Brett Yormark Hints at Big 12 Expansion Coming

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John Kurtz

John Kurtz

2 місяці тому

In Ross Dellenger's latest piece, we got a juicy tidbit about something Brett Yormark pushed for in the new college football playoff.
Full article: sports.yahoo.com/with-college...

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@F3dB3aR
@F3dB3aR 2 місяці тому
Given the Big 12's presence in the Ohio Valley (Cincinnati & West Virginia), expect Louisville and Pittsburgh to be the next set of additions.
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
The Backyard Brawl will be a good rivalry game for the Big12.
@noahtepera9776
@noahtepera9776 2 місяці тому
Neither of those schools add money to the big 12, if I’m say Utah or Texas Tech’s AD, I’m rejecting the notion of Louisville or Pitt if there are better options like UNC, Duke, NC State, the Virginia schools, Miami or Georgia Tech left on the table
@jeffmorgan9337
@jeffmorgan9337 2 місяці тому
Why would you think there would be other options?
@rickterry8991
@rickterry8991 2 місяці тому
@@noahtepera9776you really don’t know what you talking about. Big big tv ratings and especially in the night games. Those teams you don’t think is worthy draws big ratings on tv
@josephcernansky1794
@josephcernansky1794 2 місяці тому
@@noahtepera9776 and they would be DUMB to pass on Louisville for its competitiveness and Pitt for a connection with WVU and entrance into the Westsylvania region. And it they think other "better" options are available, then that means the SEC and the B1G are going full blown BEAST mode into LEAGUE format....in which case...Utah and Texas Tech will probably be begging for an invite to the SEC or B1G instead of debating if there is better real estate for their expansion?!! Because those 2 certainly won't be high on the SEC/B1G game board!! Hell!! Depending how the B1G wants to play this LEAGUE expansion...the SEC may counter with invites to WVU and Louisville!! (BYE bye, big 12, 10, 8, 6,) TX Tech and Utah can join WSU and OSUw in the new Mountain West!
@bradparnell614
@bradparnell614 2 місяці тому
You are one of the only Big12 channels I've seen that actually seems journalistic in nature. So many others come across as opinion channels only and have hosts that are jerks (to be polite about it). Not being a Big12 fan myself I find those other channels difficult if not impossible to follow but you're very different and for that I salute you and what you are doing. Should things change and my school end up in the Big12 (a rumored possibility) I'll be sure to follow you exclusively and happily ignore those other channels.
@glennbarnes2438
@glennbarnes2438 2 місяці тому
Thank you for all the updates
@charlie12gage
@charlie12gage 2 місяці тому
Arizona & ASU are coming next year isn't that correct!
@grobble8954
@grobble8954 2 місяці тому
The revenue distribution makes sense, if you look at the top 12 final CFP ranked teams this year 11 are SEC or B10 members come 2024. If you look at the year before it's 10 of 12 , the year before that it's 9 of 12(ND was 1 of 3 spots), the year before that 9 of 12(ND was 1 of the 3 spots), year before that 10 of 12 spots.
@philiprobins5488
@philiprobins5488 2 місяці тому
That is what voting gives you. Until voting is removed from the ranking system, it will continue.
@grobble8954
@grobble8954 2 місяці тому
@philiprobins5488 CFP isn't voting like AP poll, its a commitee that factors in analytics, etc.. AP is voting by people that often don't even watch the games.
@THEeyepatch11
@THEeyepatch11 2 місяці тому
Here's an idea and would give the Big XII and the ACC more of incentive to get to the championship game... The conference of the two teams playing for the National Championship gets the largest piece of the pie. The rest split the remaining. Example: TCU (Big XII) v. Georgia (SEC) would've split 70% of the take two years ago. Washington (Pac-12) v. Michigan (B1G) would have split it last season. Seems fair enough to me.
@five4fighting194
@five4fighting194 2 місяці тому
After the ACC devoured the Big East and destroyed it, I’m fine with watching the hand wringing going on now. Kinda pleasing actually. The schools that bolted haven’t done anything…looking at you Miami… Them imploding while my boys have a nice home is causing classic schadenfreude. Big XII need a footprint in North Carolina. If NCSt is there it would be a crime to not go after them. Wolfpack fans are rabid and always play second fiddle to UNC and Duke. Lot of TV’s around Raleigh.
