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12:11 Sherman face when Skip said that 😭😭😭😭

Lmao, That "Thanks to me" from Sherman at the beginning was hilarious.

Skip says a lot of off the wall stuff 😂😂😂 “just take it, take it, suck it up, swalllow it”

I'm shocked. Skip NEVER talked about Mahomes this much before unless he lost a game

Richard Sherman has always made good arguments even on his podcast before this show. When he starts talking football you start to learn a thing or two.

I love when people try to discredit Tom’s final SB as if it was easy but I remember literally EVERY SINGLE PERSON in sports media EXCEPT Skip picking the Saints, then the packers, and then Chiefs against them 🤔

Love it when key and sherm have that moment of realizing what type of show they are on, and Skip is who we think he is

Can definitely feel the show starting to get more chemistry.

I used to stay that about Manning that it would be crazy to hear someone say they never seen Payton Manning play, and now that’s happening. Time moves fast

The narrative that it's just Mahomes and Reid stops this year. Our defense is playing lights out if they keep this up we have a top 5 defense in the NFL this year for Mahomes first time in his career.

Key saying Peyton isn’t in the discussion with Montana, Brady & Mahomes is insane.

One thing y’all keep forgetting when y’all say that Patrick mahomes has carried the team is, ALEX SMITH looked great the years before mahomes took over. He took them to the playoffs 4 years in a row. They had a high flying offense before mahomes even got there. He made them better but it wasn’t like they were a bad team when he came in.

This show can’t keep Brady out of its mouth🙄

Even in Brady 3 superbowl losses, the patriots actually had a 4th quarter lead, so Brady played well enough to win all 10 superbowls.

Super Bowl 49 wasnt a gift just because of the last play. seatle were lucky to even get to the goalline with that jugling catch before

So Skip criticized Mahomes' last super bowl performance? I used to be a Mahomes hater. Then I saw him win that game on a high ankle sprain. Can't hate anymore.

Gunna be hard when we watched a very old brady bounce prime mahomes from a afc championship and a superbowl

Skip found something new to use against Mahomes. Shocker lol

The chemistry of this show gets better everyday.

GOAT discussions are always subjective. Brady’s story is unparalleled in modern sports because there’s no reason he should have been what he was. If you just watch Pat, he should be this good because of his athleticism.

That field goal for Brady's first SB over the Rams is still the straightest long distance field goal I've ever seen anyone make 😆

Skip keeps calling Mahomes a kid, the man is 28. Show some respect.

Yoooooo look at Sherm when Skip said take it suck it up swallow it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m dying

This was their best show yet. I can watch this...

Who else isn't surprised by skips take on mahomes? Skip is a piece of work.

12:10 suck it up, swallow it lmaoooo SHERMANS reaction lmfao!!!!!!!!

“Thanks to this guy seating next to me” Sherm “ThAnKs To Me?”😂😂😂

Thing is Jordon never got a chance to play lebron and beat him, Brady played mahomes and beat him twice in the biggest game to win 2 superbowls at the cost of mahomes

Brady came in at absolute perfect timing when the Pats were peaking after Parcells and Bill had built a great team and he won 3 SBs in a fashion similar to Terry Bradshaw Superbowl wins with the Steel Curtain. Back then he was already an important piece to those wins, though. Against Carolina he answered Jake Delhomme drive for drive. What really establishes him as the greatest, however, is when he rejuvenated his powers at 36 and won the other 3 SBs. After 2009 he was the main force of the Patriots. He kept them in every game they played and he was the very definition of consistency. When he went to Tampa, he squeezed out the very last of his powers and won another one as the culmination of everything he had learned and developed in New England. Pat Mahomes is Favre and Elway put together. His stats are off the charts much like Mannings and Rodgers. The NFL runs through him now. But it is way too early to crown him. He needs to go to at least to win two more SBs and maybe go to an additional one or two which he loses. To me, he isn't scratching Brady's, Manning's and Montana's legacy until then.

