Im not too happy with that instructor waving that AK about with one hand shooting. Not very good drills!

Getting stuck in mud has always been a problem with big heavy tanks! The trick is to avoid low lying areas which means you either know the ground ahead of you or you send out recon units first. This incident was an excellent training moment on how to get unstuck and why you don't send tanks out by themselves without back up.

I've learned 2 things from this video: 1. Heavy tanks should avoid waterlogged ground 2. British tankers did not have enough time to teach the Ukrainians water-loving plant recognition

Driving slowly into the mud was asking for trouble 🤦‍♂️

Not only would most tanks get stuck in that but they went in really slow. The second tank showed that the driver knew what to do and just kept the power, speed and most importantly chose a line that wasnt already churned up by multiple vehicles.

You see the reeds beside the stuck tank? They’re indicative of a permanent wet patch, an area that a tank, any tank should avoid. That’s a crew failure not a vehicle issue. The C2 was facing parts availability problems long before the tanks were gifted to Ukraine. With stored tanks being used as the only reliable source of specialty bits. The C2 is an old, end of life vehicle.

i would think she just needs an experienced crew or driver that knows its capabilities and can judge the ground ahead and drive accordingly

Mr. Hewes and his Foden is never around when you want him!

challenger stuck: This is really good training. learning first hand what can happen (getting stuck and why), how to avoid it, and how to solve it (stuck tank recovery). Thank goodness they're learning this on a training field.

I'm not upset at the instructor firing an AK to simulate battlefield conditions, I get that. I can even understand using live ammo because if I remember correctly, I once heard that live ammo and blanks sound distinctively different from one another? Correct me if I'm wrong, please. But what is absolutely unacceptable is not only how close he was firing towards their heads, but what is severely egregious is the fact that he waved it around single handedly like that. I understand it's war time, but how do you explain accidentally executing 3 soldiers during training because you were sloppy and lost your footing?

For those saying it’s a bad tank, it’s to heavy, it’s underpowered, bla bla bla. No. Challenger is a good tank. It just wasn’t build for heavy mud. There’s no tank in the world that’s immune to this issue. Russian tanks, German tanks and American tanks all have also faced this issue in the past. Challenger was built in a different age for a different battlefield. She did well in the desert sands where she didn’t have to deal with mud. She does well on roads where she doesn’t have to worry about getting bogged down by terrain. All tanks have weaknesses and strengths. Challenger is just in an area where its weaknesses show. There’s no such thing as an immortal tank. The only ones to claim so are the ones currently waging war against freedom. Do yourselfs all a favor and those whi wish to be properly educated on tanks and armored warfare please visit the tank museum.

The idea of training and exercises is to make mistakes whilst not fighting the actual enemy.

Any tank would get stuck in that.

Tanks don't go where bullrushes grow. First rule of tankers.

Although I don't disagree with the reports statement regarding Challenges getting stuck. I do believe, based on a few things, that this was a intentional training scenario. The Challenger drove through a existing tank track. And with the convenient target for small arms training as well as timely arrival of assistance makes me believe this is good training. Glory Ukraine.

Imagine thinking you're safe & then you get sniped by a tank 3 miles away! Bro, I'd be in the afterlife Mad AF!! 😭

That tank got stuck because of the crew

Mud will always be a problem for any tank.

it isnt too heavy thats just poor driving, any tank would of got stuck in that

Getting stuck is still excellent real world traing that you need to survive in combat situations. It has to be pracitced by all crews.

Any idiot would realise that with 50 plus tons of metal, you would not drive towards the mud. It's common sense, hours of getting stuck or get out and check out whether you can get through it.

I like how the title doesn't reflect at all what's in the video.

Drives tank into ditch --> it gets stuck --> why are you suprised?

That DS would have failed his LFTT course with that AK BATSIM.

Correction on the title: "the challengers we sent are ether destroyed or in Russias patriot park for display"

The instructor shooting an AK full auto, live ammo, one-handed at pupils... that's not gonna fly in the US.

The instructor firing live rounds into the trench just above his guys heads is a lunatic. Is he trying to kill or injure his men before they see battle.

Title incorrect...there was no actual blasting of any Russian enemy from three miles away on the front line in this film. Every bit of that statement is wrong .

How is it the tanks fault that people drive it into the mud, knowing how heavy and underpowered it is? What a weird thing to say.

2:10 This one handed simulation of being under fire seems unnecessarily dangerous. Still, WTF do I know?

Driving error, not just the weight of the Tank.

Driving into a "pond" is a good way to get stuck. Ukraine has a beautiful, deep soil layer which makes tank travel bad and growing crops good.

Challenger 1 has the record for the longest tank kill. Not challenger 2. Two very different animals. Widely available to be read about online and widely talked about in the community. And yet still a major news company couldn’t even get that right.

Anyone who's operated with Tanks can see this was a crew training issue , and they maybe even got stuck on purpose to train them in what to do this was a training exercise ,it's the place to find out the capabilities of equipment and correct operation. Driving through already churned ground is something to avoid in any MBT ,even the good old ARV's we gave them would struggle in that mud and they have the lowest track loading possible.

