Best time to buy GPU is when you actually need it.

GoG is great for letting me play the games I own on any hardware I own all at the same time. Truly and 100% DRM-free solves that issue.

even after 3 years 5600X is still a beast midrange CPU

Tim's smile through out Steve's description of the personal rig 😂

Went from R5 3600 to R7 7700 and I couldn't be happier. Really wanted the 7800x3d but it's double the price of 7700 here.

GOG allows you to have as many copies of the game as you want installed simultaneously, so if it's a concern for you and the game you want is available there that's the solution. Of course, I'd imagine the whole "No DRM, at all" thing is why a bunch of games simply aren't available on GOG.

Thanks for all your advises. It is always a pleasure to listen to you guys!

Thanks for all you guys do. I picked up the MSI G274QPX when I saw Tim's video on it from the Monitor's channel. Loving it!

I still have my 5600x paired with a 3080 since day 1 launch and I'm still shocked at how well this combo handles 1440p.

So glad to be back on your channel. Sadly dropped to watch, cause ended up selling my old pc. But now decided to make myself a gift of a brand new system and due to your awesome videos - purchased a build with 7800x3d and 4090 for great 4K gaming experience! Thank you!

Thanks lads. Usually informative, always entertaining.

Hope you both had a lovely Christmas!

Been following you blokes for a while now and what can I say, always providing what the people want to hear! Unlike Nvidia when they release their prices on GPU's.

All prices go up before the holidays. That way when they give you a "holiday discount" or a Black Friday deal, you feel like you are getting value....

Thank you for making chapters, makes it easier to navigate

23:33 interesting question and to answer this accurately requires some number crunching. When the gentleman on the right finally dragged the one on the left back to the original question, (26:23)about a given card, as opposed to the market as a whole, this attempted answer was very informative.

Only upgrade CPU when your FPS is/drops below your target value (be it 60, 120, 144, 240).

The Steam limit of 1 session per user seems like a non-issue considering they have Family Sharing. They want each person to have their own profile. As long as they're registered as family, they can play any of the games you're not playing. The problem you might bring up there is kind of a "get them into the ecosystem early" sort of thing, if it's a kid. Or if they wanted your profile to hoover up your data/violate your privacy. But not that they're not letting people in the same household share games.

Hope my question about monitors for content and productivity gets answered in a future Q&A! Thanks for answering the other popular questions in the YT post; many of them were of interest as well. You probably don't pick based on upvotes alone so I guess I shouldn't have expected to see it answered.

Went from 5600x to 7500F and B650m hdv2.m2 combo. It was cheaper to sell my platform and go for AM5 than upgrading to 5800x3D. 7500F is such a beast, I'm loving it!

Rocking 5600X and RTX 3080 for the last couple of years.Handling everything more than enough in 1440p. Will upgrade when i feel the games i wanna play in the future demand it. GTA 6..Star Citizen and et ceterra.

For Steam there is the family function where 5 computers can access the game while the main account does not play it!

I finally switched my 1070 FE for a 7800xt this month. I needed to wait for the price to come down until now. The card was over 700 euro in my country and 2 weeks ago a hellhound was discounted to 550 euro.

Steam's hardware survey probably only is sent to you if Steam detects a new install and/or hardware change

I'm currently running the 5800X3D (upgraded from a 3600) and loving it at 1440p. I'm glad I went that route over going to the new platform via the 7600. Plan on getting the 4070 Super when it launches so I should be set for a while.

Looking at upgrading my 9900K to the 7800x3D in a few days can't wait

I loved the white workstation banter on this video

For Steam: you can use family sharing to allow different accounts to play games from one library. My son plays games from my Steam account on his PC all the time. The only limitation is each game can only be played by one person at a time (which makes sense).

