spartacus motors ahead on Muur van Geraardsbergen to win 2010 ronde van vlaanderen.
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@9Ballr9 місяців тому
Wow, Cancellara was really motoring up that climb, wasn't he?
@StopTheRot9 днів тому
😂
@Turk3YbAstEr10 років тому
tom boonen's "suffering" and "fighting the bike" is lightyears faster than I could go up that hill
@warrenvazquez10 років тому
it's incredible - he is one of the elite and he is suffering at the hands of cancellara. most of us would have climbed off the bike miles before
@Tonytestcase5 років тому
Did Boonen change his gear a couple of times? There are moments when his pedal speed is lower, before the gap is growing.
@DanielSong394 роки тому
Only way I get up that hill is by climbing off the bike
@Mgs94475 років тому
Ahahahah the next video UKposts suggests me is "GCN - Are e-bikes fun? Road bike vs e-bike".
@DanielSong394 роки тому
Well you see the difference in this video
@joshschrader47323 роки тому
As likely as QAnon
@DanielSong396 років тому
FYI, Boonen gained time on every other rider in the field in the Muur. That should give you some perspective on how fast Cancellara went up the climb.
@william6171Рік тому
Annemiek van Vleuten in 2020 Omloop het Nieuwsblad went faster up it than Cancellara in 2010 Ronde
@jeroendekort5696Рік тому
Na hoeveel km moest Annemiek de muur op?
@ShitinthemorningРік тому
Boonen had a gear problem, why nobody can see that?!
@jaysimoes3705Місяць тому
It is not the whole climb that is important here. It is that Fabian went only in the last 300 m or so and that is where it is amazing/suspiscious.
@tomvermeulen8003Рік тому
I used to give cancellara the benefit of the doubt. But after discovering the very very sneaky second bike change I think its very unlikely he didnt do mechanical doping. Cancellara had a mechanical issue and did a first bike chance. The main mechanic jumps out of the car and gives him a new bike. A few km's later Breschel has a real issue and requests a new bike, but the main mechanic isnt in the car anymore resulting in Breschel getting the wrong bike, losing a lot of time and never returning to the front. A few km further the images show Cancellara suddenly sitting on his original bike. What happened, at the point where cancellara did his first bike change, the stage makes a loop. The mechanic had to walk 500 meter to get on the other part of the stage. What does amateur footage reveal. In a turn everybody where makes the short turn, Cancellara goes wide where the main mechanic is waiting with the original bike and you see Cancellara do a lightning bike swap. Its a sad thing but after all these years i am convinced Cancellara cheated.
@HolgerDanske8749 місяців тому
I don't understand. Why wasn't any of this caught by cameras in a race like this?
@grzejnikMilosz8 років тому
This actually should be put to a scientific investigation. Physicists should calculate how much (more) power you need to output to build so much advantage in a couple seconds on a steep more than 10% (average I believe it was more than 10% at this very moment). Someone who cycle anything in his life and when put this into one's head knows exactly that this situation is just iconically ridiculous.
@DanielSong397 років тому
It's like the Froome acceleration up the Ventoux in 2013. A 1000+ watt surge within a couple seconds that takes place without visible effort from the rider.
@skinny557727 років тому
They should compare his time in the video to the Strava segment for it. If it's the same for some random strong guy doing 600 watts then it's probably legit.
@oldtwinsna83474 роки тому
Just estimates out of my butt after using Zwift for so long: Boonen was probably putting out a solid 600 watts at that moment and when seeing Cancellara motor away raised that to 700-800 watts. Cancellara's distancing would make the output well over 1400 watts. That's the kind of power unleashed in a sprint, which Cancellara had no pedigree for, plus he doesn't even show strained signs of that kind of power being made.
@DanielSong398 місяців тому
@@oldtwinsna8347 Cancellara actually has had top 5 finishes in bunch sprints but yeah you're not going to do 1400 watts+ there without putting in a visible effort
@dunkulusjones45644 місяці тому
@@oldtwinsna8347 please show your calculations
@jellevanthuyne19842 місяці тому
and there my grandson, the e-bike was born
@scandinavianboys43437 місяців тому
100% motor can’t believe I didn’t saw it when I watched it live in 2010
@sparx5509 місяців тому
It’s almost like cancellara has a hidden motor in his frame.
