Charles Barkley makes case FDU a bigger upset than UMBC

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Charles Barkley makes his case for why FDU's win over Purdue is the most impressive top 16-seed win in the NCAA tournament, over UMBC vs Virginia.
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@nova1121fanz
@nova1121fanz Рік тому
FDU didn’t even win their conference tourney. They got in because the team that beat them in the final wasn’t allowed to play in the tourney because they just became a D1 school
@alyssasaunders1058
@alyssasaunders1058 Рік тому
Who beat FDU in the conference tourney??
@jacobkreiner7587
@jacobkreiner7587 Рік тому
@@alyssasaunders1058 Merrimack
@Washanuga
@Washanuga Рік тому
Yeah, FDU is rly like a 17 seed lol who got into the tourney on a technicality. This upset has a great storyline
@jacobkreiner7587
@jacobkreiner7587 Рік тому
@@Washanuga plus the play in game!
@criessmiles3620
@criessmiles3620 Рік тому
I mean look at the Purdue team ! They stay in their bubble all conference season long with this false sense of achievement then ….. Every year Cant miss Someone has to review their corrupt ranking Btw : I’m a boilermaker Chensey hill 08 From west Africa 🦅
@STEEZY_TREV16
@STEEZY_TREV16 Рік тому
At least UVA didn't have their best player. Purdue was just flat out beaten with no excuse
@MrDuneedon
@MrDuneedon Рік тому
Edey took ONE shot attempt in the final 12 minutes of the game...I mean...WHAT? Yeah. They 100% deserved to lose.
@STEEZY_TREV16
@STEEZY_TREV16 Рік тому
@@MrDuneedon And bro's supposed to be the big, scary 7'4 monster😂😂
@AustinMichael
@AustinMichael Рік тому
@@STEEZY_TREV16 Dude just uses his size to overpower little kids. He's might get to the NBA and play a couple mins a game and average like 3-4 points.
@luigivincenz3843
@luigivincenz3843 Рік тому
@@MrDuneedon "Edey took ONE shot attempt in the final 12 minutes of the game" so he was like James harden against the Heat in the playoffs then?
@calebos268
@calebos268 Рік тому
@@MrDuneedon better than Simmons lol
@michaelhession2105
@michaelhession2105 Рік тому
For those that don't know this. Purdue has been eliminated by a 13 seed, a 15 seed, and now a 16 seed 3 YEARS IN A ROW! The biggest chokers in the NCAA
@teemack8282
@teemack8282 Рік тому
W O W !!!
@Oscar_Robertson
@Oscar_Robertson Рік тому
Because they don't bring in top talent Zach edey came out of nowhere and he was the only Superstar on their team so don't you should understand yourself you kept up with basketball
@Slickmick62
@Slickmick62 Рік тому
Real talk!! Chokers!!
@ryanf7441
@ryanf7441 Рік тому
That’s B1G basketball for you
@WizardofWestmarch
@WizardofWestmarch Рік тому
Feels like whatever seed the committee thinks they should give Purdue they should make it at least two worse
@calebthompson498
@calebthompson498 Рік тому
Chuck spitting facts as always
@arjunlidder3361
@arjunlidder3361 Рік тому
Hunter was not the best player in college and Virginia still should’ve beat umbc
@brucecampbell4528
@brucecampbell4528 Рік тому
@@arjunlidder3361 That's extremely arguable, in the National Championship season Hunter, Guy and Jerome scored like 63 points. Yes Hunter was like the best player at UVa.
@AJay11180
@AJay11180 Рік тому
- white people
@andrewpaschall8992
@andrewpaschall8992 Рік тому
​@@brucecampbell4528 imo I think Kyle Guy is better but still Hunter was very good and a key part of the offense
@jamedlock83
@jamedlock83 Рік тому
who cares. . It's still a 16 over a 1 regardless. You can't put an asterisk!
@KentuckyKid84
@KentuckyKid84 Рік тому
Also: FDU LOST THEIR CONFERENCE TOURNEY FINAL They're only there because Merrimack is still in their four-year wait period going from D-II to D-I. That is a big part of what makes this so improbable.
@lakerskid2013
@lakerskid2013 Рік тому
On top of that they played a First Four game already against Texas Southern which actually in this scenario turned out to be a momentum push.