“Take it, take it, suck it up, swallow it” 🤣🤣🤣😭💀💀💀 AYOOOOO

Nah when 12:11 he said just suck it up and swallow he was holding in that laugh😂😂😂

Despite the seven rings, Tom Brady is the GOAT for a few reasons: One, he's a clutch QB - he shows up WHEN IT MATTERS MOST. Two, he and his team beat the best teams (04' Steelers, 14' Seahawks, 01' Rams, 16' Falcons, 18' Rams, 13' Broncos, etc.) and outsmarts great defensive teams through reading blitz, risky decisions, and quickness. Three, breaks and hold records that may not be broken. Four, made millions of NFL fans cry and crush their dreams. Five, he terrorized the NFL for TWO DECADES. Six, he played as an elite caliber QB while playing in his 40s, and final reason, the only QB, along with his team, to go undefeated in a regular season. Call him a "cheater" and hate him all you want, but you can't deny his greatness, nor think that anybody can surpass him as the GOAT.

If Key wants to nitpick Brady's Super Bowl wins, then you have to look at the losses. In each of Brady's three losses in the Super Bowl, he left the field with New England *in the lead.* The defense would then come in and promptly give up a touchdown. And in the loss to Philly, the Patriots literally let Nick Foles throw for 500 yards -- in a Super Bowl!

12:12 why skip say to swallow it and sherm waitin for him to say pause lol

The final boss battle is nostalgia.

At 12:12 sherm face killed me I literally had to make sure I wasn’t trippin 😭

7-2. Mahomes is never overtaking Brady. The way Mahomes plays he might burn out by mid to late 30's, not to mention once Reid goes who knows how KC might play. Brady finished with 35 Playoff wins, 88 Playoff TD's, 19 Division titles, 15 Pro Bowl selections, 46 4th Quarter comebacks, 102,614 yards Reg. and Post season yards and 23 Seasons in the League. I'll be astonished if Mahomes gets near any of them but if any current QB can do it its him

Look at Sherman face at 12:13🤣🤣🤣skip wilding

Tom went to Tampa as a 42 year old man to prove that he was not a system quaterback and won the superbowl. I think Pat needs to do something similar, he needs to ultimately leave KC and do it somewhere else when he gets older like Peyton and Tom.

Aye yoooo.Pause ... It's ok just take it, take it, suck it up, swallow it.....😮😂😂😂 Richard Sherman face says it all.

This show is better with this format I really enjoy listening to Sherman

Just Take it, just take it, suck it up, swallow it😂😂 Skip is wild😂12:10

Patrick Lavon Mahomes II can do things on the field that David Copperfield can't even do performing magic tricks.That's my guy,and he's gonna beat the 49'ers this year for another Superbowl.

Yeah dat Tuck Rule fumble was Super clutch I can dig it!!

He did not have to do that to Sherman 😂😂😂😂

Tom brady also owns the record for most regular season wins, playoff wins, completions, yards, and touchdowns, to name a few. Also 7 superbowl wins.. no Patrick mahomes wont pass him as the GOAT unless he wins the the Superbowl every other year for the next 12 years (making 8 to pass). And to catch Brady in passing stats Mahomes would have to average over 5,000 yards and 38 passing touchdowns for the next 12 years straight, assuming no injuries, and that he plays until he is 40 without any decline.

I think if Mahomes gets 5 and is the reason his team won, and puts up numbers I will say Mahomes. I agree with Keyshawn that the first two championships were because of defense and running game more than Brady. Having said that I can't discount the 500 yd game against Philly in a loss and the fact Eli won in a last minute drive twice with all-time plays. Those losses are on the Patriots defense.

Why is chorus on this audio? 🤔

This new setup is extremely natural and smooth

I can't believe virtually everyone gives Mahomes a slide for the SB he got embarrassed and exposed in. Brady faced some insane pass rush against those Giants teams as well, but he was at least able to put up a touchdown

Thing about Brady is that he has won with so many different kinds of teams and coordinators. Being as good as he was with a revolving door of players because Bill focused the team's resources on defense and special teams is not easy. Like even with Andy Reid's schemes I don't think I see Mahomes turning two QBs turned slot receiver (Amendola, Edelman) and a laxbro (Hogan) as his deep threat to come back from 28-3 in a super bowl.

Sherm wanted to say pause so bad lmao

Patrick Mchomes is magical❤

another important question is ‘can anyone age like brady did’ …i don’t see mahomes aging THAT well

Skip didn't go crazy for Brady like he used to when Shannon was on. He doesn't want to lose these guys either.