@SSVukicМісяць тому
All his win was with hidden electric motor.
@josdenis36848 місяців тому
Cancellara had a very “special” bike that day. And also in Paris-Roubaix.
@alexp2473658 місяців тому
This was the day my hero died....
@lucmeeussen9714Місяць тому
Prove it or shut up.
@el_vee_eeМісяць тому
Slechte verliezers
@oceanedetotes28 днів тому
@@lucmeeussen9714 close your eyes doesn't turn the light off
@jansnauwaert17852 дні тому
@@lucmeeussen9714 Indeed, all this is (stupid) gossip. If you can't prove it, shut up indeed. Cancellara was an exceptional champion.
@robertob.27722 роки тому
No one can convince me that he wasn't motorized, especially if you see also the video of Paris Roubaix of a week later...
@nicolasdelaforge74206 місяців тому
He needed no motor to win 6 world titles in TT, when he could not have cheated.
@zoulouzoulou47266 років тому
La caméra écrase beaucoup l' image , mais pour l' avoir déja fait en VTT , c est un véritable mur , la pente est impressionnante !! Ce que fait Cancellarra est inhumain , quelque chose cloche et je m' etais deja fait la reflexion en direct
@mr0totonio2 роки тому
EBIKE
@simonrano807227 днів тому
il y a que 50 m à plus de 14 %, le reste à 10 % ou moins. C'est pas si terrible et le pavé est très régulier. La côte de la ferme Libert fait la même longueur mais sa moyenne est au niveau de la pire portion du Grammont. Le Koppenberg aussi est bien plus raide que le Grammont avec un pavé bien plus mauvais mais sec pas besoin d'un VTT
@JumpingWatermelons3 роки тому
I will always remember this attack, because afterword, Tom Boonen said (paraphrasing): "I didn't have any problem there. I was riding well. When he attacked near the top, I was doing 900 watts, but he was still riding away. " (It turns out, Cancellara had a max power that day of 1450, probably during that attack)
@roebbiej2 роки тому
His motor* and cancellara combined was 1450 watts
@kahtering35552 роки тому
Motor Doping
@gimmigimmigimmiРік тому
900w on a climb? you clearly don't know what you're talking about. maybe try riding a bike once?
@JumpingWatermelonsРік тому
@@gimmigimmigimmi you don't think Tom Boonen could make 900w while riding up a short hill?
@gimmigimmigimmiРік тому
@@JumpingWatermelons 900w is more than 10w/kg, so the answer is easily no.
@thesoultwins725 років тому
Firstly, I am a great fan of Fabian Cancellara and think he was an exceptionally gifted and strong rider. But I have to admit that his performances during 2010 do cause questions to be asked. The featured extract of Cancellara attacking Tom Boonen [who is no slouch and an extremely strong rider himself] on the brutal climb of Muur van Geraardsbergen in the Tour of Flanders is simply staggering! And in the 2010 edition of the Paris-Roubaix [which had been raced a few weeks earlier] Cancellara had casually 'rode away' from a group of top quality riders 50k from the finish line to secure a solo victory. This was no second-string bunch made up of domestiques and also-rans. It included the likes of Sylvain Chavanel, Stuart O'Grady, Filippo Pozzato and again, Tom Boonen - all highly capable and experienced pros. According to Boonen himself, after recovering from the initial shock of Cancellara's audacious attack, the group started to work together and were travelling at 55kph. Even so, Cancellara was still going away from them! [by the end of the race he had put 4 minutes into his competitors!] To distance a chasing group of top guys all working together like that takes a remarkable effort. And the ease at which Cancellara did this does beggar belief.
@laurentwarnon4413 роки тому
Boonen was top and fit that year. He beat his own record on this climb and looks like a child compared to the motorman... So how can the swiss cheater drop so easily a top tom boonen who climbed faster than the other years...
