Building a Generator

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Tim Station

Tim Station

5 місяців тому

Build this generator: www.printables.com/model/6581...

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@Gh0sb0ss
@Gh0sb0ss 5 місяців тому
This actually gives people a very easy way of physically feeling how much power it takes to run different types of circuits, I think it would be a cool idea for a science fair or something
@thebirchwoodtree
@thebirchwoodtree 5 місяців тому
reminds me of a science museum that had a device with a hand crank and would let you try and power old lightbulbs vs new led bulbs and see how it's easier to power led bulbs
@KingJellyfishII
@KingJellyfishII 5 місяців тому
pretty sure they have something like this in the glasgow science museum
@kiburebuc
@kiburebuc 5 місяців тому
​​​@@thebirchwoodtreeSame at the Los Angeles Science Center, but it's a stationary bike there. There are, iirc, 5 incandescent light bulbs and 5 LED bulbs of the same light output that you can switch between powering.
@DiverseGreen-Anon
@DiverseGreen-Anon 5 місяців тому
@@thebirchwoodtree I saw this the first time when I was a kid and visited the "Abrafaxe Extavium" in germany. They had a bike with a generator and besides different light bulbs (incandescent, "Neon" (energy saving), LED etc.) they also had a toaster... After pushing the lever down the bike felt like it instantly slammed the brakes as it is actually quite a lot of energy to only keep the magnet engaged, nevermind feeding the heating coils with "only" ~600w xD. They had a lot of devices plugged into that bike for kids and parents to try out. I only remember these and a fan though
@ehhhhhhhhhh
@ehhhhhhhhhh 5 місяців тому
Many exercise bikes include this as a feature. They have watt readouts and you can feel how much a particular wattage is with your legs.
@Acamperfull
@Acamperfull 5 місяців тому
Once the supercaps are charged you can use them to start a car with a flat battery. This way you can (hand) crank start a modern car engine!
@bob2859
@bob2859 5 місяців тому
This is hilarious. I did the math and it looks like 100F is about right. That dragster bank is 100F, but I'm not sure about its voltage rating or ESR. There's also the old Electroboom video "Cranking a Car with Super Capacitors (Supercap)"
@jasonharrison25
@jasonharrison25 5 місяців тому
I have a bank of 6x 3000f supercapacitors in place of my car battery in my TDI. Starts very well if fully charged. I have a 5w solar panel on the roof and charge controller to keep it topped off if I'm not driving it. 6x in series is 500f. I don't recommend anything less after using it for about 10 years now. They will only give you one or two tries before the voltage is too low to start the engine. Another benefit is they charge up in seconds. So 10 seconds or so it's charged enough to reset the engine. Would be excellent for delivery vehicle, postal service, etc that have a lot of stops and starts. The few times I've had to jump it or put a charger on it to charge it back up took only q few minutes to be fully charged. A jump is only 10 seconds like when the engine is running. The cheaper jumper cables get hot with the amount of current running through them. I've also been able to jump start other larger vehicles and pickups with my car and a good set of cables. People are always scratching their head confused when they see it
@Let_the_nonsense_blaze.
@Let_the_nonsense_blaze. 5 місяців тому
Thought of the same thing. Also, I've got a few old tractors where handcranck+supercap could be a very usable solution.
@Parker-di7ef
@Parker-di7ef 5 місяців тому
@@jasonharrison25I’d love to see a video on this! I never heard of anyone doing that!
@luppano
@luppano 5 місяців тому
Or charge the phone. Crank hard a few minutes, and let the capacitors charge the phone for longer at lower power.
@renson2160
@renson2160 4 місяці тому
It's amazing how 4 chapters worth of topics of physics electronics have been covered in a single generator building video
@zescoot2590
@zescoot2590 4 місяці тому
Seeing something like this in action really makes understanding electricity way easier than just some formulas
@_Matyro_
@_Matyro_ 5 місяців тому
You should move to active rectifier instead of passive diode one. At these low voltages, you lose most of your power in the diodes at the moment. For ultra low drop diodes you will lose 0.2V per Diode which is around 10% for your voltages, for classic diodes (which you seem to be using) its 0.7V per diode resulting in quite a bit of wasted energy.
@nathansmith7153
@nathansmith7153 5 місяців тому
FERD diodes are about the same as a synchronous rectifier
@bgdwiepp
@bgdwiepp 5 місяців тому
Sm74611
@manitoba-op4jx
@manitoba-op4jx 5 місяців тому
or he could just use a commutator and a capacitor. no electronics necessary
@oliverer3
@oliverer3 5 місяців тому
​​@@manitoba-op4jxThen you're back to needing brushes. Not to mention that they're quite inefficient.
@fishyerik
@fishyerik 5 місяців тому
Oh, how surprised I would be if it turned out Tom wasn't aware about diode voltage dropout already. As the loss depends on the voltage he can also reduce losses by creating a higher voltage, and step it down afterwards, if necessary. Higher voltage and lower amps at a given power reduce losses in wires too.
@simiken1234
@simiken1234 5 місяців тому
Its super cool how electrical resistance turns to physical resistance with this thing. Would be a great learning tool for kids!
@markoap91
@markoap91 5 місяців тому
It's not really electrical resistance turning into physical resistance, it's electrical power turning into physical resistance. The more power draw you have the harder it is to turn. But I agree it would be a great learning tool for kids. This is actually true for any generator and is a part of the law of conservation of energy and not only kids but most people are not aware that generators are harder to turn the more power draw you have from them.
