Better Believe It: Steve Cannane on Scientology in Australia

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Secretive, star-studded and litigious - the Church of Scientology holds a risky, irresistible allure for a certain kind of investigative journalist.
There’s been some excellent reporting on Scientology in recent years, including documentaries from Alex Gibney (Going Clear) and Louis Theroux (My Scientology Story). Now, Walkley Award-winning journalist Steve Cannane digs deeper into the local activities of the religion with his new book, Fair Game.
Scientology and Australia have had a strange, troublesome history. In 1963, the world’s first official government inquiry into Scientology was held here, and the state of Victoria subsequently (and briefly) became the first place in the world where the religion was banned.
At the Wheeler Centre, Cannane’s focus is the church’s more recent history in Australia. He discusses the writing and research of Fair Game and his fascinating findings on the church’s recruitment of James Packer, its dispute with Julian Assange and its role in exposing abuses in Australian psychiatric facilities. He also addresses some broader questions about Scientology. Is the myth of Xenu any wackier than that of the virgin birth? How much does prejudice play into media discussions of the religion? And why are non-believers so fascinated by Scientology?
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 425
@ChazSmithProductions
@ChazSmithProductions Рік тому
"Going Clear" refers to your bank balance when you become a Scientologist.
@CarolineSPKC
@CarolineSPKC Рік тому
Spot on 😂
@BarbarasGonnaDoThis
@BarbarasGonnaDoThis Рік тому
Bravo!
@LindseyReed
@LindseyReed Рік тому
And you prefer to spend your tax dollars killing Russians
@elsjemassyn8921
@elsjemassyn8921 Рік тому
🤣😆😂
@unisophia
@unisophia Рік тому
exactly what I thought :) lol
@jerryloufretz1797
@jerryloufretz1797 Рік тому
L Ron Hubbard was a liar and a lunatic but apparently convinced people to follow his realty.
@sharonlangton6521
@sharonlangton6521 Рік тому
"reality"? You MUST MEAN "
@sharonlangton6521
@sharonlangton6521 Рік тому
Bull Crap"
@ShamanicArtsBroadcasts
@ShamanicArtsBroadcasts Рік тому
Hubbard studied and knew mind control techniques to "persuade" people to not only work for no pay (and little support) but also persuaded them to pay for their own brainwashing (audits are NOT cheap.) Most cults understand there are quirks built in to the human brain (the designer may call them features) that make humans susceptible to mind control. The only way to combat mind control is to understand how it works. Obviously Hubbard used that knowledge and tax-free status to build a criminal cartel.
@victorseger6044
@victorseger6044 11 місяців тому
Jerry Lou Fretz it's called gullibility and once you're in it's called being a hostage..
@g1a1r1y3
@g1a1r1y3 6 років тому
As it turns out Hubbard may get his wish: Australia may be the first continent "clear"- of Scientology. Be careful what you wish for.
@Itsgrantsrants
@Itsgrantsrants 4 роки тому
Brilliant
@Martypants666
@Martypants666 Рік тому
excellent. wonderful those little prepositions 😁
@trueblue2869
@trueblue2869 Рік тому
I'm Australian and I certainly hope not!. It's a cult and I know that they are trying their best to try and recruit here and it's scary . It's just Scientology's pathetic attempt to get some stable footing in Australia. The world honestly doesn't need criminals like them. Like J W's they are only praying on people. Alot of us are onto them from watching the chaos and abuse of human rights in America. It's no surprise to me that they are trying it onn here as well. I know that those 2 fake "religions" are being monitored, our government's wary and watching them very closely and not in a good way. This guy's just another bare bum in the shower.🤣 ❤️🇦🇺
@ellengarcia4041
@ellengarcia4041 Рік тому
Good job
@MRVISTA-wz7vj
@MRVISTA-wz7vj Рік тому
He went the religion route solely for tax reasons. It was always about money. Every other reason is for your entertainment.
@sicilianotoronto
@sicilianotoronto 6 років тому
Hubbard sounds like a total malignant narcissist! LOL!
@LittleMissDivine
@LittleMissDivine 3 роки тому
cause he is!
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Рік тому
Hubbard is long dead. He's been replaced by David Miscavige who is worse. David's wife, Shelley Miscavige, has disappeared into the organisation. No one knows whether she's dead or a prisoner or mentally collapsed or what.
@nancybassett4413
@nancybassett4413 Рік тому
He was.
@harrymarsee701
@harrymarsee701 Рік тому
Miscavige is even worse. These men were/are possessed by evil spirits. Evil exists and is alive and thriving in scientology!
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Рік тому
@@harrymarsee701 Hi Harry, I am not a believer in evil spirits though I can understand why someone might believe. Instead, I think it is all too easy to drift into something that looks mildly interesting and then find yourself caught up in a buzz of activity that feel involving - and then find that you're trapped in something so complex that you can't escape. The big danger is the way that Scientology gets people to confess all their mistakes and then those people feel threatened with great embarrassment if their secrets are revealed.
@George50809
@George50809 6 років тому
L. Ron Hubbard...con man.
@beesmonk
@beesmonk 2 роки тому
Nòoooooooooooo! 😂🤣😁
@happytoday333
@happytoday333 Рік тому
Is it Lafayette Ronald Hubbard?