@thesoultwins722 роки тому
@@laurentwarnon441 ........Hi Laurent - yes I was very suspicious of Cancellara in both the P-R and Tour of Flanders as I said. Of course, we will probably never know the 'truth' but to drop an extremely strong rider such as Tom Boonen in that manner - just doesn't seem 'correct'.
@bellavia511 місяців тому
It is cause for suspicion.
@andresbravo7049 місяців тому
Nada para extrañarse. La "Locomotora de Berna" fue 2 veces Campeón Olímpico de Contrarreloj (2008 y 2016) y pudo haber sido 3 veces (sufrió una caída en el Gran Fondo de Londres, 2012 ). El suizo, uno de los mejores clasicómanos y contrarrelojistas de la historia. Eso es todo.
@MrChippinator2 дні тому
Watching this back now, the way he moves his legs reminds me of how guys go along on e-bikes. Today, everyone would have figured it out, back then, e-bikes weren’t as common.
@Sills718 місяців тому
This is DOPE. both mechanical and medical.
@jansnauwaert17852 дні тому
Well, besides that I don't buy it: you can't prove if, so shut up.
@DanielSong397 років тому
Did Cancellara just put 30 seconds on Boonen in under a minute?
@charlesjohnson92495 років тому
Something like that. And it can happen, I remember Froome loosing around 30-35 seconds on a climbing stage at the TdF 2017, on the last 150 meters!
@TheSteinbitt5 років тому
mega smacky Phil Gaimon troopers are here lol
@santiagobenites5 років тому
@@dansprague2 Cancellara used a motor. It's obvious. Sadly he got away with it.
@toozydude25 років тому
Putting 30s on someone in 1min requires the front person to go 1/3 faster than the other. If you go twice as fast as them, then u gain more than 1min gap in 1min.
@TheSteinbitt5 років тому
Frank M Boonen was on the limit going into the climb, Cancellara waited for the steep and put the hammer down. It happens almost any year in the RVV, this year Bettiol did it to GvA and the rest of the favorites. Not really unbelievable, just racing. The fact that he never got out of the saddle is his style, and to avoid slipping on the steep cobbles while putting out 1000+W.
@mpereirawolf5 років тому
Thank you!
@magnitogorski9 років тому
Madre mia Cancellara-Boonen tete a tete. Ataque impresionante en el mejor escenario posible. Momento mítico ya del ciclismo. Bestial. Ojalá vuelva a este nivel para 2015 y veamos una Vlaanderen espectacular. Espero ver a Wellens ahí en la pelea.
@YoutubSUCKZ2 роки тому
te gusta el motociclismo?
@bibialan60719 місяців тому
@@YoutubSUCKZ y a ti chupar no? Suckz
@raganwald8 років тому
Cancellara "motors" ahead? I see what you did there.
@Angel-gn2on8 років тому
Cancellara is monster, Boonen is outclassed so dont talk rubish.
@3vimages4718 років тому
+Jojo Labuguen You can even work out where Sparticus turned on his motor! Are you blind?
@JamieSmith-fz2mz7 років тому
It's completely unnatural to simply accelerate away from your nearest competitor on that pitch and open up that big of a gap without a bit of anguish on your face. He looks so effortless - like he's waiting for an oil change. Sorry, but there is no such thing as Superman.
@gempidge7 років тому
After thinking again, I think he was just switching on the radio. But what song, gives such motivation? Pray, do tell...
@bernardhinault93776 років тому
You can see boonen actually runs into the wall with his front tire, right as the commmentator says Aww, that is what makes the gap so staggering.
@devidia7 років тому
I don't understand how people still aren't able to see the pure fraude shown here
@devidia7 років тому
At the time of the race, bikes weren't checked for mechanical doping. Do you even bike, bro?
@devidia7 років тому
Makes it only stranger that you have no clue of bike check ups at races of that time
@devidia7 років тому
bro
@pato209956 років тому
About 10-20 bikes of the 400 are checked in most races, some races check up to 200 bikes, but never all of them
@pato209956 років тому
And yea they started doing it in 2013, screening randomly around 10-20 bikes in 2013, they started checking more intensively from 2018 on.