@dominicvan3427
@dominicvan3427 2 місяці тому
It makes sense for The Big12 to expand more. The commissioner knows what's coming. When FSU Clemson get out of the ACC that will be it for THE ACC. Big12 grabbing Louisville Pitt VA Tech maybe Ga. Tech makes sense. Now the disparity in this new distribution deal is simply wrong
@Donutello4
@Donutello4 2 місяці тому
After this MBB season I wouldn't mind Duke and Louisville
@raywilk8119
@raywilk8119 2 місяці тому
What time is it? Sunday morning of the first day of daytime savings time. This is too early! Great Job John! I need some coffee! ☕️
@kopp0e541
@kopp0e541 2 місяці тому
I think XII should rebrand as a renegade league #XXC, after adding Pitt/ Va Tech/ NC St/ L’ville..!
@fredericklockard3854
@fredericklockard3854 2 місяці тому
Everyone loves blaming the B1G and SEC for this madness but all the Big 12 teams that left for the SEC really started this mad dash for money. And now these schools are a huge part of the coming changes that will likely make all other conferences secondary.
@rwcoving
@rwcoving Місяць тому
You think think the Big 12 teams suddenly decided "lets go to the SEC!". Texas was dead set against the SEC just a year or two ago, and Oklahoma had committed to sticking with Okie State. It was the SEC's smoke signals that made those two schools think maybe they needed to go -- no way that was instigated by Oklahoma.
@johnteill_
@johnteill_ 2 місяці тому
From what i understand you need a conference of 8 teams to secure an automatic bid for the playoffs...so lets just say your 7 (FSU, MIAMI, VIRGINIA, VIRGINIA TECH, NORTH CAROLINA, NORTH CAROLINA STATE, and CLEMSON) decided to break away and fourm their own thing it would make sense to add 1 more team in that mix so they could also keep P4 status....maybe GT....ill bet Tulane would would talk half-price to get in 🤔
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
ND
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 місяці тому
I'll play along: UVA VATECH UNC NCSTATE DUKE CLEMSON GATECH MIAMI FSU kicked. Joins BIG!2. ND keeps association. Keeps "ACC" name, etc. as part of settlement.
@Patrick-sg7cm
@Patrick-sg7cm 2 місяці тому
​@tarheel7406 what happens with Cal, Stanford, and SMU?
@josephcernansky1794
@josephcernansky1794 2 місяці тому
@@Patrick-sg7cm "what happens with Cal, Stanford, and SMU?"
@jackhuffman9313
@jackhuffman9313 2 місяці тому
The wild Wild West of realignment At the end of all this musical Chairs I believe there will be two FBS leagues
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
The Super League and the G-8 League
@oldfartatplay
@oldfartatplay 2 місяці тому
TV money. is ruining college football. Need to be. limits on NIL money.
@vistatiger7493
@vistatiger7493 2 місяці тому
I just don't see ESPN giving up on their ACC Network investment in early 25 unless they absorb the ACC football brands into the SEC and convert it to SECN2.
@A1Googler
@A1Googler 2 місяці тому
ESPN already has SEC. Why would ESPN choose to lose ACC revenue only to pay SEC more for 2 teams? It would be a net loss
@WeSRT4
@WeSRT4 2 місяці тому
This is essentially what is going to happen. The SEC network will expand with the conference. I'm glad somebody understands.
@WeSRT4
@WeSRT4 2 місяці тому
@@A1Googler They are going add the very best teams to the SEC and essentially cull the ones that aren’t profitable.
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
The ACC is a lost cause because the conference has no future. After they lose their most valuable members, their leftovers won't be worth squat.
@josephcernansky1794
@josephcernansky1794 2 місяці тому
@@roris5882 the are still valuable....SEC has to have more cupcakes to PAD the win column with.
@cllintdevena7712
@cllintdevena7712 2 місяці тому
KU fan here. Don't cave Brett Yormark. If the Big12 and ACC accept the deal, all it will do is motivate your remaining universities to do whatever it takes to exit. The SEC and Big10 will use the extra money to buy chosen Big12 and ACC schools . Will the SEC and Big10 make college football a mostly regional sport. I am glad basketball is not.
@michaelclay8544
@michaelclay8544 2 місяці тому
There comes a point when a "conference " is so large its just a big blob of teams with no nexus to each other. Also take the top 12 teams period.