@kittykatwolf8294
@kittykatwolf8294 Рік тому
I bet he's laughing in his grave! Muppets...
@happytoday333
@happytoday333 Рік тому
@@kittykatwolf8294 why hasn't he been born into another vessel yet?
@mindsigh4
@mindsigh4 Рік тому
@@happytoday333 i thot it was Elroy Hubtard?
@Blue-Mondays
@Blue-Mondays Рік тому
For narcissistic celebrities this is a perfect place- I am a special super being tasked with saving the planet. 🙄🙄
@reidun918
@reidun918 Рік тому
Like Tom C.. Perfect member and a narcissist !!!!!!!!
@reformCopyright
@reformCopyright 4 роки тому
It should go without saying that a religious organisation should not at the same time be allowed to have trade secrets and enjoy tax exempt status.
@malcolmjohnston3227
@malcolmjohnston3227 4 роки тому
AAhhh... The MORMON CHURCH has TONS of SECRET INITIATIONS... "magic underwear", etc. Some really bat-crazy shiite the was, FOR THE TIME, considered 'special' and WOW stuff (1800's!). Fraternities today still have 'secret' initiations, etc... homoERECTIC stuff that their Daddy's daddy had to go through 'in-the-day' as well!
@pansprayers
@pansprayers 2 роки тому
Well, there goes all Abrahemic belief systems, in a single go, as well.
@albertmagician8613
@albertmagician8613 Рік тому
@magnus. It bears repeating, "trade secrets sts" voids the exmpt status.
@ShamanicArtsBroadcasts
@ShamanicArtsBroadcasts Рік тому
I didn't know about the trade secrets. What types of things can be included as trade secrets?
@twylas8463
@twylas8463 4 роки тому
Yes very great interview one of the best I've seen:) scientology is so abusive it should be shut down!!! I get it might help some people but seems to harm so many familys :( sad
@mindsigh4
@mindsigh4 Рік тому
members were supposedly kept in the dark, watching tv news/reading news/press/magazines were discouraged /forbidden because they were painted as enemies & subversive liars, but now, anyone with a semi-smartphone can watch YT videos (such as this one) of ex Scientoologists who detail the severe control/intimidation & paranoia that all members have either suspected, heard about or witnessed (to greater or lesser degrees). though Scientoologies real estate empire may be truly massive, their membership is falling in proportion to how much their predation is being brought to light. amen.✅
@TheJoshuamooney
@TheJoshuamooney Рік тому
Kudos to these two journalists I’d never heard of before! This is one of the best, clearest discussion about Scientology I’ve ever heard. I learned a lot. Well done.
@cydkriletich6538
@cydkriletich6538 Рік тому
I just caught this interview, which is excellent. It is 5 years since this interview and I think it’s fair to say that things haven’t gotten any better for Scientology. Leah Remini’s and Mike Rinder’s television show “Scientology: The Aftermath” pretty much blew the lid off of the cult. In fact, with the upcoming trial of celebrity Scientologist Danny Masterson for alleged inappropriate actions taken against a number of women, (euphemisms deliberate on my part), things are likely going to get much worse for Scientology. I still don’t understand how this cult can maintain Church status when so much information is out there regarding its true intent. For example, Cannane states that the U.S. government found files that came right out and explained the cult’s conspiracy to frame Ms.Cooper. That’s a crime. Actual writings by Hubbard wherein he states his true intentions. The cult’s policy of not allowing victims of crime by other cult members to go to the authorities. Isn’t that Obstruction of Justice? Unless I am referencing the way this cult refers to itself, I avoid ever referring to it as the “Church” of Scientology.
@taylor4778
@taylor4778 Рік тому
I have watched every show and interview that have been on TV to date, and have read Reminis book, as well as the one written by the other gentleman (not Rinder) who barely escaped with his life on a motorcycle the night he "escaped," and I totally agree with you. The word cult doesn't seem strong enough of a term for the tyranny the members seem to live under, and Miscavige needs to be in a jail cell somewhere far far away from innocent human beings who are easily manipulated. I'm still wondering where he had his poor wife's remains buried because there is no way in hell that I believe she is still alive. I suspect when that mystery is solved, a lot of others will also begin to unravel!
@zublacus
@zublacus Рік тому
The fact this cult still has Tax Free Religious status is mindboggling.
@taylor4778
@taylor4778 Рік тому
@@zublacus Yes it is and it's time people started doing something about it. Can you imagine what the taxes Scientology didn't pay could have funded? Instead, that money went directly into Muscaviges pockets. You know it did!
@elisabethvismans
@elisabethvismans Рік тому
In Germany Scientology is not recognized as a church but rather as an abusive organization masquerading as a religion.
@absolince
@absolince Рік тому
@@taylor4778 all scientology buildings should be used for homeless
@rossmurray6849
@rossmurray6849 Рік тому
I'm conflicted, as if my entire world has been tossed into the air and landed on its head. In almost seven decades on this planet I've never had one kind thought about Rupert Murdoch. What do I do now?
@adamgorelick3714
@adamgorelick3714 Рік тому
Assange's brilliant excoriation of Scientology doesn't even mention the most insidious weapon in their arsenal: the "Church's" tax-free status [which had become effective in 1993].
