Ben Shapiro vs Destiny Debate: Politics, Jan 6, Israel, Ukraine & Wokeism | Lex Fridman Podcast

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Ben Shapiro is a conservative political commentator, host of The Ben Shapiro Show, co-founder of The Daily Wire, and author of The Authoritarian Moment and other books. Steven Bonnell, aka Destiny, is a liberal political commentator and a live streamer on UKposts.
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0:00 - Introduction
1:36 - Liberalism vs Conservatism
6:49 - Education
23:06 - Trump vs Biden
43:31 - Foreign policy
56:28 - Israel-Palestine
1:11:25 - Russia-Ukraine
1:23:04 - January 6
1:39:03 - Abuse of power
1:49:01 - Wokeism
1:55:42 - Institutional capture
2:09:36 - Monogamy vs open relationships
2:14:29 - Rapid fire questions
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@lexfridman
@lexfridman 3 місяці тому
Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors below. Transcript: lexfridman.com/ben-shapiro-destiny-debate-transcript 0:00 - Introduction 1:36 - Liberalism vs Conservatism 6:49 - Education 23:06 - Trump vs Biden 43:31 - Foreign policy 56:28 - Israel-Palestine 1:11:25 - Russia-Ukraine 1:23:04 - January 6 1:39:03 - Abuse of power 1:49:01 - Wokeism 1:55:42 - Institutional capture 2:09:36 - Monogamy vs open relationships 2:14:29 - Rapid fire questions Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast: - AG1: drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil - Policygenius: policygenius.com/lex - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off
@_ampersand
@_ampersand 3 місяці тому
Thanks again, Lex!
@Meh-im1qs
@Meh-im1qs 3 місяці тому
WE LOVE YOU LEX
@BBBob123
@BBBob123 3 місяці тому
OOOO
@bigguy4x418
@bigguy4x418 3 місяці тому
Love you, Lex!!! This is great!! Thank you so much for putting this together!!!
@dorado2431
@dorado2431 3 місяці тому
Love you Lex
@viziontrex
@viziontrex 3 місяці тому
Lex hosting the SuperBowl for nerds is a great gift to us all
@nayfanjay9401
@nayfanjay9401 3 місяці тому
Yeah boi!
@dorothyclark8680
@dorothyclark8680 3 місяці тому
YESYESYES
@jackf2210
@jackf2210 3 місяці тому
exactly how i thought of it😂
@watchitallburn
@watchitallburn 3 місяці тому
sadly destiny is like an expansion team that somehow ends up playing the patriots in this "superbowl"
@matthewparlato5626
@matthewparlato5626 3 місяці тому
This was dogshit. Malcom Collins, the Venture Capitalist Stanford Grad Pro-Natalist would eviscerate BOTH of these clowns. js
@andreasesser4641
@andreasesser4641 3 місяці тому
Left vs. Right. Conservative vs. Progressive. Democrat vs Republican. Theist vs Atheist. Traditionalist vs Modernist. Man's name vs Woman's name. This debate truly encapsulated a lot. Thanks Lex.
@user-ce1zb9vb9b
@user-ce1zb9vb9b 3 місяці тому
Yes but the man woman shit
@johng9095
@johng9095 3 місяці тому
​@@QueefMcGeesHousehes connected because hes jewish? Smh
@PerfectHandProductions
@PerfectHandProductions 3 місяці тому
Stripper* name
@othosos
@othosos 3 місяці тому
Imagine being on the side of the guy whos wife is currently getting resized 🤣@@QueefMcGeesHouse
@Winalot
@Winalot 3 місяці тому
@@QueefMcGeesHouse so i guess you're literally still flipping burgers or throwing newspapers on a bike like you did at your first job you tried to make by .. you are pathetic, i bet if you sit to debate face to face you begin to stutter and shake lol
@DerekFuller77
@DerekFuller77 18 днів тому
Now this is how a real debate works. No talking over one another, no insults, just pure conversation between two different sides.
@79chgoh
@79chgoh 5 днів тому
I never saw Ben under so much pressure before
@selmayoga4721
@selmayoga4721 Місяць тому
Oh dear, those two talking ... I bet they will get 10 hrs of conversation in one hour.
@NaturalWeener
@NaturalWeener 3 дні тому
😂
@seanmcconnell1874
@seanmcconnell1874 3 місяці тому
This is 100x better than any presidential debate will ever be
@dannyboyrobb
@dannyboyrobb 3 місяці тому
This should be the presidential debate!
@IronBrigadeStudios
@IronBrigadeStudios 3 місяці тому
If trump is allowed to gish gallop again it'll be 1,000,00x better
@dadnonlyd3
@dadnonlyd3 3 місяці тому
Because presidential debates are just political theatre
@presssquareproductions2303
@presssquareproductions2303 3 місяці тому
gish gallop ... ​@@IronBrigadeStudios
@Quisl
@Quisl 3 місяці тому
Its not so unlikely that either of these guys might do down that road in 20 or 30 years.
@Tooldruid
@Tooldruid 3 місяці тому
This might be the single best debate in the last year. No yelling, very few interruptions, solid moderator, many topics discussed. A debate that's actually not enraging or frustrating to watch.
@AlexHenry-hh8yj
@AlexHenry-hh8yj 3 місяці тому
Very true, most people are incapable of doing this
@SBoss281
@SBoss281 3 місяці тому
You clearly don’t consume much content then
@rebhi8
@rebhi8 3 місяці тому
Destiny isn’t a true representative of the Palestinian cause
@TheWhisperingPenis
@TheWhisperingPenis 3 місяці тому
Yeah its 2 people that respect each other beforehand. I think that has a lot to do with it. Both fully realize the other one isn't an idiot.
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 3 місяці тому
@@rebhi8 That’s correct because he’s openly pro-Israel 🤨
@ericruth133
@ericruth133 25 днів тому
I'm less than one hour in and I already feel like this should be mandatory viewing for all high school seniors. The level of intellect, the respectful discourse, the deep understanding of issues...all are so good. This is what debate should look like. Thanks Lex for making this happen.
@keycuz
@keycuz 24 дні тому
I'm 52 seconds in, I already feel these guys are not going to debate anything worth debating.
@jack-of-all-trades1234
@jack-of-all-trades1234 23 дні тому
Destiny unwittingly damaged his argument that Trump seriously planned an insurrection by pointing out that none of Trump's own picks actually supported his election contentions. A true insurrectionist would have picked the right people to carry out his demands the first time.
@retror.d.1630
@retror.d.1630 22 дні тому
No it shouldn’t. This was too one sided because Destiny is pretty much a Right winger.
@revmsj
@revmsj 22 дні тому
@@retror.d.1630and you are obviously insane
@JJ-sn1wn
@JJ-sn1wn 20 днів тому
@@revmsjDestiny is most definitely not really on the left, he’s center at BEST
@datrumpet5
@datrumpet5 22 дні тому
I had to double-check my UKposts settings because I thought I had set the play mode to 1.5x speed 😂
@FrozenPantiezzz
@FrozenPantiezzz 6 днів тому
2:56 this part had me too 😂
@LetsReadPodcast
@LetsReadPodcast 3 місяці тому
Playing this at 0.25x speed so I can follow 👂 👂
@zkilla2924
@zkilla2924 3 місяці тому
Weird seeing you here man lmao didnt know you were based like that
@blazingstar9638
@blazingstar9638 3 місяці тому
😂😂 right
@ravenclaw1985
@ravenclaw1985 3 місяці тому
😂😂😂
@rodriguezk96
@rodriguezk96 3 місяці тому
Heyyy it's you I love your channel
@tiffanie7139
@tiffanie7139 3 місяці тому
lol exactly. I usually watch everything on 1.75 and these 2 are about the only people I cannot do that with. 😂
@danielebeddia8910
@danielebeddia8910 3 місяці тому
It’s actually insane how much more respectful and mature this was than the past few presidential debates
@poet99999
@poet99999 3 місяці тому
Long form, not just trying to grab legacy media sound bites
@baseguitar02
@baseguitar02 3 місяці тому
this is just a fun debate, presidential debate is more like selling yourself to the world so the people vote for you so it becomes more like making the other person look bad and stupid
@miyojewoltsnasonth2159
@miyojewoltsnasonth2159 3 місяці тому
@@poet99999 I prefer watching videos that are at least an hour. But what percentage of people _prefer_ long form? Sadly, it's probably less than half of people, likely even less. *Reply to:* _"Long form, not just trying to grab legacy media sound bites"_
@dipset4016
@dipset4016 3 місяці тому
Damn imagine this presidential race haha.