@rudymerckx74246 років тому
Well..as a belgian who has followed pro cycling for 50 years now...I had never seen this kind of "acceleration" ..twice in a matter of 7 days...2010..both times Cancellara...1 in RVV...1 in Roubaix....What bothers me the most in RVV are his numerous bike changes...clearly they were planned and the exchanges were done to perfection. I have seen a ton of RVV and Roubaix.....and I can tell you that in these classics in full "finale" bike changes ONLY take place if something breaks on the original bike. Even pro's will tell ya....In Roubaix...well..yes..the group was looking at each other ..true..so if you reference his speed to those 3 or 4 riders it seems like he's flying...but I do not reference it at those 3-4...I just observe the sudden ( I mean like lightning quick) enormous increase in cadence ..even as he"s looking backward and the Boonen group not exactly going slow ( one long queue). Within seconds of what should be a huge effort he looks back and keeps it all looking just a little bit too smooth for me. BTW..companies have been experimenting with electrical "in frame" motors for years..one canadian company even has their setup with SRAM..lol......oops...coincidence or not. Am I against Cancellara ?...far from..I consider him half a flandrien and a beast indeed. But these 2 moments were "super human" or at least to this day that is how I remember them....because they seemed truly effortless. And I have seen hundreds of "demarrages" by equally talented one-day-classic riders in these 2 classics.....in all those I WITNESSED GREAT PHYSICAL EFFORT with a totally different body language.
@pato209956 років тому
In Roubaix he looked like one the camera motors was passing the group. Like he pushed the throttle
@DanielSong394 роки тому
Then Chris Froome did it twice, 2013 Ventoux and 2015 PSM
@DanielSong394 роки тому
Also for long range attacks, see Floyd Landis 2006 Tour and Chris Froome 2018 Giro
@schattelux14543 роки тому
sorr looser
@notreally24062 роки тому
@@DanielSong39 On an up and down course a great climber can open the gap on each climb and hold that gap on the descents
@michaelvstheworld36808 місяців тому
I still remember watching this, screaming "BULLSHIT!"
@trinerd7 місяців тому
That was bullshit. That gap was like 12 seconds after 20 seconds of racing. Boonen never cracked. Yeah, super suspicious.
@chrisbrodroy11836 місяців тому
I rode up the Muur myself this year for the first time and my respect for those guys just exploded…just like i did fighting these cobbles
@jordimaxwell2 роки тому
He was speculated to have illegal support in his pedalling. Its so steep and yet he just sat on his saddle like nothing happened and then he looked down to his bike at the top of the climb.
@StopTheRot9 днів тому
This brings back memories of being dropped by an elderly woman on an e-bike with a couple of baguettes in her basket. Looks very similar.
@gempidge8 років тому
Around 2.37, you can see Cancerella's doing something... right before he takes off. Funny how on the bits of the slope where EVERYONE else has to stand up in the saddle, Cancerella remains comfortably seated.
@gempidge8 років тому
MERE CONJECTURE: That he uses an electric motor. FACT: You find many videos in which he makes strange hand movements right before he attacks FACT: You can find many videos where he is doing an attack on steep climbs, and he is the only one who doesn't rise out of the saddle. FACT: There is no actual proof Cancerella has broken the rules. FACT: Swiss people are awesome, Switzerland is awesome.
@gempidge8 років тому
Tamhas B although it is rather hard to believe that such a tiny battery could do any good for more than about 5 seconds. Probably more likely that Cancerella is just a god on two wheels now that i think about it. If there was battery that good in existence, why hasn't Apple put one in my iPhone?
@tobi-sui61338 років тому
haha you are joking... but believe me i hate nothing more than cheaters in cycling. An if cancellara would cheat I can't believe they would have found it out. And he didn't win all the other classic races so there might be some races who perfectly fit to him. His legs might have more power, so he doesn't have to rise out of the saddle. But I'm not an expert... Are you from belgium?
@szalaydaniel86318 років тому
+Tamhas B A few notes: He is just switching gears before the attack. Rising out of the saddle means a higher heart rate = faster lactate buildup. In this video Boonen is struggling already at the bottom of the hill; he gets out of the saddle a lot, which happens often when somebody cannot keep up. Cancellara looks fresh from the beginning of the hill, holds a high cadence consistently and powers through. Just take a look at the cadence difference from 2:23. My opinion: Spartacus is a beast.
