Bigger JWST for Starship, Day on A Gas Planet, Real Science Gatekeepers | Q&A 256

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Why don't they just build a bigger version of James Webb for Starship? What's the pressure inside Europa's oceans? How can you measure a day on a planet without a surface? Answering all these questions and more in this week's question show.
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00:00 Start
00:26 [Andoria] What's the pressure in Europa's ocean?
04:45 [Vulcan] Should they build another JWST for the Starship?
09:53 [Risa] How long is a day on a gas planet?
13:45 [Aeturen] How does a total solar eclipse look like from the Moon?
16:17 [Vendikar] Suggestions for backyard telescope hobbyists
24:16 [Remus] Who are the real science gatekeepers?
28:05 [Janus] What would I do differently for the next eclipse?
30:55 [Cait] Phone apps with sky overlay
33:12 [Betazed] How will Japan's pressurised rover keep dust from the inside?
37:06 [Cheleb] What effects can a gamma ray burst have on Earth?
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 491
@GizzyDillespee
@GizzyDillespee 9 днів тому
You misunderstood the question about witnessing an eclipse from the moon. I'm fairly sure they meant what would it look like if you were on the moon, and the Earth blocked the sun. That's the only scenario in which the question, "How long would totality last?" would make sense.
@arnelilleseter4755
@arnelilleseter4755 9 днів тому
That was my thoughts too. In that case it would be what we see as a lunar eclipse. Earth would be larger in the sky compared to the Moon from our perspective, and the Earth has an atmosphere, so it would not look the same as a solar eclipse on Earth. But still pretty spectacular I imagine.
@BrianKCrawford
@BrianKCrawford 9 днів тому
I was thinking the same thing. He did say a solar eclipse, which means something passes in front of the sun. On the moon, it would be the Earth. Or a terran eclipse. It might be spectacular.
@FairyWeatherMan
@FairyWeatherMan 9 днів тому
You might be right!. A solar eclipse from the Moon is a lunar eclipse from our point of view here on Earth. So, Unlike solar eclipses, a total lunar eclipse lasts a few hours, with totality itself usually averaging anywhere from about 30 minutes to over an hour. This is due to the large relative size of Earth over the Moon (the Moon's diameter is about 1/4 of Earth's), therefore casting a larger shadow on the Moon. From the moon you could probably appreciate some features of Earth atmosphere that you usually don't spot from the windows of your lunar home!
@biancabonet
@biancabonet 8 днів тому
Whoa. Would be so dark. We need a simulation of totality while on the moon. Better have lots of energy storage for those missing sum rays.
@alexjustalex_
@alexjustalex_ 7 днів тому
Yes indeed! 😅 I concur my question wasn't very clear! I hope they get to do take 2 of answering the question!
@bertdemeulemeester
@bertdemeulemeester 9 днів тому
For those wondering. A dobsonian telescope is better known in Europe as a Newtonian telescope or mirror telescope
@DavidTremblay
@DavidTremblay 9 днів тому
Dobsonian refers to the mount - which is an alt-az - not the optical part. But yes all dobsonian are Newtonian optical design
@FatemaFantom
@FatemaFantom 9 днів тому
Ah yes 2am the night before school...I MUST watch
@EricEstesEleutherian
@EricEstesEleutherian 9 днів тому
Priorities kiddo ;)
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 9 днів тому
more useful than school anyway
@homairi79
@homairi79 9 днів тому
at least you not posting your ass on tick tock. Keep watching kid!
@RawSpaceVideos
@RawSpaceVideos 9 днів тому
Bring on the Double Hubble!
@EricEstesEleutherian
@EricEstesEleutherian 9 днів тому
The future of space astronomy has me super friggin excited :D
@Cosmoselementary
@Cosmoselementary 9 днів тому
Fraser! Thank you so much for the shout out! I didn't even believe it at first when I saw a comment about it! I really really appreciate it!
@frasercain
@frasercain 9 днів тому
No problem , keep up the good work!
@odd_bird
@odd_bird 8 днів тому
Хэллоу, Эндрю с ченнела Козмос Элементари 😅 🌍🟰📀
@Cosmoselementary
@Cosmoselementary 8 днів тому
@@frasercain I definitely will!