@justinbabler2663
@justinbabler2663 Рік тому
Wow, just wow
@MegaChallanger
@MegaChallanger Рік тому
BUT, Purdue coming into this game, already had a reputation for losing to double digit seeded teams. The lost to a #15 LAST year. So I don't think this was bigger than UMBCs upset.
@KentuckyKid84
@KentuckyKid84 11 місяців тому
@@MegaChallanger Except Virginia also had a reputation for historical flameouts, especially the Chaminade game.
@chumark54
@chumark54 Рік тому
I still remember Virginia's comeback story; the first school ever to be knocked out by a 16th seed, then the next year won the championship.
@bozoman7954
@bozoman7954 Рік тому
Really hope this is us. We were knocked out on that run so it would be pretty cool.
@jackg1135
@jackg1135 Рік тому
Man, you talking about that as if it was 30 years ago 😂 “I still remember”
@timliscum2861
@timliscum2861 Рік тому
Because the were the ONLY team to lose the a 16 seed lol
@lexsea
@lexsea Рік тому
i mean purdue has been knocked out by double digit seeds for three straight years so if that was gonna happen for them i think it would have happened a year ago lol
@faizali2200
@faizali2200 Рік тому
@@bozoman7954 it won’t Purdue always chokes they won’t win for a long time
@Washanuga
@Washanuga Рік тому
FDU: - Ranked Above 300 in Kenpom the whole year - Didn't win their conference tournament - Didn't win their conference regular season title either - is in the NEC which ranks 32/32 for D1 conferences in the country in kenpom - Went 4-22 Last year - A first year coach that transitioned from D2 -Average height of players is 6'1" - Ranked 359 in Defense in Kenpom Only got into the tourney on a technicality, because Merrimack was ineligible to play. Incredible upset.
@bbbready685
@bbbready685 Рік тому
Fun fact that I don’t think anyone knows: Last year when they went 4-22 they were the 6th worst team in D1 via kenpom and were the FIRST team to participate and get eliminated in a conference tournment game last year(they lost on February 28th so they didn’t even experience the month of march that year!!!)
@jonathanyoung9369
@jonathanyoung9369 Рік тому
​@@bbbready685Actually I DID hear about it from your earlier comment.
@handles7086
@handles7086 Рік тому
Not a terrible take, but UVA was the #1 OVERALL seed that year, and got blown out by 20 by a 16 seed.
@YoLoBrOtHeR
@YoLoBrOtHeR Рік тому
Yeah, but height matters. If you think beating a taller team overall is easier then idk. I know for a fact umbc was always a sleeper and just got to the 16 seed to win it. FDU is from the NEC conference who only really pulls high d1 talent after injuries or no desire for pro ball. Also, the dude who scored 19 was a d2 baller. Not that its saying much but Low mid d1 is really different cause I have competed against multiple d1 mid/low level players and they don’t compare to national televised teams.
@handles7086
@handles7086 Рік тому
@@YoLoBrOtHeR beating a taller team isn’t easier at all, but beating the #1 overall seed let alone blowing them out is much more difficult in my opinion. Virginia was also taller than UMBC, but obviously didn’t have a Zach Edey
@handles7086
@handles7086 Рік тому
@@Mav0011 in the end, you are still #1 Virginia. Deandre Hunter, no Deandre Hunter, you should NEVER lose to a 16 seed and the #1 overall, let alone get embarrassed by 20.
@nateb9103
@nateb9103 Рік тому
Nah Virginia was missing their best player, Purdue was fully loaded and lost! Stop it!
@handles7086
@handles7086 Рік тому
@@nateb9103 look at my reply above
@cactustrails5268
@cactustrails5268 Рік тому
Absolutely agree! FDU didnt even win it’s conference, highest spread in an upset win, won a play-in game, Purdue had its full roster, and the shortest team in the tournament! They have to make a documentary on this game!
@relaxsleepdreamrepeat_
@relaxsleepdreamrepeat_ Рік тому
All Chuck had to say was Purdue lost to a 16 seed...that didn't win their conference championship.....just let that sink in.....FDU only got in because the champion Merrimack wasn't eligible.