@navinnarayan1978
@navinnarayan1978 3 місяці тому
Destiny is not at the same level as Ben.
@paulatling8844
@paulatling8844 27 днів тому
Would have loved a final question for both. Have you changed Alan opinions after this debate
@oneill6291
@oneill6291 29 днів тому
Lex can you tell them to speed it up a bit next time they're on?
@jamaljacksonjr2652
@jamaljacksonjr2652 19 днів тому
😂😅
@SimplyWalkTheTalk
@SimplyWalkTheTalk 3 місяці тому
LEX HOLD MORE DEBATES PLEASE, THIS COUNTRY NEEDS THIS! 🎙️ MUCH APPRECIATED 🇺🇸☮️
@jpg6113
@jpg6113 3 місяці тому
Have Nick Fuentes on
@nooftaheri3502
@nooftaheri3502 3 місяці тому
There are limits. ​@@jpg6113
@huntersowers7404
@huntersowers7404 3 місяці тому
​@@jpg6113 yep, because listening to Ben Shapiro and destiny for more than 5 minutes didn't already cost me enough brain cells.
@user-iv1bv6kv6x
@user-iv1bv6kv6x 3 місяці тому
​@@jpg6113ew no
@winnablepeach135
@winnablepeach135 3 місяці тому
Debate is not the end game of conversation you think it is. There’s no saving this country
@TadasTadeo
@TadasTadeo 2 місяці тому
The friendliest rap battle I've seen
@letyvasquez2025
@letyvasquez2025 2 місяці тому
Toe to toe Curly and Moe Gonna find a foe Like a Will Dafoe Represent…tation
@aaz1992
@aaz1992 2 місяці тому
😂
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 2 місяці тому
HA 😂😂
@bepsi8700
@bepsi8700 2 місяці тому
bro this literally was hydrogen vs boost translated
@hipunpun
@hipunpun 25 днів тому
1:25:04 something about seeing Ben Shapiro smiling at Destiny's commentary here is quite heartwarming. Really get the impression that both are enjoying the debate.
@hipunpun
@hipunpun 25 днів тому
2:14:40 here too 😂
@artrex5481
@artrex5481 22 дні тому
I definitely think after this they’ll continue to communicate and maybe even build a friendship, they see more eye to eye than I thought they would.
@hipunpun
@hipunpun 20 днів тому
@@artrex5481 I really hope to see more shared content from them as I really enjoyed this debate!
@artrex5481
@artrex5481 20 днів тому
@@hipunpun have you watched the Jordan Peterson one? That one was more fun in my opinion than this one to watch, they get a little fiery at points, but are able to reel it in and in the end the even acknowledged those moments during a topic regarding force vs justice and emotional outburst in interpersonal relationships, very entertaining
@hipunpun
@hipunpun 8 днів тому
Really enjoyed that too! Thanks for the recommend! (Also watched Destiny talk about his Shapiro debate and how they took pics & exchanged contact numbers after.)
@jaredaponte9973
@jaredaponte9973 12 днів тому
This honestly has to be one of my favorite debates for destiny and ben. It felt like two people actually having a conversation rather than the huge spectacle i feel like everyone else is trying to put on usually. Neither of them attacked or insulted the other and i got to just genuinely hear two different perspectives and thats all i want
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 8 днів тому
Thank you, 100%.
@Crimea_River
@Crimea_River 3 місяці тому
This is the longest I've listened to Ben speak without hearing an ad read.
@gmancolo
@gmancolo 3 місяці тому
Benji is a real money grubber and he's promoted outright scams.
@burtbiggum499
@burtbiggum499 3 місяці тому
​@@gmancolo Well yeah just look at his tiny hat
@lunarvania8073
@lunarvania8073 3 місяці тому
Did you make this comment at work? If so I guess you and Ben can relate.
@delightlatte7371
@delightlatte7371 3 місяці тому
Lmao
@juicewilliss
@juicewilliss 3 місяці тому
Quick you can still get these special addition gold coins from the U-S mint. Only with this special offer can you dump all your life savings on this once in a lifetime super-duper for realsies! deal of the century! Hurry before your evil gay loving liberal kids tell you it's a scam cause they hate freedom!!
@wolfgang1667
@wolfgang1667 3 місяці тому
If only presidential debates were this substantive and good faith. This is what America needs.
@SMMC333
@SMMC333 3 місяці тому
imagine what cultural standards would change if this was the case. the bar for knowledge would be so much higher for knowledge. as of now its just a bunch of black and white buzz word cesspool word vomiting online. this type of dialogue needs to be on the main stage.
@connerfreeman9609
@connerfreeman9609 3 місяці тому
They used to be. Watch Kenny vs. Nixon 1960.
@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat 3 місяці тому
America doesn't vote for nerds. The last time we elected a nerd was Nixon.
@callumengland6395
@callumengland6395 3 місяці тому
For real... the presidential debates aren't even debates
@str-AH
@str-AH 3 місяці тому
3000% if you didn't say it, I would have. This is what we should champion.
@happinessisafulltank
@happinessisafulltank Місяць тому
This was an extremely enjoyable debate. I wish there were many more of these.
@issamayyadi4706
@issamayyadi4706 17 днів тому
A debate between a republican traitor who's loyalty is to Israel and the leftist who is paid by Israel to loves Israel. Both are supportive of war crimes in Palestine
@Joyloulou
@Joyloulou 21 день тому
Thank you for this content❤ it is so so necessary to “Keep it in the Conversation”
@williv
@williv Місяць тому
I sincerely thought my playback speed was set to 2x. I had to check.
@ed1pk
@ed1pk Місяць тому
0.75x playback speed works well. 😂
@Shawnathon_gayskin_the_seaman
@Shawnathon_gayskin_the_seaman Місяць тому
Lex actually slowed down the footage in editing
@skeetabomb
@skeetabomb Місяць тому
😆
@doringhaak8392
@doringhaak8392 Місяць тому
Both fast speakers 😂
@Scott-hb4ef
@Scott-hb4ef Місяць тому
Same lol
@grayhamgrayhamson1466
@grayhamgrayhamson1466 2 місяці тому
It’s really a sign of how messed up things are that the majority of comments are people saying how amazing it is that two adults are talking…like adults.
@jamescarbon3853
@jamescarbon3853 2 місяці тому
It's because these two have studied the facts and have formed their own opinions. While the rest of society consume opinions then formulate their facts
@grayhamgrayhamson1466
@grayhamgrayhamson1466 2 місяці тому
@@jamescarbon3853 if you hit reply please reply to what I wrote, otherwise just comment on the video
@sajedchreim7118
@sajedchreim7118 2 місяці тому
@@jamescarbon3853I mean you’re not wrong implying that most people form an opinion then gather facts, but Ben Shapiro is one of them. I agree with him on almost everything, but when it comes to Israel, he time and time again exposes his opinion in the face of facts. To the contrary of facts. For me this was enough to stop following him. There are other people out there with a soul, with a heart, that have the same domestic ideas as him. Ben is a smart man, but that doesn’t make him right all the time. On the Israel Palestine conflict, Ben is over his head and completely misguided and misinformed
@InflatableTube
@InflatableTube 2 місяці тому
We’ve had almost 8 years of polarized echo chambers bursting out like an H bomb. Fomented by people like Trump, like Shapiro’s company, etc..