@victorseger6044
@victorseger6044 11 місяців тому
Which the IRS needs to review and break them..
@Nicobornico
@Nicobornico 6 років тому
This is genius, excellent interview.
@Orf
@Orf 3 роки тому
47:50 Has the internet killed Scientology? Yes it has
@sandralybrand9425
@sandralybrand9425 Рік тому
That's a good thing!
@raymondkymsuttle
@raymondkymsuttle 3 роки тому
I don’t agree that they shouldn’t have been banned. If they’d been banned everywhere they wouldn’t have been able to ruin the thousands of lives they have with their policies of disconnection & (un)fair game.
@pansprayers
@pansprayers 2 роки тому
By that logic, we need to ban all religious philosophy. Religion has been the single largest cause of war in human history. banning people from practicing any religious or esoteric concept doesn't stop them - it just forces them further underground, and radicalizes them further
@yellowjacket588
@yellowjacket588 4 роки тому
Have you ever heard anyone say, "I was in Scientology for a few years its okay but it just wasn't for me!"
@leandroferrini641
@leandroferrini641 4 роки тому
That was actually me, was in it for a few months before I left. As a "staff" member you get to. see the reality. of how everything is.
@malcolmjohnston3227
@malcolmjohnston3227 4 роки тому
That's why they want WOMEN to draw in the men, then once settled in they can move onto another 'sucker'!
@deborahbarry8458
@deborahbarry8458 3 роки тому
Leandro Ferrini I’m so intrigued about your experience with Scientology!
@yellowjacket588
@yellowjacket588 3 роки тому
Deborah Barry I have no personal experience with Scientology and I never will but those who have left it seem to have left under negative circumstances.
@leandroferrini641
@leandroferrini641 3 роки тому
Fei Fei I just left honestly, one day I dropped off my keys to the building at my superiors desk with a few other things and left. Nobody chases you down or anything like the things you hear online or w.e but the thing I did realize is that the data only applies when it’s in the church’s favor 🤷🏻‍♂️ there’s a lot of good things in the church and a lot of helpful data, but I just think the whole church needs restructuring to actually follow the steps and direction that Hubbard wanted.
@dasmahlwerk1108
@dasmahlwerk1108 5 років тому
Damn good interview! It's amazing how some people have so much money yet so little sense...
@pauldailey4477
@pauldailey4477 Рік тому
Sure jew, but that´s hardly your problem with Scientology.
@myperspective5091
@myperspective5091 6 років тому
At 10:06. The main reason that they said that they were not a religion is because they didn't want to be seen as a cult, but more importantly is because Ron is an >>ATHEIST
@Toysinnick123456
@Toysinnick123456 7 років тому
I like the way the interview flows
@brianmchugh7679
@brianmchugh7679 7 років тому
Tulio Garcia Its a gripping interview. 👍
@Joey-dv8hb
@Joey-dv8hb Рік тому
What's messed up worse is they have open buildings and there are million's of homeless people, they could literally set up bed's and ACTUALLY help some people to get off the streets and they leave them empty for absolutely no reason. It's just incredible greed and selfishness
@nerminodkan401
@nerminodkan401 Рік тому
Cult of Greed.
@stealthwarrior5768
@stealthwarrior5768 Рік тому
It's a cult
@sovereignbrehon
@sovereignbrehon Рік тому
They lead the hunt of the homeless
@jenholmes4033
@jenholmes4033 5 років тому
We need another inquiry ASAP, remove their tax exempt status. Re the inquiry the cult is not a bright lot. What about the children & those kept in the hole & those made to clean bathrooms with their tongues. I like the idea of the cult going underground
@eleanorclub
@eleanorclub 2 роки тому
Thank you for giving Yvon Gillham her due. She was a powerhouse of compassion and effectiveness. Read Commodore's Messenger for more. Hubbard kept all of Gillham's children with him on the ship Apollo - for five years. She begged him for her children, tried to pull strings with his wife, etc -- all to no avail.
@snoodles1234
@snoodles1234 Рік тому
Well articulated speaker very good Interviewer with good leading questions and not interrupting any answers. I liked this.
@jenholmes4033
@jenholmes4033 5 років тому
We know Cruises weakness, his father was violent, an alcoholic & left he , his 4 sisters & mother at an early age, got him 👍
@joelmalnofski5896
@joelmalnofski5896 3 роки тому
Cruise is a fake, still
@sallyreff2574
@sallyreff2574 3 місяці тому
When you leave a religion, the word "escape" should not be part of your sentence. A religion doesn't imprisone members. The list is long & this is not a religion.
@ashveselak223
@ashveselak223 3 роки тому
L. Ron Hubbard died 35 years ago. Where is he now?? Shouldn’t he have been given a new body by now?? I wonder how often Scientology members ask themselves this...
@pansprayers
@pansprayers 2 роки тому
Target Two. It was his escape plan for when he didn't come back.
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 Рік тому
"Bigotry breeds hatred"- Tom Cruise
@TALKCalgary
@TALKCalgary Рік тому
I've been told by friends that the government in Australia is extremely repressive, but passing laws about what people can or cannot believe is borderline totalitarian. But leaving that aside this has to be one of the most interesting and informative interviews I've watched in years.
