Blancpain Fifty Fathoms & The Relativity of Watch Prices

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The Random Watch Dude

The Random Watch Dude

14 днів тому

Having tried on the Tudor Black Bay 41, and Blancpain Fifty Fathoms this week, I discuss my thoughts on whether any of these watches are good value. Is there any relativity at all in the pricing structures from different manufacturers? Is the Blancpain a better watch than the Rolex Deepsea James Cameron? Is my Omega Seamaster 2254.50 the best value watch of them all?

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@steveb2042
@steveb2042 13 днів тому
A great discussion re relativity and value. I agree it is all about the emotion and how a watch makes you feel and for that you really do need to see a watch in person. I have a 2264.50 and there is something about the dimensions and feel of the watch that make it very special. I have one of the original Deepsea's from 2010, which has been on a lot of lives adventures with me and for that reason, I value highly. As far as the Blancpain goes, the 45mm version was my grail based on photos but it was only when I handled one that I really appreciated just what the watch is in terms of heritage, impeccable finish (including on the movement) and for me it subjectively it was worth the price, as a retirement from work watch. If I look at all three, I really would struggle to say which is the best value relative to price, I just enjoy wearing them all and to illustrate the point of value even more, I have a Seestern 62MAS homage that has very good finishing and runs at +1 second per day and also holds a special place in my collection. As far as pronouncing Omega, in Casino Royale on the train with Vesper Land, Daniel Craig pronounced Omega as Omeeeega and as they were sponsoring product placement in the film, I'd say that Omeeeega is the way to go!
@TheRandomWatchDude
@TheRandomWatchDude 13 днів тому
I would definitely buy that Fifty Fathoms if I could get a deal on it, and I might still do that. Great watch, just a lot of money! and yes you have made a fantastic point about Casino Royale!!!!
@FiXilVer
@FiXilVer 12 днів тому
I own a titanium bathyscaphe on a bracelet and know the FF models by heart. Two things to add/correct :): Firstly: You have actually been trying the 45mm version on and not the new 42. Yes, I am 100% sure of it, because the new 42mm versions dial does NOT have the inner circle on the dial, central to the hourmarkers. This sunburst central portion of the dial on the watch you have shown us the wristhots of, is only featured on the 45mm version. The dial of the new 42mm version is plain. Take a look at the pictures on their website or just google both of them and compare the dials side by side and you will see the difference. Thats why you had correctly the feeling, that the watch was quite big for 42mm :D Well yes, because it was 45 :D Secondly: This I am not 100% but maybe 95% sure is the grade of the titanium. Blancpain have started to use Titanium Grade 23 on FF models firstly with the introduction of mine FF bathyscaphe in titanium, which was in september 2021. Prior to that, all FF models were in Grade 5 titanium. So the watch you were trying on is 45mm version, in titanium Grade 5, as you have said. The new 42mm version is in fact in Titanium grade 23. I enjoy your videos, keep it up :)
@TheRandomWatchDude
@TheRandomWatchDude 12 днів тому
Thank you! That all makes total sense to me now! Even the sales associate was adamant it was 42mm, but he was looking on the Blancpain website which is where he must have been looking at the newer model you mentioned! I'm definitely very keen if what I tried on is available in a smaller case size. Thanks for the info
@shakhbozyusupov6331
@shakhbozyusupov6331 12 днів тому
@@TheRandomWatchDude Speaking about specs and movement, the movement on blancpain is the best among dive watches even ap royal oak offshore is not even close to that. the only dive watch with better finishing is singer divetrack which costs 94k unfair comparison. Also u need to try 42 new version on a strap with pin buckle which will costs around 16k yeah very expensive but i am sure these things will be offered at discount in 1 or 2 years.
@JimJones762x39
@JimJones762x39 7 днів тому
I own the 45mm blue Ti and came here to post the same info FiXiVer is correct. Also the 45mm steel versions used to have a solid case back. I also own the blue version of your Omega nicknamed Electric Blue another amazing watch. Blancpain is so underrated in the watch world and its so nice to have a watch that is different from what everybody else is wearing.
@paulosullivan3991
@paulosullivan3991 12 днів тому
Correct , top class
@JohnBowman-ut4dz
@JohnBowman-ut4dz 13 днів тому
Hi Mark I do understand where you are coming from I wanted a omega speed master racing but when I tried it on completely changed my mind.so if you're going to spend big money you definitely have to get to no the watch first. sometimes you try on a watch your not particularly interested in and you love it so much you have to own it.that happened when I went to try on a james Cameron deepsea loved the watch but also was offered to try on the bi metal sea dweller not on my radar at the time. loved it that much had to own it took me 18 months on the wait list.own them both great watches.thanks John.