@8644mec
@8644mec Рік тому
To add to Barkley's point, UMBC was also underseeded. They were not a normal "16 seed" in 2018. They probably should have been a 14 or so. But FDU was a legit 16 seed, based on talent and conference. Absolutely a much bigger upset this time.
@summeraethers
@summeraethers Рік тому
Not thought I'd still be in my twenties when discussions about which 16 seed winning game was a bigger upset would happen
@criessmiles3620
@criessmiles3620 Рік тому
I mean look at the Purdue team ! They stay in their bubble all conference season long with this false sense of achievement then ….. Every year Cant miss Someone has to review their corrupt ranking Btw : I’m a boilermaker Chensey hill 08 From west Africa 🦅
@jonathanwatson1908
@jonathanwatson1908 Рік тому
Honestly Charles has a point, but the fact UMBC was the 1st to do it, I have to give them the nod. The fact they blew out UVA who was the overall number one seed was improbable. Now if FDU makes it to the Sweet 16, then FDU will be remembered more than UMBC
@vincesmith2499
@vincesmith2499 Рік тому
​@TheSportsGuru Stanford was missing star players in that 1998 game.
@tonywong8134
@tonywong8134 Рік тому
I doubt Purdue will win the title next year like Virginia did.
@jdb316
@jdb316 Рік тому
If Eady returns and Purdue’s guards improve following this debacle, Purdue will have a shot at it. But of course those are big ifs. Eady may not return and those guards may simply not be that good.
@derekilopan
@derekilopan Рік тому
Chuck is always 100% honest. It's a needed thing in today's society.
@robrig55
@robrig55 Рік тому
That's a good context regarding Virginia vs UMBC. Kinda shows that it's fairgame regardless of rankings
@Avidav
@Avidav Рік тому
Can you imagine ever going to Purdue now 😂
@marshallyoo6726
@marshallyoo6726 Рік тому
Objectively, a play #16 seed is worse than a straight #16 seed
@jamedlock83
@jamedlock83 Рік тому
wrong. a 16 is still a 16
@marshallyoo6726
@marshallyoo6726 Рік тому
@@jamedlock83 The 16th seed play in games pit the 4 worst teams that qualified against each other. Thats how the bracket works.
@spencergwin9454
@spencergwin9454 Рік тому
By point spread. By complete seeding (as FDU was the 68th ranked team, last place). It's a legitimate case and not just recency bias.
@criessmiles3620
@criessmiles3620 Рік тому
I mean look at the Purdue team ! They stay in their bubble all conference season long with this false sense of achievement then ….. Every year Cant miss Someone has to review their corrupt ranking Btw : I’m a boilermaker Chensey hill 08 From west Africa 🦅
@benflis1618
@benflis1618 Рік тому
Crazy thing is the year UVA won it all I’m pretty sure they were losing to the 16 seed by 14 points 😭
@thedink5
@thedink5 Рік тому
This is why it's called March is madness
@ratedluxplug9799
@ratedluxplug9799 Рік тому
UMBC could've been the 1st 16th seed to make the sweet 16, they only lost to 9th seed Kansas State by 4 points
@loganschroeder6929
@loganschroeder6929 Рік тому
Yep, they were underseeded. The parity that we now have in D1 is ridiculous and also crazily fun.
@jqentertainment6966
@jqentertainment6966 Рік тому
Both games were huge upsets. UMBC won by 20 points! It's one thing to win and another to blowout a 1 seed.
@chriskurtz8744
@chriskurtz8744 Рік тому
FDU didn't even win their conference tournament. They only got in because the team that won wasn't eligible due to a transition period rule the NCAA has regarding teams going from Division II to Division I. And they were a play in game and had to play just two nights before to even get to Purdue. So Purdue should of been fresher. Crazy upset. I didn't expect Purdue to get passed 2nd round though, but they even let my expectations down.
@bigdofba
@bigdofba Рік тому
I had Purdue losing to Florida Atlantic in the second round exactly because of the way they played tonight. Wayyyy too tight and bad guard play. FDU should have never been in that game but when they were given life you could literally see their confidence go up and the pressure start building for Purdue.
@evanandersen64
@evanandersen64 Рік тому
He has a point. Also UMBC I don't think played a play in game.
