Chaos: The Science of the Butterfly Effect

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Chaos theory means deterministic systems can be unpredictable. Thanks to LastPass for sponsoring this video. Click here to start using LastPass: ve42.co/VeLP
Animations by Prof. Robert Ghrist: ve42.co/Ghrist
Want to know more about chaos theory and non-linear dynamical systems? Check out: ve42.co/chaos-math
Butterfly footage courtesy of Phil Torres and The Jungle Diaries: ve42.co/monarch
Solar system, 3-body and printout animations by Jonny Hyman
Some animations made with Universe Sandbox: universesandbox.com/
Special thanks to Prof. Mason Porter at UCLA who I interviewed for this video.
I have long wanted to make a video about chaos, ever since reading James Gleick's fantastic book, Chaos. I hope this video gives an idea of phase space - a picture of dynamical systems in which each point completely represents the state of the system. For a pendulum, phase space is only 2-dimensional and you can get orbits (in the case of an undamped pendulum) or an inward spiral (in the case of a pendulum with friction). For the Lorenz equations we need three dimensions to show the phase space. The attractor you find for these equations is said to be strange and chaotic because there is no loop, only infinite curves that never intersect. This explains why the motion is so unpredictable - two different initial conditions that are very close together can end up arbitrarily far apart.
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@andrejferdinand388
@andrejferdinand388 3 роки тому
Having a bad math teacher at very young age, has the butterfly effect on the rest of your life; for example
@victorguzman4101
@victorguzman4101 3 роки тому
"The printer rounded to 3 decimal places whereas the computer calculated 6" The ghost of significant figures
@premsagar8253
@premsagar8253 3 роки тому
Having a bad math teacher at very young age, has the butterfly effect on the rest of your life; for example
@aadarshraghuwanshi7022
@aadarshraghuwanshi7022 3 роки тому
this hit me hard.
@Ira__L
@Ira__L 3 роки тому
At school I was really good at math until there was a very irritable algebra teacher with anger management issues. Her explanations were super short, if you zone out for several seconds - congrats, you understand nothing. I did ok, but I learnt to lay low. In high school and university I studied foreign literature and languages. When I was 20 - 21, during university practice, I went to my school to work with an English teacher, and I was assigned to this one class of pupils. Once I sat through their algebra lesson with that wonderful teacher. I think she didn't remember me but she felt OK to start shouting at these poor kids and shaking a dirty blackboard sponge right in their faces to make them think faster, I guess. She had also retained another beautiful habit of hers - gesticulating with both hands, but with one hand she would hold a piece of chalk, with another one - her glasses. She would use all her fingers except the middle ones, and she would raise both of her middle fingers and shake her hands to emphasize her point. She would basically give the double middle finger to the whole class😂
@Ckdude100
@Ckdude100 3 роки тому
Honestly that’s just an excuse and I’m sorry. My friends had the same poor math teacher at a young age for a good amount of years. One went on to be brilliant at math while the other was mediocre at best
@jamesdinius7769
@jamesdinius7769 4 роки тому
Sensitive dependency on initial conditions: The exact present exactly predicts the future, but the approximate present doesn't approximately predict the future.
@kirbykir
@kirbykir 4 роки тому
Seems like you believe in Laplace's demon. When you get information to the quantum level, predicting the exact future is going to be nigh impossible. Or maybe quantum stuff can be predicted. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@josephburchanowski4636
@josephburchanowski4636 4 роки тому
@@kirbykir "When you get information to the quantum level, predicting the exact future is going to be nigh impossible. Or maybe quantum stuff can be predicted. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯" There are people who believe in deterministic quantum mechanics and those who don't. As of right now, there is no way to tell which is right; hence they are consider "interpretations of quantum mechanics" where each are near equally valid until evidence comes out otherwise.
@davidlewis6728
@davidlewis6728 4 роки тому
so now the question becomes whether or not you can observe an exact state of a system. the easy answer would be no, but i wonder if the future has any solutions that we are not yet aware of.
@GrrSaidTheWolf
@GrrSaidTheWolf 4 роки тому
@Juan Cortez Muro For the second time, are you proud of yourself fam?
@fyukfy2366
@fyukfy2366 4 роки тому
You took that from vsauce
@milistefanova7405
@milistefanova7405 Рік тому
It's amazing how such a complex topic can be so entertaining and presented so understandable. It sparked my interest in the butterfly effect. I really loved the animations and examples of the points he made.
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant Рік тому
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@krishnachaitanyapullakandam
@krishnachaitanyapullakandam 2 роки тому
The graphics, the explanation, the presentation, everything about this video is top class. I am just speechless.
@klaxoncow
@klaxoncow 3 роки тому
"Sometimes when I consider what tremendous consequences come from little things, I am tempted to think... there are no little things." - Bruce Barton
@pallabidutta968
@pallabidutta968 3 роки тому
The intricacies in the web of life.
@sukanya3411
@sukanya3411 2 роки тому
🤯
@metafisicacibernetica
@metafisicacibernetica 2 роки тому
yeah
@SwarumtheForum
@SwarumtheForum 2 роки тому
That is certainly a tempting thought.
@yusufibrahim1694
@yusufibrahim1694 2 роки тому
i have been trying to put that feeling into words for years. thanks person
@SangoProductions213
@SangoProductions213 4 роки тому
When they talk about time travel, people almost always state that they'd make enormous changes for present day with small actions in the past. But rarely do people think that they can take small actions today to cause great change tomorrow.
@MikinessAnalog
@MikinessAnalog 4 роки тому
How very "forward" of you LOL
@JohnBehrens118
@JohnBehrens118 4 роки тому
That's because they have a point of reference by virtue of knowing how the past played out. They'd hypothetically know that any differences over the course of history would be due to whatever changes they made. They don't know how the future would be changed by whatever actions they take today because as the video so succinctly explains, we can't predict the future very accurately beyond a very limited point.
@Lambda_Ovine
@Lambda_Ovine 4 роки тому
Yeah, but when you cannot predict what will happen, does it even matter to think about that?
@SangoProductions213
@SangoProductions213 4 роки тому
@@Lambda_Ovine Yes. Get out there and make one small step towards a better future. You have the power.
@mackk123
@mackk123 4 роки тому
If you put a bag on your head you can time travel at a rate of 1 second per second
@iiitechnoduckxx3526
@iiitechnoduckxx3526 Рік тому
The relationship between this chaos theory, and the definition of insanity (doing the same thing over and expecting different results) is VERY intriguing.
@avishekchakraborty8289
@avishekchakraborty8289 10 місяців тому
Hmm, that's indeed a very intriguing correlation there
@AlexanderNash
@AlexanderNash 9 місяців тому
I've always felt that you can never do EXACTLY the same thing over and over. No matter how you try there will always be some difference.
@zackariasthepirate
@zackariasthepirate 2 роки тому
You will never be the same person again. The more steps you take the more different you are. Even if you go back to the start you are different, and the place is different. I love how his explanations make me visualize concepts of my own existence.
@mohibullah6215
@mohibullah6215 3 роки тому
He explained such a complex topic with so much simplicity that i am just speechless.
@hugoclarke3284
@hugoclarke3284 3 роки тому
It IS simple. People can't help but complicate things.
@MouseGoat
@MouseGoat 3 роки тому
@@Arrowaceofspades but hes right. In fact everyting is simpil when looked at from the right angle. Just look at flatwaters overcomplicating the world because they cant grasp the fundmetals of gravity. Stupid is when you over complicated things you dont undstand because you applying the wrong models to the data.