@pilotnamealreadytaken6035
@pilotnamealreadytaken6035 6 днів тому
Q q​@@odd_bird
@mustatuuli1
@mustatuuli1 9 днів тому
Why don't they build landers that can land in any orientation and then right themselves? Having your expensive space machine tip over at the last moment is just soul-crushing.
@jamesfowley4114
@jamesfowley4114 9 днів тому
Somebody is probably working on that.
@just_archan
@just_archan 9 днів тому
Weight limitations. And limitations on size. Landing legs main purpose is to absorb shock of landing. Also that are as stable as it gets so they should be wide. Most of legs are expandable. MAIN reason of tipping those Landers is horizontal velocity. It's hard to assess low horizontal velocity without points of orientation, and GPS. Apollo astronauts got very good instrument for that called eyeball 1.0. but there is problem with current algorithms for robotic missions to assess this speed in many cases. "Off the shelf" solutions like Doppler radars etc are simply expensive AND heavy. So companies are trying to figure it out without this equipment, as in place of this hardware, that can take another experiment. They will figure this out, or Starship will make that obsolete as will greatly reduce weight/size limitations
@charleslivingston2256
@charleslivingston2256 9 днів тому
They did that for one of the Mars landers. It was surrounded by inflated bladders with hexagonal covers. After bouncing and rolling to a stop, it would open the covers and deflate the bladders in a particular order, such that it would end up right side up.
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 6 днів тому
@@just_archan I agree. weight and space limitations of the launch rocket. Cost vs benefit - More weight to science experiments or landing mechanics and the novel apporatice like @charleslivingston2256 mentions or bigger launch rocket for the larger lander size
@t.a.r.s4982
@t.a.r.s4982 8 днів тому
Thx again, your show is so unfairly underrated! According to me it's one of the best of its kind, you deserve so much more audience!
@aldentindall9688
@aldentindall9688 9 днів тому
Please Fraser, if you did a series on making a cheap Dobsonian we would all be eternally grateful. There aren’t many good videos, and I would love to watch you do it and learn!
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 6 днів тому
I member seeing a number of shows aboot making the mirrors. I think a sky at night episode showed it. Rubbing 2 piece's of material together will make both the convex and concave mirror's at the same time.
@montyiscool11
@montyiscool11 9 днів тому
Thank you for the piece on backyard telescopes!!!
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 9 днів тому
"If you'd asked a planetary scientist 5 years ago, they'd respond 'I don't know.'" "This was discovered in 2019." Time really is flying, ain't it, Fraser? (I mean, it may have been discovered in the second half of 2019…)
@jmcgregor316
@jmcgregor316 6 днів тому
Your newsletters, podcasts and youtube posts are simply incredible. I fail to see how you can amass this body of knowledge and package it so well in a form that is so accessible to laypersons. Thank you!
@frasercain
@frasercain 6 днів тому
Thanks a lot, I'm glad you're enjoying it all.
@DanBennett
@DanBennett 8 днів тому
I fell in love with space, stars, planets and Moons as a child. I this fellow Canadian loves your work. Thank you!!!
@Quisique
@Quisique 9 днів тому
1. Are the gas giants just heavy 'rocky' planets with really thick atmosphere? 2. If not, what is the planet mass threshhold (or any other way) to tell if a planet is a gas or ice giant or rocky/ocean world with really thick atmosphere? Can there theoretically be a planet that is difficult to classify?
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 6 днів тому
I would guess the simple answer would be -- We don't know yet -- I think that was 1 of Juno's missions too try and map the internal structure of Jupiter by studying the gravity and magnetic field
@Xostrich12X
@Xostrich12X 9 днів тому
I just checked out the cosmos elementary channel you plugged and I’m blown away. I can’t believe it has only that many subscribers. It’s perfect. Thanks for the recommendation. I have a lot of videos to binge now
@tonisee2
@tonisee2 8 днів тому
I admire your passion when you're talking about the telescopes for skywatching etc! I have been very often asked similar questions ... and I found couple of great points from your answer I haven't thought in that way. Thank you for another interesting Q&A session!
@RogerM88
@RogerM88 9 днів тому
I'd go easy on the hype. In my opinion, besides Starlink missions for commercial applications, Starship could be a huge flop, because it cargo hull doesn't maximize the use of available space, in comparative with a standard payload fairing. Add to that the additional complexity to load and deploy the cargo, as the questionable real payload capabilities.