@danielabrams75878 років тому
+Tamhas B No motor here. Look at his cadence! Cancellara is spinning his tits off!
@SongDen6 років тому
Impossible to give such a gap against a strong rider like Boonen
@claudiobini77114 роки тому
Analoga considerazione in una tappa in cui fu staccato Peter Sagan . Il modo con cui Cancellara superò Sagan che peraltro era in in piena forma è e rimane sospetto .
@musiccorner6377Рік тому
tom boonen was dead at that moment
@Michael-gu5lt5 років тому
If anyone believes that, the reason is very simple, they have never pedal in their life. And especially on cobblestone and worst up a wall at almost 20%
@1101grayzer6 років тому
It's very clear what he does at 2:37. The gradient gets steeper, Boonen starts to feel it, Cancellara changes down a gear, his cadence increases and he doesn't need to get out of the saddle.
@TheSteinbitt5 років тому
Sean Gray cadence tend to increase when you shift down...
@MrBerndwiekema4 роки тому
Sean Gray you’re probably right. Cancellara was the strongest rider at that time. Not fair to accuse him of technical fraude.
@championthewonderhorse97333 роки тому
At the vert moment Sean Kelly says that attacking sitting in the saddle is the best way to attack the climb too...
@ChuckD593 роки тому
I've stepped through that part a couple times and I agree (but I do think there are better examples of pros and electric assist). Right through the 2:37 mark, if you go frame by frame, it's clear their cadences had been matched but C drops his right shoulder a bit and his cadence increases, just as would happen if one were to downshift. He's off the hook in my book, and a veritable monster.
@chrisvillanueva41258 років тому
how did he do that? unbelievable
@stephanelavoie2258Місяць тому
Didn’t know about motor in the bike could exist at that moment and as i was watching this i said to my self : how is he accelerating so fast with Boonen fighting with is bike , the rest is history!
@skinny557727 років тому
It should be pretty easy to estimate the power for the attack by comparing his time to one of the Strava segments and that rider's power and weight. It's so steep that the environmental variables are probably negligible. I can try but it might take me a while since I know nothing about that climb.
@mikehall66089 днів тому
Have you figured it out yet?
@fewcruit48 років тому
2:35
@davidfernandez97916 років тому
This is at least suspicious. Boonen is dying on his bike meanwhile Cancellara pedals away easily.
@abone2pick2 роки тому
Yeah because he's a time trial specialist and has spend hundred of hours riding in that position
@ivangomezdiaz26514 роки тому
He starts the engine in the minute 2:18. The pedal changes completely.
@championthewonderhorse97333 роки тому
Or he just changes down a gear to something lower...
@Bayo1063 роки тому
@@championthewonderhorse9733 lol right. these comments are so fucking stupid. Cancellara probably just had better gearing
@user-ye7su5of7c5 років тому
Sings: Things that make you go 'hmmmmmmm'
@gajupla67878 років тому
impossible de tourner les jambes comme ça !!!
@mcycliste21445 років тому
Exactement, j'habite à 10 bornes de Gramont. Et à cette endroit c'est totalement illogique que cancelara se met à faire du 100 t/m alors qu'avant il à une fréquence de 70. De plus il accélère comme une moto Boonen qui fait une très bonne montée est au sprint et de fait déposer. Et ce suisse traite ces détracteurs comme un certain Texan avant lui. Vivement le jour où un mécanicien balancera le morceau.
@remibazin49754 роки тому
je ne sais pas ce qui a du se passer dans la tete de boonen.
@alfpacino26303 роки тому
@@remibazin4975 la sensation d'avoir pris un coup de vieux!
@alfpacino26303 роки тому
avec Froom, il forme la génération, j'attaque le cul sur la selle en pleine montée!
@maxsan49912 роки тому
Meme pour un simple amateur de vélo, ca se voit a l'oeil nu que ce n'est pas credible. Boonen etait au top, il s'arrache sur sa machine pour essayer d'avancer tant bien que mal, et l'autre a coté assis sur sa selle qui lui met 20 mètres en l'espace de 60 metres.