Thank you, UK, from a person of conscience in the US.

Maybe the King of Jordan needs to approached as he has hundreds of chalenger tanks in storage. Maybe they could be upgraded and be fitted with the new armour and weapons targeting equipment.

*"Challenger tanks blast Russian Forces"* *"Source?"* *"Trust me Bro."* *- Larper Jerome Starkey.*

What's most important: a) Mobility, b) Protection, or c) Firepower? The answer is really secret answer d) Target Aquisition and Fire Control. In the vast majority of tank-on-tank engagements, the first tank to fire an accurate shot wins.

Abdominal handling of a firearm and trigger discipline by what seems like a trainer at 2:08. Single-handedly firing an outline around the soldiers. After the scare tactic, put the rifle down, putting the path of the barrel directly over said soldiers without turning on the safety and keeping a finger on the trigger with the only hand/support on the gun. Also when dealing with attachments on the gun and still holding the gun one-handed, pointed the barrel at 2 soldiers' heads with a finger on the trigger. That man is going to kill a friendly one day, I would refuse to go near him while armed.

The longest tank kill was made by a Challenger 1 not a Challenger 2

calling leapord 1 a modern tank is a far fetch.

I know training has to be realistic but firing an automatic weapon single handed over exercising troops is a little unsafe given the high casualty rate in actual combat…. I’m not a health and safety geek but this is taking the p..s

Cr2 does not hold the longest kill....that was done by a Cr1 in Iraq.

The editor missed in one of the clips to cover the tank's markings 🧐

The Ukrainians said Challenger 2 was so under Powered!!!! And no doubt the British Army said the same at the time !!!!! When our Armed Fighting Forces go to War our Troops need the Very best Weapons and Equipment its as simple as that !!!!! GIVE OUR BOYS AND GIRLS THE BEST TO DO THE JOB !!!!

ANY MBT (Tank) can get stuck in rough wet terrain, especially if not driven properly. There hasn’t been an MBT in the world designed that will not get bogged in, in such conditions. If there was every tank would have that capability.

Challengers and Chieftain tanks performed really well in Iran/Iraq war (1980-88). British tanks are great, except for small engines, and I think the engine issue occurs since the add ons for protection and capabilities keep adding to the weight. The British tanks have EXCELLENT guns with great range and offer a lot of protection for the crew.

That’s a lie because all chally tanks got pulled from Ukraine after the first 1 got destroyed, your trying your best ever since the Russians destroyed 50 leopards and 3 abrams tanks, this is the same news outlet that labeled a leopard as a Russian tank

Russia doesnt have tanks more than 50 tons of weight. Guess why?

Always fun doing track repairs in the Mud. Pulling Sunk APC out of a creek due to crew failure to install all the drain plugs we used a M48A5 to recover the sunk M113A2. I taught armor Cav and anti-tank systems in the US Army reserve my crews I taught all raw active-duty recruits never had a track thrown or break even with badly worn tracks as I taught them make small corrections to avoid mud build up, look for hard ground and small gaps in creek banks and use enough speed to get across in one go. All the other instructors had thrown or broken tracks from over aggressive movements. Dealing with it in training is good as it instills caution needed for combat.

It's gonna get stuck if you drive it into a swamp. It's a 70tn tank, not a hovercraft. That massive open field and they aimed it directly into the only bog in sight. (probably because the journalist told them to for the content)

It's actually quite simple: If you know that the tank can't drive on soft ground, then you don't drive it on soft ground.

it's not stuck,. it's dug in for extra protection,.. 😅

Imagine, what will be in real battle…

I agree If you Train 50-80 hours a week, you should come across problems like this..... Avoid boggy waterlogged ground, stick to hard ground as much as possible.

That's not a field that's a lake with some mud...tank crews wouldn't drive into the ocean would they...let's see the the German, American,russian tanks have a go.

Any modern tank would get stuck in mud like that, the C2 was designed to fight in a European theatre of war ie the Cold War so don’t read too much into it bottoming out.

Say what you want about Journalists, but this is awesome. The high quality and brightness paired with a balanced dialogue and seeing the struggles they have to face and so on

Donated a year ago and still working, most impressive..

we in the UK value freedom and Ukraine is our defence priority. UK taxpayer

An excellent report…

Western Tanks where made for Tank battles in the fulda plain in western germany, not for ukraine terrain.

Lmao "take that Putin"! "Now watch as our inferior tanks get stuck and become overpriced stationary bunkers!" 🤣

Excellent report, cracking correspondent.

Why pixelate the Balkenkreuz painted on the sides of the turret?

As a firing platform it is immensely stable. Look at when firing how low the recoil is and how little the tank moves. You can see why it could accept an even larger cannon on a possible future revision for this platform.

Love the sun- it makes it easy to work out what’s fact and what Sun-anticy.

Any tank would get stuck in that…especially once stuck you just keep on digging it deeper

No wonder there struggling, even while training they took a 70 ton tank in a boggy area

This should be a lesson to Ukrainian tank drivers to not drive Into mud holes. Also be highly aware of minefields as they have lost more western donated tanks to land mines then direct combat.

