Choosing The Right Assault Pack

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Brass Facts

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Sustainment is the core fundamental backbone of civilian in field operations.
Today we look at sustainment packs: Assault Pack, 2 Day Assault Pack, 3 Day Assault Pack, Heavy Assault Pack, and the Ruck.
This is just a primer.
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@joshe9286
@joshe9286 8 місяців тому
Hop's grasp of biology is stunning
@crazykev5
@crazykev5 8 місяців тому
Pretty informative for a Lesbian.
@joemo1033
@joemo1033 8 місяців тому
And sexy
@GTFBITK
@GTFBITK 8 місяців тому
​@@crazykev5lol
@Meyer-gp7nq
@Meyer-gp7nq 8 місяців тому
🤨
@QUIROPTEROHOLLOW
@QUIROPTEROHOLLOW 8 місяців тому
"It's a frog, innit?"
@schizosaint777
@schizosaint777 8 місяців тому
My bank account can’t sustain the brassfacts channel
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 8 місяців тому
sustain these nuts... or something... I'm sorry. ligma
@jhutch1470
@jhutch1470 8 місяців тому
Yeah, he's kinda like a used car salesman isn't he? Just kidding Brass. I love your vids. I am even looking at the medium MOLLE 2 on the Venture site.
@brandonschwertley2723
@brandonschwertley2723 8 місяців тому
Whatever bag you go with, actually pack it, actually hike with it. You will be surprised at how much 30-40-50 pounds feels as you move and gain elevation. Not to mention how much extra stuff you can put in there for no other reason than "I had room to spare" or "I thought I might need it" Recently started backpacking again after nearly 10 years of not doing it. I realized I needed more room for water, and I could go with less food. Alot less food actually. I also needed a lighter and more modern sleeping bag. weight equals more burnt energy and water, it also leads to slower paces and increased fatigue. This is very much one of those things you learn by doing. So just do something. Also ALICE pack is still a really good choice for a smaller ruck or large assault pack.
@highdesertdrew1844
@highdesertdrew1844 8 місяців тому
The good idea fairy is your worst enemy when you are packing. I recently did a 4-day car camp. Of all the crap I took, the main thing I really needed was a rain jacket (it rained buckets), and I wish I brought my camp shower.
@TheMrhoneycutt
@TheMrhoneycutt 8 місяців тому
For sure. Over the years I've gotten down to about 25-35lbs for my backpacking/hiking stuff. An Assault pack with Ammo and such, I could see 60+lbs and you've gotta be able to go.
@typorad
@typorad 7 місяців тому
I've done 2 major backpacking trips. First, I hiked 24 miles in a fairly flat trail in Michigan with about 65lbs on my pack and it was incredibly brutal. I was reading online that people burn through 3000+ calories per day and I planned on hiking for a week but cut it short, so I brought way way way too much food. For the first 12 miles I had to stop almost every 3/4 mile to take a break. Eventually I setup camp and walked back with nothing but my hydration pack with 3L of water and managed a fast pace; I completed the 12 miles in about 4 hours with no breaks. My second trip, I went to the Appalachian mountains and hiked with about 56lbs on my back, again planning for a week but heavily cutting back on the calories I carried. I was completely alone on this trip and had serious anxiety. Some of the locals offered me meth and were very insistent on giving me a ride both of which I refused. I discovered the anxiety killed my appetite and I was eating less than 1500 calories per day. I ended up cutting that trip short after 23.6 miles, but I didn't drop the weight off anywhere. My biggest lesson is you can afford to "starve" to reduce your weight. I think next time I go backpacking I'm going to use my mountain bike and add cargo racks.
@highdesertdrew1844
@highdesertdrew1844 7 місяців тому
@@typorad If you look at a lot of through hikers, they're skinny AF because they don't really consume the kinda calories the average american does. At 56lbs, there's probably still a lot of weight you could shake out. Higher calorie foods, peanut butter, sausage, instant mashed potatoes, oatmeal. Go watch some of the thru-hiker food supply videos and you get an idea of what high calorie, low weight food looks like. Then again, maybe they are skinny because of the meth.
@TheReenactorsGuide
@TheReenactorsGuide 7 місяців тому
@@highdesertdrew1844having done various day hike and multi-day treks in the adirondack high peaks, I can on average cover 23 miles in 8-9 hours with a loaded pack. The golden rule is to not go over probably 35 pounds of DRY gear (not adding food or water) reliance on a sawyer filter along with a camelbak is usually the way to go water wise. However, my days on the trails i’ve burned upwards of 5000 cals for anywhere between 9-15 miles. With little to no calorie consumption between start and finish (on day rucks)
@D.M.Luiz.
@D.M.Luiz. 8 місяців тому
What you should really be considering is what loot will you drop when the figurative bad guy gets you? Being practical is the way to go, but the funniest option is to carry a single nonsensical thing. Woman's underwear, an internet router, a single shoe. That way they will have something to talk about when they loot your body.
@tackytrooper
@tackytrooper 8 місяців тому
2 seasons of Seinfeld recorded onto Betamax cassettes.
@D.M.Luiz.
@D.M.Luiz. 8 місяців тому
This man gets it
@orcabolgsweetie2430
@orcabolgsweetie2430 8 місяців тому
Keychain of fingers
@AmazingAce
@AmazingAce 7 місяців тому
A single unformatted floppy disk.