@josephcernansky1794
@josephcernansky1794 2 місяці тому
It's called a LEAGUE!!! Now stop it with this "conference" talk!
@JuanM-wy5xe
@JuanM-wy5xe 2 місяці тому
Go Texas Tech🎉
@rickterry8991
@rickterry8991 2 місяці тому
Where they going?
@williamclark6555
@williamclark6555 2 місяці тому
A little disappointed that no one has mentioned UH Cougars winning the B12 championship yesterday. Hail Cougars, Hell yes!
@BrayD2006
@BrayD2006 2 місяці тому
AGREED! But they are surprised/hurt by their team's slate. We need a Big 12 UH voice
@stevekelly9509
@stevekelly9509 2 місяці тому
Uh brings nothing
@MattBuild4
@MattBuild4 Місяць тому
@@stevekelly9509 Other than 60 years of elite basketball program, world class track program, 40 years of decent to great football, and the largest recruiting market in the US......
@orangehoof
@orangehoof 2 місяці тому
1) Call their bluff. 2) Offer a structure of 49-40-11. 3)Encourage the ACC to form a smaller conference of the four carolina schools, Florida St., Miami, Georgia Tech and Clemson. Adding Virginia/Va Tech is optional. That reduces the ACC's footprint but frees up Pitt, Louisville, Syracuse and BC so everyone has a home. Yormark may not like BC but the other three can be promoted as basketball powers. Oh, I guess that still leaves Stanford, Cal and SMU. They could probably join the Oregon St. Washington St. co-op.
@goodnerarts1206
@goodnerarts1206 2 місяці тому
I doubt B12 would pick up Syracuse or BC. There are a handful of teams in the ACC that should be worried about relegation to the MEAC or AAC.
@orangehoof
@orangehoof 2 місяці тому
@@goodnerarts1206 The ace card Syracuse has is their proximity to New York City where Yormark definitely wants to be (Rucker Park, etc.) That was much of his fascination with UConn.
@josephcernansky1794
@josephcernansky1794 2 місяці тому
Why would anyone pay for Wake Forest?? The entire issue of THE DEMSE of the Carolina Basketball Conference is the EXACT same as was the DEMISE of the Big East Basketball Conference. They have big round orange balls stuck up their asses!! And wan to suck off the tit of the football schools that bring in the money! See Wake Forest, Boston College, et al. Once the football powers depart...the ONLY thing that the rest can count on is proximity to TV markets and academics/research reputation. Afterall, these are still Educational Corporations we are talking about, not just Athletic Entertainment Institutions for fat ass men to sit on their couches to be entertained.
@chrisrecord5625
@chrisrecord5625 2 місяці тому
Yormark, cutting-edge?
@timbullough3513
@timbullough3513 2 місяці тому
As long as they don't take SDSU and Boise ... ever.
@tonyeubanks3928
@tonyeubanks3928 Місяць тому
He’s doing what he can to make the Irate 8 a G5 conf
@retireorbust
@retireorbust 2 місяці тому
Safety in numbers. Form divisions east, west, central and cut travel. Go for it.
@manipulatedworld5355
@manipulatedworld5355 2 місяці тому
ACC teams should go for a power 3 and join the Big 12 the timing is right with Saban retiring there will be a shift in college football all they need is a few top brands like Florida state to win to be perceived as a power 3 conference
@moffprof02
@moffprof02 2 місяці тому
Who says we have to have a playoff or national championship? Non P2 should tell P2 to pound sand and if they are going to be treated less than equals then we can just go back to the old bowl system. Equal base revenue distribution or no deal. End of discussion.
@goodnerarts1206
@goodnerarts1206 2 місяці тому
Yeah, not sure what SEC/B1G are playing at. Straight participation distribution for teams in the playoff. Performance-based pay. The P2 will have the most teams in, so they will get the most money. I don't understand this move at all.
@johnteill_
@johnteill_ 2 місяці тому
Your treated like less than equals because your not equals...i notice your not calling for the G5 to get a slice thats the same size as yours....or a tv deal thats the same size as yours....dont you get it....your G5
@jeffkilgore6320
@jeffkilgore6320 2 місяці тому
Couldn’t agree more. A screw em.
@moffprof02
@moffprof02 2 місяці тому
@@johnteill_ I said “equal base revenue”. What does that mean to you? Non P2 fans will quit their casual watching of P2 games. Do you not agree with that statement? I’ve stated 50% of CFP revenue should be divided equally. The other 50% should be given out based upon program and conference success and viewership numbers. Is that unreasonable and/or why?