@hugoclarke3284
@hugoclarke3284 3 роки тому
@@Arrowaceofspades Reading into my comment like that is only making a case for my point. Humans need to translate things into a language they can understand. My comment would sound pretentious to anyone, myself included, but it is entirely objective.
@TTaM581
@TTaM581 2 роки тому
@@Arrowaceofspades Have you considered that English may not be his first language? Using an ad hominem argument means you've already lost.
@hamsterdam1942
@hamsterdam1942 2 роки тому
@@Arrowaceofspades did you have a bad day?
@faith9196
@faith9196 3 роки тому
And this is why I will always smile and compliment strangers. Idk what kind words or gestures could majorly effect someone’s life.
@paulferris8180
@paulferris8180 3 роки тому
Absolutely. I was told that life is like a game of "Snakes and Ladders" and to respect, but also remember to help those you meet along it. Because you never know where you or they will be should you meet them again before the game ends.
@prumchhangsreng979
@prumchhangsreng979 3 роки тому
Ok but that's not how butterfly effect work. Those action might also even cause someone to suicide. Like i said, this is "Chao". But that is not predictable, what predictavle is that compliment stranger make someone day better. It is not butterfly effect but it is a good thing to do and would make this world a better place.
@YAHOOISNOTG
@YAHOOISNOTG 3 роки тому
@@paulferris8180 This is why the movie Groundhog Day is one of my favorites
@a7G-82r
@a7G-82r 3 роки тому
According to the butterfly effect you could also fart on them because it could have a major positive effect on their lives. But that's probably not as predictable as giving them a compliment.
@randomguy-hv1go
@randomguy-hv1go 3 роки тому
@@a7G-82r YESSIR
@danatowne5498
@danatowne5498 2 роки тому
I'm pretty sure the "butterfly effect" is from Ray Bradbury's short story 'A Sound of Thunder', where a man changes the future by stepping on a butterfly on a hunting trip 60 million years in the past. The story was first published in 1952 so it's more than 50 years old. Great video!
@TucsonDude
@TucsonDude Рік тому
That's a fun story about it.
@viktorija.jankauskaite
@viktorija.jankauskaite Рік тому
That was a good story! Bradbury was an incredible author
@JBG-AjaxzeMedia
@JBG-AjaxzeMedia Рік тому
it was probably called the butterfly effect long before that.
@danatowne5498
@danatowne5498 Рік тому
@@JBG-AjaxzeMedia , nope. I made the same observation on a literary expert's channel and he answered and said it was true. Someone else used the exact phrase a couple of years later in a different book - but not before.
@JBG-AjaxzeMedia
@JBG-AjaxzeMedia Рік тому
@@danatowne5498 according to google, lorenz called it the butterfly effect
@Minnie123.__.
@Minnie123.__. 2 роки тому
Thank you so much! I've been so confused about the chaos theory in general and my textbooks weren't helping at all. You explained it all so well. Sincerely thank you.
@russwane
@russwane 4 роки тому
If only someone had explained science this way when I was younger.
@CalvinHikes
@CalvinHikes 4 роки тому
I'm just happy someone explaining it this way now. UKposts has really been a blessing that way. I'm finally enjoying science and physics and math and things I hated when I was a kid.
@AKABILASETOFICIAL
@AKABILASETOFICIAL 4 роки тому
Great I'm ever like physics
@chuckychuck8318
@chuckychuck8318 4 роки тому
Science is easy to understand. Math is your problem
@russwane
@russwane 4 роки тому
@@chuckychuck8318 geez. Tell me about it.
@vikingslayer34
@vikingslayer34 4 роки тому
They did. You were just too high to stay awake.
@holp
@holp 4 роки тому
"That's on the scale of atoms, pretty insignificant on the scale of people," said the pile of atoms.
@deepstariaenigmatica2601
@deepstariaenigmatica2601 4 роки тому
...said the pile of atoms in command of one of the most mysterious conglomeration of atoms called the brain. We may be insignificant in the grand scheme of things but definitely in a unique kind of way.
@GNParty
@GNParty 4 роки тому
Several trillion trillion atoms, yes.
@holp
@holp 4 роки тому
@Hans-Christian Larsen EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING.
@77Avadon77
@77Avadon77 4 роки тому
So if the moon was conscious would it to be impossible to predict? Of course not
@77Avadon77
@77Avadon77 4 роки тому
@Michael Enquist Consciousness doesn't change the fact that you behave according to Newtonian physics (just like the moon). Every operation in your brain is macroscopic and predictable. You can't beat physics. You're not a subatomic particle. Sorry.
@richard8308
@richard8308 2 роки тому
Amazing video! I did my masters project on a parametric pendulum, and I wish I had something like this around then, shows the concepts so clearly
@trayee4854
@trayee4854 2 роки тому
Thank you Derek, after watching a series of motivational videos with no effects, this one actually made me shut down the screen and open my physics textbook!
@SylvainBerube
@SylvainBerube 2 роки тому
That's pure gold. 20 years ago I had the chance to study chaotic dynamical system during my undergraduate study in mathematics. There were a few good books on the subject, I remember an interesting video too, but nothing of that quality. To the younger generation: savor and take advantage of your luck!
@OhZjuchi
@OhZjuchi 2 роки тому
Exactly what I was thinking during this video, we're so fortunate to have this education at our fingertips, whereas you'd have to either have to travel, pay alot of money or first apply and get accepted to receive such information
@MrDrew-qh2es
@MrDrew-qh2es 2 роки тому
@@OhZjuchi haha yup
@aliwaheed906
@aliwaheed906 2 роки тому
Any good book recommendations on choatic systems?
@samk7400
@samk7400 2 роки тому
@@aliwaheed906 A professor I had recently recommended An introduction to chaotic dynamical systems by Robert Devaney. Haven’t had time to look at it, but as it’s his field of study, I take his word that it’s good.
@NaneuxPeeBrane
@NaneuxPeeBrane Рік тому
@@aliwaheed906 The Quark and the Jaguar deals with complex systems... Chaos by James Gleick nice intro - check out the Stanford lectures on Chaos and Reductionism too
@josephtran1500
@josephtran1500 4 роки тому
"The printer rounded to 3 decimal places whereas the computer calculated 6" The ghost of significant figures
@KaranYadav-gr5xj
@KaranYadav-gr5xj 4 роки тому
Programmer's nightmare :D
@KaneNexus
@KaneNexus 4 роки тому
That's how 1+1=3 for large values of 1.
@McFly0097
@McFly0097 4 роки тому
at least he didn't have to program in an era of timezones
@DiamondTear
@DiamondTear 4 роки тому
"Hidden figures"?
@salixbaby
@salixbaby 4 роки тому
ghosts of departed figures!
@karllenc
@karllenc 2 роки тому
Cool! This video reminded me of my professor of physics in the university who was obsessed with fractals and chaotic systems. Thanks for this explanation.
@therealestninja
@therealestninja 2 роки тому
I've seen several of your videos and even recommended some to others. This is by far my favorite of your videos.
@adityasharma9423
@adityasharma9423 4 роки тому
:Why aren't you successful. Me : I held a sneeze in the maths class long ago, and now I am doomed.