@L0wSkiller
@L0wSkiller 7 місяців тому
​@@AmazingAceyou have to make sure it has doctors-level handwriting in sharpie on it saying: "the CURE". If it leads them to their death you can pogchamp from your spectator POV
@Matt-xc6sp
@Matt-xc6sp 8 місяців тому
From a backpacking background the only difference between the gear you need for 3 days and staying in the woods indefinitely is food. The shelter, layers, and other necessary items are 35l of fixed cost. Everything else is just sustainment.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 8 місяців тому
yep. Sorta. there are some other aspects. Like recon gear, base camp gear etc. As trips go on, usually setting up nicer hides/OPs etc. are more prevalent and that gear weighs a lot
@Matt-xc6sp
@Matt-xc6sp 8 місяців тому
@@BrassFacts No doubt. I lived out your way in SLC during college and did a NOLS course in Wyoming for 40 days. Maybe do a video on tactical horse packing? That’s how we resupplied.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 8 місяців тому
@@Matt-xc6sp we never got horses. Though we did have resupply for one trip via mules. But we weren't involved. They showed up, dropped off the gear. That's it
@Two_Names
@Two_Names 8 місяців тому
I've recently picked up a Kuiu Divide 1500 as a way to leverage the same line of thought. Main commandment is for sleep system / shelter / first aid, etc, secondary compartment for quicker access and food, with the split space for stuff. From my conversations with Kuiu and my experience over two quicker 1hr test rucks, the bag really does wear shockingly well with up to 30lbs and the company folks said it can easy manage 40-45lbs.
@SophisticatedDogCat
@SophisticatedDogCat 6 місяців тому
I agree. I’ve thru-hiked trails with a 40L pack and didn’t need to resupply until five days later, and that was through sub-freezing conditions and hot weather (upper 80°Fs) in the same trip. Just needed to change food and obviously filter water.
@jimallen8238
@jimallen8238 2 місяці тому
Dude, your video format and narration style is iconic. Somehow, your running monologue combined with loosely synchronized video content really works.
@bass779
@bass779 8 місяців тому
Most Marines I know pronounce it "fill-bee"
@highdesertdrew1844
@highdesertdrew1844 8 місяців тому
I've been running a 35L dry bag, it's worked really well and kept my gear dry with this unusually wet year we've had in the southwest. Also it is great for my DayZ LARP.
@ragingelch5042
@ragingelch5042 8 місяців тому
what gun are you larping dayz with? Trumpet?
@highdesertdrew1844
@highdesertdrew1844 8 місяців тому
@@ragingelch5042 sawed off mosin with PSO
@buff34x
@buff34x 8 місяців тому
The FILBE has been my favorite pack system so far. I might be partial because that's what I am used to but I appreciated how tight the main pack stayed to my body because of how wide and short it was, allowing me to attach the assault pack on top of it instead of further away from my body like some other pack systems I've seen/tried. The FILBE assault pack really needs the kangaroo pouch on the top back molle section, and canteen pouches on the side to flourish in my opinion but that's also how we always needed it for our mission types. For a standard assault pack load out, ie what we always brought in it regardless of mission was: Poncho liner (woobie/jungle bad) and bivy sack, tarp, 2-3 skivvy rolls in water proof bags (undershirt, underwear, and a pair of socks rolled up tight), baby wipes, foot care items (mole skin, vaseline, powder, etc), one 3 liter camelbak bladder, 2 canteens, land nav gear (map markers, protractors, notebook), red lens head lamp, electrical or 100 mph tape, 1-2 MREs, spare batteries for NVGs and peq16s. Team leaders typically also carried a lensatic compass, the maps, spare signaling devices, and spare radio batteries. Point men/ nav men tended to buy wrist rockets out of pocket (Garmin wrist mounted gps) so they had spare batteries for that too. Automatic rifleman would keep 18-21 spare pmags in it. It was very common to bring a grid fleece (lightweight quarter zip) or silk layer frog top just incase a cold front came in depending on where we were. Who ever had the lightest bag would typically get assigned to carry spare snacks or mission specific gear so we could all move at a similar pace. When speed mattered like taking a building in MOUT the first team/buddy pair would run packless and take a foot hold in the building, then a following team/buddy pair would bring the packs back up to the lead group. Or more often for a large offensive, lead team/squad would drop packs in the first secure building and have only the camelbak, spare mags, and snacks in their cargo pockets until the end of day when they got swapped out to rest. I'm probably forgetting some things since it's been a while since I got out so may edit those in later.
@homerj109
@homerj109 8 місяців тому
You should try the USGI medium rucksack, it can float right between assault pack and ruck and you can scale it up with side pouches.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 8 місяців тому
yah, friend has one. It's neat for sure.very purpose built
@nathan-ls8yw
@nathan-ls8yw 8 місяців тому
@@BrassFactssecond that with the amap 3 from agilite gear
@EndoftheBlock7224
@EndoftheBlock7224 8 місяців тому
Difficult to find but it's pretty nice
@TALIZ0RAH
@TALIZ0RAH 8 місяців тому
In my Army experience, as a Scout, the issued assault pack was too small for optics, batteries and ammunition we had to carry on top of sustainment. The medium ruck was big enough that I could carry those and have that little bit extra room for cold or wet weather gear, sustainment or whatever else the mission dictated. It is a terrible ruck in my opinion if your only goal is speed and distance in a given amount of time. Very uncomfortable, but incredibly durable.
@woodsrunnersepa
@woodsrunnersepa 7 місяців тому
The medium molle 2 with the u shaped frame?
@possumpatrol45
@possumpatrol45 8 місяців тому
You need a pack that's big enough to carry Nova on your back like Luke carried Yoda on Dagobah.
@M4c223c
@M4c223c 8 місяців тому
Winning comment lol
@doublepiedavid8908
@doublepiedavid8908 8 місяців тому
Personally I have a FILBE, and it’s a great rucksack, especially for the money, but it goes wide instead of tall, and I’m actually thinner than the frame, so it occasionally snags on brush. At the same time, it’s easier to shoot with because of its chode-like qualities and it’s also easier for me to run and climb in then similar taller bags
@jurpo6
@jurpo6 8 місяців тому
Bro check it out. Filbe bag on a metal alice frame. Fits like a glove and eliminates the shitty filbe frame. Very easy to find aftermarket straps.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan 8 місяців тому
Glad I got mine, ArmyNavyOutdoors had a sale on them for $50 a couple months back. Awesome piece of gear.
