Young guns the best movie ever about Billy the kid

I read everything I can possibly find about Billy the kid. This is the first time I heard that he had an aunt and was raised by her after his mother died.

How could Billy the Kid be shot by Pat Garrett if he couldn't even see him! He was in the spirit world, did you see the size of those chickens?

After three mistakes, I can understand why Garret decided to cut his losses and claim a win. It seems totally believable that Billy the Kid may have lived for decades after his death was supposed to have occurred. Mark Twain may not have been the only one whose death was greatly exaggerated. My money says Billy is buried in Texas.

John marston became Jim Milton anything is possible

Billy never gets old always a kid.

Young guns - "aye choveze !" Is when shi hit the fan every time lmao 😂

Very different features especially the jaw line, the nose, the ears, the shape of the eyebrows and brow itself, the cheeks bones, etc. I have no doubt these are two different people.

"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." ~ Billy The Kid

Frontier justice don't make you a outlaw. Billy the kid is a American hero

I am William Henry McCarty as my official school records indicate in Lincoln County New Mexico.

That was the third man, Pat G had shot in the back, as Billy the Kid. So they buried the body and said case closed.

I have a book that has others saying he re-named himself John Miller who lived up in the Zuni Mts. with an Indian woman. He had a gun like the colt that Billy Had. Lots of interesting stories out there. I saw another video where Billy is laid to rest next to his mother in New Mexico & it is fenced it. They charge tourists money to come & view both graves or pay their respects . That is the mysterious part as to why Pat Garret didn't have a big gathering & have someone take a photo of Billy before closing the coffin. I guess he just wanted it to be over with. I'm not so sure I believe the DNA tests. There should be more testing done.

Forensic handwriting analysis is the key to solving this case once and for all!

I believe Pat and billy made agreement to fake billy death and billy will leave the area and get out the rancher war.

Very hard to believe someone of that era would live to 80 or 90!

there is another photo of billy i saw that really resembles that guy

Wow that was really a great story thank you

Will be making the trip in October to Hico then into New Mexico to see both places.