This show lit

Skip blended in at the Snow game and that’s why Keyshawn didn’t see him 😂🤣

My God, can we go ONE day without comparing Mahomes to Brady?? And now Mahokes new contract is another excuse??? Brady is the GOAT and thats that. Mahomes isn't gonna have Kelce long enough to surpass Bradys rings. Mahomes body is highly unlikely to last long enough given his physical style of play. Brady played TWENTY TWO seasons!! Mahomes isn't lasting that long. Brady won BEFORE he had Gronk m, BEFORE he had Edelman. I get it that people like the nerfball style of football that Mahomes plays, but it isn't sustainable to surpass Brady as the GOAT. sorry to break it to you kids

I'd say Brady is the goat because of the 7 rings, but also in having 3 seperate hall of fame careers in one career. He's at the top in all stat categories too.

Shermans face when Skip said swallow it. Pause.

The audio sounds kind of bad?

from 12:15-12:21 can we get a big PAUSE 😂😂😂😂😂

I’m 27 years old I’ve never seen MJ play, and he’s the best ever to do it.

Am I the only one that thinks skip sounds like maury on the outro of the video?😂😅

In a capped sport you cant have your cake and eat it too. You cannot have a top 10-5 defense if you have multiple weapons on offense. When Brady won his first 3 he did it without a hall of fame WR or Hall of fame RB. Aikemen had a great Defense in the 90s and had a hall of fame WR and RB... Those teams were so good that he won it in blowout fashion... Brady was in a shootout with Deon Branch and David Givens against Carolina. Played with less early on and won when the game was on the line. Once he got real weapons he was an MVP caliber QB every year. Then In his 40s he got to play in an era where QBs can do what ever they want and put up better numbers in his last 5 years than any 5 year period of his career. Mahomes was shutout of the endzone in a superbowl. Mahomes Won the Coin toss in overtime and lost at home, by throwing a pick at home. They both benefited from a Great Head Coach. Mahomes is amazing and has had the hottest start to a Career we have ever seen. We will see what the next 10 years will bring. So many QBs have retired before 35 let alone 45. If Mahomes plays til 40 he has a chance. If he retires at 35 and only has 3 superbowls no way. But Right now he is the Best in the league and I would love to see where he ends up.... But Brady has 2 separate Dynasties winning 3 out of 4 to start his career and 3 of 5 to win at the end of his career in New England. And went to 2 in the middle when they were "rebuilding". Oh and won a superbowl in his 3rd decade for good measure on a new team. Winning a superbowl in 3 different Decades and to have 2 dyansties like Brady is why he is so amazing.

Mahomes can but we said the same thing about Rodgers and Favre Mahomes isn’t really close right now but he can definitely pass him with maybe 2 MVPS and 3 to 4 more rings

Dirty secret about the Pats / Seahawks Super Bowl is that Tom Brady and Edelman owned that defense. Wilson threw an awful pick, but they lost that game because the defense wasn't better than the Pats offense. Period.

It’s crazy because Skip was the only one who said he liked KC drafting Mahomes Shannon & CC said they didn’t like Mahomes because “the cookie not ready yet”

Geezus Skip leaving TB12 knob real pink when he's done gagging on it.

Brady career is the better story, from underdog late round pick to system QB, to growing into an elite quarterback to master the position that dominated football for 2 decades

Impossible. Unlike LeBron and Jordan, Mahomes and Brady played each other in the 2 biggest games. Mahomes lost both times. This debate is over before it begins. Mahomes won't sniff 7 rings either

Also Elway should be in discussion

Mahomes is ever so slightly growing on Skip! 😂

Mahomes....its too early. Lets she how he ages. When he's older and how he deals with not being an athletic young talent. He's Roy Jones right now....and he grow into a Bernard Hopkins.....if he does.....he's the GOAT

Mahomes needs 5 more rings, 3 more SB MVPs, 1 more MVP, 3 more All Pro teams and like 60,000 more pass yards and 400 more pass TDs just to match what Brady did. It’s gonna be a challenge.

You cant convince me Skip doesn't bust at least 2 nuts when he has these deep Brady Conversations 😂😂

Patrick Mahomes is Kobe Bryant of the NFL 🏈.

To say Peyton Manning isn’t in the discussion is a wild take by Keyshawn Johnson. He broke the passing TD record twice with two different teams and won two out of four super bowls. Took two different teams to the Super Bowl twice.

How come Brady’s “pandemic”SB chip is legitimate but LeBron’s “bubble” chip isn’t 🤔Can somebody ask Skip plz.