@alessiodoardo83523 роки тому
Sapete dirmi che marca aveva di motore elettrico Cancellara...
@sebastian71123 роки тому
My god what a performance. What a massive gap. Opened up in a matter of seconds.
@bergsteirer8 років тому
Everything clear to see.....motor use. This bike doping really gets ridicolous.
@johanbaertie9 років тому
De muur has to come back to the race!!!! Much more exciting.
@Trekki6112 років тому
i very hope that the uci will the muur take to the race it belongs back. here's a german friend of the muur, theres no ronde without it...
@brianramzoti29539 місяців тому
That is a f*cking shame. 100% motor
@sebastianlecourt1366Місяць тому
"Prepare for LUDICROUS SPEED."
@pahouseholder6 років тому
Wow. You can see why folks think he was motorized. That little flick of the fingers of his right hand as he rode away at 2:37 was saying, "Bye, Tom!"
@henselericРік тому
Right, he downshifted into a lower gear, and rode away from a blown Boonen. Occam's Razor.
@musiccorner6377Рік тому
yes he turned his gear whot you see i think your on the dope
@100cucimataРік тому
Cancellara's bikes were quite particular ...
@fredericfrere72513 роки тому
Cancellara pioche déjà aux pied du mur dans la roue de Boonen et la différence est trop importante quand il attaque
@QiuyuanChenRyan9167 років тому
Was that the year Fabian won on ZIpp 303? Boonen seems still old fashioned on wheels at the time.
@Starrynova4 роки тому
Doped bike
@talep51805 років тому
Look the cancellara's right hand at 2:36.
@abedfo885 років тому
miss Dave Harmon so much
@MrMarollesРік тому
He made that gap in seconds, whilst Boonen was still going pretty quickly, not possible with out a motor.
@reneflippe3286Рік тому
Can you prove ? If not sh1t up !
@musiccorner6377Рік тому
whahhaha whot a idiots in this world , you boonen struggled meter by meter in the and to get ont top
@scallybombchucker6 років тому
Phil Gaimon brought me here!
@aikman216 років тому
me 2 and if you look close on 2:53/4 you see the same handling being done like on 2:38/9 exactly the moment when he has the gap and is trough the steepest part of the Muur ... i know people can do extraordinary things but that far into a race like the tour off flanders and knowing he is easily doing it from the saddle places big question marks ... I always admired him as a person but his recent twitter war and the way he is doing it reminds me about a certain texan kid who also was yelling he wasn't doing something , nevertheless we will never know for sure what happend what we have seen :D
@TheSteinbitt5 років тому
Yep, he tried to sell a book latching on to the coat tails of real cyclist and some idiots bought it...
@user-mt9rt3zm7n4 роки тому
カンチェのアタック凄すぎ😊 ボーネンの名勝負数え歌ww
@TurboDally6 років тому
So in 60 seconds (give or take a few seconds) the guy pulled away around 250 meters, he's moving 4 meters PER SECOND FASTER than the other guy- in other words a good 9mph quicke- that's quite a big difference in speed.
@felicienbourdin8406 років тому
TurboDally think twice about it ... if I have an advance of lets say 50meters at the end of the hill, during the time my opponent runs at low speed completing the hill, I go way faster than him on the flat/descent portion and when he reaches the top I could have 250meters of advance ! so do again your calculation takin this into account
@nicolasdelaforge74206 місяців тому
It depends on the form of the riders. In another commentary, Cancellara was climbing just a tiny bit faster than the record holder on the hill, Naesen, who was not a star rider overall. So, if he were on the road that day, Cancellara would have had but a small margin on him. Perhaps Boonen was not at his best. There are so many considerations - who knows? But Cancellara had such immense power, this could have been the greatest week of his career.
@mcycliste21445 років тому
Cancelara 100 rpm in Gramont 😂
@imraanmajiet10585 років тому
Oliver Naesen has the current Muur strava record at 2 minutes 50 during the binck banck tour when he was off peak. Here Boonen and cancellara hit the Muur at 20 seconds and boonen summits at around 3:25 which is around 3 minutes on boonens side. Not putting it past cancellara in his prime to have done 2:40ish then extended his gap in the downhill without a motor.