@onix044
@onix044 2 місяці тому
@@sajedchreim7118misinformed in what way? It’s probably his special interest topic if anything.
@lancelipperman2238
@lancelipperman2238 18 днів тому
Great to finally see a calm, factual debate. Thanks Lex, would love to see another round (different topics)
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 8 днів тому
💯.
@Classicalliberal85
@Classicalliberal85 25 днів тому
one of the most insightul and in-depth political conversations ive seen in a long time
@iannovak5223
@iannovak5223 3 місяці тому
We even got Destiny vs Shapiro debate before GTA 6
@stevenflinn1377
@stevenflinn1377 3 місяці тому
😂😂😂
@NOSTahlgia
@NOSTahlgia 3 місяці тому
Half Life 3
@jpg6113
@jpg6113 3 місяці тому
Have Nick Fuentes on
@jacobvandijk2184
@jacobvandijk2184 3 місяці тому
I thought this was an ad for GTA 6?
@user-ln6tl3rl5p
@user-ln6tl3rl5p 3 місяці тому
its gonna be on the radio in gta 6
@yellomoth
@yellomoth 3 місяці тому
This debate is 2 hours long but if you factor in relative talking speed it's really a six hour debate.
@gabrielmarinho6569
@gabrielmarinho6569 3 місяці тому
👍🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kzryzstof
@kzryzstof 3 місяці тому
You are not wrong.
@instantregret7858
@instantregret7858 3 місяці тому
Hyperbolic Debate Chamber
@AureliusX
@AureliusX 3 місяці тому
true
@Outlawstar0198
@Outlawstar0198 3 місяці тому
​@@instantregret7858hyperbolic lion tamer
@josephinelamkins7661
@josephinelamkins7661 26 днів тому
That’s why conversations on podcast with people like you guys is so important because you get to see and hear both sides without name-calling without getting upset or taking it personally these are the facts this is what’s happening and this is why so thank you so much because I do care and I do wanna know why to everything ❤❤❤❤
@edzelsarao3241
@edzelsarao3241 16 днів тому
I'd call this more of a conversation versus a debate. Debate to me usually means when one or both people don't respect each other. That said, this is a great example of how differences should always be handled and communicated.
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 8 днів тому
💯.
@bentyryan
@bentyryan 3 місяці тому
This must be the world record for most words-per-minute in a podcast. It's closer to a rap battle than a debate
@claywrangler1993
@claywrangler1993 3 місяці тому
2 grifters debating. I'm Jewish by birth and first settler on the other side, but i don't grift politically so my opinion doesn't matter
@bpharaoh8765
@bpharaoh8765 3 місяці тому
They are both fast talkers, I have no idea who the second dude is but he holds his own regardless of how dumb his thought process is! I love hearing intelligent arguments regardless of what side the come from!
@bpharaoh8765
@bpharaoh8765 3 місяці тому
@@claywrangler1993so you are a grifter by birth or persuasion? Either way you are an idiot? Agree or don’t agree with what either, or are saying, you can classify anyone with an opinion that utilizes that opinion to make money as a grifter, but that fact alone does not marginalize that opinion
@nocommentingplease
@nocommentingplease 3 місяці тому
​@@bpharaoh8765 who is the one you know then?
@habibbialikafe339
@habibbialikafe339 3 місяці тому
I listened to this on spotify and slowed the speed down to 0.8x. Highly advise everyone else to do the same.
@seff2451
@seff2451 3 місяці тому
i can't explain how refreshing it is to listen to a debate where when one person is speaking, not a single word comes out of the other one until their name is called and their opponent is finished. they just silently sit and write down points to rehash on when it's their turn but there's no interrupting, or like back and forth yelling or emotions. seriously so god damn refreshing
@SherwinChow-cg3nw
@SherwinChow-cg3nw 3 місяці тому
Fortunately Shapiro isn’t formulating foreign policies. He has the audacity to condemn the Houties and support the U.S. & British bombings thus espousing ultra right wing political ideology.
@thenecroking6170
@thenecroking6170 3 місяці тому
now lets look at the hasan card
@saoirse_mavourneen
@saoirse_mavourneen 3 місяці тому
Yes, very nice to see, you actually get to hear every point.
@Noise_floorxx
@Noise_floorxx 3 місяці тому
Did you actually watch the entire thing?
@blunderman73dicks37
@blunderman73dicks37 3 місяці тому
idk ben kept interrupting especially later on
@downhour1
@downhour1 20 днів тому
I have greatly enjoyed this conversation. It is so refreshingly nice to listen to 2 Intelligent individuals from conflicting viewpoints have a civil conversation about politics. Thank you very much for doing this.And using your time.
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 8 днів тому
💯.
@UnbelievableCOD
@UnbelievableCOD 18 днів тому
Amazing. Thank you for giving us this, Lex! It’s a breath of fresh air.
@joseprprprpr
@joseprprprpr 3 місяці тому
Please bring them back for a part 2. The format was perfect.
@ds7335
@ds7335 3 місяці тому
Agree
@skoobuh
@skoobuh 3 місяці тому
Please don’t show these idiots again absolutely baffling 😂
@kevinhoang9074
@kevinhoang9074 3 місяці тому
It should be Ben and someone else from the left like Kyle Kulinski
@MrMortombachman
@MrMortombachman 3 місяці тому
Ben would completely destroy Kyle. Longtime listener, but he's lost his touch
@saumitrad
@saumitrad 3 місяці тому
@@kevinhoang9074 That would be a blood bath. Ben would demolish Kyle. In the liberal - left - atheist - antTrump side there are only two people who can compete with Ben - Destiny & Sam Harris. The list is Finite.
@tamih.9043
@tamih.9043 2 місяці тому
I love how both let the other talk without interrupting!
@Mrs_Mama_MFT
@Mrs_Mama_MFT 2 місяці тому
I was shocked by this. Did you see the debate between Destiny and Glen Greenwood? 🤦🏻‍♀️
@tonyascancook
@tonyascancook 2 місяці тому
Destiny interrupted frequently
@hochmeisterr
@hochmeisterr 2 місяці тому
Because both are dealing in good faith and Factual information.
@jaymay7957
@jaymay7957 2 місяці тому
Yeah that’s what happens when you do in person debates haha
@550n440
@550n440 2 місяці тому
I wish this was the top comment. Respectful discourse is no longer the norm, and what we now normally see is disgusting.
@goncalobaia1574
@goncalobaia1574 11 днів тому
Hum... Could you guys repeat please? Like, everything from the beginning? And in 1/5 speed?
@user-kg1vk9jg6q
@user-kg1vk9jg6q 10 днів тому
This is the way to come together and be a united country again, a cordial conversation.
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 8 днів тому
Yes!!! ❤️ 100%.
@jessegallagher3952
@jessegallagher3952 3 місяці тому
Finally, a conversation at a natural 1.5x speed without having to adjust settings!
@claudetteguimond8035
@claudetteguimond8035 3 місяці тому
I missed a few words myself.
@zonehd3433
@zonehd3433 3 місяці тому
Am I so mentally ill that I can watch this on 2x speed?