@megaman1997ful
@megaman1997ful 5 місяців тому
@@markoap91 what is the reason for the power draw causing more resistance?
@Kycilak
@Kycilak 5 місяців тому
@@megaman1997ful Because you cannot create energy out of nothing. The speed of turning the generator gives the voltage, but you may draw different current at the same voltage, meaning it has to be possible to generate different amounts of power using the same crank speed. The only things, that affect the power generated, is the speed and the force (alternatively the torque and angular velocity), and with constant speed, the only thing that may change is the force. Hence higher power draw causes the need for more force. As per the mechanics this is caused because the current flowing through the generator coils produces magnetic fields that oppose the change caused by the rotation of the magnets in rotor. When no power is drawn, no current flows, and there is no resistance (ideally). When the power draw increases, the current rises and the magnetic fields opposing rotation are stronger, hence one has to crank against more resistance.
@megaman1997ful
@megaman1997ful 5 місяців тому
@@Kycilak Thankyou for the detailed response! thats completely cleared up the confusion for me :D
@markoap91
@markoap91 5 місяців тому
@@megaman1997ful @Kycilak covered everything quite well. Nothing I can add to that.
@paulmelois
@paulmelois 5 місяців тому
I have an old Singer sewing machine stand that I've always wanted to repurpose as a manual charging desk; now I've got all the R&D already done thanks to you! Awesome job, thanks a lot
@matthewrodriguez6327
@matthewrodriguez6327 Місяць тому
That’s what o was thinking 👍🏼
@jtruant
@jtruant 5 місяців тому
Favorite content creator on UKposts. I’m a total electronics novice and feel like I come away with a much better intuition from your videos than I would from other types of learning. Definitely want to print this one!
@jana171
@jana171 5 місяців тому
Absolutely LOVE this project Tim ! Attach a propellor, and you have a windmill, add a battery, and you go offgrid camping with full 12V electricity available. Measure available Kw output and explain calculations for windings, batteries, magnets and such, and there's a scientific story to be told too. This could take you in every direction you'd please 🙂
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 5 місяців тому
Sure you can. The only difficulties are in storing enough until next charging. excellent project!
@flexairz
@flexairz 5 місяців тому
That's why wind power has failed massively. It's intermittent and not demand driven. Nice for small projects but not for large scale applications.
@jana171
@jana171 5 місяців тому
@@flexairz 🤡
@jarateman6427
@jarateman6427 5 місяців тому
@@flexairz Water works tho u just need flowing water. Instead of the handcrank u could add on a waterwheel.
@KitsuneKimmy
@KitsuneKimmy 4 місяці тому
@@jarateman6427 True, but it takes quite a bit of water to store energy using gravity. Unfortunately, the amount of cranking on a generator like this that would be needed for practical use would wear your arm out pretty fast! Might be better to hook it up to an exercise bike, though you would still get pretty tired.
@jaydeep-p
@jaydeep-p 5 місяців тому
Hand cranks get hard after some time but a foot pedal like those on sewing machines is significantly easier to turn for a long time.
@GeomancerHT
@GeomancerHT 5 місяців тому
Hamsters jay, hamsters!
@markifi
@markifi 5 місяців тому
there's so much power in the legs. 100-200 watts easy, for hours, even more power for a lot of people
@laflador_7691
@laflador_7691 5 місяців тому
attach it to your bike and you will be able to charge your phone during travels
@greasher926
@greasher926 Місяць тому
I was thinking the same thing, you could easily retrofit a spinning wheel (for spinning thread).
@camelmer02
@camelmer02 5 місяців тому
You have been the only person to ever successfully explain a rectifier to me. Thank you
@nerddwarf
@nerddwarf 2 місяці тому
"Don't know if I could spin it for an hour and 13 minutes" Just 3D print a small water-wheel, attach it to the handcrank, and mount the generator by a river.
@sgtbrown4273
@sgtbrown4273 5 місяців тому
Yes, I agree, you need a passive diode and definitely hook a super capacitor to it. Charge it for a few minutes and then it will charge your phone. That way you don't have to keep cranking continuously. Awesome project is always.😊
@dragoscoco2173
@dragoscoco2173 5 місяців тому
Well considering a standard phone battery has enough energy to lift a 2tone car 1 meter off the ground, you will need to crank that a while.
@KenR3D
@KenR3D 5 місяців тому
​@@dragoscoco2173so you're saying all I need is several dozen pulleys...
@dragoscoco2173
@dragoscoco2173 5 місяців тому
@@KenR3D With great leverage comes great amount of pull. Energy=Force x distance. The more you skimp out on the use of force the more distance you need to travel to produce said energy. 2tonnes lifting at 1m height. Or 100kg at 20m. Or 2 kg at 1km. Take your pick.
@TheJohnreeves
@TheJohnreeves 5 місяців тому
@@dragoscoco2173 That's not much energy. A car jack can easily lift the car in a few seconds. It's a car jack with a much higher "gear ratio". He's limited by the 1 amp output of the USB board he was using which is why it will take the amount of time his phone said it would take (a little over an hour). Maybe with a high power USB board so it can fast charge, but even that would probably take 20 minutes or more. I can lift a car in 20 minutes easy with the right leverage. Use a bicycle to power it instead and I can output enough energy to charge the phone in a couple minutes (but the phone would still need 20 or whatever it ends up being).