If you want to find out you can get the book Billy the Kid Identity Revealed. In 1949 Brushy told a lawyer the entire story. The lawyer recorded every word of it. Brushy told his entire life story. He showed him all the correct scars from bullets and the one from a knife. It wasn't until around ten years ago I think that a man remembered the story and wanted to see if it was true. After the lawyer recorded everything the story was dropped. Brushy went before the governor but the governor made a joke of it and scared Brushy. Brushy made a deal that it would all be done in private. He did not want anybody to know. He wanted to quietly get his pardon. All these people more or less jumping him caused him to have a stroke. He died like a week later. This new guy looked over the entire story and started to research it. He found document to verify everything Brushy said. He said he was hit that night in the shoulder and went home to I can't remember the name of the town right now, it was a Mexican town. In doing research they discovered a census was being taken the day after. Everybody had to show up in this small town. The census shows 2 white men lived in this town. One was like 46 the second man was recorded as being 21 years old but not present. He was home sick with a gun shot wound. Brushy told them how the shooting at the jail REALLY happened. Nobody could ever quite piece together exactly what happened in that room with the odd position of the bullet hole. Brushy told them what happened and it checked out perfectly. It was his story that led them to pull up some boards at the top of the steps and see if there really was a pool of blood at the top of the steps back then. They used a special light that reacts to blood and it instantly lit up a rather large pool of blood that had dripped down between the floor boards. He described how the outside of the jail looked different at that time. When he was upstairs he explained how the rooms have changed from when he was there. After digging into records from the city they found he was 100% right about everything he described. The changes had been made so long ago that nobody alive knew about it. He slipped out of the cuffs in front of him to show him how he did it. He explained who put a gun in the outhouse for him but he did not use it. He went into detail about this man and his relatives that also lived in the town. The records were checked and he was 100% right! He talked about the letters he wrote to the governor. At this time these letters were not even known to exist. He was 100% correct when they checked the letters. He talks about the shoot out at the mill. He gives very clear details step by step that are not in line with the official story. In the 70's 2 letters were found that were written by someone who was there. Those letters matched Brushy's story 100% This is a man who time and time again gave information only Billy the Kid should know. He corrected the story. He said the woman who died when he was young was not his mother. She was his aunt. He said his mom died when he was three. There is a large collection of photographs to back up every bit of his story. You can tell they are all the same guy. You can even see Brushy wearing the same gamblers ring in his photos just like the ring in the one known Billy photo. 5 people who we KNOW for SURE lived in Fort Sumner and knew Billy the Kid. He sat down with these people 1 at a time and talked. Each person claimed that was Billy and they were sure. They would ask him questions and then jump up because they knew only Billy could have answered that question. Brushy told each person "Ask me a question only Billy could answer. All 5 of these people prepared and signed written legal statements filed with the courts that under the danger of lying under oath , they can say beyond the shadow of a doubt the man they just spoke to IS Billy the Kid beyond any doubt what so ever!!! The woman hugged him and cried before they talked. Pat Garett hid the body he shot. He would not let anybody see it. His deputy Poe told him he shot the wrong man as soon as he saw the body!! The body was put in a pine box and buried at first light. This IS NOT HOW ANYBODY would have handled it!! In total he stood to gain $5,000 from killing Billy. Everybody knows what you do next. It's the way it is ALWAYS done! You immediately send for a photographer to get a picture of the body. You also get a coroner to review the body and write a death certificate. You then let people who knew him to see the body and verify that it is him. Pat DID NOT DO any of this. His own deputy told him that was not the body of Billy the Kid. Why? His obituary describes him as having darkened his skin and grown a thick beard to hide from people. Billy was Irish and pale skinned. He could not tan if his life depended on it! Billy had NO facial hair. That's a big part of why they called him Kid. Here is the bitch of it. Brushy said it was Billy Barlow a Mexican friend of his that Pat killed. o.k. when Brushy told this story the obituary was buried deep in city records. It was not found until well over 30 years AFTER Brushy told that story!! Read the book. There are just SO MANY things that Brushy said that were later proven to be right!! There are official records, photos, and other things found over the years that continue to match what Brushy said. Take the shoot out at the McSween house. Billy said that in that fight 3 black soldiers were killed. Years and years later Dudley's (in charge of those troops) court martial records were pulled and it showed he had 3 black soldiers that were killed in that shootout!

Judge "Your going to jail, jail, jail" Billy the kid "You can go to hell, hell, hell" lol

DAM IT I'M NOT DEAD !!!

always wondered why everyone just repeats the same old stories they've heard when it comes to Billy. and a lot of them say it's hearsay, speculation. makes it hard for someone who might know some truths to say anything different and spoil his legend. may another story is not meant to be told. One story popped up with this statement. "Billy the kid is still one of the most beloved figures of the old west. And he's still keeping people guessing". who would want to ruin that? but there is a Maxwell family secret. I can, however answer questions with a yes or no.

Yeah I believe that Billy the kid live all those years

poor billy went through alot

The only thing in common was that they were both male. Their faces have totally different shapes and features. I guess if you drink enough whisky they may start to look alike? LOL!

I thought his mom died when Billy was 13? I never heard or read anything about him having an aunt. Seems like they can't their history right, it's always changing

Regardless of who the elderly man was, Wikipedia has Billy the Kid's birthdate as September 17 or November 23, 1859.

A doctor took Billy the kids pic and this old man and said the old man was not Billy the kid he said the face did not match

There were lots of guys who claimed to be Billy....

i have read all the biographies and legends of billy the Kid, and I garuntee he was not raised by his aunt

That interviewer has a recording of brushy bill talking Spanish

"Old Henry" took me here!

I visited the museum, and read the book by the lawyer (I think) as told by Brushy Bill... It is totally plausible. It is said that the guy shot by Pat Garret was another guy named Bill and they buried him quick and called it done.. Also, if you remember, Pat, himself was murdered along a trail some time later... Who would’ve done that? I can’t say that I think Brushy Bill and Billy the Kid are identical, but there is also decades of difference between the two pictures, and, again, it is certainly plausible. Brushy, himself, led an interesting life post Billy the Kid era.