@shmeepurt
@shmeepurt 3 місяці тому
@@zonehd3433that’s gotta be brainrot
@samlane9732
@samlane9732 3 місяці тому
​@zonehd3433 I put it on 2x to see what it sounded like... it reminded me of the dude that used to name all the side effects at the end of prescription commercials back in the day lol
@obnoxiaaeristokles3872
@obnoxiaaeristokles3872 3 місяці тому
@@zonehd3433 No, I don't know what they all are about. I'm watching at 2x myself
@tokyosour4215
@tokyosour4215 3 місяці тому
I've been waiting for these two to have a sitdown forever. 4 hours of debate in 2 hours.
@pbjam2182
@pbjam2182 3 місяці тому
If you play it at half speed, the video almost sounds like a regular conversation
@Cimmerian415
@Cimmerian415 3 місяці тому
​@@pbjam2182 .075x is a good listening speed.
@patrickmcphee770
@patrickmcphee770 3 місяці тому
You must love dumb!
@Seamannon
@Seamannon 3 місяці тому
@@pbjam2182 That's the magic of UKposts - you can adjust the speed to your own liking and comfort, no matter how slow or fast the podcasters talk irl. It's incredible! Sometimes I wish I could speed up videos more than x2, but certainly not in case of this particular conversation.
@c.l.368
@c.l.368 3 місяці тому
@@Seamannon the thing that sucks about it is you can't speed people's speech up IN REAL LIFE. I've gotten so used to listening to podcasts at 1.5x - 2.0x that now listening to people at their normal speeds is actually harder for me.
@chriswhite-vb5ts
@chriswhite-vb5ts День тому
So I enjoyed this-seems like an actual debate between a couple of guys on different sides of the fence from the 1950’s- respectful, curious, and still friendly- no freaking out, screaming, fighting, shooting each other-
@karenmoore5620
@karenmoore5620 25 днів тому
I had to slow this down to 0.75 to be able to keep up with them lol😂.
@Uncookednote
@Uncookednote 3 місяці тому
Imagine if this was the type of discussion we had in Congress. Our country would be so much better.
@dangbruhskyy
@dangbruhskyy 3 місяці тому
Isnt it amazing that this discussion is free? They have real jobs. The time and money wasted in u.s government constant tug of war is just wild
@Queefer8Sutherland
@Queefer8Sutherland 3 місяці тому
Regardless of Biden or trump, you have two people who understand. We could never hope for so much in any country.
@tnndll4294
@tnndll4294 3 місяці тому
yes. left and right thinkers alike. and I personally would rather see them on the same debate team. Defending Israel for example.
@x4mon7
@x4mon7 3 місяці тому
@@tnndll4294 lets be honest they are on the same team.
@zaq9339
@zaq9339 3 місяці тому
People in Congress can't have this type of discussions because they represent interests they can't openly admit to. This is why most people think politicians are idiots who don't make much sense. They do if you consider it's a balancing act between saving face in front of voters and pleasing their masters, whoever they are. Otherwise politicians are pretty smart. We just don't see it.
@s3fron
@s3fron 3 місяці тому
The fact that Lex still only mentions the sponsers in the description, instead of clogging up the actual video just further enforces how real he is. He could be making thousands per month, instead he chooses to provide the purest experience. Legend.
@handidles
@handidles 3 місяці тому
He could be making thousands per month 😂😂 wdym, he is making thousand per month
@Kakakakakakakakakakakaka684
@Kakakakakakakakakakakaka684 3 місяці тому
@@hiddxnlxavxs3968man shut up bro
@TheK9music
@TheK9music 3 місяці тому
Making thousands per month 😂 Dude he makes thousands per couple days if not every day
@psionicdongpunch
@psionicdongpunch 3 місяці тому
Hadn't even noticed that, but massive +1
@frankvonfrauner
@frankvonfrauner 3 місяці тому
It enforces that he's financially comfortable
@txterbug
@txterbug 18 днів тому
I got two bags of groceries today for $50. Grapes are $4/pound.
@gorgart6984
@gorgart6984 11 днів тому
You should try getting married apparently it fixes everything
@ReinFN
@ReinFN 9 днів тому
@@gorgart6984 idk who told u that lil budy
@FigsNLifts
@FigsNLifts 9 днів тому
I consider myself left wing but as an Irishman, what Ben said at 39.09 regarding European Taxation is 100% true. The middle class are taxed to death in this country to the point we have brought about the working poor. I’m not necessarily in favour of the US system, but our taxation laws are fucked
@TheBeefPudding
@TheBeefPudding 3 місяці тому
This should've been like 4-5 hours tbh. Feels like they could cover so much more ground. What a pleasure to listen to both being well mannered and considerate
@Zeesneakyninja
@Zeesneakyninja 3 місяці тому
They need to start a series
@lybnychavez6953
@lybnychavez6953 3 місяці тому
Lex said it’s part 1 didn’t he
@TheAutoexecbat
@TheAutoexecbat 3 місяці тому
they both speak fast enough that it was
@Neworldisordered
@Neworldisordered 3 місяці тому
5 hours and continue taping while they have pizza/beer together.
@TheBeefPudding
@TheBeefPudding 3 місяці тому
@@lybnychavez6953 yeah but who knows when they will actually reconvene. Could be over a year even more. I'd love a bit meaty part 1 to tide me over. Hell I'd tune in weekly for a series lol
@jefferyhellerjh
@jefferyhellerjh 3 місяці тому
What would it take to make this a weekly podcast? Maybe a 10-part series? This was the most respectful disagreement I’ve ever witnessed and the world needs to see much more of this!
@johneaston8314
@johneaston8314 3 місяці тому
I honestly didn’t see the appeal. It was just Ben walking destiny around the track for 2 hours
@diddlefiggins6557
@diddlefiggins6557 3 місяці тому
@@johneaston8314Wrong
@davidhoffman2311
@davidhoffman2311 3 місяці тому
@@johneaston8314 How do you even come to this conclusion? Bro, how do you even see reality in such a way to allow you to come to such a conclusion? I’m willing to bet you watched 10 minutes before going into comments and just assuming everything based on the fact that you aren’t able to pay attention long enough to realize this was a back and fourth style of debate.
@TC-jo2vj
@TC-jo2vj 3 місяці тому
All 3 should be laughed out of polite society.
@johneaston8314
@johneaston8314 3 місяці тому
@@davidhoffman2311 insulting me rather than addressing what I said.. you didn’t get that from the video. What argument or position in this entire “debate” did destiny win on?
@reasonablevegan
@reasonablevegan Місяць тому
Great talk! I hope part two will involve a lot less foreign policy, just my personal preference at this talk. Thanks for the great content Lex!
@phoenixmistertwo8815
@phoenixmistertwo8815 27 днів тому
They are both fast speaker...Thought I had it sped up for a minute there.
@jjrap3
@jjrap3 3 місяці тому
This was a debate where both parties looked like they were having fun. Incredible thing to watch.
@LLG47
@LLG47 3 місяці тому
I also think that despite their differences they actually respect and like one another.
@NWBwana
@NWBwana 3 місяці тому
It was actually a healthy debate and disagreement. As observers we didn't witness petulant smears, but an exchange of views and informations such as we now should have a better understanding not just of the topic but of the predominant views represented by these "sides". Its stuff like this that makes diversity a strength.