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Рік тому
We don't pass laws about what people can believe but it's important to protect people against con artists who find ways to use people for free labour and to exploit them financially offering services which they don't deliver.
@ellengarcia4041
@ellengarcia4041 Рік тому
What else you been told
@joanneginever1890
@joanneginever1890 Рік тому
The law does not prevent anyone from believing whatever they want to believe. It does however stop a financially driven super rich mega conglomerate organisation from setting up shop in the state and proceeding to take advantage of vulnerable people and fleece them of every last cent they have to their name, force them to then sell any property including the family home and donate the proceeds to Scientology, emotionally, physically and psychologically abuse them to the point of suicide in some cases, or making a bid to "blow" ie flee. The so called COB (Chairman of the Board) David Miscavige is an evil, narcissistic, abusive, violent little pos! This organisation is in no way religious, they do not believe in God, Jesus or any other "deity". Their "god" is money and power.🤑🤑🤑 Check out "Blown For Good: Behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology by Marc Headley as a starting point. They are corrupt to the core and Miscavige is an absolute psychopath 💀
@vields2352
@vields2352 Рік тому
I’m Australian and that’s pretty laughable. You can believe in Scientology and anything you want to, nobody is going to stop you. In fact our high court ruled it as a religion which means in has tax exemption over here which is a pretty unpopular opinion. I myself am not particularly keen on having them not have to pay tax while grifting millions of dollars and destroying the lives of vulnerable people, actively trying to destroy the lives of detractors or those who simply choose to leave, and who basically practice indentured slavery using the org members as free labour among many more pretty abhorrent behaviour. But as for freedom, trust we have it pretty damn good over here.
@ljre3397
@ljre3397 Рік тому
Coming from the US Australia sounds pretty together.
@svetlanastojanoska4012
@svetlanastojanoska4012 6 років тому
Fascinating interview...thanks guys
@trojanette8345
@trojanette8345 4 роки тому
After listening to this guy it kind of makes you wonder if, the USA had, had it's act together at the first signs of trouble would America have as much trouble as it currently has with the organization? The USA should have taken its lead from AU and NEVER, EVER have given this slease organization tax exempt status. That was the first mistake. The second mistake was in not monitoring more closely, an organization already under scrutiny for 'shady' operations. It's third mistake was allowing itself to be intimidated by the organization higher-ups. For those reading this that may not be aware church members have literally INVADED every aspect of American society -- and not all of it is good. There are 'secret' workers working at IRS (the US Internal Revenue [Tax] Service), law enforcement -- various police units, city offices, an expansive legal network, etc. Basically, at the first sign of trouble the organization as a whole would have known about it at a moment's notice. These are the people that could secretly make paperwork 'disappear' or change the wording on documents. Their secret employees or monitors were the invisible internal link that would be able to act on behalf of and subsequently notify Church hierarchy thereby of iminent trouble, thereby ensuring that the Church was able to not only keep one step ahead of the opponents, but also in some respects to dodge as many bullets as it can. Today church members in America conservatively hovers around 40,000. Now do you see the problem America has? Any ideas on how that nation can put the genie back into the bottle?
@myswanktrendz
@myswanktrendz 4 роки тому
Trojanette83 You are right when you stated it started with the tax exempt. Achieving that status made them feel invulnerable and they have been behaving illegally and immorally ever since. I will never understand the appeal of this religion to anyone aside from children forced to grow up in it.
@trojanette8345
@trojanette8345 4 роки тому
@@myswanktrendz Here...here I agree.
@foxyroxy6083
@foxyroxy6083 3 роки тому
Yes we need to pull their tax-exempt status right away
@mindsigh4
@mindsigh4 Рік тому
don't worry, their days are numbered, the internet can be had on any smartphone, the truth can no longer be hidden from even young members who were brought up in Scientoology.
@ellengarcia4041
@ellengarcia4041 Рік тому
This guy is fully informed.
@saracrispi9081
@saracrispi9081 6 років тому
Great interview! Just found this in March 2018. I’ve never been in Scientology but have watched so many videos on UKposts of the strange practices, abuse (both physical, psychological, sexual), how people have died from the abuse (there is a sea org member from FL who died in their care after having a psychological break) & so many other things. Absolutely not with the auditing. Psychologists & psychiatrists have a “patient” / dr. - therapist confidentiality moral compass. It’s quite horrific what it’s said David Miscaviage has said about Tom Cruise’s sex life. This is why Tom is “handled.” Keeping Tom away from mainstream internet is beneficial for Miscaviage.
@carolinelalam7542
@carolinelalam7542 Рік тому
I gather you have watch Leah Remini series by now. It seems like Tom Cruise going on line finding out the truth will not be enough, I doubt he will ever leave this cult. He IS aware of the abuses and he clearly supports it " for the greater good " of this cult.🤔. I believe the only way to get rid of this cult is them losing their status as a "church"... good thing is that they are having a harder time these days recruiting new members.🦋
@bobbycecere1037
@bobbycecere1037 Рік тому
So basically you're sticking with only one side of the story. Most people do that because it's easier
@mindsigh4
@mindsigh4 Рік тому
@@bobbycecere1037 are you a Scientoologist? believe in Scientoology? study Diane-Tics?