@TheRandomWatchDude
@TheRandomWatchDude 12 днів тому
You've got a great collection!
@nedflanders3769
@nedflanders3769 12 днів тому
And here I thought you were going to start talking about time dilation and the warping of spacetime 😊
@TheRandomWatchDude
@TheRandomWatchDude 12 днів тому
Now that would be interesting!
@nedflanders3769
@nedflanders3769 12 днів тому
@@TheRandomWatchDude gotta love a good physics joke 😜👍🏻
@RigGeo
@RigGeo 13 днів тому
Liked the discussion. The pronunciation is "white bread" Mon ami. 😂 lol The older versions were bigger at 45mm but had closed case backs. It's an iconic diver. It is a substantial watch especially in steel, but worth it when the price tag was a lot less just 6yrs ago etc. So it was easier to swallow even as an orange, pear or kiwi. Lol.
@TheRandomWatchDude
@TheRandomWatchDude 13 днів тому
White bread!! Of course!! Thanks for clarifying that!!
@AS-po9pm
@AS-po9pm 12 днів тому
Everything Jean cloud beaver touched is far to expensive
@Bu-22
@Bu-22 6 днів тому
One day, one day, the 42mm will be 50% off on the secondary market, then it will be relatively good value.
@TheRandomWatchDude
@TheRandomWatchDude 6 днів тому
You're certainly right there I reckon.
@leeharding8306
@leeharding8306 13 днів тому
I tried on the new 41mm monochromatic Tudor last week. They had both bracelet versions in stock too. It’s a good looking watch but it’s still too thick. The Black Bay 58 is still Tudor’s best watch even though it’s an old model. It just has the perfect look size and balance with the perfect thickness for a dive watch.
@TheRandomWatchDude
@TheRandomWatchDude 13 днів тому
Thanks Lee and I agree the 58 is still the best case size, and the 41mm is still too thick
@pimba11
@pimba11 12 днів тому
James Bond pronounces Omega the same way you do, then it must be right.
@TheRandomWatchDude
@TheRandomWatchDude 12 днів тому
Do you think Omega would have made sure he pronounced it right? I mean they are paying literally millions for him to say it!
@watchmedicine7747
@watchmedicine7747 13 днів тому
Blancpain has a high horology movement which is a step above Rolex and omega…I wish u could appreciate that aspect
@TheRandomWatchDude
@TheRandomWatchDude 13 днів тому
Can you elaborate on high horology though? What physically makes it a better movement please?
@watchmedicine7747
@watchmedicine7747 13 днів тому
@@TheRandomWatchDude oh sure …I mean as a haute horology movement with the chamforred slots …Wide anglage at the edges ..spiral graining of the bridges …When you go up to breguet /blancpain (in terms of the swatch co ) or patek /AP/VC /independents like Laurent Ferrier or Journe that’s the extra haute horology aspect of the movement that is a notch above in finishing as well as in the case design ..That being said mid luxury brands like omega and Rolex have strong durable movements and the machine finishing on the omega is pretty good nowadays …I think value is relative of course but these high horology brands do charge higher ..now if u want to talk retain value /investment talk Rolex or patek or Journe ..Accuracy maybe a 9f quartz or Breitling …It’s all relative
@trel
@trel 13 днів тому
@@TheRandomWatchDude It's about artistry at that point, not specs. A Rolex movement, for example, is entirely machine-made. Human hands do not touch it. (Incredible feat of industrial engineering, that.) Each Blancpain movement is made in the old-style way, by a single watchmaker. It's almost like a purposeful rejection of modernity. All the finishing doesn't appreciably make the movement tougher or more accurate, but it does make it more beautiful. The dollar value anyone attaches to that is, of course, relative. ;)
@matlindell5022
@matlindell5022 13 днів тому
Tudors are way too thick ☹️☹️☹️
@TheRandomWatchDude
@TheRandomWatchDude 13 днів тому
Yes they are still too thick, you're right!
@Emach76
@Emach76 13 днів тому
You can call it Omeeeega if you want, it’s your right to mispronounce whatever you like but, Omega is the last letter from the Greek alphabet and in the Greek alphabet it’s pronounced with a soft E. But as I said, you do you.
@TheRandomWatchDude
@TheRandomWatchDude 13 днів тому
Thank you! Another member has made a great point that Daniel Craig pronounces it Omeeega in Casino Royale, and that's an Omega sponsored ad, so they clearly are happy with the eeeee!
@Emach76
@Emach76 12 днів тому
@@TheRandomWatchDude if I was Omega and Bond mispronounced my company name, I’d be inclined to let it slide too.
@Dr_LK
@Dr_LK 12 днів тому
@@TheRandomWatchDude check to see how the Omega people, e.g. the CEO, pronounced it! Craig screwed up actually.
@keithburford8589
@keithburford8589 12 днів тому
Omega....Om egg a...Omegga. You Fail. Blancpain ...Blon Pan . . You Fail. Ha ha. 😉😁🤣 . To be honest baring the keyboard warriors , who actually gives a shit ?, pronounce how you see fit mate.
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