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 9 днів тому
I also have reservations aboot it. At the worse case it could be ditched because it's taking too long and/or cost too much, 1 of the drawbacks of private for profit company's. A pet peeve I have about that is when the technologies and advancements are usually locked away in Copyrights and patents even thou public tax money payed for the R&D.
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 9 днів тому
@@RectalRooter Newsflash: StarShip development (all $10B up till now) is paid for by SpaceX, not NASA. SpaceX got $3B for developing the HLS version of Starship, that's all. Don't believe me? Google it. It's all there. Starship is a cool way for NASA to hitch a ride with SpaceX, which has Mars as the ultimate goal.
@arnelilleseter4755
@arnelilleseter4755 9 днів тому
I don't think it would take much to build a version of Starship that has a more traditional fairing, or that opens in a way that maximizes the available space.
@RogerM88
@RogerM88 9 днів тому
@@arnelilleseter4755 It could compromise the structural integrity at reentry. As additional weight due to structural reinforcements.
@vincewilson1
@vincewilson1 9 днів тому
@@RectalRooterElon Musk and Space X are paying for the bulk of the R&D.
@TheEducat0r
@TheEducat0r 8 днів тому
Mind officially blown! Can't wait to see what discoveries await us with the bigger JWST and the prospect of exploring gas giants. Science never fails to amaze!
@rafsoverflow
@rafsoverflow 8 днів тому
Oh man these are some amazing questions, please keep doing videos like this! You are the best at explaining anything related to space!
@shashilwow
@shashilwow 9 днів тому
Thanks for answering my question! 😀
@billionsandbillionsofstars
@billionsandbillionsofstars 5 днів тому
I’m a hardcore backyard amateur visual astronomer and I’m obsessed. My telescope is a Celestron 8 inch go-to which cost $1500 and it was worth every penny.
@Qrul
@Qrul 9 днів тому
Andoria. This is a question I have asked myself every since they talked about exploring the possible ocean there. (and how to get down to it and communicate the finds to the surface and back to earth, interesting stuff)
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 6 днів тому
I agree. Talking aboot science and technology get's people minds brewing with ideas
@bbbenj
@bbbenj 9 днів тому
A huge thanks to you and your team.
@muleskinnerfilms6719
@muleskinnerfilms6719 9 днів тому
Well done as always!!!
@Thisandthat8908
@Thisandthat8908 9 днів тому
we had this idea with Parker solar probe and the then new Falcon heavy. Putting a multi (multi) billion$ spacecraft on a new, sapcecraft would be just madness. Ariane 5, which launched JWST, is very expensive but has a very nearly spotless record. Starship will have to get to that point first.
@djj949
@djj949 9 днів тому
Always love your vids
@simonjennings5458
@simonjennings5458 9 днів тому
thankyou great show...i use stellarium app as a visual aid when doing astrophotography with a dslr and 300mm lens i basically take a pic of roughly where a nebula should be then fine tune my targetting by visually platesolving my image
@CocoaBeachLiving
@CocoaBeachLiving 9 днів тому
On the question of a backyard telescope rig, I built a roll on/roll off roof observatory for a celestron edge HD 11" and all the accessories for astrophotography for about 8000 dollars. So you are right on for the costs. I did this back in 2012, so maybe 10k is about right today.
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 9 днів тому
Wow That sounds pretty cool.. Go big or go Home 👍
@nman2563
@nman2563 21 годину тому
About the backyard telescope advice I'd mostly agree with you except there is a gamechanger in town: The ZWO Seestar S50. For $500 it will show you stuff you cannot see with a large dobsonian, and you can share the stacked images since they are on your phone. You can only buy a starter six inch Dobsonian for the same price. If you build your own dobsinian it is going to cost you quite a bit more than $100. Basic mirrors are not cheap anymore, and you need some more parts such as secondary mirrors, holders, focusers, eyepieces, etc.
@stevenflint6864
@stevenflint6864 6 днів тому
My vote is for Andoria. Great question, great answer.
@agentdarkboote
@agentdarkboote 9 днів тому
Risa, this is so cool, I had never learned about this before!