@nicolasdelaforge74206 місяців тому
If your figures are right, this is the best analysis so far. Cancellara would have been much stronger than Naesen, and Boonen was actually slower than you would normally allow such a great rider. Great work.
@paulsolon6229Рік тому
Electrical motor Cancellara?
@Angelo_Botta5 років тому
Fabian Cancellectric
@oceanedetotes28 днів тому
After this ride, they added E-bike on Strava.
@RickBeckler3 роки тому
Why doesn’t someone do a theoretical calculation on the amount of power put down by Cancellara? It would show that 30 seconds gap on Boonen is impossible.
@JumpingWatermelons3 роки тому
Yeah. Either Specialized or Team Saxo bank did release some of Fabian's power data from that day. The max power was 1,450 watts, presumably duing that attack.
@abone2pick2 роки тому
Cancellaras time up that hill isn't even the fastest . I think the Kom up that hill is like 3 seconds faster than what cancellara did.
@spabcn12 років тому
@MortalShowdown That could be a good explanation
@allan49229 місяців тому
Unreal.
@gnarkillMTB9 місяців тому
Motor in the frame
@tim3d716Місяць тому
Had Cancellara an E-bike?🔋
@Jan-se1nd8 місяців тому
I bought it then as a massive Cancellara fan. Today? Not so much. I've watched a lot of RvV since and this just looks unnatural.
@rhyslloyd61253 місяці тому
The day of the motor 🛵
@adityagupta101Місяць тому
Did they have motors and batteries small enough to fit in the seat tube back in those days?
@christophermoyer6103Місяць тому
Not off-the-shelf, but if one was willing to spend the bucks for something high-end and custom made, probably yes
@adityagupta101Місяць тому
@@christophermoyer6103 very similar footage of one girl who cheated with motor in seat tube. She literally motored off on steep incline... However I reckon there is at least 10-15 years between the 2 incidents. So curious if the tech was as advanced back in the day
@christophermoyer6103Місяць тому
@@adityagupta101 I agree it looks similar. And it stands to reason that FC, as one of the best cyclists in the world, would have access to cutting edge technology (including illicit methods of performance enhancement) significantly before lesser riders such as the Belgian cyclocrosser none of us had heard of until she got caught red-handed with a motorized bicycle The more I watch that clip of FC pulling away from Boonen, the more convinced I am that it's a case of cheating. Combine that with his numerous and unconventional bike changes and I think it's naive to believe that nothing illicit took place.
@RandomUsername34Місяць тому
Cancelara.was working harder in the beginning of the climb the he was on the steep part while attacking.
@user-rm1xg9yg9p18 днів тому
Is that Dave Harmon commentating with Kelly?
@chrisdeluca657725 днів тому
He turned up gas alright
@kajakmannen16662 роки тому
Is this the race when Cancellara changed his bike 3-4 times? Wonder why!! The attack looks very unnatural given the fact that he must have produced well over 1000w sitting in the sadle.
@Alpenmagier2 роки тому
People just like to hate. Boonen himself was riding that part of the race faster then cancellara in the year before.
@Kanonka2818 днів тому
Motor engin worked well.
@DanielSong398 років тому
No matter how good you are, if you put in a sudden acceleration on a steep upslope on the cobbles, the bike will sway. I have no idea how Cancellara violated basic laws of physics here.
@DolleHengst4 роки тому
Cancellara weighed 90kg. On a steep climb, with a seated rider, most of that weight will rest on the rear axle, giving the rear wheel extra traction. And a higher cadence gives a rider more control over the bike.
@Bayo1063 роки тому
you obviously know nothing about cycling.
@hugoz1187Рік тому
On lui a toujours pas retiré ses titres au motard suisse ?
@Bad_GnasherРік тому
Sadly you'll never see a better example of motor doping.
@Michael-hm8cs25 днів тому
Froome in every single one of his TDF wins
@Bad_Gnasher24 дні тому
@@Michael-hm8cs got a link?