@danyalag3366
@danyalag3366 4 роки тому
A Mathematician once stated the chaos of nature using the example of a pool table: " During the familiar game of pool, if a man is to calculate the collisions between the balls, the prediction of the first collision is simple enough that any college student can do it. The prediction of the fifth collision requires such things as the gravitational attraction of the two people standing nearest to the pool, while the prediction of the ninth collision is impossible, as it requires exact knowledge of all the positions and momenta of all the particles ( electrons, protons, and neutrons ) in the Observable Universe."
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 4 роки тому
True. 👍
@casualsadi3144
@casualsadi3144 4 роки тому
Chaos is a ladder :V :V :V
@ConnorHammond
@ConnorHammond 4 роки тому
Please tell me this is merely a metaphor and that people near the pool table aren't effecting the gravitational attraction on the balls enough to have any significant impact on the 5th collision. Surely not..
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 4 роки тому
@@ConnorHammond Butterfly effect. Everything affects everything.
@heywrandom8924
@heywrandom8924 4 роки тому
@@ConnorHammond I have personally heard this claim as well by a phycisist researcher. He said you would have to take into account the gravitational force of the people around
@siddhumyl
@siddhumyl 2 роки тому
Your videos are very good in explaining the complex topics in simple terms. Thanks a lot.
@JaseewaJasee
@JaseewaJasee День тому
your practical approach to this subject is just what i needed!
@wesleysull
@wesleysull 4 роки тому
I would like a 60 min documentary on the content just presented in the last 2 mins of this video.
@rahulsonaghela178
@rahulsonaghela178 4 роки тому
You mean the last pass advert?
@user-yn9mp4bt3q
@user-yn9mp4bt3q 4 роки тому
Ok but the music ukposts.info/have/v-deo/qI-qg6ucfYOWmJc.html
@GuitarSamurai17
@GuitarSamurai17 4 роки тому
Why?
@martinkuffer5643
@martinkuffer5643 4 роки тому
If you have a little background on calculus, you can read Strogatz's book "Non Linear Dynamics and Chaos". It's absolutely amazing
@NoHandleToSpeakOf
@NoHandleToSpeakOf 4 роки тому
there is "secret life of chaos" www.imdb.com/title/tt1674741/
@Crutoiful
@Crutoiful 4 роки тому
A person in Florida whose house has been destroyed by a tornado: ,,Those freakin’ butterflies flying in Madagascar again”
@hadiqawaseem6726
@hadiqawaseem6726 4 роки тому
Lol
@805NAVE
@805NAVE 3 роки тому
😂 “Again..”
@KnakuanaRka
@KnakuanaRka 3 роки тому
But a person in China might thank those butterflies for extinguishing a tornado that would hit them. In chaos theory, things are short-term insensitive to initial conditions, but not long term.
@emilianocatano2700
@emilianocatano2700 3 роки тому
as a Floridian I can confirm
@xyz-ng5wx
@xyz-ng5wx 3 роки тому
This comment is so underrated 😂
@there_can_only_be_one__unicorn
@there_can_only_be_one__unicorn 2 роки тому
Thanks for the time and effort you invest in your productions they are very much appreciated
@xoy1148
@xoy1148 5 місяців тому
This video is so good I keep Coming back to re-watch it time to time
@CunningBard
@CunningBard 2 роки тому
* Time Traveler Sneezes * Butterfly effect: * GERMANY BECOMES AN ALLY IN WW2 *
@abcdefg1343
@abcdefg1343 2 роки тому
I would say rejecting a kid form an art school was a perfect example of the butterfly effect already
@jakeweberzwier8655
@jakeweberzwier8655 2 роки тому
Then WW2 wouldn't happen
@mylesprospero8105
@mylesprospero8105 2 роки тому
If WW2 didn't happen, there could be a worse global war than that. Also, our technology developed much faster because every country wants to improve militarily and/or economically
@VonKey.
@VonKey. 2 роки тому
_"Japan destroyed by a super-massive tornado."_
@CrazyGaming-ig6qq
@CrazyGaming-ig6qq 2 роки тому
And a man named Abradolf Lincler wins nobel prize for his life work on his theories of parallel dimensions.
@QuesoCookies
@QuesoCookies 2 роки тому
Bottom line: we can't predict the future because we'd need to know the exact conditions of the beginning, but we can't know the exact conditions for the beginning because the margin for error in estimating the beginning conditions is infinitely small. However, every point in time was determined from the beginning based on that initial state. So the future is determined, but there's no way for us to know what it is.
@robosergTV
@robosergTV 2 роки тому
exactly
@jake8993
@jake8993 2 роки тому
Not necessarily, if we could see the exact conditions at any given moment in time (e.g. right now) hypothetically we could predict the future from that moment onwards. At least I think so?
@QuesoCookies
@QuesoCookies 2 роки тому
@@jake8993 Lorenz' observation of chaos came about because he was getting different values for the same points in time when he changed the starting point of the calculations. So starting at any point other than the exact same starting point will produce different results. They could happen to produce similar results, but it'd still be impossible to know exactly how similar they might be beforehand.
@ChillGuy511
@ChillGuy511 2 роки тому
@@jake8993 But exact conditions to infinite decimals can never be known...
@ChillGuy511
@ChillGuy511 2 роки тому
@@QuesoCookies That's actually not true. See that part of the video again... The values were actually slightly different due to the rounding off of the printer. He mentions this. They are deterministic systems, ie., they produce the exact same results for the exact initial conditions. But not even approximate results for approximate conditions
@DO1Metalformings
@DO1Metalformings 5 місяців тому
the way you explain things is incredible.
@EpicNova
@EpicNova 2 роки тому
My brain hurts watching these videos even with the simplistic style you explain them in, and I want more!
@zintel4471
@zintel4471 4 роки тому
This is one of those science videos that aren't just interesting, but also beautiful.
@JohnSmith-gs4zv
@JohnSmith-gs4zv 4 роки тому
Just like your comment! ;)
@ZachariahMBaird
@ZachariahMBaird 4 роки тому
Just like you.
@buboychua2197
@buboychua2197 4 роки тому
True bro
@devonjosiah7308
@devonjosiah7308 4 роки тому
And also confusing
@Hambxne
@Hambxne 4 роки тому
I think you would really enjoy @3Blue1Brown
@elaichiuchiha4161
@elaichiuchiha4161 3 роки тому
Why am I interested in this and not in my studies?!
@ramaarafat4608
@ramaarafat4608 3 роки тому
Maybe you should change your studies then lol. But maybe its your destity...
@Richard-bq7br
@Richard-bq7br 3 роки тому
This were written to make you interested. All the boring stuff were taken out.
@shantanu176
@shantanu176 3 роки тому
@@Richard-bq7br yes, the devil lies in the details
@Devilupz
@Devilupz 3 роки тому
@@shantanu176 yeah, it's real, I'm the devil.
@oliverm8058
@oliverm8058 3 роки тому
Bad teachers 100% of the time
@gmgadho
@gmgadho Рік тому
I was lucky enough to find chaos by james Gliek in my school library and i think this video might have been inspired bby it....... It is a fantastic read and you even get to know about the interesting side of math rather than the blunt equations we think math is
@Dr_LordBastion
@Dr_LordBastion 10 місяців тому
I'd love to see a video on the Hummingbird Effect! It's a very interesting one that I ended up reading about in the book "How We Got to Now" and I'd love to see a more visual take on it from you!