I believe billy lived way past his supposedly death in the 1800's

Let's just say that there was no shortage of corruption in the area, at the time. So cover up for political and/or ego reasons would be possible.

People always like to ask this question: WHY would Pat Garrett decide to let Billy The Kid go all of a sudden? Id doesn't make sense!!! Actually, it makes perfect sense! He had no choice!!! You have to understand what happened. Pat was HIRED to get Billy The Kid dead or alive. There was a LOT of money in it!! The ACTUAL amount with everything added was $5,000!! Not a lot now! Then, He could purchase a nice house AND a business like a Saloon and STILL had over $2,000 left!! O.K. so Pat has all this on the line for Billy. BUT this is JUST for BILLY!! Nobody else! He was never hired to bring in the regulators!! There was no money in it! When Pat shot and killed Charlie Bowdre it was actually murder. He had no order to kill Charlie. He had no legal right to kill Charlie. He killed Charlie from ambush by MISTAKE! He thought it was Billy because they were wearing a similar hat. OOOOOPS! It is overlooked because he arrested Billy in the process. Then Pat Garrett screws up AGAIN!!! He shoots and kills Tom O'Folliard by MISTAKE from ambush!! ONCE AGAIN Pat screws up and kills the wrong person. He not only killed Tom but he was very cruel to him in the way he moved Tom's soon to be dead body around and purposefully made it hurt more. As he laid on a bead dying, the boy cried out consistently for water, whiskey, or death. He was taunted for it until he died. Pat KNEW things were falling apart! People were FURIOUS he killed Tom who in no way deserved to be shot and killed. He committed murder YET AGAIN!!! He knew damn well that we was not going to get away with it a third time! They were going to charge his ass with murder if he did it again! Once again Pat is in position and has his chance to kill Billy the Kid?? Nope. ONCE AGAIN, Pat fires a shot from ambush and he kills Billy Barlow. Billy was a half Mexican boy Billy the Kid was friends with. They were at a dance that night and Billy Barlow was drunk. He walked over to the house drunk. Think about it.....If your Billy the Kid and your walking towards a house to get a cut of meet to cook at MIDNIGHT and you start seeing men standing on porches with rifles...….would you keep walking? Would you pass one deputy after another clearly holding their rifles at midnight???? When he asks in Spanish "Who are they" the deputies answer back to him in English. "It's o.k. Kid! We are not going to hurt you." Then the boy answers back to the deputies in Spanish??? Billy spoke English and Spanish. The deputies clearly only spoke English. Yet, the boy keeps responding in English? That's because Billy Barlow did not speak English. Pat got excited and fired! He shot Billy Barlow and killed him instantly!!! THE SECOND he saw the body he knew it was not Billy the Kid! The second his deputy saw the body.....he KNEW it was not Billy the Kid!! Why? Billy the Kid was short, had blonde hair and clear blue eyes. The known photo is a very bad pic of him. People said they could barely recognize him. It was said he could have any girl he wanted. They said when he went in a room all the girls eyes went to him. Billy Barlow was a dark skin Mexican with a beard. The body on the floor was a dark skin Mexican with a beard. Pat immediately removed the body to the one room with no windows. He put armed men to guard it. It paid men to begin digging his grave right away in the dark. The body was buried at first light. Pat murdered a THIRD MAN!! NO not , this time but a BOY!! This was it! This was too far!! He would hang for this and he knew it! He had no choice but to lie!! Billy Barlow was about 16 years old! He murdered a 16 year old boy who was innocent!! The Kid was planning on going to Mexico in a few days anyway. He took his chance, left and kept his mouth shut. He knew he was home free because Pat could NEVER tell the truth about what happened. Pat was always worried Billy would come back and kill him for killing Billy Barlow. That's why he had a strict no gun rule on any of his property the rest of his life but her carried two guns. He was famous for being paranoid. Pat had no choice!! He had to lie! It messed things up to where he got very little money out of the killing and he never fought hard to get it!! Doesn't that seem weird? It was standard back then. You dress the body and display it. You have pictures taken of it as proof. You have a death certificate and autopsy as proof!! You don't hide the body and burry it at first light!! Unless you know your going to hang if you get caught having killed an innocent boy!!

