc. Movie was strictly from an American perspective, and America was casually racist before 2003 and Obama, and less diverse/ pushing predominantly white American views as a continuation from the 90's.
@brachiator1
@brachiator1 7 місяців тому
​@@Books-Movies-Podcasts-zt2hiEvery claim that I've seen that the film is racist has come from someone in the West. This includes some Asian Americans. I have never seen any Japanese critical appraisals. Also, I have never seen a Western attack of the film from any critic who speaks Japanese. They totally ignore the Japanese dialog in the film and also ignore the Japanese characters.
@GodofStories
@GodofStories 7 місяців тому
That's fair and understandable, that it's a view from a western lens. I see a comment by a Japanese man recommending the film. But could also be that they're indifferent. If someone mocks their accents, they may not mind. Maybe there is a line, if they mock other physical characteristics like eyes, etc, it may be obviously offensive and racially offensive. The film does mock the height of Japanese people perhaps in the shower scene where Murray has to adjust the height of the shower. But anyways, not reading into every minute detail, but times change. That was 2003. Maybe many Japanese also are self-deprecating and enjoy it humorously@@brachiator1 (btw I'm the same commentator as @Books-movies-podcasts its just another of my channels)... As a fan of Japan, the portrayal, and Japanese people shown in the movie are authentic, and I dig it. Just on my rewatch of it, I felt some of the humorous digs at the Japanese culture while authentic was slightly unnecessary or insulting - like everyone has a business cards, they talk a lot apparently but actually mean v. little (suntory director scene), but arcades/karaoke depictions were all well done and the shots are all really beautiful, but again context was 2003.
@AutumnRed
@AutumnRed 7 місяців тому
@@brachiator1that's just not true, a lot of Japanese people also found the movie quite racist and based in wrong stereotypes, and that for a reason, the movie is just stupid in that sense and indeed quite racist
@paulzeman3748
@paulzeman3748 Рік тому
Lost in translation is the best film ever, I guess
@ismaelsalguero8353
@ismaelsalguero8353 11 місяців тому
9:40 what song is it????
@LostScene
@LostScene 11 місяців тому
Kevin Shields - Are You Awake?
@ismaelsalguero8353
@ismaelsalguero8353 11 місяців тому
@@LostScene 💗
@mwj5368
@mwj5368 Рік тому
What Bob whispered into Charlot's ear I felt was a no-brainer because how she reacted when Bob had a fling with the nightclub singer, and also when there was the fire alarm and they met in the waiting area. Bob said he didn't feel like he wanted to go home and she said, "So don't." To me that was another major indication that it had become more than platonic, that it wasn't "over". He had a responsibility to his family and she to her husband, but that they had changed. It would take time but I think he whispered something in her ear that related to it not being over. A sequel would be nice but I think Sophia doesn't want that. Also Bill had said in an interview that what had been whispered was something important only between two lovers, which was also to me another indication. So that's my amateur view. Oh, I'm feeling lonely this evening and going to watch it on my DVD ha! I bought the DVD because I was checking it out of the library so much the last time the librarian gave me the eye like I should feel guilty ha! This is a great documentary and so intriguing to see it from the film maker's perspective. I like the bonus parts in the DVD too. Thank you Teo for a great doc!
@Historian212
@Historian212 7 місяців тому
When the writer/director tells you that she doesn't see them getting together in the future, believe her.
@mwj5368
@mwj5368 7 місяців тому
@@Historian212Hi! I didn't know Sophia said that and I'm behind the times in the film world. I also meant that within the context of what I observed and what was said during the fire alarm gathering when they spoke the last time other than the indiscernible whisper. Bill said in an interview that the whisper was only what is said between two close individuals. Also throughout the story I felt that all didn't rest on the mystery of the whisper as I observed the overall. Thanks for your input as it's interesting to hear what the actual author said in the subsequent interview.
@alessandrabenedetti1
@alessandrabenedetti1 7 місяців тому
🤩
@rosy0371
@rosy0371 7 місяців тому
Marilyn Monroe was in the same situation. She was depressed every day waiting for Joe DiMaggio at the Imperial Hotel.
@yuyutubee8435
@yuyutubee8435 6 місяців тому
That's fascinating! I'm imagining Marilyn sitting at Frank Lloyd Wright's Old Imperial Bar like Charlotte at the Park Hyatt, waiting for her Bob Harris. ❤
@krspykreame1
@krspykreame1 Рік тому
It just blows my mind they shot this in 27 days no permits just straight up guerilla style. Makes me think I could do it myself 😂
@underfladisk
@underfladisk Місяць тому
share what you think he whispers in her ear!
@thehumanatelier
@thehumanatelier Місяць тому
❄️💙.
@tinotrivino
@tinotrivino 7 місяців тому
26:00
@Books-Movies-Podcasts-zt2hi
@Books-Movies-Podcasts-zt2hi 7 місяців тому
lots of cultures leave it late. I'm from India and it's same. Japanese time keeping culture is unique, but must also be respected.
