Yes. Right now the relationship looks like that a fat cat to a plague infested rat. China is about to eat Russia.... Wake up.

what kept you from hearing from them? is someone else in charge of your keyboard?

@@secretbassrigs Or hear me out, "free and independent" media aren't keen on airing views of others. Not rocket science

fully agreed 😊

Me too. 👏👏👏👏

Not to mention the silent majority having to swallow the Trans nonsense or crazy family set ups. Every victim of civil crime and lawlessness which is not in China or Russia.

@@787maggie China done no other country had done before by standing up against Anglophone bullying and getting away with it. Anglophone Fascism has tried Hong Kong, Taiwan unsuccessfully and they’ll try Uyghurs not that they care Muslim Uyghurs but to stop China become competitor to themselves. Hopefully China will put them in their place

Do you have any idea what Fascism is? How is it Fascist to sympathize with people who want freedom?

AmeriKKKa, a RACIST 3rd-world nation, a very dangerous animal to world peace, freedom, democracy, prosperity

Spot on!! That's why Africa has never developed. European countries just want to reap the benefits and do as they wish everywhere in the world. The west is so mad to see China surpassing them in many fields nowadays despite the sanctions and bans.

@Robert Blando You missed some 'KK's', its spelled Ameri-KKK-a

Yep, the conflicts starts when China was trying to move up the value chain.

There is no example of free market capitalism in any of these three countries. If you think that's wrong... Read Adam Smith for the definition.

It's literally Putin threatening it

How so ?

Not quite right, Putin said on the ieve on "SMO" !f West gets involved they will see a response never before seen in history. I would interpret that as a nuclear threat

Glad somebody raised this fact, that Putin NEVER threatened to use nuclear weapons…what you pointed out in how he said it is EXACTLY as is.. well done Sir/Madam.

He made a fool from himself when he dived in military issues - he also said "Russian military is backward" when, in real life, Russian military is decades ahead of Chinese lol - chines subs are decades behind russians or western ones, missiles are a generation behind, and the same go for aviation...

He's an Anglophile, famous for being so in China so don't expect more from him

@17:24 China are trying to do the same thing against Taiwan and the rest of theirs neighbors 🤣😅 Did you know China threatened South Korea for installed U.S made air defense system in their own territory for self defense??

@@oneviwatara9384 Taiwan is part of China. Not a seperate country. Read about Chinese Civil War and First Sino-Japanese War if you want to know more why Taiwan is administratively split from the Mainland. And China never threatened South Korea. But if they become US' accomplice in undermining Chinese sovereignty, don't expect relation between China-ROK will improve.

@@cungcung5042 Wrong, 😂🤣😂 hence ROC was the original founders of both modern China and modern Taiwan from 1911 to 1972 was never ever became part of the CCP before, during or after the CCP became an independence country from Taiwan in 1972 with the helped from US illegally without Taiwan consent by removing Taiwan from the United Nations members country and replacing it with the CCP as the new member of the United Nations members country since then the CCP have been using an illegal agreement to justified their claimed over Taiwan as part of China that's how the One China policy came about 🤣🤣 Taiwan itself was originally founded by the indigenous peoples thousands of years ago not the Qing dynasty (Manchurian) or the ROC or the CCP or the overseas Chinese hence they only migrated to Taiwan during the Dutch occupation of Taiwan 🤣🤣🤣😂

@@oneviwatara9384 the whole world officially recognize Taiwan as part of China ( pls study before comment)

@@choigold5094 You mean the CCP threaten those countries to choose sides after they became economic superpower??

🤣🤣And what is so fatal with the USA friends UK , Germany and France ?! 🤣🤣🤣 Probably Venezuela and Cuba are very good?!🤣🤣🤣

You mean colonized vassals not friends.

America has made many terrible mistakes in my life time, but let's face facts: Would you rather be a citizen of South Korea or a slave in North Korea? Would you have rather been a citizen in West Germany or whatever it was that you were in East Germany? American are too self-centered and too ignorant of the world outside her borders to be an effective world power but few nations have ever fought sincerely for human rights which America often has, even though the rights of the humans were not well served. Without America it is quite likely that Europeans would be speaking not German but Russian. it is easy to criticize America, I've spent most of my 78 years doing it (starting with the hideous cluster### of the Viet Nam War), but what is China's human right's policy? Last time I checked China has none. The whole world sees how Russia values human life by the unforgivable daily war-crimes in Ukraine. I am an American citizen although not a big flag waver. In fact, I have not been in America for 12 years. I think it would be good to make sense when discussing the relative treats to world security. The comments should fit within the context of facts both good and bad for America's reputation.