@flameendcyborgguy883
@flameendcyborgguy883 3 роки тому
My favorite thugh on the matter is: Chaos is not anti-order. It has its own rules, secred to common eye, but quantificated, mesurable and predictable. we may not know the sequence, but we can know the rules it must obey.
@arkdirfe
@arkdirfe 2 роки тому
If we assume that the universe is deterministic then chaos really is just rules we haven't understood yet (and may never understand). The problem is that we, from within the system, can not figure out whether the system itself is deterministic or not because any "full" prediction of the future would involve predicting your prediction and whoops infinite recursion.
@gps9715
@gps9715 2 роки тому
"... and predictable." I think you missed something somewhere.
@gps9715
@gps9715 2 роки тому
@@arkdirfe You mean like fractals?
@flameendcyborgguy883
@flameendcyborgguy883 2 роки тому
@@gps9715 I meant rules are predictable not system itself. Statistics and rules it obeys can be seen from the function itself.
@jamieg2427
@jamieg2427 2 роки тому
the rules belong to the math topic called differential equations.
@_Swink
@_Swink 4 роки тому
Read "Chaos" by James Gleick if this stuff interests you. Probably my favourite book of all time, totally changed my outlook on everything, no joke.
@tahsintariq8757
@tahsintariq8757 4 роки тому
Fellow 3b1b fan?
@_Swink
@_Swink 4 роки тому
@@tahsintariq8757 No but ill check it out. Big fan of Robert Sapolski's lectures on human behavioural biology, he assigned this book to his students. He is the best lecturer of all time, makes me question my computer engineering degree
@_Swink
@_Swink 4 роки тому
@@tahsintariq8757 OH 3blue1brown yeah I love his videos too
@JH-ji6cj
@JH-ji6cj 4 роки тому
*The Information* by James Gleik is an amazing read as well!
@tahsintariq8757
@tahsintariq8757 4 роки тому
@@_Swink in a video on differential equations 3b1b talks about phase space...and I heard about the book "chaos" in another one of this videos though I forgot which video it was.
@MrGarysjwallace
@MrGarysjwallace 2 роки тому
Really enjoyed this. You should show the equations. I think by looking at the equations and the variables causing the feedback, people would have a better understanding. - just a thought
@timothydoyle3380
@timothydoyle3380 2 роки тому
Was explained so well. Excellent job!
@metanumia
@metanumia 4 роки тому
This was one of the best videos you've made! Meteorologists and atmospheric science researchers don't receive much respect or recognition from the public, who often mock them whenever a forecast is even slightly inaccurate. Most people have not yet comprehended _just_ _how_ _difficult_ a forecaster's job is. Nor do most people realize just how much progress these scientists have collectively accomplished in the past 30 years or so. The job of an atmospheric scientist is _literally_ *to* *predict* *the* *future* state of the extremely complex and multivariate set of dynamical systems that constitute the Earth's atmosphere. This was one of the best and most concise educational videos about chaos theory I've ever seen and should help viewers better understand the difficult challenges that forecasters in any physical domain are tasked with on a daily basis. Once again, thank you Veritasium, for another enlightening, entertaining, and educational video! :)
@Pranav_Bhamidipati
@Pranav_Bhamidipati 3 роки тому
Aren't all forecasts mostly done by supercomputers?
@calvinwill1663
@calvinwill1663 3 роки тому
@@Pranav_Bhamidipati I don't know but even if so, people must create the system first and fix the system when it is imperfect.
@zwz.zdenek
@zwz.zdenek 3 роки тому
The problem is with their lack of honesty. If the job proves impossible, they shouldn't keep pretending to forecast. Weather forecast regularly fails miserably in only one day. It's so bad that simply knowing the date and looking out of the window gives better results.
@santiagodiez7022
@santiagodiez7022 3 роки тому
zwz • zdenek that was so rude and accurate at the same time
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 Рік тому
@@Pranav_Bhamidipati computers run models, but the models do not always agree. the weather experts can add a level of "AI" as well as explain the situation (including the uncertainties). most weather folks on the news don't go into the detail, but a few will explain all the steps they use to make the prediction. Ronchetti for example.
@ConradPino
@ConradPino 4 роки тому
I appreciate integrity shown when structuring embedded advertising so much that I watched to the very end. Thank you.
@jonsaboe2019
@jonsaboe2019 2 роки тому
Beautiful. You final wrap-up with the Lorenz Attractor caused me to think of the ACTUAL "Great Attractor" -- that structure to which our local galactic group is rushing towards.
@calmcalm6203
@calmcalm6203 2 роки тому
U mean love ?
@ethangroat8333
@ethangroat8333 2 роки тому
I'd like to mention that even if one vector/data point/object in the system were to reach the exact same state by some weird chance (like discrete numbers rounding the results at each step), the other vectors in the system would be different and so the paths each would still not be periodic. Very interesting summary of chaos theory, thank you! I like the way Jeff Goldblum explained it best still lol
@pizzaovenpizza
@pizzaovenpizza 4 роки тому
I understand and mostly don't understand this at the same time. How Schrödinger.
@Malik-Ibi
@Malik-Ibi 4 роки тому
That's just for atoms.
@EisensteinPrime
@EisensteinPrime 4 роки тому
Actually that's 2 different versions of you. Not a single entity. That's what this channel taught me anyway 😂
@snowleopard9463
@snowleopard9463 3 роки тому
Fact: alternate version of you right now doesn't even know you knew anything about alternating realities
@andrewaronson3364
@andrewaronson3364 3 роки тому
wrong video head ass
@charlespackwood2055
@charlespackwood2055 3 роки тому
his cat died
@saswatdas2698
@saswatdas2698 3 роки тому
The reason I think people are fascinated by butterfly effect is that it gives a sense that our actions have greater cause that we are special something like that..
@sumitraturi7791
@sumitraturi7791 3 роки тому
People are amazed,thats it
@MouseGoat
@MouseGoat 3 роки тому
If you want to argue that you can take actions that truly have not affect, that simply goes against everything we know about the universe so far. Even the flap of a butterfly wing has energy in it, energy that comes from somewhere and goes somewhere. Naturally one butterfly wing flap could never take credit for a hole tornado, yet to just because the tornado would be indifferent to you if I removed one butterfly, dosen mean its the same outcome. Put it like this, i can take one atom from you, and you would not mind, you would surely be fine even if tok a thousand (well unless they were somehow specific ones in one of you cell causing it to become a cancer cell) but there come a point where the number of atoms taken from you becomes a problem. Its not that a atom taken from you doesn't affect you, it's that it affects you to litel to make a noticeable difference by your standards, but there's still a difference.
@TTaM581
@TTaM581 2 роки тому
@@MouseGoat A butterfly's wing flap, while its energy does dissipate into the surrounding atmosphere, could be the "straw that broke the camel's back." It could push conditions *just enough* for that tornado to either happen or not happen. A single atom, taken from your body, could cause you irreparable damage, if it's the right atom. Here's a poem perfectly describing the effect of the butterfly effect: For want of a nail the shoe was lost. For want of a shoe the horse was lost. For want of a horse the rider was lost. For want of a rider the battle was lost. For want of a battle the kingdom was lost. And all for the want of a horseshoe nail. Overall, the butterfly effect is about the chain reactions that happen from very small changes / influences to create very big changes in the future.
@KM-oj4jk
@KM-oj4jk 2 роки тому
@@TTaM581 great illustration!