@AutumnRed
@AutumnRed 7 місяців тому
true, and the whole movie seems to portray how ignorants Americans can actually be, including the movie director herself
@yuyutubee8435
@yuyutubee8435 6 місяців тому
No culture is as perfidiously punctual as the Japanese, not even the Germans. We're all just ten minutes behind them.
@rinowx5
@rinowx5 7 місяців тому
25:23 this is why we’re having the writers strike in America. I understand passion for your craft, but consideration for the lives of the crew is essential.
@yuyutubee8435
@yuyutubee8435 6 місяців тому
... For overstaying at a location ten minutes? I understand that that's a major faux pas in Japanese culture, but that is not in any way extensible to American culture and the writers strike.
@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302
@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302 9 місяців тому
Like Bill would pass the opportunity to be romantically opposite Scarlett Johansson in Japan.... yea right.
@Orson2u
@Orson2u 9 місяців тому
“Lost in Translation” is a cliche that became the fitting title. Yet the Italian language title might be closer, still: “Love Translated.” Please DEBATE!
@kosmos4012
@kosmos4012 9 місяців тому
I think it was supposed to be ironic as this entire film subverts a lot of expectations about relationships.
@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302
@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302 9 місяців тому
The movie is about Charlotte and Bill, who are both feeling lost.... lost emotionally with their personal lives and relationships, lost and in a new world (Japan) where there is also a language barrier, but they somehow find each other. They both have difficulty trying to converse with their significant others emotionally, yet can converse with each other like it's natural, despite their different lives back in the states, as well as their age difference. Lost in Translation seems a perfect title.
@dorkbrandon4422
@dorkbrandon4422 8 місяців тому
Let's MASS DEBATE
@claudiam2474
@claudiam2474 8 місяців тому
The Italian title Is still Lost in translation. L amore tradotto was Just a sub
@Books-Movies-Podcasts-zt2hi
@Books-Movies-Podcasts-zt2hi 7 місяців тому
inteersting
@mariam2964
@mariam2964 7 місяців тому
I really dislike male critics trying to "assign" the newness of something that a female character has done for the first time in film so they come across as avante garde and insightful, when really it's just career trawling hiding the same old misogyny.
@juliettedemaso7588
@juliettedemaso7588 7 місяців тому
The bigger “lost in translation” to me is that all of this is being crafted by a woman who experiences life, travel, Tokyo, culture, in a very different way than the vast majority of us ever will. And the characters are only moderately privileged, pretty much normies by her standards; Sofia marionettes these relative plebs through a liminal space and time drawn from her own extraordinary childhood memories. She said as much. We can’t entirely relate to this film, she can’t entirely relate to these characters, but most of us know what it’s like to be in a hotel, and what’s it’s like to be in a place very different than our usual, and of course we all know what it feels like to yearn deeply for a real connection. We all know what alienation feels like, what having both main character syndrome AND engulfed in a massive nameless tide of life feels like. Where a simple piece of buoyant driftwood becomes your greatest need. She may have accidentally or deliberately or both, shown in this film how commercial constructs, treasured by wrote, can lose all meaning when the context changes, when a small patch of ceiling falls in a movie theater and no one but you seems to even notice.,then one person clearly does.. the movie is no longer your central focus; it is barely a focus at all as this new context occurs. And as to her stereotypes and cliches.. are they deliberately done this way to show how the characters are experiencingJapan, to show how cartoonizing and troping people, assigning their identities for them, removes your ability to see their humanity, ironically causing YOU to experience worse isolation yourself. I don’t know. My greatest issue with this film is Scarlett’s age. It’s not okay. She was a minor. Ah but in a world constructed to manufacture exclusivity, competition, idols on plinths, rarely attainable dreams, we will argue that hey plenty of 17 year olds are working, anyone would trade with Scarlett.. Instead of saying we work for the privilege to work, and allow the system to do this to our children. Oh, and pair a 17 year old girl intimately with a man old enough to be her dad. There were NO other humans capable of doing this role? Psh.
@rickr530
@rickr530 7 місяців тому
It's really not your place to decide if making this movie was appropriate for Scarlett, that's for her to say. She was already more grown-up and experienced than most and it's not like this was a porn-shoot, it was a well-supervised movie set full of professionals (including her). Teen-aged is old enough to have some agency in your life and even though we make a lot of silly decisions at that age it's all part of the learning experience. I was already moved out of the house at 17 and into my own apartment days after my 18th birthday. It may be uncommon but not exactly rare to start your adult life young.
@yuyutubee8435
@yuyutubee8435 6 місяців тому
This is my favorite film. But I have to say that the underwear bit at the beginning is very problematic, as we're effectively looking at the bare bum of a 17-year-old girl. The rest, because it is so restrained, doesn't bother me. The kisses as conducted on location were not sexual, and I can suspend disbelief that this character isn't actually a girl of 17 and is actually a woman in her mid-20s.