@goodnerarts1206
@goodnerarts1206 2 місяці тому
as long as teams like Vanderbilt, Northwestern and Rutgers get full share payouts, expect all outsiders to throw a fit. You don't have a monopoly on the best teams. You just have slightly more leverage than your opponent. This is a microcosm of what is wrong with America.@@johnteill_
@clintlewis1715
@clintlewis1715 2 місяці тому
I could see the Big Ten and SEC wanting a "look-in" reevaluation of distribution after any realignment, but that seems like a bad move for the Big 12. Any further realignment is going to favor the Big Ten and SEC. So, unless Yormark knows something we don't, this seems rather foolhardy. The only way I see that you can close the gap would be if the current iterations of the Big 12 and ACC disband, then reform into a new conference with the 16 to 20 most valuable brands from the pool. Even then, they still would not be on equal footing with the Big Ten and SEC as far as media value goes, but that would at least significantly close that gap. Even in such a far fetched fantasy of a scenario, you would still have the top brands looking for a way into the Big Ten and SEC. It would just be a stepping stone for schools to prove their merit. That of course won't happen, because there would be too many schools left out, especially on the Big 12 side of things. To get to 16 schools that make significant bump in value, including Notre Dame, you would be looking at about 10 from the ACC and 6 from he Big 12. To get to 20, you would be looking at about 12 from the ACC and 8 from the Big 12. That's just being realistic based on media value (average viewership) and let's face it, media value is what this is all about.
@daveb3904
@daveb3904 2 місяці тому
First. Thanks John. Go BYU!
@dmaxwell167
@dmaxwell167 2 місяці тому
Espn working hard with 💴 pressure. They want to establish Jr NFL League, which includes B1G and SEC members. Big12 is out. ACC members scramble to join B1G, SEC or Big12 as left overs.
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
Their current playoff contract is another horrible monopoly and it's extremely underpaid. The B1G and SEC can receive double the revenue if they open the bidding up to all the TV networks, like the NFL does. Plus they would get better exposure, from the cross promotion from multiple networks being involved.
@retireorbust
@retireorbust 2 місяці тому
Fine by me. Let them kill off their version of amatuer athletics which doesn't match mine. We will be watching our teams long after the NFL light model collapses.
@shallojalloh
@shallojalloh 2 місяці тому
Interesting that the B12 gets paid the least outta the 4 top conferences....behind the ACC
@lastpme
@lastpme 2 місяці тому
Everything will depend on FSU exit out of the ACC and will the BIG10 and SEC raid the conference.
@al3773b
@al3773b 2 місяці тому
There is a fix to this madness. It lets the best of the best football teams play against each other, and cash in on the tv value of their games. Meanwhile it protects historic rivalries in basketball and protects Olympic sports from being destroyed by absurd travel. Decouple football from the conferences. Set up a 4 tier, 32 team per tier system where the top 4 advance up and bottom 4 relegate. Pay is based on tier. College football as a collective item negotiates its value with espn and fox and amazon. Instead of conferences fighting amongst each other to attract tv deals, they would work together and tv would actually have to bid for the rights. Schools would make more top to bottom. PAC conf would be back. USC, OSU, ND, Georgia would all be in the same tier and play each other. Losing teams would play meaningful games in October and November.
@A1Googler
@A1Googler 2 місяці тому
Big 12 should wait until ACC dust settles
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
All the conferences should wait because the college football landscape will look completely different by 2026. The B1G and SEC will have all the best players and teams by then. So they shouldn't negotiate any of their rights away to get stuck in another crappy playoff deal, just like they are now. There are too many cooks in the kitchen and nothing gets done in a reasonable amount of time because all the conferences have different interests and the G-8s have nothing in common with the Super 2 Conferences.
@josephterrell2835
@josephterrell2835 2 місяці тому
The Big 12 will act much like it did with the Pac 12. BY probably already knows where everyone is wanting to go in 3 years. And he expects there to be 3 Power conferences. Only reason he'd ask for the look in is he thinks there is room for a substantial raise for the Big 12. Could be wishful thinking but he landed the plane exactly how he drew it up with the PAC 12 teams.