@jamedlock83
@jamedlock83 Рік тому
Charles just likes to be different. . He's wrong. . . A 16 is still a 16 no matter which way you cook at it.
@brucecampbell4528
@brucecampbell4528 Рік тому
Of course it's a bigger upset, DeAndre was out.
@FuckYou8495
@FuckYou8495 Рік тому
Indeed, as was stated by Sir Charles.
@RymeofDawn
@RymeofDawn Рік тому
UMBC was the bigger upset. Virginia was the number 1 overall best team and heavily favored to win it all. They averaged 53 points allowed per game and no team scored 70+ on them all season. UMBC scored 53 on them in the second half alone and beat them by 20. Purdue was an incredibly weak 1 seed that was beat by Indiana twice and almost maryland twice. I don't think the argument of not having their best player holds because they still would have lost that night
@afrikaDR
@afrikaDR Рік тому
A whole regular season of basketball and conference tourney with deandre hunter suggests they wouldn’t have lost that night with him…
@loganschroeder6929
@loganschroeder6929 Рік тому
FDU were even heavier underdogs considering the point spread and were ranked much worse overall in D1 than UMBC was in 2018.
@CS07112
@CS07112 Рік тому
Bring Chuck back to Inside the NBA ASAP
@SantosPhillipCarlo
@SantosPhillipCarlo Рік тому
He and the others will be back after the tournament. But I agree - if I weren't worried about overworking them, I'd want them to do both!
@jamesspann4541
@jamesspann4541 Рік тому
FDU wasn’t even supposed to be there. The optics of this one was even more shocking. Greatest upset in history, either this or 2007 App State over Michigan. I can’t decide.
@loganschroeder6929
@loganschroeder6929 Рік тому
The thing is, the stakes were so low for Michigan that day. Insane upset, but it came at a pretty meaningless time. Purdue expected to get to the Final Four and lost in the opening round to a collection of former D2 players who came in second place in the worst athletic conference in D1 sports.
@mitchellkaplan651
@mitchellkaplan651 Рік тому
Way to go FDU!!!!❤️🏀
@criessmiles3620
@criessmiles3620 Рік тому
I mean look at the Purdue team ! They stay in their bubble all conference season long with this false sense of achievement then ….. Every year Cant miss Someone has to review their corrupt ranking Btw : I’m a boilermaker Chensey hill 08 From west Africa 🦅
@MM-ud1xf
@MM-ud1xf Рік тому
Clark Kellogg sure likes to hear himself speak. Chuck and Kenny couldn’t get a word in.
@faizali2200
@faizali2200 Рік тому
I see what chuck saying and he may be right but any 1 seed even without there best player should beat a 16 seed but FDU is a bigger upset cus they didn’t even win their conference tourney
@justrelax1539
@justrelax1539 2 місяці тому
We not discrediting UMBC defeating Virginia! They STILL beat the No 1 OVERALL seed
@seanwienke8018
@seanwienke8018 Рік тому
Not only all that, but FDU did not even win their conference tournament. They got in because the conference champion was transitioning from division two to division one and a rule states they have to wait four years before making the tournament so FDU got in
@tylerpuszczewicz2535
@tylerpuszczewicz2535 Рік тому
It actually takes 4 years to transition.
@seanwienke8018
@seanwienke8018 Рік тому
@@tylerpuszczewicz2535 your right I missed typed
@j.sheraton6573
@j.sheraton6573 Рік тому
Go New Jersey! Lived in Newark and Jersey City, and the smaller colleges like St. Peter's and Seton Hall and FDU are a credit to New Jersey. Beat those larger schools with the supposedly better teams!
@bigdbohnen
@bigdbohnen Рік тому
100% correct. But calling a spade a spade this is a fireable offence. Painter was outreached period.
@mle6501
@mle6501 Рік тому
Barkley and Smith are my favorites!!!
@gregtiller3569
@gregtiller3569 Рік тому
UMBC was +20 spread. FD was +24 spread. FD bigger upset.
@goldenorange1947
@goldenorange1947 Рік тому
yeah but umbc won by 20
@kevinthejuice
@kevinthejuice Рік тому
@@goldenorange1947 they was making bank shots from the locker room.