Wasn’t particularly happy about the performance of my last build back in 2020 for 1440p gaming. However, looking at what’s around and the prices of things, it’s hard to justify rebuilding/upgrading even now. It seems it make more sense to wait for the next gen Ryzen series and the RTX4k supers (I’m on an i7 10700k & RTX 2080 Super)

Went from nvidoa 1070(since 2016) to 7800xt and from 5600x to the 7800x3d. The gpu was of course were i noticed it more but the CPU of course had a lot of impact in some games. I sent my 5600x to my brother and for him changing the 3600x to 5600x was just enough to handle 1440p a lot better in many games.

Tim's way of saying Spatium it is what MSI confirmed to Paul as the correct way 😄

Have these series as a podcast in Google podcasts!!! Like the amazing HUB podcast you upload over there

Thanks for the 5600X tip! I could save more money by not spending then. I guess my next upgrade will be AM6. Don’t want to incur credit card debt.

Just went from a 5600 to 7800x3d and it was a pretty good jump in performance I got it for like $300 with a mobo/ram/cpu discount so I thought it was def worth it.

Only just looking at upgrading from my 1070 now. Thing has kept up unbelievably well

Ryzen 9 7950X3d is what I am going to, after I get out of this Threadripper. My upgrade cycle will be a little longer, as I feel this "old" Threadripper is still serving my needs. Thanks for this Q & A!

Last time I've tried I was able to play on Epic with on 2 PC's at the same time (same Account and Game)

I upgraded from a 5600x to a 7800x3d just a few weeks ago! The 5600x performs well in most games, but struggles in poorly optimized CPU-bound games or flight simulators. I was happy with my upgrade and optimistic I could keep the DDR5 ram and possibly the motherboard/beefier cooler I got to have an easy future pathway to upgrade to a future Ryzen 9000 series CPU. It's best to think of it in the sense of if you'd prefer to save money for this upgrade with an 5800x3d or your next upgrade.

I upgraded my Gtx 1070 to a RX 6800 in March of this year. I needed to wait for my GPU upgrade to play Final Fantasy 7 remake and Hitman 3. Your GPU needs really depends on which video games you play. I still have my R5 3600, but I'll look to upgrade to a 5800X3D around March because I like to upgrade when my current parts still have solid resale value as an entry level item and not necessarily bargin bin parts. I also buy parts 1 generation/1 year after they come out so I'm not paying opening day MSRP either.

17:06 Steam used to work the exact same way. If you logged in on your laptop, your desktop would be automatically logged off, and vice versa. Not sure how long ago they changed that, but it's worth remembering. Regarding the whole issue, it seems clear to me that the only valid limitation Steam can place is per-game. Once you're in a position to have multiple people logged in at once and detect when a game is being run, there's no excuse not to only limit it to one person per game. That's ignoring self-inflicted legalese problems, of course. I suspect that's the main culprit here, with Steam having a history of insisting that there's only one account owner, and accounts cannot be transferred. That's already afoul of the law in most jurisdictions (e.g. someone dies, meaning their library can be legally inherited - but Steam has no provision to do that). So they need to clean up their legal position and do the right thing here.

Outside of edge cases, 7600 seems like a sweet spot if you just want am5. x3d, I say this all the time but it's awesome for extending the life of a platform so sure, upgrading 7600 to like 9700x3d down the road might be a good idea. People get drawn into those benchmark charts tailored to show CPU differences and overspend

My suggestion for sharing games on platforms like steam would be to allow one account to lend one or more games to another account for a period of time, just like lending a CD as you mentioned. Many drawbacks for sure but is an option to explore

I upgraded my 3600 to a ryzen 7 5800x a year ago :D and its totaly fine.. great performance for gaming and hobby videoediting.

Thanks for answering my question! I use a placeholder 6800XT GPU rn with the 5600X and want to upgrade later this year to a 5080 or 8900XT, if they come. The 7800x3d was on sale for 340 and i wanted to build a mATX system anyway cuz my Silent Base 802 is way too big for my current needs. If i am gonna build a new mATX Sytem i thought why go with AM4 again, since the MB prices are pretty much the same with AM5. DDR5 Ram cots a bit more, but it will last me longer i assume. I am not the biggest gamer, but if i do play i want performence, and the x3d cpu´s not having bad 1% lows is a good thing for fluid gaming. I play CPU demanding games like Warzone. The only question was if the 7800X3d is a good deal for 340€ (never been that low in my area), or should i just wait half a year and buy lets say a 9600X for probably less money.