@doublepiedavid8908
@doublepiedavid8908 8 місяців тому
@@ExtremelyAverageMan damn, I got mine for $100 and I still had to sew a patch on the bottom
@DZ4295DBW
@DZ4295DBW 8 місяців тому
Be aggressive with the compression straps. But you can get an Alice frame and toss the FILBE bag on it. However you will need to use really strong zip ties in certain spots. Also if you don't wanna replace the frame, Platatac makes 1606/Alice compatible pads that are very well priced.
@doublepiedavid8908
@doublepiedavid8908 8 місяців тому
@@DZ4295DBW I actually like how the Filbe frame feels, and it actually fits over my flatpack that I primarily use as a hydration pack. My only issue is it’s wide enough to bump into things
@M4c223c
@M4c223c 8 місяців тому
You’d be surprised how many caprisuns fit in a camelback 3L reservoir lol
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 8 місяців тому
oh shit. it's time for caprisun gaming
@RhulkActual
@RhulkActual 8 місяців тому
Speaking of sleep systems in sustainment packs, I’d like to hear you talk more about your philosophy when it comes to sleep systems/shelter in a small team environment
@aaronsarquist3382
@aaronsarquist3382 8 місяців тому
Same! Need help here
@misfitlife3091
@misfitlife3091 7 місяців тому
Think basics ur not camping so unless needed get rid of the tent look up prepared airman for a better understanding on sleep systems and weight vs needs
@stillpist
@stillpist 4 місяці тому
I have a 1 man snugpak ionosphere tent. It's small, low profile, olive drab and is pretty light weight all things considered. I researched the hell out of tents and it seemed to the the best option by far. You could get away with a tarp and some cord if you want to cut down on bulk and weight since you really need a sleeping pad and bag above all. I went with a US army issue thermarest pad and a snugpak 23 degree bag and a separate fleece liner that I can use by itself for warmer conditions. Along with cooking supplies, ammo, freezedried food ect everything fits in my 60l pack except for tent and pad which i strap to the bottom of my pack. I recommend a non tactical looking hiking pack in muted/drab colors so that you don't stick out like a sore thumb and are also a lot more comfortable on long distance journeys as opposed to like a 5.11 pack or whatever.
@misfitlife3091
@misfitlife3091 4 місяці тому
@@stillpist I was looking at that one myself is it roomier than it looks and what about temp ratings and whats your thoughts on bags any recommendations in the 40-60 range
@stillpist
@stillpist 4 місяці тому
@misfitlife3091 I'll recommend the snugpak softie elite 1 which I think is rated at 40 degrees and above. The one I have is the elite 3 in coyote brown and it's really comfy and warm. Compression sack it comes in is too notch too. It's my first quality bag so I can't comment on how much better it is compared to other bags in that price range but I know that military guys on deployment use their tents and bags quite often. Material is definitely tougher than standard bags you find out there too.
@waterdragon95
@waterdragon95 8 місяців тому
For those looking for something similar to the Amp 24, the LBX titan lite is very similar. It doesn't have the edc type pockets/compartments/dividers. It's very barebones but allows ALOT of modularity. Loving mine so far!
@ChadCooper03
@ChadCooper03 8 місяців тому
I recently got the Mystery Ranch Blitz 30. I think it makes a lot of sense for civilians in a smaller rucking or tactical assault style pack. It has an "A, B, C" outer pocket organization design with a main inner compartment. In my eyes, it's a modernized 2 day assault that has more organization, without having ALLL the organization that becomes too much, if that makes sense. Worth checking out. They have a 35 version too.
@SophisticatedDogCat
@SophisticatedDogCat 6 місяців тому
Agree completely. Too much organization = bad.
@chris.t1629
@chris.t1629 8 місяців тому
Our group landed on the ILBE pack system fielded during 2004-2011. The main ruck is 75L and the added 24 hour pack (24L) integrates into it well. It’s hard to pass on a pack system designed by Arcteryx and often affordable at around $100-$150 for the full system. My main EDC pack is a 40L REI Ruckpack and that works wonderfully in that 3-4 day range with the advantage of being urban friendly
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 8 місяців тому
I own a ILBE, those things are (were) a fucking steel. Lightly used on amazon, 100bucks. Great pack, though massively heavily.
@chris.t1629
@chris.t1629 8 місяців тому
Yes offerup still has the occasional gem around that price (especially if you’re near a USMC base). You touched on it but I love the idea of a larger system with an smaller integrated pack you can downsize to
@lucasbfowler
@lucasbfowler 7 місяців тому
@@BrassFacts only heavy if you lack the will to cut what needs cut. Mine weighs 4lbs empty.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 7 місяців тому
@@lucasbfowler Im talking about the empty weight of the bag.
@lucasbfowler
@lucasbfowler 7 місяців тому
@@BrassFacts I am too. Its about 9lbs empty as issued, but if you cut all the useless junk off that the USMC required you can get it down to a quite respectable empty weight. You just need the courage.
@ketononeill8898
@ketononeill8898 8 місяців тому
In this Episode, Bagfacts indeed secures the bag.
@sudo_actual
@sudo_actual 8 місяців тому
I'd like to hear more of Hop's thoughts on bugs.
@Horseysauce
@Horseysauce 8 місяців тому
One surplus accessory that ive found useful for getting a sleep system onto a pack without taking up the entire pack is the MOLLE II waist pack. It'll clip into any bag with molle rows on the bottom of it. It is big enough to store a temperate climate sleeping bag and pad easily without taking any space whatsoever from the main compartment. Its awesome for the bulky but not heavy things you often need to bring along
@DZ4295DBW
@DZ4295DBW 8 місяців тому
Or go towards a lightweight bag like a Kelty. You don't need the entire MSS for everything lol
@TheMrhoneycutt
@TheMrhoneycutt 8 місяців тому
Surplus FTW. I use my waist pack for my Ranger Roll. Awesome little piece of kit.