@dragoscoco2173
@dragoscoco2173 5 місяців тому
@@TheJohnreeves I totally agree that is not much for a human to pull off. It is roughly the equivalent energy of me climbing a 6th of 7th story building with my own weight. I could do it in 2 minutes casually. Yet that crank system is not geared or levered for such a feat in 2 minutes. What I tried to imply is just the amount of hand cranking necessary for a standard size phone charging.
@BernardSandler
@BernardSandler 5 місяців тому
This was fascinating. When it comes down to it, a generator/motor isn't that complicated. Always good to see that demonstrated.
@AlexusMaximusDE
@AlexusMaximusDE 5 місяців тому
I mean yeah.. these days we have access to materials and methods of manufacturing for home users which far exceed the capabilities and materials early specialists had access to.
@NandR
@NandR 5 місяців тому
My favorite daydream is going back to like 1200 AD and creating a generator. They had metallurgy. Copper and iron and magnets. Energy storage would be harder but running power from a water mill wouldn't be impossible. But using that power would be limited. Lights would be basically impossible to make. Motors would be relatively easy. Using it for heating could work.
@AlexusMaximusDE
@AlexusMaximusDE 5 місяців тому
@@NandR If you can build a generator, you can figure out how to make a motor and some gears. If you can make a motor and some gears, you can make a lathe. If you can make a lathe, you can make a vacuum pump. If you can make a vacuum pump you can do a low friction flywheel and lightbulbs. If you can do that, you can be burned for witchcraft.
@dragoscoco2173
@dragoscoco2173 5 місяців тому
@@AlexusMaximusDE The Energy equation implies that the early specialists could build this easily just heavier. We had at some point in time hand cranked army phones.
@AlexusMaximusDE
@AlexusMaximusDE 5 місяців тому
@@dragoscoco2173 So you are saying they could have built a much worse version with much more effort because they had access to worse materials and technologies. Cool.
@JackAllpikeMusic
@JackAllpikeMusic 5 місяців тому
I'd love to see a series of iteration upon this just like your planes - where you try and design better and better generators, finding what works best/worst and create the most powerful hand powered generator you can while keeping it reasonably easy to use and maintain.
@khaledadams4329
@khaledadams4329 4 місяці тому
That is so interesting to hear you say how much physical resistance it creates with a load. I want to try printing one of these now. Thanks for sharing!
@marsrover001
@marsrover001 5 місяців тому
Hand crank rail gun time? It only makes sense. The fallout 3 fans require it.
@jerremm
@jerremm 5 місяців тому
Potential upgrades, have a steel plate on either end of the rotor so the magnets have a low reluctance path and you'd have more magnetic flux. (or the same with less magnets) Also a freewheeling clutch thing for if you stop cranking and the rotor can spin freely.
@ransombot
@ransombot 5 місяців тому
Taking transformer plates and shoving them in the center of the coils would probably be better, for less over all weight. Like doubling the output power better. Would also be interesting to see ferrofluid in the center. More used in speakers as a lube for the driver & a flux enhancer but it should work there too.
@BronzSoldier
@BronzSoldier 5 місяців тому
What happens if you put coils on both sides of the plates that holds the magnets? I mean the parts where the magnets are should be open on the both sides and then you put coils on both sides of it. What would happen?
@ransombot
@ransombot 5 місяців тому
You have the problem of transferring power when you do that. Tend to ark and cause corrosion having you wires stationary makes it much easier. Unless you are just talking about making a stacking generator. He hints at that in the video when he talks about the series parallel configuration. You'd get more amp/volts depending on the configuration. The ends though waste magnetic field if it's not directed back in with some ferromagnetic material, or a Halbach array Generally want your ends to redirect the field back in where you are capturing the work. That said it's harder to deign and heavier so where weight is an issue you don't always or to the same degree. Worth noting that the coils when this happens generate heat, copper / aluminum are diamagnetic and appose the field around generating the power. More work More heat more coils even more heat. You'd run a good risk of a PLA generator melting without regulating that extra current or adding in thermal correction with airflow or convection. Not so bad with a hand crank but a wind or motor driven one would Definity suffer a meltdown. Much like an induction heater.
@markusw9455
@markusw9455 5 місяців тому
The low reluctance path needs to be laminated otherwise he will get huge eddy currents. Perpendicular to the direction of magnetic flux, a bit like arches. Maybe he will get away on bother outer sides with only a flat plate, since the field of the magnets is much more dominant compared to the induced field of the stator. Main benefit will be if he can provide a low reluctance path for the stator coils (filling coil with lamination). Big benefit with the axial machine is, theses paths are already short by design (different as in radial flux machines)
@ArktinenPeikko
@ArktinenPeikko 4 місяці тому
My daughter was just asking a few days ago about how electricity is made. This should be clear enough way to show and tell. Might even print a project for us to build out of this. Thanks for providing the link to the files.
@qerku_5640
@qerku_5640 5 місяців тому
Your explanation of a full bridge rectifier is the first one that I was able to understand! Thanks
@adamjc86
@adamjc86 5 місяців тому
Fantastic stuff Tim, this kind of tangible, real world, but simple project seems like a great way to get people into electronics
@joshua3291
@joshua3291 5 місяців тому
Cool video Tom, maybe you could make a stationary bike where the wheel charges through the same method, would be a lot less tiring than hand cranking
@artpam
@artpam 4 місяці тому
So interesting to see how you apply what you've learned in the past to new projects. Thanks for the 3D files, this will be a fun (and useful) project.