I have a 7600x and a 7800xt and I couldn't be happier, I'm out here doing better than some i9 + 3090 builds. I want a 7800X3D but since I just made the switch to AM5 I will just wait for the 8800X3D

I went from a 5950x to a 7800x3d. Well worth it, for what I use my system for.

There is a workaround sometimes with Steam. I'm playing Starfield and set Steam to go Offline now I can play Starfield whilst my son upstairs plays whatever he's playing. This does work obviously it won't work on everything for games that need to be online for example but it works for us.

@Hardware Unboxed- for a new gaming build, If you have the Budget should you Max out your Storage i.e. Asus MOBO Crosshair X670E- 2TB or 4TB x4 M.2. slots filled up, plus adding 4TB x2 or x4 SATA SDD's in your build or is there a limit you should not cross AKA Crazy Man just to start out. Plan is to DL many games over the next year. noticed the games I want are like 150Gb each and there are 5 just off the top of my head, but many more to come after those.

I upgrade every 4-5 years I went from a 8700K and a RTX 2080ti with 32GB of ram to a Ryzen 7800X3D RTX 4080 and 64GB of ram and it is a huuuuge jump in performance. It cost me a lot because I bought everything new except storage but it is worth it. I am hoping AM5 platform sticks around for a while so when I upgrade in the future I can do it on the cheap relatively speaking. I hope to buy a new CPU and GPU in 3-4 years and be set for another 3-4 years.

I fully recommend upgrading to the 7800X3D if you play sandbox type games and/or other games that heavily rely on CPU performance, like Rust, Space Engineers, Raft, etc. For me the upgrade to this CPU was massive in performance gains for these types of games and not only. I hope it helps the person who asked or anyone reading this in a similar position.

Gotta love UKposts viewers 'One 2 hour video? I don't think so', 'Four 30 minute videos? Now that's better'

The thing with geofencing is that some of us travel for studies or work to different regions/countries, so maybe there should be some limited manual region whitelist or limits to how many simultaneous logged in clients can play a game.

AM4 is fast enough to see out AM5 platform. My 3700x and 3080 10gb still runs everything fine at 2k . I don't see 4k or AM5 needed at moment. To buy a new mb..memory..etc just for a 20% boost isn't really worth it for me personally. If l can run what l want to play smoothly at 120 fps plus lm fine with that. Nvidigreedia ripped me off with 3080 10gb..l got them back by boycotting 4080. I will upgrade when l have to..that way l don't waste m money. Just turn down shadows etc u get your 20 percent boost for free.

I was using the i7 7700k since it was released with 16gb DDR4 and GTX 1060 6GB, so almost 7 years with it, and this week (12/25/23) I built a PC with Ryzen 7 7700X, 32GB DDR5 and RTX 4070 and oh my, what a JUMP in performance! So much nicer to edit videos and play games!

On that steam comment, its why I am shifting my priority to Good Old Games, that way theres no limitations plus you can download older versions of a game if something gets borked in an update. We're getting more modern titles to launch there too so its definitely worth it for the many benefits it brings back.

27:20 - Yeah, you can always wait for a newer product. Just sold my old mini PC and I plan on buying the RX 7600 XT that is rumored to be announced in the next couple of weeks at CES 2024. I hope it's below $340 with 6800 XT-like performance.

The 7900XT at $900 wasn't undercut by the 7900XTX $1000, because there was no available 7900XTX at MSRP for quite a while. It was more like $900 vs $1100. This situation also applied to NVIDIA as well. I gladly grabbed a $900 7900XT at release. And consider that only two years earlier a 6900XT was not selling at the MSRP of $999 but $1300+. I consider the 7900XT the first GPU in quite a while to launch at MSRP and maintain a good degree of availability. So funny how so many look down their nose at the 7900XT.