@arandombard1197
@arandombard1197 2 роки тому
Also, it means that there is a certain amount of free will. With total determinism, our actions were decided before we were born and will be decided until we die. Effectively, we don't exist. We're just passengers to our body's existence.
@periodictable118
@periodictable118 Рік тому
In the university of Alberta's science building there is a double pendulum in the main hallway in the basement where you can go and spin it yourself. Every time I spin that thing it never ceases to amaze me, making me think deeply about the nature of the universe
@amanmakwana4247
@amanmakwana4247 Місяць тому
Thanks a lot for this extraordinary explanation on chaotic systems.
@andyh9382
@andyh9382 4 роки тому
“The three body problem” the most interesting sci-fi book you’ll ever read. Don’t read spoilers or anything about the book. Just start listening to it or reading it. Your mind will never be the same.
@Shrooblord
@Shrooblord 4 роки тому
That sounds like a recommendation and a half. I'll check it out. Thanks!
@yafi2475
@yafi2475 4 роки тому
Thanks for the recommendation. I will check it out.
@Pecuniarly
@Pecuniarly 4 роки тому
I'm at the start of part 3 of Cixin Liu's trilogy now. I can say parts 1 and 2 are definitely worth reading.
@ElectricBikeReview
@ElectricBikeReview 4 роки тому
I’m going to read it, thanks for the recommendation!
@Andytlp
@Andytlp 4 роки тому
x doubt. People should be mindful to what they put into their heads. Things that dont exist. Sci fi often serves as inspiration for new inventions so theyre not all bad.
@punman5392
@punman5392 3 роки тому
For some reason I find theoretical physics like this rather unsettling. The existential implications are interesting but simultaneously disturbing
@savagebuck
@savagebuck 3 роки тому
It is not a paradox. Exciting and unsettling are not mutually exclusive. A HORROR film is both EXCITING and UNSETTLING.
@user-or3tl6yq7o
@user-or3tl6yq7o 3 роки тому
Matt that though shows how simple humans and there emotions are, I’m sure you can’t understand that because you are just a 3D life form with neurological signals that go to a main muscle blob
@son5051
@son5051 3 роки тому
@@user-or3tl6yq7o says someone who has never studied humans and their emotions on a actual neurological scale, i presume
@lugold8766
@lugold8766 3 роки тому
@@son5051 he probably has not but you dont have to study that hard to realize that Humans are 3D life forms with a very simple mindset that turns basically everything into good and bad
@XenoghostTV
@XenoghostTV 3 роки тому
​@@user-or3tl6yq7o How can you even conceive degrading humanity like that? Our bodies alone are much more than just "a 3D life form" or whatever meaningless nihilist oversimplification you're trying to push as opposed to thousands of years spent trying to understand how we work. And we are more than just our physical presences, love is indeed a thing, and it's huge. You don't know a thing. Me neither. We all know nothing.
@joshuagharis9017
@joshuagharis9017 2 роки тому
You are so great. I am thankful for the work you do.
@60pluscrazy
@60pluscrazy 2 роки тому
This explanation explains so much about the mystery of our mysterious world. Deterministic chaos🙏
@apurvanarayan11
@apurvanarayan11 4 роки тому
“For want of a nail, the shoe was lost; For want of a shoe, the horse was lost; For want of a horse, the rider was lost; For want of a rider, the battle was lost, For want of a battle, the kingdom was lost!” - Chaos by James Gleick
@alexfrasca673
@alexfrasca673 4 роки тому
A nail, a nail! My kingdom for a nail!
@manasisnehal1572
@manasisnehal1572 4 роки тому
Wow.. This seem very interesting stuff!! I'm going to read this book today.
@apurvanarayan11
@apurvanarayan11 4 роки тому
Manasi Snehal Great! You will love it.
@Ch-vx3qn
@Ch-vx3qn 4 роки тому
Apurva Narayan I have re-read it 3 times over the past 30 years
@TheTennAce
@TheTennAce 4 роки тому
What a fantastic book
@R4ks0
@R4ks0 4 роки тому
This guy is making me look at the universe in a whole different way...
@xx8782
@xx8782 3 роки тому
watching this stoned? lol
@Blackjac10
@Blackjac10 3 роки тому
Vsauce
@navsenjoy
@navsenjoy 2 роки тому
Quite interesting. Never gave a serious thought to 'butterfly effect' untill this.... Thanks. If possible talk about concept of 'dark matter' 🙂
@areyoukind5645
@areyoukind5645 5 місяців тому
A very helpful video on the buttercream effect
@matheusfernandes9871
@matheusfernandes9871 4 роки тому
and this, of course, is the choice of steins;gate
@Torabshaikh
@Torabshaikh 4 роки тому
I was searching for Steins;Gate reference in the comments. Thanks.
@joeqiao1691
@joeqiao1691 4 роки тому
El psy conguroo
@rizzgod-wj6ty
@rizzgod-wj6ty 4 роки тому
Okarin my watched stopped working......
@kiyoponnn
@kiyoponnn 4 роки тому
@@joeqiao1691 Celeb 17
@Torabshaikh
@Torabshaikh 4 роки тому
@@rizzgod-wj6ty that was sad!
@skwisgaarskwigelf331
@skwisgaarskwigelf331 4 роки тому
When you watch UKposts to rest a bit from studying differential calculus... Then you see the PHASE SPACE.
@Studboo
@Studboo 4 роки тому
I feel you
@hollowsoul666
@hollowsoul666 4 роки тому
Stops copies me
@Ariana-dn4mm
@Ariana-dn4mm 4 роки тому
> quadruple scroll attractor
@Vladix1970
@Vladix1970 4 роки тому
you ams a goods guitarists
@francisruizyamba6149
@francisruizyamba6149 4 роки тому
Skwisgaar Skwigelf at least its more entertaining this time
@billk6585
@billk6585 2 роки тому
Your early dismissal of quantum affects on people took me by surprise, it took me a few ticks to figure out why. I read an article a few years ago saying that One of the inputs into the decision behind a neuron firing or not is actually based on a quantum state change. To me this makes living beings huge amplifiers of quantum state change and the apparent randomness that introduces. Makes sense to me because it seems like evolution would embrace the ability for us to differ by a little randomness in our thoughts the same way we benefit from randomness in our dna. You just reminded me that this is not a commonly held concept, so I thought I’d ask your opinion on the idea. Your videos are amazing, I just watched the multiverse one and you explained that so clearly that it’s jaw dropping. Thank you for your videos!
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 Рік тому
indeed, the field of quantum biology is generating some real results.
@Lyre-Archon
@Lyre-Archon Рік тому
questions like this keep me up all night
@Raptorifik
@Raptorifik 4 роки тому
"A Sound of Thunder" is a science fiction story by Ray Bradbury, first published in 1952 was the first representation of the butterfly effect where the death of a butterfly in the past causes irreparable changes to the present.
@thefootballplanet5784
@thefootballplanet5784 4 роки тому
good point! Eckels (is that his name im correct? steps off the path and steps on a butterfly!