​@Georgi Stoynov The U.S. blew up the nord stream pipeline, which was a lifeline to the German economy, just to make sure Germany never developed positive relations with Russia and to keep Germany under the U.S. influence. That's how dangerous it is to be "friends" with the U.S.

​@@joeyfotofr The U.S. backs many dictatorships around the world, many of them in the middle east, and the people there live in poverty. Why do you think the Iranians revolted against the Shah in 1971 and antiwestern regime came to power? To remove the Shah that was reinstated after removing the elected Mohammad musaddegh by western backed coup in 1956. The U.S. removes elected governments when it doesn't suit them, and backs dictatorships when it suits them, all that bs about democracy and freedom is nothing more than lies and dust in the eyes, ask the half a million children in Iraq about their freedom.

maybe you need to live in Putin's world. You have it too good in the great USA

@@enjoythedreamlife5658 yours is a truly weird response to such a tame comment.

@@TheDaeroner crazy people support lunatics, looks like you are one 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@enjoythedreamlife5658 you're obviously incapable of independent critical thought... a sheep, the best product of the American propaganda machine.

@@TheDaeroner poor little lost sole, Xi got you up a tree and you still believe in the communist way, Many smart chinese leave in disgust, that is why they come to Great USA for FREEEEDOM. Powder brain you have no thought

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Thank you, I was losing hope there was a sane voice in the comment section. An alliance based on mutual needs is an alliance indeed. Something Western society does not seem to grasp

@@davidmoss2576 It's not only on mutual needs, it's survival. Glad both countries have leaders that understand it and made best decisions for their country.

Indeed ideology still works, maybe in a very subtle way, since if you check you can find recently China gave Belarus a very intimate title for partnership, the only nation having better title from China is Pakistan.

The US once supported Suharto, the military dictator of Indonesia who killed 1.000.000 people and invaded Timor Lester, all because they needed allies in Southeast Asia to counter communism but once Soviet Union fall, the US dumped Suharto like a street dog real quick by engineering financial crisis in late 90's. so yeah youre kinda right, the US only served its own self-interest even towards its own allies.

someone cannot make money when the world has peace.

The US empire profits from war. Expecting peace is delusional.

We cannot control other people's behaviors. we must rise to what we know and do better, showing the world there are other ways to prosper. We should focus on what we can do and not on what they doing wrong. Since there is nothing to learn from that.

Russia is decades ahead of China in military tech ( nukes, missiles, submarines, etc - even if prof. Lanxin seems to have no clue about such facts, yet he comments about, inventing BS...) and Russia can help China build modern submarines and missiles, in exchange for chips manufacture tech...

And they can trust each other against USUK warmongers thus save themselves from being invaded and robbed by them.

It cannot be Biden .............................🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

@@yliang1688 It cannot be Trump either.

Therefore it cannot be in the US at this time.

Especially Integrity. That's most important if there's to be trust.

@@kwokholuk8723 At least Trump said in 2019 to Zelensky: "Talk with Putin". That's a start. So far Biden had never such intention.

Happens all the time. Of course any critical voices are never shown in China at all.

@@happyhappynuts How do you you know that?

@@oswarz because I have studied in China and lived in China for many years.

amost never. americans know absolutely nothing about china. dont want to. prefer to see chinese as sub human like some people during ww2.

@@happyhappynuts any links to serious experts. not cia plants.

But no one thought the dragon would be so much stronger than the bear

of course the Dragon may experience another "Mao Revolution" - if their economy melts and the 'hardcore commies leadership' will have to deal with the internal chinese economic issues for decades ! and then of course The Eagle can make a deal with with The Bear ( for the natural resources alone ! ) - post UKRaine Era .... 🙂

and Hong Kong and India and Japan and Vietnam

China's problem with Taiwan is only with the US meddling and its puppet party there.

@@tonym842 Really, so Taiwan's government actions of independence and self governance are completetly ok? Like Hong Kong?

Where there is American where there are conflicts, hatred and shadow of wars.

China knows if Russia loses, they will be targeted next by US aggression.