@DZ4295DBW
@DZ4295DBW 8 місяців тому
@@TheMrhoneycutt waist pack? Do you mean a butt pack? Lol
@stephenurban9880
@stephenurban9880 7 місяців тому
@@DZ4295DBW It's not the old butt pack. Iirc the molle waist pack was designed to carry a MOPP suit.
@welderdude1
@welderdude1 7 місяців тому
I've been running a 1 day Karrymore pack that has been quite good. I found out about the brand while looking to replace my previous Vaude pack. YKK zippers and real MOLE with lots of options. I've been happy with the strap system. I've hiked with it over 12,000' and didn't regret the setup.
@compulsivegunbuyer
@compulsivegunbuyer 8 місяців тому
Yes! a video to validate my eberlestock purchase.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 8 місяців тому
I actually had a eberlestock little big top (or whatever it was called) and a ton of footage. But I'm completely potato, and forgot about it for this video. I hated it at the time because i wanted a ruck. But now that I'm all in on that large assaut pack, I kinda miss it.
@philliplopez1501
@philliplopez1501 8 місяців тому
+1 for the large ALICE. These things are insanely durable. With some modification, extra pouches, replacement hip pad, etc. They quickly become the ultimate pack. Before picking a civillian style high backpack...put your helmet on...now go prone. Before picking the Molle madness try putting one together. Then go ahead and buy a replacement frame now...the one you have is about to break. Others i have tried relied on zippers that ultimately blow out. Some rattle. Some have straps that flail all about and get caught on everything. Some are genuinely good bags, but, are simply too small as you realize you are going to be out in the bush longer than you realized. Lastly come the 3 day assualt bags. Can't say enough good about them. But they are best utilized as emergency-ditch bags. Meaning one for medical, comms, extra ammo/smoke,etc. Best use case is in-conjunction with vehicles and day missions. All that said, over 20 years the best pack i ever had was my ALICE. Best of luck, Phil
@snakebite210
@snakebite210 8 місяців тому
Brassfacts Friday 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@Caligari87
@Caligari87 8 місяців тому
Love that you called out the knockoff flatpack; mines the "Krydex" brand. I went through this cycle of [backpack > duffel bag > sling bag > repeat] for EDC looking for the one that did right by me. Found the flatpack last year and I love it so much. I added some shotgun sling pads to the shoulder straps and it improved the comfort a lot.
@semperanticusphotography3749
@semperanticusphotography3749 8 місяців тому
Make fun as needed... but I'm a fan of the 5.11 packs I used them in Iraq and AFG and for fun stuff back home. The Rush 24 is a nice size for light 2-3 day stuff, the Rush 72 was good for 5-7 days in most regards. I add a MOAB that can clip onto those if i need some expansion with something detachable. They aren't perfect, other packs have better features, but I've got the stuff, I know the durability and how to maximize the space and attachment points and I'm too cheap to replace them.
@lazylobster31
@lazylobster31 8 місяців тому
If you need a backer for the Camelbak pack, I'd recommend the Bundeswehr folding sleeping mat. I have one in most of my packs and it works wonders as a backer and can be somewhat useful as an additional protective ground layer for your sleep system. However it's far from comfortable on it's own.
@protectpersevere2030
@protectpersevere2030 8 місяців тому
I have an AWS version of eagle yote and it’s awesome for short duration shenanigans especially in hot weather with the ability stow your sweat helmet. Also have both medium and large alice. I love the ability to cinch packs down and also strap unconventional items to the pack. The spur similar to the medium alice are super versatile like you said as they can shrink to almost assault pack size but can stretch to colder months are bigger shenanigans
@gulasd3025
@gulasd3025 7 місяців тому
Great video as always. I really enjoy your breakdown and analysis. I've been running my gear for a while but this gives me a better understanding and ideas on how to use it better.
@CutlassOutdoors
@CutlassOutdoors 8 місяців тому
I can't believe those girls just walked by and didn't say anything about that dope Black Beard flag patch. What do women even want?
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 8 місяців тому
:shrug: Bitches, am i rite?
@spacelord7795
@spacelord7795 7 місяців тому
I have the LBT 2657 ruck for winter gear. Basically a modern large Alice pack. I absolutely love it and will be taking it to deer camp this year. It gets crazy cold at our camp sometimes. -10F before windchill is not unheard of. So a ruck allows me to carry in the extra stuff I may need.
@nerdyhustle
@nerdyhustle 8 місяців тому
Awesome breakdown! Love the insight, and you had me chuckling. Subscribed!
@mikewazofski6155
@mikewazofski6155 8 місяців тому
Hey man. Really enjoying your content. Would love to see more on the PDW concept. Specifically more on the USW-G and/or/vs Recover Tactical 20/20 chassis. Those seem to be the two dominant choices at this time.
@andrewbain5510
@andrewbain5510 8 місяців тому
I use a Mystery Ranch SATL for my LAP/3DAP and the AWS Assault Pack for whatever assault packs are for.
@misterio10gre
@misterio10gre 8 місяців тому
to be fair in a SHTF situation I think I'll be too risky to commit going away from your main safehouse for longer than a night. I understand recon of the area is important, but most groups wouldn't have the man power to sustainably do so for long periods of time
@kerbalairforce8802
@kerbalairforce8802 8 місяців тому
Imagine sending your guarddog scout sniper guy to the edge of your territory to hide in a spider hole and watch an intersection for vehicles. Better to do that job on a 2 or 3 day rotation instead of hiking a well worn daily trail to it.
