That's not true in my opinion. The video from gotham about puzzles was more detailed. Nelson didn't show in this video the line with Ng3 in the scenario, where we captured the bishop and let the pawn push✌🏻

4:25 move knight to g3. Protected by bishop and threatens Queen advancement

İf you can remember this in a week you are likely a GM too

@@Tylke haha 😂 lol

I scrolled down on your channel and I don't consider it a waste of time so who is the real winner here

@@Tylke If you're up a piece in an endgame against a GM you're likely a super GM.

@@denisl2760 then he's also likely a super GM, and he will foresee these forced line and surrender to avoid humiliation

No. Black plays f2 and the king enters with Kg4-f3-g2 and promotion.

I was thinking this too, but as Nobody Really already mentioned, the pawn can still safely promote if covered by the king. The bishop can try to blockade / take the pawn, but then you'll lose either the bishop or knight in the process, forcing stalemate.

@@pimpsauce Thus the outcome for this case will be draw

@@luuduonghy659 Yes.

Absolutely No !! Coz the black can manage to get the king to G2 before the white king can reach to E2 , and then after promotion , Knight takes , then king takes the kignt and the new situation is the white only has one bishop against the black king which can't force a checkmate.

Even GM's will no longer pause the video 🤣😂

they only look tough most moves are actually quite forcing

@@justarandomanimegirlpassin5341 not for me lol, I can't even beat the lvl 1 chess bot

chess is not hard people that teach chess and makes courses wants you to think it is but its just not all you do in this game is just gather information most chess players just dont do that instead they just follow braindead chess principles wanting quick results which they get but not much more

@@justarandomanimegirlpassin5341 I'll be sure to pass all this on to Magnus Carlsen. Thank you for your thoughts.

Agreed. This is the most amazing puzzle I have ever seen!!!

Yes a lot of things are hard to explain clearly . There are a lot ofoftitled titled players that understand the game well in an intuitive way however they are hopeless at articulating the how and why of chess. In fact Magnus Carlsen is one of them. I have seen manythe videos of him explaininga things and he is hopeless at articulating what needs to be understood maybe he just assumed it's obvious and not much needs to be explained.

Good luck

Good luck

ended 2-2, in case anyone was wondering

@@Drew_goo Pretty good for your first OTB tournament. You'll do even better next time.

@DrewGoo Nice! 2-2 is not bad at all!

After g3 stockfish says it’s a draw, as they push pawn to f2 and then walk their king to g2, trading the knight for the pawn and thus draw by lack of material

@@frostythesnowman9306 not really because white can close in with the king as long as the bishop is covering it the king cant touch the knight and in one move the knight can not only check the king but force the pawn not to move you could squeeze the game without losing your pieces

@@dragoneyeshatesg00gle76 cool, you know more than stockfish? What's your ELO? Like 3800 or something?

Actually no, it won't be a draw, I calculated the moves and I found a way to keep the black king in checks and eventually let the king part from the pawn with knight and bishop... You can also use the king, but It's a much longer steps...

They don't, this puzzle was created in 1945, and while Liburkin at the time thought that was the only good move for black, modern chess engines think the best move there is actually Kf3. White still wins eventually either way, but it takes much longer to checkmate after that move then g5. It's still a great puzzle overall, such a fascinating position after g5

@@Trepur349 WTF, Created by 1945 world war II You have to be kiding me....

One interesting line is Kf3 Nd4+ Ke4 Ne6 Kd5 Nxg7 Kxd6 Nf5+ forking the king and bishop with an easy knight+pawn ending.

... and 1. Kg8 might even be shorter ( to Mate! )

That's another "fascinating" option but I would sac the knight just to get the king on the second rank. Just push the white pawn. If Black declines the sacrifice to threaten your pawn just a move to white Kg6 protects it. The black pawn is doomed really since the Black King can't save it and white can just come and get it, willing to trade pieces to clear the way for the white pawn. If Black King does accept the Knight Sac he is too far away to help in the real battle. White Bf8. White is willing to trade their Bishop for both the Bishop and pawn so black may as well finally move their Bishop, losing the pawn. Still, with white chasing the Bishop out of useful diagonals willing to trade, there will be a pawn coronation. Black could not afford their king being so far away, allowing white free moves.

Black won't go pawn f1 lmao... King will play afterwards...

Had the same thought

No, black will move the pawn to the end under the protection of his king (Kg2). If you take the piece, you will lose the knight and it's a draw.