Well stated. But China's respect for sovereignty and international law goes beyond just Russia though, it extends even to their longtime rival India. With ongoing land disputes, its astounding how both civilizations are able to put aside their enmity and agree at the very least on troop disarmament on the borders, using sticks and makeshift physical weapons instead. And that I think is a key understanding to China that the US somehow missed, deliberately or otherwise. What has become increasingly clear is 1) the growing nervousness of US in confronted with another superpower state 2) need to create a boogeyman entity to satiate the weapons industry and soothe primary domestic issues on racial violence, housing shortages and income inequality.

your translation app is terrible.

@@accountantthe3394 , Your micro focus and shallow logic using obtuse fallacies as a ploy to put the focus on the US as the bad guy is apparent to everyone but you and those you work with and for under the Ministry of State Security. THE TRUTH IS, VLADIMIR PUTIN AND XI JINPING HAVE THE SAME GOALS OF RELABELING AND LEGITIMIZING THEIR TYRANNICAL AND BANKRUPT RECORDS AS POLITICAL LEADERS. They both see the conquering of sovereign nations, Ukraine and Taiwan, as their tools to actually do the distracting, the actual satiating and soothing of abject domestic conditions they are each responsible for creating, not as you speciously projected such onto the US. Today Russia and China have become international spectacles of catastrophic policy failures the whole free world can easily recognize. In contrast, Putin and Xi can only continue to portray the people of Russia and China as being still too corrupt, incompetent and morally inferior to be able to enjoy basic liberties such as freedom of information and freedom of speech responsibly, unlike the rest of humanity is able to. Your projections of PRC China's actual nefarious activities onto the US are textbook wumao state propaganda tactics of false equivalency propaganda. The government creating boogeymen to distract from its true evil intents is your CCP occupied government, not the US government. Every US executive administration has always honored the Taiwan status quo agreement between the US and the CCP. Every US executive administration has also always honored Russian sovereignty. Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping claiming the opposite is nothing but politically farcical and revealing of how they are desperate to hold on to power by resorting to such shameless tactics. They have committed so many betrayals and sins against their counterparts, they know what they are deserving of from their political victims and peers in Russia and China. The political alliance between Russia and China are only between Putin and Xi, and it is very weak if not already fractured. Xi Jinping revealed his hand to Putin when he failed to invade Taiwan in coordination with Putin's invasion of Ukraine. He left Putin stranded as the only target of international condemnation, using Putin like a scapegoat to test the alertness and formidability of the free world's condemnation. Xi knew he could benefit his own reputation as a legitimate leader in China in the short term, by imply berating and gaining leverage over Russia and Putin. By simply portraying and glorifying himself as Russia's Han Chinese savior as well as China's, in contrast to modern history, it feeds the narrative keeping him in power in China. Like a typical communist dictator, Xi only proved his narcissism was always his priority over any self preserving alliance or ability to prove being capable of one. It will result in his down fall before Putin's if he decides to invade Taiwan now. Xi realizes how dependent he will become on Putin if he invades Taiwan now. It will invite a tit for tat failure to commit betrayal from Putin as a last laugh and retribution for Xi's, when the international lens and condemnation is turned and focused on him and China. The economic ramifications from committing a war of aggression against a sovereign nation with so many allies such as Taiwan will only bankrupt the CCP and depriving him of his ability to reward his lapdogs and henchmen in the PLA. The unified revolt against draconian and despotic COVID lockdowns in China should be evidence to you that returning to 1950's social restrictions and government atrocities will not be tolerated by the masses in China anymore. I hope you realize now, you have always been on the side of an ideological war that was always destined to lose. If there is anything you remember from reading my reply, always remember this, the greatest fool is the fool that dies for a lost cause the day the war ended.

@@secretbassrigs Nah your comprehension is

@@accountantthe3394 nah! You're a meatbot. ,😂👉🇰🇵💩🇨🇳

yeah, Xiang has a strong tendency to please the West audience and pretend he is better than ordinary Chinese instead of giving them the straight pill.

Yea, brotherly... Like Cain & Abel.

And Chas Freeman.

@@tyn6211 Chas Freeman is like a sage who knows CN exceptionally well and solid, unfortunately nowadays ppl who can influence Sino-US policies in the US are infantile buffoons.

agreed

It is just such great civilisation states that understands each other and the vagaries of international politics that binds both together and protects each other against the hegemonist West.

Nonsense. Nobody makes friends with a vicious corrupt failed-state like Putine's Russia. Chairman Xi is looking at Russia and thinking of all that land in Asia that Putine can not defend. Most American's are so ignorant that you can serve them any mental slop and they just eat it.

Nonsense. Russia is diseased and China, while much more powerful has internal problems that are being ignored. As I wrote above, China is about to eat Russia. If you call that a "relationship," you must believe in cannibalism.