@jamesharding3459
@jamesharding3459 8 місяців тому
​@@kerbalairforce8802 I don't think that's realistic in the vast majority of cases, in any urban or semi-urban area, you're in full of the world as soon as you step outside your front door. I think it’s more likely to only move out for very specific tasks that needed to happen - like going out to help a neighbor, resupply water/food, or seek medical attention. Of course, in a “world is ending” SHTF situation, that all goes out the window. But that’s a bit beyond what I consider reasonable to expect.
@timunderbakke8756
@timunderbakke8756 8 місяців тому
@@jamesharding3459I mean, if you’re in an urban environment then a lot of this goes out the window. You’re not going to be backpacking and carrying long guns out on patrol etc. This is more for those who either already got out of the city or who will do so shortly after the “event” whatever it is
@jamesharding3459
@jamesharding3459 8 місяців тому
@@timunderbakke8756 Maybe. I can think of several situations where I might want to be out and about (granted, mostly at night) in an urban/suburban environment where this would be valid - I just wouldn’t be sitting static. But again, caveat: I don’t assume an end of the world situation. My expectations are oriented towards something like Katrina or a very severe earthquake, since that’s what I consider to be the worst case scenario that’s actually realistic.
@MochiMoose
@MochiMoose 7 місяців тому
In terms of SHTF, he basically covered the use for each and what you’ll need, you just have to really think about the scenario, the mission, the environment, and the personnel you have with you. Some places are super hot and dry, so you need a ton of water, therefore a larger pack just to go the same distance as somewhere else that has moderate temperatures and access to lots of water, over the same distance. Some places have big elevation changes, and plenty of water, but you’re going to move a lot slower to go the same distance as someone who lives somewhere else that’s relatively flat. Account for your conditions, account for how far you need to go, how fast you can feasibly travel in those conditions with the weight you’ll be carrying to necessarily make it there, or make it there AND back if you’re doing a resupply. Also account for how much room in your pack you need and the extra weight you’ll be carrying back if it is a resupply. I would strongly suggest, and I need to do this myself, setting up caches along primary, backup and contingency routes to either your bugout location, or to where you expect you will be able to resupply, if getting there takes multiple days. That way, you can travel extra light heading there, resupply, and only use your cache’s in between to sustain. How far you’re going, the distance between cache’s and how much weight you plan to carry back will dictate how much you need to stash at each cache. Maybe you need it to get there AND to get back. Maybe you only need it to get back. Maybe you are going somewhere for some other purpose and plan to resupply your caches on the way back… etc etc. Doesn’t hurt to have all of them and just load them out or switch gear between them (duplicates and triplicates of everything can get expensive), as needed for all the conditions you’re considering. I find a scalable 30-40 liter pack is the best all around though. I use a Savotta Jaakari M and scale up as needed but the Mystery Ranch 3DAP, Eberlestock G2 Gunslinger and Lo Drag II are also some good ones.
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 8 місяців тому
i also have a bag problem, thank you for your emotional support.
@brookesprecision6272
@brookesprecision6272 8 місяців тому
I went through a lot of packs and a couple years ago I settled on the Agilite AMAP II, I think it’s the best and now they have a version III that I would love to try,
@Apeman_Actual
@Apeman_Actual 7 місяців тому
Love your videos and how you tackle the philosophies behind different ideas and ways of doing things. You open up folks minds to ways of thinking they probably hadn’t considered unless they’d served. TL;DR You’re doing good shit man, keep it up!
@Detteyo
@Detteyo 8 місяців тому
These videos are like the subway surfer family guy shorts to me. Roblox at 10 fps on my laptop and Hops rant/prep vids.
@Frankthetank-et7wo
@Frankthetank-et7wo 8 місяців тому
Got an old tri color woodie 3 DAP. Works great and sits on the back just right when paired with my old harness and web belt kit.
@juliomaldonado4028
@juliomaldonado4028 8 місяців тому
I have the trim zip 2dap. The zipper design. Does feel gimmicky, but out of all my bags. It carries heavy loads the best. It's very comfortable even without a hip belt.
@M.H.D.actual
@M.H.D.actual 8 місяців тому
The LAP/ medium ruck/ mountain ruck is the GOAT for most civilian applications, and I found that my eberlestock fac track is way more comfortable with body armor as well. Winter time though, I definitely have to transition to a large ruck with an assault pack stashed inside. Currently running a CFP90 with an aftermarket external frame rigged up from a hunting pack. The Molle II rucksack we were issued gets the job done but they aren't the greatest thing out there. The UCP versions can be color dyed to make them usable though, very cheap.
@LowQuatsSquats7529
@LowQuatsSquats7529 8 місяців тому
Sounds like the Austrian KAZ03 Alpine pack fits all of the requirements for all of the styles of packs as it's able to remove sections of the pack to reduce it's overall size or expand up to accommodate more with the ability to add expander pouches to the outside of the pack. all while having an internal frame system.
@timunderbakke8756
@timunderbakke8756 8 місяців тому
I’ve got one massive ruck type so far. I was a moron in my early days wanting all the capability but now I think I need a 3DAP to cover my bases. No mountains here, but winter sucks bad. Definitely going to visit venture surplus next payday
@ThePaintballer1994
@ThePaintballer1994 7 місяців тому
Me being a Marine I've got a special place in my heart for the FILBE assault bag. The main pack, ehhhhhhh it gets the job done. I have the bag itself without the frame and I'm planning on getting an external one to add to it because I've heard good things about that concept. Good video. Keep 'em coming.
@BlackBladeGroM
@BlackBladeGroM 7 місяців тому
I wish you made this video a year ago. Over a year of monthly training outings I went through a bunch of wildlly different LBE configs. Started with a 100L patrol ruck that had me bowing down to every overhanging branch and fiddling with straps to keep all my stuff from bouncing around the half-empty internal volume. Then tried to pad out my 2DAP (5.11 All Hazards Prime) with two 5L PALS-attached side pouches and cram all my stuff into half-opening compartments and org pockets. That also sucked. Eventually landed on the LAP concept, same as you. Got myself a W I D E assault pack in the ~50L range, with a huge main compartment, two big pockets large enough for downrange utilities and extended medkit respectively and four 2L side pockets for camping stuff like boiler stove or tarp+lines. The thing is exactly as wide as my shoulders when fully loaded and the main compartment comfortably fits a 5L water bottle laying sideways, amongst other things. We'll see if it will carry me through the winter, but the pack is stable and comfortable enough that I can do some CQB with it in summer.