@foobars3816
@foobars3816 5 місяців тому
We need you to read through the comments and either tear them apart or use them to greatly improve the design. This is probably the most interesting project I've seen in a while on any channel. It's doable for the average person and super useful if they end up stranded somewhere without power.
@Maarrk
@Maarrk 5 місяців тому
Cool project, if I may add a safety concern is that you'd really prefer to use *female* XT60 connector on your generator. As is, the pins can be shorted easily by anything conductive, and that's why power sources should have female terminals - look at your batteries with the same XT60 plug, or even electrical sockets in the wall. Probably not an issue for this one, but it's a good habit to have 👍
@TimStation
@TimStation 5 місяців тому
Yes, that's correct. However, I wired it this way because it doesn't matter if the generator short circuits (the crank resistance just goes up). But if I charge a battery or capacitor, I don't want the wrong connector on them as that short would be far worse.
@Duamerthrax
@Duamerthrax 5 місяців тому
@@TimStation There's also 15 Amp Anderson Powerpole Connectors, which are genderless and protected on both ends. Regardless, you're right that the battery bank end is the one you need to worry about.
@jayw900
@jayw900 4 місяці тому
Not actually a concern in this use case.
@jonathanodude6660
@jonathanodude6660 4 місяці тому
shorting a hand cranked generator...??
@Demgore2-su4dz
@Demgore2-su4dz 4 місяці тому
I'm no electricity nerd so I have no idea what you mean by female-
@mennims
@mennims 5 місяців тому
Hey Tim, been watching you for over half a decade. Your generator came out beautifully. It looks amazing, seems to operate smoothly and work eficiently enough for it to have some practical use. It's great to see you do more electronics as well! Something I struggled with in electronics was understanding voltage and current and it's relation to watts and using the "correct" terms that other electrically experienced people will understand. I'd like to share a concept that works for me. Power = RPM x Torque Power = Voltage x Current I see RPM as Voltage, current as torque. When I look at the charged storage in your generator I imagine a metal flywheel spinning relatively slowly (low voltage) but with a lot of mass (available current). When that flywheel is charged, your brain may not think "what do I do with all this speed" (or volts), you may think of it in terms of power instead.
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 4 місяці тому
How incredibly generous of you! Looks like a really nice design, thanks for sharing.
@jayabratabiswas01
@jayabratabiswas01 4 місяці тому
Thanks Tom for sharing a beautiful project... 👍👍
@Bein_Ian
@Bein_Ian 5 місяців тому
After watching many electroboom videos I never could understand what a full bridge rectifier was, but your video made it seem so simple. I love electronics but can't wrap my head around them a lot. Thanks for the video!
@elliot6758
@elliot6758 5 місяців тому
hey tom! i built something like this just the other day, using a nema34 stepper motor. stepper motors are great for low rpm high voltage generators as that is how they're designed to operate
@SapioiT
@SapioiT 5 місяців тому
Next thing to do would be to get a bicycle, add a stand on both sides so you can pedal with the back wheel in the air, and then connect it to the pedals. Or maybe even make a custom bicycle pedal assembly to be able to charge a phone while cycling, regardless of whether stationary or not.
@danthanhhuynhpham685
@danthanhhuynhpham685 4 місяці тому
Im thinking more of using the motion of a rocking chair to run it So you can rest and charge at the same time
@skullmax3595
@skullmax3595 4 місяці тому
@@danthanhhuynhpham685 itd be impractical and i think if you wanna rest, a windmill type of energy generator would be best. The bicycle idea would work better ig.
@slurricrasher9923
@slurricrasher9923 3 місяці тому
@@danthanhhuynhpham685 A simple setup similar to this that could attach to either a spinning wheel like a bike or a dual pedal rocker for a chair would be one of the best camping accessory inventions ever.
@WOLFPACKED
@WOLFPACKED 3 місяці тому
oh i just made a comment about the kickr core - a bike smart trainer system that i think could be modded for this purpose exactly
@panther105
@panther105 2 місяці тому
This is brilliant. From some experience with hand cranked tools, having a little more weight to offset the crank handle can help smoothen the power input from your hands and help with the overall balance of the whole apparatus.
@chipcode5538
@chipcode5538 5 місяців тому
I think you can increase the efficiency by changing the coil design. As far as I know the part off the coil that is perpendicular to the changing magnetic field contributes the most to the output. The rest is just added resistance. Also you can increase the power of the magnetic field by adding a backing metal or hallbach configuration of the magnets.
@simonlinser8286
@simonlinser8286 5 місяців тому
Look at hard drive motor, coils shaped like wedges with rounded corners. Why? What you just said about the impedance reluctance resistance etc
@markusw9455
@markusw9455 5 місяців тому
This type of motor works well, it is called an axial motor. Backplate would be nice, but only if laminated perpendicular to flux direction. This would mean like an arch of bricks between each coil. Winding layout should be 3 coils for each pair of magnet (easiest, classical synchronous machine). And the interconnection should be diffenent. It sure works with all coils in line. But he gets big circular currents driven by voltage differences due to the coils seeing different fields - also depending on winding direction of the coils (clockwise, ccw).
@enriqueamaya3883
@enriqueamaya3883 4 місяці тому
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@aliawrang9503
@aliawrang9503 5 місяців тому
Great project. You could add a flywheel with a free hub so when you are not rotating the generator the flywheel could spin it for a while.