@zemoxian
@zemoxian 4 роки тому
I think it’s in the same vein but isn’t really the same. If I remember correctly, the butterfly was stepped on by a guy hunting a dinosaur. They got back and language was slightly off and a different political party was in power. I think the butterfly effect would be a lot more intense. Just going back that far, just taking a single breath would change the outcome of natural history. The line that leads to the evolution of the genus Homo might not occur. Or even primates. I think our mammal ancestors were shrew like tiny little things back then. The species you come back to might not be recognizable. I speculate that the butterfly effect would be particularly hard on time travelers. I think it’s funny in time travel stories where people go back and change things, yet, just about every sperm hit the exact same egg on a global scale. Each one of those chaotic situations has like a 1 in 200,000,000 chance assuming the parents happened to get frisky at the exact same time in both timelines. I would find that odd if it happened once, yet usually that happens billions of times all over the world. Maybe once, like on the CW Arrowverse, one person might be replaced. And don’t get me started on how the entire crew of the Enterprise could turn up for the same jobs on the same star ship in an alternate history where violence and despotism won over peaceful democracy. And, of course, minor style changes to facial grooming and wardrobe.
@loremipsum7ac
@loremipsum7ac 4 роки тому
The same insect but a couple of decades before Lorenzs's paper. I wonder if just a coincidence or if Lorenzs was familiar with that book?
@skrewgravity
@skrewgravity 4 роки тому
oh my. Flashback to Freshman year in highschool almost 10 years ago
@dhairya6357
@dhairya6357 4 роки тому
Yeah man ! I heard about The Sound Of Thunder in one of Aperture's Video . Please watch the videos they are mindblowing
@drumstixkml
@drumstixkml 4 роки тому
Math professor who actually studies dynamical systems here - EXCELLENT video! This is a great, non-technical introduction to chaotic systems and what makes them hard to study. The intuitive concepts behind dynamical systems can be easily obscured by intimidating technical details and computations, but you've done a fantastic job of making this topic accessible to a general audience. I'm teaching a special topics class on this in the spring and am now DEFINITELY going to show this video as part of our introduction to chaos theory. I've followed this channel for years now (and saw your video on staying relevant on UKposts), and I'm glad to see that you are maintaining your high standards for the quality of your videos. Thank you for your commitment to high standards in education.
@cpinindia
@cpinindia 2 роки тому
An interesting take on the laws of physics as we know. Amazed at the inquisitive minds that study into so much detail! Do watch, especially if you are interested in Scientific knowledge that goes behind prediction of phenomenon like weather forecasts
@nissrineouabbou273
@nissrineouabbou273 Рік тому
Thank you for this video extremly well explained ! ❤
@accellex2845
@accellex2845 3 роки тому
Me: *Releases hundreds of captive butterflies into the wild* Stranger 1: "That's so nice. It's a beautiful sight to release gentle creatures like that." Stranger 2: "He's obviously feeding the local birds. He'd release them in captivity if he cared about their safety." Stranger 3: "He must just be doing something like blowing bubbles to feel good." Me: *Thinking* "Go my pets! Use your butterfly effect to cause tornadoes across the world! Fly my pets! I will destroy it all with butterflies!"
@KnakuanaRka
@KnakuanaRka 3 роки тому
Alexis Carrillo Part of chaos theory is that the future is short-term sensitive to initial conditions, but not long-term. Basically, the flap of a butterfly in Texas may cause a tornado in India, but it can also extinguish one in Chile, so the overall number of tornados stays the same.
@diceblue6817
@diceblue6817 3 роки тому
based and butterfly pilled
@meh_veel
@meh_veel 3 роки тому
Sounds like a villain's superpowers haha
@rudy5623
@rudy5623 3 роки тому
After reading this, Phineas: Ferb, I think I know what we are going to do today!
@walidfakhfakh3660
@walidfakhfakh3660 3 роки тому
@@KnakuanaRka saha lik fil canada ou el weh weh mta3 el christmas
@coolnegative
@coolnegative 4 роки тому
"A Sound of Thunder" is one of my favorite examples of this.
@atimholt
@atimholt 4 роки тому
It’s a fun way to fictionalize the idea, but it’s important to understand that literally any interaction with the past whatsoever, will prevent mankind as we know it from ever evolving, if you go as far back as they do in that story.
@JohnSmith-gu6hf
@JohnSmith-gu6hf 2 роки тому
probably one of the best youtube channels ever. Nice job
@followtheleadercluj
@followtheleadercluj 2 роки тому
I love your series on chaos!
@omeryldz8264
@omeryldz8264 4 роки тому
Nowadays, I think we can call it "Bat Effect"
@yepeskeyfan_girl1277
@yepeskeyfan_girl1277 3 роки тому
wow xD
@anilv9729
@anilv9729 3 роки тому
Dude yeahh
@shizunnanase543
@shizunnanase543 3 роки тому
Can relate
@dimetriyo4183
@dimetriyo4183 3 роки тому
by just a flap of its wings, the whole world change
@dupondra8865
@dupondra8865 3 роки тому
Lol
@SnowTerebi
@SnowTerebi 4 роки тому
So basically the meaning of my life is a rounding error. Annnnnd my most upvoted comment is about the meaning of my life is a rounding error.
@aidanmccready2277
@aidanmccready2277 4 роки тому
SnowTV Life is the ability to change the future
@SnowTerebi
@SnowTerebi 4 роки тому
Aidan McCready Yea, but without the rounding error, won't all the decisions we made be predictable? I remember reading about brain activity is at quantum level though, so maybe that will introduce some uncertainty in the decision making progress?
@SnowTerebi
@SnowTerebi 4 роки тому
Didn't they cracked 42 a while ago?
@bernardusmuller1109
@bernardusmuller1109 4 роки тому
@@SnowTerebi Yeah it turned out the meaning of life wasn't in fact 42, I'm still shocked!
@magnusjonsson7303
@magnusjonsson7303 4 роки тому
What is meaning without chaos?