@rompevuevitos222
@rompevuevitos222 Рік тому
@@bobbycecere1037 When one side is being physically abusive, that's where the "what if" ends Supporting such an organization is inexcusably evil
@LindseyReed
@LindseyReed Рік тому
@@rompevuevitos222 So you;re opposed to NATO?
@bolaawe66
@bolaawe66 6 років тому
Excellent interview. ❤❤❤
@Joey-dv8hb
@Joey-dv8hb Рік тому
WOW!!! They ruined three different marriages for Tom and Ruined Nicole's children from her and Tom is MORE invested and insane then ever, good job Scientology
@reidun918
@reidun918 Рік тому
Tom decided very much of this himself... He is a narcissist...
@barbarabain4303
@barbarabain4303 Рік тому
great vid, thx !
@oleinspector
@oleinspector Рік тому
Of course they've been "helped". Otherwise all the money scammed would be wasted and smart people don't get scammed into wasting money.
@dianayount2122
@dianayount2122 Рік тому
L Ron Hubbard cured his wounds so completely they weren't included on his war record. (Retro-actively?) Craziness and insulting if you had relatives in the war.
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 Рік тому
Excuse me? Why is this so hard to understand and believe? Scientology is the way!
@prncss4g604
@prncss4g604 5 місяців тому
Thanks for all your fact-finding research and excellent dissertation on the history of Scientology and some of the main points that make it so dangerous for people mostly and thank you for being so objective 0:23 . It was refreshing to listen to you and really get an idea of the facts
@raydraiz1859
@raydraiz1859 Рік тому
This is fascinating!
@electron7373
@electron7373 Рік тому
Nice work Steve!
@jenholmes4033
@jenholmes4033 5 років тому
When u get to OP3 it becomes even weirder Xenu comes into existence hahaha & a great fiction writer. Both Travolta & Cruise have been radicalised into this weird cult sadly.
@timgreenglass
@timgreenglass 4 роки тому
Revolta & Cruise = empty icons
@devin7703
@devin7703 2 роки тому
“OT”
@dasmuss6174
@dasmuss6174 Рік тому
They have dirt on them , that’s why they don’t leave in my opinion, that’s how they operate, watch ‘going clear’, great doco
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Рік тому
@@dasmuss6174 it may not be dirt. It may just be that they revealed private foibles and fears and the foolish habits we all have while being audited. As famous people, they would feel deeply embarrassed at the thought of all that information being splahed over newspapers.
@roncarroll1518
@roncarroll1518 3 роки тому
thank you - insightful
@kat8canary77
@kat8canary77 7 років тому
I have ordered this book and am looking forward to it arriving!
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Рік тому
It's a very interesting book. Also, David Miscavige's father, Ron Miscavige has written a book about watching his son turn into a harsh bully. David is high up in Scientology and is wasting his life on all this foolishness.
@mindsigh4
@mindsigh4 Рік тому
@@tracesprite6078 high up? he's the lead tool of Scientoology
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Рік тому
@@mindsigh4 Yes, and what a waste of his time and energy that job is!
@dennismason3740
@dennismason3740 Рік тому
The notion of unconditional love is seeping into the culture. Scientology withers in the light.
@Orf
@Orf Рік тому
47:00 *****Scientology threatened to sue Assange. 12 years later, JA went on to found WL.
@bluewrenreilly129
@bluewrenreilly129 4 роки тому
Well, Scientology was kicked out of Australia some years ago when I believe Qualified Psychologists here objected to the way they were using psychology. If they had known how they treat children they would've freaked out. They called it a religion to get tax exemptions.
@judepower4425
@judepower4425 4 роки тому
"Kicked out of Australia"? They turned themselves into a church with tax exempt status and still run "drug rehab" centres, one of which is not too far from where I live
@ellengarcia4041
@ellengarcia4041 Рік тому
The Athena School Drummoyne 1998. Now Atena Finance. Who owns that...
@alba4203
@alba4203 Рік тому
Et voilà psicologi e psichiatri pseudo scienza ecco i veri Chi nemici
@HailXenu
@HailXenu 3 місяці тому
They still have active “churches” in Perth, Melbourne and Sydney
@jenholmes4033
@jenholmes4033 5 років тому
Great work Steve keep it up
@donnaparrish7638
@donnaparrish7638 Рік тому
hubbard was a great liar. I know someone who thinks he was hubbard’s bodyguard and is reincarnated to the person he is now and that he was always Sequoyah, the Cherokee who wrote the Cherokee alphabet. You can’t imagine.
@kandicebrown4436
@kandicebrown4436 Рік тому
I think I know why he didn't believe in mental health care .Man was insane .
@reidun918
@reidun918 Рік тому
100% agree!!!!
@leilamagrath40
@leilamagrath40 Рік тому
He is a monster!!! We as human beings have to aware people of this cult so help us god.
@bigdonnie57
@bigdonnie57 Рік тому
I was at the CCLA from 1974 through 1990ish. Yvonne was one of the loveliest people I have yet to meet. Indeed a beautiful Human being.