@becks89
@becks89 2 місяці тому
Big 12 and ACC should agree on current deal w 2 AQ’s with an agreement that the top rated conferences get the most AQ bids in next cycle so if Big 12 or ACC has better metrics in 2 years then they could get 3 AQ bids conceivably.
@becks89
@becks89 2 місяці тому
@@josephterrell2835 agreed that Yormark is burning up phone lines gauging interest but let’s remember that Yormark’s hope is that FSU is able to negotiate their way out of ACC at a lower # which creates an escape hatch of sorts for the other ACC teams. Big 12 is not hopeful FSU is able to break GOR because that could create problems for Big 12 down the road.
@MichaelDeWolf-jq4vq
@MichaelDeWolf-jq4vq 2 місяці тому
I think when the dust settles, the Big 12 will get Duke, G.T., Pitt., and Louisville.
@HoustonCougar1995
@HoustonCougar1995 2 місяці тому
Champs 🏆
@abeal-bureni2988
@abeal-bureni2988 2 місяці тому
Espn will will end the contract with acc then split the cost with FOX in the big 12. Half the money double the teams.
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
The Big12 will provide plenty of filler games. The B1G and SEC will get all the primetime slots.
@becks89
@becks89 2 місяці тому
No chance. ESPN owns the rights to FSU and will not allow FSU to become a FA with chance of them joining FOX and Big 10. Will take a large payment for ESPN to let them out of contract.
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
@@becks89 ESPN owns the rights to the ACC's games. ESPN does not have a contract with FSU. The ACC owns the rights to FSU's home games. If FSU leaves the ACC, then ESPN still owns the rights to the ACC games. Therefore, FSU just has to negotiate their way or get a court order out of the ACC because ESPN has no rights over them and cannot determine where they go unless ESPN overpays the ACC a ridiculous amount of revenue to destroy their conference. So all the ACC members, including FSU, would have to get paid to agree and it's not worth it financially. Once FSU hagles their way out of the ACC they can go wherever they want and FSU currently isn't on good terms with ESPN. Especially with ESPN threatening them in court by falsely claiming they committed Felonies by exposing their corrupt business practices.
@becks89
@becks89 2 місяці тому
@@roris5882 that’s my point. They have FSU locked through the ACC GOR that FSU signed so ESPN is nit interested in letting anyone out of that GOR short of a large buyout or a court overturning the GOR
@rickterry8991
@rickterry8991 2 місяці тому
Screw ESPN. They have run a shitshow for years as long with the NCAA. Get rid of both
@michaelhart6318
@michaelhart6318 2 місяці тому
Non AAU members like Clemson and FSU will never enter the Big 10.
@willielang8773
@willielang8773 2 місяці тому
It would be interesting if the big 12 could add North Carolina, NC State, Duke and then either Louisville or Miami. That would greatly add basketball value and pretty decent football programs. Notre Dame would probably jump to the big 10 but that would be a great addition. Just sounds like the ACC is going to the fate of the pac 12 if Florida State and Clemson jump to the SEC like when UCLA and USC jumped ship.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 місяці тому
What feasible chain of events ends with UNC in the BIG12? Why would the ACC not survive if it "only" lost CLEMSON & FSU?
@willielang8773
@willielang8773 2 місяці тому
@@tarheel7406I’m just using what happened to the PAC 12 as a reference when UCLA and USC jumped ship. Who actually knows what is going on behind the scenes. College football is screwed by SEC and Big 10.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 місяці тому
@@willielang8773 The BIG12, PAC and ACC had different experiences when faced with the transition down to a new Tier 2: B1G - The first. Happened over ~10 years, so adjusted along the way. No proactive actions though. Still hasn't realized the relegation down. PAC - The second. Happened quickly over ~1 year. Denial and delusion resulted in no proactive actions. Lingers as a Tier 3 after an almost full scatter. ACC - The last. Will likely happen quickly. No denial or delusion, so some proactive measures. Though it will likely happen quickly, the ACC should survive as a peer Tier 2 with the BIG12 due to efforts to manage the transition. The PAC should be the exception; the BIG12 the rule.
@willielang8773
@willielang8773 2 місяці тому
@tarheel7460wow, my comment was about hypothetical situation. Didn’t mean to strike a nerve. Sounds like your a little defensive about the Tar Heels. Will just have to see what happens when Florida state and Clemson jump ship for the SEC and big10 and that sounds like a real possibility depending on what the lawyers work out! The big 12 was kind enough to take Arizona, ASU and Utah after Colorado wanted back in the big 12. They didn’t want to be left hanging trying to find a conference.