@rybec
@rybec 2 роки тому
Ok, so chaos theory is fascinating, and this video does a great job of explaining it. If you want to go one better though, and simulate how quantum randomness can affect macroscopic effects over time, read on! Back when I was a CS undergrad, some students in the CIT department suggested I talk to one of their professors about simulation, because I had a habit of writing particle simulations for fun. After around two years of this, I finally did it. At the time, I was planning to write a swam simulation in Haskell. He gave me some interesting advice. He suggested I not worry about state. Normally, in simulations like this, one would use a buffering technique, so that the state currently being generated is based purely on the previous state. If you don't do this, early changes can affect later changes, blurring state between frames. I took this advice to mean that I shouldn't concern myself with this, so I wrote a simulation that advances each particle based on wherever the others happen to be _at this moment_, instead of buffering state. The result was that behavior of the simulation was far more organic, lacking artificial looking patterns that tended to show up in the state buffered simulations I had previously written. This isn't the _really_ interesting part though. Another thing I did to achieve this indeterminate state was to based advancement on time passed, rather than progressing a set amount per "frame". Frames really only made sense when trying to preserve state integrity, and since I wasn't doing that, I fell back to an older method I used to use when writing video games. So, here is how the simulation worked: I started with a list of particles. During each loop, I would advance the first particle in the list, based on the amount of time passed since I had last advanced that particle (and based on the positions of the other particles in the list). Then I would move that particle to the end of the list. (Using functional programming techniques in Haskell make this extremely easy.) This completely abandoned state integrity, which did manage to achieve very interesting results. The _most_ interesting result, however, was what happened with, on a whim, I ran two identical instances of the simulation side-by-side. Starting them at exactly the same time randomly placed the particles in the same places. To be clear, this is the _only_ place in the simulation where randomness was used, and because the RNG was seeded based on system time, starting them simultaneously seeded them identically. So, they started with particles in exactly the same positions, and the particles then started moving in exactly the same patterns. Except, imagine my surprise when I noticed the simulations begin to deviate. They started in identical states. There was no additional randomness going into the simulations. So they should have matched perfectly. That final assessment, however, was actually wrong. There _was_ still some _tiny_ amount of randomness going in. This randomness was processor scheduling. The difference between the two simulations was the _time_ passing between iterations. Desktop operating systems assign processor cycles to programs using some algorithm. How cycles are assigned depends on a lot of factors, including how many processes are waiting for CPU time, the priority level of those processors, how much input and output is being generated, and so on. This means that even running the same program twice, at the same time, won't give them identical schedules. Anyhow, in the context of the simulation, this means that while each particle started in exactly the same state as its parallel in the other instance, it _didn't_ always take exactly the same amount of time between iterations, and this allowed tiny differences due to floating point error to work their way in. But, modern processors are extremely fast, so the actual differences in time were infinitesimal, barely big enough to make any difference in the floating point time values being generated, and further, the floating point error created by these slight difference were also infinitesimal. So how, after only a few seconds, could deviation be seen? The answer is chaos theory. One might be tempted to suggest that the tiny differences would add up to big ones, but the truth is, the tiny difference _should be expected_ to just average out. If we are basing progression on time, the differences _do_ average out. The cumulative time that has been applied to any particle will always be within a few milliseconds of the total time passed since starting the program. And floating point error doesn't tend more toward one direction than another, so over many iterations that will also average out. So what was actually happening was that tiny differences (perhaps on a scale closer to quantum than macroscopic) produced from effectively random influences were having the impact of chaos. Maybe an easier way to think of this is considering each iteration as a "starting condition" for all future iterations. So, the first iteration has some infinitesimal difference between the two simulations. That difference, while initially imperceptible, results in growing deviation between the simulations. And this happens _on every iteration_. Now, this might seem like some merely interesting theoretical stuff, but it's far more than that. What degree of impact does quantum randomness have on the macroscopic world? It's easy to write it off as having literally no impact, except when we are deliberately measuring quantum effects and acting based on them. Chaos theory suggests otherwise though, and my simulation demonstrates exactly how even infinitesimal differences being added into the system on a constant basis can have a significant impact in even a fairly short period of time. So the truth is, not only would the future be unpredictable even if it was 100% deterministic, due to chaos, our universe _isn't_ 100% deterministic, because the various sources of quantum randomness are constantly injecting random new information into the universe, and this means that even if we could know the initial conditions with infinite accuracy and precision, we _still_ couldn't predict the future, because tiny state changes are constantly filtering in, and those are injecting new tiny differences that chaos will eventually amplify into enormous differences.
@Heart-CenteredChanneling
@Heart-CenteredChanneling Рік тому
interesting that just that tiny lag in CPU processor time had an observable effect. Cool story dude!
@c4os79
@c4os79 2 роки тому
such a beautiful video, very inspiring!
@williamayabei
@williamayabei 4 роки тому
Butterfly effect: A Chinese dude sips his bat soup 8000km away in India a dude gets clobbered by cops for not being home by 7pm
@abhiramcherukupalli
@abhiramcherukupalli 4 роки тому
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@purvapawar8977
@purvapawar8977 4 роки тому
Pretty much what's happening in India rn.
@lesalabs
@lesalabs 4 роки тому
Hm. But does the Chinese dude eat bats because he like it, or because he's poor?
@tnmurti6998
@tnmurti6998 4 роки тому
@@purvapawar8977 wtf r u creature
@solsol9515
@solsol9515 3 роки тому
The Bat Effect
@facefuckinbook
@facefuckinbook 4 роки тому
Nonlinear dynamics and the concept of chaos literally changed my life and was the start of my academic journey
@Hallowed_Ground
@Hallowed_Ground 4 роки тому
How so?
@danielfoley9364
@danielfoley9364 4 роки тому
How?
@mackk123
@mackk123 4 роки тому
Every Particle Seated, Tied In, Entangled. Never Dark, Infinite Deep, Nebulas Tumble. Knowledge Is Lessons Learned. Here I Must Say Everything Leaps, Forever.
@cameronbernardo
@cameronbernardo 4 роки тому
What do you study
@facefuckinbook
@facefuckinbook 4 роки тому
@@Hallowed_Ground By studying nonlinear dynamics in physical and chemical systems you realize that simple rules can create very complex patterns and behaviors. Consequently, you can have a pattern in nature (like a human being) and it doesn't need a designer to meticulously design everything about that pattern. For me it is a pretty compelling evidence against a creator. If you are interested in knowing more you can watch " The secret life of chaos" documentary or read "Nonlinear dynamics and chaos" by Steven Strogatz (it requires a bit of knowledge in differential equations though)
@rekhapandey5781
@rekhapandey5781 26 днів тому
Thank you sir,I tried to understand I think it comes to my heart and intellect. Thank you
@haneulkim4902
@haneulkim4902 2 роки тому
Thanks for a great video! One question, to be considered a chaotic system it needs to have an attractor?
@sevenaries
@sevenaries 3 роки тому
TLDR: We can't predict the future accurately enough because we don't know the present accurately enough.
@debblez
@debblez 3 роки тому
You didnt understand the video, clearly
@agrand743
@agrand743 3 роки тому
The actual main takeaway is that the ensemble of predictions follow a predictable pattern.
@KrolKaz
@KrolKaz 3 роки тому
There is no present, its either the future or past. Ive been to Harvard, I think I'd know🤓
@averagejoe9040
@averagejoe9040 3 роки тому
@Abhinav turbulent flow only looks chaotic because we dont have the capacity to know all the factors. If we could know the exact location and velocity of every atom in the system and a bunch of other factors we probably arent even aware of, we could predict where each atom would end up and how it would get there.
@ardaehi
@ardaehi 3 роки тому
But what if we knew the present as clear as the past? Could we guess the future?
@prabhavavasthi92
@prabhavavasthi92 3 роки тому
Those animations are absolutely stunning !!!
@rohitdutta7625
@rohitdutta7625 2 роки тому
This video has just blowed my mind.
@rajatdash9198
@rajatdash9198 Рік тому
The animations are always awesome
@rupaprasad1920
@rupaprasad1920 4 роки тому
so UKposts algorithm let's see how you perform this time
@samuelthompson3861
@samuelthompson3861 4 роки тому
it made my recommended
@harjapoo5793
@harjapoo5793 4 роки тому
it made my recommended too
@imveryangryitsnotbutter
@imveryangryitsnotbutter 4 роки тому
It's impossible to predict, because we only ever know the approximate state of UKposts at any given time.
@max11n98
@max11n98 4 роки тому
It made my recommended!
@merlockmerlin1065
@merlockmerlin1065 4 роки тому
Made mines
@braceleerohith
@braceleerohith 2 роки тому
A system trying to predict the future requires every tiny details of present which includes details of system itself. It creates a self referential paradox.
@shubham25.36
@shubham25.36 2 роки тому
True
@givingittoyouraw4101
@givingittoyouraw4101 2 роки тому
Sounds like Laplace's demon was more about an imaginary god-like intellect analyzing as an external observer.
@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith
@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith 2 роки тому
Stored knowledge does require matter and energy to exist and the knowledge required to comprehend the infinite expanse would require its own infinite expanse... yeah!