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 2 дні тому
Treating an eclipse like a heist is a clever way to describe it. 👍
@dennisshaw7153
@dennisshaw7153 9 днів тому
I learned my constellations the old fashioned way but still love the phone apps. They track just about every conceivable object and can show you exactly where in the constellation it is. Also it is fun to look down through the earth and see where the sun is along with other objects. I highly recommend the phone apps.
@notmyname327
@notmyname327 5 днів тому
I loved the suggestions for backyard astronomers and the bit about overlay sky apps. I'm looking forward to owning my first dobsonian, even though I live in an apartment building in a big city and I'm dreading going up the stairs with a heavy telescope, I still believe it's the best option for a beginner like me.
@camplays487
@camplays487 9 днів тому
One thing to give the sky tracker apps credit for is showing how much debris there already is in space, there’s a first stage booster that’s constantly zooming across my night sky and that’s cool historically but also sad that our pollution knows no bounds
@nadyan9525
@nadyan9525 5 днів тому
You CAN also do astrophotography with a DSLR (or mirrorless system) and a regular tripod, too. You don't actually NEED the tracking mount. I learned last week how to image the Orion Nebula (it's what everyone starts with, right?) with my Panasonic G9 and 100-400mm lens, and a shoddy old tripod. Whether you have a tracking mount and take, say, a bunch of 30-second exposures at a time, or if you take a few hundred 1-second exposures at a time, while also pausing to adjust focus and re-align your camera to your object (it moves quickly!) the intake of light is the same, because you can later stack your exposures! For me as a photographer, realising that i have had gear good enough to do some astrophotography this entire time, and the secret was in image stacking and processing, blew my mind.
@frasercain
@frasercain 4 дні тому
Hah, yeah, but the mount isn't that expensive compared to the gear you already have. :-)
@IARRCSim
@IARRCSim 9 днів тому
17:24 I'm glad my telescopes aren't that bent out of shape. That one looks almost as twisted as Homer Simpson's spice rack. It would be very interesting if stars still looked sharp through the eyepiece like that.
@FrancisFjordCupola
@FrancisFjordCupola 9 днів тому
Vendikar. Make people enthusiastic about getting out there!
@BonsaiTreeDragon
@BonsaiTreeDragon 9 днів тому
I saw the eclipse from southeastern Missouri. It was amazing
@thomasfholland
@thomasfholland 7 днів тому
It would be really awesome to be on the surface of the moon during the total lunar eclipse!! Imagine seeing the light from ALL of the sunrises and sunsets all around the earth all at the same time!! 🤩🤩🤩
@fazergazer
@fazergazer 9 днів тому
Thanks!
@ajctrading
@ajctrading 9 днів тому
Multiple 1- 2 metre telescopes, all in constellations like one of your great guests proposed Fraser, seems like a great way to go. Could have tens, hundreds or eventually thousands working together . Would be enough to directly image earth size planets within 50 light years of earth.
@HKLabs-tech
@HKLabs-tech 9 днів тому
I beg to differ with your answer about gatekeepers. While the ability to learn and do science on your own is impossible to gate keep, the wealthy owners of the various scientific journals, putting them behind paywalls with a steep membership cost, prevent many from accessing information that should be freely available to all. Also, those that look down on the 'uneducated' scientists, that may not be researching under a big name university or other science organization. That was my take on the question being asked.
@Quickshot0
@Quickshot0 8 днів тому
The journals blocking access is by many considered more of a problem really, it's undesirable really as the scientists themselves have to pay to get their articles in a journal as well. This is why a number of new journals got started that are open access and paid entirely once again by scientist contributions, rather then this very deleterious profit seeking big publishers have made of it. One can also get many perhaps not entirely polished articles for free via arxiv, that holds many pre-print articles these days. And of course there is the potentially more questionable legal approach, though I suspect many scientists would be fine with people using that to get the knowledge that should really be free to all. Beyond that, I'm not sure who those who look down on 'uneducated' scientists even are. Truthfully the statement doesn't really make sense as you'd have to have educated yourself in some way to be able to do anything. Be this working from the ground up from scratch, or finding the material and reading it yourself. Perhaps you mean the difference between scientists and amateur scientists? And I guess on average it is expected that amateur scientists do less well, but a fair few have succeeded as well with their discoveries incorporated in the general knowledge, because well in the end what matters in actual results. Status is for people who play social games after all and knowledge is just knowledge. Now admittedly my answer here is on the idealistic side, and I am aware there are probably a fair few... more elitist types out there that have more problematic views. But I personally view them as more of the ones who are actually falling short of what a scientists should be. People who are curious and trying to learn and discover is just what science really is about really.