@ashurean
@ashurean 4 місяці тому
I'm a big fan of the pedal-type generators. Those are something I could see actually being useful in an emergency. They're a bit bigger, but if you lose power, it's easier to charge up a battery bank with your legs.
@heikoschwertner1050
@heikoschwertner1050 4 місяці тому
Thanks, from Switzerland for this video. Clear and easy to understand. I try to build this modell with my 3D printer.
@michroz
@michroz 5 місяців тому
Another idea for improvement is to put 2 thick steel discs on the outside of your magnetic rotors. I believe this would increase the magnetic field by containing it within the steel discs. Also this could somewhat increase the fly-wheel effect. Maybe the coils also could be wound around (or in-between) the steel cores to even better direct and improve the magnetic field.
@bosstowndynamics5488
@bosstowndynamics5488 5 місяців тому
High performance axial flux motors generally use either 2 sets of coils, one on each side of the magnet rotor, or 2 sets of magnets, either side of the coil stator, to maximise flux through the coils per unit weight. Obviously this doesn't need to be as optimised weight wise but I suspect a twin magnet setup would be better for increased flux density over trying to direct the field with steel
@yungu1776
@yungu1776 5 місяців тому
A nice piece of work! It would be great if you show us the actual usable peak current output off this generator.
@Mr.ky89
@Mr.ky89 Місяць тому
The air core hand crank generator is very wonderful. Thank you for sharing with the audience
@ankiesiii
@ankiesiii 4 місяці тому
Ive been on youtube since 2005, and this was probably coolest video ive ever seen.
@unrealcrafter2671
@unrealcrafter2671 5 місяців тому
If you wanna increase efficiency a bit you could wire your coils for a full wave rectifier instead of a full bride. A full wave has half the diodes and thus lower voltage loss. It does require more wire tho
@skrymerU
@skrymerU 5 місяців тому
That was fun. Would have been interesting to see how many amps it could generate and calculate the power.
@GewelReal
@GewelReal 5 місяців тому
maybe 20W
@TimStation
@TimStation 5 місяців тому
This video was meant to be a short build/info video for an upcoming video on my main channel. However, it's gained far more interest than I expected, so I'll be making a follow-up soon!
@specialneedsmolester1957
@specialneedsmolester1957 5 місяців тому
@@TimStationmake it into a mini wind turbine
@corpuschristihq4370
@corpuschristihq4370 5 місяців тому
@@TimStation Could you also please explain more in detail how you connect coils, diodes, capacitors, and mini digital voltometer? Any electronic schematic would be greatly appreciate.
@aloismapanzure
@aloismapanzure 4 дні тому
​@@TimStation Hi Tim, do you help with 3D printing prototypes?
@targetdreamer257
@targetdreamer257 2 місяці тому
Brilliant! It is a compact and elegant piece of equipment. That being said just a few minor design tweaks and you’re golden. 1. Broaden the base of it. That way screw holes can be integrated into it so as to be mountable. 2A. Alter the cranking part. Like having it so two hands can be use. 2B. Or Keep the two crank design so the hand cranks can be swapped out for foot pedals. 2C. You could even change it up so it can be rigged up so the stator can be cranked by a gravity battery. Suspend some weight in the air and connect that weight to the generator by s long cable.
@Deja117
@Deja117 5 місяців тому
You're inspiring me to take this design and change the gearing slightly. It works good and is easy to follow what you are doing, but I feel that there's a more efficient way to do it, albeit much more confusing to explain over a 12 minute video. Looks awesome! Can't wait to play with the design and learn from it. :D
@strawman9410
@strawman9410 5 місяців тому
Use the capacitor bank to a step down converter to charge a phone etc then once you charge the bank you won't need to keep cranking the handle. Mine powers LEDs for upto 45 minutes after 10 minutes of cranking. Thanks for sharing. Yours gives more power output than mine. 👍🇬🇧
@B0A2
@B0A2 5 місяців тому
Would love to see future iterations of this project perhaps on a bike
@anrchannel6341
@anrchannel6341 5 місяців тому
Totally awesome. Alot of kids can learn how generator works.
@londonnight937
@londonnight937 5 місяців тому
Tom, the only real way to know how much your generator produces is to get a maximum power point tracker and a suitable load for it. The load impedance must match perfectly the impedance of your generator, at which point you measure the power dissipated on the load, and that's your generator rating, for a certain RPM of the generator. Would be cool if in the next video you would do that, because I'm quite curious how much a hand cranked generator will make.
@veryInteresting_
@veryInteresting_ 5 місяців тому
If I had to guess it would be in single digit watts
@CoreyKearney
@CoreyKearney 5 місяців тому
I would add a clutch and flywheel to smooth out the cranking effort. And some Caps so you can crank around 15v to store that up. Cutting the cranking time by 2/3.
@footlongsubzero1128
@footlongsubzero1128 4 місяці тому
Absolutely loved this video. I love the way you explain things for my simple mind to absorb 🥴👌. I've learned a lot from this. Thank you 🙏
@JustPlainRob
@JustPlainRob 5 місяців тому
In my high school electronics class we had a really nice crank dynamo. We used to compete to hold it by the outputs and see how fast we could turn the crank before we dropped it. The gearing was strong, so I don't think anyone even got past about 50 rpm.