@DZ4295DBW
@DZ4295DBW 8 місяців тому
If you've got a crye carrier, Mayflower AP or AVS1000 are the goat. If you want to carry Belted ammo, 40mm and maybe some water/food. TradesMan is solid for that. Plus you can have quivers for a Hooly, strip charges and a little scabbard to use with the compression straps for a LAW/RPG-22 AT/AP weapon.
@dericmattheis7649
@dericmattheis7649 8 місяців тому
Eberlestock makes great modular bags that can be added to or taken away from, depending on your purpose....I Love them.
@Woodland_Warrior
@Woodland_Warrior 7 місяців тому
Currently planning for a 3 day 2 night FTX with about 10-12 dudes in the MI upper peninsula in late December, working with a Mystery Ranch Komodo Dragon. Very tight fit but making it work, could definitely be better off with something a bit bigger lol. Good video as always.
@Ayattar55
@Ayattar55 8 місяців тому
I manage with three 75l, 25l and 10l. 75l, compressed to 50-60l for three days or more in warm season... Or with fully extended chimney for camping capabilities in winter/low temp. So it fits inflatable mat, winter sleeping bag, extra fleece etc. Equipment that guarantees comfort in freezing temperatures alone fills half the backpack. 25l for 24/48h, with tarp, hammock and warm season sleeping bag. If I need a bit more space, I use straps to attach externally + I can mount side pouches (with water, so they empty first) and if it's enough, just compress it. 10l just for water, food, spare socks and rain protection. And it usually goes inside the 75 big guy if I'm camping and want to hike out. Helmet always in external helmet holder This matches pretty well :)
@jacobhesington6725
@jacobhesington6725 8 місяців тому
Sorting gear in to categories with acronyms tickles my brain
@BringerOfD
@BringerOfD 7 місяців тому
Mystery Ranch Crew Cab. Infinitely scalable. Can be compressed down to basically a day bag, or open it up and shove dry bags into it. More of a cross between a ruck and a pack board in concept. Sadly I think it's also discontinued.
@Emporter_Ixporter
@Emporter_Ixporter 8 місяців тому
You ever mess around with Hill People Gear packs? Even though they’re more for backcountry hiking/hunting, I like to use mine in the context of a 3 day pack.
@claypeterson8299
@claypeterson8299 8 місяців тому
I appreciate that Brass facts pays some respect to Nutn, he’s the OG
@raptordc5
@raptordc5 8 місяців тому
All great info! I'm in love with any and all Hillpeoplegear packs! Most comfortable packs on the market.
@poolee77
@poolee77 8 місяців тому
I have in ascending order of size: camlebak mule, m81 Molle 2 patrol pack(patrol not assault), Agilite AMAP 3, medium Alice with frame and molle sleep system pouch.
@ericferguson9989
@ericferguson9989 8 місяців тому
My Condor backpack is the Assault Bag I have at home. I've used it for years
@gunterstraus606
@gunterstraus606 7 місяців тому
I really like the look of the Direct Action Dragon Egg, and I think it'd pair well with my belt kit with its size having it wear over the butt pack. My only question though, is how would you fit a helmet to it?
@johnritchie1846
@johnritchie1846 7 місяців тому
Ive had a couple bags that had the "beach ball" problem. ive found a hard plastic mudflap from a heavy truck works great. cut to size for the bag and if worried about weight use a 2" hole saw to remove materiall without losing rigidity.
@willmurphy-qj9vd
@willmurphy-qj9vd 8 місяців тому
If you like the assault + size bag I highly recommend the mystery ranch SATLs you can find them for a very reasonable price on the surplus market. I would even be down to send you mine for a review.
@thedownwardmachine
@thedownwardmachine 8 місяців тому
My urban loadout is an original 5.11 Covrt18, low-profile but very versatile. Got a large IIIa tombstone at 1.5 lb, good for running from robbers but not mass shooters, might upgrade, but the weight and coverage is hard to beat. Have a bunch of IFAK items plus multitool, headlamp, and so on. If you carry a firearm but not an IFAK, you aren't worried about safety, you crave exerting power. Also electrolytes (what plants crave) and 600 calories of simple food. Plus lots of odds and ends (gloves, Buff, earplugs, pens, Chapstick, medicines, and on and on). All this coming in under 10 lbs, and it goes with me everywhere and no one knows what it is, it's my portable problem solver. Despite all the crap, it still has tons of room but stays compact the rest of the time.
@toddinfl
@toddinfl 8 місяців тому
In a hot environment the large Alice pack is perfect because of the distance between the actual pack and your back which has air flow so it doesn't get sweaty. 62 liters isn't that big.
@misfitlife3091
@misfitlife3091 8 місяців тому
I use a dg3 slick and pack in my trex arms eagle assault pack and just transfer items I need for said assault or patrol that way it’s an all in one kit I’m looking into the expanding lid for the dg3 right now to expand it out for up to a week
@bodie463
@bodie463 8 місяців тому
Love your videos just for the scenery. Oh, and you are 100% responsible for the Mystery Ranch 32L I now own 😁
@jhutch1470
@jhutch1470 8 місяців тому
I'm looking at the medium MOLLE 2 ruck sack. I might not have to fill it up, then I can compress it down a bit. I like because it is supposed to fit over a plate carrier. I can also MOLLE my E-tool, sheers, and folding saw to the outside. Oh, I can also use my helmet carrying thing attached to the outside. Shit, now I'm carrying too much.