We need more foodsupplies globally than war.

The US declared that Russia and China are enemies. But who would ally with US?

Because he's a Anglophile - many of such in China and these people tend to trust mainstream English information sources more than anything!

I'd rather watch the Duran channel and the new atlas channel regarding the Russo-Ukraine war and the Russian military than this

Also in order to make EU tired and broke by prolonging the war. The war ended the moment Ukraine ran out of its weapon stock. Currently it’s ongoing because Ukraine is borrowing the weapons but Russia will use war of grinding and attrition. Ukraine military morale is getting down slowly and the conflict within the ranks is slowly increasing. Watch general Zulijini take over

This is one of the few apt comments here. Rather than Russia's Army being a dismal failure at this point, they have been steadily achieving their objective of demilitarization. What nobody has mentioned is that the SMO demonstrates the power of the S-300 air defense in the hands of Ukraine, because even in a degraded condition it has still prevented the Russian air force from doing a US style bombing campaign to reduce fortified targets such as Bakhmut.

Russia is simply spanking Ukraine for taking US guns and killing ethnic Russians. Russia has no need to 'conquer' Ukraine. Ukraine is a corrupt third-world country good for mail-order-brides. Americans want them, but Russian women are way better. So why would Russia want this corrupt backward country. Once Russia has spanked all the US-guns out of Ukraine, they will leave it alone (but make sure Americans cannot re-enter).

That was sticky way of saying that he said what his patrons wanted to hear . . . not the current facts. Example, Russia has a no first use of nukes policy, the US does not. Also, Russia did not bring up nuke discussion, several leaders in the West did, including short lives UK prime minister Theresa May. Russia responded with, we have them too and ours are better than yours.

😊😊😊😊😊

Russia needs a General Sherman, not a McClellan.

This is actually the most common type of conflict. Look at Irish conflicts, look at India-Pakistan, so-called brother people's and "similar" languages/races are quite likely to have conflicts.

you are right on target this speaker is blatanly lying to please his audience and looks smart in front of them really sad

You have wishful thinking that China and Russia aren't friends but more you resist they better friends they become.Quess when you go to Russia you sing deferant stories.

Over the years I finally realized that individualism, freedom, liberty sounded good but in reality are bunch of ideological hypocrisy. The most important issues facing a society are Justice and prosperity. Tianmin was defined by Western propaganda. Majority of Chines Are happy with their current rulers. If you know Chinese history you’d understand. Let us talk also about the color revolutions all over the world, South American countries’ democratically elected socialism government being subverted and replaced by Western supported dictators and the millions civilians death in Mideast.

But in Chinese society, there is no justice to talk about. One big example is that people have no freedom to move from the countryside to the city or anywhere to anywhere. Nowadays, due to western manufacturing needs, China has a lot of job opportunities so the rule has changed that the countryside peasants can go to work in the city but they don’t have any benefits, not even their children going to schools nearby for the same amount of money as someone who has a city “hukou” (a local resident id). Once they lose the job, they need to go back to the countryside where their “hukou” is. Government owns the land and people who own apartments don’t own the land. Examples like this are countless. Look at the Shanghaier’s COVID restrictions that lasted 2 months: no one was allowed to get out of their buildings. Many died due to not able to get dialysis, surgery, asthma inhalers…… now they suddenly opened up without any preparation. government continues to reject free western vaccine. Old people are dying in droves……crematoriums in many big cities work 24/7 but still have to wait for 10 days. The hospitals are not allowed to categorize patients as COVID for as long as they have any other diseases but most of old people have one thing or another. Now I heard new rules require many to pay for their treatment. Hospitals are like refugee camps. Sick people are in every corner waiting to be seen. Doctors don’t have the means to treat due to lack of medications and equipments. No one writes about all the society’s problems because government controls the press. People’s posts of anything bad got deleted in hours or even minutes. It’s a surveillance country, no freedom or humanity to talk about. This type of society is the result of the worst combination: “tian ming” (dictatorship) and communist ideology (dictatorship plus much more cruelty and controls but in the name of people). This Chinese scholar doesn’t talk about anything the Chinese government does domestically, which I believe is the essence of it all. He paints a decent picture of the Chinese government and blames the American government for getting it all wrong. He sounds like a Chinese government’s mouth piece. Our war is of course the fight between democracy and autocracy. The recent rise of ultra right in different western societies is only a problem of our diversified time. They do not have the power to change our societies. The 2020 US presidential election and 2022 midterm elections are the best proofs. But Russia and China’s aggressions must be stopped, just like in WW2, Germany and Japan were stopped. China and Russia’s relationship is nothing else but based on their desire to conquer and their hate of democratic governments.