@Rudxain
@Rudxain 2 роки тому
This is simlar to the observer paradox. Using a computer to simulate an environment far from the computer would require simulating the computer itself, because just running the simulation makes tiny changes to that external environment, because total isolation of a quantum system is impossible in this universe
@moonmoonFoXhandle
@moonmoonFoXhandle 2 роки тому
You have just described why the scenario of DEVs wouldn't work. Need to re-watch to see if they addressed this paradox there.
@Egbert1313
@Egbert1313 2 роки тому
Another very well done video. I am surprised Dr. Muller did not mention Isaac Asimov's Foundation Series (which I am sure he has read), which is based on someone (Hari Seldon) figuring out the mathematics of predicting the future (called psychohistory), and how things can go wrong. I highly recommend the series, if you have not read it.
@pointman1921
@pointman1921 2 роки тому
Awesome video. I keep going back to our ability to process information. In a simple environment, say a pool ball striking another pool ball, we have the ability to isolate many points of information in that "relatively small" experiment. We can essentially tell the direct future for a few seconds. We don't really call this chaos. But when we work with a larger set of data and more points of information, we suddenly label it as chaos as we are unable to predict the outcome accurately. It's not that we are unable to predict, it's that we don't have the tools/understanding to quickly identify, map out, and "do the math". The math now resides within magnitudes of complexity. If given enough time and a massive amount of data points, (plus some wicked processing) we should be able to predict the outcome just the same. It just requires more on our part. More than we currently have.
@jamesrosar3823
@jamesrosar3823 2 роки тому
And then what of the earthquake? What was predictable before vs. what was will be predictable after, and the need to know the exact when of that quake to plot the sequence of events? The precise when of that event has huge influences upon all the lives touched by it. Why is any other moment so different?
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 Рік тому
@@jamesrosar3823 I imagine an earthquake goes by the math of 'self organized criticality.'
@thomassowinski6765
@thomassowinski6765 4 роки тому
For anyone interested, "Chaos" by James Gleick is a fantastic introduction (and look into the origins of) of chaos theory. Not too technical, and very engaging.
@jewjewabrams4113
@jewjewabrams4113 4 роки тому
No one reads anymore
@casualsadi3144
@casualsadi3144 4 роки тому
@@jewjewabrams4113 you are wrong ...
@jewjewabrams4113
@jewjewabrams4113 4 роки тому
@@casualsadi3144 why are you gay?
@VashtiPerry
@VashtiPerry 4 роки тому
Thanks
@isassasinbro
@isassasinbro 3 роки тому
I’m so glad I’m in college... YAY MATH!!! This has opened my eyes further. REMEMBER there is no such thing as hard math and easy... only math you have yet to learn and math you know!
@SpruceOaks
@SpruceOaks 2 роки тому
It amazes me that videos like this get 4 million views and 6,000 comments. I mean, this is great stuff and really fascinating to total geeks like me, I'm just surprised there are that many more of us out there who have discovered this content.
@pratishdewangan132
@pratishdewangan132 2 роки тому
Everything in universe is understandable, we need only a good teacher and perspective
@andres.beavers5636
@andres.beavers5636 3 роки тому
Anything goes wrong Me: It must be someone else's fault because The Butterfly Effect Gets arrested I blame the butterfly effect. Judge: Sounds legit.
@sanjanasrinivasan13
@sanjanasrinivasan13 4 роки тому
I had built a model of double pendulum with the help of my dad for my 12th grade project I explained the butterfly effect, chaos theory relating it to the evolution of universe. Physics is really awesome !! I love the subject and I'm going to take up bsc in physics next year!
@ardeleanion4435
@ardeleanion4435 4 роки тому
Sure you did. We all believe you.
@mac11380
@mac11380 4 роки тому
I did a project proving the light turns off in a fridge when you shut the door, the line to my booth was huge......lol
@GhostkillerPlaysMC
@GhostkillerPlaysMC 4 роки тому
@@mac11380 Did you just press the button with the door open?
@mac11380
@mac11380 4 роки тому
@@GhostkillerPlaysMC No, I climbed inside....got a little dizzy after a while.....lol
@Pranav_Bhamidipati
@Pranav_Bhamidipati 3 роки тому
@@mac11380 Knock it off! It ain't funny to belittle someone.
@royfablooo2810
@royfablooo2810 2 роки тому
Just finishing Life is Strange Game and I've become really interested on Chaos Theory and Butterfly Effect.
@danknfrshtv
@danknfrshtv Рік тому
"...each point uniquely identifies the complete state of the system." 3:50 Dude, thank you. I'd seen the models online and skimmed a few articles and Wikipedia of course, but the concept has never sunk in so clearly as it has via this explanation.
@cubicinfinity2
@cubicinfinity2 4 роки тому
"I mean sure, there's Heisenberg's uncertainty principle from quantum mechanics, but that's on the scale of atoms. -Pretty insignificant on the scale of people." Or is it?
@spacetime_wanderer
@spacetime_wanderer 4 роки тому
Jim Greene I thought the same! And *Vsauce music*
@cubicinfinity2
@cubicinfinity2 4 роки тому
@@spacetime_wanderer lol
@tear728
@tear728 4 роки тому
Are you Spiderman?
@cubicinfinity2
@cubicinfinity2 4 роки тому
@@tear728 u4c(isl8vq-b
@devTalks3641
@devTalks3641 4 роки тому
Maybe the c spin of a electron on your brain is affecting your choices
@micaelaroyo4837
@micaelaroyo4837 3 роки тому
I think the butterfly effect also captured so many minds because we as humans are constantly asking "Do the choices I make matter?" and "In the grander scheme of things, am I important?" and the butterfly effect gives an answer which is in most cases, yes to both questions
@geetakathait7045
@geetakathait7045 2 роки тому
Even though I am very young to understand the terms he uses but am very fascinated by how he explains. 😮
@lucaslopez2091
@lucaslopez2091 2 роки тому
cool, I'm looking forward to the fractals video!
@BunnyOfThunder
@BunnyOfThunder 4 роки тому
This is the best short summary of chaos I've ever seen.
@purvapawar8977
@purvapawar8977 4 роки тому
Every decision you have made in your entire life has led you to reading this comment.
@RB3Vids
@RB3Vids 4 роки тому
Purva Pawar yea, cause free will is an illusion
@mimi22629
@mimi22629 4 роки тому
🧠
@MrBenzcdi
@MrBenzcdi 4 роки тому
And the next...
@kentmurrmann8637
@kentmurrmann8637 3 роки тому
No don’t do that to me
@TheMegaEzio
@TheMegaEzio 3 роки тому
Then this comment is a "Fixed point attractor" of our lives o.O
@mbogomahad3125
@mbogomahad3125 Рік тому
Amazing explanation..great video.
@balazsadorjani1263
@balazsadorjani1263 2 роки тому
That metaphore of the bridge arching through the dense fog is phenomenal, and it made me think about past, present and future. We always think that the future is blurry, somewhat predictable, but you can never be certain; however, the past is fixed: the ink is dry. Or is it? How better are we at telling the stories of the past, than forecasting the future? Stories are biased, memories are distorted, archeological findings are fragmented, the narrative of history is written by the winners. Information is lost. Everything on the grand scheme of things seems to be unpredictable, yet determined. We're just passengers in a tiny self-driving car, hurtling through the blurry smokes of the unknown, and through just a small window seeing our immediate surroundings of spacetime. Wow.
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