@ThugNastyMex
@ThugNastyMex Рік тому
Whether Virginia had injured players or not that has nothing to do with a 16 beating a #1 UMBC is still a small college compared to Virginia
@raygordonteacheschess5501
@raygordonteacheschess5501 Рік тому
Princeton-Georgetown 1989 was still the biggest upset even if they didn't win.
@AdamKlownzinger
@AdamKlownzinger Рік тому
Its OBJECTIVELY a bigger upset, and LOGICALLY its a bigger upset too. Because Purdue was healthy Virginia wasnt. I still dont think that was why Virginia lost. But still
@zachlong2464
@zachlong2464 Рік тому
Plus Purdue was a bigger favorite in Vegas than UVA was and UMBC was way better than FDU by all metrics
@jsm530
@jsm530 Рік тому
Indeed. I made money on these dudes. Glad to see purdue get kicked out.
@seanmleddy
@seanmleddy Рік тому
I love Coach Painter, he's a great recruiter and developer of talent, but his game plans and in-game adjustments are always bad. He is stuck on man to man mentality. He plays a zone with that size, FDU loses by 25. FDU used their speed to spread us out and dissect our defense. They shot below 20% from 3 point, until the last 3 minutes of the game.
@jordan12118
@jordan12118 Рік тому
Chuck is right
@GoatedAtNFS
@GoatedAtNFS Рік тому
and AP put them at #1 numerous times. so yes definitely a bigger upset. no excuses for this but the worse ranked #1 in a while
@Maskxprx
@Maskxprx Рік тому
This means Purdue is going to win the championship next year just like Virginia
@bkboy2384
@bkboy2384 Рік тому
Incredible game and win
@tleoipl37
@tleoipl37 Рік тому
They deserve a movie
@kikio-rq9kx
@kikio-rq9kx Рік тому
YUP!!!
@adelhardtlyl
@adelhardtlyl Рік тому
I love March
@joshuaallen705
@joshuaallen705 Рік тому
That upset is still relevant regardless of the best player being there or not. NEXT MAN UP! UVA didn’t play like a 1-seed and it cost them. No excuses
@varrick1226
@varrick1226 Рік тому
Can we talk about how bad of a coach Matt Painter is
@YoLoBrOtHeR
@YoLoBrOtHeR Рік тому
Yeah, we really should tbh. They never played a zone and you have a talented big man. I don’y think he touched the ball after his missed free throw around the 8 min mark.
@Slickmick62
@Slickmick62 Рік тому
He always has a decent team & can never make it out the 1st round- he’s not good at coaching 😳
@oceanthresher6184
@oceanthresher6184 Рік тому
Virginia was the top seeded team in all of college basketball in 2018 and lost in blowout fashion. Is recency bias really masking something literally 5 years ago?
@dustinnunez5077
@dustinnunez5077 Рік тому
As Michigan Alum this really makes me happy.
@shakiemjeanjoseph428
@shakiemjeanjoseph428 Рік тому
It’s March and it’s Madness
@thefpvlife7785
@thefpvlife7785 Рік тому
Chuck always points out great info which has others agree without doubting him.
@Reasoncanrap
@Reasoncanrap Рік тому
Hitting points
@KK-pm7ud
@KK-pm7ud Рік тому
Purdue recruiting took a huge step back today
@steez8287
@steez8287 Рік тому
Not when you just won the big 10 and the big 10 tournament.
@reubensandwich9249
@reubensandwich9249 Рік тому
​@@steez8287 Nobody will remember that part from this year.
@steez8287
@steez8287 Рік тому
@reubensandwich9249 the big 10 will. Plus Purdue ranks 40th in recruiting. We develop players, not recruit star talent.
@maggiegarber246
@maggiegarber246 Рік тому
A 20 point beating is much more than this year’s 16 over a 1.
@thr33s
@thr33s Рік тому
Both were magical
@paulrobertson3079
@paulrobertson3079 Рік тому
Jason Kidds Cal team being beaten by a 15 seed was a bigger upset
@FuckYou8495
@FuckYou8495 Рік тому
At what point did his injury occur prior to the tournament
@kevinfinnerty8414
@kevinfinnerty8414 Рік тому
This means Purdue wins the National Championship next season. Get down on a future bet whenever it’s first available
@joesakic91
@joesakic91 Рік тому
Maybe.