So the movie Young guns was closer to the truth than people lead to believe

Nope. His mouth is totally different.

That old man and the picture of Billy is not the same person 🤦🏻‍♂️

So cool!

Great story either way-The legend lives on!

This is the first I've heard of the aunt of Billy the kid every other story says his mom died when he was 14 years old

But Brushy Bill's own family Bible says he was born years later then Billy the Kid... and was just a wee wee kid when Billy was a young adult.. but very interesting

Billy and Elvis was last seen playing poker

One thing that I noticed is that the picture of him has him with one pistol worn in a traditional draw for a right hander. But both Young guns 1 and 2 as well as The Kid depict him with dueling crossdraw pistols. Reports of Billy being able to spin the guns in his hands at opposite directions at the same time having incredible gun shownmanship, draw speed and accuracy with 2 pistols. So did he cary one pistol and wear like in the pic? Did he have 2 pistols he carried in traditional draw holsters or where they cross draw and the picture doesn't represent the entirety of his full arsenal of his outlaw career? I need answers

Billy’s chin is long, bushy bills is short two different people

Me, Billy, Jesse, bo & Luke just good - o - boy's never meanin no harm just fightin the system

I just say a movie about Billy the Kid on SHOWTIME, the name of the movie is Old Henry... It's a great movie!!!

This is a very interesting story. Makes me wonder who is right?

They had this in Young Guns 2 at the very end of the movie.

The facial recognition software determined that there was a 93% similarity between the two, which would mean that it really had been Billy the Kid. Billy the Kid wasn't a dummy. He outsmarted the law in his youth, what's not to say that he hadn't found a way to outsmart them as an old man.

My money is on John Miller being Billy the Kid. Too many coincidences, the main one being there's no record of John Miller existing before 1881, bullet scars, the fact Miller never outright claimed he was Billy the Kid (it was his wife who made the outright claim), and a whole host of other reasons.

I believe that that was really Billy the Kid cuz too many things in history did not make sense when supposedly pack Garrett shot him

the kid went into hiding in Mississippi and later married and had kids and his oldest son was Elvis's grandfather. you can even see the resemblance. yeah baby right on

True or not folklore is always interesting

not even close,,,,but i saw elvis in vegas on fremont st

First of all it was his dad that died and they moved to New Mexico not Mexico but then his mother remarried and years later died from tuberculosis in New Mexico the stepfather abandon billy that’s how he became an outlaw

John millers trunk showed that he was billy the kid

Yes he died in the 1950s. He has all the scars that Billy the Kid had.

You ask me if I have any scars? Yes sir. I have my scars.

The facial recognition software wasn't just "some similarities". It was a 93% match. A 93% match btw is enough evidence in America to convict someone of murder in a court of law. It's also the same software that the FBI, CIA and Interpol use. This alone should give serious doubt to the fort sumner burial.

What were the names of the other two men that Pat Garret shot, and when and where?

"-Why don't you kill him? -Why? Hes my friend."

Great story

I can tell you, the only authentic picture of 'Billy the Kid' is the one where he is playing croquet. That tin type photo is marred for specific reason. The reason being, this man was stalked. That's why there are several photos of men of almost the exact same stature, yet, not the same man, to confound and confuse. In that regard, Billy was once known to be known as Henry McCarty, among other names. Thing is, he faked his death and changed his name more than once, perhaps four times. Runs in the family. Could be due to some kind of ethnic cleansing type issue, know what I mean?

He was Billy the kid, I've just finished reading Daniel a Edwards book,read it several times, no doubt in my mind he was Billy the kid

I would like to believe that he lived on past Fort Sumter. Brushy Bill !

I thank he did live to be a old age

Just a STORY. Henry was killed that night in 1881

I dont think we will ever know for sure, always gonna be guessing.

the man that garrett killed was james little .billy heard that garrett was gunning for him and he sent james in to get some money to loan him then garrett shot james by mistake buried his body end of story garrett confessed on his deathbed . the rest this lady here will tell you

Pat never shot Billy,he actually let him be able to live a peaceful life in the end,and both became famous and lived long.