@darthtater110
@darthtater110 8 місяців тому
My MR Komodo Dragon has done me well for a few years now, and their warranty/customer service is good enough for me to not worry about training with it. It's kind of in between the 3DAP and LAPs in terms of capability, and at about the same weight of a 3DAP. I can carry about 45-50 pounds comfortably inside it as long as I didn't just randomly throw stuff in, and actually pay attention to how the weight is positioned within it. I kinda wish they'd bring back the padded waist belts though. The new ones without them are fine, but the old ones felt a lot more secure and comfortable.
@Hideout2468
@Hideout2468 7 місяців тому
Ever making a video breaking down your hybrid chest rig setup, or setups you've done in the past?
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 7 місяців тому
the video is done, it will release soonish
@daynuhbraps
@daynuhbraps 6 місяців тому
Always strapped the day pack to the top of a ruck. Ruck carries the camp, day pack for recon. Works pretty well with a chest rig. Plate carrier can go in the ruck if you have one 🤙
@elterga6224
@elterga6224 8 місяців тому
Would love to see a video on camo in relation to clothing and kit
@DTC_JESTER
@DTC_JESTER 8 місяців тому
I have a DG3, i like it but ive found its actually a little too big for my purposes. Went back to my medium Alice pack but with the crossfire frame, will be trying that out at my next One Shepherd semester in a few weeks.
@TALIZ0RAH
@TALIZ0RAH 8 місяців тому
The dg3 frame is the best ruck I have ever had. Wish I got the normal instead of the artic version. I wish it MOLLE on the sides again.
@mikekraut7643
@mikekraut7643 8 місяців тому
You can make that flat pack easy to take off with some buckles, straps, and a bit of ingenuity
@vhdfujfdjfdkjfdk
@vhdfujfdjfdkjfdk 8 місяців тому
I needed this
@Balltilifall
@Balltilifall 8 місяців тому
Ngl the music makes the videos like 10x better but I still love em regardless !!!
@schubur
@schubur 7 місяців тому
I really want to see a sleep system video, sleeping bag, tent, hammock, tarp, ect for SHTF. It would be a fun video to watch.
@A8vscRrabbit
@A8vscRrabbit 8 місяців тому
Great video. Thought provoking. I prefer a assault bag for my uses and physical build (5'7"/150lbs). I prefer speed over armor and sustainability.
@Super-Kuper
@Super-Kuper 8 місяців тому
Can we pretend it’s ten years ago and get a Brass Facts Bug Out Back/Get Home Bag/ Bag that lives in your car video? With all the contents?
@wampyr88
@wampyr88 5 місяців тому
Tfw I went on a 12 mile hike with my crye jpc, ronin belt and a rush 72 mostly at max load. I'm 5'6 and 135 lbs...
@Melanie-Shea
@Melanie-Shea 7 місяців тому
Full winter kit for two people can be split between two people caring 20 L bags each, at 15 pounds each, that includes fuel and food and the pack itself. One person takes the tent. The other person takes the stove. Both people have sleeping bags and pads. Plus all personal clothing and items. I wouldn’t want to go above that as the baseline except for adding more food and fuel. Should leave you a nice margin for your other stuff considering I doubt people are running 20 L packs. Going above 30 to 35 pounds will put a hit on your mobility though. I’ve carried 125 pound packs for days on end in the rain and snow, sure you can move decently fast with a 60 pound pack, but you can truly be athletic in your movement beneath 30 lbs, ideally 25 lbs.
@PreppedScots
@PreppedScots 8 місяців тому
If you’re able to but I doubt will, take a wee look at the PRI 45ltr day/radio pack, single compartment with a 2 pockets in the lid and pockets on the sides, however the pack was designed to accept PLCE kit so it can take rocket pouches, medical bags, etc etc, because it’s PLCE it can also be zipped together greatly reducing the size of the bag The civilian version is the karrimor SF predator patrol 45, practically the same bag but comes with a wee waist belt also Kombat U.K. make a knockoff of the bag which also accepts PLCE but I would avoid that one tbh
@boejiden1942
@boejiden1942 7 місяців тому
I opted for a big boi 60L that can be scaled from 50-70L (give or take) cause odds are I'm with my family or going on a long ruck.
@Glonk_Respecter
@Glonk_Respecter 8 місяців тому
Classic Brass Facts. Let’s go!
@makapaka7159
@makapaka7159 6 місяців тому
Sleeping systems in the future? I love to hear your opinion about tents, bivys etc. Last month, I bought surplus Dutch Army Carhintia bivy, and I highly recommend it for stealth camping. You're making great videos. I can't wait for more. Greetings from Poland.
@drewrajan801
@drewrajan801 7 місяців тому
Okay well what are you packing your pack? Essentials, optional, unnecessary equipment, etc. If you already have a video on the stuff my bad, new to the channel. Awesome work!
@scottwermuth9201
@scottwermuth9201 8 місяців тому
Bottles are way easier to use when you have to source your water resupply from the wild, as opposed to a tap (water filters, boiling, etc.) That, and they're cheaper and tougher than bags.
@Goldenwithaleash
@Goldenwithaleash 8 місяців тому
I’m just here to support Nova. That said, I’m a big fan of Mystery Ranch packs.
@whatroad5652
@whatroad5652 2 місяці тому
i spent the money on a Eberlestock G4 operator bag. its massive but i love it. i like got it down to 40 pounds with full gear. i working on a tool kit for it so i can fix our stuff in the field and so forth.
@charlesl5226
@charlesl5226 8 місяців тому
I’ve got an old USMC “ass” pack but the lack of pockets make it only a good bag for rock climbing. I’ve got a cheaper Ross 12/24hr day style bag that fits good on my “overt” set up. But I want the MR 3day and an Alice to finish out my “needs”.