Dude just one handing 7x62 like its a toy. I'm both amazed and concerned.

Look at that hollywood camera work at the start! They must be so desperate! 😂

That was very reckless and arrogant how the instructor fired live bullets with hand PERIOD ! Support Ukraine YES ! but have that trainer disciplined

Ben Wallace did say it was about the logistics of maintaining the tanks, that was more important than the number of tanks. We and the establishment pretty much ignored the defence secretary from 2014 onwards.

Why does this give me flashbacks to history class when they were describing reports of tigers getting bogged down in the east and only being able to be towed out with another tiger... seems this issue is still a problem today

0:49 "modern western tanks including the leopard 1"... wtf???

That shows me how Inexperienced the crews are using these tanks. Who would take a Tank like the Chally through the wettest and softest part of a field when there is firmer ground a few feet away.

the log is thrown under the tracks perpendicular to the movement of the tank in front or behind - depending on where it is more convenient to move - and secured with special cables. The car is started, the tracks climb onto the log and pull the armored vehicles out of the quagmire. Already in World War II, Soviet troops used logs everywhere. They were secured with chains and carried with them always. A tree trunk cleared of branches and attached to the tank body was called a “self-pulling log.” This device, ingenious in its simplicity, allowed the tank crew to quickly overcome impassable swamps,

Great report. If the challenger was getting bogged down. What awaits the Abrams on the wet soft Ukrainian battlefield. Germans learnt this lesson on the eastern fro nt. Big heavy tanks are no match for light agile smaller tanks and supporting forces.

DEAR DRIVER, please avoid pool size puddles :) tanks ! ( thanks )

are we really questioning the weight of a heavy tank

Where are the Russian invaders at 3 miles away? All i see is Challenger 2 is in training ground and not in the actual combat zone

Both sides have to deal with the challenges of the terrain & this video shows you just how hard it can be to advance quickly in Ukraine. I am surprised that in 2024 we have still yet learned how to solve this issue. At least make a Tank capable of being able to overcome 1 ditch.

I think they got stuck on purpose for training exercise

The melted snow and spring rains are going to make it virtually impossible to move almost all pieces of heavy equipment on both sides. Nature of the land.

Look at all those reeds growing in that low laying waterlogged ground, that looks like a perfect place to drive a tank said nobody ever. Honestly recon is vital if your going to move heavy armor about in unfamiliar ground.

Thanks, Sun.

What happened to the active armour? Doesn’t work?

I don't get it. When I was in a tank unit and was in a similar situation we would go around an obstacle like that when you knew what the result would be?

Soft ground is a problem for any heavy vehicle, the heavier the tank, the more of an issue soft and especially water logged ground will be, but lets not forget, a bad workman always blames his tools. The second crew managed to drive across the bogged ground, likely because they did so at an angle to ensure the tracks kept traction, the stuck unit went along the ditch and thus sunk, but this is the whole purpose of train, train, train, you learn to fight within the capabilities and limitations of your weapons system and you learn to turn weaknesses into strengths. The C2 is one of the most comepetent tanks in the work, if not the most, and to blame the tank because it was used in terrain is was not designed for is unfair on the equipment. Not knocking the Ukrainians, its a learning experience...however, I would add that a tank that is stuck in the mud in this way is still a fomridable weapons platform, the reduced silhouette makes it a much harder target for the enemy but as long as it's weapons systems are still operational, it can inflict punishing damage to any force that approaches it. As they point out, the C1 (not a C2) has the longest range "confirmed" kill in tank history at around 5000m (3.1 miles) - although there are claims that a Ukrainian gunner in a T64 used indirect fire, guided by a drone, to take out a Russian armoured vehicle at twice this range - around 10,000m (6.2 miles). This last one has to be confirmed yet, but it is plausible, although a one shot one kill does not work with indirect fire, it would take several shots with corrections to achieve the kill on a static target.

Wow everybody here seems to be an experienced tanker! 😂

What's the point in censoring the markings at 5:38 if you're just gonna show it off at 5:53?

For what it's worth the 120 main gun on an Abrams also rated for maximum engagements out to 5,000 meters (+/- three miles).

"That's the sound of an AK-47, the preferred weapon of your enemy"....Heartbreak Ridge.

Great report. Thank you sir, Glória à Ucrânia 🙏

in defense of western heavy tanks getting stuck in the mud,they were designed by nato to defend modern european roads and areas....nato built its tanks for defense nato never had plans to invade the soviet union....the russians built lighter assault tanks and armored vehicles because they did have plans to invade other more modern european countries,and are doing so now....

Tanks getting stuck I've seen quite a Russian APC carrying a log that they put across track to track shackling it in place and this digs in as the tank moves forward or backward and gets the APC out but not sure if it would work with tanks. Wouldn't be any use in a combat situation either though.

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It's a 60+ tonne machine! You can't expect to take it to the same places as old T72's which weigh half as much!

Low profile gives its belly not much height allowing it to beach itself More of a tank focused towards desert/dry/hot/arid conditions although as with all conflicts, you gotta do the best with what you have.