Its already been proven that Brushy Bill was not Billy The Kid, years ago. First thing, he was not 90yrs old when he died. He was discredited by family members that he was 79. Second thing, in the 1930s, Brushy Bill did seek media attention pretending to be one of Jesse James colleagues during Jesse's career and he and the man claiming to be Jesse James in the 1930s were both laughed out of town. 3rd thing, When Brushy Bill was introduced to Billiy's surviving friends from Fort Sumner days, several spoke to Brushy in Spanish, as they fluently did w Billy during his time in Arizona and New Mexico, but Brushy didn't understand a word of Spanish. When Brushy past away in 1950, his original burial marker listed his real name AND birth date. It has been removed and marked with a new, large advertising burial tombstone. Hico Texas as nothing else but this bogus story to bring in passing tourists and travelers to the boring, sleepy little town.

He was the only outlaw who was pictured dead.

As they say we all have fingerprints to show who we are, Billy had not only the finger prints but he also had the ears to separate him from the rest...my beleive

Good video

Damn mah bois Billy is John in RDR2 I mean the Marston one!!

It's not the 3rd person in a row that Pat Garrett shot in the back. He did kill 2 real friends of Billy's who were outlaws and he mistaken Charlie Bowdre as Billy the Kid because of the hat he was wearing, but he did not shoot him in the back.

Anybody an idea about the background music?

Billy the Kid was born in 1859, Brushy Bill Roberts was born in 1868......there’s no way Roberts could be Billy the Kid

In the book Alias Billy the Kid Morrison claimed Brushy stripped for him and he had 26 bullet and knife wounds on his body. There is no way Brushy Bill Roberts was shot and stabbed 26 times and live to tell the tall tale.

What is it that looks similar between the two?

Its a possibility Brushy Bill could be the real Billy the Kid....They made a movie based on him. They have a museum in his honor. Why not Dig him up and Billy mother to get a DNA test like they did Jeese James....My opinion is Billy being killed by Pat Garrett is more of a interesting story then him dying a old man and beloved in Texas

John Miller was said to The Kid a trunk was left and later opened with evidence that proved he was the kid , but the trunk disappeared

Keep it like that a mystery.

I thought Billy's mother died when he was 15. I had no idea he even had an aunt.

Billy kid was 5.4 how tall was the other guy?

If theyre was someone or somewhere billy hated w all his guts was texans. That was very well knowm , so I dont believe he moved to Texas it just dont make sense.

At 1 Here Comes way out that Billy the Kid head you go by the ears and then those might be a little wider with age you tell if that was him that yours is like a fingerprint old man to see his ears

What if I say he’s back

Brushy Bill was not Billy the kid!

There is no way on Earth that brushy bill eVER looked like-or looks like-Billy the kid. PLUS i think they checked the dna which did not match

Can anyone tell me history of the photo used at .33 seconds?

Everyone comes out of the woodwork claiming every old photo is Billy the Kid hoping to cash in. Brushy was not Billy.

It is highly likely this is true, though I know there is evidence that Brushy was not Billy, however, I've looked a bit deeper over the years and it seemed Brushy went to great lengths for a long time to throw everybody off to hide his identity including changing his birthday and a good deal of other things, especially when he married, his wife was the one who possibly wanted him to come clean and eventually he gave in. There were important things only Billy and any family or those that knew him would know that Brushy knew that were in no papers or otherwise and he had things to back it all up. People change when they get older, height, fractures, who knows, but the eyes never lie, nor does the hair and certain chin areas. In what pics we have of Billy to reference, it was noted he was always chewing on something and his jaw would slant. As a mature grown adult, it seemed he was a bit less cocky and a bit more civilized. Just my take.

Maybe Brushy just never liked his wife. It happens seemingly

They did computer facial comparisons and Brushy Bill was NOT Billy The Kid. Watched the documentary twice.

Billy was right handed !!!

We will never know