@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193
@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193 7 місяців тому
I think the ALICE pack- Medium comes pretty close to filling the Assault pack/Rucksack divide.
@y.e.kahunakalash
@y.e.kahunakalash 8 місяців тому
Venture Surplus is an awesome shop. (Based Venture Surplus enjoyer.)
@pjbiggleswerth8903
@pjbiggleswerth8903 8 місяців тому
This instantly made me.feel better abt the 4 that I have 😂😅
@benthephilosopher
@benthephilosopher 7 місяців тому
Hey @BrassFacts Have you ever tried the Hill People Gear packs? I've been thinking about getting a Ute, and though it expands to be like 60 liters, I think it would basically be a LAP.
@VoodooBrown
@VoodooBrown 8 місяців тому
Let’s not overlook the usgi standard issue small assault pack and the usgi medium ruck, both are excellent and battle proven.
@raullemurs
@raullemurs 8 місяців тому
I hated my assault pack
@VoodooBrown
@VoodooBrown 8 місяців тому
I can only speak on the current generation ocp pack with molle, I loved it
@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray
@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray 8 місяців тому
When we were first issued MOLLE rucks in 2005, we had serious doubts about them, since you absolutely *_NEEDED_* the manual to put it together as it was counter-intuitive compared to the ALICE pack There was a ruckmarch every Wednesday and each Wednesday at a minimum one MOLLE frame broke Only, instead of taking this as field data, they just blamed Soldiers for "not taking care of their equipment" . . . a lot of rucks broke in combat too and there were very few replacements Years later, when I transferred to the National Guard, they were out of MOLLE rucks, so I snatched up an ALICE. Some time later, the Specialist from Supply found me and asked, "Hey Sarn't, we got more MOLLE rucks, you wanna finally trade your ALICE in?" Thank you Specialist, but "Negative, Ghost Rider, the pattern is full."
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 8 місяців тому
interesting, thanks for the insight.
@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray
@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray 8 місяців тому
@@BrassFacts Using *_PLASTIC_* for the most critical, load-bearing part of a Rube Goldberg rucksack - the frame - is a real Rocket Surgeon and Brain Scientist moment In addition, Airborne flat-out said "No!", as the MOLLE ruck was not Jump-Worthy For me, "Not Jump-Worthy" means "Not Mission Capable"
@BrassowGaming
@BrassowGaming 8 місяців тому
You need to get Nova a vest to make her carry her own rations & ammo.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 8 місяців тому
negative. I carry a heavier pack, so she doesn't have too. Seriously though. She's old. She doesn't need anymore weight on her joints than is necessary
@arandomdude17
@arandomdude17 8 місяців тому
@@BrassFactstop tier dog dad
@diegoflores3408
@diegoflores3408 8 місяців тому
Im a big fan of the old school alice pack since theyre cheap($75), highly customizable especially if your capable of sewing, stiffer frame then the polymer dogshit the military uses now where you need to repair it with sticks and ducktape, and ir already had mag pouches and three small pouches on the outside.
@jurpo6
@jurpo6 8 місяців тому
Buy a FILBE bag without the frame for cheap and put it on your alice frame.
@Bender_B._Rodriguez
@Bender_B._Rodriguez 8 місяців тому
Make it still with a pistol rated panel.
@diegoflores3408
@diegoflores3408 8 місяців тому
@@kevinhart46 look if 7lbs is the difference between having a piece of polymer that will breaks from just normal use so be it. It is a LRP pack not some just run of the mill 48 ass pack. Then heaven forbid you stack it with more then 60lbs which is pretty easy with water because remember a gallon is 8lbs and your going to want to carry a decent amount of it, not to mention ammo in loaded magazines. Ounces = LBs, LBs= Pain and it'll be a hell of a lot more painful if your lifeline (the ruck) breaks mid trek.
@diegoflores3408
@diegoflores3408 8 місяців тому
@@Bender_B._Rodriguez that's just a waste of space inside the ruck and doesn't give structure to the sack so now your pretty much stuck with a Jansport backpack but with a heavy ass plate trying to mimic what would be a frame
@diegoflores3408
@diegoflores3408 8 місяців тому
@@jurpo6 now that's some thinking, homebrew rucks are the go to after you find what you like. I don't mind the old school sack with 2 sewn on sustainment pouches on the side and a machine gun ammo pouch on the lid. I just change out the older school waist band for a new school one since that allows more weight to go on my waist/legs
@thundermuffin71
@thundermuffin71 8 місяців тому
Awesome video mate. Was wondering what jacket is that at 8:43? Looking for something like that myself
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 8 місяців тому
some 5.11 jacket from the bargin rack.
@SugarFreeTargets
@SugarFreeTargets 8 місяців тому
Here's a challenge. Use a smaller pack! It will force you to pack smarter and lighter
@unclefreedom213
@unclefreedom213 8 місяців тому
I'm a huge fan of the 2DAP but for EDC use for tactical stuff it would be the Switchblade. for 3 day I'm a fan of the rush 24 or Redwing 30 or even big trick. for 4 day the Eberlestock Kite, or team Elk from them or FacTrac. Ruck is my Tactical Tailor Malice or Large Alice for modern stuff would be the Eberlestock Warhammer/little brother or kelty coyote 80
@chazc933
@chazc933 8 місяців тому
The AMP24 is the best bag. I can't believe 5.11 discontinued it.
@BrassFacts
@BrassFacts 8 місяців тому
right?
@chazc933
@chazc933 8 місяців тому
I've had to resort to tacswap for em.
@A.Mac.
@A.Mac. 8 місяців тому
"Fastly"
@IronPhysik
@IronPhysik 2 місяці тому
taking your liter vs days figure I just noticed that you can create a rule of thumb with it for every hour your operate needs to last, add 1L of volume 10h OP = 10L pack 24h OP = 24L pack 72h OP = 72L pack and so on its obviously no perfect (as many rules of thumb) but it works
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