@kraknoix00755 років тому
Boonen looked quite fresh and comfortable until Cancellara just suddenly accelerates with inhuman speed without going out of the saddle. Meanwhile Boonen is sprinting after him with also impressive speed, he clearly has energy left but he can't sprint that fast. At the top Boonen is already 30 seconds behind. Seems totally legit folks
@andrearota29762 роки тому
1450w? Which brand is his bike's engine? 😂
@43gillou5 років тому
Y a pas à dire c'est efficace le moteur !!!!!!
@Lepercurtidoo4 роки тому
Check out Cancellara's right hand at 2:37 ... ;)
@Lepercurtidoo3 роки тому
First time you assume something of someone you don't know ? Guess not, i am cycling 42y straight now ...
@goonballer12 днів тому
Ghost in the machine
@Michael-gu5lt5 років тому
The unfamous hidden motor!
@Tha-King-Arthur3 роки тому
Look at his left hand at 2.37 min.
@nicolasdelaforge742018 днів тому
Cancellara had a smaller gear - that's huge, and if they were equal, Cancellara would have won because of it. But they were not equal, Cancellara was, a this time, better.
@albertohernandez360628 днів тому
Amazing climb and E -bike 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@ChuckD596 років тому
There's far more convincing evidence elsewhere in cycling of mechanical "doping" (Hesjedal). I see the tactic of burning up Boonen in the first part, forcing him to lead for a bit then crushing him on the final part. And I see Cancellara shifting up as he launches his attack, nothing more. He is a beast, no question.
@Chris-dy7hk4 роки тому
2:35 he turns on the motor. There is no way he puts a gap in like that on a rider like Boonen, cramps or no cramps. This is not natural. There is no way to push that kind of wattage, it's physically impossible. Not to mention just watching the video, it's obvious. Cancellara did this too many times, unbelievable he was never caught.
@matthiasrichter31124 роки тому
Indeed, with his right hand. We can see it on the movie.
@serdiezv3 роки тому
@@matthiasrichter3112 That's just shifting, if they never caught him, with the suspicion being there it means he wasn't cheating
@Bayo1063 роки тому
@@serdiezv this
@JonLeonardF103 роки тому
Boonen vs. cancellara These days van Der poel vs. van ert Classic specialists. excellent races
@errbud3 роки тому
We should have Remco Evenepoel in the mix next year as well exciting times
@guyjones366520 днів тому
Cancellara.. bike strip down would be interesting...
@nmal63714 роки тому
C'est bien Spart'accu son surnom ?
@tbcyable3 роки тому
"Spark Plug" accu
@jamisdelsol57615 років тому
it was not for nothing that he had a mechanical groupet the bateri and the engine would not have entered the vertical tube, which more is obliged to mounted sitting in the wall if the wheel sliding
@Fennefar5 років тому
Again 2:38 what happens with the right hand?? Not a gear change but it is interesting in that year how before acceleration in Flanders and Roubaix he touches the same area on the bike.
@jameswillett1185 років тому
Just doesn’t look right 🤔
@santosleandro19557 років тому
Right hand at 2:37...nun said!
@Juan00036 років тому
2:43 Bonnen does the same. What nun?
@ahhhhhhhDestroyed6 років тому
Ever riden a bike? he changed gear.
@championthewonderhorse97333 роки тому
Literally the moment Sean Kelly says the best way to attack the climb is sitting in the saddle and Cancellara does just that...
@dickieblench50017 місяців тому
Post bike change
@tristanomoresi2014Місяць тому
Cancellara with E-Bike
@alexgrytsenko858 років тому
There is no proof that he used mechanical doping. But I can't believe that Bonen couldn't answer Cancellara. They had been riding together and for one moment Cancellara said good-bye. Sitting on the saddle by the way... That was very strange. I like Spartacus and I don't want to believe that his victory was unfair.
@marcobracci790518 днів тому
He was turning the gas Ho yes
@QiuyuanChenRyan9165 років тому
Anyone realized at this moment Fabian is riding a pair of Zipp 303 and Boonen is still on the aluminum? For a zipp owner, I can say those are some of the nicest designed wheels, particularly when it gets a bit bumpy.