@bjornfeuerbacher5514
@bjornfeuerbacher5514 8 днів тому
You can find lots of preprints of papers which are published behind a paywall, freely available in the ArXiv.
@7heHorror
@7heHorror 9 днів тому
Remus! Enjoyably open-ended question intersecting my other addiction (politics). Thanks for recommending Cosmoselementary, I'd not heard of them.
@miscbits6399
@miscbits6399 2 дні тому
Webb was a big challenge because launches are expensive and inflight rendezvous is hard A decade before launch it was already clear that it would already be cheaper to scrap it and start over - long before Starship, but "sunk cost fallacies" kick in
@Starshooter216
@Starshooter216 5 днів тому
Andoria, Vulcan, Risa, Aeturen, Vendikar, (the cheapest way to see all of the stuff through a telescope is get online, plenty of places to view the moon ect. is better than you can with your own) Remus, Janus, Cait, Betazed, Cheleb.
@JAGzilla-ur3lh
@JAGzilla-ur3lh 9 днів тому
Cait. Good basic astronomy question, good fair answer. The technology is great, but only if it's used in a smart, responsible way that actually benefits the user. It doesn't replace the human brain! Don't forget that, or you'll... forget that, I guess. Betazed was the runner up. I didn't realize until recently, via this channel, what a big challenge lunar regalith poses to astronauts.
@sheldoniusRex
@sheldoniusRex 9 днів тому
I'm fortunate enough to live in Missouri during the last two eclipses. So it was just a three hour drive to find a city park in some small town no one has ever heard of where I could picnic with my family.
@jf4500
@jf4500 7 днів тому
Regarding “Starship telescopes”, how about putting a relatively simple design into low rate production, and clustering them on-orbit around a central core? SpaceX is developing the ability to refuel via side-by-side docking. Once they have the docking perfected, you build a telescope-specific Starship that has multiple docking ports around its circumference. Keep adding Starship telescopes to the core with the telescopes having enough adjustment range to bring them all into fine alignment. Have the instrument payload and battery/computer/reaction wheels palletized so that a Canadarm-style robot can remove/install them.
@leonmusk1040
@leonmusk1040 9 днів тому
Missed the last live show by minutes was so gutted just got there in time to hear Fraser signing out. Gutted was still a good time had a chat with Ceres before it all closed up :)
@chris-terrell-liveactive
@chris-terrell-liveactive 7 днів тому
Andoria, that's a question I've considered too. I suspect that pressure probably exceeding the bottom of the Marianas trench will create some extreme chemical conditions, maybe giving the sort of issues faced by deep drilling equipment. Will I live to see the results of any successful expeditions there? In any case, I hope the mission goes ahead.
@DavidSmith-rt1mr
@DavidSmith-rt1mr 8 днів тому
a 8in dobsonian is what i bought and love it, granted i can go into the mountains and get some really great views.
@EamonnLawler
@EamonnLawler 7 днів тому
Something like SpiderFab with a trusselator would be amazing. It might be possible to make something light and HUGE in orbit. But forget sun shields and high hain antenna collectors, lets make a big smiley face...cheer everyone up! 🙂
@denysvlasenko1865
@denysvlasenko1865 6 днів тому
An unmanned underwater craft for high pressures is not exceedingly difficult to design. They are designed to have no air/gas pockets at all, there are no "insides". For example, electronics can be completely flooded by an epoxy and the like.
@ciaala
@ciaala 9 днів тому
Betazed: Would love a full recap for the following Artemis missions.
@savetheplantet5799
@savetheplantet5799 8 днів тому
Celestron skymaster pro 15x70 are absolutely amazing. Such immersive views. I have an 8"dob, and a 5" eq reflector. Binos are num 1 for me. At least until I have tracking mounts for the scopes and move on to astrophotography. If I even do lol. Simple observing is ALOT less work!
@DanBennett
@DanBennett 8 днів тому
Vulcan Yes please & thank you.
@jaimeduncan6167
@jaimeduncan6167 9 днів тому
Very good tip for the dobsodians a lot bang for the buck. For the Astro photographers a good option, seems to me, are the Catadioptric. The only advantage of the robotic telescopes is they are more compact and a little less expensive if you don't have a camera already. But the image quality will be far better.