@johnlinden7398
@johnlinden7398 4 роки тому
SONG OF XENU ! IFYOU KNEW XENU LIKE I KNOW XENU OH. OH, OH WHAT A GREAT CALL, IF YOU KNEW XENU LIKE I KNOW XENU IT'S JUST A LOT OF RIDICULOUS GALL !
@queenslander954
@queenslander954 Рік тому
They wear their Admirals uniforms the other way round , down here.
@zeldacoach2528
@zeldacoach2528 Рік тому
Such a thorough analysis! Steve Kinnane I’ve followed since JJJ, and he’s always kept on. Great article 🫶
@valhenry2154
@valhenry2154 Рік тому
I would say what makes them a religion is not paying tax
@pjj9491
@pjj9491 Рік тому
Watch Leah Reminis series....sick
@sandragill7289
@sandragill7289 4 роки тому
I am now 51 , i was approched by scientolgy in brisbahe city in my early 20's. I had heard of there and said no way... very pushy didnt say who theyI were at first
@malcolmjohnston3227
@malcolmjohnston3227 4 роки тому
They took their Cue a lot from the Mormon 'religion'[excuse for taking multiple wives!). Like L.Ron->Miscavige's TAX FREE INCOME, Smith and then the Utah trekkers wanted multiple wives and the draw that created amongst horny settlers in the gosh-forgotten Utah desert!
@matthewwalker5430
@matthewwalker5430 Рік тому
9:18 "Around Essendon, the first Dianeticist to set up shop was a man named Dosy C**t ..... "
@mistermysteryman107
@mistermysteryman107 2 роки тому
I watch one fucking Scientology video and now this is all I see on my feed
@mifnp8887
@mifnp8887 Рік тому
LOL! 🤣
@mindsigh4
@mindsigh4 Рік тому
amazing how many ex-Scientoologists have podcasts or are being interviewed, etc. i don't want to know anymore than i now know about all the inane jargon & abbreviations that they like to elaborate on ad nauseum, ok, maybe they're venting, but criminey, the minutia is so sleep inducing & in need of a good shiit canning. for an unsane neurotic, El Roy Hubtard sure had an effect on the world, & here we are, still hearing about his bastard prodigy.
@redplanet7163
@redplanet7163 Рік тому
Welcome to the algorithm.
@neen6157
@neen6157 6 років тому
What would happen to all the money if the church did fall? Where would it all go?
@g1a1r1y3
@g1a1r1y3 6 років тому
I've wondered the same too. But what happens to the money depends on how the church falls- doesn't it. If it just withers away, then I guess much of the money will just accrue, probably overseas and out of the reach of the majority of parishioners. But if the church came down because of legal, political, and tax-related issues- things that affect money, then there may not be much of it left at the end. I've also wondered what would happen to all of that real estate.
@myswanktrendz
@myswanktrendz 5 років тому
I wish all the Scientologists in Clearwater would unite and take them to court for Fraud and abuse (the individual stories of being denied care, and empty real estate buildings, fake schools etc.) Force the Cult to liquidate all fixed assets and repay all the parishioners. If the Catholic and Anglican churches liquidated to pay victims, Scientology can be made to do so, also.
@malcolmjohnston3227
@malcolmjohnston3227 4 роки тому
@@myswanktrendz Not exactly the same... 'The Church' is the largest landowner in the world, with most of it's assets protected... but the big difference is that Scientology is defunct now and not expected to be reinvigorated, so Miscavige has to figure out how to transfer everything legally to him without causing a tax problem! Like L.Ron, maybe off-shore accounts...
@myswanktrendz
@myswanktrendz 4 роки тому
@@malcolmjohnston3227 Do you think Miscavige was both smart (and crooked enough) to actually have signatory power over all the Church's real estate? WTH? Who is managing the manager? I'd be demanding answers if I were a Scientologist, while also gathering every crap book/video I was forced to buy and bringing it all back to the centre.
@daveyork0
@daveyork0 4 роки тому
2163 self-declared Scientologist at the last declared Australian census. Not much in a big wide land.
@bigbowlowrong4694
@bigbowlowrong4694 2 роки тому
And who knows how many of those just wrote in Scientology as a joke?
@dasmuss6174
@dasmuss6174 Рік тому
@@bigbowlowrong4694 I wrote ‘Jedi’ once 😂🇦🇺🍻
@lilakscy
@lilakscy 10 місяців тому
Steve Cananne would never even touch a gun so you got no place to talk. You’d fake an injury to get out of service.
@Orf
@Orf 3 роки тому
41:50 University student at the time, David Gerard
@carolyncasey8960
@carolyncasey8960 Рік тому
Plugged by a science fiction editor…. Scientology IS science fiction!
@Orf
@Orf 3 роки тому
48:40 Can they recover? No. I don't think they can.
@paulr.j.rosser2709
@paulr.j.rosser2709 Рік тому
Was that guy referring to Rhys Darby? (15.15secs)
@Orf
@Orf 3 роки тому
46:30 "It is about corporate suppression of the internet and free speech..."