The steam gaming is particularly annoying now that the Steamdeck is a thing. I picked up an OLED deck recently, and was hoping to be able to use it to do things like keep up with a round of Vampire Survivors while queuing for a game of Dota or something. But unless I set the deck to offline mode, this isn't currently possible - it's a perfect use case for the deck!

The Steam question has a simple solution. Make your kid a login and do family library sharing. The kid can play your game while you play a different game.

Upgrade timeline? When it suits you. I had an AMD tricore CPU and GT520 GPU. It did what i wanted which was some low level floght sim stuff and older RPGs. I went to a GTX670 and FX8350, then a Ryzen 3 1200 and GTX970. Ultimately I went to an R5 3600 and 1070Ti and I'm still there as it does what I want. Ill likely get a new GPU when I see whats available next gen. And by 'new' I mean used from the current gen, haha.

33:20 I feel like for the money you have to put into it for the performance you get back, it’d be better to just throw in a 5800X3D and ride that for a generation or two. It’s not the 7800X3D but it’s still plenty capable

If the 8800/9800x3D will be a bang for the buck as the 7800x3d I will definitely go for this piece of decent silicon in my new gaming rig 2025

A couple of years ago, my son went from a 1600 (I believe that 2600 that got released as a 1600) to a 5800x3D. Best upgrade ever! He also eventually upgraded the graphics card to a 6800XT and now he has more than enough for his needs for quite a while. Is a single generation upgrade worth it? For me, due to business needs, it usually is. But for most it isn’t.

How the steam thing works is that they want you to have steam family stuff. Every person who wants to share games needs to be an authorized family user, which you can do by logging into that new computer with your steam account. Once the new pc has been authorized, log into that pc with the separate account and you can now have 2 separate users. This should work with up to 5 new accounts and 1 main account, and you can all share games across them. You can’t play all of them at the same time, but it’s as you guys described. This problem got fixed a little while ago, but I’m glad to offer help!

Went from 9700k to 7800x3d. The VAST jump in performance could not be more understated. It’s a SIGNIFICANT upgrade. I hardly reach 50c or 40% usage at gaming load 4k 120 AND she never uses more than 40w whiles she’s at it 😳😳👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

I bought my mom a washing/drying machine combo this past Black Friday and I received a 300$ gift card. I've been rocking a 5600x with a 3080ti since they released. I thought maybe time to upgrade(?). So I was about to buy a 5800x3D, but then I did the math and it was about the same if I went up to a 7800x3D if I sold my CPU, MOBO, and RAM. So I did just that. And wow! My 5600x was bottlenecking my 3080ti big time, my 7800x3D has been awesome. I couldn't be happier. And best of all, it was a free upgrade!

I went from 5600x to 7800x 3d with a asrock b650m hdv m2 +. for me, its a good upgrade because I use 1080p with a 3070ti and play fps competitive. from 140-150 fps to 200 warzone mw3. Im happy with that

I have an older Alienware r2 with a 5930k cpu and replaced the dual 980`s out an put a 1080 8gb in awhile back. It has no m.2 slots an the windows drive is a 2.5" 256 gb sata drive with a 4tb 7200rpm storage. Should I replace the video card or just upgrade to a whole new system ? I`m on disability so dont have heaps of money but this system is starting to become an issue when playing some newer games. I really respect what you guys are doing an appreciate any advice, tyvm!

