Its about the transmission too, not only horsepower

@@smollkitteh1337 Not in this case. This exact comparison was done by Edmunds with similar results. Speculation is this is not a 503hp BMW, more like 600hp.

​@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 I agree with that. Most of BMW cars are heat soaked before doing their testing, which results in lower hp on dyno. I had a 2015 RC350 F-sport and that thing was alright fast, with 306hp, butttttt.. when I test drove the 2018 N55 Motor M2 with 19,000 miles, holy shit, that thing was definitely not 365hp as advertised lol. Felt more like 420-430hp and 450lb torque. It's really not that bad for $40,000 used. I'm also considering the m2 competition "advertised" 405hp/406ft-lb. It's probably more like 450 or 475hp.

I believe there is speculation that the hp figures are whp...which makes sense. Good stuff Sam!

German auto makers do give their real horsepower numbers, they just do it in the worst possible conditions. So this M4 will make it's advertised 503 horsepower at 15,000 ft and 110 degrees with 90% humidity. What it makes elsewhere is a different story. They do this so you are guaranteed advertised horsepower no matter where you are and what conditions you are in.

X3M and M3/4 make 480whp consistent on dyno. Anything showing 500+ is exaggerated

@@lilnicky131 ????

@@laurent36 you don't know shit about cars.

M4 is heavier than the Corvette and has a better transmission. Stop bring up excuses. M4 is faster than this Corvette. That’s it!

@@m.b.6744 lmfao. Try again loser

Yep it is

False

​@@henzo7087aside ftom the warranty work coming in

@@Duece-_- it clearly is a great machine walked a mid engine car lol

They are so much faster than previous M cars It's incredible

They say 10hp is roughly 100pds or so. A 50whp gap is plenty of a gap to shrugg off 250 pds on a roll. Bmw's numbers are whp and not crank.

. It has more than enough power to compensate for 250lbs considering that 250lbs is a decimal if were talking hp/weight ratio. It makes 0 difference in acceleration.

The weight varies depending on the configuration and packages. An M3/M4 with carbon bucket seats and carbon ceramic brakes can be considerably lighter than a fully loaded car without those. Also, it matters where the weight is distributed. C8 wheels are bigger and a few pounds heavier.

Bmw is smart for underrating their cars

Strange because on my dyno show me 517hp. I think you talking shitttttt 😢

​, so I go to the fish market, buy and pay for 2 fish 🐟, when I arrive home, find 3 fish on the bag???? In this case, thank you bmw for giving me more for the money

still not same as 700 hp 💀

In awd sport mode, it’s faster than the c8 in all aspects. RWD mode does not put the same power/torque down. If you want to compare RWD platforms you compare the standard comp.

M4 is torq converted corvette is DCT fyi

You knew they were'nt going to use the C8 launch control?!

@@volkswagenhawk7094better gearing than the vette at the end of the day

I would imagine under 11 - 2.2 0-60

Mine pulls low 11.2s all day long

They're notoriously underrated from the factory for sure.

@@WineHouse33bmw had the car in the worst possible condition when they did the dyno runs 😂

They definitely lied about how much HP it has wow has at least 60 to 100 more HP than they say it has easily…

U realize the e ray is in another price range.

Yes I was about to ask the same!

That is horrible considering a Kia Stinger in Ontario Canada can do 10s on stock turbos.

@@FordPickUPRed yep the hellcats hear barely run 12.0 and that’s on drag radials

I mean it's only 0.5 seconds apart from the Plaid's 0-60 time, and the M3 actually does the 60ft and 0-30 better than the Plaid. A tuned M3 is faster than a Plaid. They are already in the 8s with proper setups

@@DMCarReviews and runs 9.4 with basic bolt ons on e85/gas mix full weight stock tires.

@@Bimmer_Bill Correct!

If seen one with a simple turbo upgrade run a 8.9 quarter mile. Not even a full build

@@user-my4xu4gf1z yup! Just did it! Stock turbos, stock engine, full weight with comfort seats. The s58 and b58 platforms are phenomenal!

Better transmission also helps

5:38 corvette clearly engaging in launch control.

Actually, they are usually dead on the money on a proper dyno, not a tuner dyno which produces massively inflated figures. It's a testament to BMW engineering, the cars are always on the money in terms of power. This is what you want, precision engineering, not shonky engineering with cars making different power. The only manufacturer that seriously underrates their cars is McLaren who always quotes worst numbers, they also like BMW though reliably produce the same numbers from car to car.

Nice attempt, but throughly incorrect@@LeeXRV

@@WineHouse33 - Nice attempt? Odd reply.

Machine didn’t record

One time i think it was 2.4 for xdrive

We don’t have the machines for roll races

​@@SamCarLegion11.3 corvett 1\4 mile 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣.. 12.3 maybe.???

Z06 would win!!! It's just so much lighter and similar power

@emekaiheanacho274 idk it might be closer than you think. The m4 walked from this corvette and technically on paper the corvette should've won. Since its near identical power plus being lighter. Even in RWD mode the M4 was hawking it down the runway!