@@Carol-vk7wg What about red lining in the US, where black and brown people cannot own a house in white only neighborhoods? What about "driving while black" in the US, where minorities simply cannot drive to certain areas for fear of being killed by the police. The so called "freedom" in the US is a white only freedom...so it is no freedom at all.

@@thefruitofuscolonialism5870 America is a much fairer country than China. It’s ruled by law, not by an individual. No one in the USA has unlimited power like China’s Xi Jingping because there are 3 branches in the government to limit each other’s power. The 3 branches of the government are elected by the American people. Of course, that doesn’t mean a free society like America is perfect with no discriminations at all. There are plenty needs improvement and people can voice themselves. However, there is no such thing as black and brown people can not own a house in the white neighborhoods. I am a Chinese, or none white. I live in a primarily white neighborhood. I saw blacks and Latinos walking by often. I don’t deny that there are self-segregated neighborhoods, meaning a neighborhood contains mostly white or mostly black, but no one can object a purchase of house in a neighborhood of mainly another race openly. ‘Driving while black’ is mainly a complaint from the black people but not everyone agrees with this prospective. For example, I recently watched a documentary where a policeman was interviewed. He said they profile people based on statistics and their records show 77% of the criminal cases in this area were committed by young black males. Therefore, they profile black young men frequently. At least, there is no one in America who is in jail for expressing his or her opinion. There are plenty of TV programs that mock the president. Can you say anything bad about Xi Jingping in China? I can give you many names who said bad things about Xi and they are all in jail fulfilling prison sentences.

@@Carol-vk7wg You need to look carefully where you get your information. You seem to know certain things well, but your ideas about the US fight for democracy and freedom is so so out of point. The current US government does not represent the average American. The US is no longer democratic, but rather kleptocratic.

Literally Russia is guilty of numerous war crimes, rape, torture, targeting of civilian infrastructure. Are you tuned into a different war? Do you not listen to what Russian state media says about the Ukrainians.. from the very beginning? They don't have a right to exist, use nukes on them, calling for more attacks. You are right, the average Ukrainian and Russian considered themselves closely related until Putin decided to attack them with military force, forever dividing the two. Let's not forget Russia attacked Ukraine.. end of story. One aggressor, Ukraine had done nothing to Russia besides seek closer ties with the West opposed to Russia. This does not figure into Putins plan.

@Jason Wagers lol, have you witness what you are accusing Russian Soldiers of? You don't know may be but for Russians the dignity is something we inherit in our blood. So if you are not there, please take your words back. Otherwise the Universe will make you experience in what you are accusing other of!

A lot of the times he's just saying what they want to hear so he doesn't cause tensions in this indoctrinated crowd. They are high on MSM Kool-aid.

@@annamudrova1111 War is not dignified

@Landon Tesar so why did you keep your moth shut when the ukraininan government have been killing Russian people in Donbass since 2014? 🤔 we are finishing wars, not beginning. You didn't learn history well

Not when you interfere in a civil war,arm one side and bully the other side. That’s basically a declaration of war. Imagine if hawai separated and the Chinese armed them and ran their navy off the coast of California

@@jimgaston9863 I was thinking more of Cuba, but I don't understand what it means. Is it brinksmanship, or posturing, or ? How about the response to Pelosi's visit?

@@landontesar3070 it is brinkmanship,think of what happened with the Cuban missile crises,Americans were prepared for nuclear war because Russia dared to put missile systems on americas borders. For some reason America thinks they can do it to other nations though. It is America on China and Russia’s border causing strife not the other way around,America is provoking war not peace.As for Pelosi’s visit that would be like Putin landing in hawai and providing comfort and support to “REBELS” as in my previous example. This would not go over well in Washington.

@@jimgaston9863 Believe it or not without U.S illegally involvement between the CCP and the ROC (the original founders of both modern China and modern Taiwan from 1911 to 1972) there wouldn't be a country called CCP as we know it's since 1972.

@@oneviwatara9384 without Kissinger opening up americas market to the ccp there still might be a Soviet Union?

If you want to know how Chinese think, watch some Chinese television.

It will be more interesting if you can learn the Chinese histories from the time of Confucius..

Is not difficult to understand the Chinese. All you westerner need to do is to empty your cup first.