As someone who went from a 5800x to a 7800x3d yes. It is. I can only imagine how much better it is over the 5600x. I aim race, which is very CPU intensive tho. So I needed it.

im on a i5-13600kf, but would look at getting ryzen 7 7800x3d since its pairing with a 4080

I'm doing a new build in the new year as santa was late dropping my prezzie off, I'm going from a 3600x, 32gb 3200 gskil and a 6700xt to a 7950x3d, 96gb 6400 gskill ram and a taichi 7900xtx and I'm buzzing to see the uplift I'm going to get (yes I know the 7800x3d is probably a bit better for gaming but I need the extra productivity grunt for uni work) the daughter is buzzing as shes getting my current build. The mobo I'm is the x670e Ace (yes overkill I know) however I know it has one of the best ram stability on the AM5 platform from what people have told me and my question is will I need to trim the megatranfers down to 6000 as I know there has been issues with the 48gb kits? I wanted to get as much ram as I could afford in 2 sticks rather than 4 knowing that the speed would have to drastically dropped?

On note of the single active user policy with steam, having something like what tim mentioned of getting a significant discount for buying a second copy would also make people less likely to circumvent the policy (there is almost always a way to do it, and if it's a singleplayer game then disconnecting from the internet is usually fine) so it would probably work in developers' (and valve's) favour

I have a ryzen 5 2600 and planning to upgrade to ryzen 7 5800x3d? I know its worth it but I'm being torn apart from waiting for the next gen ryzen or just do the upgrade when mobo still support it.

I sold my 5800X3D/mobo/ram for $400 and spent $700 for my 7800X3D/mobo/ram so it really was only a $300 upgrade. Haven’t had a single regret, it’s much more performance in the games I play.

the whole steam 1 game launched per 1 account is even more relevant since steam deck release - sometimes you would like to play with your buddy (you on main pc, and friend on steam deck) and you just cant do that unless you relog to other account and buy the game again (i think this also limits free2play games). There really should be some way around, idk maybe 50? % discount or something so u get multiple launches licence.

In a previous video you guys said the ASrock Z690 Phantom Gaming 4/D5 was a terrible motherboard. I have this exact one and a C/D5 that it's based on. Can you elaborate what's wrong with it?

I upgrade 5600x to 7800x3d paired with goat 3080. The different of fps is massive. I did not know that my 5600x was bottlenecking my 3080 for a lot. On Warzone my game runs like 70% more fps and very smooth gameplay at 1440p. Other game like Valorant consistent 500+fps at 1440p. Is really amazing upgrade.

20:05 This already exists - it's called GOG, where you don't need to be signed in to play games. Unfortunately, the game selection isn't that great when it comes to newer games, though...

I am just upgrading from my laptop which i got 8 years ago roughly to a new pc as most game were fine until 2023. If you want top graphics and performance all the time because that is your hobby then you will probably find you use your pc a whole lot and play games that really require top specs. I myself have played many top of the line games such as cyberpunk 2077 on that 980m and whilst it could of looked better it did run, was able to finish the game but didnt try the expansion as my laptop was just not running at good enough performance with cyberpunk 2077 and that is where i knew i NEEDED a new pc. Being a laptop it clearly wasnt going to be just a straight swap onto a new graphics card so have went for a completely new build, pretty much top of the line for gaming. The issues i see is that since developers make games for ps and xbox and pc is more of an after thought in todays age most high end graphics cards today will run for quite a while at top specs. Thats my opinion atleast

I've been prompted to take part in the steam hardware survey several times.

My 5900x is still in it's box, still rocking a 4770k.

5600x to 5800x3d?

looking at that antec sponsor case, i dont know which i like better, that or the Fractal Design Torrent. they are clearly very similar.