@wanderingwobb6300
@wanderingwobb6300 3 місяці тому
Hoping for more destiny Shapiro content in the future but who knows
@Hoberpopkin
@Hoberpopkin 3 місяці тому
It's a little uncanny and a bit concerning that when previewing comments before I dive into the video, almost every comment is gushing about how wonderful it is that the conversation is civil. While I understand and sympathize with the overwhelming desire to have grounded conversations considering the state of public discourse...everywhere, this is a 2.5 hour video and the top comments are priming me to expect that very little of substance will be in the video itself because all the comments are ONLY about how civil the conversation was. Normally in videos, comments are filled with people zoning in on specific topics that get mentioned, discussing the specifics of what one person or another has said and either picking it apart or responding to it by adding further clarifying details. When I sorted comments by new, things were a lot more specific and came across a lot less...performative/masturbatory, which made me more excited for the video. But the whole thing does scratch at a suspicion I've had for a while now that because our public platforms for discourse is so awful, some people conflate more heated discussions with bad faith discussions because people tend to get angry and heated when their opponents argue in bad faith. And depending on who you agree with, you won't notice the bad faith habits of your ideological ally in the debate but will notice all the bad faith arguments of your ideological opponent, which is why most modern debates are associated with performative rage-bait and polarizing audiences into even smaller echo chambers. Throw in the fact that one side or another might start screaming back in bad faith defensively because the other side started it first, the whole thing turns into a mess really quickly. But good faith heated debates also happen, especially when serious topics are discussed. In fact, if people aren't getting a little heated in discussions about really serious topics, it's kind of a red flag indicating the possibility that the aesthetics of civility is more important than the lives affected by the politics being discussed. You run into a similar echo chamber problem running into reverse--whereas bloodsport debates are useless because nothing gets done, with the target audience being people addicted to rage, a debate running purely on civility politics becomes useless because both sides go out of their way to not challenge their opponents, to avoid controversial topics, etc etc. Anyone who cares about the subjects at hand usually end up not being the target audience--and the people who enjoy the debates are people who see politics as a game rather than a force controlling the lives of millions, often threatening their ability to survive. I'm honestly a bit pessimistic about how this video will turn out. I hope very much I'll be proven very wrong and feel very silly by the end of it.
@soxfan5240
@soxfan5240 3 місяці тому
@@Hoberpopkin That was entirely too much to write before ever watching the fucking video. Jesus, STFU and watch it. It's Destiny and Ben Shapiro, if you think they won't have passion just because people said they liked the discourse, you don't know these two..... They live for this shit.
@TheTataxx
@TheTataxx 3 місяці тому
I'm not saying that these two should do a weekly discussion, but I'd totally watch if they did.
@saraarlavi4217
@saraarlavi4217 3 місяці тому
Maybe not weekly, but I'd totally go for monthly.
@yessir7004
@yessir7004 3 місяці тому
Need to add Alex Jones and I'd tune in for sure
@saraarlavi4217
@saraarlavi4217 3 місяці тому
@@egroendyk What passes for good for you then just curious?
@pablowall
@pablowall 3 місяці тому
​@@egroendykhey buddy, hope you're doing well, just wanted to tell you to shut up. Adding nothing useful and you're wrong
@AnorexicPandas
@AnorexicPandas 3 місяці тому
They should have a podcast
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 8 днів тому
This video was absolutely FANTASTIC!!. I loved every single second of this debate. BOTH of them were amazing, and it made my day. Very impressed. Thank you, Lex!!
@adonaicolon2136
@adonaicolon2136 18 днів тому
Great content. More in common than you would think.
@GrahamStephan
@GrahamStephan 3 місяці тому
I'm so glad this is finally happening! Excited to watch!
@ageofhypocrisee
@ageofhypocrisee 3 місяці тому
Did you smash the like button?
@raphg6319
@raphg6319 3 місяці тому
@@ageofhypocrisee I think someone has smashed Destiny's wife during that podcast
@Jangel3995
@Jangel3995 3 місяці тому
@@ageofhypocrisee🤣
@TheMic13
@TheMic13 3 місяці тому
manifest destiny
@Deleteyourself83
@Deleteyourself83 3 місяці тому
Smashed destiny's wife@@ageofhypocrisee
@peepoboi7869
@peepoboi7869 3 місяці тому
This debate is how I imagine it would look like if the embodiment of Adderall debated the embodiment of Caffeine
@SuperJoshuaWorld64
@SuperJoshuaWorld64 3 місяці тому
I'd say more like meth vs cocaine
@joeyg29jgjg
@joeyg29jgjg 3 місяці тому
Wait which ones which?
@jacobwinburn6307
@jacobwinburn6307 3 місяці тому
Someone needs to check for some Guinness Book record for meaningless words said in an hour or something
@dnbjedi
@dnbjedi 3 місяці тому
LOLLLLLLL FACTS
@legoboy7107
@legoboy7107 3 місяці тому
@@joeyg29jgjg Yes.
@catherineshaffer7130
@catherineshaffer7130 27 днів тому
Very good conversation! 🙌❤️
@Kanaigitahoya
@Kanaigitahoya 25 днів тому
Idk how many times I had to check if it was 1.5 or normal speed.
@imbigwes
@imbigwes 3 місяці тому
This was so much better than I was expecting. Both of them are known to be fiery but damn this actually felt like a meeting of minds. LOVE when debaters aren't screaming!
@user-vd5ko4ob6y
@user-vd5ko4ob6y 3 місяці тому
ukposts.info/have/v-deo/qXuom52famyhzoU.html
@ThaDonJsuan
@ThaDonJsuan 3 місяці тому
Ben vs destiny was as if ben read the whole article and destiny just read the headline. He just didnt know the details on anything.
@Azrael1486
@Azrael1486 3 місяці тому
​@@ThaDonJsuanthank you for noticing that. Props to Destiny for being civil, but to anybody capable of following their points. Destiny would make a superficial statement that sounded good.... Until Ben dismantled it point by point with in depth facts
@kosmokramer5420
@kosmokramer5420 3 місяці тому
They are two sides of the same coin They are both ultra liberal
@bluhminonion
@bluhminonion 3 місяці тому
I think anyone that thought going in to this that there'd be anything other than well reasoned arguments and respectful dialogue hasn't watched very much of their content.
@JensAWorkInProgress
@JensAWorkInProgress 3 місяці тому
Debates without insults are the best
@richardhands904
@richardhands904 3 місяці тому
Although i loved this, the odd one where people are at each other throat is enjoyable as well.
@locochang6533
@locochang6533 3 місяці тому
I prefer the insults.
@AlbinoWhiteGuy
@AlbinoWhiteGuy 3 місяці тому
@@richardhands904Having a mix is definitely good.
@MrImagin
@MrImagin 3 місяці тому
no insults?!? Ben called Destiny a Republican in the fist minute!! haha
@Patrick33194
@Patrick33194 3 місяці тому
Except if Alex Jones or Trump are participating
@micahanderson1982
@micahanderson1982 25 днів тому
This was a fantastic discussion. The world needs so much more of this. Talking and keeping human connection in the face of different views and values is vital to society.
@dennisgreen7489
@dennisgreen7489 22 дні тому
U can see these two men have great respect for each other
@han1218
@han1218 14 днів тому
Destiny didn't have that much respect for Jordan Peterson, who thinks more before talking. Ben is closer in style with Destiny, both fast talkers.
@Tameisha101
@Tameisha101 3 місяці тому
Its such a breath of fresh air to leave a debate and NOT be either frustrated, annoyed, or left learning absolutely nothing . You guys did a great job. Very respectful.
@servanttofriend8481
@servanttofriend8481 3 місяці тому
Thanks for your comment, we deposited your shekels in your account. Sincerely, Dem boys.
@zipzzo
@zipzzo 3 місяці тому
Nice! Did you change your mind about any of the topics discussed or did you find despite convincing arguments and it being a "breath of fresh air" that you still believe in exactly the same things you did prior to the video?
@metaljacket8128
@metaljacket8128 3 місяці тому
Indeed!
@metaljacket8128
@metaljacket8128 3 місяці тому
​@zipzzo Could you possibly have worded that more passive-aggressively lmao
@salvest3rr
@salvest3rr 3 місяці тому
lmaooo not possible but i am interested in the answer @@metaljacket8128
@Aknight292
@Aknight292 3 місяці тому
I enjoy this type of debate. No screaming over each other. Just a conversation where the content is more important than the show
@admill77
@admill77 3 місяці тому
It’s respectful conversation from both sides. It’s obvious that they both feel strongly about their opinions but are able to create space to prevent tension from boiling over. This was a really great and interesting listen!