@CarlosChavez-gs1ld
@CarlosChavez-gs1ld 5 місяців тому
Hi Tim. I left you a message here several hours ago- and it disappeared. As a 55 year old Physicist, Scientist and Engineer who who has spent much of his life teaching and mentoring groups and individuals in various technical matters, it is sad to see someone run away from an opportunity to learn something helpful to their endeavors. As mentioned previously, you have done a great job on various mechanical aspects of this generator. Well done. I have built similar generators and your voltage measurements are very (like factor of 10 or more) low for such a device. This is a result of two primary factors- 1) Low flux density due to large air gaps, relatively thin magnets, and no focusing of the field lines. 2) Incorrect geometry of the coils related to the magnetic field lines generated by the magnets. When you mention HOW voltage is generated, you imply a "Reverse Lorentz Force Law" is at play- you show how the poles of the magnets align with each side of the coil, and that as those coil sides pass through the magnetic poles, a voltage is produced. That is not how an axial generator works, and the proof is in your generator. The poles of the magnet are reversed for each side of the coil, and SO IS THE DIRECTION OF THE CURRENT FLOW in the coil. If the Physics were as you say, your generator would generate little to no voltage as each magnet pair would be working against the other to produce voltage. The Lorentz Force Law is not something that works in reverse. If it were, essentially all motors would work great as generators- but in practice, the average motor makes a lousy generator. Voltage/Current/Power in a generator is created via Faraday's Law of Induction- it is the rate of change of the magnetic flux through the CENTER of the coil that counts..... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday%27s_law_of_induction
@hallenb328
@hallenb328 4 місяці тому
You didn't show the schematic for your series+parallel arrangement of the coils. The output of each coil will be AC, but at different phases from one another. If you have several out of phase coils in parallel, a lot of wasted current will be running between each coil and the mathematical sum of the voltages will go to the "output" of the group. You will generate (example) 10 kW of power but only be able to make use of 3kW. This will heat up the coils more than you probably expect and you'll have to derate the current capacity of the wires. A way to fix this is if you have a fullwave bridge on each coil, and you can combine the bridge output in series and/or parallel to your liking to get a more efficient generator. [There are other ways too.]
@stowjer
@stowjer 3 місяці тому
Brilliant! Great project
@maikolverasson1735
@maikolverasson1735 3 місяці тому
I had nothing to do with electronics so far in my life, so this was super fun to watch!
@0.Abdulrahmannn
@0.Abdulrahmannn 5 місяців тому
You have to balance the thickness of the wires you are using, with the number of turns and the wire resistance to maximize the output POWER, which should be the goal here. Then if you need more voltage you can use a boost converter circuit.
@noobulon4334
@noobulon4334 5 місяців тому
Often times in power electronics its much easier to start with a higher voltage, for example a full bridge rectifier will have the same drop regardless of voltage and thus your power losses as a percentage go down at higher voltage
@RandomBogey
@RandomBogey 5 місяців тому
8:34 there’s a calibration pot/screw on the back of the blue led volt meter to dial in the voltage readout
@Sembazuru
@Sembazuru 5 місяців тому
For what he is doing the readout is probably "close enough". But, yeah. Most decent voltage readouts like that have a small calibration pot for when it matters.
@GunesToksoz
@GunesToksoz 5 місяців тому
Man! This is an incredible project! I watched the video with excitement until the end. Keep on doin' it! Love from Turkey.
@patrickderp1044
@patrickderp1044 5 місяців тому
ive seen like 4 other youtube channels do this same project......and im gonna watch every time
@teambadengineeringchoices1368
@teambadengineeringchoices1368 5 місяців тому
Very cool. I do wonder if it would be more effective to make the crank a bit shorter to raise the overall rpm of the large gear, though, I don't have this thing in hand, so maybe I am imagining it in a very different way and it would just be less practical as you would technically be exerting more energy to rotate the crank.
@duduengeletronica
@duduengeletronica 5 місяців тому
Legal. Seria interessante para esse mesmo projeto, comparar a eficiência para diferentes quantidades de fases, tais como 3, 5, 7 e... 11 fases. Será que tri-fásico continua a ser o mínimo para um sistema eficiente?
@stephenmontgomery5807
@stephenmontgomery5807 Місяць тому
Excellent video. I am going to make one when I return from a trip. Thank you for this
@NakedSageAstrology
@NakedSageAstrology Місяць тому
You're amazing thank you! I want to print this so my son and I can learn how different sized coils, gear ratios, wire gauge, magnet placement and number of magnets affect the output.
@InAJamAgain
@InAJamAgain 4 місяці тому
FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER
@thatguychris5654
@thatguychris5654 2 місяці тому
They should have one of these in every school's science class. When kids understand how much effort it takes to power something, they might appreciate how energy dense fossil fuels are.
@rockyrodriguez2351
@rockyrodriguez2351 3 місяці тому
Neat work and detailed, thanks for sharing.
@nekihrvoje
@nekihrvoje 5 місяців тому
Love your work!
@TDOBrandano
@TDOBrandano 5 місяців тому
You could try lighting up a 220v LED lightbulb. Depending on the driver being used they shouldn't mind being run on DC, and unless they use a capacitor dropper they should work on a large range of voltages. By the way, have you considered adding multiple stacks of coils and magnet disks?
@GodmanchesterGoblin
@GodmanchesterGoblin 5 місяців тому
I'd go with a 12 volt MR16 LED bulb. They generally include dc-dc converters and many operate quite consistently between around 8 to 16 volts. They also include rectification at the input.