For the 'wait GPU' question, my latest experience was buying a 6800xt last year this time for about $550 USD used (new was sold out). If I waited till this year's black friday price of ~$480, then I couldn't have enjoyed games like D4, AC6, Lies of P, and BG3 as much with my Vega 56, so that $70 difference was well worth it. Heck, I was looking to buy it during launch with MSRP of $650, and would have been worth it 100% but mining boom happened so was sold out everywhere (or heavily scalped). As for whether that vega 56 was worth the ~$100 USD that I saved between it and the 5700xt that I actually wanted, it was a much harder question to answer. On one hand, I built my Ryzen 2 rig from the ground up at that time, so it was just go for the vega 56 immediately or tack on another $50 to get an interim cheap used GPU while I wait for the 5700xt 3 months down the line. I decided not to spend the extra money and instead save it for Navi 21, which would have been a great idea but mining boom happened. As such, I was stuck with a vega 56 for three years, and really regretted not just forking over the extra cash. So yes, for GPU, if the competitors for the GPU you are eyeing has been released, just buy it then and there. You never know when a tech boom will happen, which will make GPUs skyrocket in price. CPUs on the other hand, isn't nearly been affected by any trends... I really should have just delayed building my Ryzen 2 rig a few months later to buy it together with a 5700xt (by then the CPU had a slight sale already), but as they say hindsight is 20/20.

The first question regarding cost per frame had me quite intrigued, especially your take on it. There were 14 cards that were compared by a cost per frame and it had all 6 Radeon cards rated the cheapest per frame compared to all 8 Nvidia cards rated in the most expensive range and then came Tim's take on all of this.....the Radeon cards have to be cheaper as the current pricing didn't make sense. Did I miss something.

Just hearing the name 'Antec' in that ad at the start feels like a blast from the past. Feels like they haven't been relevant for well over a decade, so all the power to them if they're bringing competitive new stuff to market.

I've pretty much done all the research I possibly can, as someone that's been building computers for nearly 20 years, mostly looking for opinions here from the tech lads down under. Currently on a 3900XT, 64GB of RAM, and an EVGA FTW3 Hybrid 2080 Super but because of refurbished parts and Frankenstein replacements while troubleshooting, it's on its way out unfortunately. I've got build lists for a 4070, 4080, and 4090 rig, all still on AM4 with a 5900X or 5950X, as well as nearly identical lists for AM5 with the 7900X or 7950X/X3D. I'm a power user and do use the rig for streaming occasionally, will do more when situation allows, as well as some photo and video editing. It seems like AM5, being in its first gen, still has too many quirks to make the jump (slow boots, only able to run 2-stick RAM kits limiting capacity, odd stability issues) but it does have a decently significant performance uplift. I'm looking to build sometime this next summer, so late 2024. First question is, what of those GPUs would be the best bang for my buck? Or does it make more sense to wait for 50 series and hope Nvidia gets their heads out of their inflationary asses? I'm currently strongly leaning towards the 4090 for just pure power and as much "future proofing" as one can reasonably get out of any build, but I've also considered tuning it back to a 4070 or 4080, mainly because 4090's can swing up to 3 grand in Canada, but the 4080 isn't that far behind in price and the 4070 goes for a good 1000-1200. The 4070 Ti seems like a wash for value so I didn't bother to include it. I game at 1440p 144hz, usually high settings if I can. Second question is, what's been your personal experience with the AM5 platform? Is it stable enough in its current iteration? I get there's no guarantee of stability, but relatively speaking in comparison to the fully fleshed out AM4. I believe we're on track to get the next gen AM5 chips in Q2 2024 as well, so would it be worth waiting to see how that improves things before pulling the trigger? I'd love to get at least 3 M.2 slots, which was a rarity on AM4 except on the high end motherboards which are nearly impossible to find these days (always wanted a Crosshair Extreme). As always, enjoyed the content and seeing that Tim commits heretical sins with his PC.

i have a 5950 sitting on the desk now waiting to install this next week. moving up from 3600.

That last question was kind of funny. I'm going from a 5800X3D to a 7800X3D. But this is due to me giving my nephew this PC, but with an older GPU (RTX 2060) until I replace my current RTX 3070Ti next year. I've often bought the last CPU and motherboard for a generation/socket and then unable to upgrade, so I figured I'd get a good X670 motherboard now and hopefully do a CPU upgrade in the future.