@youssefdirani
@youssefdirani 3 місяці тому
I believe we should call for a referendum made by true original land owners (Palestineans, including native Palestinean jews) and they decide the state they want. Simple. Very simple. It's not a thousands of years matter. Zionism is danger and should not be adopted by a state.
@megeramilosskaya1
@megeramilosskaya1 3 місяці тому
@@youssefdiraniwhat’s so dangerous about it?
@stonetemplepilot420
@stonetemplepilot420 3 місяці тому
God I hate these comments and I remembered why because there's no actual substance in them. I'm looking through these comments for what one person said and it's COMPLETELY OVERSHADOWED by "oMg what a healthy conversation!" I don't care! Yes, these are two people who realize civility looks good, now can we talk about what was said?!
@zaneboettcher6257
@zaneboettcher6257 3 місяці тому
I think the biggest part that also drives this debate is that they find common ground, and see where their similarities in idea are. It’s important to separate facts and common ground from opinions to keep the debate healthy. It’s about the ideas they believe, and not the person themselves. Honestly, we need more of this in everyday life and universities. It’s important to band together as US citizens, voice our concerns, but also find common ground to make sure everyone can prosper.
@eye-Am-Me
@eye-Am-Me 24 дні тому
I was about to slow down the speed to normal and then realized it was already in normal 🤣
@monkeymott
@monkeymott Місяць тому
Only thing i would have done differently is, had a round table. i love a great debate.
@Bananapuddin86
@Bananapuddin86 3 місяці тому
Actually getting to watch 2 people finish their topics with neither of them interrupting each other? WTF IS THIS? Love when people can actually get their full point across without getting interrupted. It makes for a good debate.
@calvinhobbes5524
@calvinhobbes5524 3 місяці тому
Thinking Ben Shapiro has a point lol.
@emperortrajan3609
@emperortrajan3609 3 місяці тому
What are you talking about, Destiny wouldn't shut the fck up when Ben tried to answer questions, especially about foreign policy. Kept saying "one more question" or "one last time" and kept trying to deflect the conversation on what VERY little Biden did. Very annoying.
@gbake6080
@gbake6080 3 місяці тому
@@calvinhobbes5524 cope
@itsonlyagame
@itsonlyagame 3 місяці тому
to be fair they are both agreeing on a lot of things so ig the mutual respects comes from it Ben has a persona to protect and maintain while Steven likes to do a lot of research not only about the topics but the person he is going to debate with. you wont see Ben going beast mode yelling at people unless you watching tiktok "destroy" complications of rare occasions where ig he some sort of been rude back to someone else who was definitely rude. sure I wish every debate would go peacefully but you cant deny that if you are not already well known on media having heated debates can and will bring more views
@TLEberle
@TLEberle 3 місяці тому
Disagree. Destiny was constantly interrupting with vocalizations. He wasn't butting in with disagreements but it's not the same is not interrupting.
@BuricIvan
@BuricIvan 3 місяці тому
9 hours of debate compressed into 2 and a half hour video. Thank you!!
@TerryFD721
@TerryFD721 3 місяці тому
Underrated comment
@NitishRhae
@NitishRhae 3 місяці тому
Good one 😂
@11arkasha11
@11arkasha11 3 місяці тому
that is just cuz hey speak at warp speed LOL
@chunkykong1976
@chunkykong1976 3 місяці тому
@@11arkasha11exactly
@haruhirogrimgar6047
@haruhirogrimgar6047 3 місяці тому
​@@11arkasha11 Meh, they were pretty slow here. Needed to kick it to 1.5x speed to get them to normal.
@tomaszluczynski6823
@tomaszluczynski6823 13 днів тому
i recommend 0.75 play speed. it is actually more natural speed to listen to them
@champ8605
@champ8605 3 місяці тому
Ben finally having a conversation with someone who speaks as fast as he does.
@googleisevil8958
@googleisevil8958 3 місяці тому
Can anyone else keep up though? I feel if the two talk any faster they'll punch a hole in the space/time continuum.
@ThePurpleButterfly21-ie7ve
@ThePurpleButterfly21-ie7ve 3 місяці тому
Ben's faster... just saying.
@SH2-136
@SH2-136 3 місяці тому
​@googleisevil8958 I enjoy when people talk fast, I usually speed up to 1.25x on videos but these two I have no need lmao
@megamax898
@megamax898 3 місяці тому
Two turbo manlets.
@Lizards_Lounge
@Lizards_Lounge 3 місяці тому
actually...in this case i thought they were noticably slower...
@TonyB369
@TonyB369 3 місяці тому
This was probably my favorite debate I’ve listened to in a while. Both were very respectful, made solid arguments on either side, pretty much no interruptions or speaking over each other, and everything flowed well.
@p0tatobiden250
@p0tatobiden250 3 місяці тому
Trump knows how he lost is the problem!!
@GeopoliticsDaily538
@GeopoliticsDaily538 3 місяці тому
They’re both vile Zionists, this is barely a decade.
@trickmuffinful
@trickmuffinful 3 місяці тому
​@p0tatobiden250 good boy. You listen so well. Now vote for who we tell to vote for.
@markcrnkovich
@markcrnkovich 3 місяці тому
Why?
@TonyB369
@TonyB369 3 місяці тому
@@markcrnkovich ?
@ericfarris5850
@ericfarris5850 7 днів тому
I'm diggin Lex. Keep it up my man!
@mrfathead666
@mrfathead666 7 днів тому
I need 10 more of these.
@timparks9833
@timparks9833 2 місяці тому
I love that the moderation was only there to ask questions, and these two allowed each other to make their points. Can you imagine if this was the standard for a presidential debate? We might be able to actually have an informed vote.
@keegansillaots4327
@keegansillaots4327 2 місяці тому
Lex is the man!
@firepuppies4086
@firepuppies4086 2 місяці тому
Oh it should be... But the people in the debate can be the issue
@petroboomn7491
@petroboomn7491 2 місяці тому
Not likely to happen cuz these 3 men are very intelligent, articulate, and respectful individuals. I'm not saying they are saints or care particularly about every person, but these guys are relatively fair level headed and real. The personalities that usually succeed in US politics today are sensationalist demagogues who function on mob mentality and will say whatever they have to WIN PEROID.
@TheBryanyingst
@TheBryanyingst 2 місяці тому
A Russian Jew, Zionist, and Liberal Jew walk into a bar. Everyone boos. Go home - nobody wants your propaganda anymore.
@tomgeoghegan9173
@tomgeoghegan9173 2 місяці тому
@@keegansillaots4327 Non stop yammering.
@zwenz365
@zwenz365 3 місяці тому
I love how they're both very respectful and take the time to listen to each other's arguments. All while coming up with a well though-out rebuttal without attacking the individual. Kudos to both
@habibbialikafe339
@habibbialikafe339 3 місяці тому
best debate I've listened to
@poodie3887
@poodie3887 3 місяці тому
Kudos for being a grown man having a respectful conversation? The world is doomed we gotta praise the bare minimum, it’s the equivalent to a woman saying she’s independent
@know1827
@know1827 3 місяці тому
It was kind of mind numbing. The whole thing was Ben saying what he thought, destiny saying he doesn't agree, then Ben rebutting, then destiny saying he agrees 100% with Ben... Butttttt
@dagnykaye1489
@dagnykaye1489 3 місяці тому
​@@poodie3887 bad morning?