@zodiacmediaproductions619
@zodiacmediaproductions619 Рік тому
No
@JK-br1mu
@JK-br1mu Рік тому
Dis was, I agree
@fbistatmajor5918
@fbistatmajor5918 Рік тому
I agree with Charles. This is the best
@Ewabound571
@Ewabound571 Рік тому
No ways. Umbc beat Virginia, who the next year were champions.
@letsgomets07
@letsgomets07 Рік тому
16 seeds won’t be slept on, beat tourney on the planetv
@EliKwapniowski
@EliKwapniowski Рік тому
I do see both of them of upsets. 16 seeds both took down 1 seeds.😑
@Sneakybux
@Sneakybux Рік тому
So the question is how would’ve Merrimack faired against this team
@tobylou8
@tobylou8 Рік тому
Sir Charles is right again!!
@coreyrowe4119
@coreyrowe4119 Рік тому
Both were bad losses but Purdue's is worse because they were at full strength while Virginia didn't have their best player and Virginia at least rebounded to win the natty the following year (which I highly doubt Purdue will be able to replicate).
@Ilkaygundogoat
@Ilkaygundogoat Рік тому
Yup
@andyodvor2927
@andyodvor2927 Рік тому
I must’ve been watching something else because I don’t remember Hunter being the best player in college any year🤣. Isn’t that the same year Zion, Ja and Barrett were in college?
@ybn_cornflakes
@ybn_cornflakes Рік тому
I'd say Virginia is a bigger upset only because they lost by 20. Other than that FDU has them beat in every category
@CC-jl7jz
@CC-jl7jz Рік тому
UMBC was hitting literally everything they threw up that night. They were hitting three's well beyond the arc all night long. On that night they could have beaten any team in the tournament. And yeah not having DeAndre Hunter was a huge handicap.
@TurboFist0
@TurboFist0 Рік тому
@@CC-jl7jz FDU (the smallest team in D1) straight up out fought and out played a much bigger team with a 7'4'' giant who will probably win national player of the year. This was literally David vs. Goliath.
@CC-jl7jz
@CC-jl7jz Рік тому
@BlaugranaFCB1 great points that's why this game was a much bigger upset than UMBC-Virgina. UMBC played great but take any teams beat player away and that team isn't the same.
@mhdab2416
@mhdab2416 Рік тому
@@TurboFist0 taiwan or china?
@YoLoBrOtHeR
@YoLoBrOtHeR Рік тому
@@TurboFist0 they don’t get it bro. Being a power forward/center getting out matched is common on the street, but they don’t play that position or they 6’8.
@davidtaylor1164
@davidtaylor1164 Рік тому
It's still Virginia, but it's awfully close. Umbc beat Virginia like a drum and that's the difference.
@crawjo
@crawjo Рік тому
Eh....Purdue was the weakest 1-seed in a very weak year overall. I think UMBC is still a bigger upset. Hunter was the best player the next year, but not that year. For me, the biggest upset in tourney history is still George Mason over Connecticut in the Elite Eight in 2006.
@thomasdougherty6737
@thomasdougherty6737 Рік тому
Purdue is the Atlanta Falcons of college basketball
@flysocietyZx
@flysocietyZx Рік тому
Fair point but Hunter wasn't even a starter that year.
@povertyspec9651
@povertyspec9651 Рік тому
Purdue was not even ranked when the season started. Starting two freshmen as guards who got worn out after the midway point of the season. And never getting any calls.
@crawdadde394
@crawdadde394 Рік тому
Umbc beat Virginia by 20 gimme a break Chuck
@kmac1766
@kmac1766 Рік тому
100 %
@big14black
@big14black Рік тому
Purdue last 3 Tournaments Lost to a 13, 15, and 16 seed. This is NOT the kind of history you wanna be making as a program
@nicholastrudeau7581
@nicholastrudeau7581 Рік тому
But UVA lost by 20 points!
@Drake_4
@Drake_4 Рік тому
Listen idc if they had their best player or not a loss is a loss. Give credit where credit is due. Virgina lost to a 16th seed fair and square.
@ahmadsamadzai8255
@ahmadsamadzai8255 Рік тому
Charles, stop your idiocy. UMBC win was like no other. 20 pts win over a #1 will remain the biggest upset.