Regarding the last question (33:20), I'd say that VRChat/creating for VRChat is one of the few times it would make sense to upgrade from the R5 5600X to the R7 7800X3D (even 5800X3D for cheaper). Especially if people are spending enough time in the social game and/or are producing goods/models/etc for the game (basically game dev), since benchmarks from the community & VRChat staff have shown it does drastically drop perf/watt + frame consistency + reduced time for loading/model building/etc. Plus, I'm in that boat of "should I upgrade" and I think I'll wait for a bit longer. Gonna wait for a few more friends to do the upgrade before I jump in myself, since I think I missed the EOY boat for when the cost is at its lowest as I only did just upgrade about two years ago >.>;;;;

I watch this video from 7840HS Notebook with integrated 780M Radeon iGPU, playing BG3 2560x1440 medium with fsr 2.2 - 45+ FPS. My VRAM is less than 2 GB in Steam Survey :) And my Main PC now have 14600k/7800xt / 1440p 165 hz mon - BG 3 all maxed is please to watch - such a great details in characters, and eyes... what a nice details in eyes

Thank you, that is my very conundrum presently, albeit I have my eyes on the 7700...

I hope this channel can do a paradox gaming testing since that is what i mainly played on my pc.. Its so rare these days I have upgraded my cpu from 12400f to 7800x3d, i did noticed a decent performance uplift in games like city skyline, and eu4, but i just wanna know how much is it, whats the number, idealy i wanna see cc's do stuff like all paradox famous games testing with differwnt levels of cpu's and compared their results.

big win for me, build 2019 with R5 2600 n now im changin to 5600 good price cut good price without changing board good watt efficientcy good increase perfo . n still waiting the same situation for am5 to be like this

My 5600X is at 80% utilization on Cyberpunk at full max settings with RT turned off. Would upgrading make a difference? I have a RTX 3070 ti on a 1440p monitor

When I upgrade my GPU, i'm not as concerned about the competition for that particular GPU as I am how much of an increase over what I already have it is, and how the $$ per performance compares to what I paid for my old one (including inflation). I avoid worrying about what everyone else has and I'm just worried about what sort of increase I get in the games that I play. I get a lot of enjoyment out of upgrading when I re-play an older game but I can just completely max out the settings and get a new experience.

I took the jump a few days ago from the 5600x to the 7800X3D. I got the 7800X3D, with MSI B650-P Pro ATX, and Gskill Flare X5 32gb, 6000 CL36 for $499 at Microcenter in a bundle. Paired with a 6950xt it is everything I could ever want. Though, I could have gone with the 5800X3D for cheaper, I went with the 7800X3D for a few reasons. Number one, I'm handing down my 5600X rig to my soon to be 7yr old and I would have had to buy another Mobo/Ram anyways. Second, by going AM5 it gives me some upgrade wiggle room if needed in the future. Lastly, I could afford it and the deal from Microcenter was insane, 7800X3D - $270, MSI mobo - $146, Gskill for $83. Pretty crazy deal I think. Hopefully the MSI board holds out, as I've always been an Asus fan, but I took the plunge and thought I'd try out the MSI board. So far, in Escape from Tarkov, the 7800X3D is noticably smoother and I can't be happier with my rig!

Waiting for the 4090 to drop in price would have been a mistake, however, waiting a few months for the XFX black edition RX7900XT to hit near $700, was max value.

I just built my new system, it's right now performing a burn in test in my lab to monitor temps, I choose a Ryzen 7 5800X CPU paired with a MSI RX6750XT trio plus GPU and 64Gb RAM the Corsair Dominator platinum sticks (dual channel) CL16 And a Asus TUF wifi motherboard, and with a custom loop and all parts from EK. And all the fans from be quite high pressure fans. My CPU stays around 52°C in full load (24h test). And now the system is tested with a special suite, with bursts and burn in tech. Runs smooth and quiet to be honest. And fans aren't ramping up, so there is a lot of headroom to overclock.

I went from 5600x and I got the 7800x3d bundle from Microcenter. It feels like I got a new monitor, with how smooth everything has become! Worth it imo if you have disposable income