@juliettedemaso7588
@juliettedemaso7588 5 місяців тому
@@rickr530 It is everyone's place to be critical of the price of fame.
@rickr530
@rickr530 7 місяців тому
I understand how this movie could resonate with some but as a visitor to Japan, and a Japanese language-learner and a father to half-Japanese kids there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of this movie connecting with my own experiences. Yeah Japan is different and it's weird and that's also what makes it so interesting, but not to these two characters. Instead of spending any time at all getting into the perspective of their host culture they just scoff at it and mock it and can't wait to leave. Who wants to watch a movie about people having a miserable time at one of your favorite places because of their own unwillingness to be curious and to exist outside of their comfort zones?
@duriahn
@duriahn 7 місяців тому
To me, the point is that the two characters are in certain points in their life (a quarter life crisis and mid life crisis respectively...) where they can't even get themselves to make an effort to connect with a different culture, or even feel the desire to. they are not miserable because they are unwilling to be curious, but unable to. they feel like they have lost the ability to connect with the world outside of them but they find that ability again through each other. japan is a great backdrop to the movie because of how "foreign" it is to the unexposed american viewer but the same plot would have played out in any other location.
@kenrehor
@kenrehor 5 місяців тому
@@duriahn Exactly right.
@jackmercer4244
@jackmercer4244 7 місяців тому
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@AutumnRed
@AutumnRed 7 місяців тому
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@AutumnRed
@AutumnRed 7 місяців тому
I still can't understand why people liked this movie, it was just two ignorant Americans that had little interest to know a very different culture like the Japanese, which was also awfully portrayed with nothing but stupid clichees, but I guess that's where having the family name Coppola helps
@gfabie4901
@gfabie4901 7 місяців тому
So you didn't like it?
@jamesjournalist3919
@jamesjournalist3919 7 місяців тому
If you're going to criticize a move, at least learn how to spell CLICHE
@jasminenguyen123
@jasminenguyen123 7 місяців тому
@AutumnRed Cannot agree with you more. I was absolutely disappointed after watching this meaningless film. I had to watch "In the mood for love" again (which is my most favorite movie so far) to wash my eyes!
@sheng21
@sheng21 7 місяців тому
cult of racist? hahaha
@darrelldunn4618
@darrelldunn4618 7 місяців тому
This was before she started looking Butch.
@65g4
@65g4 2 місяці тому
What are you talking about
@menotyou6254
@menotyou6254 7 місяців тому
It was a horrible movie about adultery trying to make adultery look OK
@redrevoc
@redrevoc 7 місяців тому
Can you elaborate?
@lisaproustresearch
@lisaproustresearch 7 місяців тому
@@redrevoc well, @meno point is that both Murray & Johansen were married in the movie & they clearly cheated emotionally by having their deep connection.
@redrevoc
@redrevoc 7 місяців тому
@@lisaproustresearch sure but I disagree that its "trying to make adultery look OK" that's reaching
@babbonatale276
@babbonatale276 7 місяців тому
that's the dumbest thing I've ever read about this movie. You don't deserve cinema.
@Books-Movies-Podcasts-zt2hi
@Books-Movies-Podcasts-zt2hi 7 місяців тому
lots of movies show adultery, but also not being happy in relationships and that's real life. You can have perfect-ish relationships and marriages, but it's very rare. More over, with the paradox almost of choice in today's world. Hard for people to resist seeking a better relationship, and "settling"
@mowler8042
@mowler8042 7 місяців тому
Two of the worst movies ever made are Lost in Translation and Into the Wild
@jamesjournalist3919
@jamesjournalist3919 7 місяців тому
Do you seriously not have something better to do with your time and your life?
@mowler8042
@mowler8042 7 місяців тому
@@jamesjournalist3919 obviously not
@element4element4
@element4element4 6 місяців тому
I love both those movies. But both are clearly not for everybody, you need to be in some kind of state of mind to really appreciate them. I can easily imagine not liking them, had I watched them in a different part of my life.
@mowler8042
@mowler8042 6 місяців тому
@@element4element4 Scarlett Johansson was a minor when she made the movie. We keep hearing how brilliant the young man in into the wild is (spoiler) he ends up dead because he’s really an idiot.
@element4element4
@element4element4 6 місяців тому
@@mowler8042 Yes, the actress was 17 and yes the story of Into the Wild is about a real person and he died. How do those facts makes the movies bad? I assume this is a lazy attempt at trolling, but if not I wouldn't mind hearing a coherent argument.
@bolanos3
@bolanos3 7 місяців тому
Great movie, I loved it
@9aguirre
@9aguirre 9 місяців тому
Funny, I don’t connect with the characters, I just feel sorry for them.
@keymusic
@keymusic 7 місяців тому
You’re probably very content. I connected very strongly with the film when it came out in 2003 and I still do today in 2023.
@harpy5197
@harpy5197 7 місяців тому
boring
@user-iw2hw2qr6r
@user-iw2hw2qr6r 7 місяців тому
you will get along in this world without being my friend, its ok. i wish you the best :)
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