@davidtemple2831
@davidtemple2831 2 місяці тому
I like the UNC, NCSt, Duke add to the B12. Obviously there would be a fourth. I have not heard of Duke going anywhere much. Louisville would be nice. Miami would be very nice. VaTech and Pitt fit nicely. Options are there and to be honest the B12 will survive via BB for the time being. Why not separate that revenue like the SEC B10 wants to do with FB? At some point IF the ACC folds, what teams fall our way. I have also heard the Louisville Pitt VA Tech NCSt option. Gotta think that the league will take the best options, but IF they look at thise first and UNC falls in as well as a Miami, or anyone else significant, gotta think more than 20 teams. I know Wake Firest and BC will not drive much, like with Cal and Stanford. Syracuse is a question mark at best. SMU adds nothing. TV contracts? ESON seems to be at the center of this entire mess. Looks like NBC and ND are coming to an end sooner or later. CBS will need a strong conference if they want to continue to carry college FB. Can the B12 split away totally from the ESPN drudge? Just a few questions because this mess looks to be going down a slippery slope with an outhouse at the bottom.
@frankmilitary
@frankmilitary 2 місяці тому
Add a hundred teams, BIG XII. It doesn’t matter. You aren’t the SEC or BIG 10.
@cfb1923
@cfb1923 2 місяці тому
It seems that bothers you more than it bothers us.
@rickterry8991
@rickterry8991 2 місяці тому
Big 10 is no better than big 12. Big 12 finally won a big game. Sec is big dogs but are their big teams on a decline I think so
@garygrassler09
@garygrassler09 2 місяці тому
Y’all really ruined college football
@CarlaJenkinsTV
@CarlaJenkinsTV 2 місяці тому
All of the ACC will be over in the Big 12 including FSU. FSU is in the same state university system as UCF who is in the Big 12. DeSantis is not signing out FSU and its travel and tourism money to the Big 10 when there is a viable in-state option with Big 12.
@WeSRT4
@WeSRT4 2 місяці тому
They're going to the SEC!
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
The deal is already done. FSU and ND are heading to the B1G as soon as FSU can break out of the ACC prison encampment. Then the B1G will help FSU earn the AAU membership they covet because they have heavy influence over the AAU Board. The State of Florida wants FSU going to the B1G because they will maximize their revenue for sports AND academics. Plus the B1G will be earning a lot more then the SEC, after adding them, because they negotiated a superior TV contract, with the escalator clauses to drive their value through the roof.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 місяці тому
The ACC is better off waiting out the GOR than some merger with the new BIG12.
@trile8
@trile8 2 місяці тому
ACC sealed its fate with their recent expansion. The idea is to cut off fat, not add more. Big 12 is going to expand
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 місяці тому
LOL The BIG12 is effectively all fat from the Tier 1 perspective. No self-awareness.
@allend807
@allend807 2 місяці тому
Why would Notre Dame join, College Football has shown they will make concessions to ND, at some point Notre Dame will prob get a larger piece of the revenue share than the group of 5 schools
@CarlaJenkinsTV
@CarlaJenkinsTV 2 місяці тому
Notre Dame will join the ACC because its media rights are over there. As someone in the Big 10, we know that Notre Dame is in Indiana. We still don't want them over in the Big 10. Don't believe anything other talking heads have to say.
@goodnerarts1206
@goodnerarts1206 2 місяці тому
yeah, I bet ND gets a big piece of that 10% allotment. Plus, if they make the playoffs, they get to keep ALL of the performance payouts - not having to split it with their conference.
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
ND will double their TV revenue if they join the B1G because they currently earn peanuts in the ACC, with it's messily playoff revenue. The B1G already has the escalator clauses built into their new TV contract to add ND to make their revenue explode through the roof because the TV networks want them in the B1G and are willing to pay a premium for it.
@Conundrum-cy5oe
@Conundrum-cy5oe 2 місяці тому
Yormark begging for "cut-out provision" for L-12 in 2026? He will need to give the SEC/Big Ten more $$$ & AQs to get it.
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
Exactly, when ND, FSU, Clemson, UNC, and the few other valuable schools join the B1G and SEC, their % will increase and the Big12's will decrease because the B1G and SEC will have all the best players and teams and the Big12 will have all the leftover tiny G-8 brands.