@@jefryherrera3242 exactly

@@emekaiheanacho274lol don’t be sure about that. Most 0-60 tests have them neck and neck and we know BMW are the ones that don’t overeaggerate HP. Example most dynos have the 660 hp zl1 and c7 zo6 only 70 wheel hp difference when on paper it’s supposed to be 160 crank hp more than the m3/m4 comp.

@@Bimmer_Bill Interesting 👍👍

In the 8s. Stock in the 10s

Stock is usually 11.0 seconds@@AlexFlores-cr6hb

@@AlexFlores-cr6hb what do you mean 8 seconds than proceed to say stock in the 10s boss?

yup

Y’all really feel better after this race huh? 😂

@@G-Rated yup, taking my whole family on trips while smoking c8’s at the same time… it’s pretty nice. Oh and the m4 comp xDrive beats the c8 on the reference road course (Nurburgring) too (7’30” vs 7’28.5”). Better bring the ZO6.

@@Bimmer_Bill Yea, we’re going to bring the ZO6 and maybe the E-Ray too just to humble you down, because everyone here knows whenever *you* say “C8” you’re actually talking about a base model Stingray ($65k sports-car) - which is the only Corvette that will lose a race to a $90k BMW. 😂

@@G-Rated lol you’re trying to compare a purpose built sports car to a family car? 🤣🤣🤣🤣wrong, 🥲🥲🥲🤣btw the m4 CSL is even faster than the track specific Camaro zl1 1le despite having 120 less horsepower. The mighty Eray runs the same 1/4 mile as a bmw m5 cs (10.6), the z06 is actually slower yet you say any bmw doesn’t match up? The m5cs is a four door family car too! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 GM cars at a joke compared to European cars on the track (name your vette and I show you a faster production euro car). Stick with corvette price point, you peasant

That one wasn't the XDrive m4 it was RWD..

I am sure you can figure that out 🤣🤣🤣 🚀

That isn’t even the fastest M4- that would be the M4 CSL… it would have been worse 😂

@@show2imec8 Eray would dog the shit out of ANY bmw production car. Same with the c8 z06. Same with the c7 z06, same with the c7 zr1 lol. Cut the crap. 2023 M4 CSL is so slow! That it did 7:15 at the Nurburgring. When the corvette did 7:13 back in 2015 with the c7 z06 with a manual transmission by a car magazine journalist. C8 z06 ran 10.2 bone stock by Will farmer, go look it up. C8 ERAY isn’t out yet but savagegeese recorded the c8 Eray doing 2.2 0-60. Hagerty recorded a c8 Eray doing a 10.4 on non prepped surface. C7 z06 ran 10.4 by will farmer 100% stock. C7 zr1 ran high 9’s again by Will farmer (AKA professional drag racer) and again STOCK. Cut the crap.

You can imagine lol

Funny you say that. I have a 2022 z4 M40i, same platform, and I swear it’s over 400 for sure, more like 425. Very fast car. Just as fast as my C6.

😂

I feel like you get used to the new grille design after seeing it a few times. It's actually quite an interesting design

The beaver teeth grew on me.. especially the M3..

@@johngabucci Ugly chicks need love to, there's nothing wrong with that.

Soon!

That would be a waste of time, the m2 would beat the nismo every time.

The bmw m4 with a downpipe and tune will run laps around the Z06, find a good tuner

Define "average joe"? are you trying to say poor?

U serious? This isn't top of the line. A m5 or m8 is. Also these are the same price. A z06 with dealership markups are going for 160k same with the eRay

I owned a C8 Stingray and a BMW with the B58 engine, I will tell you BMW sand bag the true HP on all their engines. If BMW says 503HP, that is at the wheel not at the crank. I have first hand experience with the S58 engine, and I tell you is a beast.

@@pablosantana6071 Yes sir I agree, they definitely understate the HP. I have a 2016 M4 competition and it feels great with the stock “444 hp”!

FYI those M4 Comps make 520-530 hp to the wheels whereas the C8 makes 440 hp to the wheels. So the hp advantage is not slight. its big. So the BMW claim of 503 hp is 1.one wheel horse power and 2. it is understimiated for business puposes.

Yea ai suppose German engineering truly shines when compared to *base model* American engineering. Lol. Price and trim level should be considered when you’re comparing the performance of someone’s top model (M4C) amongst their lineup to someone’s base model (Stingray).

I agree! But you sound salty AF and a real homer! Cool story though! 😆 @@G-Rated

11.3 is about as good as you can get on a C8.

@bobbyspanino6874 ok but I feel like it could have gotten a better 0 to 60, I've seen 2.7 2.6 from the c8 stingray

@@chrism869 possibly so if equipped with the Z51 package. C8 in the video is a regular C8

@@bobbyspanino6874actually no multiple drivers have managed 10.9 stock with a c8 so it does have a little more room. But either way the m4 is sandbagging in horsepower numbers, everyone knows when you dyno an m4 it actually makes more power than bmw claims, the real crank hp numbers is around 600hp range do. This m4 will not stand a chance against the e ray corvette.

​@@N0neofyourbusiness.C8s will not do 10.8-10.9 stock wtf are you smoking?