@denysvlasenko1865
@denysvlasenko1865 6 днів тому
Starship's expendable variant can have a fairing wider than 9 meters. 12 or 14 meters is doable. To maximize the area, the telescope craft can be designed to not need the fairing - the walls of the spacecraft can be the "fairing", and then you only need a nosecone for aerodynamics. We don't currently have a capability to build monolithic mirrors 9 meters or larger. Segmented mirrors can be larger, but they have worse PSFs. So, ~8m class space telescope is currently the best we can do.
@frasercain
@frasercain 6 днів тому
That's pretty much the gist of what I was suggesting. An 8m newtonian-type telescope inside a 9m fairing. Get bigger and more complicated in the future.
@CodyBrumfield1
@CodyBrumfield1 9 днів тому
I got the biggest dobsonian I could afford because I really liked the idea of seeing things with my own eyes. I tried getting into astrophotography but I didn’t have as much fun as I expected. I remember watching the dust storm on Mars and I enjoyed seeing it happen more than I enjoyed playing with a DSLR. But I’m grateful others do astrophotography.
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 9 днів тому
1 of the funnies on the live chat was aboot Fraser being in the pocket of Big Dob hahaha
@Andre_XX
@Andre_XX 9 днів тому
For the one in Australia in July 2028 you should consider the north eastern part of Western Australia. The weather is usually perfect at that time of year. However there is only one sizeable town up there, Kununarra, which is not very big anyway. It has an airport with a few scheduled flights a day. If you take the trouble to go there, make sure to include a visit to the Bungle Bungles too (yes there is such a place!). Go with a tour group. The road in is not for the faint-hearted. A flight over the Wolfe Creek meteorite crater might also be worthwhile. The road to it is also terrible.
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 9 днів тому
The live chat Q&A was fun. I'm honored Fraser showed us the Legendary Colored Squares of Turin. It's entertaining and still learn stuff. Chat members help correct a misunderstanding I had thinking White Dwarfs and Neutron stars were the same thing. Turns out there not.
@mshepard2264
@mshepard2264 9 днів тому
I use the stellarium app. It helps especially if you are in a location with a-lot of light pollution. Sometimes its hard to identify a constellation if you cant see half the stars.
@michaelford1358
@michaelford1358 9 днів тому
I would think that a lot of the research for JWST would carry over to a larger folding version. It would still cost more than just launching a Hubble style telescope but it would be 100 times better for science and learning more about the universe.
@anthonycook6213
@anthonycook6213 8 днів тому
The diameter of single mirrors is about 8 meters due to transportation considerations. There is no size limit to segmented mirror designs. The advantage of Starship is not cheaper telescopes, but much larger segmented telescopes, launched cheaply.
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx 9 днів тому
Another option for a space telescope: We can do what we have learned from radio telescopes. Launch two or more identical big telescopes. Let them orbit in synchronized formation. Together, they will work as one huge mirror, like Keck in Hawaii.
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 6 днів тому
Do you mean the Event Horizon Telescope used for the blackhole images -- But in Space ? Radio interferometry
@denysvlasenko1865
@denysvlasenko1865 5 днів тому
Optical/IR interferometry is much harder than radio. Radio interferometry combines signals digitally (by recording them on individual telescopes and processing them by large specialized computers). It's infeasible for visible/IR (~1000 times higer frequency means 1000 times more data) and I think we can't even record signal's phase in optical/IR, only the amplitude, so we lose the information needed for digital interferometry. Optical/IR interferometry can only be done "in analog", combining the actual signals (not their recordings). This requires exceptional precision in positioning and many mirrors in optical paths, which leads to loss of more than 90% of the signal.
@weywey3318
@weywey3318 9 днів тому
You have a wonderful channel.
@keithwagg4112
@keithwagg4112 7 днів тому
You should all come to the Australian Eclipse, we have the best sky at night as well as the eclipse, you can go watch it in the desert where there will be no clouds too.
@formarosastudio
@formarosastudio 9 днів тому
Thank you! Betazed 🎉 follow on for this question: ive been thinking a lot about how gravity on mars affects the density of rocks and their formation- any discoveries so far?