@arthurpasseri4761
@arthurpasseri4761 2 місяці тому
UConn will be left out again...Hope Yormark will take them..
@KeepChoppin
@KeepChoppin 2 місяці тому
It's wild the B12 is pushing for 3rd tier teams like Louisville and Duke, yet they want to be treated and paid as a Super 2 conference.
@greggreg4804
@greggreg4804 2 місяці тому
Over 70% of the schools in the super 2 are duds like Rutgers, Maryland, purdue, Indiana, Minnesota, northwestern, Illinois Michigan state. 😮
@KeepChoppin
@KeepChoppin 2 місяці тому
@@greggreg4804 and 100% are duds in the Other 2, well, once schools like FSU and Clemson are in the Super 2.
@SpynCycle57
@SpynCycle57 2 місяці тому
Big10 & SEC form a new football subdivision, call it 1-Prime for now, and have their own football playoff. They still remain in the NCAA and all other sports are in division 1. Any football games against FBS schools are treated the same way FBS schools playing against FCS schools is treated. Still participate in the basketball tournament. A separate football playoff structure. Just have to find the correct way to define 1-Prime membership qualifiers so that no other schools ever qualify unless they have are approved by existing 1-Prime members, which are the SEC and Big10. On a side note, the FBS & FCS names need to change, now that FBS is getting a playoff.
@Spitfirethedragon
@Spitfirethedragon 2 місяці тому
Watched all the ratings go down for the Big 10 and SEC without the other schools. Oklahoma without Oklahoma State will go down in ratings. The biggest long time rival for the fans of Oklahoma are all the old Big 8 schools.
@davidtemple2831
@davidtemple2831 2 місяці тому
Subdivision will die! Take all your sports with you! No more basketball tourney etc.
@TheFrizbaloid
@TheFrizbaloid 2 місяці тому
Brett Yormark, the merchant of death.
@KeepChoppin
@KeepChoppin 2 місяці тому
B12 can literally add the entire G5 and they still won't have a single blue blood. Do what you gotta do B12.
@rodneydurrett8604
@rodneydurrett8604 2 місяці тому
Blue bloods aren't relevant anymore!!
@Rodkicks88
@Rodkicks88 2 місяці тому
If the Big12 was a stock, this would be the best opportunity to buy. When (not if) they win a football championship in the next 4-5 years, and Duke Louisville Pitt and VT joins with their basketball programs, everyone will be talking P3 and then it will be too late to buy.
@KeepChoppin
@KeepChoppin 2 місяці тому
@@Rodkicks88 Love that optimism and maybe you're right. It's looking like K-Mart stock at this point to me. Just because a stock is cheap doesn't make it a wise investment. I remember back when people thought Wal-Mart could never rise above K-Mart.
@theoptimist9605
@theoptimist9605 2 місяці тому
Why does John’s head look so big and pale? John…. Please back away from the camera and get some sun. Love the show❣️
@vistatiger7493
@vistatiger7493 2 місяці тому
He doesn't need the sun it's still winter. Too much sun just causes problems like skin cancer. He looks FINE the way he is. At least I don't have to get my readers to look at him.😀
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
Maybe he's taking those PED peptides that make him smarter and his head is getting too big for his tiny body to hold up.
@wallbangerzsports
@wallbangerzsports 2 місяці тому
Clemson and FSU are going to the Big XII. You heard it here first. Bookmark it
@roderickhogan4566
@roderickhogan4566 2 місяці тому
Would love to see it but that's not happening
@CarlaJenkinsTV
@CarlaJenkinsTV 2 місяці тому
They are. FSU is a state-funded school just like UCF. DeSantis is not signing FSU out of Florida to have state tax payers' money floating to Chicago.
@becks89
@becks89 2 місяці тому
FSU & Clemson aren’t going to pay upwards of $300M to get out of ACC to join Big 12 for comparable money.
@odinson810
@odinson810 2 місяці тому
​@CarlaJenkinsTV Desantis won't have any say in the matter and why in God's name would fsu go through all of this trouble and pay a exit fee just to in up in the big 12??? That make no sense the big 12 will have to focus on the smaller brand schools that the big ten and sec will leave behind.