Sherman brings so much to the show. Skip is lucky

GOAT discussions are nothing more than personal opinions, it’s really about the best of their generation as the game always changes

Mahomes had future hof TE, WR, and a head coach who was already very successful before him. Yes I know Reid didn’t win a super bowl before Mahomes but he led the Eagles to 1 and multiple trips to the conference championship game. Brady on the hand had no elite WR and TE in his first 3 trips to the super bowl and had an overrated coach who’s never even coached in the conference championship game and only made 1 playoff appearance before letting Brady play. Complete BS whenever media says that Brady had more help in his first few Super Bowls.

Skip say field goal kickers impacting football games is so frustrating but never acknowledges brady comebacks are normally always capped by a fg not a td that the kicker actually had to drill incredible

“Tuesday morning troll meeting.” “I’ll troll Patrick Mahomes.” Skip gayness

Do people not understand Mahomes play style will not last by the time he’s in his mid 30s he heavily relies on his ability to move outta the pocket and as he gets older that will go away

Lol why key do rich like that in the beginning tho lmao 😅

Killing his own argument it's hard to win one he says that's right and Brady won 7 and went to 10 until Patrick wins 7 I don't want to hear it

Brady won all his chips with a top 5 defense. Skip is crazy

mahomes had kelce and hill. 2 sure fire HOF and Andy Reid a coach who had gone to the super bowl. Also, the rams offense was playing without Gurley, who had gotten hurt and basically never recovered and is out of the league. That wasnt the sames rams offense that played all year.

I dont care what anybody thinks I think Skip is a legend. But i do hope his "just take it, take it, suck it up and swallow it" line becomes a meme lmao

Difference between this debate and LeBron vs Jordan is we never saw/will see Jordan vs LeBron in a game let alone a finals, we saw Mahomes vs Brady and Brady won case close tbh

Brady is the best QB of all time in my book and always will be. Not only does he have 7 rings but he’s beat some of the all time great teams to get them like the greatest show on turf St. Louis Rams, the McNabb led Eagles and the Chiefs just to name a few.

Key tripping saying Peyton not one of them ones. And the Andy Reid disrespect needs to stop. The man makes qb wherever he's been.

With all said and done, it’s incredible live in a age that goes straight from Tom to Mahomes. Luckiest generation to watch football for sure.

Mahomes is on pace so I wouldn’t put it pass him but he would have to play well into his 40’s

A big question will be how long will Mahomes have that speed and athleticism that makes him so special? I can see him slowing down in his thirties and not being able to move as well as he does. if he can adapt his game and still be winning SB's when he's approaching 40, then he could definitely become the GOAT

The conversation is absolutely linked to Andy Reid.

Mahomes has two amazing traits as a QB that I'm not sure you can teach. One is his throwing platform - most QBs have one way they can release the ball in the pocket and one way they can release the ball on the run. He can go straight over the top or totally sideways, or even almost underhanded, from anywhere on the field, on the run or in the pocket. That's something that will translate to old age. His other amazing ability is to improvise by buying time with his feet. That is going to fade in the next few years. If he stays healthy he will still be very good in 5-10 years, but he wont' be as effective as he is right now. So many of his amazing plays have come when something breaks down. Once he can't evade the rush outside the pocket anymore, he will come back down to earth

Key never fails to amaze me when it comes to not knowing what he's talking about. The Patriots had a great defense in the early 2000's, but don't just discredit what Brady did. Some people like to say that the early 2000's Patriots teams were carried by their defenses. From 2001-2006, the Patriots only had 1 WR/TE with a 1,000+ yard season. During that time, Brady had the 3rd highest passing yardage in the NFL, and led the league in passing yards in 05. He also was 3rd in TD passes from 01-06, and led the league in TD passes in 02. We also can't forget how clutch Brady was on the playoffs during these years. Doesn't sound like a guy that was carried by a defense. The Patriots didn't start to build a real offense around Brady until 2007. And we all know what happened that season. Then this guy wants to talk about how the Seattle Superbowl was "gift wrapped" like Brady and the Pats didn't pick apart the best defense in the league, lol. But when it comes to Mahomes it's all "well if so and so wasn't off sides and oh if the defense wasn't hurt". This guy is the worst. As far as Mahomes goes, he is the best QB in the league and has been for a few years. He's not close to passing Brady, but he's off to as good a start as you can probably have. Dude has balled out. But it's also hard to compare the 2 because Brady started playing in a completely different era also. I don't think Mahomes would have to equal Brady in Superbowls, but Brady's greatness goes further than the Superbowls.