@nerufer
@nerufer 9 днів тому
@FraserCain just a thought on the Andoria pressure on Europa question; If you would drill a hole in the ice and reach the liquid ocean, wouldn't the pressure instantly create a geyser and blow a lot of liquid out the drilled hole? (untill the hole is frozen shut again). Wouldn't that impede a submarine-probe robot (or even sampleing probe) from getting into the liquid portion?
@kiikaala
@kiikaala 7 днів тому
Andoria is the best guestion in many weeks.
@marknovak6498
@marknovak6498 9 днів тому
Beyond about 21,000 feet you start getting to the point where fish are not found. Hadrean dept is the term but not readily available in google.
@roycsinclair
@roycsinclair 8 днів тому
Keep the design for the telescope simple and build a DOZEN of them to launch in individual Starships. That will be enough to allow a lot more simultaneous observations of many more objects and pointing several of them at the same object will allow additive observations of individual objects. Even with Starship as a throwaway, a dozen simpler telescopes could cost less to launch than the James Webb complex telescope. Still I also like the idea of building an even larger telescope in orbit as well. Both of those could and should be pursued as more telescopes would allow a lot more observations to be done at the same time. The one I am truly waiting for is to have another servicing mission for the Hubble telescope with an eventual plan to pull it back down for a museum once there's enough better telescopes in orbit that it's no longer really needed.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 днів тому
Yeah, I really like this. Keep it simple and reliable and get big mirrors into space. Dobsonian space telescopes. :-)
@spoddie
@spoddie 9 днів тому
The July 2028 eclipse would be good for photography. Most of that path is inaccessible and hostile desert, but it will be winter so mild weather and very likely clear skies.
@GrouchyHaggis
@GrouchyHaggis 9 днів тому
Cait - I'll admit I use Stelarium and SkyEye to figure out which satellites I just saw pass over, but when it comes to stars and objects, I do prefer to find them myself.
@NOM-X
@NOM-X 7 днів тому
Also, in regards to the Lunar dust. There is a static charge that eliminates, or takes the Lunar dust off of the suit. Its been tested, and found to be added to the suit, and craft. I don't have the link, but I know its legit. - Will
@Kris_Lighthawk
@Kris_Lighthawk 9 днів тому
Even if you know the constellations well, phone apps are still great for keeping track of where the planets are.
@steverobbins4872
@steverobbins4872 9 днів тому
The simple telescope idea (basically a big mirror and a tube) could use a collapsible tube, so you could make into a big disk-shaped package, and then stack a bunch of them line Starlink satellites. So, not just "simple" but produced in quantity.
@alexjustalex_
@alexjustalex_ 7 днів тому
13:46 OMG I'm so sorry! My question wasn't that clear 😅 I meant: standing on the Moon, what would it be like when the *Earth* passes in front of the Sun, creating a total solar eclipse from the perspective of the person on the Moon (Earth being in between). In other words: a total lunar eclipse as we know it creates a total *solar* eclipse if you stand on the Moon; I'm interested in that.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 днів тому
Oh, you see the Earth pass in front of the Sun. At totality, everything turns red around you and you see a red ring around the Earth. You're seeing sunsets from the entire Earth.
@Spedley_2142
@Spedley_2142 8 днів тому
I think one of the big changes Starship will bring is the logistics of low cost to orbit. Rather than build a $billion telescope Starship makes if feasible to make them much cheaper with much shorter lives and regular updates. James Webb was an all the eggs in one basket approach but with Starship progress will be different.
@frasercain
@frasercain 8 днів тому
Or retrieve them and upgrade and maintain them on Earth.
@1974lionsfan
@1974lionsfan 9 днів тому
An 8" dob is great for beginners and really cheap. Its what got me obsessed with size😂
@DarrenPoulson
@DarrenPoulson 8 днів тому
Something I've wondered how easy it would be to do for an amateur astronomer is to see if we can get enough parallax in stars to calculate their distance. Probably only possible with the nearest ones of course, but it'd be interesting to take two observations 6 months apart to get a wide base for the triangle.