@Spedley_2142
@Spedley_2142 5 місяців тому
Would be interesting to see if you can engineer it for using leg muscles instead of hand. Hooking it to your shoe and hanging it from your belt would allow you to use the far larger muscles in your leg. Charging at battery bank at 12V and 5A could be done in a few minutes but would give a whole days mobile phone charge.
@AtkataffTheAlpha
@AtkataffTheAlpha 3 місяці тому
As someone who likes to fidget, this is pretty neat but also has a function that i can use to power or charge something. Also how simple generators really are.
@littleSchmiggy
@littleSchmiggy 4 місяці тому
lovely video. I really enjoyed the content. gives me a good personal connection to power generaion.
@blacklight683
@blacklight683 3 місяці тому
0 electricity blender
@ALE199-ita
@ALE199-ita 5 місяців тому
I had this idea that I don't have the time to do but always wished to do. Instead of using an handcrank generator, what if you use a Stirling Engine that powers the Generator? It shouldn't be too big and it could provide passive power if you say make some tea or something.
@matthewsemenuk8953
@matthewsemenuk8953 5 місяців тому
Very cool. I wanted to build something like this as a kid and turn local muskrat dam into a hydro electric one.
@andiback
@andiback 4 місяці тому
Great video, just use a Delon bridge circuit at the output. That circuit doubles the alternating voltage and rectifies it to DC in one turn for your purpose with only 2 diodes and 2 capacitors. Giving you a higher output range and also enough voltage when cranking with slow speed, afterwards stepping down to 5V USB e.g. as you show.
@lawrence1md
@lawrence1md Місяць тому
You should have put coils on both sides of the magnet array
@viermidebutura
@viermidebutura 5 місяців тому
One thing i noticed among all DIY generators videos is no matter how nicely looking the generator is made it always fails in the magnetic circuit part thus the generator will always run with an abysmal efficiency
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 5 місяців тому
Yeah. Nobody ever seems to have the foggiest about magnetics design.
@mylittleparody2277
@mylittleparody2277 5 місяців тому
Well then, please do enlight us and teach how to make more efficient generators.
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 5 місяців тому
@@mylittleparody2277 get rekt, people pay me for things like that
@mylittleparody2277
@mylittleparody2277 5 місяців тому
@@godfreypoon5148 Then stop yelling at free content if you are not willing to give freely yourself...
@somethingstupid699
@somethingstupid699 4 місяці тому
Thank you for your service to your fellow humanity, keep it up!
@derklempner
@derklempner 3 місяці тому
I like this build. As for not wanting to crank the generator for more than a few minutes at a time, you could solve that by converting it into a pedal crank and use your legs/feet instead.
@gshingles
@gshingles 5 місяців тому
Very nice design. I don't know if you've seen Robert Murray Smith's channel, but he uses serpentine coils which seem like a lot less work to make, to me. :)
@paradiselost9946
@paradiselost9946 5 місяців тому
serpentine coils. ahhhh, stupidity at its finest! go look into "jacobs law". a serpentine coil, by its very nature of construction, limits the amount of power that can be delivered to a load, and instead forms a load itself, and WASTES power as heat in its own resistance. go back to the demonstration of eddy currents, lenz law... dropping a magnet in a pipe. start THINKING about it. what if you cut the pipe? what if its a coil? what if theres a resistor across the cut you made? across the coil? what happens to the magnet? to the lenz reactions aka eddy currents? what is current, what is voltage, anyway? when you start to get an idea of that, you might see these videos for what they really are. trash. they all do the same thing and fail to show anything at all of any merit, and they all just go over the same basic BS... no more. yknow whats sad? that youtube proliferates all these half baked ideas based on miseducation and lack of knowledge on basic fundamental principles... this video was another demonstration of how not to do things, half understood principles, with no attempt to apply well over a century of acquired human knowledge and experience. "just wave magnets (of unknown strength? with no thought of reluctance or the most efficient magnetic circuit?) past some wires (of no given size, length, resistance) wound into coils (of no known inductance or turns) and generate electricity! wow! its magic! and and and... its axial flux!!!! and i used a full bridge rectifier, and made yet another explanation of how a rectifier works... like there arent enough already... and i made sure i had an animation or two..." whatever. i guess im just a troll... :D
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 5 місяців тому
I think has channel is best avoided, its full of BS as he's only into UKposts for the views and money.
@strawman9410
@strawman9410 5 місяців тому
An even easier build and more powerful is Robert Murray Smith thunderbolt generator. Think he got 150V out of it. Really impressive. Just went round the bolts in a big circle. Easier than his serpentine. With offset magnets to reduce the drag.
@paradiselost9946
@paradiselost9946 5 місяців тому
@@strawman9410 150v into what LOAD? what resistance? how many amps? how many WATTS? and how much power did it take to SPIN? how EFFICIENT was it? did he talk about that? did he mention that? did he test that? 150V means nothing. theres a potential difference of 150v or so from my head to my feet, atmospheric electricity. doesnt do much, does it?
@strawman9410
@strawman9410 5 місяців тому
@@paradiselost9946 go check his upload called THUNDERBOLT all the information you want
@thatonneguy
@thatonneguy 5 місяців тому
I feel like the maker community is going down a very predictable path, and I'm finally starting to catch up. About 10 minutes before this vid popped up for me, I was wondering if this exact thing would be possible. Every time I think "I wonder if this is possible", I discover it was already done quite some time ago. I'm only 6 days late for this one, and it's the first time I've seen your channel. If I'm correct.... are we really about to be printing clean energy with 3d printers? I'm stoked.