@Orf
@Orf Рік тому
44:00 JA quote on Scientology
@Orf
@Orf 3 роки тому
42:45 University pressures Gerard to take Scientology criticism down
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 Рік тому
Wow
@ljre3397
@ljre3397 Рік тому
At some point this has got to pop. I must admit he was a prolific liar. Quite good at it.
@deadlymouse7033
@deadlymouse7033 Рік тому
Is it the Church and its branch companies that is banned in Australia, or the practice its self? Ive never been quite clear on that.
@aitchgee921
@aitchgee921 Рік тому
I would like to know that too! I had rented to a young woman in Los Angeles who was originally from Melbourne. She came to me a shredded wreck of a woman who had been enslaved by another woman called Phillipa White. After a short while she was drawn back into PW's web. She continued to share her abuse stories and I also witnessed some. She couldnt get away and continued to be "owned" by PW. Some of the things she did/does are actually criminal. PW was not legal in the USA and likely still isnt. Any info on her?
@redplanet7163
@redplanet7163 Рік тому
The decision to ban Scientology was made in Melbourne in 1959. It only ever applied in Victoria. Then it was reversed on appeal and Scientology continued to grow, especially in the 80s and 90s. Since the late 90s it has seen a dramatic decline as the truth about its cult like practices got out. It has very few adherents these days.
@ellengarcia4041
@ellengarcia4041 Рік тому
Athena... have recently started offering FINANCE.. see ads. I worked for the athena school DRUMMOYNE in childcare twenty odd years ago... until I found out it was science... and what I wenr through to get out... OMG. In the eighties thsy were dragging young people into their org near town hall and giving them psychology tests. I was one of them. WTH.
@nga672
@nga672 Рік тому
There is a connection between scientology and the pancake parlour franchise. Has anyone else seen this? I know this from applying for a job there once, and it was really a scientology recruiting exercise. Many years later, I knew the owner of the Canberra pancake parlour who was/is a scientologist.
@nga672
@nga672 Рік тому
@@nemesisfornemo4325 Unfortunately not - I knew instantly that the job interview was ify due to them asking me if I would be willing to be audited if I progressed in the application process. I said no - not for a waitressing job! But it was a time of high unemployment (Melbourne 1980s), and a restaurant full of young people like me was answering a job advertisement in the Age newspaper. The atmosphere was competitive as they interviewed us one by one. The Canberra pancake parlour was definitely run by a Scientologist in the 2000s. I love pancakes, but I've steered clear of these restaurants because I think Scientology is a blight on our society.
@SQUAREise
@SQUAREise Рік тому
I've heard Kate Ceberano mention that she worked there in her teens 🤔
@Miguel195211
@Miguel195211 Рік тому
Vulnerable and weak personalities are prone to follow these fringe groups.
@robertpalladino6276
@robertpalladino6276 2 роки тому
If that was the body he chose to use on this planet I hope he does better on his next visit. Wonder what xenu looks like
@dasmuss6174
@dasmuss6174 Рік тому
I recon Xenu is a talking Guinea Pig, don’t ask me why, it’s just a hunch I have 🤔🇦🇺🍻
@mindsigh4
@mindsigh4 Рік тому
naw man, what are u talking about, El-Roy Hubtard was a stud!🙃
@redplanet7163
@redplanet7163 Рік тому
@@mindsigh4 He had great teeth too 🤣🤣🤣
@Joey-dv8hb
@Joey-dv8hb Рік тому
Travolta should just tell everyone whatever his secrets are, we don't care if he's bisexual, gay, trans, took drugs . John get your daughter and get out of there. Real people still love you no matter what, for real
@ellengarcia4041
@ellengarcia4041 Рік тому
Cant stand
@ernestmarcucella6918
@ernestmarcucella6918 3 роки тому
From what I heard there àre stars in Sciencetology are there regular people who go to Siencetetology.?
@MegaasAlexandros
@MegaasAlexandros 3 роки тому
The majority of the people are regular every day people looking for a purpose in life. The stars are the overwhelming minority.
@LukeHare
@LukeHare 3 роки тому
Australia is not clear of them ; and money trail says it al
@aj225
@aj225 Рік тому
Everyone has a religion. It is what you want to accept as the rationale for you're existence. There can only be one correct answer and you need to decide what that is!
@philcoleman4028
@philcoleman4028 5 років тому
If religion gives you peace thats fine but the same topics seem to resinate regarding religion greed abuse lies and deceit , all hiding by the guise of religion
@CARATMom
@CARATMom Рік тому
I don’t think Scientology is going to die. It should have never lived in the first place. But it did. There are still vulnerable gullible people out there. Many people who left Scientology still believe in it they just don’t like how it is currently being managed. If there is a change in management it will grow again. Scientology just needs a new business model. It is still a cult.
@erpthompsonqueen9130
@erpthompsonqueen9130 Рік тому
Thank you. Would like to know what this person would have to say in updating his analysis.