Both China and the west are doing the same thing by doing the opposite of what they're saying publicly 🤣😅

To understand how Chinese think, one has to learn the Chinese culture, philosophy, way-of-life and interact with Chinese people! Prof John Mearsheimer shows his ignorance on China by viewing China through Western glasses! His views on China is no different from typical ignorant redneck neo-cons from Mid-West USA, who are now crowding the White House and pushing Senile Biden to declare war on China! And that is dangerous! But Prof Mearsheimer's views on Europe and America are spot-on!

I agree that world peace is possible. I don't know what you mean by "inevitable" but I see a lot of conflict and a great deal of suffering between now and that point where peace is inevitable.

No war but class war

​@@kevintewey1157 class has always been the only war. Hence,you'll never see Putin and Biden in a boxing ring.

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@@dancerinmaya6813 That just proves my point. Plurality as it relates to society and leadership, isn't a concept everyone can understand. It seems almost counter productive to accept several answers to the same question. How can a society function without single solutions to specific problems? Very well it turns out.

International institutions like the United Nations and International Law mostly appeal to clever but silly people.

I have no idea what you are even trying to say.

The West should understand that the rules imposed by the. are not Tobe accepted, only rules imposed by UN can only be accepted. The long arm judiciary can not be accepted by others countries but they too arrogant to impose on others.

It’s hard if not impossible to find a single country totally replacing China, no way. The best option would be using multiple locations instead of concentrating in a single country like China.

Simple products may be OK to suppliers in a smaller country, but not complicated products.

time for Africa

We're dumping the dollar 💱💱💱💱💱💱💱💱

@@Mike-us1wr What people are not realising or intentionally not seeing is China has spent the best part of 70 odd years speccing itself to manufacture the entire worlds goods! the reason its ports and warehouses and infrastructure is so big..... Chinas goal was to be number 1 at growing itself, that obviously meant doing the best and outbidding outworking the rest..... anybody who has seen the ports and docks of china knows that theyre like huuuge cities!!! you could get lost and end up living there!! For the West to now suddenly overnight flip 180 is hilarious.... Apple and everyone else has gotten used to a certain quality and quantity..... this would mean a massive from the ground shakeup of western manufacturing process and alignment of 10 different countries just to get the same product and service from china.... the last data that i watched comparing chinas production capacity to the rest of asia china owned the top 3 or 4 places..... the next was i think singapore or malaysia... to say suddenly have Apples products made in 5 or 10 different places all at varying qualities and delivered at varying times sounds like a nightmare people are seriously not realising and underestimating the size and scale and just the production of China..... China as the most populous as well as the most productive and well organised with clear aims and targets no dilly dallying

It's at the top, his resume/cv (shortened) is under the title.

That is a lie. I wish that was true but is it not.

And communism, and Russia helped China win the civil war to become communist. I don't know Russian/Chinese history at all but from what I know they seem to be natural allies especially with the West pushing them together.

'westerners' enjoyed invading countries, force-converting, killing for quite a while. But China is finally becoming stronger, so 'westerners' will soon be kicked out of Asia. China's friendship with Russia will expedite the process.

Not really. US lost their bet with 'escalate to deescalate' way back in Johnson's administration when McNamara was in charge. All the things American government do to escalate did not make North Vietnam accept stalemate. The only deescalation is US finally agreed to withdraw from South Vietnam.

To be honest at this point who givea feic what either America or England wants. Their time has come and gone. ..Sail on alone together without Europe. Goodbye 👋

@@MMariT and your attitude demonstrates how you build a very strong coalition.

That's the problem with the US intelligence. They are operating under the 1992 edition.

Interesting. So what is your view of the China Russia relationship?

Must be hard sitting in front of these indoctrinated and kool-aid intoxicated westerners. He asks about the moral side of Russia bombing Ukraine infrastructure but when U.S. did the exact same thing in the first days of invasion of Yugoslavia where were his morals? Loaded questions trying to acknowledge western propaganda are disgusting.

That is why he was invited to this gathering.

Maybe you should explain your view of China-Russians relation before accusing him to be arrogant

🤣🤣 you can tell he is that "fun grandpa"

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Ukraine has responsible leadership; So does Europe and to a great extent so does China. Russia does not - In fact Russia has almost never had anything that could be made to look like "responsible leadership."

American foreign policy is whatever the Israelis tell them to do. :)

@@joeschmoe21 then it is the "elephant in the room"! I believe even kissinger admitted that recently!