@jarateman6427
@jarateman6427 5 місяців тому
If course its possible people have made gens like this for years by using bikes + and alternators. Its all the same. Turn it using wind,water,hamsters etc
@TheRedRobin96
@TheRedRobin96 4 місяці тому
I know it's not producing a lot of power but I feel like something like this should be in every household.
@biervampir6
@biervampir6 5 місяців тому
Hi Tom, how about a bicycle pedal powered generator that supports USB-C PD? I could imagine charging a large Powerbank or maybe a laptop directly while sitting on a chair and using your legs. Could be a nice gadget for camping or survival stuff or so.
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 5 місяців тому
Pedal powered generators are cool I've made a few in the past. If you connect it to a 12V battery it's easy to find regulators and chargers to power all sorts.
@rodnyg7952
@rodnyg7952 4 місяці тому
yes, it's a hand crank generator. They've been around since the late 1950's. Not practical at all for charging a smartphone
@user-in3br2qs8x
@user-in3br2qs8x 3 місяці тому
I can push out easily ~60 W with handcranking. I can charge 3 phones/hour with 60 watts via USB. so it IS practical to have tech like that. Especially since hand-crankers are cheap. they cost only 100$, but are really quite powerful. Imagine you would have no house. You could power nearly everyhing that way. Price is: the pedal-generators are expensive. So with this lowend 5W/10W-Handcranker here you can really have "fun", charging just one phone/hour. It wouldn´t even be fully charged in one hour. But on my handcrankers you can charge so much more and on my pedal-generator you can even charge 4 TABLETS/hour. This assumes a 36Wh-battery used in each tablet. 4 tablets equals 160Wh. 10% power-loss (160W/hour - 10% = 144Wh left netto after USB-conversion = 4 x 36Wh for each tablet 36Wh). My Pedal-Generator can do PD and enables superfast-charging via 12V-Cigarette-Ligher Plug. 10% USB-loss is only because i use a GAN-capable Superfast-charging Cigarette plug.
@rodnyg7952
@rodnyg7952 3 місяці тому
@@user-in3br2qs8x you make no sense. The most anyone can generate from hand-cranking would be 5 to15 watts. That means for every hour of continuous hand cranking you can run your laptop for about 6 to 10 minutes, or smartphone for about 16 min. You'd have to continuously crank most of your life away in order to regularly use any tech. So, silly person, you'd better get cranking, lol
@user-in3br2qs8x
@user-in3br2qs8x 3 місяці тому
No. Most hand-crankers today can handle 30-40 Watts. Not 10-15 Watts like you claimed. You get this only with 12V output though, as with USB-output 50% of watts is lost because of voltage-conversion. That´s a user-problem though if he wants to charge via USB. I don´t use USB-charging in most cases so i don´t have this problem. My handcrankers can even handle ~50 W max. Though with these old motors the resistance is very high, so you can only reach 40W on these realistically with human hands. I use a pedal-cranking device where i use HANDS instead of feet. I get easily 60-80W here via hands, since my hands have really gotten very powerful in the las 6 monhs. But my pedal-generator can handle up 200W. And realistic are 120W for me currenly/hour.
@rodnyg7952
@rodnyg7952 3 місяці тому
@@user-in3br2qs8x ....you're a dingbat
@rodnyg7952
@rodnyg7952 3 місяці тому
@@user-in3br2qs8x you babble a lot
@raffaelemagni3078
@raffaelemagni3078 5 місяців тому
loved this video, really appreciate your work, thank you
@PepiczekKnedliczek
@PepiczekKnedliczek 2 місяці тому
Hello, great job and a very well-made and objective film. Fantastic attention to detail. Way to go!
@samloose7526
@samloose7526 28 днів тому
Really cool! Nice to watch a practical application of my A-Level Physics content, executed really well too!
@josephisvr2947
@josephisvr2947 4 місяці тому
my favorite engineer :)
@FerdausAlAmin
@FerdausAlAmin 4 місяці тому
Great initiative and very easily described... Thank you..
@akhilbudhal6848
@akhilbudhal6848 4 місяці тому
As a South African, this + a hamster is gonna help a lot. Thank you
@madkvideo
@madkvideo 5 місяців тому
Great project!
@AlfredoAntonioMartinez
@AlfredoAntonioMartinez 5 місяців тому
Excellent and looks very beautifull!
@mjktrash
@mjktrash 5 місяців тому
Nicely done!
@BorisBIELECKI
@BorisBIELECKI 5 місяців тому
This morning on my way to work, I thought "it's a long time Tom did not post a video". I love those coincidences.
@lindonwatson5402
@lindonwatson5402 5 місяців тому
outstanding Mr Tom
@Walburris
@Walburris 5 місяців тому
Very cool! Thanks for such a great video!
@xxz4655
@xxz4655 5 місяців тому
Missed opportunity to leverage gear ratios to speed up the magent even faster awesome project thank you sir
@generallaboratory2731
@generallaboratory2731 4 місяці тому
Fantastic...A Good way to generate a power
@lawrencemanning
@lawrencemanning 5 місяців тому
It should be possible to get a glow out of a household AC filament bulb using this setup. We had something very similar in GCSE science about 35 years ago. It really drove home the equivalence of difference energy types to actually feel with your own hands how much harder the crank was to turn when the light was switched on. Not sure PLA would take the forces needed though.
@niklu4038
@niklu4038 4 місяці тому
awesome project, thanks
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