@gintoki_sakata__
@gintoki_sakata__ 3 місяці тому
​@@poodie3887are you okay
@shadowpoet4398
@shadowpoet4398 День тому
1:00 You look like Cooper Howard from Fallout speaking for Vault-Tec
@anacandapro4618
@anacandapro4618 24 дні тому
It's unbelievable how much was said in like 20 minutes that my brain hurts from comprending it all. This is the most interesting conversation ever.
@visual_sanctum
@visual_sanctum 3 місяці тому
Man, I wish this could have been 5 hours long. Loved listening to all of this. Please bring them both back soon!
@RustCole01
@RustCole01 3 місяці тому
It was 5 hrs.... they just both speak at 2.5 times speed
@adriangrimm3826
@adriangrimm3826 3 місяці тому
@@RustCole01Fuck! I clicked this comment just to say this.
@CasuallyAuthentic
@CasuallyAuthentic 3 місяці тому
I stopped listening at 2 hours. One of the most useless debates. Yes they are both highly opinionated and very educated on what they are opinionated 6 what a waste of such inelligence. Such surface level conversations. Why are people still debating about and defending evils of any kind. Let's move past the lesser of two evils. There are far more important conversations going on like the evolveing of mind and spirit. People are actually having deeper conversations about how the next 2k years are going to pan out and these two are worried about the past.
@killtheo8894
@killtheo8894 3 місяці тому
@@CasuallyAuthenticThis is such a childish view on what makes a deeper conversation. They discussed their own philosophies, how to they view education(which effects the next generation) their analysis of the last two presidential terms which are going to have impacts for years to come not to mention this years election, Their views on two wars which affect millions if not billions of people, about institutions in America and how they view the future of human relationships. While there are many more topics to discuss and each of these topics they could both go into more depth on to say this was surface level compared to some nonsensical view on a future we could never predict is insane
@CasuallyAuthentic
@CasuallyAuthentic 3 місяці тому
@killtheo8894 as I said, very surface level. And your statements only backs that up. I understand that you don't agree, we all have different levels of intellect. Sorry to have offended you to make you ironically call me childish. I think we're beyond being offended and offending because of different opinions. It no longer serves us. I personally just want some intellects with platforms to have deeper conversations, but then again, maybe they are just stuck in the old way too. By the way, you never did say why my opinion was childish...
@zackbop9045
@zackbop9045 3 місяці тому
This is low-key how presidential debates should be throughout the entire four years before election
@braincell4536
@braincell4536 3 місяці тому
these people should run for president. but the broader political system would crush them.
@Dr.Jekyll_
@Dr.Jekyll_ 3 місяці тому
Joe would fall asleep 10 minutes in, lol🤣
@DropIt56
@DropIt56 3 місяці тому
You want an incumbent president to waste their term having debates like this instead of running the country?
@Nikolaki514
@Nikolaki514 3 місяці тому
If only presidential candidates were as cordial and respectful as Ben and Destiny. Sadly most people who seek political office are power hungry and not decent people.
@Grits-N-Gravy
@Grits-N-Gravy 3 місяці тому
What does the term low-key mean? Did it replace “true” as the next generation’s nonsensical overused catchy sounding word?
@rpaulpen
@rpaulpen 21 день тому
Enjoyed it but had to play it at .75 speed. 😂
@ivanvillafane3702
@ivanvillafane3702 13 днів тому
No your playback speed is not set to 2x. This is actually how fast they talk 😂
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 8 днів тому
😃 yep.
@AfterSkool
@AfterSkool 3 місяці тому
We don't have to agree, but we can respect each other.
@theemperor4901
@theemperor4901 3 місяці тому
love to see one my favorite channels here
@d4mterro320
@d4mterro320 3 місяці тому
We respect eachother, but you dont use logic, so we ll dismiss u justifiably
@alihamdon6644
@alihamdon6644 3 місяці тому
@@d4mterro320what does this even mean?
@LuchP91
@LuchP91 3 місяці тому
One of the greatest channels on YT. Thanks for everything you do ❤
@RebelGorilla7384
@RebelGorilla7384 3 місяці тому
Not if you advocate violence
@countbaldwin
@countbaldwin 3 місяці тому
Finally a conversation between people from across the political aisle without constant interrupting and name calling and cheap insults, just comparing each other's ideas and trying to see where the other stands in relation to them. These kinds of conversations is what we need in an increasingly divisive world instagated by social media. It's certainly way more constructive than the 10,000th "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS leftie college student" debate about the culture war.
@ryangordon8147
@ryangordon8147 3 місяці тому
I had some buddies tell me it was boring and I laughed. This is how the conversation should look, if you want children arguing then watch actual politians. LOL @countbaldwin - Great comment!
@hellowill
@hellowill 3 місяці тому
I wouldn't call Destiny a far leftist
@yGKeKe
@yGKeKe 3 місяці тому
I mean, you could label this one as "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS leftie cuckold" and it would still be accurate. Destiny spent at least 30 minutes whining about a merry go round when he was the one driving the carousel.
@RicardoRangel-ll7dp
@RicardoRangel-ll7dp 3 місяці тому
Destiny didn't do any better except maybe studied before the debate since it was a predetermined debate. Ben destroyed him on on debates that had to do with western society since he has facts on his side. geo politics is wanky since it includes foreign countries who do not have same laws as us. American politics destiny just crying trump is bad orange man. This debate was just Ben explaining how everything works to destiny.
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 3 місяці тому
​@RicardoRangel-ll7dp I agree to a large extent, I'm just really tired of the word "destroyed." I also appreciated the honestly and civility.
@user-ds2rd2oq1r
@user-ds2rd2oq1r 22 дні тому
I thought they were very professional and respectful towards one another
@stevenamtower8336
@stevenamtower8336 29 днів тому
This was great!! Thanks!!!
@calesmith5777
@calesmith5777 2 місяці тому
Deep and respectful conversations like this are exactly what our country needs at this time. What a breath of fresh air when measured against mainstream news segments.
@ianhoyle6132
@ianhoyle6132 2 місяці тому
I live in England and this extreme polarisation to the point where you're expected to dehumanise and hate with a vengeance people with a different point of view, MSM along with social media has fueled that mentality and it's happened here and in other western countries Canada, Australia and it came from the left leaning media, I'm Gen X voted Labour left wing till they started with the extremist must hate anyone with a different political opinion, plus the BBC and Sky News tell out right lies, I can't believe to get get half the truth I've had to turn to right-wing Conservative news outlets, the BBC as been very antisemitic and anyone that voted Brexit,( I would have voted leave if hadn't been in prison at the time) the BBC literally did everything they could and Labour to overturn the result and the BBC are meant to be neutral because their publicly funded and they pushed the all Brexiteers are racist and stupid, but the EU have had terrible policy for the UK the freedom of movement meant all the people in poor EU countries just headed to Britain for benefits and take advantage of healthcare family benefits and like the illegal migrants they abuse the system and instead of trying for asylum in the first country they head to the UK because were soft, just had an Afghan refused refugee status twice and after exposing himself and sexual assault, got a vicar to claim he'dbecome Christian and he's done a chemical attackon a woman, the leftwing has been taken over by Islamists, Destiny seems to be able to listen and see the useful idiots backing Hamas and Islamic extremism, it does make a change to hear a respectful disagreement, I was not a fan of Trump but he was much better for America, Biden is a straight crook, Putin isn't a nice bloke but Ukraine is a corrupt puppet government American foreign policy in Ukraine and keeping Russia as the boggy man instead of working to get the Russian to feel part of the west after the end of the cold war hasn't been a great idea and UK is just the same, now in the middle East the two western countries involved is the US UK, but you'll never change Islamists they're indoctrinated into the death cult, Iran is trouble and it's true what Sharpio with Iran there's no talking to the religious crazies, it was Britain and the US made Iran what it is today, women used to walk around in bikinis, the left has taken an extreme Islamist view, but Destiny has looked at the problems and gets the Israelis can't not get rid of Hamas and it's not just the leadership of Palestine the people have been indoctrinated to hate Jews, they have a kids TV programme a mouse Farfour telling small children to hate Jews and they both know the problems, agree on some ways to deal with it, if Destiny watched a few UKposts channels, people in Gaza blame Jews not the government for their problems and not Hamas, year's of indoctrination, Sharpio is right about Trump wasn't insurrection the Democrats weaponising the DOJ to try stop him from running, both described as poles apart but they seemed to agree on a hell of a lot more than they disagree, I think for them to do this on a regular basis maybe do a podcast together and show that two guys with differences can sit in a room and I think they could be genuine freinds unless I miss read that debate they both seemed to enjoy it and those laughs and smiles seemed real and watching them might make people take a look at their cultist views and one day start go for a beer and speak to that family member they disowned over voting differently. The only thing was Destiny thinking he could be a third term POTUS was a touch of TDS, if we keep this polarised attitude towards each other the country won't heal, the woke junk white privilege is BS needs dropping, here in the UK it's white working class boys doing worst in schools. This is what people need to see even when they disagreed they found some common ground.