@thomaspotgieter8801
@thomaspotgieter8801 Рік тому
How did John Travolta pass the test
@lokiva8540
@lokiva8540 Рік тому
In the USA our IRS is itself an extremely criminal scam that's hard to prosecute as such. Flouting that is one of Hubbard's few good points, but that's about institutional corporate business entities given special perks, and used to discriminate against millions with non-institutional personal religions, or functionally equivalent (if not healthier or less insane) personal ethical paths. The other major issue "ordaining clergy" as institutional religious figures does is exemption from licensing requirements to practice Psychology without a state license in most states, in forms very hard to in turn convict for medical malpractice as a very few clergy in other sects have been held. The traditional "free questions" analysis Scientology uses is a fraud, to entice revealing personal info they in turn use for extortion or abusive manipulation into their pyramid scam. I've managed to block one such effort by them when a seriously mentally ill musician and radio personality I knew was targeted, and tried to direct her into other treatment resources (that she ran from -- maybe cult control can help some people, but they're grossly abusive scammers).
@harlcc261
@harlcc261 Рік тому
In other words, Hubbard was such a BSer...
@Orf
@Orf 3 роки тому
43:40 Assange email March 15, 1996
@terracottaneemtree6697
@terracottaneemtree6697 Рік тому
Hubbard's wounded stories, makes me think of John B Thayer III - claiming he jumped in the water off Titanic, stayed in the water over an hour (no hypothermia) and was rescued by Carpathia and got his sketch pad out and sketched the Titanic sinking while on the Carpathia! WTF
@Escylon
@Escylon 4 роки тому
It is April 2020 now and Scientology is still around.
@thatsdebatablewoli8458
@thatsdebatablewoli8458 4 роки тому
Barely. Mainly empty buildings
@nerminodkan401
@nerminodkan401 3 роки тому
It's still around due to covert Digital Marketing & money laundering offshore Accounts staged by Hollywood Magical Celebrity funding of IAS . ( IAS membership unit $$$ set forth via Commodores Messenger Org established by Sea Org : Flagship management by 1975 plan plot to deal with 1977 raid by FBI of Hubbard's Headquarters in U .S main locations , Los Angeles plus Washington DC comprised of " The Guardian's Offices " of Mary Sue Hubbard ( Hubbard's 3rd wife ) and Hubbard himself as Source Founder of " Operation Technical Corporation " ( OTC - OTO ) for profit $$ Racketeering Organized MLM, Bridge to Totalitarian Hell 😂
@juehlwillis4699
@juehlwillis4699 3 роки тому
How Scary is that!!!
@Orf
@Orf 3 роки тому
41:15 Julian Assange on Scientology
@maclein7013
@maclein7013 3 роки тому
Ron was rather cool whilste Myskawidje is rather tough,is it!?
@nerminodkan401
@nerminodkan401 5 років тому
👍
@richardsaga7559
@richardsaga7559 Рік тому
Its horrible. I was horrifically abused growing up. I wss put on meds and disability. I tried to get off my mrds and off of disability through scientology. The mental health system is alive so is scientology.
@richardsaga7559
@richardsaga7559 Рік тому
@Bobby Taylor thanks for responding. I'm back on my meds and I'm still stressed out. I'm so alone. And I suffer from chronic pain.
@richardsaga7559
@richardsaga7559 Рік тому
@Bobby Taylor thanks
@t.s9831
@t.s9831 Рік тому
I wonder how Rex died... rip 🙏
@BettinaAscaino
@BettinaAscaino 2 роки тому
I’m way older than 18 yrs old but have been searching for info the last couple of days and did find some horror stories but many second hand stories just used for clicks. I soon realised that for the first time, various search engines were not delivering results as usual. I did come across this interview, but after I had been looking for hours. I agree with Julian Assange. Utter BS
@I-_-I_SB
@I-_-I_SB 4 роки тому
She’s the cutest absolutely wonderful. \-_-/
@realalldway-raw4996
@realalldway-raw4996 3 роки тому
Truth only is given by God. When you know the truth nothing will bother you in life. To be in the light makes you see life.
@othername1000
@othername1000 Рік тому
The ABC, Late Line, the X-files. All of these sound vaguely familiar. How did they appear in Australia? Well I mean I guess they changed one letter. And added a "The" somewhere else. But they've got plenty of those because they've chopped them all off of phrase "the hospital".
@mindsigh4
@mindsigh4 Рік тому
ive noticed in US they started yrs ago with tv ads selling baby products, instead of saying,'' made for your baby, or, for the baby" they'd say," Gerbers, a name u can trust for baby, etc." or Johnson & Johnson," safe for baby'' eliminating THE.
@othername1000
@othername1000 Рік тому
@@mindsigh4 "Your search - "Gerber name u can trust for baby" - did not match any documents" ETA: I missed the plural. "Your search - "gerbers a name u can trust for baby" - did not match any documents" ETA more: Your search - "Johnson & Johnson safe for baby" - did not match any documents. Suggestions: Make sure all words are spelled correctly. Try different keywords. Try more general keywords
@mrsfloridablue54
@mrsfloridablue54 7 років тому
Awe come'on I'm sure there are alot more "beavers"? in Auburn ;). Or is that "Beibers" ?? ;)
@krissee6961
@krissee6961 Рік тому
Look what's happening to Julian Assange now..is this related?
@FishRepair
@FishRepair Рік тому
Rex beaver. Bad Ass P.I
@James_Bowie
@James_Bowie Рік тому
L Ron Hubbard went to his cupboard To fetch his poor doggy a bone When he got there The cupboard weren't bare He found two male actors, well-known.
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