@@theneoreformationist keep the king in checks, duh... Separate king with pawn with bishop and knight by checking the king endlessly till it moved away... If you need some guarantee, you can mobilize white king, but not preferable because it takes out white's tempi for checks...

@@amoldivo You can't even put the king in check. Move the bishop and he'll take the knight. Move the knight and it's not defending the square anymore.

@@theneoreformationist you don't have to put the knight to defend the square at all times zzz =,= as long as you keep the king in check! The pawn won't go anywhere lol Ng3 pf2, Nf1 Kf3, Nd2 Ke3, Nf1 Ke2, Ng3 Ke1, Bd4 Kd1, then mobilize the white king for support, black only moves were either king towards bishop which doesn't accomplish anything, or promoting pawn into anything but will get captured right away anyway...?! So it's simply white wins?! Notice every time white moves, black king got checked so it has to move... Not sure which point you were trying to say lol

​@@amoldivo It's a decent strategy, but it won't force a win. All the king has to do is move on a white square the knight cannot reach in one move to avoid check. In the example you gave, the king on f3 could move to g2 and force a draw. Or the king on e2 could move to f3 (not e1), then to g2 on the following move, forcing a draw. the knight would have to move twice to put the king in check again, but that would allow the pawn to advance. Continually moving the same pieces back and forth would also be a draw, and there's nothing stopping black from trying that if you have to keep his king in check.

No, black got a draw.

Short answer f2

@@W.E. So what though? The promotion square is covered, so the black king would need to get involved

@@Qril The question was: " what happens if I were to move Knight to g3 at 4;07 ? " " I replied f2. " ... and the Position is Drawn. Let me know if you have other questions.

@@Qril Let me know if you have other questions. If: Ng3 Kh4 Nf5 leads to much badness for Black. OR . . . If: Ng3 Kh3 Ne4 leads to much the same for Black.

The king will just follow the pawn and it will be a draw?

After promotion knight takes and long takes back leaving white with only a bishop and king. White king too far away to stop

No because the Black King can capture whatever piece captures his pawn. That is a draw, not a win.

Black would move their king to a square next to f1, and promote. And when you take it's a draw (if you don't take black gets quite a nice advantage). Black's king gets there faster than your king, so the draw is essentially forced.

I think I found it. After 3 ... Kxf5, the straightforward way for the Knight to f6 seems to be g3. Then the black King can go to g4 which gets him in reach of h5 but frees e4 for the Knight to get to f6. Knight to f6 checks the King on h5 and after the black King flees to h4, the white Bishop can check him again, forcing him to retreat even further, which gives the Knight enough room to go to g8 and then capture on h6.

exactly what i thought

then f2 followed by King f3-g2 supporting pawn promotion

@@bornon221269 why didn’t I see that

1. Ng3 f2 2. Nf1 Kf3 3. Nd2+ Ke2 4. Nf1 Kxf1 5. Bg3 Ke1 6. Bxf2+ Kxf2

@@bornon221269 so then it instantly gets taken by the knight so as its promoted. No need to move the knight or bishop around after knight to g3.

i dont think Ng3 works that would result in a draw. The entire puzzle is that you need to try to win. A pre-requisite is that you can checkmate with bishop and knight

@@interesting3956 oh, forgot we were going for a win. lol

No, black got a draw.

I was thinking this one too, i tried it and it seems to be winning for white

@@later1245 it might end up trading a night for a pawn, which ends in a draw

If white moves Ng3 black simply pushes the pawn and white has no way to stop it from promoting

After Ng3, f2 is drawing as the only way to prevent promotion is to trade the pawn with one of your pieces. After f2 you have no useful moves (engine suggests Nf1, Bb8 or Kg6, all "+0.09") and Black will play Kf3 or Kf5, getting closer to their pawn to take back the knight on f1 after promoting.

@@conradbamboozled1653 how would you lose a knight? If its protected and you wouldn't have to move the bishop at all or the knight after g3. Basically it will turn into a stalemate between 2 kings moving around the one piece or the black getting to the pawn in which case opens up plenty of moves for the bishop to play on the black to move it forward.

Bg1

What if the king move to f3 instead of pawn to g5

Ng3 No, black got a draw.

No, black got a draw.

No, black got a draw.

No, black got a draw.

Again wrong

To which position are you referring?

No, black got a draw.

No because black's king can go to h3 and then g2, and after that it is just a draw.