@BK-hq7tn
@BK-hq7tn 2 місяці тому
You and many others are misled. "The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum"
@dramatriangle
@dramatriangle 2 місяці тому
@@BK-hq7tnagreed.
@Macheako
@Macheako 2 місяці тому
@@BK-hq7tn with all due respect…just sounds like our leaders already got us obedient 😂❤
@billymadison8574
@billymadison8574 2 місяці тому
​@@BK-hq7tn What are some unacceptable opinions u perceive as being limited?
@JackGrin
@JackGrin 3 місяці тому
This is how political debates should happen. There was agreement on basic facts and respect amongst the two and no constant interruptions.
@AYAmusicish
@AYAmusicish 3 місяці тому
That would be great but I don't think our two current front-runners for each party would be able to keep up unfortunately. Probably some younger candidates would be a good idea
@henryjumbohead5391
@henryjumbohead5391 3 місяці тому
@@AYAmusicish true. And that’s at a detriment to us all.
@keengkai8175
@keengkai8175 3 місяці тому
political debates have a different goal. Agreement and respect are not it.
@strangetimez
@strangetimez 3 місяці тому
​@@keengkai8175this is so true
@jefferyhellerjh
@jefferyhellerjh 3 місяці тому
@@keengkai8175That’s exactly what should change
@paulkemp7035
@paulkemp7035 16 днів тому
As someone who has a somewhat phobic reaction to debates, I found this presentation to be quite enjoyable and educational. Thanks Lex and all your team.
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 8 днів тому
💯.
@high.tened_sense5966
@high.tened_sense5966 23 дні тому
Lex proves literally anyone can do podcasts interviews
@hexxin
@hexxin 3 місяці тому
I'm so glad this finally happened. I also believe they tried to understand each other. Very respectable of both participants.
@stevey187
@stevey187 3 місяці тому
We need parts 2 through 10. This is the best thing I've watched on UKposts... maybe ever
@robbirose7032
@robbirose7032 3 місяці тому
Wait until you find Skibiddi toilet. Mind blowing.
@robbirose7032
@robbirose7032 3 місяці тому
@jjboss7896 how is it ironic?
@Stonymontana14
@Stonymontana14 3 місяці тому
@@robbirose7032thx for the nightmares
@AH-tx1nj
@AH-tx1nj 3 місяці тому
Chocolate rain - #1. This video is a close 2nd.
@ultrafuel2559
@ultrafuel2559 19 днів тому
I comes down to just saying a loud that having kids out of wedlock causes problems instead of trying to blame it on institutional racism...
@kraugaming7557
@kraugaming7557 24 дні тому
This is what a true debate is like. Not yelling over each other, throwing insults, etc. You can hear both Ben and Destiny debate their points and at the end of each segment, both can admit to agreeing to each others points in some way or another. There's no egotistical view that they MUST BE RIGHT at all costs.
@tybowesformerlygoat-x7760
@tybowesformerlygoat-x7760 3 місяці тому
2 hours of arguments, and not a single personal attack.
@beastwithin73
@beastwithin73 3 місяці тому
First minutes in destiny alludes to Shapiro being on the conservative Merry go round. While telling us AC is the reason kids aren't doing so good in schools
@asadelassad01
@asadelassad01 3 місяці тому
​@@beastwithin73 don't underestimate the importance of the mighty AC
@alangebhardtsbauer9312
@alangebhardtsbauer9312 3 місяці тому
@@beastwithin73man if you take that as a personal attack… yikes.
@J.J.Redick
@J.J.Redick 3 місяці тому
@@beastwithin73he used the AC thing as an example, that is 1 of the 1,000 problems to why kids aren’t doing well in schools. let’s not harp on it
@Armlace
@Armlace 3 місяці тому
@@beastwithin73 Science does put things like AC as an improvement to kid's education. Sorry, but facts over feelings.
@SadWatermelon
@SadWatermelon 3 місяці тому
These types of debates are rare. No yelling and being emotional just great points and arguments
@morgangreen2601
@morgangreen2601 3 місяці тому
And genuine disagreement throughout
@tritiumenergyconsulting
@tritiumenergyconsulting 3 місяці тому
There are plenty of them, they just aren't pop culture because their highly cerebral and esoteric which the public is not.
@MilahanPhilosophersCorner
@MilahanPhilosophersCorner 3 місяці тому
True.
@aSSGoblin1488
@aSSGoblin1488 3 місяці тому
th​@@morgangreen2601they both hate black ppeople
@AargleZymurgy
@AargleZymurgy 3 місяці тому
Yes. Two great minds challenging my own. I thoroughly enjoyed this.
@moriordan85
@moriordan85 27 днів тому
Gonna have to lower that playback speed for this one
@raphaellafontaine2410
@raphaellafontaine2410 27 днів тому
I had to look whether play speed was 1.25x or 1.5x, turns out it's just normal speed
@dennyb8442
@dennyb8442 3 місяці тому
Haven’t seen a logical discussion of ideas like this pertaining to the right and left in probably 5 years. No name-calling, attempts at ‘gotcha’ moments, constant interrupting, etc. This was refreshing.
@lMobiuscidl
@lMobiuscidl 3 місяці тому
An actual well done debate.
@jtjones4081
@jtjones4081 3 місяці тому
Let me help you out Ben, this argument is to point out that trump is unfit for office. Anyone with a couple brain cells and a modicum of integrity knows that.
@treshawndeandre
@treshawndeandre 3 місяці тому
It’s because Destiny is one of the few liberals that can actually debate, you can put him with almost any conservative and it’ll go well. Most of the liberals I’ve seen debate instantly go to personal attacks and constant interrupting like they’re afraid to let them speak a full sentence.
@gooberthoreau
@gooberthoreau 3 місяці тому
Destiny was a bit more tame here than he has been. Lately he has been terrible in debates, just gets so worked up he sounds manic, talks over people, etc. Here was better, though a couple times he got a bit into patronization.
@emmersonzhaime1998
@emmersonzhaime1998 3 місяці тому
@@treshawndeandrelol that comment can easily be made by a person on the left referring to the right. The reason why most debates are not civil because of people like you who assumes that the other side is always argue in bad faith
@alexwheatley541
@alexwheatley541 3 місяці тому
People have wanted to see these two in the same room for what feels like a decade, and it finally happened! Pretty cool, definitely a highlight reel moment
@freedomf1ghter77
@freedomf1ghter77 3 місяці тому
Must've felt drier than a desert
@OfficialKirby
@OfficialKirby 18 днів тому
It actually sounds so normal at 0.75x playback speed
@abbaspakdel4352
@abbaspakdel4352 21 день тому
I checked my playback speed 3times while listening to this podcast
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