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
FSU has to join the B1G if they ever want to receive their AAU membership because the B1G has the academic resources and influence to help them get it done if they join.
@irishseven100
@irishseven100 2 місяці тому
More NIL money for SEC and Big Ten.
@jameschapman6825
@jameschapman6825 2 місяці тому
If ESPN/FOX decide on a 64 team league, I think there is room for everyone in existing power5 except 1 team (ND would have to join). My vote to drop is Boston College. I think however it would be great to have a second tier 64 team set-up and put relegation into play. The lowest 8 teams in the top tier have a playoff game and the top 8 of the second tier do the same thing. The losers of the top tier play a home game against the winners of the 2nd tier. If the top tier team loses, they switch places (relegated). This gives every school the opportunity to have access and I would find these games every bit as exciting and tense as the playoff games which brings excitement to games for both the top and bottom tier teams. For the top tier, 8 auto-bids, 8 byes. The concept of conferences would no longer be in play--- more like the NFL leagues. I would make players employees and I would tax the teams based on a progressive tax against their revenues. I would have the league manage medical and distribute the money to the players (so in this scenario, I'm taking out direct payments by the schools, alumni). Players get to share the wealth and with better equity.
@jmiller4280
@jmiller4280 2 місяці тому
W VA, Tech, Cincinnati and UCF will all be leaving the Big 12 for Big 10 or SEC. The Big 12 had better expand.
@stevekelly9509
@stevekelly9509 2 місяці тому
Wvu doesn't bring anything to either conf .stadium size is pathetic etc
@wallbangerzsports
@wallbangerzsports 2 місяці тому
Big XII going to give Clemson and FSU an unequal distribution. $70 Mill a year
@noelramirez1551
@noelramirez1551 2 місяці тому
And now would be the time to do it unless it depends how much power Utah has because they're the only ones I see that would vote no to giving FSU more money I think the rest would understand it's about survival
@CarlaJenkinsTV
@CarlaJenkinsTV 2 місяці тому
FSU has had 2 losing seasons this decade. No team that is 3-6 in 2020 and 5-7 in 2021, deserve $70 million per year. Notice that none of the TV networks (FOX, CBS, NBC, ESPN) are paying the $572 million that the FSU Board of Trustees quoted. That's because they aren't worth that.
@becks89
@becks89 2 місяці тому
Texas had unequal distribution for years through their Longhorn network and that caused major problems within the league so their is not an appetite to grant FSU unequal distribution.
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 місяці тому
Why wouldn't FSU just go to the B1G, with ND, to get their AAU membership and earn $200M+ yearly?
@becks89
@becks89 2 місяці тому
@@roris5882 this is their likely goal but right now ESPN holds their rights through GOR w ACC so that’s why this is either going to trial (not likely) OR FSU is going to pay an absolute fortune to buy their rights back.
@damascuslutin3956
@damascuslutin3956 2 місяці тому
BiG 12 expansion NC State 🐺 Wake Forest Georgia Tech 🐝 from ACC Memphis 🐯 and Tulane 🌊 from the American Washington State and Oregon State 🦫 from the PAC 2 and Uconn from independent/ Big East
@schs1977
@schs1977 2 місяці тому
GA Tech brings the Atlanta TV market, UCONN brings basketball but the other teams bring nothing to the BIg XII.
@damascuslutin3956
@damascuslutin3956 2 місяці тому
@@schs1977 Tulane 🌊 from brings the New Orleans market to combat LSU 🐯 in the state of Louisiana remember Tulane was once in the SEC yrs ago and they are close to the Texas schools mainly Houston
@tj3501
@tj3501 2 місяці тому
No Memphis - It's a hell hole.
@damascuslutin3956
@damascuslutin3956 2 місяці тому
Memphis 🐯 makes sense for the Big 12 it gets you into Tennessee they are upgrading the 🏈 stadium 🏟️ and they play @ the fedEx forum also home of the NBA 🏀 Memphis Grizzlies
@rickterry8991
@rickterry8991 2 місяці тому
No to os and ws. Too many libs just saying
@rodneycrow5729
@rodneycrow5729 2 місяці тому
It doesn’t matter anymore. Big 12 is dead. Worse than the mountain teams! Shouldn’t even be considered a power 5 conference anymore!
@rickterry8991
@rickterry8991 2 місяці тому
After the acc robbed the big east I have to laugh at this. I think the big 12 can have a east west division championship
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