@plot1184
@plot1184 9 днів тому
I remember the eclipse in August 11th, 1999. I was on vacation in Switzerland and had quickly drive from one mountain pass to another one because the spot I chose went under clouds just before the eclipse hit. Unfortunately I only got the latter part of the eclipse to see. I plan to visit the 2039 eclipse in Mo i Rana in Norway. Lots of time to plan 😅
@dustinsnodgress8026
@dustinsnodgress8026 3 дні тому
For the pressure in the water on Europa, do your estimation account for the ice being a ridged structure that might decrease the pressure? But also, ice expands with water freezes, so would possibly increase the pressure? Or are those parameters negligible given the thickness of the ice?
@PeterC-fy1ys
@PeterC-fy1ys 9 днів тому
First! Thanks for the vid Fraser!
@colebutler6535
@colebutler6535 8 днів тому
i remember my first time spotting andromeda it was definitely one of my proudest moments😂
@averyjeromekelly5735
@averyjeromekelly5735 7 днів тому
Everlasting Love Solaris
@kolbyking2315
@kolbyking2315 9 днів тому
Starship will probably be weight-limited for "simple" Hubble-style LEO telescopes. V1 ~ 4.3m, V2 ~ 5.6m, V3 ~ 7.5m. For JWST-styles, even starship v1 can get 13m to L2, so it's size-limited.
@savetheplantet5799
@savetheplantet5799 8 днів тому
Stellarium will make it stick! Fantastic app
@geanozz8940
@geanozz8940 9 днів тому
Question........Europa is tidally locked but is it possible that it's core is spinning as the layers between the ice and core is liquid ? Does this mean it would have currents that feed the "possible" life underneath the ice ?
@kylecordes
@kylecordes 9 днів тому
If Starship only worked as well as the most recent test flight, it would be enough for the launches being contemplated here. Fully expended, of course, and you'd need to put an additional stage in the payload area with the telescope to move it to its proper position.
@benedictmarshall7031
@benedictmarshall7031 9 днів тому
Instead of stuffing a telescope inside a 9m faring on Starship - why not fit a full-width telescope with rockets and a detachable conical cap (as is Starship). That way, the entire width could be used.
@TheDreamDoer
@TheDreamDoer 9 днів тому
Seven of them! You just need 7 Starships to launch a Giant Magellan sized observatory. Tune it down to FAR IR, like Spitzer, and launch aboard a fleet.
@fep_ptcp883
@fep_ptcp883 8 днів тому
Imagine the nice eclipse witnessed from the desert in Australia
@CristyS89
@CristyS89 9 днів тому
Risa. definitely Risa
@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475
@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 8 днів тому
...But there are "science gatekeepers". Ask anyone trying to publish any truly novel science ideas who didn't waste their education time at an "approved" "ivy" university. Avi Loeb regularly publishes substandard work, while people at other universities can't get their research past the referees. It's a Big Donor $$$ filter. This also applies to non-U.S. countries trying to publish in journals. Also, there's a tremendous amount of funding "gatekeeping" that prevents research from being done in the first place.
@p0tatobiden250
@p0tatobiden250 8 днів тому
Somebody gets it and there are other "incentives" for what gets published, gatekeepers did c0vfefe, right!? 🤷
@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475
@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 8 днів тому
@@p0tatobiden250 There's tremendous "gatekeeping" by endowments and billionaire donors to private "Ivy" universities, including who gets tenure and is allowed to do research in the first place. Anyone claiming there isn't "gatekeeping" in academia has never done cutting edge research or tried to fund research that someone else couldn't figure out how to profit off. The U.S. acedemic institutions are an absolute mess, funded by billionaires with ideological agendas who care more about their ideology than science or discovery.
@NOM-X
@NOM-X 7 днів тому
What effects of the eclipse have on the Moon when in that type of Sunlight, and solar emissions? Do you think it will help, or damage the Moon in any way? Thanks for the episode. - Will
@trignals
@trignals 9 днів тому
Question: Is starship already flight proven in a disposable flight profile? If not what was missing from IFT-3?
@fxarts9755
@fxarts9755 9 днів тому
If we already disposing of starship we could widen the upper stage by at least 2m. Like some of the renders for a fuel depot show. And just build the telescopeinto it. Similarly how f9 faring widens. So maybe even a 10-11m mirror would be possible without much/ expensive modifications
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 6 днів тому
Do you mean something like how Skylab was the upper stage of the Saturn V
@hipser
@hipser 9 днів тому
They may have meant a solar eclipse of the earth from the moon - which I would love to hear your description of.
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