@hakug2587
@hakug2587 Рік тому
Grent Singleton is 💰💰💰
@jacobkreiner7587
@jacobkreiner7587 Рік тому
Prior to the tournament FDU was in the 300's in NET
@toilet4441
@toilet4441 Рік тому
In a honestly Purdue just in themselves being Purdue is kinda an asterisk, nothing but disappointment from that program
@imjustsayingpodcast3422
@imjustsayingpodcast3422 Рік тому
This is definitely a bigger upset
@jdunc3789
@jdunc3789 Рік тому
Purdue wetting the bed as always. played healthy and all. Virginia didnt have Deandre Hunter that game, so this 16-1 upset is definitely more impressive.
@undrafted7968
@undrafted7968 Рік тому
Hunter was absolutely not "the best player in the country" in 2018. He didn't even start for Virginia that year! It's so infuriating that Charles Barkley knows nothing about college basketball and nobody else there wants to hurt his feelings by telling him he's wrong.
@letsgomets07
@letsgomets07 Рік тому
Both equal
@PeeedaPan
@PeeedaPan Рік тому
Purdue is such an embarrassment
@jessepaiz6356
@jessepaiz6356 Рік тому
There is an argument that the Virginia loss, even though they didn't have Hunter, still was the bigger one. Purdue really hasn't been good in like a month. The Big 10 tournament win, where Purdue didn't really look that good, really masked how bad Purdue has been. Purdue had lost 4 of 8 entering the conference tournament. They then got really lucky in the conference tournament as they played an Ohio St team that was exhausted and lost its best player to a knee injury, and they avoided 2 and 3 seeded Indiana and Northwestern, who they 0-3 against during the season. They barely squeaked by a hot Penn St team, that frankly outplayed Purdue for most the game. The warning signs were there that Purdue wasn't having a long tournament run. There is a reason why Farfield was confident entering the game, despite all their problems. You compare that to the Virginia team that had lost one game during ACC play in a much stronger ACC play. They gone 31-2, were ranked number one, and while they lost Hunter, it's important to note Hunter came off the bench that year. He was good and very athletic for them, but he only played 20 minutes a game for them and was not as good as he be the next year where he would double his scoring on incredibly efficient numbers. Virginia were an actual elite team, unlike this Purdue team, who was in sync and top form entering March Madness, even with no Hunter. Most importantly of all, Virginia also had a huge mental factor on their side that no 16 had ever beat a one seed at that point. That's a huge mental advantage for them. UMBC had what was considered impossible. I would only rank the Purdue loss higher purely because Purdue loss to a worse team that lost its conference tournament.
@zachlong2464
@zachlong2464 Рік тому
Disagree about the mental factor part. That actually added a tremendous amount of pressure on UVA. They had all of the pressure of trying not to be the first 1 seed to lose. The big picture of this Purdue loss is that the UMBC game wasn’t some 1-off thing. The gap between 1 and 16 is smaller than it used to be. Expect a 16 over 1 upset once every 5 years or so moving forward.
@steveroe6771
@steveroe6771 Рік тому
Whothe heck is FDU? It was FAU that beat Purdue, not FDU.
@JonesDylan874
@JonesDylan874 22 дні тому
Fairleigh Dickinson.
@whatlol_e
@whatlol_e Рік тому
i think fdu makes a bigger run
@Antbeast23
@Antbeast23 Рік тому
Pg play was horrible for Purdue
@hollywoodmkx
@hollywoodmkx Рік тому
I don’t call it an upset. As long as you’ve got faith in yourself, the skill and the will to play, a designated number next to your name doesn’t mean anything. Go in and play.
@Owen004
@Owen004 Рік тому
FDU is a 17 seed really lol didn’t even win their conference
@tonywong8134
@tonywong8134 Рік тому
Deandre Hunter was a bench player that year...granted he was 6th man in ACC, but he was not the player he was.
@panther189_
@panther189_ Рік тому
FDU- smallest team in the country, worst conference in the country, 5th worst D in the country, didn't win regular season or tournament title, HC & 3 of there best players are from D2 last yr, just beat a 1 seed thats the tallest team in the country with the college player of the yr. Biggest upset in college basketball history . bigger than Chaminade vs Virginia
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